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Season 5- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Round 3)
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It's another Fantasy Corner from the gents of TFRY! On this FC, we get a recap of the Champi-Yanks League for both division 1 and division 2, a look at who is stuck on the old goose egg and who has remained unscathed too. A bit more of chatter about rankings and of course do the Start or Sit thing we like. Grab your notepads and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Fantasy Rugby Challenges
00:00:02
Speaker
It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody handled that. Collusion. Collusion. Hey, everybody.
Fantasy Rugby Enthusiasm and Challenges
00:00:28
Speaker
Welcome back. It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:32
Speaker
I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get to it. It's fantasy corner time. Certainly is. Yeah. Oh, man. I I'm I'm excited about fancy. Boy, I can tell.
00:00:44
Speaker
For a guy who's an 0 and 4 collectively. Yeah. 0 and 6 if you count Wankball. But I am excited about this. Yeah, it's still fun. I mean, it's still early. So definitely. Yeah. Plenty of time to rally. Yeah. Plenty of time to rally. I just got to make it into the fourth spot. I don't have to be top. I just got to make it to the fourth spot. Avoid the SACO. Yes, absolutely. Let's look at
00:01:08
Speaker
the match-ups from this past weekend, some tight ones.
Close Fantasy League Matchups
00:01:12
Speaker
The tightest one I've ever seen in my life, phrasing. Ben barely edges out, go this, by 0.4. Like,
00:01:23
Speaker
I don't know if it gets any tighter. I'm sure there's somebody that's got like point one, but Dan, that's the closest I've seen for a long time. And it shouldn't have been that close except that Dan bigger dropped like, and we didn't get the notification on it. And so he ended up staying in my starting lineup. Otherwise I would have had, um,
00:01:42
Speaker
Uh, what's his name Atkinson from, from wasps, which would have made it much wider of a margin. So, um, yeah, like, yeah, that was tight, but fuck. Yeah. Could have made it easier on yourself and your heart. Could have. Yeah. If I, if I had a little bit more information.
00:02:00
Speaker
I know. I'm the boss. Need the info. Need the info, man. There was a another skinny one between myself and George that was about a three point margin. That was that was tight as well. And going into it, I thought, yeah, I think I had the lead before the final count. And then it's what it rolled over. I was like, son of a and there were some score changes as well. So I fucked on the score adjustment. Once that happened, I was like, oh, damn it.
00:02:28
Speaker
And really good scores from both of us as well. You know, I had, I had Lawrence, he had Ali Woodburn. You know, we both are, both our flyhaps performed fairly well. So that's one of those fun ones where it's just like, yep, best person one. That's, that's just how it is.
Overview of Recent Matches and Standings
00:02:42
Speaker
The more lopsided of, of the matchup was Mark and Justin. Mark was able to take care of Justin by about 30, which is pretty large considering this weekend. That was, that was a fairly large margin. And then, yeah. And then, uh, and Carrick beat Duncan by 10.
00:03:02
Speaker
but still a fairly close game, especially right down to that final count. But it is what it is. So that is the tautness of the Champions League right there at its finest at that. Division two, let's see. Hold on one second, I got to pull up. So let me make sure I know what I'm doing here, because I know I got it.
00:03:30
Speaker
While you're pulling that up, I'll mention that Duncan went into that matchup without a front row starting and that that may have been the difference. Yeah, everyone. Yeah, he said it was strategic and so I did it on purpose. So OK, and sometimes it comes back to to get you.
00:03:44
Speaker
So let's see, we got Larry and Alex. Larry was able to be Alex. Alex still puts up another decent showing though. So I'll give him that. Terry wins again. Terry wins again. Who's he, who's he beat? Who did he beat there? Hold on. I gotta, I gotta start writing the names down of the team so I can not screw this up.
00:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, you know, who's who? Yeah, because they don't necessarily show up on the on the on the board. And that's that makes my life just a little bit harder. Right. Let me look. I think that whose times it doesn't do we
League Standings and Upcoming Matches
00:04:19
Speaker
know? Try remember. But I don't know. Yep. So but Homebrew, I believe is I think it's Luke.
00:04:27
Speaker
And then, um, and then we know sweet spaghetti is, um, Franco Franco Franco won this weekend as well. And then, and then Sophia bounced backs, bounced back big time with a big one 40 on her, on her, on her roster. That's that was high score in the league. It might've been high score across both leagues. No, I think about it. Cause I don't think I had anything close to that. I had one 30 ish 130. So you guys were one 30 in the one 37th.
00:04:52
Speaker
Yeah. And I think we were the highest matchup of the whole thing. Yeah, you were. So, yep. High score across both leagues. Well done, Sofia. So, and then let's look at this week's match-ups for D1. I have Duncan. See if we can get myself off the Schneider, does it wear? Yep.
00:05:12
Speaker
Cobus and Justin about the Saphas, Mark and Ben were going at it. And then, uh, Carrick and George did today. What's the, what's the league table looks like? League tables are.
00:05:26
Speaker
Carrick is 2-0 and Mark is 2-0. Everybody else has at least one loss myself and Gove is they're both sitting at 0-2. So all the play fours still though, all the play fours still though and then the division. But you still have a higher score than a higher points count than you're the ones here.
00:05:47
Speaker
Shit, you're third in the league. Yeah. And that's why I'm not too worried about it, because if I can keep scoring, the wins will come. Yeah. Just kind of be patient with it and not panic. Right. It's really easy to panic at this point. Exactly. Because you're third, I'm fourth. You're 0 and 2, I'm 1 and 1. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? There are three people that are undefeated in Division 2. Franco, Terry, and Larry.
00:06:13
Speaker
All two are now also means, you know, three, two and oh, two teams, which is not awesome for them, but we forgive Alex a little bit. He like, like we said last week, no, no forgiveness. Well, there's a whole lot of forgiveness to be given, but yeah. So there is that as well. Now it is the time of the start set.
Upcoming Rugby Matches and Player Picks
00:06:41
Speaker
And who goes first?
00:06:42
Speaker
Um, do you have the first still verse? Nope. I'm looking at the wrong week. Bath wasps. That's you. Bath wasps. Yes it is. What about that? Friday night.
00:06:54
Speaker
All right. Um, Friday night game bath and wasps. So for bath, uh, Joe Coco, like we talked about him on the previous pod, uh, seems to be back. Obies are doing well against wasps as well so far. So I give it a thumbs up. Uh, so, uh, if he's in definitely mirror is an auto start for me right now, but Coco was kind of on the line because we weren't sure if you'd be ever get back to form. He seems, it seems he looks good. And that was against a decent sale defense. So getting credit.
00:07:24
Speaker
Yep. And then also Ben Spencer has scored well last two weeks. I know he was hurt last in the middle of last week's match. So we'll see if he's healthy. If he's healthy, he's playable. And I would definitely play him right now. I'm OK with that. On the other side of the coin.
00:07:41
Speaker
Again, another guy that might may or may not be healthy, depending on what comes out of it. Jaco could see hasn't scored well. Number eight actually haven't done that well against wass as well. So there's there's that little kind of tiny thing to do. I know Bradbury did OK, but previous week, I don't think they did that well. Wasn't could could see a hurt. Yeah, I think he's hurt. So but that shirt has not been good for them either. So, you know, maybe if Bayless gets his hands on it, it'll change. But I find out we'll see what Van Grand does either way. Was.
00:08:11
Speaker
Tom Willis is back, bummin' all. Both cheeks. Yeah, if he does anything close to what he did last week, I'd give him a huge thumbs up. So go give that a go. I hope about that phrasing there. Yeah, big time. Yeah, dude was just laying on the ground with his butt on the ground. I was like, yeah, that's uncomfortable.
00:08:33
Speaker
Uh, Charlie Atkinson clearly has just put his hand up for that 10 shirt and it's showing in FRD as well, which is great for any way that picked him up as a late fly half or somebody that picked him up his cover. Yeah. He's going to make his life real easy on owners for sure. Yeah. Right. Um, on the other side of the coin, Sam spank usually one bad midfielder against bath. And I am definitely going to say it's him because he not scored well. Yeah, that's not great. So I'm going to go ahead and say sit, sit Mr. Spink.
00:09:02
Speaker
All right, off to Ashton Gate for Bristol versus the London Irish. Yeah, as we talked about on the rugby pod. Irish, I don't even know what to make of them at the moment. But they're still scoring well, so you kind of just have to keep going with that.
00:09:24
Speaker
On the other side, Bristol are winning, but they're not really scoring well, even against some traditionally open fantasy defenses. So they're playing against some loose teams, but they're not taking advantage. And then again, for the exiles, they're led by their back line and their forwards are meh, really. So for the Bears, their front row, because yes, their front row is excellent.
00:09:50
Speaker
Bradbury, you know, until he goes a match without scoring, you kind of have to keep him in. Harry Randall, whoever is at 10, should score well. Piers O'Connor and Chuck Pyotow are the guys who are scoring. Everyone else, like, I mean, I'm starting VUI because I'm expecting him to come good. I don't know when that's going to happen. I hope it's soon. He didn't score that badly this past weekend, did he? Yeah, I thought he had like four or something like that. I thought he got a little bit better than that, but... Yeah, six. Six point six. Okay. Not bad for a lock. Right.
00:10:18
Speaker
not bad for that being but i'm still i'm still waiting for those 10 point matches where he gets a little he all he needs is to get a little bit of loose and and hit an offload maybe a try assist yes please waiting for
00:10:31
Speaker
Yeah, I don't really like their flankers. I mean, I like them as rugby players, but not so much as fans. No, yeah, neither one of them has performed well. I would agree with that. For the Exiles, also the front row. Yes, please. Hopefully, they're getting back to health because it's like they're still kind of playing their second or third lines. So hopefully, that starts coming. I mean, obviously, Creepy's not going to be around for a while, but they still have some good talent there otherwise, especially around those props.
00:10:59
Speaker
Ben White yes please and thank you. The 10 has been scoring poorly and I expect that to continue against Bristol and then the rest of the back line should as it does rake so go ahead with that.
00:11:11
Speaker
Yeah, vote me some some Rona, some Curtis Rona. Rona has been a huge Ollie Hassell Collins is just a try squaring machine. So and then whoever that third, you know, the, you know, Arendelle, obviously, and then who knows that, you know, you still play their their their third back three. Yeah. And I hope for the best. Right. Absolutely. I agree. All right. To the Derby match of the weekend, Northampton and Lester.
00:11:39
Speaker
So for Northampton Saints front row haven't been amazing, but I also believe that Lester have given up a few points to front rows these days, so I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give them a thumbs up right now, especially if Sam Medivac is on his game.
00:11:53
Speaker
Uh, always sleep home has been awesome. Very, very consistent once again. And that back three is thriving again, especially with Furbank back there. He seems to have come good. So I'm going to give them a thumbs up. So, and it's not slate since Collins and Freeman, that's still fine. Honestly, go ahead.
00:12:11
Speaker
The 13th shirt has struggled against Western and that's Matt Proctor this week. So I'm going to go ahead and give him a thumbs down. He's not a terrible player and he has scored well once the two matches he's played. But he's not that consistent in recent history. So that's my it still could be Dingwall, though.
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah, could be Dings and Hutch, who knows? Right. They have so many options in that team. If it's Dings and Hutch, that's actually an interesting decision at that point. So we'll see. For Lester, Freddie Airlines or whoever's at the fullback seem to do well against Northampton thus far. So that's a thumbs up. George Martin has a lock. I mentioned him in my column last week. That's a thumbs up for me right now. He's been a tackling machine and that's enough
00:12:55
Speaker
production from a lock for me. So it's usually six or seven points. And I think you got like eight, I think you got 10 the other week. Yeah, give it a give that a thumbs up big time. Well done, Mr. Martin. The other 13 in this game, Matt Scott has just been played bad.
00:13:10
Speaker
If it's him, it's gotta be a no-go, like playing simple. Like we saw Guy Porter get loose last week. Like a lot of other people have done, have scored, found ways to score well. He does not have a way to score well right now. So I'm giving him a thumbs down, unfortunately.
00:13:28
Speaker
off to stone X for an excellent matchup of
Team Strategies and Player Performance Advice
00:13:32
Speaker
top teams that are just going to go punch for punch series against Gloucester for the series, the front row is a full go.
00:13:41
Speaker
Mauro, obviously, Theo is showing just ridiculous ability. Yes. Especially at the lock position. Right. He's going to. Yeah, he's going to score some points. He's a loose forward though. Right. Oh, he's a loose forward. OK. Yeah. Even if he plays locks. Yeah, he still had a good like loose forward score from from lock. So go for it anyway.
00:14:03
Speaker
Earl and Billy V, or you have to start them. Farrell, Tompkins, Maylands, and then Daley or Good, or if Daley's at one wing and Good's at fullback, Daley and Good.
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, right. To me, Lazovsky right now, especially while Faz is at 10, is kind of a bubble option because he's not getting those kicking points. So kind of stay away from that. And then whoever's at six, yeah. And then obviously just fucking stay away from the nine. Yes, please. On the other side, free luster, the front row.
00:14:35
Speaker
Freddie Clark is a machine in a machine in a way that earns fantasy points, so full go there. Harris and LRZ. Chapman, Atkinson and Thorley, they're good options for the bubble if you don't have anyone else.
00:14:53
Speaker
to go ahead and play them. Chapman, I guess, think more than others because the Sarries are pretty bad against Nines. But, you know, if you're throwing Adkins in a thoroughly out there, expect, you know, if you get more than five points, yay, it's a bonus. And, you know, it's just because of the matchup. Yeah, no. Yeah, probably startable, but you might not like nine times out of 10, you're going to be like, yes, start those guys if you got them on your team. In this case,
00:15:18
Speaker
Sorry, sorry. That would be a good defense. So, you know, I'm expecting Harris to to get to get loose. And all it takes is is one little gap. And right. Lewis is is toast. So, yep. I mean, your toast. He's burning it. All right.
00:15:38
Speaker
Worcester and Newcastle. Hopefully. Yeah, I know. Fingers crossed that both the matches I've talked about with between Worcester and Moss. For Worcester, Fergus Lee Warner played very well the last couple of games. He scored well. Sixes do well against Newcastle thus far this year. I know it's an only two. It's a small sample, but so far it's a thumbs up for me. So give him a go. Alex Hurl is another name that we didn't talk about a ton, but it's actually performed very well. Has found the trial line.
00:16:06
Speaker
And I don't think you'll need to find the trial in order to be productive. So that's a kind of that weird outside option that nobody thought about, but also is going to be very valuable as like that third OB in your team. So give that a shot. Uh, number eight shirt for me, no matter who has it right now, no go for me. Cause none of them have performed well for Worcester so far. And until they find one that can do that, then I'm going to stay away for Newcastle and the Mateo Carreras.
00:16:33
Speaker
wow what a balance this guy could bring if if it's him and Radwan like that's going to be fantastic to watch and it's going to be fantastic for those that have him in fantasy because i think they're going to be fun especially in this matchup but i think they're going to both be worthy of raw strength assuming they play more often than not oh yeah um i know Keros has been spending time with the pumas but still
00:16:51
Speaker
Newcastle front row, we know it's good. And even if Lemire is not in at seven, which you expect him eventually to go back to being the backup hooker, but if he, but either way, it's still playable. McGuigan's been awesome going on. So yeah, keep going, you know, and anything after that's a bonus, but still it's a thumbs up play for me.
00:17:09
Speaker
uh alex tate is the ob the outside ob you don't want the outside the box and i know some people might get a little desperate because sometimes you have fly halves playing fullback and midfielders playing either fullback or or wing and you're like shit i need an ob that's starting and yeah that's not the one you want though that's in fullback so that have done well against wister so far that's not the one you want though that i can tell you i know it's tempting but that's not the one no i would i don't i still don't understand why they play him over penny but that's
00:17:39
Speaker
That's just me. Yeah, he's also a midfielder. Well, yeah, he's listed as a midfielder, but he's he's scored a lot of points at fullback when when he gets loose. So right. All right. Off to Sandy Park. This is a matchup of, you know, we've talked about. Exeter, you know, I talked about it earlier about how many holes they have, especially in defense, and they're playing a team that. Yeah, they can take advantage. So from them for for Exeter's, though,
00:18:10
Speaker
Capstick, yes. If he's playing, you play him. Joe Simmons, especially at 15, actually. He's getting a lot more running meters from 15, which is fun. And Ollie Woodburn. That's about it. Royer Lachlan is a possible option if Baxter finally drops Ian Whitten. Again, good attacking center. You need that.
00:18:33
Speaker
I know Baxter doesn't quite like it for some reason. But yeah, no kidding. On the other side, for the Harlequins, I'm not a big fan of their front row.
00:18:43
Speaker
Unless Lo is playing, in which case that might help things, because BB-8 can get over that line. The loose forwards, yes, yes, yes, please. Wev, Kenningham, Dombrandt, I mean, what more can you say? And if Levis, when he comes back, that's going to just add to that. And then Danny Kerr, I think we're going to see Marcus Smith, because now he's off rest.
00:19:09
Speaker
And then the rest of the back line, there's just so much hole so many holes in that exit defense like especially if like Northmore is playing 13. Route them so there's going to be, there's going to be space to run. Yeah, for the for Quinn so the points will follow.
00:19:25
Speaker
One guy I do want to point out, I meant to point out in the last part, but Ernie Herbst is not the signing that everybody was like jumping up and down in the prem, but he is playing like a loose forward at lock. As much as you and I were gushing about like Josh Larson for the free jacks this past season, being a tackling machine at lock. He's been that far, he has been that thus far for Quinn's in both games.
00:19:48
Speaker
Um, quietly having already having a very good start to his, to his year. I just wanted to point him out and also putting up okay numbers as a lock. So yeah, you know, there's that, there's that out there for you of the weeks of the weeks. Um, so my guy has started off the year hot, even when he's come off the bench, he's been lights out and he's got.
00:20:09
Speaker
fairly favorable match up looking in front in terms of the team he's playing is going to play some open rugby and I totally expect him to match it. And the points will certainly accumulate from that. So my start of the week for round three of the prem is
00:20:26
Speaker
exiles in England, full back, Henry, Henry, around, oh, Jesus, got it out there. Yeah, you'll get it.
Player Recommendations for the Week
00:20:34
Speaker
I'm gonna boomerang back to my last conversation piece, where, yeah, the harlequins are just going to have all sorts of space. And I'm so my thinking is that they're going to start
00:20:50
Speaker
Um, Lina Murley and green, I'm assuming line is healthy and that that's just, uh, that he was just getting a rest day last week. Um, and bump March hand into 13. Yeah. Or Nick David would be doing anyway. Um, my, my start of the week is whoever is at 13 and I'm leaning towards March. Yeah. Cause I think that's who it's going to be.
00:21:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's that'll be good. That will be good. Yeah, no, I don't see any proper news on why not. So right. He just could have been given a day off. Yeah, which I mean, you know, like.
00:21:27
Speaker
Quins can, whoever is getting the day off at Quins, they're gonna be extremely talented from that back through. So. Yeah, I know it. I know it, I know it. Yeah, no idea. Okay. Sit of the week and I'm gonna make you mad.
00:21:42
Speaker
So I like what I saw this guy last year, not started the year well. And as far as open sides go, he's just not getting it done in terms of your fantasy team. Maybe he's doing it on the field for what they're asking him to do, but right now it's not translating to points. And it's not exactly an easy matchup across the street with his arch rivals walking into the building. So my say of the week for round three of the prem is Saint Open Side, Aaron Hinkley.
00:22:11
Speaker
No, although this may be Ludlum. So we'll see. Yeah. If it's Ludlum, exactly. Like it's a totally different ball game. Right. Yeah. Hinckley's gotten like he's he's not looking like he looked last year, which is disappointing. He hasn't even accumulated one bloody point in either match. Yeah, it's it's and he's not showing up on the on on the screen either. Like, no, we might talk about him being out there, but I don't see him. No, it's unfortunate because the last two matches he played last year, he were just like he was everywhere. He was outstanding.
00:22:42
Speaker
My Sit of the Week is also someone who has been scoring poorly lately. It doesn't help that he's going up against a fairly solid team again this week, but the rest of his team is scoring well, especially the rest of his back line is scoring excellently. It's not translating into points for the Exiles 10. So my Sit of the Week is the Exiles 10. I don't think you're going to argue that too much. Voldemort. All right.
00:23:11
Speaker
Picking of them. No change because I got one right different than you picked and you got the other one. So we're back to square one. The lead for both of us. Still number one, two weeks in. I'm still number one. All right. OK, this is going to be interesting. Bath and loss. Both of them. Yeah, both of them are 0 and 2. Right. But Bath are at home.
00:23:40
Speaker
wasps that look shaky. Bath have put up points like sneakily. So, you know, they put up 20 against sale and they, where were they? And they put up 29 against Bristol. So there's, they're scoring points. Um, you know, who's not scoring points? Wasps. Wasps outside of the, you know, they've played 40 minutes of, of good rugby in, in two weeks and that's not going to be enough. No, no, maybe they can find, if they can find it, but no. Uh, Bristol, more than Irish. I'm taking Bristol at home. Me too.
00:24:10
Speaker
Very intriguing. North Hampton and Lester. I look at the 10 matchup and that's enough for me. I know. And that's that's probably bigger plays in this. And that's because he would have last week if he wasn't sick. Right. So that being probably the marginal difference. Not that I won't be surprised that the Tigers get done. But yeah, I'm not really I'm not sold on the Tigers, especially without without a real, you know, not with Coppert. No, no, very different.
00:24:40
Speaker
Game manager, not a game breaker. Yeah. And they they don't have, you know, outside of him, their backs are not. I mean, it's good that they'll have Freddie Stewart back. That might help change some things. But yeah. Yeah. Not really seeing it there. We'll see. Series and Gloucester back home areas, because they're at home. Yeah. Yeah. And they did not win this fixture last year. And trust me, they haven't forgot that. So they're going to take this Worcester and Newcastle.
00:25:08
Speaker
Newcastle. Assuming this king goes off. Exeter and Quinn's. I am going to take the Harlequin's. Yeah. All right. So no change again this week. No, there won't be anything special this week, but that's all right. Cool.
00:25:23
Speaker
We'll get there eventually. Things start to shake out when we start to do Champions Cup and the ones that have the competition, when we have more competitions involved, that's when things start to get really wonky. And then, you know, we'll have we'll have weeks like last week where we do make different picks and they won't shake out, even though one loses one lens. And that's really how it goes. This weekend seems pretty straightforward, although, yeah, like you said, Lester, maybe Irish have a chance, but
00:25:51
Speaker
And wasps have a chance, those three, but I'm not. And Gloucester, too, I guess. Yeah, Gloucester, definitely. I would. I'm not counting them out. But like, yeah, I don't see Worcester one. I don't see Worcester winning even against Newcastle and. Yeah. Exeter. Quinn's are too good. And Exeter are just still stuck in the like 2015, 2016, 2017. That's five years ago. Pick it up. What do you figure out? Yeah.
00:26:21
Speaker
Catch. All right.
Closing Remarks and Audience Engagement
00:26:22
Speaker
That is everything for the fantasy pod. We will be obviously returning to this, this whole thing next week when we're on the eve of GTFO and visiting everybody overseas. Yeah.
00:26:37
Speaker
fantasy rugby podcast at gmail.com. Ask T fry on Fridays. Obviously we'll, we'll get back to that. Um, yeah. And always feel free to just shoot us questions if you want us to talk about something on the pod too. Like, yeah, that's, that's, that's always open, open pretty for that. Uh, but until then, uh, we appreciate you all for hanging out with us, you know, being our patrons and just, you know,
00:27:01
Speaker
listening to us babble for about rugby for 30 minutes to an hour. I hope it makes your fantasy team better. And hopefully, you know, maybe a little bit of rugby knowledge from some, some Americans, maybe, maybe, but until then, um, we'll catch you all next week and, uh, we appreciate y'all and have a good one later.