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The Kill Power Hour #057 - Damaged (1981)

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Tyler's 2nd favorite album of all-time marks the debut of Henry Rollins as the frontman for the California hardcore outfit Black Flag, and boy, is he giving it the old college try. Eric can't let go of Henry's Haagen-Daaz past and Tucker is just along for the ride. Inspired-by clips include songs by Nine Inch Nails and Adolescents. Teenage rage is best served in a waffle cone.

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Introduction to 'Kill Power Hour' Podcast

00:00:05
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Kill Power Hour, a podcast where three friends spend the better part of an hour arguing and explaining how the Washington, D.C. Haagen-Dazs served up two scoops of hardcore punk.
00:00:15
Speaker
Each week we go through one item on our top ten

Tyler's Second Favorite Album: Black Flag's 'Damaged'

00:00:18
Speaker
lists. We're currently on albums and this week we'll be discussing Tyler's second favorite album of all time, nineteen eighty ones Damaged by Black Flag.
00:00:26
Speaker
My name's Eric and you're here with me now. And as always, I'm joined by my best friend, Tucker. I am also here with you all now. and my best friend's little brother yeah i showed up we're here with each other now i like this improvisation here as we get towards the end of season two yeah we had a couple weeks to think about it so hopefully yeah we're slowing down a little bit here yeah it's okay it's a busy summer it's uh it was very busy yeah it was a really fucking busy summer um can we talk about the christmas special
00:00:58
Speaker
Which one? The one that's coming up.

Podcast Memories: Recording in a Sauna

00:01:00
Speaker
Oh, are we going to record in your sauna again? Fuck yes. Yes. i We should just record. and so we So we recorded one last season, which hasn't come out yet.
00:01:09
Speaker
Have not listened to it. i've been But we were carried we recorded an entire podcast in a sauna. Yep. Yeah, so we're talking about the past, but this will still be in the future if we release things in the right order. A future's past.
00:01:23
Speaker
I'm going to start with that. We are going to release the episodes one at a time, but we're going to go backwards.
00:01:30
Speaker
ah Holy shit. it's Just in case we take a year off, or but then we'll have a year's worth of backlog episodes. Totally. I mean, we're chilling. Just making sure. Well...
00:01:41
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it was We were doing movies last season, and we did our favorite Christmas movies for the specials. So I would imagine and we would do our favorite Christmas album. Oh, I almost put that in as my number two.
00:01:53
Speaker
Well, that's good. Wow. Almost screwed the pooch on that deal. but Yeah, I think I know which one it would be. yeah Do you have that on vinyl? I think I do. Okay, right.
00:02:06
Speaker
I think I do. right. No one cares. Yeah. Sorry. We're getting off topic real fast. We're always off topic. this This podcast could be called off topic. But Tyler's waving his arms and leaning back. So I know this is where he says, fuck you guys. And then goes right into like how good this talks about how much he is. This is pretty good. I haven't listened to this for a long time.

First Tattoo Story Inspired by Black Flag

00:02:28
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Really? Yeah.
00:02:29
Speaker
yeah That surprises me. I did listen to this. i mean, i'll go I'll go for five, ten-year periods of listening. I've listened this for fucking ever. Well, it's old.
00:02:41
Speaker
it's it's It's old. um This was my first... this was like I had moved to Georgia, and I was feeling all fucking sorry for myself because was a teenager. And, ah like, this is my first tattoo. I got damaged all the way up my arm, the logo. Yep.
00:02:57
Speaker
And... It looked like my first tattoo, too, as well, quality-wise. Well, no, mine looks good. The quality's good on Some of that line work is a little suspect. it It gets a little big. Mine was worse. Fat lines. He didn't have to cover his own.
00:03:12
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so you There you go. There you go. I can't believe how bad that was. With an even bigger tattoo. With an even arguably worse. Literally questionable.
00:03:23
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these pants stink. What if I take an even bigger shit off? but shit Shit versus shit equals potpourri. Oh, my God. ah Did you first hear this when you moved to Georgia?

Evolution of Black Flag's Music Style with Henry Rollins

00:03:36
Speaker
No, I heard it way before that. um Was this your first Black Flag album? or who No, I mean, the first four and everything went black, which were like compilation.
00:03:49
Speaker
I mean, this was like theoretically the first Black Flag album. Right. But they had issues with it getting out. Yeah, but like I'd say everything went black and the first four years were like select songs after that were like what i think most people think of a Black Flag. Yeah.
00:04:08
Speaker
Black Flag went fucking weird when Rollins hit it. Like, I feel like if you, but especially some of the later albums after this with Bill Stevenson on drums, there's some fucking weird shit. mean, it's like spoken word. There's instrumental songs.
00:04:21
Speaker
Yeah. There's a lot of Henry Rollins writing the songs, which are very simple and strange. And sometimes in not good ways, like just kind of like, what the fuck is this song about? But...
00:04:33
Speaker
And I don't think that's what most people think of Black Flag when they yeah hear the later albums. so They think of like the early Black Flag. Yeah. As far as I can tell. um I also, Rollins isn't even my favorite singer with Black Flag. I don't think. Oh, you like Des?
00:04:47
Speaker
Yeah, Descadina is, he's just got the voice. It's fucking miracle. i like I like how, i mean, Henry is primal.
00:04:59
Speaker
on this album. And maybe maybe not even that, like feral. Yes. Like he reminds me of a hyena personified where like he's going to be laughing, but then this next minute he's going to like, keep there's there's a line in one of the last songs where he's going to put your hand out, I'll bite it off. Yeah, no, he's like, ah he's a...
00:05:17
Speaker
He sounds like a child in this. He sounds like a like a really young child. He also soundss it sounds like he's trying so hard. What do you mean sounds sounds like a child? Like his voice sounds like it or the lyrics are childish? ah His voice.

Henry Rollins' Vocal Style on 'Damaged'

00:05:31
Speaker
He didn't pick up his like... ah Big boy balls? Jim Morrison style... Balls didn't drop yet? Thing didn't pick up until like later albums. Yeah.
00:05:42
Speaker
He's still got that high. So he I don't think he like learned his voice. I don't think he used like the lower end of his voice until later stuff. And this is all like screamy, like not always on time. It sounds like Rollins. How many more recordings did he do with them?
00:05:58
Speaker
He was with them until 85. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah Okay. So a good three years. Yeah. I mean, I think like there's few bands out there, at least in punk that,
00:06:11
Speaker
I think collectively what people think, is kind of like something like what you just said Tyler, like what people think of them, versus what they are is so different. Like the perception of Black Flag is greatly different than like what their music was.
00:06:29
Speaker
Totally. I mean, I had never listened to any Black Flag albums before. i'd heard there's whatever songs that might be played on a radio or with you guys. But um yeah, I just always assumed it's Henry Rollins and a punk rock band.

Tension and Diversity in 'Damaged'

00:06:44
Speaker
Yeah. Hardcore punk. Yeah. don't know. I was ah pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong on this. so I mean, like it fits and it sticks. It's like cohesive enough. But like this album has so much tension.
00:07:01
Speaker
It's so wildly different from like pure comedy TV party. to like him talking about like, it sounds like he's having manic conversations with himself, like split personality shit. Like yeah this, ah this album is like cover some fucking ground. Like not a lot of albums do. Yeah. Police story. It's huge.
00:07:23
Speaker
Yep. that's Well, I mean, these are like all the hits up until this point. um Yeah. And then he basically, they re-recorded him with this, hopefully this singer that's going to stick with him because... Is that the case? All these songs were written before Rollins even joined? Everything but Damaged One, right? was Yeah, yeah. Wait, they'd already written Damaged Two?
00:07:49
Speaker
I guess. Hey, we we kind of need a prequel for this song. It's really into Star Wars. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. I couldn't really listen to Damage 2. But anyway, maybe Tyler wants to walk us through.
00:08:05
Speaker
Do you hear something there?

'Rise Above': Quintessential Hardcore Punk

00:08:08
Speaker
Oh, no. Rise Above is perfect for, that I feel like, the first song. It's like one of their most well-known songs. Yeah. It's got really sweet fucking backups. Yeah.
00:08:18
Speaker
sounds like ah It's a fucking banger. It is a quintessential hardcore punk song. yeah Yes. Like if I had to think of one song to represent this genre, that's a song I would pick. And it's a popular song, I feel like. It's a good song, yeah. yeah It's not too weird.
00:08:34
Speaker
And it's yeah it's as catchy as hardcore punk can be, I feel like. Yes, yes. It's a rally cry. Yeah. It's also the name of one of our local bakeries.
00:08:44
Speaker
Oh, which is, and it's a, it's a black flag reference. That is. Well, there was a band called rise above. Really? Yeah. Okay. Also punk.
00:08:56
Speaker
Uh, punk leaning. Okay. If I remember correctly. Cool. Yeah. It starts off great. I love this. Elvin has a great one to combo because you have this like, I don't know.
00:09:08
Speaker
Rise Above is kind of like, it's for the the mainstream custies, I feel like. yeah and And then they hit you with Spray Paint the Walls, which I feel like, okay, come down to our basement show and see how it really fucking is. Spray Paint the Walls, or it's called Spray Paint, is...

Personal Connection to 'Spray Paint'

00:09:24
Speaker
one of It's got to be my most favorite fucking song I've ever heard. I remember the feeling when I listen song for the first time, and I have to keep listening to that song all night long.
00:09:35
Speaker
yeah And that's my fucking favorite song. Which a lot of songs. We could listen to it four times. Yes, true. It's fucking 30 seconds long, I'm sure. But it's... ah yeah It's like not, it's 33 seconds and yet it's still one of the most powerful songs on a 15 song album. yeah This is it.
00:09:54
Speaker
This song is exactly what I felt like from the ages of 14 to 25. Okay. dis sums it this Everything is fucking wrong. Fuck you. I'm going to, I just want to fucking explode. That's what this song is.
00:10:12
Speaker
um took the so i want and knock down so blackmate my at the so i want put a knock down your equipmentook the ride you jump wild that was Black Flag. for paint ah Do I even need to re-intro that song again? It was only 30 seconds ago.
00:10:49
Speaker
We might be able to play that whole song on the actual podcast. Yeah. It feels good to say what I want. It feels good to knock things down. It feels good to see the disgust in their eyes. It feels good. I'm going to go wild.
00:11:02
Speaker
Who writes the lyrics for this song, for this band? Is it Greg? Or is Henry doing this? At this point, there are it's a mixture of everybody that's been in the band before this. Because Rollins went into this, and they were just trying to jam out a fucking album. So all the songs were like pre-written.
00:11:19
Speaker
Okay. But... it feels good to knock things down. That sums up my fucking 20s, man. Like, i can't tell you what kind of just ridiculous shit that like...
00:11:33
Speaker
It's stewing around inside. This is a song that should have been playing when we destroyed the yearbook room and I got suspended for week. yeah. Yeah. I could see you knocking some ceiling tiles out while one of us is in the corner saying, break the fucking ceiling. like
00:11:52
Speaker
It was so good. Oh, my God. do we We probably shouldn't but just disclose all that we did. because did you get or did you just get Did it all get hung up on you?
00:12:03
Speaker
Um, it all got hung up on me and Matt. Kavidra? No, Roy. Oh, that's right. Beth's brother. Yep. I was just telling the Beth Roy story the other day, but.
00:12:14
Speaker
Rest in peace, Beth. Really? Oh, God. It's like, Jesus.
00:12:23
Speaker
We said her name out loud, though, so she's going to find us. I guarantee you she's going to buy the house for sale next door to me. She's going to get an ad on her Instagram to subscribe to the kill power podcast because her name was shit. We are fucked.
00:12:38
Speaker
Oh, we blew it. Yeah. But that song is like, it is like quintessential teenage angst, young, young, twenty something rage. Yeah. Yeah. Just like, Oh, nothing's right. And I want to fucking break something. Yeah.
00:12:53
Speaker
That's it's perfect in that way. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that overall this album is sequenced exceptionally well. Yeah, I mean, it drops.
00:13:04
Speaker
Well, maybe this is getting ahead. I think side B is like way less banging than side A, but it's still sequenced away It's its own piece. Yeah. I've never felt a better cutoff between side A and side B before, honestly.
00:13:18
Speaker
ah Are all of the members of Black Flag Straight Edge, because I picked up on a lot of, as I drink this beer, anti-drinking songs or you're dumb if you drink type i don't think so. Yeah, i'm pretty sure they were probably all fucked up.
00:13:34
Speaker
Really? Oh, okay. i don I don't think Rollins was in, like, alcohol. i I mean, in some of his books, he talks about, like, like LSD or fucking an acid or something, but... All right.
00:13:45
Speaker
Yeah. I was just surprised. Six-pack and... ah TV party? Yeah. TV Party, a Thirsty and Miserable. Those are all like essentially. oh like you thought they were making fun of people who get.
00:14:00
Speaker
Yeah, who drink. Oh, like just watch TV. Wow. That's the first time that I've ever thought that. But I could totally see that.

The Raw Sound of 'Damaged'

00:14:07
Speaker
Read the fucking lyrics of Six Pack, man. That has such a... ah Can we talk about the drumming on this? this How shallow the percussion is?
00:14:15
Speaker
Well, I mean, the it's it's not a great recording. Yeah. but But I would also say this album should not be remastered or revisited. That goes against its whole fucking soul. Yeah, that would weird. meant to sound like this.
00:14:29
Speaker
If this sounded good, which I would actually argue that later Black Flag albums got better and better sounding. Yeah. It kind of fucked it up. Right. this This is what it's supposed to, you like it like you said, if this is what it's supposed to sound like. And if yeah if you took this album and like magically fucking, it was recorded in this, in a great studio, whatever. Yeah.
00:14:52
Speaker
It would sound so fucking weird. People would be like, where I can't smell the piss in the PA system. Exactly. like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah i mean, and I think like other bands from,
00:15:08
Speaker
78 to 84 punk bands, like, they all had that, like, we're fucking broke and we're playing on whatever we can, and it's got that, like... yeah And it's a defining characteristic of the music.
00:15:21
Speaker
Yeah, but this doesn't sound like... ah This sounds better than the Guide to Buy Voices album we just listened to, in opinion. like that's better More consistent, anyway. Yeah, there you go. Talking about the recording fidelity. Yeah, I guess that also varies with the album.
00:15:34
Speaker
But I want to go back to the drums. Tyler, is this like an album you ever appreciated since you're a drummer? Yeah, no, so I, this is Robo on drums. It's not Bill Stevenson yet, it but I feel like this styled my whole style of drumming. This is the snare roll heavy fucking songs. like Everything's got some like, so not elaborate, but like,
00:15:59
Speaker
Too many fucking drum rolls, snare drum rolls. Really? i I was picking up more on the like tempo shifts and like time signature changes that were within songs. like It's not as complicated as Strung Out or something like that. Yeah. yeah But it's a it's still like surprising to hear that.
00:16:21
Speaker
this I don't know. It was just weird. It was like jazzy hardcore punk. It's kind of messy. Yeah, i feel yeah not like. Not messy. Improvisational ah sounding. No, it's just ah strangely complicated, but kind of in a non-super technical way.
00:16:38
Speaker
but I guess I just feel like. oh so You should listen to some of later albums with Bill Stevenson, especially when they did... ah Like more of the instrumental songs. Oh, okay. Which is crazy for a punk band to do yeah instrumental songs. Yeah.
00:16:54
Speaker
yeah It's still crazy. it's fucking weird It's really weird. So wait, when was Bill Stevenson a part of Black Flag? After this. After this album. No way. Yeah. and so so he was there for Slip It In, My War.
00:17:06
Speaker
Yep. And you can tell. You're fucking serious. I mean, he's... Yeah, you can tell. no He's very snare heavy. And you can tell. i i feel i feel like I could listen to any fucking album and you could tell the way he plays. Who's the drummer on this one, though? Robo? Robo.
00:17:23
Speaker
Robo drummer. Robo drummer. Yeah. Father of Robo cop. No shit, dude. I had, I don't know why or how, but like I had no fucking clue that that was the case.
00:17:35
Speaker
Speaking of instruments. I also love the sound of the fucking bass on this album. And what I see has like, it's that distorted chunky bass. Yeah. Yeah. oh yeah So fucking good.
00:17:48
Speaker
I do like this song a lot more having listened to this album like 38 times in the last three weeks. Yeah. This song- Which only took you an hour. yeah This song has grown on me a lot. Yeah, it's a good one.
00:18:01
Speaker
It's a sleeper, right? it's Yeah, 100%. It's not catchy like Rise Above or have that like jokey edge like TV party. I feel like this is this is a preview of Future Rollins with his like more talking yeah over.
00:18:16
Speaker
totally. Which I think he's best at because when he sings like he does in TV party, it sounds so awkward. Yes. I never thought about it like that. Oh my God. Hearing him try to sing a tune.
00:18:31
Speaker
and the only time he does that is in TV party. Oh, just listen to Roland later. Roland's band. It gets, gets really wild. Yeah. I mean, we listened to one of his songs on this podcast. You used him for an inspired track. And I remember having the album that liar came out on because that was this big, like mtv hit. Yeah.
00:18:52
Speaker
Yeah, I just always remember him as kind of like shouty. Yeah. Did he like do okay with with music? Like... I mean, like, did he... and remember that Lyre was a big deal.
00:19:05
Speaker
yeah But, like, after that, did he have, like, a fruitful career? i think he he did have a fruitful career, but I think it wasn't because he just said, oh, I got to keep perfecting my music. He was like, okay, my music is successful for a little bit, but what people are really responding to are my spoken word performances or my acting in movies and film. Oh, I forgot he did those. Yeah. So, I mean, he's kind of...
00:19:31
Speaker
He's the punk rock version of Ice Cube. Oh, shit. Wow. And and it he kind of is, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's a very but crazy. Both could appear on NPR's Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me as guests. And it would make sense. Yeah. so buts Wow.
00:19:52
Speaker
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything about the guitar playing. Well, because I can't fucking understand it. That's it okay, good. It doesn't make any sense to me. ah When all of a sudden, Kevin makes a little more sense to me and the way he plays guitar. yeah you know It's just like...
00:20:13
Speaker
I always think of hardcore punk as just like really fucking just... It's not about the intricacies. It's about the speed. And here it's got both. And that's what's kind of blowing my mind.
00:20:26
Speaker
It's weird to me that other... bands, other even, i mean, i don't want to say music genres, but yeah, like punk rock metal, they they fit such a form and the guitar playing. I mean, this Greg Ginn was on the Rolling Stones, like top 100 guitarist of all time. Dude, he's amazing.
00:20:45
Speaker
It's the fucking weirdest shit and it's so good. I remember listening this in like the, some of the feedback parts, just some of the shit that he does a woo.
00:20:55
Speaker
And then just the fucking song starts happening. It's like, you can't not have like a physical reaction to listening to this weird shit. Like it it yeah gives me goosebumps sometimes.
00:21:07
Speaker
no it was totally, i was like, I, I'm trying to understand this, but there are certain things that are just sound completely foreign to me, which is rare, especially as you get older. And, and this also is an album that I feel like, yeah. Okay. Some of my closest friends have this album tattooed on their body. Maybe I should give it a listen.
00:21:26
Speaker
i think Yeah. There's lot black flag tattoos out there. I don't think it's a coincidence that you've got guitarist making like intricate and weird and dynamic sounds when this dude started his own fucking electronics program.

Greg Ginn's Electronics Business and SST Records

00:21:47
Speaker
company at age 12, which then turned into SST. He was a fucking 12 year old selling like old war, like updated and modified like war.
00:21:57
Speaker
Like radios and Radio devices and stuff. Funny. He's a fucking techie sound guy. Okay. So wait, he started SST? Yeah. Well, yeah he turned SST, he turned his electronics company as like, again, as a fucking 12 year old into SST.
00:22:14
Speaker
Solid state tuners. But Greg Ginn's lot older than everybody else that was in the band. Right, yeah. Like how? 10 years? Raymond Pettibon is Greg Ginn's brother. They hate each other, right?
00:22:26
Speaker
still theyre That's insane. And Raymond Pettibon used to practice with them. Dude. That's like one of my favorite artists ever. and i mean like what's What's interesting is that and and it's funny, i almost didn't even bring it up, but Raymond Pettibon's like artwork is the face of black flag is black. Yeah. Yeah. You see his artwork. You're like black flag. Yeah, totally.
00:22:52
Speaker
And that it's hilarious that he's, you know, popular in an art world where they probably don't even, many of his people who admire his pieces don't even understand that. Yeah. Another hilarious coincidence. So, ah as discussed in the introduction to this podcast, Henry Rollins used to manage Haagen-Dazs in DC.

Henry Rollins: From Ice Cream Shop to Black Flag

00:23:12
Speaker
Did you also know that one of his coworkers was Ian McKay? No way. Yep. Yep. At that same fucking Haagen-Dazs. These guys like ice cream. It's the fucking... Shit. So Henry Rollins quits his job as a manager at Haagen-Dazs to join Black Flag.
00:23:30
Speaker
And moves from DC to Long Beach? Yeah. And... How fucking epic is that? Could you imagine that? I think the story goes like they played ah show in DC and like...
00:23:43
Speaker
somehow or another a friend of a friend so i mean black flag at the time was like one of the i don't want the hottest band but like yeah one of the biggest punk bands it's so huge it's like one of the bands you look up to and whatever and you know they need a singer and then all of a sudden this is even before they released their first album yeah because they released a bunch of like just doing so seven inches and shit like that um and they're touring and everybody knows who they are and they need a singer and you're a fucking manager at an ice cream store, but you're in like punk rock and you fucking get the job. And then you go and record this shit. that yeah This timeframe was like months. Yeah.
00:24:20
Speaker
and i um I almost feel like I can feel that in this album. He's just seems young. He just seems like he's trying so fucking hard and who wouldn't. Oh my God. You just joined black flag. Yeah.
00:24:31
Speaker
I mean, this album came out in what, 80? Right? In 81. 81. So Black Flag was formed in 76. So they fucking hadn't been around for five years.
00:24:43
Speaker
All right, so I want to do a cover band. And it's a concept album that if Henry Rollins got to write all the lyrics for Damage, but instead the album's called Melted, and they're all just about ice cream.
00:24:57
Speaker
Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Do you not want to hear that? I can't. Of course you said that. I just, like...
00:25:09
Speaker
melted one and melted two. When's the most easy moment and it's like okay it happened at 25 minutes and 10 seconds. i love that. Gimme gimme gimme becomes licky licky licky. Oh Jesus Christ. and christ
00:25:23
Speaker
likey liy I got in trouble in eighth grade in Mr. Dubowski's history class. or Yeah, he taught history in Drive Ears. Yeah, and he said, what were the three G's of like Roman something or Russian. I was like, I just wrote my head. I'm like, give me, give me, give me. He was so fucking pissed at me.
00:25:45
Speaker
That's hilarious. so ah We're skipping ahead here. need to shout out Munzi real quick because he wrote... the best fucking story in a newspaper I've ever read in my entire life.
00:26:00
Speaker
You didn't see this Tucker. I think we put it in his Instagram. This was a while back when he was writing for that like local newspaper. Yeah. And it was the, the headline was no TV party tonight.
00:26:11
Speaker
And it was a story about some lady that had got her Steve or TV stolen. Yeah. And I saw this and I'm like, oh way thank you, God. I wonder how many of these things are like, as we were just obscure black flag. griff Yeah. No, like and all of have grown up. Listen to black flag.
00:26:30
Speaker
But he would. so That has to be that. Yeah. No TV party tonight. That's yeah. He had to have known. Yeah. We're going to ask him about this. Yeah. we need We need a producer who's on the phone and that can call people up. like We need a fucking editor. yeah we need that too. We need to be published. Can we get sponsored too? Yeah. I'll take a beer. Haagen-Dazs ice cream.
00:26:53
Speaker
Haagen-Dazs should sponsor this episode. I love Haagen-Dazs. It's my favorite ice cream. And would they not? I mean, they would be the official sponsor of Melted. Oh, yeah. A podcast about melted ice cream. We could bring Henry Rollins on. No, the fucking. I'm sure he would love that.
00:27:11
Speaker
He would do it. So wait, are we are we on TV party? No, we're on. Yeah, we're done with TV party. Okay. I do like the references of the the TV shows that they're watching. Yes.
00:27:22
Speaker
It's pretty funny. Jefferson's Monday Night Did they say. Saturday Live. Hill Street Blues. Do they say that? Hill Street Blues, yes yeah. Yes. Yep. And Fridays?
00:27:33
Speaker
I don't remember that. Yeah, I didn't know that ah show either. That was the one I didn't remember. ah It's a cute song. It's definitely like they're aping a style here with the clappings and the- Yeah, I like that. You know, the harmony at the end, but- That's their joke song on the record. And for that reason, I kind of, I'm skipping it now at this point. Yeah. I don't really like, i take things. I feel like serious TV party is the seedling of lag wagon.
00:28:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Like all of the whimsical shit that Joey Cape does with the weird like party sounds and like, Hey Dave, want to go for a ride? Like, yeah. The first couple lag wagon albums were.
00:28:19
Speaker
Oh God. So fucking good. and I can't believe no lag wagons made it onto this, but anyway. Honorable mentions. ah Straight up. First four albums. ah Next song is ah named after Tyler's original dating profile, Thirsty and Miserable. Jesus Christ. when yeah i Okay, so a while ago, a long time ago, the West Memphis Three, you guys know about these people? I don't know all the details, but ah Henry Rollins did this, like, Black Flag. It's called Rise Above, I think.
00:28:50
Speaker
ah Like, album, and then all these, like... famous rock people saying, I think Lemmy saying thirsty and miserable. And unfortunately, Lemmy ruined thirsty and miserable for me because thursday and miserable it's just like so fucking bad. It's, I mean, I love Lemmy, but I know worst karaoke version. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah ah And then we get to police story. Yeah. Yeah. This is this movie or this song. Like whenever the song plays, I feel like I have this like fucking movie in my head of what's happening.
00:29:26
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Yeah, it is the shit. It is actually like L.A. riots or some shit like. and I don't know. It's not my favorite song, but it is my Inspired By track. But I feel like Tucker wants to play his song first. so You can play yours because it's both of ours. It's both of ours. Yeah, it is both of ours.
00:29:44
Speaker
Well, what inspired you about this? my Oh, if that's not a question? or because I asked myself a question. I think he asked all three of us, but wow take it away, you see.
00:29:58
Speaker
No, you go. No. Jesus Christ. ah So i I was also telling myself to go there. just but All right. the The name of the song, I think, is a riff off of The Police.
00:30:14
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But I would say oh the larger connection is I feel like the band I chose would not be a successful popular band like with top 40 hits without this album coming out first. Oh.
00:30:30
Speaker
Kind of, you know how I feel like Discharge needed to record their album. in order for other albums to come out. I think Damaged is kind of like one of those albums too. It's never going to be a popular record, but it's such a fucking weird... It created a space for this shit. It's a pivotal moment. Seriously. They all of a sudden showed everyone like, oh, we can go in that direction too. Yeah.
00:30:56
Speaker
So that that was the reason for my pick. Oh, wow. And what is your pick? Oh, come on. and now we're going to listen to the beach boys coomo yeah No, we're going to listen to March of the Pigs by Nine Inch Nails.
00:31:38
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are are
00:31:51
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are are
00:32:20
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You feel all that you want Take the scare and give it back Doesn't it make you feel better?
00:32:36
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are
00:32:46
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are
00:32:51
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um by jo we make it I wanna smash it up, I wanna break it
00:33:12
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are
00:33:40
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Doesn't it make you feel better? The pigs have one tonight. They can all sleep soundly.
00:33:53
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And everything is alright.
00:34:00
Speaker
Alright, that was March of the Pigs by Nine Inch Nails. ah I don't know. I don't feel like that band could exist without Black Flag having existed first.

Black Flag's Influence Compared to Nine Inch Nails

00:34:10
Speaker
And there's just like a frenetic angst and energy. Yeah.
00:34:15
Speaker
But the difference is Black Flag was doing it in basements and Nine Inch Nails was selling out fucking a reed. Yeah, they blew up. The 90s were weird. Dude, so weird. You had Jewel and Nine Inch Nails fucking popping off.
00:34:30
Speaker
but And so the the music video for the song was recorded live. And they recorded 18 takes of that and picked the best one. Oh, shit.
00:34:41
Speaker
Wow. How many microphones did they go through that day? Exactly. ah Holy shit, 18? Yeah. and And then you have fucking Black Flag, the only song I think they recorded two takes of.
00:34:55
Speaker
was Rise Above. Oh my God. Everything else they just sort of recorded. Yeah, but her Black Flag was out touring, playing. If you look at some of the tours that Black Flag was doing in the late 70s through the 80s, they were playing sometimes two shows a night.
00:35:16
Speaker
That's for months. Fucking insane. Like they were, look at some of these tour schedules. Like Rollins has his like books, which are basically like diaries. Yeah. And the the shit places that they've played and they just played like fucking crazy. And then they come up, they, they I could imagine them running through an entire album, recording it in one or two takes.
00:35:36
Speaker
Yeah. That's bonkers. You play the songs that much. And especially these songs aren't that elaborate, you know? Yeah. And the whole thing too is that these songs are about the energy. Maybe they didn't understand that at the time, but like, I don't think I would want these songs pieced together like overdubs because they would yeah lose all of the feeling that they have. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. ah So Police Story also inspired you, Tucker?
00:36:01
Speaker
Yeah. So Police Story to me just had that like, teenage, fuck you. I think I know what everything is. Because I mean, like teenagers are cocky and they're invincible, right?
00:36:14
Speaker
I've been there. Like you think you kind of have it all. And like, there's like 40% pure truth to that because it's like that youth perspective. But that 60% is just like cluelessness, inexperienced and just rage.
00:36:27
Speaker
Totally. and so this song personifies that to me that youth perspective that youth experience the most and it inspired um another ah a song by a band that both the band's name and the song's name to me is like poking at that shitty teenage stuff and it's adolescence kids of the black hole
00:37:06
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No sound is heard from Munich too Where there was once so much to do Was once a green mansion and now's a whizlam Our days of reckless fun are through
00:37:57
Speaker
Kids in a family living for the day No rules to abide by and no one to obey Sex, drugs and fun, in the room it's all the care And not a swig, booze, another love and not bear
00:38:20
Speaker
How's that destruction? What a good world? How's that meat on to all the homeless kids? How's that the penalty? How's that a home? How's the destruction? What good world? How's that meat on to all the homeless kids?
00:38:31
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Kids on the black hole!
00:38:54
Speaker
Mental justice structures are the primary decor History's recorded in the glitter on the floor Inhavenants are such a crack of art just hard to change Night and night of chaos, it's so easy to arrange
00:39:15
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I've got a home, house of destruction, what good throw. House of beyond you, all of home is kids. House of the battlefield, I've got a home, house of destruction, what a good throw.
00:39:25
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House beyond you, all of home kids. Kids on the black hole.
00:39:42
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nights of birthdays, nights of pride The nights of it is peaking, the nights of violence The nights of noise, the nights that had to end for good Turned out and understood by the girls and boys
00:41:18
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Every interaction sets the morals they have none When the girl's a hunter who will be the lucky ones? Pushing out the limits to a point of no turn Trask the army lead to show us kids so what to learn How's that the filthy?
00:41:33
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How's that a home? How's that destruction? What a good road How's that the law on the street? Are the homeless kids?
00:41:44
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How's that the filthy? How's that a home?
00:41:50
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Kids of the Black Hole.
00:42:12
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black hole kids of the black hole from adolescent
00:42:18
Speaker
That whole fucking album is that's a good album so good. I could see you actually enjoying at least 60% of that album you see. Oh, I'm fully sold on that just based on that song. That was a great song. It is a really, really great song. And it was weird because it it felt familiar, but it also brand new. So I'm looking forward to listening that entire album on repeat.
00:42:43
Speaker
Nice. inspired by indeed fuck yeah no that was good man and we're only halfway through this fucking record well this next one's for mr dabowski Give give me, give me a real rest in peace.
00:43:00
Speaker
And what a sad story.

Remembering Mr. Dubowski

00:43:02
Speaker
He like died a year after he retired. That's a bummer. That's a fuck you. That's the worst. He put up with so much shit. He was a rad dude.
00:43:12
Speaker
Also, I feel like he was drunk most of the time. Do you think he drank? I, if he didn't drink, he, was, he was special. Let's just say he was special. I mean, this is the guy that did driver's training. If he was like a day drunk, that's, he's endangering our lives. Well, that's why we would have kids drive. Yeah, exactly. its That's the best thing. Hey kids, we're going to parallel park at the liquor store.
00:43:43
Speaker
We're going to go to the bank. I need to do some business. Wow. god so That would be great. Well, after gimme, gimme, gimme. But Gimme Gimme Gimme was, I don't really like that song a whole lot. You I do wonder, there was an ABBA song called Gimme Gimme Gimme, which has, I don't think, any relation. I wonder if they just used the name or if it was, don't know.
00:44:06
Speaker
I don't think it was inspired by. Inspired by fucking ABBA. Gimme Gimme Gimme was one of the songs that I think fluctuated the most, like especially if you listen to Everything Went Black.
00:44:17
Speaker
Gimme Gimme Gimme was kind of like... I forget the singer other singers' names, but like it was kind of wacky on one of the versions. Oh, really? Keith Morris? I don't know. I feel like Rollins kind of nails it in this. I mean, this is the only version I've heard, but it's the first song where...
00:44:33
Speaker
It sounds very disjointed. i mean, there's already like the the, the title part of the song doesn't sound anything like most of the song, you know? Yeah. yeah And then you get to the chorus and it like everything kind of syncs up.
00:44:48
Speaker
Like it's a nice moment. So then it turns into a Busta Rhyme song. Give me some Mo. Yeah. yeah Wow. Wow. Which you wrote on the side of a freaking mini man. Yeah. we did didn't we yeah we wrote some other terrible things on there yo you know you give me some oh was written on one side and we like lipstick on our dipsticks was written i think i saw this yeah i think i saw this this is the annual trip that tucker and a bunch of our other friends would take to come down and visit me at college so they could try and get laid The girls wouldn't even talk to us, let alone look at us, let alone anything else. Yeah.
00:45:29
Speaker
I think you were the most successful out of any of us. to like I feel like what I made i like made out was Susie, wasn't it? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, Jameis just slipped in the...
00:45:41
Speaker
ah like and yeah I think we found Micah in the bushes once. He'd been puking overnight. yeah ah that's smile yeah And there was a bus stop, Jameis. Exactly, because we found it he was sleeping on a bus stop covered in newspapers.
00:45:53
Speaker
Oh my god. I can't imagine. i'm not We shouldn't in give any more details, but how far he's come in life. This 24 years ago, 23 ago. You to sleep bus stop. four years ago twenty three years ago yeah all need sleep on a yeah Bus benched in that perspective. Bus stop, Jase.
00:46:13
Speaker
All right. The gimme gimme rounds out. ah Or gimme gimme gimme rounds out side A. And I feel like side A is the poppier side. It's got okay all of their like true punk hits and the mainstream punk hits.
00:46:32
Speaker
You got spray paint and TV party on the same side. they They're firing on all cylinders. And then side B is where... The darker side. It's little gloomy. yeah we we start It's mental health week. Room 13. Bad and south.
00:46:46
Speaker
but that it so ah ah But I think that's also kind of rare in punk rock at this time to be talking about these things. And so a lot of people... This is what like really triggered me to liking punk rock because it like tapped into...
00:47:03
Speaker
Like the fucking like teenage experience, man. I mean, the lyrics are very literal. um Yeah. But it's still, don't know. It doesn't feel fake, I guess. that's That was my takeaway. As like trite as this side might sound in terms of context. Oh, this is real shit. This isn't like some sappy shit. This is like.
00:47:25
Speaker
Right. No, it's like so raw. Yeah. Like he's pissed off about his depression. Yeah. Yeah, it's ah the whole side is fucking weird. um It's definitely the therapy outside.
00:47:39
Speaker
Well, you have depression. It's like, I'm depressed, but also ah don't pity me. And depression is probably going to kill me. Yeah. and And then you go into room 13 and that starts with keep me alive. Right. Exactly. Only you can do it. No pressure there. Yeah. And it sounds like, but, but I think it sounds like he's giving a pep talk to himself.
00:48:00
Speaker
Whoa. Like, I don't think he's talking to someone else. I i think he's talking to himself. I need help. Yeah. No, before it's too late. This is the shit he's well, in ah in a later song, he talks about holding a gun to his head, but he won't pull the trigger. and you're just like, fuck man.
00:48:16
Speaker
you It looks like Greg Ginn wrote that one. Okay. The um Chuck Dukowski version of that song where he sings it is, I think, the best version of that. You should go through Everything Went Black Okay.
00:48:31
Speaker
And listen to some of it. it's I think there's some better versions of these songs. That's all pre-Rollins. Pre-Rollins, yep. I'll have to check that out. ah the The Damage 2, that was the song that kind of like blew my mind, where I'm just like, how does this exist on this record? yeah And it was an outlier in the best way possible, I guess, if that's the way want to put Really? Yeah.
00:49:00
Speaker
I can understand how, like if you, cause I'm not coming at this from a traditional like punk rock, punk rock fan perspective, like you guys are. And, and so that this just felt like actually a really exciting, weird departure from the rest of the record for me.
00:49:18
Speaker
So, uh, yeah, I don't understand the structure at all, but it fucking rules, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's somehow consistently fast, but it goes left and right and ziggy-zaggy.
00:49:36
Speaker
Yeah. This whole, the second half of the this album has so much space. Like, No More. the The intro to No More is just as long as the rest of the song.
00:49:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yes. It builds up for a minute and a half before i love the actual fucking song. love that. I know. it I love it, too. I'm just like, this is so fucking weird. Because you have a 33 second song on this record.
00:50:03
Speaker
And then you also have no more. And that does not make sense, but it also makes complete sense on this record. do I can't imagine how fucking fun it would be to listen to that song with that super long intro.
00:50:18
Speaker
in the shit, like, in a fucking auditorium with 2,000 kids and all the sweat and, like, all the anticipation. Could you... Dude. Imagine what would happen for when the fucking song starts? Like... yeah Fuck me. and if so to tell you to tell you the truth, you play some small shows where people are into your shit and you like play on that the feeling of energy. and Especially like like punk shows, small punk shows, you can do that and people fucking feed into it.
00:50:47
Speaker
If they did this deliberately, I'm sure their fucking shows were just bonkker insanity. yeah but Bonkers is probably the right. Yeah, I could see a lot of people punching the ceiling.
00:50:58
Speaker
Well, punching Henry Rollins. Yes. like yeah That's insane. I didn't know that people actually did that. People would punch him while he's playing? Yeah. He's just singing and people would be punching him. just sings through it? Yeah.
00:51:12
Speaker
That's pretty badass. You should read some of his fucking books from that time. Yeah. A lot of it, he's just having lots of, he's going through all this shit because now he's like. This band is his therapy.
00:51:24
Speaker
Yeah, well, the band is, like, such a juggernaut, and now all sudden he's, like, the leader of this shit. And granted, Black Flag, in the grand scheme of all music, in 1981 was nothing. Right. But in this scene, it was everything. Yeah, Black Flag was... So now he's the he's he's the guy that ruined Black Flag because he's, like, this new guy with this new voice and, you know, Keith Morris went on to Circle Jerks and, like, whatever. The other big thing. Yeah, the other big thing, and...
00:51:53
Speaker
You know, he's dealing with all that. Plus he has to do the work of all the shows. He has to go to work every day and fucking do the shows and people are spitting and fucking hitting them whatever, you know, like, and all that's so crazy.
00:52:06
Speaker
Write songs about ice cream. Jesus Christ. so
00:52:13
Speaker
Uh, padded cell. That's the, the other kind of like, I'll skip past the track. That's the one I think of, Tyler, because ah he says t says Maniac. Yeah. I feel like you've got Maniac stickers on like tools and stuff.
00:52:25
Speaker
it then. Yeah. Their eyes. Maniacs. Oh, yeah. No, I love that. It's just, it's just it to me, it's a very typical punk song. It's a perfectly fine punk song. Yeah. But the fact that that is a skippable track to me on this album, I think, speaks to how great the other fucking songs are on record.
00:52:45
Speaker
It's not a bad song. It's just, it's not... blowing my fucking mind. It's also most a little hard to follow. that Like you said, where the songs kind of ebb and flow in different ways.
00:52:57
Speaker
It's not super tight, which I don't want it to be. yeah um There is a super tight version, I think on rise above where like rise above is that, that album to raise money for the West Memphis three.
00:53:09
Speaker
So there's a band playing these songs, right? Okay. It doesn't sound any better. Right. But it's the fucking song goes in a lot of weird ways and the timing isn't just right, but I think it kind of just fits part of its charm. Yeah. Yes. im Part of it. Charm.
00:53:26
Speaker
ah Charm. Charming. I would close out with another one-two banger to me, like Life of Pain and Damaged One. but Another super long intro on Life of Pain. Right? Yeah.
00:53:38
Speaker
Like, where's this song? i don't know where it's going to Yeah. And then it takes a fucking hard left and you're like, okay, we are. um for Along for the ride. Yeah.
00:53:50
Speaker
And I guess like Damage 1, mean, when we talk about Henry Rollins being like a feral animal, like that. Yeah. Like he is just grunting and screaming. Oh, he's growling. He's, yeah, like, give me your hand, I'll bite it off. Just like, du just goes into full animal mode. Dude.
00:54:08
Speaker
This is like the Wolverine track of this album. Damage is a song that like, It's you just start playing it and it goes for as long as it goes. Right. It's improvised every I've heard some live versions of it and it's just, it's not the same every time. And it's just different.
00:54:23
Speaker
I've also been in bands where we've played Damaged before and you just fucking keep playing it until it's over with. Okay. Yeah. I love that. I love that there's rec, the last song on this album is another brand new thing, you know? Yeah.
00:54:41
Speaker
Hmm. I fully impressed. I think out of any of the albums that you've shared with me this season, Tyler, this is my favorite that you've picked.

Reflections on 'Damaged' and Its Impact

00:54:51
Speaker
Well, really weird. It's a good fucking album.
00:54:54
Speaker
I'm glad you picked up on the the good parts of it. Cause a lot of people could listen this and be like, Pass. No. This is important music. It's got some jams. Well, it's funny. i figure I feel like it was Rolling Stone or there was another another writer wrote about it and they're like, this album is one of the best.
00:55:15
Speaker
Fucking kids still can bang their heads to it and parents still hate it. Yeah. you know well then oh The next time something really awful happens to you, drink some beers, listen this.
00:55:26
Speaker
Yeah. Some shit will come out. I'm not fucking joking, man. Like I, I'm the kind of person that where something happens, you need to like, like don't hold the shit in. You gotta like fucking let it go. Yeah.
00:55:39
Speaker
And this is a good, this is one of those good albums that can like fucking trigger some shit, you know, like singing is big deal. This episode is sponsored by therapy. Triggersomeshit. Yeah. Wow. true Triggershit.org.
00:55:54
Speaker
I just like Tyler from the point of view of a therapist being like, you know what? I think you need to go home, grab a six pack and put on damaged. Really loud. I recommend you. For fucking real, man. Like how many people, there's a lot of people that need this shit.
00:56:09
Speaker
You know, on my day to day basis in my life, I can tell people that stop drinking. Yeah. And they need to drink. They're just like such awful human beings because they can't have what they want. but Dude, fuck those people.
00:56:24
Speaker
ah Jesus, man. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Nope, thirsty and miserable, dude. Like, fucking Jesus Christ. Good point. All right, we are rounding out our number twos.
00:56:37
Speaker
Said the guy polishing his turds. Yeah. ah We...
00:56:45
Speaker
he sees our role today these fucking dad jokes that's a good one shit uh but now with tucker we're at your second favorite album of all time well are we going talk about like what we've been listening to this week sure before uh we could do that what you've been listening to what how about i ask you ah Are you talking to me or yourself? Well, I was pointing at the screen, and there's all three of us on there, but I'll go with EC first. Okay.
00:57:12
Speaker
I did actually re-listen to nine Inch Nails' Downward Spiral, and that album fucking holds up. Really? Yeah. Like, listen to that. That's 1994, Angst. Damn.
00:57:23
Speaker
I mean, I feel like if I was 14 when Damage came out, that would be my album. like I felt like I just hit at a very specific point. I never got into Nine Inch Nails. I get it. It's industrial. like it's There are certain aspects of that whole music scene that can be just a total turnoff. yeah For some reason, that album resonated with me.
00:57:45
Speaker
It's a solid one. And then the other inspired by pick that I was thinking of doing for this was a track by McCluskey. don't know you ever listened to them. no Scottish punk band.
00:57:56
Speaker
ah The song I was going to suggest is the lightsaber cocksucking blues. Wow. Pure frenetic energy. I like that. I could get behind that. Yeah.
00:58:07
Speaker
Absolutely. Listen to their second album. The Kluski Does Dallas. Okay. Produced by Steve Albini. Oh, shit. and Interesting. I saw them at the 7th Street. and I remember like at the end of the show, the bassist was literally hanging upside down from the rafters. He like wedged his legs in there, playing upside down.
00:58:27
Speaker
Whoa. yeah like It was a bonkers show. That is also bonkers. That is capital B, bonkers. Listen to some McCluskey. Okay, shit. Tyler, what about you? ah Cardi B fucking bongos.
00:58:41
Speaker
Ooh, yeah. Is that an album? No, no, that came out recently. No, it's a song that out. I just love Cardi B. i just... I wish was friends with her. I went and saw Bonnie Raitt last night. That was Pretty darn good. so i heard it was a little Bonnie X rated because people were dancing. Yeah, women, these like 60 year old women were getting kicked out for standing up and doing their 60 year old woman dances, which when I'm 60, I'm gonna be doing the same dances. Yeah. and you're sight of the day I'm not dogging on them. I'm just saying that these fucking terrible humans that were the security were exiting people out of the show because they were having an enjoyable time. They were enjoying it.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yes. Um, granted it was a theater, but fucking come on, man. yeah Just tell them, tell them to stand on the hallway or something and dance. It's great on a Wednesday. I can't help it if they're Satan's puppets. Jesus Christ. Um,
00:59:39
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty much it. Well, for me this week, by actually, the like the three weeks it's taken for us to do this episode has been very stressful for me in the sense that I've been trying to determine for sure who my number two was going to be.
00:59:53
Speaker
Because as I was talking to EC before, i think my number three should have been my number two. And then that would have made number three a little bit easier to decide. But I have had like five or six albums that I've written down, crossed off, written down, crossed off, reordered.
01:00:09
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um So two of the ones that were like honorable mentions were the ones I was listening to the most. um Dr. Dog's B-Room album. I think that was 2013.
01:00:22
Speaker
um Also, that was probably even tied with Dr. Dog Fate. I fucking love Dr. Dog. And then the other one, um which it was a very reluctant to move away from, but Solange's second album. When I'm, when I get home, I love Solange. Yeah. Solange is good. Oh, she's so good.
01:00:39
Speaker
Could never get into Dr. Duck. You know, I think it's just not for some, it's as close as I can get to like a wacky jam band. Yeah. that ah Please tell me that's the descriptor for us. No, on iTunes.
01:00:54
Speaker
For fans of wacky jam bands.
01:00:59
Speaker
Take me to the edge, not over it. Wacky jam bands sounds like the worst like junior high trend. Oh my God. It's like, oh yeah, you just... It's probably on TikTok right now.
01:01:11
Speaker
We need to start trending wacky jam band. Oh, can we just trend? i love ging and Oh, ah zany, zany jam band. There you go. Zany. I fucking hate the word zany. I think wacky is even worse than jam band.
01:01:25
Speaker
Yeah. I also think a dog being a doctor is just as ridiculous. I mean, dog tur Jones. There you go. Okay. So eventually i had an aha moment.
01:01:40
Speaker
Oh, is it aha? It's aha. Was heroin involved? No, there was no, um, inebriation of, of any sorts, but, um, and it was clear as day.
01:01:52
Speaker
And I was like, of course, this is, this is absolutely, this is absolutely it. So I guess my, you want to take a guess? Yeah. Uh, Madonna, Whitney Houston. I'm doing Madonna. That would be my guess actually.
01:02:04
Speaker
you know what? I think that those are good guesses. Those are really good guesses. And this is why I surprised myself with this number two spot here. Can you surprise yourself? You are you.
01:02:19
Speaker
You know it's coming. I check in myself. It's not like you wake up in the middle the night like, God damn it. Okay, never mind. Sorry. That's exactly how all of your wet dreams happen, Tyler. Every morning starts that way. God damn it. I woke up again.
01:02:39
Speaker
Gentleman from Afghan Wigs. Oh, really? Okay. Okay. Well, we already know how EC feels about it. Sorry, did I just make the trombone sound? Oh, my God.
01:02:56
Speaker
Holy shit. Is that sadness in your pocket? Jesus Christ. No, I think I was just really looking forward to listening to Madonna. I mean, we could trade it out. Holy shit.
01:03:08
Speaker
Afghan Wigs. Join us next week for E-Seated.
01:03:14
Speaker
ah Sorry, what was the name of the album? Gentlemen. Gentlemen. And this came out in... 1993. Dang. This is their fourth studio album, believe it or not. But this is the one where they like... This is their... Everything fucking hit.
01:03:28
Speaker
All right. You said 93? 93. Jesus Christ. we were years yeah But you didn't listen to this album when you were 13. not until I was like 17 or 18. Okay, all right. So a few years later.
01:03:42
Speaker
Fuck, man. All right, i'm I am excited to listen to this album. All right. Well, Tyler, is this an album you're familiar with? and Not at all. Okay. Oh, sick. So no fresh takes on okay Tucker's second favorite album of all time, The Afghan Way.
01:04:01
Speaker
Looking forward to it. Until then, bye. Later. Toodles.