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Introduction to the Daily Premier League Podcast
00:00:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome one and all, welcome everyone around the world to the Daily Premier League podcast. Today is the 20th of October. We're still, we've still got one game to go in game week eight, if you call it game week.
00:00:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
which is West Ham against Brentford, which is tonight. Everyone's on the edge of the seats about that one. But it has already been an amazing weekend for thrills and spills. My name's Ken Davis.
Weekend Recap: Matches, Controversies, and Calamities
00:00:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
His name is Nick Britton. And unsurprisingly, we've got an awful lot to talk about. How you doing, and Nick? if you recovered after the yeah a weekend of classic matches of controversy and of calamity?
00:00:55
Nick Britten
I think the only thing I needed to recover from was a day out in London, which involved the odd beer or two.
00:01:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was lot of being involved, wasn't there?
00:01:03
Nick Britten
It was a good day it great weekend and some great football. and and And as always, the hangover on Monday is not mine because of beer. It was because of of all the various stories that are going on and Liverpool being being one of them and question marks being asked, Nottingham Forest being the other key one. is and And what exactly is the point of appointing Sean Dyche, his manager? what is What is the ethos behind it and where are they hoping it might take them?
00:01:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what we're going to kick off with today. You did well, I should say, by the way, to recover from your absolute, well I don't know what the word is, the the the demolition, the alcoholic demolition you and underwent at the weekend.
00:01:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah To turn up last night and actually produce a podcast of Pulitzer Prize winning punditry.
00:01:48
Nick Britten
It great pod last night. It was a great one. And tonight will be similarly great. There's just lots of good things to talk about.
00:01:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're on a roll. Right, OK. First thing then, OK.
Nottingham Forest's Managerial Moves: Lack of Vision?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Forrest Luck set to appoint Sean Dyche. He was sacked in January by Everton. They seem to have cooled on Roberto Mantini.
00:02:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Well...
00:02:08
Nick Britten
think it'll be the around. Yeah, that's
00:02:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Mancini may have cooled on Marinakis. And I think yeah the other option, which was Marcus Silva from Fulham, well, one, involves quite a big buyout clause.
00:02:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Two, he's manager of Fulham, and I know which one I'd rather be managing. That just look doesn't look like it's going to get off the ground because Marinakis doesn't like paying any kind of fees for, well, anything.
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't imagine. Restaurant fees, probably.
00:02:38
Nick Britten
Yeah.
00:02:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
So what do you make of the Shordyche thing?
00:02:41
Nick Britten
Well, look, clubs appoint Sean Dyche, and I mean this with a great respect because he's he's extremely good at what he does.
00:02:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Where's it? Yeah.
00:02:48
Nick Britten
great He's a great guy ah and he's very, very, very good at what he does. But clubs appoint Sean Dyche if they want to stay up.
00:02:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:58
Nick Britten
They don't appoint Sean Dyche if they want to build on getting into Europe this year and progress and finish potentially in the Europa League slots next season or the Champions League slots next season. That's not going to happen.
00:03:13
Nick Britten
So you have to look at the centre. I mean, in a lot of ways, it's a good appointment in terms of getting the fans back on board because he's a a local lad who still lives nearby. Forest Connections. it ticks a lot of the boxes in terms of, you nice bloke who knows Forrest and Forrest know him and fans are like him.
00:03:32
Nick Britten
And he'll do, no doubt, he'll keep them up. I'm sure there are worse teams in the league than Forrest. And he's, as I say, he's very, very good at that. But I just don't, I mean, if you look how far they've come, and I mean in a downward spiral in three months, it's quite staggering because they started the season in the Europa League on the back of an amazing season, Nuno in charge, everything looking rosy.
00:03:54
Nick Britten
First game took Brentford apart in the first half an hour, 45 minutes of the game. And everybody's thinking, here we go again. This is, never mind Europa League, par to Europa League, let's go to Champions League. And then, of course, you know, he he sacked Nuno.
00:04:09
Nick Britten
He's taken the decision to employ somebody who, whose Premier League record was absolutely woeful last year and whose style is completely different to the style that Forrest have got a set of players for.
00:04:21
Nick Britten
That doesn't work in any way, shape or form. But rather than give it time to work or try and make it work, he's just got rid of him at the earliest opportunity. And now he's bringing in somebody who style again is completely different.
00:04:33
Nick Britten
So Forrest is an absolute mess. I mean, they're absolute mess.
00:04:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
are a car crash.
00:04:39
Nick Britten
And this to me, have no idea what Maranakis is doing.
00:04:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely car
00:04:45
Nick Britten
I literally, I don't know what is what what he wants to happen for Nottingham Forest at the moment. This smacks of, even at this early stage of the season, just panicking and thinking our only job now this season is to stay up.
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
crash.
00:04:57
Nick Britten
That's what this is in stacks of.
00:04:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, Forrest have managed to go in let's be honest, eight weeks, not even that, seven weeks from being Barcelona to Burnley. And it's it's a slight exaggeration. Bermia better than that.
00:05:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
But what I really mean is this. ah One of the things that struck me about the Deitch thing, it's an obvious appointment, but it's a terribly old-fashioned appointment, in my opinion. It's a short-term appointment.
00:05:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's got no vision. It's purely... Keep us up. And the question you're going to ask is, yeah, great. yeah me matt He might just keep you up. what up What happens then?
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
What happens then for the next two years? You just you ain't going to be happy with finishing 15th and 17th because that's what you're going to get. i The thing that really... The penny dropped on this yesterday when I was reflecting for this podcast, because we do do a little bit of homework, on the Palace Bournemouth game I just watched on the Saturday, where you've got Glastner and Areola going hell for leather against each other.
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Two teams that are not dissimilar in scale or ambition or talent than Forrest. And you've got two of the sharpest, brightest, most dynamic managerial minds in the Premier League going at it hammering tongs and producing the classic.
00:06:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then you're thinking Sean Dyche and thinking... That is so far away, so far away from what it needs these days in the Premier League to be a really good team.
Sean Dyche's Appointment: A Temporary Solution?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
You've essentially given up if you've appointed Dyche.
00:06:46
Nick Britten
you've essentially... what he that He's only been appointed, or will be appointed, if if know trusted journalists are to be believed who have good knowledge of these things, on an 18-month contract.
00:06:59
Nick Britten
So until June 2027. twenty twenty seven So they're they're they're not even trying to think long-term here. They're not even pretending to think long-term here. It is a, we'll pay you money to stabilise the club and keep us in the league.
00:07:14
Nick Britten
And that's a far, I mean, that's what Forrest were like, what, three years ago when they, when Nuno first came in, three years ago, two years ago, when Nuno first came in and they were down at the of Premier League, they looked like they going to get relegated and he came and he stabilised them.
00:07:28
Nick Britten
And then, of course, they went on that amazing season last season. But this is just taking the whole thing backwards by two or three years.
00:07:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely. And in the meantime, you spent a couple of hundred million pounds two in two seasons for each of those two seasons. And you're back to square one effectively.
00:07:45
Nick Britten
Plus money, by the way, to sack Nuno, plus money to sack Postacoglu. And i think yeah I think that's a brilliant point you make, by the way. on on i know it's not often to say that, so you can can you can clip up you can clip this little bit up and just keep running it when you're going to bed.
00:07:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
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Global Sports Podcast Network
i now will
00:08:00
Nick Britten
the yeah Look at Palace and their forward-thinking choice of manager. Look at Bournemouth and their forward-thinking choice of manager.
00:08:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sunderland, good example.
00:08:07
Nick Britten
Look at Sunderland, look at Brighton.
00:08:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:10
Nick Britten
Look at these clubs who are well who are doing very well and have a settled system, have a settled... i mean, Palace, you know despite the turbulence on the pitch, in terms of losing you know some of the best players in the last year or two, they still have that real rhythm and they have that really settled...
00:08:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Safer Bournemouth lost a load of players but had still had that core of belief and system and manager that got them through that. And they...
00:08:41
Nick Britten
Yeah, far Forest just seem to want to lurch from one thing to another to another, all of which are very opposite in terms of their style, in terms what they want to bring.
00:08:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:08:50
Nick Britten
And that tells me there's no system behind any of it. You know, a good a good club should have a system within it. And Brighton, I think, are a good example here, whereby... if you change the actual football manager, nothing much will change.
00:09:03
Nick Britten
You've still got an ethos, you've still got principles, you've still got a stable base. you know Football managers come and go these days much more than they used to. So you've got to youve to be able to set up a business where if you lose one of your senior managers, another senior manager will come in without affecting everything else that goes on around it.
00:09:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:09:21
Nick Britten
And that's how good businesses run. Forest are the complete opposite of that. It's just it's just ah an absolute car crash at the moment.
00:09:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is. I'm sure there's more to come on it. Obviously, we'll bring you, I'll keep you updated on the Deutsche appointment. And this thing about, obviously, they lost their direct to football, didn't they?
00:09:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
He went to Newcastle recently as well. There's just a lot of stuff going on around Forest.
00:09:42
Nick Britten
Yeah, Ross Wilson, i'll tell
00:09:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
None of it good.
00:09:46
Nick Britten
yeah ah tell you what I'll tell you what, Maranakis, here's a snapshot of a man.
Maranakis' Strategy: Is There a Long-term Plan?
00:09:52
Nick Britten
he He went to great lengths to appoint Antipostokoglu.
00:09:57
Nick Britten
He went to enormous lengths to say how proud he is to Greeks, Greek heritage, Greek this, Greek that. I'm in awe of him. I'm do this, I do that. This guy's amazing, this, that, and the other. On Saturday, left the ground with around 20 minutes, half an hour to and got somebody else, presumably Edu, to sack him.
00:10:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:15
Nick Britten
he didn't have He didn't even have the the the guts, the wherewithal, the the man who's, I don't know, call it what you like, to to do it himself the the day after like don't whenever.
00:10:27
Nick Britten
But to do it within 15 minutes of the end of the game and not even be there to do it yourself and you've left the stadium you know half an hour before, ah that to me tells you all you want to know.
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, it's disrespectful. ah He's got a reputation and he's got a track record of being disrespectful to He's disrespectful He's disrespectful to Ange. He's probably going to end up being disrespectful to Sean Dyche.
00:10:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That ain't going to end well.
00:10:53
Nick Britten
If he understood football, if he understood football and understood Forrest, he would never have let Nuno go. He would have made an effort. would He would have made an effort to build the bridges, to repair whatever had been done that Nuno felt had been done.
00:11:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:11:06
Nick Britten
as we as you know As we know, he was his nose was put out a joint, we think, by Edu. And he he said himself he'd stop communicating with the chairman. Maranacos would have fixed that.
00:11:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:11:16
Nick Britten
He would fixed that. If he'd really understood what's going on at Forrest. And if he wanted to get rid of Nuno, if he felt that a change was needed, then do it in the right way and do it yeah have a proper plan in place.
00:11:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's a red flag.
00:11:27
Nick Britten
But to go extreme Nuno to another extreme and in Postacoglu and then not give him any time whatsoever, literally no time to turn everything around, is is very, very short-sighted.
00:11:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's a couple of things to finish up on this. There's a red flag. There was a red flag with Nuno, which you just alluded to, when he said he hadn't had any conversations with Maranakis.
00:11:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And a week later, he sat. When Ange was interviewed the other day, when he went on his six-minute defense of Ange, he said, I've not spoken to Maranakis throughout the international break.
00:12:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think we know now that's a huge red flag. When that happens, when communications break down with Maranakis,
00:12:13
Nick Britten
not having a question.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
you go you're on a one-way street.
00:12:19
Nick Britten
You can express my voice up. There I say.
00:12:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're on a one-way street. So so that was that was an interesting point. I know now or how it's all starting to fit together in terms of you can see the signs in that six-minute defence, if you like, that things were about to end.
00:12:37
Nick Britten
Yeah, I think so. I think so. and And it's a shame. I think it's a shame. ah Listen, it's difficult to feel too much sympathy for Ange because he did lose 10 games in all competitions, in all competitions.
00:12:52
Nick Britten
And as much as I enjoy his box office style press conferences, hes he seems to have a massive chip on his shoulder about everybody every hating him and him being different and this, and the other.
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank
00:13:03
Nick Britten
And i think it's probably a mistake. Hindsight's wonderful thing, but when you go into a club like Forest that have been built very, very specifically in one way, you don't overnight try and change everything.
00:13:17
Nick Britten
You do things incrementally, so you're not throwing a baby out with a bathwater. And to try and change their style of play, absolutely everything overnight, doesn't really smack of great management.
00:13:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, and the figures back that up. If you look at you the the data and the analytics, it backs it up. It was completely different approach. Do you think Ange will appear again in the Premier League?
00:13:40
Nick Britten
No.
00:13:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't you?
00:13:42
Nick Britten
I don't think so, no. No, I'd imagine he'll go he'll go abroad. So I think his his reputation is shot.
00:13:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting. Interesting.
00:13:50
Nick Britten
I mean, it might be, well, for time being, mean, football is a great healer. And, sorry, time is a great healer in football. People forget very, very quickly. So if he were to pop up in a couple of years' time, it wouldn't necessarily surprise me.
00:14:03
Nick Britten
And it would be you know held as the great return. But right here, right now, I think his reputation is trashed in England, in the Premier League.
00:14:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it is a bit which is a pity because we like him he's a great box office just one final thing on and on the forest thing and then we'll move on
00:14:18
Nick Britten
it's a bit It's also, sorry, it's just that on that point. It's slightly unfair because he's one of very few Premier League managers who have won trophies.
00:14:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:24
Nick Britten
There aren't that many of them.
00:14:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
this This is true. and He's always got that. He's always got that. I wasn't given a second season. the Do you think Marinakis listens to the fans too much? And if if you like, he's one of these chairmen who wants to be liked, desperately, desperately wants to be liked by the fans, wants to be adored, wants to be chaired through Nottingham, you know, on on the shoulders of the fans.
00:14:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think ultimately he has just been he's just been a tale that the dog has wagged?
00:14:56
Nick Britten
I think so, yeah. I think so. I think he he sensed very quickly that the fans were turning. And I think that's had a big effect. he is He is somebody who wants to be loved. He is somebody who wants to be liked. He is somebody who wants to be adored.
00:15:09
Nick Britten
He likes people, you know, bowing down to him and thinking he's he's he's he's amazing. um And interestingly for us fans, yeah they recognize that this has been a bit of a What's the phrase? A bit of a disaster for them. a bit of A bit of a mess, I suppose, would be the right way to put it, at least in a family show like this.
00:15:28
Nick Britten
um But they'll still back him because ultimately, who are they going to get in that's going to spend £200 million pounds a season? That's the thing with Forrest. They're caught a rock and a hard place. They've got a chairman who... it's proven to be very impulsive and improving to make wrong decisions, but he's also the chairman who puts in stacks and stacks and stacks of money.
00:15:45
Nick Britten
So supporters don't want to criticize him too much because ultimately you're going to kill the goose that gold that lays the golden egg.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:16:39
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Okie dokie. Could have been yesterday, might have been
Fan Ban Controversy: Safety or Discrimination?
00:16:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
a couple of days ago. We had a bit of a rant about something that we do not like to see, which was the what we consider here at Global Sports Podcast Network Towers is the emergence of anti-Semitism and the fact that certain teams are not allowed to play in certain cities.
00:17:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Certain cities in the UK, it seems, have become no-go zones for certain religions. Never thought I'd ever say that in my lifetime, but it so it seems to be the case.
00:17:09
Nick Britten
but it's fine.
00:17:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah And what we're talking about, of course, is the decision, as we know it so far, for the game between Villa and Maccabi Tel Aviv to be cancelled.
00:17:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh no, I shouldn't say that. Not cancelled. Played, but with no Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in the stadium. Obviously, that is a despicable situation that we all find ourselves in.
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
And there have been more developments on that story in the course of the last 24 hours in terms of ah certain content emerging, which maybe casts a slightly different light on this.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
So in our interest of actually keeping this story in the forefront of everyone's thinking, ah Nick, what's the latest thinking on this?
00:17:57
Nick Britten
Well, the government is still working very hard behind the scenes, and there have lots and lots of discussions over the weekend about this, and several government ministers seem to be putting quite a lot of pressure. But no clear solution this about this, and no no real sign of which way the wind is blowing.
00:18:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:18:12
Nick Britten
Although it's very rare for governments, particularly senior government, i.e. prime ministers, and the the other senior government ministers demand something to happen and it doesn't happen.
00:18:24
Nick Britten
So, however, however there there therere are kind of new bits that are being added to this story that we've previously become aware of. And I think probably the most interesting one was a story that emerged on the BBC ah website about Aston Villa having told their match day stewards well ahead of this decision being made public that they didn't have to work this game, understanding that some ah may have concerns about what might happen.
00:18:55
Nick Britten
So essentially, they've given their stewards a free pass to take the game off. Now, if if stewards, lots of stewards go, okay, we'll do that then. Aston Villa then go to the City Council or the Safety Advisory Group and go, we haven't got enough stewards.
00:19:09
Nick Britten
then that may well have influenced... We don't know, because all of these things are getting reported and nobody's confirming or denying anything.
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank
00:19:17
Nick Britten
and But that would have a a significant effect, would it not, on Villa's ability to host the game? Or more importantly, the overall ability to...
00:19:30
Nick Britten
protect the Tel Aviv fans. Now, that's the first bit. The second bit is there's been a bit of a change of narrative of this in the last, well, today, really, the last sort of 18 hours.
00:19:41
Nick Britten
And that is, it turned out that at the game, the weekend involving Maccabee Tel Aviv was abandoned because of essentially fireworks being thrown on the pitch and a bit of violence, this, that and other.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank
00:19:53
Nick Britten
And the narrative seems to have sort of changed to, oh, no, no, you know, we have to protect the the safety and and all of that. Now, you know, it's totally understandable if you don't want to have fans at your ground because they have a terrible reputation of causing trouble.
00:20:07
Nick Britten
And that's precedent there's precedent on all of that. But that's not what this is about. This was about not having Tel Aviv fans at the ground because we can't protect them, the we being the police and the authorities.
00:20:21
Nick Britten
So it's important that we don't change that narrative to suddenly, oh yeah, we were right to ban them because look at the trouble they cause, because that's not the reason they were banned in the first place. So you've got to just park that story, I think, particularly.
00:20:32
Nick Britten
And as I say, these talks are going on and they're going on and they're going on. I actually thought there might have been a resolution by now, because normally, as I say, when government puts a lot of pressure on.
Financial Concerns for Villa vs Maccabi Tel Aviv
00:20:40
Nick Britten
So it'll be interesting really in the next... I they've got to make a decision soon.
00:20:45
Nick Britten
And ah quite what that decision will be, it's still very much in the balance, I think.
00:20:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, it'll be a dark day if Tel Aviv supporters can't visit Birmingham and support their team. That's my opinion. i think that's Nick's opinion as well.
00:20:59
Nick Britten
Yeah, i don't think we've changed I don't think we've changed from that. I don't think we've changed that.
00:21:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
No...
00:21:03
Nick Britten
You cannot have areas of England or United Kingdom, whatever you want to it, you can't have areas where people are not allowed into because of their religion or creed or faith or race.
00:21:19
Nick Britten
i mean, that's a step back 100
00:21:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is. It's dreadful. and
00:21:23
Nick Britten
You just can't have it. I don't ah don't care what needs to happen here, but these supporters need to be able to go and see this game. The latest sort of, the latest, perhaps one of the things that's that's come into it was ah was cost.
00:21:38
Nick Britten
And essentially the government's suggesting, look, get this game on whatever it takes. Now, I was listening to a senior person from ah a ground safety organization that gets involved in these types of things.
00:21:50
Nick Britten
And they were saying it could you know could cost well over a million pounds. Now, who's going to pay for that? Because Birmingham City Council, as we all know, because it's been in the news loads, is broke, is bankrupt.
00:21:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:22:01
Nick Britten
yeah they're They're having a pay loads money. There's a bin strike going on at the moment. They're having to pay loads of money yeah and to cover all that off, 50 grand a day, reportedly. And So they haven't got the money to do it. is is Is government going to do it? I don't know. So where's the extra cost going to come from if they're going to throw loads of police at it? But they seem to find the money to police enormous marches every week in London by the pro-Palestinian lobby. They seem to find the money to police that. So I'm not quite sure they wouldn't find the money to police a few hundred extra Tel Aviv fans. But there we are.
00:22:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think it's it's a dreadful situation. What it's definitely moving towards, there's going to be a big, it's a big political row now, um and it's just building and building building.
00:22:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
West Midlands police seem to be supporting the decision to ban, or actually ban the away supporters. because they can't guarantee their safety.
00:22:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know You've got an awful lot of people ranged against the government on this. Most of the authorities, were certainly Birmingham authority, Aston Villa it would seem, and Westminster's police saying to the government, don't want to do this.
00:23:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
The government's saying, I don't care, you don't want to do it. It's a matter of principle. We've got to do it. So it'll be interesting see who wins this.
00:23:11
Nick Britten
Well, yeah, do you know what? It's about time the government stood up because you haven't got, you you might say there's lots of people a against it but tell you what they've got a whole country for it
00:23:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree.
00:23:22
Nick Britten
The whole country back in a government, every single football fan will look at this and go, this is wrong.
00:23:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:27
Nick Britten
Because if you ban one set of fans, then you you open up yeah a precedent to do it again and again and again and again. And if you don't ever do it again, well, it's blatantly obvious what sits behind the decision.
00:23:39
Nick Britten
And it's got nothing to do with safety.
00:23:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:40
Nick Britten
So I think the the support for government around the country is very, very strong.
00:23:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:48
Nick Britten
The support in Birmingham, perhaps, through the police, through the council, what have you, ah for their own reasons, isn't.
00:23:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:55
Nick Britten
But it's good, I think, I think it's about time we had a government which showed a bit of backbone and stood up for principle and stood up for what for for for what's right and what's wrong.
00:24:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, Keir Starmer's been pretty strong on it. Ed Miliband's been pretty strong on it. But, you know, you can talk till blue in the face. You've got to make something happen. And we expect them to make something happen. It'll be a very, very black day if they don't.
00:24:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. OK, moving on. we'll keep you We'll keep you across that story as it's developing, because there's actually a very interesting sports stroke political story and one that we are obviously we've got a vested interest in because we don't want to go back to the nineteen thirty s Global Sports Podcast Network is partnered with Bionique, the world's most personalized supplements, because your body is unique.
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00:25:19
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So that's pretty heavy subject. I've got to deal with it, though, because it's important one. But let's finish off this podcast with a quick five minutes on something else, which is, obviously, Liverpool.
Liverpool's Upcoming Fixtures: Predictions and Analysis
00:25:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it a blip? Is it a bump? Is it a
00:25:37
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bad phase of the season?
00:25:38
Nick Britten
He's trying to trying to think of another word that began with B.
00:25:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know, just thinking of spelling word, start with B, that wasn't a swear word. But anyway, and is it is it just is it just a blip? But what we wanted what i've specifically want to talk about is abomination.
00:25:48
Nick Britten
is it is it Is it an abomination? so
00:25:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it a great big abomination? ah I want to look the next five games of Liverpool and the next five games that Arsenal have because they're quite interesting games.
00:26:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
And there's a four-point gap at the moment between Liverpool and Arsenal. That's a big gap. I want to see, i want to, I want Nick, I want you to get your crystal ball out. And believe me, he's got a very big crystal ball.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's making it very popular. Yeah,
00:26:21
Nick Britten
You know how bad I am at this. I don't even know why you're asking me.
00:26:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know. I've seen the predictions.
00:26:26
Nick Britten
You know how bad I'm at predicting these things.
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
so But i'm going I'm going to put that to the test. i'm going to keep this. going look at it in five games' time. So i'm going to go through the Liverpool fixtures. I want you to give me whether it's going to be home a Liverpool victory or a draw or a loss. going to do the same with Arsenal. going to see what points they're going to be on in five games' time. So here we go. Right, Liverpool first. Liverpool are away at Brentford. What's the result, Nick?
00:26:50
Nick Britten
I think ah it's so hard because you just don't know what's going do. I mean, look, the game against Man United yesterday, they could have won quite comfortably. They just hit the post at the wrong times of the game, but they still can't defend.
00:26:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Many times. Gakpo. Gakpo. Oh, blimey.
00:27:06
Nick Britten
Yeah. I mean, how long is this going to go on for? The defensive though, how long is this going to go on for? I don't know. i mean, you've got to bring Andy Robertson back in at left back.
00:27:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
You do? We've been saying this for months.
00:27:17
Nick Britten
not a good yeah You've got to give Kirkus a bit of a break. He's having an absolutely torrid time of it. yeah Van Dijk looked a bit uncertain, but I think that was actually the way United set up and and set up very well.
00:27:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, but it can't be easy for Van Dijk when he's got everything going around him. You know, he was, you know, he can't carry it up.
00:27:31
Nick Britten
Yeah. I think at the moment, Slovis lies your best right back at the moment.
00:27:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. ah Does he want to play right back? And is it such a waste of midfield?
00:27:37
Nick Britten
No, he doesn't want to. No, don't think so, but it doesn't matter whether he wants to play or not. If he's the best right back, then that's that's where he plays. And Canate. Yeah, Brentford looked very good at home last the other week and they look like they can score goals.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, what are you going
00:27:55
Nick Britten
I'm going to go for a home win.
00:28:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Palace at home. Liverpool v Palace at home.
00:28:04
Nick Britten
Well, that's in the cup, isn't it, Palace? we counting the cup?
00:28:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, yeah. but It is. let me Let me... Oh, therefore, we're only we're reduced to four games.
00:28:11
Nick Britten
Home to Villa.
00:28:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go to Villa next year.
00:28:11
Nick Britten
Home to Villa we're in there. Yeah, now Villa are absolutely resurgent, aren't they?
00:28:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm?
00:28:17
Nick Britten
mr I haven't got much right this season, but I've got that right.
00:28:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. They've turned the corner. Big time.
00:28:22
Nick Britten
and
00:28:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Five wins out of five, innit?
00:28:23
Nick Britten
as was ah As they were always going to do, if you listen to any of our podcasts during their slump, I had absolute faith they were going to do it. And that's a very difficult game for Liverpool, think.
00:28:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is.
00:28:34
Nick Britten
ah But I'll give them a chance. I'll give them a point.
00:28:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
so you're going for a draw. All right, Man City away.
00:28:40
Nick Britten
Yeah, draw, yeah.
00:28:43
Nick Britten
No, no, no, nothing there, I'm afraid. I think Manchester City, they're playing well to hit and form, and they've got Haaland.
00:28:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the big one, Forest at Home, Sean Dimesh.
00:28:56
Nick Britten
Yeah, no problem with that.
00:28:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, so you've got, we've got four it.
00:28:58
Nick Britten
Three points. They're bad. They're that bad.
00:29:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've got four games.
00:29:03
Nick Britten
ah Four out of the next four games. Is that what I've got? Yeah.
00:29:07
Nick Britten
I mean, it might be five. It might be five to get a drink. I don't know. i think three of those games I'm fairly certain on, but bre Brentford I'm not sure because it much depends on on what Brentford turn up.
00:29:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
What points are they for?
00:29:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, it's a big call saying that they're going to lose at Brentford.
00:29:17
Nick Britten
LAUGHTER
00:29:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
If they lose at Brentford, can you imagine? You lose at Brentford, they draw home against Villa and then you lose away at City. Sloth's going to be...
00:29:27
Nick Britten
Well, I know, i only but only base that on the way that Brentford destroyed Manchester United.
00:29:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sloth's gone.
00:29:33
Nick Britten
And they look really good, it played really well. But then it's, man ah but you know, if Liverpool defend like they've been defending, Brentford will score against them.
00:29:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
but they will
00:29:39
Nick Britten
and if they And if they attack the way they've been attacking, Brentford will defend against them. So, why not?
00:29:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
right four points in the next four games right we're going to go the same thing with with the Arsenal Palace at home tough game
00:29:54
Nick Britten
Yeah, a tough game indeed. But they're good at home against Palace. and But yeah, it's tight. I think a point apiece.
00:30:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
okay Burnley away.
00:30:11
Nick Britten
Victory.
00:30:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
ye Sunderland away.
00:30:15
Nick Britten
Victory.
00:30:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Spurs at home.
00:30:18
Nick Britten
Victory.
00:30:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, 10 points. So we are saying, well I say we, I mean Nick, is saying that by the 23rd of November, Arsenal will be 10 points clear of Liverpool.
00:30:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
10 points clear of Liverpool.
00:30:39
Nick Britten
How much of that do you disagree with?
00:30:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:30:43
Nick Britten
Don't say all of it like you normally
00:30:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, don't. I think Liverpool are going to beat Brentford.
00:30:48
Nick Britten
Yeah, to be fair, I don't know why I evenve even said that.
00:30:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But at the same time, I think Arsenal are going to beat Palace. So I think Arsenal are going to win all them four games. And I think Liverpool will probably end up with seven points.
00:31:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Arsenal will end up with 12 points, which means they're nine points clear. It's going to be nine or ten points.
00:31:11
Nick Britten
There and thereabouts, isn't it? Yeah, thereabouts.
00:31:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
going to be nine or ten points clear in about by by the end of november which is an amazing turnaround and uh talking about seats getting warm i'm telling you i know you never believed me when i said about dice believe me not a dice but about about ang nah he's not going he's not going i'm telling you
00:31:29
Nick Britten
What do you mean you said about tige?
00:31:35
Nick Britten
no i know No, to be fair, no. It wasn't I didn't believe you. and I just think, and I still think, it was a ridiculous decision. I mean, it was a ridiculous decision to appoint him.
00:31:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:31:44
Nick Britten
But once you've appointed him, you've got to give him the time and the tools to do the job.
00:31:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was a ridiculous decision. But we're working on the basis that it was Marinakis. He makes ridiculous decisions. Now, I agree.
00:31:56
Nick Britten
That's fair.
00:31:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think Arnie Slop is probably still going to be a in his job by the start of December. I don't think. But.
00:32:02
Nick Britten
just trying to start.
00:32:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
But. But. You know, there's no smoke without fire. I'm telling you.
00:32:08
Nick Britten
If they can listen, if Liverpool can hit a rhythm and suddenly, and I know that i know you know this is this is probably massive crystal ball gazing, but suddenly Salah starts scoring and Florian Vert starts playing well and and and the moon falls out of the sky.
00:32:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
that
00:32:24
Nick Britten
What?
00:32:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it was weak strike strike.
00:32:25
Nick Britten
yeah
00:32:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And yeah yeah and Harlan breaks his leg.
00:32:28
Nick Britten
They've got it in them. Well, I hope that doesn't happen. They've got enough. They've got good players. It's not working at moment. Fine. And I think there's lots of reasons why we've talked and we've talked about them.
00:32:41
Nick Britten
But that's not to say that it won't start working. And if it does start working, they can overhaul. They can overhaul like nine points over. We've only played eight games. There's a long, long, long, long way to go
00:32:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
What an eight games, though. What an eight games it's been.
00:32:53
Nick Britten
But what are they doing?
00:32:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:32:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, you better stick around because I would imagine the eight next eight games are just going to be as interesting. So thank you for that. Nick, thanks for your Pulitzer Prize winning punditry. ah Thank you. he's He's never actually won the Pulitzer Prize.
00:33:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he's on his way. He's on his way. And thank you for listening.
00:33:12
Nick Britten
Farewell.
00:33:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you want to drop us an email, please do. The best place to do that is dailypremierleaguepodcast.gmail.com. We look forward to reading them. And we will very soon get a chance to read them out as well.
00:33:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
So thanks for listening. It's been my pleasure to bring this to you and Nick's. ah Good night, Nick. And see you at the Derby game tomorrow.
00:33:31
Nick Britten
farewell
00:33:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Farewell.