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Rediscovering Your Style After Motherhood
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In this week’s episode of Just 4 Moms, the moms are talking all things mom fashion — from finding your style again after babies to balancing comfort with confidence. Megan hosts as Caitlin, Kallie, and Charlotte share honest (and hilarious) takes on what’s in their closets these days — from the OG outfit-of-the-day blogger days to postpartum comfort eras and trendy wardrobe experiments.
They chat about how motherhood changes your relationship with clothes, tips for re-establishing your style, and why sometimes yoga pants really are the answer. Plus, Rent the Runway, wardrobe cleanses, and whether skinny jeans are really out.
As always, the episode kicks off with their Mom Fails (including a basketball mix-up and $574 worth of socks) and ends with this week’s Pits and Peaks — featuring a racy concert and a viral room.
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Transcript
Microphone Memories and Toy Talk
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello? Yes. Oh, testing. um sound That sounded like Arbor's like little echo microphone. Oh my God. My kids sang the shit out of those microphones. Yeah. They're good.
00:00:12
Speaker
They found their like hamster this morning. You know, the one that she got, like a real hamster. Cause they're always, they always do run away. No, the hamsters that you could talk into. yeah And they copy your voice. Like a,
00:00:27
Speaker
Oh boy, she's gone. we got that was We got that in stockings one year. And it's exactly what she's describing. It's a little hamster and you'll record it being like, hey, how's it going? And then the hamster will be like, hey, how's it going?
00:00:39
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Yes. oh Thank you for describing that since Mai just popped off the internet again. Yeah, I think that made its way to Goodwill without my kids knowing.
00:00:50
Speaker
Yeah. That sounds like something I would probably, yeah. Mm-hmm. It needs to go now that I found it. It's funny though. Some of those sound effect ones, um, sorry, I can't hear myself in Some of those sound effect ones, um, they're really fun, but I feel like an asshole giving them to people.
Tech Troubles and Taylor Swift's Influence
00:01:12
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Yeah. Like the karaoke mic gave us hours of pleasure, but that's a terrible gift to give to someone. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I love our karaoke machine, but that hamster, no.
00:01:23
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Hamster's bad. i feel like my sister and I traded back and forth a couple years. Do you ever get those um megaphones that they would alter your voice? So one would be like a robot, and one which is sort of fun, and you just have to be able to remove it when it's time.
00:01:41
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no and don't want one. Megan is making the most confused Megan looks totally lost. Oh, now she's gone. I'm going to say stop. thirty four No, it's listen. We'll riff. Will she get back in?
00:01:54
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If I already have hit recording though? I don't know. ah I've never tried it. It is from 34 episodes. Still figuring out our doubt.
00:02:05
Speaker
No, it's always time. Yeah. yeah yeah Sorry. We had, we had we had a A guy yesterday, we haven't had our furnace service since we moved in. And now that it's like cold at night.
00:02:19
Speaker
Oh, now Callie's frozen. No, she's not. What is going on today? I was just thinking really intently about your furnace guy. ah But now that we now that it's cold, like we need heat.
00:02:30
Speaker
And it's all up and running, but at one point I had to reconnect one of those, it wasn't a nest, it was like some off brand of those like digital thermostats and they had connected it wrong. And so this guy was standing over my shoulder as I was reconnecting it.
00:02:44
Speaker
And the questions, you know, the questions you go through or like making sure it's set up right, I have never felt like such a boomer in my life. He was like, yes, yes, no. And I was like, okay, okay.
00:02:55
Speaker
I didn't even know what he was reading, what he was answering. So it's all coming for us. Do I sound too loud, guys, or am I good? Sure do. Loud, right? You're yeah also in a cave of some sort. i know, right? What's going on today? oh Your echo needs to be- Wait, Charlotte, tell me.
00:03:12
Speaker
Turn it the other- Echo Whatever you're doing, do less the other way. Okay. it's not I don't even think she's talking into the microphone. I think she's just- No. No.
00:03:23
Speaker
Okay. Hang on. How about now? No echo. Great, but too loud. Too loud. Okay. How about now? too Too loud. Too loud? Okay.
00:03:34
Speaker
Well, maybe if it wasn't right next to your face while you said it. yeah How about now? That seems better. but to Give us another sentence. Is it too loud? feels louder than everyone else. A little louder. Okay.
00:03:46
Speaker
will lower. Not crazy, but a little. How about now? Good. Much better. Okay.
Introducing the Podcast and Labubu Toy Craze
00:03:52
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Such a fun morning here with a Technology and being a boomer here too.
00:03:59
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um I wanted to show you guys I have this on. I want to take it off.
00:04:05
Speaker
It's the the Taylor Swift posture belt. It looks miserable. I just wanted to show that I got it because Caitlin told me I needed to get one. and Does it work good though? Do you feel like your posture is better? is like It's so much Velcro. so You do sweat when you wear it. I will say that. okay and i wore it walking around the house. i mean It does make you sit up.
00:04:28
Speaker
Because like a metal bar on your spine. Is that the – and then it like wraps around your waist? Yeah. No. Yeah. So anyway, so I'm a copycat to Taylor Swift, but um yeah.
00:04:40
Speaker
And my Gianna tried it too and she was like, mom, it really makes you like, yeah. the Shoulders back, boobs out, like yeah. I don't know. But the problem is it's not like you can wear that with an outfit.
00:04:51
Speaker
It's not like like that. is it just supposed to train you? It's not like something so airy and around. feel like for recording today, if I really wanted to, I could wear it under my sweater. Okay. And we wouldn't know.
00:05:02
Speaker
Correct. And you would be like this. Yeah. Is everything all right? Don't the straps come over your boobs? Yep. So then we would see like a Well, she had a jacket over at the top. She's putting it under her sweater. Yeah. So I just wanted to show that I got it and maybe our listeners want to try it out too, but.
00:05:23
Speaker
After you're glowing, glowing endorsement. I, they're going to, there's going a rush on top. For sure. Sold out. Welcome to Just For Moms. I'm Charlotte. I'm Kaitlin.
00:05:34
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I'm Megan. And I'm Callie. We are regular moms talking about regular stuff like aging, parenthood, work-life balance, and figuring out what's for dinner. Again, no-judgment zone to talk, laugh, and maybe cry about all the things women think about on a daily basis. things i'll plan the things what Anyways, Just For Moms here, Megan, Charlotte, Callie, Kaitlin.
Fashion's Role in Identity and Motherhood
00:05:56
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We're back. Seamless entry.
00:06:00
Speaker
I also wanted to get right in here and ask you all if you have one of these in your house, a labubu. we have but We have so many and I'm so mad.
00:06:11
Speaker
What that? You do? Hold it closer. Aren't they the weirdest thing? You've heard of it, right, Callie? Is it supposed to? No. Is it supposed to be scary? That's the point? Supposed to be horrifying?
00:06:22
Speaker
It's supposed to be like scary cute. But tell her what it's for. It's not like a toy. it's like a, it's like a beanie baby of 2025. But you're meant to hang them on your bags, right?
00:06:35
Speaker
Well, yeah. but yeah for all jess a yeah yeah Yeah. They hang them on their bags. They carry them around. They're just there. It became such a fad. and they be You have to order them from this website, Pop Mart, if you want the real ones and they can take,
00:06:52
Speaker
like months to get to you and they can be really expensive and then people resell them. And have so many stories about lafufus, like fake ones my kids have gotten because my mother-in-law got scammed And one that came from Greece.
00:07:11
Speaker
So he's like a Greek labubu. And yeah, there's fancy. I hate them. Yeah. i Well, I hate, I wish you would stop holding it up. I hate it so much. I hate that my mother-in-law probably spent like $300 trying to get them for Eileen only to get a couple of fake ones because she was like letting ladies like tell her they were real where she lives in Tennessee. And she would like drive to meet them and get them and ship them to Eileen.
00:07:39
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And one of them, she opened and Eileen's like, the box was kind of already opened. My mother was like, no, no, no, it's fine. and when Eileen opened it up, the head just like popped right off.
00:07:50
Speaker
Oh boy. But don't all the girls put, I mean, um they're always put on the bags or no, are they? None of my daughters have theirs on their backpacks. They're just all over my house.
00:08:01
Speaker
I don't know if it's because they were afraid they were going to fall off, but even Arbor has them in her crib. I did learn, Callie, in case you're interested. So we knew this was Lafufu. When it's fake, Callie, it's a Lafufu, not a Lafubu, because toenails are painted.
00:08:20
Speaker
And they're not supposed to be? And they're not supposed to be. So- So there's a store over here at the Sono Mall. I think it's what called Pop. You said it, Caitlin. Pop Mart. This is not from Pop Mart. Nico got this at a toy store and the owner was like, we think it's a fake.
00:08:37
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But Nico was like, I still want it, mom. And then he brought it on the bus and his friend was like, yeah, Nico, that's a little foo-foo. It's fake.
00:08:46
Speaker
So where, where did this come from? I think it came from a celebrity had one on her purse. And then with the kids on the Tik TOK, it just exploded. The kids on the Tik TOK. Yeah. okay I don't know how my daughters like got into them, but suddenly they were talking about them and I'm like, don't stop saying that word.
00:09:06
Speaker
And they're like, what? laoobo And I'm like, don't, I can't hear it anymore. And then when I saw one, I said, this is horrible. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I'll have to ask my Louisa. She's the one, my sixth grader is the one that is usually most susceptible to these like trendy things. And we don't have any in our house, but I'm curious if it's on her brain.
00:09:25
Speaker
Yeah. I was hoping they'd phase out soon though. They're still, i bet through Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. And if you're a mom and have this on your bag, this is, that's all I need to know about you.
00:09:39
Speaker
Because now moms are putting them on their totes too. Can you imagine? no No, it's scary. It's not cute. I don't like it. I don't like scary things anyways.
00:09:50
Speaker
I'm going to Google them now because I want to see what other ones look like. Oh, they have their themes. Apparently there's ah a Halloween or a Christmas one coming that my mother-in-law ordered. Do you guys feel like you are susceptible to these like,
00:10:03
Speaker
like I don't know whether it was Beanie Babies when we were younger or these things where you're collecting multiple items. I feel like the miniature food, like I was not inclined to grab all these things as a kid. My sister was a huge collector, like Garbage Pail Kids. You name it, she was a collector of it.
00:10:20
Speaker
I was not so much. I mean, I, listen, I have stuff like this. I'm not a collector, but here are my 800 gloves. I know. I mean, I like many items of one thing, but I didn't ever get into Beanie Babies or what are other ones?
00:10:35
Speaker
That people collected multiples of. Pokemon cards. Pokemon cards. Yeah. Pokemon did that to grade. Pogs. Pogs. I still have mine. mean, I did them sort of, but not like to never to an obsessive level. like I would get like enough Pogs to play Pogs.
00:10:53
Speaker
There was nothing that was like, ah you know. Yeah, my mom wouldn't let us. like she just They were not buying that for us. yeah I wanted to, but no.
00:11:04
Speaker
yeah Which is why the grandmothers, i I guess, apparently are buying them for my kids now. And I'm like, I won't even spend a dime on a lafufu. Not even a lafufu. That's perfect grandmother gift. When I was in Provincetown over the summer, I saw a big sign that said La Boobie's sold here.
00:11:21
Speaker
And it was, and my kids were like, what do you think i'll a La Boobie is? And I was like, just keep walking, please. That's funny. for Okay. So we're moving on. kind Okay. Okay.
00:11:33
Speaker
Mom fails. Uh, Caitlin, do you have any mom fails this week? Yeah. I got caught throwing out Arbor's preschool artwork. Like, like, I went to throw it out and she saw me doing it. And she's like, but that's my work. And and I was like, oh okay, but okay. And then I put it on the counter. And then she went to go get dressed for school. And i just slipped it back in the trash.
00:12:00
Speaker
And then Brandon went to take the trash out and she saw it and she cried. And I was like, well, we got muffins, cat food on it, and it smells really bad now. And so we can't keep it I mean, I already have seven different pieces of artwork hanging on the playroom wall, and she only started school a month and a week ago.
00:12:18
Speaker
I didn't need to hang this one up too. So, yeah, she's mad at me. Charlotte, do you have a mom fail? I mean, i already mentioned it a little bit. We didn't have heat in our house. and we So the kids would come down, and they were like, it's kind of cold last night.
00:12:32
Speaker
So I think we fixed it, but that was our mom fail, no heat. Okay. Okay. Callie, my son had crazy sock day today and I was prepared. I ordered crazy socks on Amazon, a set of, it was like, you know, $16 for like four of them. I'm like, okay,
Challenges of Online Shopping and Fashion's Social Influence
00:12:47
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great.
00:12:47
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um I accidentally ordered. 60 boxes of them. Shut up. Michael's like, what what did we buy on Amazon for $574? And I was like, that seems wrong.
00:12:59
Speaker
Must be a scam. Let's log in and look. And it was just 60 boxes of crazy sex. They keep coming. and We haven't even gotten all of them. They didn't all come together? absolutely not. Oh, God, no. No. Yeah.
00:13:11
Speaker
i don't how How did that happen? So my Amazon actually had a glitch. Like, you know how sometimes you'll get like a new version of Amazon because they're always testing button colors to make you buy stuff faster.
00:13:22
Speaker
I got a new version with orange buttons. I noticed that right away. But I noticed when they unrolled this new one that I would have I couldn't delete stuff from my car. And like if I would try to buy something, it would default.
00:13:33
Speaker
to the highest, but I only, I figured this out obviously after I had ordered. so like if I would add something to my cow, it would, it would add it to my car at the maximum quantity that you could buy.
00:13:44
Speaker
So apparently the maximum quantity of curtsy socks is 60 and that is how many bought. This poor company. It's going to be like, yes, we covered our, yeah. For, for the year. Now, did this happen by any chance on Monday, Callie, when there was that glitch?
00:14:02
Speaker
No. Oh, okay. it was I was so prepared. i was the prepared mom. I was like, Crazy Sock Day, I'll make sure we have them. I ordered them like two and a half weeks ago. Yeah. What if you contact the school and tell them that you can supply socks for Crazy Sock Day for the next few years? I don't want to lose $574 worth of socks.
00:14:18
Speaker
Well, I mean, maybe you could sell them to parents.
00:14:23
Speaker
Too late. I'm just going to return them. Yeah, just return them. What if it's that – you know how sometimes you would return things and it's like, that's okay, just keep it. Oh, my God. Well, then I'll donate them.
00:14:34
Speaker
Great. Yeah. save me a pair. Yeah, sure. They're cute. You get it. Give me your Halloween. You'd be the best house on a Halloween. Yes. Socks. That's a good idea. I like that.
00:14:46
Speaker
That's great idea. I won't help clean up the egging that'll happen when those kids are like, F this. Socks. No, I have so much candy because I told you this is the place where everyone, so much candy in my house right now. So.
00:15:00
Speaker
Yes. So my mom fail was, well, I almost missed the sign up for Nico's basketball program. Yeah, that would have been rough. Yeah.
00:15:11
Speaker
Yeah. And then- He needed a basketball, but somehow we we lost all of them in the yard. You know how that goes. Like they play with them outside. They go in the stream.
00:15:22
Speaker
Maybe the neighbor borrows it. So then it's like the monday this past week, Monday, that i ah you know got you signed up even though i had to email a coach and i he wasn't too happy. He's like, you know, I sent out six emails and you're lucky I'm letting you join. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
00:15:42
Speaker
But now the problem is we can't find the basketball. And then I found one in the yard and I pumped it, right? And he came off the bus. I'm like, look, Nico, like basketball's all set. So it must have had a hole in it and it was already like deflated.
00:15:56
Speaker
Oh. Yeah. So then I ran out to the sports store ye and got a brand new basketball. And in our pits and peaks, I will get into what happened. Great.
00:16:09
Speaker
We had it for two days. That's for the end of this episode. But anyway, so that was my mom fail. I have a question about this yeah basketball though. Why do they need to bring their own basketball?
00:16:20
Speaker
It's part of the program and they tell you a certain size and it's for the tryout. So it's like, Hey, uh, the tryouts, these two days bring this size basketball.
00:16:31
Speaker
And yeah, I don't think even once he gets on his team that they supply the basketballs, I'm pretty sure it's in the checklist of things to participate but that is a good point caitlin yeah my my daughter had to bring her own soccer ball and this was like a club sport that we were paying we already talked about we paying a lot of money for yeah i don't get it either yeah the soccer ball thing arbor's playing soccer she brings her own but then they don't even use it they use a bag of like toddler balls So I'm like, why did, I don't know.
00:17:03
Speaker
I mean, it may be as simple as that the coaches bring two or three for like drills and it's just nice for them to have their own for warmups and stuff, but we're in the same camp as you, Megan.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah. Anyhow. okay So let's get right into this week's topic, which is mom fashion. Okay. And i want to discuss with all of you, as a mom, how to find and reestablish your style after becoming a mother.
00:17:36
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i want to get your personal experience, how you've managed your wardrobe through the years of becoming a mom and embracing motherhood through clothing.
00:17:48
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So for me personally, 100% since having kids, I don't know why, but my style and my fashion changed.
00:18:00
Speaker
I don't know if it's because we're tired or i feel like I have to set an example is a big thing for me. And I feel like things I obviously wore in my twenty s and 30s probably aren't appropriate to wear around my children now, and now being 43.
00:18:19
Speaker
My style has changed since my first firstborn, Ava, is now 15, and I look back at photos of myself, what I wore fat that I thought was fashionable as a mom for her fur for myself being around her at age one, and I look at those photos now, and I'm like, what was I – do you ever look at photos and you're like, why was I wearing that? What was I thinking?
00:18:46
Speaker
You know? So I feel like I'm all about comfort now at age 43, my mom fashion. I do get dressed up when I have somewhere to be or an event to go to, or if it's, you know, at the kid's school for like teacher night, I'll wear, which is crazy now to think that dressing up is jeans and like a top and dare I say blouse because I feel like that's something my mom would say, right?
00:19:12
Speaker
Yeah. So I definitely feel that, you know, it's just thrown at me in a way and – i I want to kind of a part of me wants to wear the clothes maybe sometimes that I might have worn in my 20s, but there's no way like I'm doing it. I need to interrupt. okay I need to interrupt and know what these clothes were because I'm sitting here thinking. I know. Are these shorts?
00:19:37
Speaker
I'm picturing like really short skirt. Yeah. Okay. yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I was definitely the short skirts, short. Like even Caitlin one time is like, and she's right. I do like to wear fitted things. That's just my thing.
00:19:50
Speaker
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but not like slutty things. Yeah, thank you. Right, Caitlin? I appreciate Yes, that's the word. Probably in the 20s, the outfit choices were ah definitely slutty.
00:20:04
Speaker
Yeah. And then, you know, that- that's not appropriate in the work world and you you're done with college and you can't wear those. So that's my personal thoughts on it. We'll get into different aspects of it, but let's go to Charlotte.
00:20:22
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Mom fashion for you, Charlotte, how do you feel about – how do you feel about it? Well, as you were talking, I was trying to think – feel like I am – susceptible to whatever is on trend. So I'm definitely having to like not get into every fast fashion thing.
00:20:43
Speaker
And so I think I've always been a little bit like that. So to your point, I look back at photos from 10 years ago and go, oh, Because I was always sort of doing what seemed to me was on trend, and that is totally going to change. Like, I'd suspect those photos that made you cringe, you were right in the bell curve of what people were wearing, right?
00:21:05
Speaker
Yes, yes. Everyone else was wearing it, but yeah, it's… Yeah, some of them are cringey. So I guess I don't feel like my fashion changed a ton… from being a mom, it definitely had to accommodate like changing body types and age.
00:21:21
Speaker
My biggest fear and worry now is that I'm not dressing my age. And I know that's a very, and I feel like I brought this up before. i know that's a very sort of vague parameter, but We all know when someone is dressing too young for their age. Like, i don't know. You know those cute, like, really boxy cotton, like, bodysuit things that, like, free people will sell. Like, there's a name for them. And, like, they're not flattering. Your butt is saggy, but they're so comfortable.
00:21:50
Speaker
I feel like I saw, like, like someone who was, like, my parents' age, it felt like wearing it. And I was like, oh, that, like, you do you. But that they felt um incongruous.
00:22:04
Speaker
Like, I definitely was like, I feel like that is meant for a 25-year-old and you're 75. And I just, I noticed it. And so I guess that's my worry as I get older is that I'll be wearing things that, again, anyone can wear whatever they want.
00:22:20
Speaker
And it wasn't like inappropriate. It just, I noticed it. And that's sort of, you don't want, you don't want to be wearing an outfit that makes someone go, oh, huh. Yeah. Yeah. But I do have to say, I feel like your style fits you perfect and you have style and you're on trend and it's Charlotte, you know, it's like, I mean, I guess that's the goal. I mean, thank you. But do you, I guess I would ask the same to all of you. Do you guys feel like you have a style that reflects your personality? Is that the goal? Are you just trying to cover your body?
00:22:48
Speaker
I mean, i think I dress in what I like. I don't know what my personality would look like if it was an outfit though. Like, i I feel like whenever I see Charlotte, you're, it actually, you all kind of look like your personality to me now that I'm thinking about this.
00:23:02
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But I would say the same to you. yeah I would too. Oh, okay. Like, that's very, a Caitlyn dress, I feel I don't, yeah, right?
00:23:13
Speaker
But I'm in such a different, like, like I only just started getting dressed up again for work, but for like the last couple years, I was in the same uniform every day.
00:23:25
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And so like when we would get together and record in person and I would wear things, I remember a lot of times I would tell you guys, this is old. Cause was like old Caitlin's back. And right now that's the same thing. I'm wearing my older clothes, but I'm just pulling some other stuff out. So I guess it is my personality then if I'm not changing everything over and over again. Yeah.
00:23:44
Speaker
Any other thoughts on mom fat fashion, Caitlin? Uh, I, you know, I was trying to imagine in my mind what Charlotte said about that jumpsuit thing. Um, pretty sure I have one. Oh, I definitely have one.
00:23:58
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And Brandon was like, i had like what so yeah yeah like yeah why are you wearing that? And i truth I don't know if I've ever seen anyone really look cute in it. oh um but if I were to see my mother wearing it, I'd say, please take that off right now.
00:24:13
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Like you can't, no, just that doesn't work. And I love, I remember going on a field trip with one of my children and her teacher was a lot younger than me.
00:24:24
Speaker
And she had on an outfit and I looked at it and I thought immediately I could never wear that. And it was something that's very trendy. i think it was like a really boxy shirt with really wide leg jeans and some kind of chunky sneaker. And not only is that not my style, but also if I put it on, I'd feel like just dopey. Like I shouldn't, I'm too old to wear this.
00:24:47
Speaker
So there, I think there's this weird quiet line. But then I also think there's women who just don't care and mothers. and just like you know but it's Fashion is always fascinating to me because, and I remember thinking this a while ago, but it's like we are not, none of us are in a vacuum. Like we are all exposed to the same in theory, we're all exposed to the same trends. Like whatever celebrities are wearing is presumably what is in fashion.
00:25:15
Speaker
And presumably we're all sort of witness to that. And it's interesting how that trickles down and percolates. So some people are wearing that same Winnie the Pooh sweatshirt that they had in high school. And, you know, you see them rocking it today and maybe, maybe they don't care.
00:25:30
Speaker
Maybe there's things they just want to be comfortable with. Like there's a lot of maybes, but it's such an interesting thought experiment to me that what makes someone choose what they choose, you know, presumably everyone's putting their best foot forward, but maybe not. Like it's – it gets fuzzy because – I don't know my point is, but it's it gets as interesting to me how much of it is habit. Like you were describing that outfit and I was thinking you'd look cute AF in that outfit.
00:25:59
Speaker
But if you've never worn that at some point, you're like, that's what the kids are wearing. I'm not going to even try it. And then like, is that what happened to Winnie the Pooh sweatshirt? That they were like, this is great. I'm not going to evolve because I don't think it would suit me. And they don't try. are they right?
00:26:13
Speaker
Because you're also small. So I could see that like a big baggy shirt and pants, you might try it on and be like, I'm too short to wear. like box whatever you're describing like there's there's a lot of factors and it's just I find it really interesting I like this topic Megan yeah no yeah no well and I think it's interesting because I feel like fashion can be like I feel like some people take it as part of don't if like a personality trait is correct. Like, I think there's obviously some people who have more of like a sort of baseline. Like, I don't think any of our styles are like wildly one way or the other. Right. But like, I was shopping for, my husband were getting costumes we're going to party the day after Halloween. And the theme is like,
00:26:55
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like the craft, you know, like the movie, craft. Right. So I'm like trying to find outfits and there are, there are people who have posted things on Pinterest, like, but and that's how they dress all of the time. Like that is, and that's like, that's a very iconic, clear style. Like if you saw that person, you'd be like, that is that person's, but some of it, it's like, you have to wonder, it's sort of like this,
00:27:16
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I don't know if like personality trait is right. You kind of wonder what it is about somebody that them like, this is the way that I am. I don't know. It is. Yeah, no, it makes sense. It's not, it's not a uniform either. I'm trying to think of the word it's.
00:27:30
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Well, it's an identity. Identity. For some people it helps validate who they are. I think for some people it might be like a bit of a shell to help.
00:27:41
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present who they want to present. Like, yeah I don't know. I'm thinking of someone in total black goth. Like they may love that style, but I also think the world is going to, the world is seeing them in a way that perhaps they want to present.
00:27:54
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And so even if inside they're warm and fuzzy, they like the way the world receives them. I don't. I'm getting deep. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. and know Well, no, yeah I mean, now I'm picturing when I was, I went through a whole stage of when I first started blogging and Instagram and, you know, outfit of the day.
00:28:15
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And in my mind, I was like, I idolized c Blair Waldorf, gossip girl. And I thought if I dressed like her, then people would think, oh, that girl, you know, that girl is so put together. That girl has everything that she is just like, I'd be Blair, you know, maybe not her personality, but I would be Blair. I would be Serena. i would be You know, some girl who went to an Ivy League. i That's what I wanted people to look at me and think.
00:28:43
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Yeah. Was I that person? No. But that's what I wanted them to see. And and just, you know. So I'm thinking of everybody who dedicates them themselves to this one style. Yeah.
00:28:56
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Yeah. No, and then today, being on social media, all of us, I know for me, and you can all voice your opinion here too, there are a few fashion fashionistas that I follow, and I do – like, if I have somewhere to go – or a big, you know, a wedding, I might go to their page and look at things that they've worn because I look up to them for style. Cause I don't feel like i you know, I used to work in fashion before kids, but it's changed so much. And I don't feel like I'm up to date as much as I should be, but I try to keep up with it and follow the trends and, you know, LTK and shop my, but you know, I feel like I'm not,
00:29:43
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You know, up there where i used to be, where I used, you know, I felt like my whole paycheck when I worked in the fashion industry, probably 75% it,
00:29:54
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was spent on clothing and how you looked. Because when you work in fashion, I mean, you have to look good every day, everything. And I'm so glad I don't have to do that anymore because it's so much work. Yeah.
00:30:05
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you know But it is so tangled up to in identity, right? like So you, Caitlin, were like, this is how, if I look like this, this is how people will accept me. And that's an identity that you were trying on and wanting And i feel like that's got to be a spectrum. Like for me, there is always like this personal, I want people to see me as, I don't know, creative and a little bit unique and colorful. And so that plays out in the clothes that I wear.
00:30:30
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And, but it's something I think about, whereas I do think there's a whole category of folks that it doesn't even occur to them. They're just like, I'm covering my body. I'm going out to like, this doesn't itch and let's go.
00:30:41
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and it's, it's interesting where you land on that. I don't know that you try or don't try. It's just where you are. on that spectrum, but it's. Do you do you when you have to go somewhere, do you guys ever Google like, OK, I just went to the Tate McCray concert, brought my daughters.
00:30:57
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I looked up to see what does a mom wear to a Tate McCray concert? Because if you look up Tate McCray outfits, it's all of these young girls. But I wanted to see, like, what is appropriate? What should a mom wear? How how are you supposed to dress?
00:31:13
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And I do that for a lot of things. You know, it's a rainy day and I'm going to a concert. What should I wear? I don't just go to my closet and put on whatever I feel like. I'm always wondering what I should wear, which is kind of sad that I'm just not making it up myself, but that's the reality of it.
00:31:32
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Yeah. I did that with Taylor Swift on Pinterest, Caitlin, same thing. I was like mother, daughter, Taylor Swift looks, you know, even though I probably had somewhat of an idea what I was going to wear, but.
00:31:44
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Yeah. yeah Callie, do you Google outfit looks or you just wing it? I don't go. i No, i don't Google outfit looks. I don't think.
00:31:55
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I mean, like when if I'm going, like I said, we're going to a themed party. I will look up outfits for that. But I don't. um I don't know that I don't. I mean, I do care about fashion and I care about how I look and how I'm presented.
00:32:10
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But i yeah I can't say that like I. I care a lot about like what's super trendy is not like top of my list. Like I care more that it looks good on me and like I feel comfortable in it more than like somebody's going to like, I don't care that somebody's going to look at me and be like, she's, she's trendy is like not, that's not like a point item for me. So it, yeah. So like Googling what the right outfit would be.
00:32:35
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is just not where I am yeah currently. Definitely cared more before motherhood. But I also am in a weird place. Like I had four kids back to back. And so basically like my body just did this for like eight years, you know, being either pregnant or obviously when you're postpartum, you know, and,
00:32:51
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And so I'm kind of in a weird place too with that where it's like, you know, you're wearing your pregnancy clothes and then you wear the stuff that you can wear postpartum for a little while and then finally you can wear the other stuff and then you can't again because you're pregnant. So I feel like I'm in a kind of weird place with all of that too. For a long time it was just sort of like...
00:33:08
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when I'm mostly when I'm pregnant or early postpartum, it's like, what's comfortable. And then, you know, i stay home with my kids and then I had kids like during COVID. So it was like, yeah, what's comfortable. I wasn't really going anywhere. So like, what's the point of really getting super dressed up.
00:33:24
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And now I'm sort of, obviously we're out of COVID and I do sort of go out and about. I'm obviously like taking my kids to school and I do, you know, i try to like put on real pants and like look somewhat put together. Like I don't like to just I do like to look put together.
00:33:36
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i don't necessarily like to look, I don't necessarily care about looking trendy as much. um But I do, I feel like I'm in a ah weird place right now because even like I'm in one of those weird places where like the pants that fit six months ago are now too big, right? Cause I had a baby last year. So it's like every day is sometimes like a little bit of a battle because I'm like, okay, well these pants are now too big, but those pants are probably too small. And so I kind of just outfit repeat. And I'm okay with that. Like, it's comfortable for me, and I feel like I look all right.
00:34:05
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um But I am in a weird place with outfits, and obviously motherhood has has changed that just because of what your body goes through over and over again. yeah And I have little kids, too, so, like, i need I need outfits that, like, I can, like, sling juice boxes in, you know? Yeah.
00:34:22
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It's interesting, though. It doesn't sound like any of us have dressed differently because – were moms just at face value. I mean, obviously because our bodies change or because we're older, but I don't, maybe you're the only one. You said you were a little tighter. Yeah. Well, like Ava went to a concert last weekend, right? And she was going with the boy, her boyfriend and the dad. So She tried on the outfit that she ordered and I was like, the shorts. I was like, Ava, you can't wear that with him. Like, you're going with the dad. You have to, like, show respect. And that's how I was brought up. It's like, you know, again, I'm thinking of how my parents with certain things I would wear and they would tell me to go change. This was too short. That doesn't, you know, we're going here. you you need to have a collar.
00:35:11
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So I felt like my parents and I was like, Ava, no. We can't, the shorts are getting returned. The top's fine because the top was a little risky too. I mean, you know how these outfits are today for these tweens in the concerts. I don't know. Maybe it's Ava and her friends, but I'm not a huge fan of it.
00:35:26
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And so, yeah, so we didn't wear the shorts. We put a leather jacket over the top. So that was covered. She wore a longer skirt. I mean, I just, I try to work with her, but it's also, you have to be look appropriate somewhat, you know?
00:35:42
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I guess my question too, Megan, for you, because like you sort of said, you're like, well, used to wear this and I don't wear it now. Like yeah you think some of it is like you look at the outfit and you're just like, no, I cannot wear that because I am 43. Or you're just, are you like,
00:35:58
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I don't want to wear that because I'm 43. Or do you feel like it's off limits to you? I feel like it's just in my head of being being an example around my kids. Like I just remember Express wearing those really fitted short Express or they were the score where it's the shorts and the, and the skirt over the top.
00:36:19
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And my friends and I all wear them. And it was just like, I remember my parents would always make comments how short they were and, I would never wear that now around my kids because now Ava's going to think that she could wear And I just told her she couldn't wear it to concert, you know? So I feel like maybe it's, for me, it's setting an and example. So they know, you know, like when she went golfing this summer, I was like, Ava, you got to wear a collared shirt. If you're going to this country club, you have to wear khaki shorts.
00:36:47
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Like there's rules. And it's hard today because I feel like it's not like when we were brought up where, you know, I know I wore uniform at school and I love that. so you know, again, maybe I'm just showing my age.
00:37:01
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No, now I just want to see Megan unleashed for like a week. I know. It sounds like she secretly wants to wear all this stuff still. Yeah. I'm just picturing in my head, like, let's hide her children and see what she picks out to wear. So funny. But I do have to say, my i love today. Like, right now I have on leggings under this and sweatpants. Like, that's – when you come home after, like, going somewhere and you have to get all dressed up, I rip that stuff off.
00:37:28
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And I just – but then another part of me is – It does feel good to get dressed up. Like when we're together doing this and also when we go, when, you know, we used to be in person together, it's good. You feel good about yourself to put some makeup on and put yourself together and do your hair and take that mom bun out.
00:37:47
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Yes. So i want to I want to tell you guys a fun term that I learned back, I don't know, six months ago or so when I was working on a YouTube video and it's called Enclothed Cognition. And it was how I'm going to get it wrong, but I like it literally just popped into my head, but it literally has to do with how like the clothes you are wearing, it does change the perception, like people's perceptions of you and then vice versa, how you think people are perceiving you. So like there was some study with a bunch of people and they had to talk to somebody in a white coat and half of the people were told that that person was a doctor.
00:38:23
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And the other half were told that person was wearing like, it was like a white, like artist thing, like, ah you know, the artists wear like a smock and like their assumptions of the person just based on what they told, they were told the white coat was for change. Like they thought the other person was smarter and they were more when was literally the same person wearing the same coat.
00:38:41
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So, I mean, there is that piece of it too. And I do think that, you know, obviously how we perceive somebody, if they look slightly more put together is a little bit different. But i don't you know I don't think that it needs to be. There's part of me that like, I mean, I love that leggings can be pants.
00:38:56
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ah I love it. I love that I can put on leggings and that can be acceptable too. So no, no, it's like I'm always sort of like walking that fine line of I'm like I want to make sure that I you know I took time to like look put together and that like I'm putting a good face forward but like yeah I don't I do like the last thing I want to wear is uncomfortable pants like I just will not so I'm like yeah I'm always like walking that fine line and with my kids too like the church that my kids that we go to is very casual like there is not really a dress code for the kids I mean we try to make them look presentable but like
00:39:29
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They can pretty much wear whatever. And I'm like, this is great because I don't need to fight with my kids to be like, put on this uncomfortable shirt to go to church. But then there's also this piece of me where like, it's church and you should look nice because it's Sunday, you know? And so theyre yeah again, I'm always like walking that very fine line.
00:39:44
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Do you guys look forward to getting, like if you were to go to a something where you had a couple of events, is it fun for you to put together outfits and figure out what you're going to wear or does it stress you out?
00:39:55
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Stress. Stress.
00:39:58
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Stress. I don't know. i don't have a – my wardrobe is so minimal right now because, like I said, I'm, like, in this weird place. So I think it would stress me out just in this thought of, like, I have to go and buy – I probably don't have – it depends on what I need to be wearing to this event. Like, I probably don't have buy it and then I have to go – it would be more of a, like, not wildly exciting, I guess.
00:40:18
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Yeah. And I've tried those, like, I was Rent the Runway and, like, Stitch Fix. I tried them. i don't know. It was just okay. Yeah. Yeah, I tried them too and it was fun for a little while and then I'm like, you don't know what I like and I'm not going to pay you to this anymore.
00:40:34
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yeah so you guys like ordering stuff online and then... um like My big problem now is like you can get everything online, you can get everything that you want and that's so great, but then like it comes and you have to try it on. and then like We used to go to dressing rooms and try stuff on. you know Half the stuff doesn't fit and now I've got to return it.
00:40:50
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It's this big pain in the butt. I don't know. I like to go into a store. I prefer to go into a store. to try stuff on, even if there's less. Yeah, I was going to say that, and they never have your size. I was going to say that, too. i feel like they never have the sizes, and then you end up going online anyways. Anyways.
00:41:07
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Yeah. That's beautiful. I think it's, I don't know. I feel like it's all trial and error. So i I, can't remember if part of, if you were going to ask for tips, but like, I feel like Pinterest nowadays, I don't actually use it for fashion. I tend, I tend to use it for like interiors, but I do think that being able to see someone that looks like you. So ah your approximate body style and your approximate age, and then seeing what they're wearing and how it looks like, I think that's That's certainly, we've all sort of said that we will look to other people and copy that look or get inspiration. So I think, I don't know, I do think as we get older, there's other things happening so that we're not paying as much attention to us.
00:41:45
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And I do think that it feels good to feel good. So if you put on an outfit that you like, you're going to feel better. So I would encourage moms in particular who are putting ourselves last, if you're tempted You know, create a couple Pinterest boards and throw some items in and go on places like Poshmark or you were talking about ThredUp or I don't know, TJ Maxx. Like you don't have to spend a ton of money to get a couple of pieces that might feel a little bit less comfortable from like a…
00:42:17
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not a white t-shirt point of view, like not physically comfortable, but it may stretch your limits. And I don't know. I think that that would be my only comment as far as fashion for moms is that I think it's very easy to forget about ourselves and fashion is part of that.
00:42:30
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So yeah. I used to write a lot of style posts actually on my blog and it would be about something that I really liked most of the time and how I would style it. And if nothing was like super unique or you know, outside the box, it would just be me.
00:42:49
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And people, I think people would find it and read it that we're in that same boat as me, just like we're safe. And now i go online and look for other people who write about, you know, i will Google my height, I will Google my weight, I will Google the season to see if I can find someone who's, you know, put something together. Because for a long time, I didn't get dressed. I was wearing the same, like I have a collection of crew neck sweatshirts and a collection of leggings and we just rotated every day.
00:43:19
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And now I'm, I have to get dressed every day. And I'm the first person when you walk into where I work that you see. So I need to look presentable and I'll look for ideas online on how to take what I already own and make an outfit out of it.
00:43:34
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So, you know, a pair of cropped wide leg corduroy pants that may not be trendy, but I still have them. How the heck do I wear them now? And so Pinterest is great.
00:43:46
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Are you enjoying getting all dressed up, Caitlin, or is it stressful for you? No, I love it because I'm literally wearing clothes that I've had forever. And now I feel like they're getting their time to shine instead of just burning, getting mad that I have so many boxes of them in the basement.
00:44:02
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Yes. Callie, before I share my tips, do you have any tips for Mom fashion. i think my best tip for me, like I always, my rule is like, I always get dressed, you know, like always change out of the pajamas, you know, looking at where I am in life. I'm in, out of the newborn phase, but like I got little kids and it's easy as a mom, like if you're not going anywhere with the kids to not get dressed. So my rule is like, I always get myself dressed,
00:44:26
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If I needed to answer the door, I would not be embarrassed in what I'm wearing. And my best way to do that is I pull out an outfit the day before it could be ah white t shirt and a pair of jeans, but like I have it. And that way there's like, there's no excuse not to it doesn't matter what sort shit storm the morning was like I've got an outfit and I can put it on.
00:44:43
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And that's my sort of best way to make sure that I'm not like just living in the sweatpants that I slept in the night before. Yeah, love that. So if you're listening and you feel like you've lost your sense of style after becoming a parent, here's some quick tips.
00:44:58
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Clean your closet. Get inspired. Invest in quality statement pieces. Try looks. Try them again and again.
00:45:09
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Keep track of the ones you like. I know I kind of put some up front and then I also... try to color coordinate the closet and then another thing too is if you don't want these pieces donate them yeah get rid of them just get them out otherwise it causes too much confusion and then I wanted to end with I'm going to go around really fast and there's three I have more than three but let's just do three Charlotte would you wear barrel jeans yes or I love them okay Callie barrel jeans sure Caitlin
00:45:46
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Yeah, I'll try them. Okay. I'm a no. I don't know why. I just don't think I can pull them off. Charlotte, feathers. Depends on where. Okay. Callie? No, only if it's for a special ah event where feathers are needed.
00:46:01
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Caitlin? Yeah, depends on where. Okay. And Skew? You? Would you do feathers? well I'm just thinking of, I see stuff. Yes.
00:46:12
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Tucker Knut, J.Crew. There's like feathers on the sleeves, feathers. Yes. I wouldt i would do feathers. Okay. Do we want to do skinny jeans or bikini? Which one? Wait, what? Just in life? Cover my body. Skinny jeans. Okay.
00:46:26
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Are there bikini jeans? I don't know. No. i just like i think yeah Callie? Oh, I have a pair of skinny jeans I still wear. Absolutely. Caitlin? Caitlin? That's like all I own, think, except for those corduaries I mentioned. Yeah.
00:46:39
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I still wear the skinny jeans and bikini. Charlotte, would you still rock a bikini? I mean, I would, but I don't feel super comfortable. that The stomach ain't what it used to be. Yep. Callie?
00:46:51
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I mean, I would as long as I'm not with my children that would just immediately rip it off and give me like a nip slip, you know? Fair enough. Caitlin? Yes. Okay. And yes, I would.
00:47:03
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and Moving on to pits and peaks. Callie, do you have a pit or a peak this week? I have a pit. The fruit flies but are absolutely – no, you don't understand. They have been consuming my life for a week.
00:47:17
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Like we kind of have a little – you know how you get some in the fall? And then there was like more and i I just don't know. Like they're I'm losing my mind. And the other day i asked a neighbor. i was like, hey, do you have fruit flies? And she, thank God, made me feel better. She's like, what the heck is going on?
00:47:33
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So there's something our – In the air? everywhere And I have these little traps and they fill up the trap and like six hours. It's disgusting. You have the plug.
00:47:44
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We yes they don't even these ones. They don't want them. They've I think they've selective bread to not go towards them anymore because they don't go in any of the blue plugs. That was my first go to. They're everywhere. And they're in places they shouldn't be like a bathroom. I'm like, what do you there's not even food in here.
00:47:59
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There's no food on my counters. I'm literally like bleaching my counters before bed. And they're just like, OK, we'll eat. air i they they can They can live in the sewage systems. Yes, I'm no flushing um and'm flushing my drains with hot water like twice a day. I'm taking out my – you don't understand. I'm so glad you're bringing this up.
00:48:17
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The drains, we just bought stuff for the sink drain, and we did that, and same with the plugs. It's been in our house too. Oh my God. i have the vinegar. so i do vinegar and you put some dish soap and that's the only thing that has worked on these fruit flies. I literally, I'm not, I'm not lying. I have like 15 of them around my house and I replace them like every six hours. Cause I, I heard they like rebreed really fast. So you have to kill the adults before they,
00:48:40
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I'm losing my mind. Yeah. We get the pantry moths and those are this, I'm as mental with those too. No. I mean, I get fruit flies every fall, but like a normal amount. And then after a week they're gone, you know, it's just like, and you get rid of the bananas and then they're, no, these are, they're a super, I think they, somebody injected them with kryptonite. I don't know.
00:48:59
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Yeah.
00:49:01
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Charlotte, hit her peak. um I think I put something different. I literally just came back with my kid. My kid needs a root canal. Oh, no. Which is like, he made it sound like it would be easy breezy. It's just, guess what's not really covered by insurance? So it's like yeah a thousand bucks that we would rather not spend.
00:49:17
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She knocked her front teeth when she was, don't know, four. And you could see that she had knocked them out of place. And the tooth wasn't dead. Like they could see the root, but he was like, I think the nerve, he described it very clearly. And then what he did at the appointment is he took like a super cold thing and he was like, I'm goingnna touch your teeth. So raise your hand when you can feel it. So I'm already like giving me the willies.
00:49:42
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He touched the first tooth, touched the second tooth, race and then he got around and he touched that tooth we were worried about. And she just was like, du du to do so he was like, yeah, this nerve is dead.
00:49:53
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So that's a bummer. Caitlin, pit or peak? It's like a mix. The peak is that i had a really fun weekend in Boston at the Tate McCray concert.
00:50:05
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The pit was, she is, we're talking about scandalous. She is scandalous. I was aware of this. I just didn't know how racy the show would be.
00:50:16
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And my daughters watched it. And obviously, um like we had a conversation about the pole that she danced on on the ride home and- my oldest was like, yeah, I bet you could like learn that on YouTube. I was like, do not look that up.
00:50:31
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And, um, you know, I call it a pit because I'm like, did i i don't know. Did Brittany Spears was like, we all saw Brittany Spears do stuff like that, but this was live and in person and there were guys on the stage.
00:50:45
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So did i open some door that I shouldn't have and like let them peek inside? I'm just, and That was going to be my mom fail, but I feel like it's a pit because we're still talking about it it's almost been a week.
00:50:58
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I mean, yeah. I feel like they're like Sabrina Carpenter. They're all, that's just, yeah. I know. Mine is a pit because the new basketball I rushed to buy at the store Nico used at the two tryouts and then he came home all upset.
00:51:16
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One of the kids there thought it was his and took it.
00:51:23
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I was going to put his name on it, and I should have. Should have, should have, should have, should have. But I get yelled at sometimes by my kids. They're like, oh, you ruined it now that you put my name on it. Like with the the Stanley cops underneath, I'll put their initials.
00:51:38
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I don't know. I should have done it. Now I'm always going to do it again. And yeah, so he was like in tears. And i was like, Nico, we'll just get another ball. It's fine. I'll go get another one. Or show who he And put your name on it.
00:51:50
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Yeah, next time. And I'll just say, hey, you know – I mean, he should go and do it. but Or I said today, too, at school. I said, if you see him, just be like, hey, I took think you took your ball. And he's like, already asked him. And he said what it wasn't it was his.
00:52:04
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but I hate that. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, just for moms here, Callie, Haylin, Charlotte, and Megan, thanks for joining us. Leave us a five-star review. We like those. And yeah, stay tuned for the next episode.
00:52:20
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Bye for now. Bye for now. Bye.