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NRL Supercoach Round 2 - 🎧 News Around the Grounds + SuperCoach Trade Chaos (Ryan x Chris)
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This week on Tackles & Tinnies, Ryan and Chris rip through the biggest news around the grounds before diving headfirst into the weekly SuperCoach addiction spiral.
We get into the noise around the Brisbane Broncos — what the Payne Haas situation means for the club, whether the pressure is starting to show, and how much of Brisbane’s issues are actually footy… versus everything happening around them.
Then we talk the build-up to Rabbitohs vs Roosters, the hype around Alex Johnston’s record chase, and whether fans storming the field would be an all-time moment… or an all-time disaster.
Then it flips into full SuperCoach mode.
Ryan and Chris break down the key players to:
- trade
- buy
- hold
- watch
There’s talk around blokes like Jacob Laban, Jonah Pezzet, and Daniel Atkinson, plus the bigger question every coach is asking right now: when do you stay patient… and when do you feed the addiction and make the move?
Ryan’s dangerously close to a full rage trade + boost week, and Chris is doing his best to figure out whether it’s strategy… or pure emotional damage.
Cap or Fact: most SuperCoach coaches ruin their season in the first month by chasing points and trading angry.
Drop your trade plans in the comments — who’s a buy, who’s a sell, and is Ryan completely cooked for wanting to boost already?
Chapters:
00:00 Brisbane Broncos Turmoil
02:41 Alex Johnson Field Storming
05:26 Super Coach Strategies and Rankings
08:40 Player Performance Analysis
11:14 Cheapie Insights and Recommendations
14:00 Trade Decisions and Team Management
17:06 Upcoming Matches and Predictions
19:40 Final Thoughts on Player Selection
31:26 Navigating Player Trades and Injuries
34:06 Chasing Break Evens: The Case of Brayden Trindle
40:15 Evaluating Jackson Purdue and Other Players
46:57 Fullback Performance and Future Prospects
53:40 Strategising Captaincy Choices for Upcoming Matches
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Transcript
00:00:00
Speaker
Fresh cup of tea. For my viewers out there, freaking the sheets. Excel, Microsoft, you know, pun intended. So welcome back, Tackles and Tinnies listeners. We're doing fantasy files. Chris is going to join me shortly, but I'd like to just talk about some of the news going around the grounds. And I think probably one of the biggest news around the grounds is some rumblings around the pain hearse. Redfern, Brisbane Broncos situation. So Gordon Tallis was quoted on NRL 360 about what's happening with the vibe at the Brisbane Broncos. Again, they've lost two games in a row with the World Club Challenge and now have lost a game against the Round 1 opponent of the Penrith Panthers and they look absolutely woeful.
00:00:48
Speaker
Gordon Tallis was quoted on Fox League. Is there rest around the Brisbane Broncos and the Payne Haas departure? And he quoted saying, absolutely. Now, my opinion on this, Payne Haas played 80 minutes on the weekend. end Personally, I don't think, at least visually from our point of view, I don't think there's too much concern in regards to how Payne Haas is playing on the field. But I guess there might be some resentment. There's potentially some, yeah, probably resentment's the best word I could think of at the moment in regards to why Payne Haas and Madge McGuire might have a bit of a tiff at the moment or how it could impact the culture of the club.
00:01:33
Speaker
He's never, ever not going to put 100% And I think that's really, really important. Again, he played 80 minutes on the weekend, full contingent of players, getting absolutely blown out by the Penrith Panthers' chokehold defense. I just don't like how Payne Haas has been painted here. Again, if he wants to go to a new club and do his own thing, sure, why not? You're a free agent at the end of that year.
00:01:57
Speaker
He's really upped and he's gone through the shitter in regards to getting a wooden spoon and then taking that wooden spoon team with the guys like Paddy Carrigan, etc. Gone to glory last year.
00:02:09
Speaker
Once he got him to glory, I think, yeah, you're on your own then. After that, if you want to go be a free agent, and go test your value or go play in Sydney. Now I'm hearing and reading that Payne Haas, one of the main reasons, not only it's at Wayne Bennett and going playing with guys like Fafida and Terrell, it's actually due to his um Muslim heritage, or not heritage, Muslim faith, sorry. And again, there's a big culture of the Muslim...
00:02:33
Speaker
contingent in South Sydney. again if he's Again, he's recently changed his name to Hakeem, the dream. past Yeah, pun intended there. But yeah, he's changed name to Hakeem in, again, goodwill to the Muslim religion.
00:02:48
Speaker
That's another possible thing in regards to one of the reasons why he left. But I think it's a bit of a stitch up when Gordon Tallis is saying that there's a bit uneasiness or there's a bit of bad faith or bad will in regards to him leaving the end of the year. End of the day, you've got to make it work.
00:03:06
Speaker
I mean, why not? so that's one That's my thoughts on the Payne Haas perspective. And again, I'll ask Chris when he jumps on. But is this just murmurs and rumors because the Penrith Panthers absolutely decimated the Brisbane Broncos 26 and they looked pretty piss poor against the World Club Challenge against Hull?
00:03:26
Speaker
I don't know. Guys, i want to hear from you. Is the Payne Haas situation bit of a Daily Cherry Evans hangover-esque similar? Or do you think it's just a bit of a cop-out because the Brisbane Broncos have been pretty piss poor the past couple of games? want hear from you guys in the comments.
00:03:42
Speaker
And one of the other big storylines before Chris jumps on is in regarding to the ah Alex Johnson storming the field situation. Now, I'm a small podcaster. I've got a very small fan base, and I appreciate all you guys who listen to me and give me likes and comment on the feed.
00:03:59
Speaker
But my perspective, and again, it's probably not going to go anywhere important, but storming the field, guys. If you're going to Sydney, especially Roosters versus Rabideaus this weekend,
00:04:10
Speaker
Get the ball out to bloody AJ. Troll Mitt and Cody Walker and Dave Fafita. Feed him the ball all day. Like Bam Adebayo today for the Miami Heat. Today's the 11th of March. So in the US, it's the 10th. Bam Adebayo just got 83 career points in one single game.
00:04:30
Speaker
So he's got the second most all time. And everyone's just yelling MVP. Everyone's yahoo and cheering. If the AFL can get Buddy Franklin, I'm pretty sure his name was, to everyone can storm the field and everyone's yee-haw-ring chirping him.
00:04:46
Speaker
If you're in Sydney for this monumental clash between the Rabideaus and the Roosters, you better be storming the field. It's something that is going to be historic. It only happens once in a blue moon for any type of player, especially a guy who's hopefully going to notch up another 10 to 20 tries this year.
00:05:07
Speaker
Give the man his roses. We always like giving roses here on Tackles and Tinnies, but... If AJ, especially against a rival club, especially another rival Sydney club in the Roosters, how good would that be? I really hope that this can actually happen. So what are your guys' thoughts on the whole Alex Johnson storming the field? Do you think the NRL is over-exaggerating regards to stampedes, ah delay of game, player welfare?
00:05:36
Speaker
Or do you think they just don't want to ah have a bad look? Or... Do you think that the NRL can really, or the grounds can really find every single one of those people who jump on the field?
00:05:49
Speaker
I'll tell you what, it's going to interesting because if three or five or 10 or 20 people jump on the field and no one no one rallies around them, that's going be so awkward too.
00:06:01
Speaker
It's going to interesting with security as well, how they're going to react. Are they being like told explicitly, if someone jumps on, you're just going to left-right goodnight, or you're to that big shoulder charge?
00:06:11
Speaker
Are the players, as soon as AJ scores, if he does score the double, will they instantly go to the locker room, or are they stay on the field with him for player safety? What's going to happen in regards to the evacuation process of the field? are they just going to jump back over the barrier?
00:06:29
Speaker
like it's going to be a but bit of a logistical nightmare. And I'm not sure what game it's on. Quickly get this up, guys. But if it's a Channel 9 game, that's going to be a really big pain in the ass for the broadcasting. Because when you think about it, it's going to be like their postgame and then everything after the postgame is going to be in relation to, yeah, the next TV show. could be a TV series or whatnot.
00:06:56
Speaker
But yeah, 7pm Friday. Chris, hey mate, how you going? Knee howdy, Ryan. Yeah, mate, I'm just talking about the AJ, not AJ Brimson, Alex Johnson ah storming the field potentially this week on Friday.
00:07:12
Speaker
And it's going to be a monumental game, Rabbitohs versus Roosters. What's your perspective, Chris? oh I think, again, I said I'm a small podcast. I didn't care. Flag me, block me. But I reckon everyone, if you're in Sydney, get on the field.
00:07:26
Speaker
It's going to be sick. What are your thoughts? 100%. You know, I'm originally from Sydney. know, I don't remember when... you know, buddy, you know, was a SCG, you know, and he scored, you know, was it a thousand or he broke the record, know, everybody streamed on, you know, what did AJ say? You can't arrest everybody, you know, if everybody jumps on, like you're going jump on, you know? Yeah, for sure. I'm all for it. Yeah.
00:07:49
Speaker
Well, said, I, It'll be interesting like if 50 people jump on and no one else jumps on. It's enough where you could probably get popped, but it's a lot where there's not going to enough security for a one-on-one. It's going to be pretty funny on Channel 9 how it's all going to work out. I'm just saying, guys, get on the field. Get around them. It's going to be so funny. I kind of hope both happens. I hope there's a big delay. like Let's say it's like... You send out your best 20.
00:08:16
Speaker
20 boys, your super coach team, they can run out, try to do the bit of a weeb, cheering, and then a minute later, everyone comes on the field. I don't know. It'd be funny to watch. And again, i was just talking about the um delay of broadcasting because it's on Channel 9 and they're going to have some... They'll have a little bit of post-game, but normally just jump straight into the next TV show. So obviously all scheduling is going to be...
00:08:37
Speaker
out of whack it's even funnier for channel nine so um and i was talking about chris before before he jumped on ah the pain house situation i was looking at the nrl 360 this morning on my way to work and gordon tallis was pretty much essentially quoted saying Absolutely. And the absolutely was in reference to is there turmoil behind the scenes with the Brisbane Broncos? And you could probably make rembolence to their World Club Challenge piss-poor effort. You can make comparisons to last week against the Penrith Panthers, 26-0.
00:09:12
Speaker
I think it's a bit of a cop-out using the Payne Haas situation. i think it's very similar to Daily Cherry Evans. like If you're a free agent, you've done your due diligence, you've been a one-club person for so long, you brought glory, particularly in Payne Haas' situation, you brought him championship all the way from the wooden spoon. If you're a free agent, you should not be yeah complaining. And if people are, again, potentially saying, Madge McGuire or or the other senior members of the squad are bag-mouthing pain or saying there's bad chemistry because he's leaving that's a load of baloney in my eyes yeah look um look any look they look nl360 look they get off on controversy you know what's new you know you know brisbane in disarray lucky galvin you know it's what gets the people going it's provocative it's like i'm not surprised at all and so yeah we'll leave it at that yeah that's my two cents yeah
00:10:08
Speaker
Well, Chris, we're here for Supercoach and we want to give the people what they want. And I am going to... It's a caveat apology. It's a caveat apology. Nico Hines, captaincy for Chris, popped off.
00:10:24
Speaker
On the caveat of Braden bloody Trindle doing everything and Trindle giving him the ball off each one of those tries. Without Trindle, Nico Hines is washed.
00:10:35
Speaker
Still my nemesis. Tempted to get him in this week, but not really. I've got to give the roses to you because I said I was going to slander you, but congratulations, Chris. I'm eating my own words.
00:10:46
Speaker
Oh, look, no, I was very pleased that, you know, Wet Hair Nico came out, you know, last Saturday. You know, i was I was pretty scared, you know. I honestly thought about just chickening you and putting the C on Herbie Farnworth just because I just didn't want to hear it from you if he didn't go off. But no, it was pretty good, actually. You know, and no, it was pretty good first week, actually.
00:11:10
Speaker
Yeah, I i scored 13.55 and I kind of ranked, I'm overall va ranked about 17. 17,000, which is pretty similar to where I was last year. And, you know, and last year, as you know, you and I finished in the top 1K. So for anybody who kind of goes, oh, I haven't had a great week. It's not an issue at all. It's just making sure that you rectify any issues you have really. Yeah.
00:11:31
Speaker
That was a good bit with Nico. But the bad bit was like literally every other fullback scored big except for the one I bought. And that was Bruce Walsh. Yeah. So, yes, I will be rage trading this week. Not him, but some other people.
00:11:43
Speaker
For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Chris, you did slightly better than me, but I think consistency creates greatness because last year in round one, I got 71,000 in my ranking.
00:11:54
Speaker
And this year I am ranked 63,000. sixty three thousand So I'm ever so slightly improving, but it wasn't good, mate. It just, the vibe wasn't there. I don't know what went wrong. I got 1,223. Structure, I feel like it was good. It's just like the sit starts killed me.
00:12:10
Speaker
The sit starts definitely killed me. Got locked in. I don't know what I was thinking. was at Randall's house. I blame Randall. But yeah, Atkinson got looked in over Sanders. That's a 60-point swing.
00:12:23
Speaker
And then, yeah, obviously the Ponga loop worked out for me in huge dividends there. But guys like Setu Tu instead of ah Moses Leo. And then had guys like I missed out on Noah Martin.
00:12:37
Speaker
Didn't play Lasati. Some guys I could have easily got up to... 1400 if I did it correctly. But there's definitely a lot of guys we need to talk about today. And I instantly got onto the group chat for the secret squad. And I was like, I'm rate trading. I'm rate trading. I'm back to my old ways. Like you were talking about cigarette addiction last week. I've got a boost addiction and i need to feed it. So Chris, I need you today to talk some logic into me and not be so emotional because I'm an emotional guy. So...
00:13:09
Speaker
I've currently made one trade, but I'm ready to pull the hammer. was about to blow up just then. The volcano is about to erupt. But the boost is ready because round three, when price change is about to be happening, I'm ready.
00:13:23
Speaker
I'm going to have $450,000 in the bank potentially. Now, Chris, who are guys that we need to sell in your team or in general? Yeah, so um let me just quickly get up my team. I won't put it up i won't screen share it or anything like that, if I just need to um Basically, my team didn't go too badly at all, if I'm being perfectly honest. Like, there wasn't huge issues, but I definitely got my cheapies wrong, really. You know, Jacob Laban, the role for him just simply isn't there.
00:13:53
Speaker
um And unfortunately, think he needs to go. ah i Jonah Pezzett, he seems... He seems a bit problematic as well for me. And and i have Dan Atkinson. Funnily enough, again, like Dan Atkinson is also not a huge issue. The problem is that I've, is because i bought Adam Dewey and he's, and he's on and in week one. And so I have this issue of Adam Dewey, Atkinson and Nico Hines. And if I want to put anybody in my flex, any big premium in my flex, I've either got to get rid of Dewey, hi Nico or Atkinson. So it's a huge issue for me actually. And I'm not really ready to make a move on it just yet, but yeah.
00:14:30
Speaker
I, uh, I've got thoughts and I've got bit of hard thinking to, to do in terms of what you said, in terms of people that you want to, that we probably need to sell really, to be honest, the only one I think would be in terms of cheapies would be Jacob Laban, you know? Yeah.
00:14:47
Speaker
We should have known better, Chris. Like, it happens every single year. You see the green tick, like Chan last year, even though Chan's popping off 2026. He's a new man. He's a new Chan. He's Jackie Chan. I just don't see the role, as you said, for Laban. But Chan's locked that in. But we always knew Halasimo was coming off the bench.
00:15:07
Speaker
And Nia Cora is coming back. And then you've got other guys could potentially be shifted out onto an edge. It's just very frustrating because hindsight's 20-20. And if we knew Noah Martin was going to be an 80-minute roll, and particularly the instability and lack of security with Matty Nicholson and Zach Hosking definitely being a middle and very big backup edge player, it's just frustrating. Because, like, we've wasted a trade.
00:15:33
Speaker
and we could have saved cash, and that $40,000, $45,000 extra in the bank could have been the difference of getting like a a Munster, or it could have been the difference of getting a...
00:15:46
Speaker
slightly, like maybe getting near-camera money instead of Tino, and then we can get rid of Pezzet for um Cody Walker. Like, there are so many different things. A would have gone a long way, and it's pretty frustrating now we have to burn trades, and we're in damage control.
00:16:00
Speaker
But again, we don't want to be too too harsh too early, because again, some of these guys are very role-dependent, but also Pezzet versus a dominant team in the, well, who are they playing again? Melbourne Storm.
00:16:16
Speaker
That's always going be a hard game. And then guys like Laban could have easily played, but Hal Asima seemed to play really really, well, so he got kept on the field. It's pretty frustrating. and Like Daniel Atkinson versus a very good Bulldogs team who are very good defensively.
00:16:32
Speaker
I'm more high on Atkinson out of those three as a whole. I think... there was He got 32 and he pretty much did jackal. So that's promising. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, well, I mean, quickly go back to Laban. I mean, when you asked me last week, you know, what do we know about him? I just said, look, I don't know anything about him. I just know that Adam told me to go buy him. So I went, I'm just going to go buy him. I think it's also been just coupled by the fact as well that, you know, like this, like pretty much this chiefy class this year, just, mate, they all just popped off. It feels very much like 2023, like sorry, and NBA, you know, draft class of LeBron James, Dwayne Way, Chris Bosh, you know, and poor old, you know, Jacob Laban is like, you know Darko Milicic really of the chiefy class.
00:17:17
Speaker
But, you know, yeah, like, it's like what you said, like, we should have known, honestly, they was going to split minutes with like a halicema, you know, it was just, we were kind of praying. We just got on this hunch that, you know, oh, look, Kirk Capewell, he's, he's getting old. Surely he can't keep starting, you know, surely, you know, you know, Leck is going to go play on the left and, you know, lay him on the right and we're going all going to, you know, benefit from him. It's just one of those ones that didn't work out. Yeah, if regards to Daniel Atkinson, I think most of us bought him you know on the understanding that he's going to have two you know tough matchups. you know Like you said, Doggies and Storm before everything opened up. you know
00:17:49
Speaker
and But it's just the issue. It's same thing. you know Fast forward and you know to last Saturday night, you you and I are just going no looking at Ethan Sanders, 94, and we're going, oh, how did we get all so wrong? So, you know, I'd encourage, you know, most owners, you know, these very team dependent. Like for example, if it needs to facilitate a trade, you know, trade him.
00:18:08
Speaker
But, you know, I'd really recommend that, you know, you hold him, just watch him, you know, because... In Vegas, one of the issues was, one of the critiques was that he just made his tackles and all he did was just kick on the fifth. And, you know, Flano said, hey, you know, don't do anything difficult. Don't be fancy. You know, it's hard to know that, you know, when he's back in Australia, if the whole, you know, is the role the same? You know, if the role's the same, then yeah, fine.
00:18:28
Speaker
Move him on in round three. You know, trade him to Ethan Sanders. but The other thing is this, if Aston Sanders, you know, scores 30 this week and, you know, Atkinson scores 60, that 60 is now in the rolling average for an extra week. And all of a sudden that 90 drops out from Sanders.
00:18:42
Speaker
You know, i think it's a case of has the role changed? And for Laban it has. Atkinson, not so much. Yeah. I think, and again, the smaller fields never help.
00:18:53
Speaker
I think, attacking players. Like Ponga obviously was the exception. Fletcher Sharp was the exception. But everyone else didn't really pop off. So I think that's also important to note. and Ponga and Sharper, relatively established players, Atkinson and didn't play at all last year in first grade. And he was 18th man for a lot of those games. So he wasn't even playing in Q Cup or New South Wales Cup, whatever it is. So he wasn't getting those reps in either. So I'm more confident Atkinson against Melbourne. Do I play him against Melbourne? I wouldn't if I was you guys.
00:19:28
Speaker
just because they're Melbourne. But Melbourne are very leaky. They have been very leaky the past couple of years. And yeah, they've probably got a little bit more athletic with Chan and Lissardi out on the edges, comparatively to, I guess, Blancatoa, who a bit more strength-based. But I'm not sure.
00:19:45
Speaker
I'm a bit rattled. bit rattled. I think Sanders, Sanderson, Sanderson, Oh, he's a gun. I literally said to you in the um the group chat, I literally watched a five-minute highlight reel in New South Wales Cup from him last year. And I was like, happy. Lock him in. I was annoyed that I got locked out.
00:20:04
Speaker
Because, again, that's a 60-point swing. Definitely more confident in Sanders. I wouldn't be trading Atkinson. And I was like raging in the group chat. Jake's like, I'm bursting you in our local league. I'm getting Taylor May. And I'm like, well, I can go get Nathan Cleary. And so, like, don't tempt me, bruh.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah, look, mean, if you go think back just even to two years ago, you know, when Atkinson played half-back for Cronulla when Nico was injured, and he played Melbourne, and he had that field goal that, you know, that won them the game as well. as so And he had he had a blinder that game, so he can he can play well, you know, against anybody he's But, you know, Sanders, yeah, if he has another great score next week, it's going to be hard not to buy him in round three for sure. Like, it just seems that, you know, his floor might be low 30s to 40s without even any attack at all with that goal kicking. It's just because I think our issues was, out my issue was, hey, Raiders have a tough start, you know, a tough draw. You know, might struggle early in tack, know, especially as he adapts, you know, you know as ah as a rookie fullback, sorry, rookie halfback. But it turns out all those fears were unfounded. And, you know, I think Canberra are going to be in the top eight again. for sure. You know, Joe Chan, you also talked about. Apologies to him. I caught him a bad bye last week and, you know, I was totally wrong. You know, 87 points, ran great lines, you know.
00:21:15
Speaker
Like, it's again, it's one of those ones where in hindsight, you know, you should known, we should have known. He's off, you know, he's on Jerome Hope, Jerome Hughes' hip, you know. you know, of course he's going to find the score try, you know. He just looked like a cat out there.
00:21:26
Speaker
And um I think for many people, you know, if they haven't started with Lasati and Joe Chan, the question then is, oh, look, do we have to get both them or do we get one of them? And it's really hard. i'd I'd say to everybody, just, you can watch another week if you have to feel like you have to buy this week to facilitate a trade. Hopefully, I think Joe Chan, just because of thee the job security, I think you have to get him more so than Lasati.
00:21:48
Speaker
But Lasati also just, what is Lasati base? Lasati had... He had like, was that i think he scored 80 and it's like 70, like pretty much 70 in base really. yeah And I was like, like, you know, when, when, when he's done, when they start versus on his more difficult teams, you know, Joe Chan, you know, he could, he could score 30 and then Lissati, even if he's off the bench and he gets minutes taken away by Liero and Joe and even Sean Bloor, you know, he might still still average 50, you know, just because of that base, yeah just going into tackle.
00:22:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I also want to keep talking about cheapies, mate, because again, some were popping off. I think a big one as well was pretty frustrating was you mentioned the Sharks game earlier with Nico Hines popping off. I'll tell you what, Howe could have got bloody 130 himself. he missed three tries as a Titans loyal diehard member.
00:22:39
Speaker
in Absolutely infuriating that how do you miss three tries because you run over the top of the ball like... Do you need to go to OPSN? So, but I think for him, 80 minutes, didn't really get any attacking stats because he ran over the ball three times. Dual position, okay. For me, he's passed the ah eye test.
00:22:57
Speaker
What are your thoughts? Oh, 100%. You know, if he if he doesn't have air swings at those tries, you know, he becomes, you know, the best performing champion of the round. And we're just all talking about, you know, why didn't we get him? You know, um he's a buy for sure. 57, you know, without any attack. Josh Patson, he's on the extended reserve, but I think he's going to drop out if I'm not mistaken. I think he's supposed to start Q Cup this week.
00:23:20
Speaker
The job security is there. Funnily enough, I actually think of all the chiefies, he might actually be the most locked in, you know, in terms of, hey, you should go buy them this week. Probably along with ah Noah Martin as well, you know, but really, yeah. um If he's not in your team and you've got spec and you've got a spare trade and you don't know what to do, get him, yeah.
00:23:39
Speaker
If you had to rank Noah Martin, Lasati, how? Chan, how would you go? I think you have to definitely go... It depends on if you want to buy this week. If you have to buy this week, you have to do it.
00:23:53
Speaker
I'm going to say it has to be Noah Martin just because of the 116 or whatever he scored. and then it And then next it has to be Hau. And then... Actually, no. going to say it's Chan. Chan 2.
00:24:06
Speaker
Then Hau 3. And then it's Lasati 4. It will change next week. It just depends on what happens this week with Sean Bloor. Yeah. And then also next week. Do you think he comes in? Pretty sure he's on the extended bench.
00:24:20
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. don't know. And they also thump. And he played well. So... That's the thing, yeah. Do put him as a reserve? I heard something... on the grapevine, it was like some, oh, no, actually, it was not a podcast. They were like, it's probably a case of, you know, Bellamy's going to go up to Chan and Lasati laain go, look, you guys both start. The moment you guys do something stupid, I'm putting Blu in, you know, just to kind of whip them in line. And I think that's actually pretty good. It makes sure that they don't do any dumb stuff. They don't randomly try to kick on the fifth randomly, you know, if we're in the red zone, you know. and Well, what are your thoughts of this? Because Tui Kamakamika, he is at lock.
00:24:57
Speaker
Does Lissardi start at second row? Sean Ball comes onto the bench, then comes onto the starting field for Lissardi. Lissardi then shifts to lock. Yep. It's possible. It's possible. The problem is that what happens next week, that's the problem. It's when Liero comes back, you know, like it's, you don't know enough about what's going to happen with Lissardi. That's the problem. And if you find out, so...
00:25:18
Speaker
Another example, very quickly, Nat Butcher, who started at 2RF Right Edge last week. He's on the bench. Sia Wong's come on, you know, and, you know, people who probably saw that last week and went, mate, I'm definitely buying. He played 80 as well. He played good. He scored 72. It was awesome.
00:25:35
Speaker
If that happens to Lissardi drops off to the bench and you see Joe Chan on the right edge and Bloor on the left and Liero at lock next week on TLT, you're going to be mad. Absolute mad. Mad edge. Yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker
So I think, yeah. Yeah. I think you if you have to buy somebody, I think Joe Chan, if you're going to, of the two. Yeah. Or just buy both of them and just be prepared to sell one of them and waste the trade.
00:25:59
Speaker
Yeah. I think we can obviously agree. Sanders over Atkinson in terms of halfback GP. Pezzit, fuck, him another week. Give him another week. oh I don't want to go too premature on Pezzit. Give him another chance.
00:26:11
Speaker
But now that the center wing cheapies, and there's a lot. There's five the top my head I can think of because there's five on my screen and I've got five in my team. But Leo, gun. Makassini starting at center, worthy to note this week, not at the wing.
00:26:29
Speaker
Setu Tu was very good in Vegas. Tommy Chester and Farmani from the Gold Coast Titans. We haven't seen Matt Cassini in first grade just yet. We obviously saw him in the trials.
00:26:42
Speaker
But if you had to pick two to start, who would you pick and why? This week, I'm definitely going to start Chester. He scored 61 in base, just doing nothing. 61 is a great score. if he heat This week, they're playing... Who are they playing?
00:27:00
Speaker
They're playing Tigers. you know against And he's going to be up against Macassini, who looked a little bit... lot If you remember the trials, I think he's great, Macassini. But um when you know he was great on offense you know when he absolutely ran over Dylan Edwards. But for the first try that...
00:27:19
Speaker
Penrith scored when Cleary, you know, looped the ball over to ryan Brian Totten. He went scoring to try in the, in the end. The reason why that happened was because Makasini got lost. You know, he kind of just came in a little bit, didn't necessarily have to. And then he got, then he got looked confused when it happened. So there's a very good chance that if, if it turns, you know, that Chester scores big and also Makasini score big, both of them could score big just against each other. It just becomes a shootout, you know, like, like most tigers and cowboys.
00:27:47
Speaker
games are. They're just, you know, they're just points, point galore, really. But I would choose Chester and truthfully, I'd probably choose Chester. For safety, I'd probably choose Moses-Leo. It's just cheapy on a good team, even though it's a Dragons. The Dragons, yeah, the Dragons aren't the Dargons. They were great, you know, against Bulldogs, you know, and really helped them out.
00:28:07
Speaker
But I would say that after, I'd say Chester 1, Moses 2, and then I'd go Makasini 3 for sure. I wouldn't be playing Setu 2 or Fam Marnie this week.
00:28:18
Speaker
but Actually, Fab Marnie could actually play as well. You know, who's he playing against? Oh, Fins. Dolphins. Should be better. Actually, against Herbie and Cobo, nah. Cobo, I can just imagine they're going to just smash him at some point and just go, welcome to the NRL. You know, that kind of thing. You know, so it may not be great. Yeah. Go Chester and Leo and Makasini. One of them. Two of them.
00:28:42
Speaker
Thoughts? Yeah. I've got to go, first I'm going to go Leo, Maccassini, Chester because I've got Steven Criden on my bench. So good to know. But yeah, I wouldn't playing Cedric 2. I'm glad I chose the right ones for you.
00:28:55
Speaker
yeah Yeah. but Dolphins, you've sort of convinced me. But yeah, no, if you started five cheapies as your structure, yeahre you're laughing because all of them look great. If you are somebody who's missed out on any of these cheapies, I would i would say that you can choose to get them all in.
00:29:12
Speaker
if you want to this week, if you've got nothing to do, 100%. Biden, they're all going to have pretty good job security. The only one is Tom Chester, but bit i my understanding is he's one at hand. Actually, yeah, the exception probably might be jeff Tom Chester just because Labor, you know, wait next week. But any of the other four, yeah, go pick them up if you want this week. or you can watch some Tommy Chester does well this week. I think he's going to feel pretty rorted if he gets dropped the preceding week. So hopefully wheels up Tommy Chester.
00:29:40
Speaker
I think that's cheapy chat pretty much done. I want to get into some guys with some... Oh, is I missing one? Yeah, I'm just going to quickly talk about a few more um as well. Yeah, course. but We talked about Noah Martin. Yeah, get him in this week if you can.
00:29:54
Speaker
Paseca, wheels up for him. they He was going to be three on base and power. And Takayaku's got a calf injury now. i think he's only out a week, you know, so definitely. Tommy Flegler, 47 points in 43 minutes.
00:30:07
Speaker
And your side feed, he's still nowhere in the team. Max Plath is back, but if he plays, takes minutes off, he's more likely to take minutes off Brad Schneider at hooker at the moment. He'll probably be a slow burn until his minutes increase to 50, but, you know, straight away, you know, if he does, he's going to be 50 plus for sure. Jesse Cohoon, did you like, what did you think about Jesse Cohoon, actually, Ryan?
00:30:28
Speaker
What do about the owners? A lot of lot of owners, for sure. Yeah, Plotter. There's too many other good options, man. Like we talked second rows. I think there's too many, there's so many jewels out there in Mooney. If you have Tino, Couchman, yeah, there's plenty around. How, I think you can probably get most of those guys in the front row have a better attacking upside than Plotters like Paseca, Colquhoun and Flegler. The other, the latter two, obviously Colquhoun and obviously job security is not great with him, but thoughts?
00:30:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, there's not much you could do, was there? I mean, you can't really rack up tackles and you know and and base when you know when you put 50 against your opponents. and yeah And then your opponents also never have the ball, so you can't tackle them either. So, yeah. But I think I agree with you. i think that I think the the minutes in the roll wasn't isn't there, I think. I agree you. If you can trade him as part of you know like a two- or three-way trade this week, and if you still take a trade, like you know trade him down to you know, which you we'll call it, to Noel Martin, they'll give you $80,000 just in free cash right there to to do something else. So I think, yeah, i think I would agree you. But bad luck, Jesse Calhoun owners. Yeah, bad luck. It's just everybody. i think there's one more to keep you too.
00:31:39
Speaker
And he's been outside the mound because of Vegas, but Ryan Couchman? Yes. George? Yes. I think he's fine to buy if you if if the only option you have, like, example, it's part of a boost or freeway trade and and all you have is $240,000 and you can't get to... Just you have to be aware that he's still coming back from an ACL, you know, any you know any and there's going to be lots of issues. He could lose his spot when... li little returns. There's going to be weeks when his minutes aren't reliable because Flanagan seems to often hold back some of his he' young hiss young ones. Like last year I had Hamish Stewart and in one of the presses he talked about how, yeah, i'm just going sometimes I'm going to go big and sometimes and knock I'm going to just you know bench him for a little bit longer. And when I really needed Hamish Stewart, I think it was in one of the buys, he like
00:32:27
Speaker
Flano didn't put him on until like the second half and he scored 15 for me and it was absolute disaster. Yeah. Yeah. So just be aware of that possibility. I would really wait until next week as well. And also Setu too. Also, he's not going to go for with cramps in the 60th minute every game.
00:32:43
Speaker
I think, what about, because you've got Cooper Byte as well, another cheapie. I feel like he's getting held back ever so slightly as a very biased Titans fan.
00:32:56
Speaker
I feel like he should be starting very soon. If you've got Cooper by and you're looking to go sideways like a Ryan Cashman, I probably wouldn't. Would you agree? i would agree with that. I think.
00:33:07
Speaker
Yeah. I think you can do it, but not this week. It has to be next week. So for example, if Cooper by also doesn't get big minutes this week and Josh Hanna said that he's not going to give him minutes regardless, but that could change. You know, if they get beaten again by, you know, 50 and Cooper by looks irresistible, you have to start him really.
00:33:26
Speaker
But the problem is that I think that you're better off in round three. If he, you know, again, if Nick this week, he doesn't play big minutes, just sell him. You can get him back at a later date. It's just one of those ones that you gave it a go. It just didn't work out. Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker
For no fault of it. Yeah. And again, people had Laban like myself, people had Cooper Bias, some people had both. You're trying to minimize trades, guys, but if you can get away with it, I will probably would hold by if your second row, front row structure is solid enough. But if you've got too much damage control, yeah, he's definitely a fade for a guy like Noel Martin. probably the most popular option for obvious reasons.
00:34:02
Speaker
I think that's most of the cheapest, Chris, or all the relevant ones anyway. You've obviously got some mid-tier guys we we can talk about very shortly, but I want to talk about chasing break-evens. Now, we've got two guys at the top.
00:34:16
Speaker
Well, three guys technically at the top. Two of them play for the same team. One of them's the best player on the team, and that's Braden Trindle. Now, do we chase points? in ah In a position that's desolate at the best of times, Trindle with 132 break-even, versing the Penrith Panthers, who very stringent with their defence.
00:34:35
Speaker
I've been popping off in the group chat for weeks that Trindle's the man all-star game last week. That's two games in a row. Third game rolling average. We don't want to see that um that poor score. If he can do really well against the Panthers, even if he scores like a 60 or a 70, 80 even, 80 is like obviously probably top ceiling, but he can get any between 50 to 80 points,
00:35:01
Speaker
My confidence will go sky high for Braden Trindle in 2026. yeah In regards to Braden Trindle, yeah, awesome NRL player. two two Two issues with him. You name one of them. The first one is is he plays Penrith this week. Like, it's going to be hard for him to score big. Like, he has, historically, he's never been.
00:35:21
Speaker
ah Basically, he didn't have great base last week. So if he gets zero attack this week, then he could he he's going to score 20. Actually, he's got 20. And it's going to be a huge issue.
00:35:32
Speaker
That 131, sorry, rolls out. in two weeks time and now you're stuck with a not so hot commodity and you're thinking what were we thinking really and thing a really good comment actually I noted actually it was on the YouTube video when I was watching the SC playbook podcast yesterday they talked about how in terms of how they seem to be awarding like try assists Ryan and my understanding was
00:36:03
Speaker
I think SC Spy said knows someone and they in who actually does the stats for both and NRL and Fox footy. And they talk about if you catch if the attacker catches the ball in front of their defender and they don't really have their and the defender doesn't have their hips turned, they probably will not give...
00:36:25
Speaker
the try assist to ever pass the ball to them. that That's fair. But the issue is that there are certain, some teams like to put, like some some teams work their defense by hitting in heaps.
00:36:36
Speaker
And then there are certain teams, which I heard read on this comment, like such as the Bulldogs and Penrith, who they hold and they play man to man. So for example, even if you get, for example, it was like last week with Billy Smith, when Sam Walker passed the ball to Billy Smith against New Zealand.
00:36:53
Speaker
like New Zealand didn't hit in. As a result, Sam Walker didn't get the try, even though Billy Smith got the try. And and like I would say that every day of the week, Sam Smith, sorry, Sam Walker put Billy Smith into space and therefore he scored. It just so happened that it just looked awesome. And looked like, it was from 20 meters out. That's the only reason. you know saying? Like, and so, so what i'm saying is that, especially if you're going be playing certain teams, such as Penrith,
00:37:16
Speaker
and Bulldogs and maybe New Zealand now we're talking about New Zealand, like where they seem to hold off, then you might not get, you might not get the, you might not get attacking points that you deserve. So against Penrith this week, I would say i wouldn't buy Trindle in. The other issue is just his history. He's never been a super coach relevant player really. And he's,
00:37:35
Speaker
If he does really well against Penrith this week, I think you definitely buy him in next week for sure. It's worth it. you know He's definitely gone a step up as well. That's the other thing as ah as a so as an NRL player. Surely it has to translate a little bit in terms points.
00:37:48
Speaker
100%. again, I test, mate. I think it really sold me at the All-Star game when you're playing with a lot of good players. He was the guy. You had Jaden Campbell. You had Nico Hines. You had some other guns in the team who were very ball dominant as well. And he was the guy running the ship.
00:38:06
Speaker
I think that's a pretty clear indicator where his development has gone. And I've always been pretty hydrant. Again, I echo what you're saying in regards to not being so Supercoach relevant, but hey, new year, new Trindle.
00:38:19
Speaker
I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. And for guys like myself who own Jackson Perdue, Perfect downgrade. Watch and see, obviously, he's definitely a watch, Trindle, this week. I don't want to pull the trigger on Cody Walker either. I'd want to watch him again. But if one of the two, or both, potentially even, pop off and get two good scores, you could even go Perdue and Pez it out next week and get both of them in.
00:38:43
Speaker
Because they could be the next stepping stone to a guy like Fletcher Sharp, which is obviously potentially coming the next three weeks because obviously he's got to come back from his PCL injury plus get that rolling average potentially down or up. We've got to see that.
00:38:58
Speaker
But I really like him. I think he probably... I'm scared with the Rabideaus because... Too many guys on the left edge obviously prove dividends against a pretty woeful team that they played in regards to off defense. But if you've got Cody Walker, most people have Dave Fafida.
00:39:17
Speaker
Most people have Latrell Mitchell. Muck that bloody trade up too. But Latrell Mitchell, you've got three guys on the one edge. If they somehow get shut down, you are cooked.
00:39:28
Speaker
Like very high because they're some of the best attacking players in each of their respective positions. But you're gonna have a very bad week. And there's a fair bit of money in those three guys over the coming weeks as they their price changes. That does concern me. And Nico Hines, only 12% owned.
00:39:44
Speaker
So it's not like... everyone has Nico Hines in their team or a Cleary, whatever. A Trindle then bridges the gap, so then you could maybe then get a Cleary as a differentiation point. Or Sam Walker was pretty mid, as you were talking about, with some of those tri-assist new rules. He could be a guy that loses cash and you can go over them. Bit of differentiation. I think there's more halfbacks who are ah better than the 5-8-2 are potentially available, unless your name is Fletcher Sharp or Cameron Munster.
00:40:13
Speaker
That's what I'm trying to get at. Yeah. i Let's talk about... Jackson Perdue, I really don't think he's a sell. Like, he plays... I agree. He plays Titans this week, and then he plays the Titans next week. Like, if at any point, if he's ever going to score points, like and also, he he was so close, I think, against Le Manson Knights a few times to scoring. He could have scored a double, honestly. And again, then we're talking about something completely different once again. It's just one game, guys. And a wider field. And a wider field, mate. It's going make a difference.
00:40:47
Speaker
yeah yeah well i mean Yeah, exactly. i mean You keep talking about the wider field thing, and it's so true. Do you remember how Dom Young, there was a try where I was watching with Adam, and we were so certain was going to score in the corner, and he just got bundled out. It's because of that smaller field. Everybody can just catch up. Yeah, if he just had that wider. But yeah, I don't think Purdue's a sell at the moment. I think that maybe, I guess, why not?
00:41:08
Speaker
Did we talk about Pezzet? Should we talk about Pezzet now? like Yeah, let's go Pezzet. I like it. I, funnily enough, like, I know he's technically a hold, but like, like, especially if you can hold until round three, because the positive is that he plays then five games at Combank, but he's going need so much attacking stacks to be relevant. He had, he had 17 and it was literally all in tackles pretty much.
00:41:31
Speaker
And then historically I look back at his previous seasons. He's never been much of a ball runner either. So he's not a, he's not a ball running half. So he's got to get attack. I think that, I mean, I spent two weeks watching Peasant.
00:41:44
Speaker
Sorry, actually last week watching Peasant. Every time I clicked on your team, Adam's team, Andy's team, Darius would be the 17 with the advantage, you know, because he's going be an a nightmare, man. I think that the faster you can get him out, I think if you have to get one of the two of them out, you get Peasant out before you get Jackson Perdue out.
00:42:03
Speaker
And you just have to find somebody else. to find the money to upgrade Peasant is what I think, honestly. It doesn't matter it's Trindle. doesn't matter if it's Cody. I think the best way to do it is next week, whoever has the higher break even, just pick them. By the time next week happens, then you're versing Cody Walker, but Walker's then playing the Tigers. And it could if he goes dup big, big, he's gonna go definitely going to go big again. He's never scored well against Roosters. If he can score big against the Roosters, he can definitely score big against Tigers. And it's worth putting him on the bye.
00:42:35
Speaker
even if you have a buy-off. Oh, 100%. But again, yeah, there's so many Rabideaux's relevant players. Like, people might have Jai Gray. Keon's a huge one. Cameron Murray.
00:42:46
Speaker
Chris, I knew he would be good. I knew he'd be good and he got bloody 72. I need to trust my gut next time. Story another day. But there's another guy on this list, and we're talking about break-even sort of at the moment, but Tanner Boyd.
00:43:00
Speaker
What? 131 points out of nowhere? Tanner Boyd popping off? Where was this for the Gold Coast Titans? He must be got um that Kewa Park connection with Dave Fafita or something because something's working for him.
00:43:15
Speaker
For this team in particular, they've got so much athleticism and youth and enthusiasm amongst their whole entire team. For a guy who's pretty controlling and currently got the goal kicking, don't hate it.
00:43:29
Speaker
Scary, scary to think that he could be a potential option after, again, watching this week. But Tanner Boyd, if he gets like another 70, I'll tell you what, I can see if you don't do something, I might go Tanner Boyd. I'm dead serious.
00:43:46
Speaker
I was looking at Adam Dewey, I'm like unproven, but hey, if Tanner Boyd, if he, okay, I'll say it now. If Tanner Boyd gets 70 plus this week, he's coming in.
00:43:58
Speaker
Did he pass the eye test for you last week? Yeah, he did. Shockingly. yeah ah Do you know what? I mean, ah you know, I do this podcast with you just because sometimes we get like really, really weird contrarian like ideas. And I'm like, dude, that's actually genius. You know, like I think he's actually genius like Ryan because, because guess what? Like Metcalf's going to come back in about round seven and people are going to go, no, I'm not wasting a trade here. I'm not wasting a trade.
00:44:26
Speaker
Kind what goal kicking, you know, if he's if he's that if he's running like the way, you know, he's what I want Nico to be, really. You know, to run the ball, you know, that's what I really want. You know, and if he's doing everything like that, if i'm it's good enough that Nico be on my team, you should maybe, honestly, he could be like your way into the top 1K, really. Like we could be looking at round seven, he gets dropped and now nobody can get him anymore.
00:44:48
Speaker
And he's on like 750 to 800,000 and now you can sell them Cleary or whoever you want and you make bulk cash and nobody, nobody can do it. Nobody can replicate it.
00:44:59
Speaker
Guess what his percentage ownership is without looking. 1%. Yeah. Yeah. Pod. Yeah. Yeah. He's the potty stuff. It won't be that low if he pops off again, but I'm telling you what, mate, if he gets 70 plus, that's like a hundred rolling average.
00:45:14
Speaker
Pretty good. So, yeah, no, look, seriously, like like this. I'll think of it way. What you're really hoping then is you're really hoping Ethan Sanders scores just enough, scores 65 to 70 this week, such that people go, okay, I've got my one premium gun, and then i have, and I can't sell Sanders, and then nobody's going to go on Boyd. And if you jump on Boyd instead, dude.
00:45:39
Speaker
Yeah, like, right I don't know what they're drawing. That's somebody popping off. Like, that's actually crazy talk. And I tell you what, Canberra's been leaky. Very, very leaky. He could score very big.
00:45:53
Speaker
Newcastle Knights, okay. West Tigers could be big. Don't like the Sharks. Don't like the Melbourne game. That do scare me a little bit. But then you've got Titans, Dolphins, Parra. Broncos aren't very good defensively.
00:46:09
Speaker
And then, again, probably by then. I'll tell you what, if Tanner Boyd keeps playing well, Harris David is no guarantee of staying in the halves either. absolutely Absolute, absolute segue.
00:46:24
Speaker
You could get that. What a juicy... mat like What a juicy run of games at round seven. like Titans, Finns, Parra, Broncos, and then St. George. We're talking about one, two, three of the probably, you know, bottom eight teams, you know, in the competition in that five-game stretch. And then he'll probably be at 700, 800K, and nobody can afford him. And it's just you, and just laughing. it you know It's like Dylan Edwards back in 2024 when he just went absolutely off... 100, 100, 100. the start or something that. And the rest them are going, ah, we've missed him.
00:46:57
Speaker
Crazy. That is enough kind of void chat. Wow. Now, i want to talk fullbacks because fullbacks are always an interesting conversation.
00:47:08
Speaker
I went Rhys Walsh. You you went Rhys Walsh as well? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think Adam went Reese Walsh, and it was an L. Okay, it was an L. Broncos just looked absolutely trash.
00:47:19
Speaker
Also, he looked like he was trying in the second half. He was an absolute ghost in the first half. I swear he got like two minutes of TV time. That's how like unmotivated and not wanting the ball he looked like in the first half. And I did have a bit of, in the back of my head, bit of a head noise. I was like...
00:47:37
Speaker
I've got to trust my gut. Like, Walsh is going to do good. But people going be selling. You are. He's going to be, or Broncos as a whole, they're going to be coming out absolutely red hot. Instant vice-captain option for this week in regards to Walsh.
00:47:53
Speaker
I think he's a hold. I probably wouldn't buy him if you haven't got him because rolling average. But if you still got him in your team, hold for sure. Wouldn't buy. and then he's probably a buy in round three or four.
00:48:06
Speaker
Thoughts? Yeah, he was he was in like, he was 10th in most traded out like last night, like at some point. He's not anymore. He's out of it. But i was just like, was like to those people, I wanted just to do the the Michael Jordan, you know, stop, get some help, you know, meme to them. but Yeah, look, he's,
00:48:22
Speaker
Look, he could have got... Look, honestly, there was a pass where he could have got a try assist to Jordan Rickey, but Jordan Rickey dropped the ball. And there was one, I think, to kit Tony Stagg somewhere. way I can't remember anymore.
00:48:33
Speaker
Where he... Honestly, he could have just... He touched the ball, like, zero times until, like, the 70th minute, literally. He could have scored... He scored 34. He could have been on... What's plus 40? He could have 74 doing nothing for only 10 minutes. Like, seriously.
00:48:47
Speaker
Yeah, dude, don't trade him. And that's what I'm waiting for. Put the VC on him. like i'm really he needs He needs come out and come big, but you know just to punish non-owners, really. yeah I think Ezra Mann starting as well. And that's when he started popping off too, when Ezra Mann actually got back into the team.
00:49:04
Speaker
He has a running companion next to I did hear that Ezra is nursing a little bit of a leg injury. I think it might have been quad or hamstring. But yeah, he's 100% starting match. Maguire's confirmed that.
00:49:18
Speaker
You don't need Hunt and you don't need Renault on at the same time. Yep. In the half. It doesn't work. Like, yeah they're too old. You need some athleticism out there. And when you've got strike galore on those edges with those centers and wingers, Walsh needs someone to create a little bit more space so then he can be the next guy running around for that sweeper. Ezra Mann does that in spades.
00:49:43
Speaker
And then, yeah, very frustrating. Payne Haas obviously tried. Dodged the bullet. or Paddy Carrigan and Garza Broncos, relevant players. Obviously talking fullbacks, but I'm just having a look. It's just annoying because I... Annoying.
00:49:55
Speaker
But I want to talk for a rest. But super far, long ago. Fantastic. Should have trusted the gut. We knew. But to be fair, if you watch some of those Melbourne tries, pretty bloody lucky. Got a perfect bounce for the chip kick. Got a nice support run play. And then even the other one, it was pretty lucky try. Like, they weren't something of him, like, creating shit out of nothing besides the chip and chase.
00:50:19
Speaker
A lot of caveats there. I did project him to probably average 75 points for the year. So he's definitely at undervalued for sure. But don't be expecting 115, 116 every single week.
00:50:31
Speaker
Yeah, very quickly back to Reece Walsh. Yeah, for anybody who's got him, hold him, have no fear. He's going to come out big. And then more importantly... Starting round four, Finns, Titans, Cowboys, West Tigers, four and four games, bro. It's juicy.
00:50:44
Speaker
Doesn't matter. don't even Even if he has a 200 break even next week, just keep him. Honestly, keep him. Don't sell him for Melbourne. You saw what he did against Melbourne in the grand final, guys. And a moment also, fuck you know, when, you know, if Reynolds, you know, Hammies just feel a little bit tight, you know, guess what? He just picks up the goal kicking too. So far, Longo, yeah, dude, he was on 21 at halftime and he was like on 50 at like 65 minutes, dude.
00:51:06
Speaker
World's yeah biggest junk. World's biggest junk. That's all I can say. Yeah. Yeah. So far, Longo, fantastic. Tom Trubojevic coming back from the dead. Early days. And this is what we expected early Tom Trubojevic to do with the early rounds because he's healthy.
00:51:23
Speaker
Is he back? ah i Can I be honest? I couldn't watch the game because KO. kao I was stuck in the KO thing where like literally like I ah couldn't even log on. 100, 104. He's in my draft. He's in my draft. And, you know, I can't resist to Tommy.
00:51:43
Speaker
The only reason why I'm not having, I don't have him for this week is because the buy in round three. Just pick up him round four. Honestly. Don't hamstring yourself. Yep. Literally don't hamstring yourself. I thought he was good. I thought he he wanted the ball. He looked like he wanted to run the ball as well because obviously he was doing a lot of distributing last year.
00:52:04
Speaker
Wheels up Tom Trubojevic. Tedesco, fantastic. Back to his ah best self. Daly Cherry Evans is definitely the third fiddle on that team and they didn't look too red hot, the Roosters, against that Waz team. So I predict them to only get better.
00:52:19
Speaker
He's probably going to stay at price, would be my prediction. Don't expect him to jump, I mean, a drop in price. Maybe drops down 800k, but I don't see him getting in the 700 realm. he just He's too involved, and there's too many attacking opportunities with Sammy Walker. and Obviously, you're going to get the hooker back in Recy Robson, and there and they're only to look better up from that.
00:52:41
Speaker
Yeah, wheels up. James Hadesco, thoughts? Yeah, I'm going to come out and say it. Teddy's never going age. He's never going to regress. And you and I, Ryan, are still going to be picking him in our super coach team in 2040.
00:52:54
Speaker
Facts. Yeah, I think the biggest concern, what held most people back from Teddy, was, again, hard draw. But he honestly, he plays, especially now that, you know, We've had a wait a week. He now plays Souths, Manly, Newcastle, and St. George in the next six games.
00:53:11
Speaker
You know, Bunnies might be great. He plays Bunnies this week, but they still like 30 to the Finns in the rain. And check out these last four scores against the Bunnies. 101, 131, 135, 140. So he averages a ton.
00:53:25
Speaker
He's a genuine VC captain option this week. you know And I think that if you buy him, i think you have to buy him this week because I think... After this week, I think next week he plays, I can't remember who, but somebody hard.
00:53:36
Speaker
So, yeah, he honestly, once again, like Tanner Boyd, people might not want him and he could be taken to top top one yeah Yeah, obviously, Scotty Drinkwater, you sort of talked about him last week, that weird cartilage injury. I probably would be selling if I was you. Huge break even at 790k. There's so many other guys who you can flex towards. You can even push up to a Reese Walsh. Yeah, agreed. Nothing more that. Yeah, I'd definitely be 100% selling Drinkwater.
00:54:04
Speaker
Disappointing with some other guys as well. I thought Keanu Keeney was very valiant in his efforts. Again, the rage in the group chat. i He did nothing.
00:54:14
Speaker
Absolutely nothing. you got absolutely hammered every time we got the ball. And the Sharks are notoriously good at defending fullbacks. He got 59 points in a team that got decimated. You talk some sense into me.
00:54:25
Speaker
Keeney will be held. um And he still got better than his break-even, which is also worthy to note. I would not be selling Kenny at 41%. You picked him for a reason. Jaden Campbell's going back soon. He's only going to get better from that. Titans can't be any worse and they won't be versing such a dominant defensive team.
00:54:42
Speaker
Dolphins are pretty leaky at the best of times as well. Yep, 100%. To quote you, Ryan, last year, Shark Park or Ocean fra Protect Park is a graveyard for fullbacks.
00:54:53
Speaker
Nothing more needs to be said there. Dude, 40 base and power. Had a try assist. Almost had a second one, I think. I can't remember when now. But he plays Fins, Cowboys, Dragons. Like, it's the same thing we talked about Tommy Chester. Same thing we talked about Jackson Perdue. If he's going to find points, it's going to be these free these three teams. Keep them.
00:55:13
Speaker
Don't sell them. Yeah. Yep. Is there any other fullbacks you want to talk about? oh Like Hamill was okay. I thought Dylan Edwards, back to his best self as well, I thought he was very, very good in a Bronco scene that absolutely dominated. If he's to have a very similar role, what he had against the Broncos, could be an option, but at his price, don't overly love it. Thoughts on Edwards?
00:55:36
Speaker
Yeah, if you started him, awesome. Yeah, it's just a hard draw once again. You know, yeah everybody's popping off. Like, I don't know. I don't think you can you can choose him realistically. But, you know, yeah, I don't think he's going to go keep going crazy.
00:55:49
Speaker
I think you just missed out on the number two most bought popular trade in this week, Caelan Ponga. Would you buy him, Ryan? Sorry. like Yeah. well If I own him because I'm an awesome supercoacher.
00:56:01
Speaker
But, um yeah, if I like him more with a Fletcher Sharp there, Ah, Sandon Smith. I don't know. If Sandon Smith wants to be more of a halfback and then Dylan Brown could be more of that Fletcher Sharp role that he was having because Dylan Brown's very good ball runner in himself. I think Ponga would be better then. But if Ponga has to be the halfback and Sandon Smith has to be the Fletcher Sharp...
00:56:24
Speaker
Yeah, no chance. yeah I also don't know if Ponga will keep kicking. That's another variable. Maybe it's a watch and see. i would say Ponga due to the fact that Sanders Smith looks like he's going to be the backup anyway. I don't see him taking the kicking from Ponga and Ponga kicked pretty well in Vegas. Something to note. But Ponga eye test at Vegas looked very, very good.
00:56:48
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So that's so frustrating, Ryan, because, you know, like, like two weeks ago, I was like, I'm going to stay away. Just, I just want to see how the foot injury is, you know, how their spine attack is going. And, you know, two weeks later, you're still telling me the same thing. Hey, just watch out. Like, if he scores a hundred, like, I think, honestly, I'm thinking about boosting just getting him in because if he scores a hundred, I'm just going to just write, I'm just going to quit the app, delete the app, man. Seriously. Like, would you, if, if it took a boost to get him in, would you recommend listeners buy him?
00:57:19
Speaker
It's a tough one, Brass, a tough one, because the Sand and Smith doesn't overly excite me. But if you look at that Knights team on paper, it's pretty bloody good. And the strike all across the park. Dominant Young, hats off to him, a few roses as well. He got a fantastic score. He looks like a new man, 94 points, looked very destructive. Again, he could have got even more points to that smaller field, if you made that, I mentioned before, with that tackle in the corner.
00:57:47
Speaker
Marju looked very destructive. Bradman Best looked pretty good. Gagai's alright. So Ponga's going to have plenty of scoring opportunities. It's just when Fletcher Sharp was out there, my god, they just looked so much better. That's the only thing that scares me because Ponga was good in the second half, but wasn't great without Fletcher Sharp.
00:58:08
Speaker
That's my only, yeah, my only worry. Yeah. I want to talk about Senators because I've got touch football in about 12 minutes, I need leave. So I need to speed it up. Sorry, Tackles and Titties. Tackles and Titties, listeners.
00:58:22
Speaker
It does say freak in the sheet. So maybe that's the new thing. ill I'll merch it up at Magic Round, bruh. Tackles and Titties on the front. But let's talk Senators.
00:58:34
Speaker
Jesse Ramey and Adam, absolute pod move there. They did not go left. So guys like Cale Aroh, who were a hot commodity for most of the preseason. He didn't get much ball. And it all went to Jesse Raymond. And maybe that's because the left-hand defense with Brimson, Furmore, and the likes didn't look very good and they just kept going that way.
00:58:54
Speaker
Fair enough. But yeah, Raymond at 115. Is he an option? Yeah, but don't chase. Don't chase. If you've got Iro, dude, he's he's a gun. Keep him. Hold him. He'll... Facts.
00:59:07
Speaker
Obviously, Trollmere, 113 points. He was fantastic. But again, a lot of junk tries. Like, I think that score of 113 is a bit skewed.
00:59:18
Speaker
Thoughts? Yeah. just It's just such a low usage rate, you know? And I went, nah, I can fade him. You know, he's not going to score enough. But he's so efficient. Just absolutely hurt.
00:59:30
Speaker
ah He plays for us this is week. he He's never played well against him. 51, 36, 66, 53, 45, 67. There's 106 and a 51. you know But he's never scored well against him. at the same time, he's also never had so much fire power in his back line. yeah I reckon can just wait until round five to pick him up. yeah Toya's back as well, which is also worthy to note. And Toya did pretty good against him at New South Wales versus Queensland. yeah yeah So that's definitely something to note as well.
00:59:56
Speaker
um But he's definitely an option. He's definitely an option. Obviously, 43% of the whole entire comp own him. Cooler, next guy I want to talk about, 108 points. I was glazing him all offseason. I think he's arguably Manly's best outside back. wouldn't love wouldn't like sorry i would love to see Turbo at five eight Honestly, Turbo can be five eight any day of the week. He'd be Fletcher Sharp.
01:00:18
Speaker
But Kula at fullback, I was telling you, man, all offseason, he's just a gun. He's such a gun. He's such a good ball runner, a support player. And it' was good to see him pop up on both sides of the field because they realized that he's their best attacking weapon. so Wheels up cooler if you picked him. My God. There's so many other guys you could pick from in like Best, Shibasaki, Karaz obviously played well at Vegas, but he's got the buy this week. But cooler, very good. Thoughts?
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just hard to buy him when there's all those other guns you just mentioned earlier. Yeah. But if you had him yeah and you jumped on him, well done, man. Good job. Yeah. 100%. 1.6%, dude, that's the frustrating thing. like I dobbed ah dodged the Shibasaki score, which was good. But cooler, man, he was right there with Latrell Mitchell for me. So that could have been a great pod move. Tommy Jenkins, give his roses as well because Isaac Targo looks like he's been essentially dropped. He's out of favor. So um that's awesome for Jenkins. And he's a very good strike weapon in regards to the high kick. as well. He did so many good opportunities there. Good finisher, great speed, and obviously in that Panthers suffocating defence, it really lets their attack fire as well. And they, I think, dropped 16, 18 balls on the weekend as well. So they can complete more. Jenkins, wheels up for sure.
01:01:42
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. hundred percent Like, I put a waiver in for him, actually. That's how much I rate him, actually, because it's like what you said. He's at the end of all those sweet plays on the left, and then every time they kick on the fifth, they kick towards him, and he competes every single time. He's going to pick up so many tries, sis, just by batting him back, man, every single time.
01:02:02
Speaker
Yep. And again, at 600K or Justice Mid-Junder, only 0.5% owned. And again, winning team. We've always talked about that last year as well, Chris, that we try to get good players on winning teams. Penrith Panthers are definitely going there and about. But yeah, Sharkies, they scare me a little bit. Maybe watch and see. Obviously, ah RTS, he's been very good, 90 points, a couple of tries, could have got a couple more as well. sako And Osako as well, he got 79 points, two relevant guys from last year. Any thoughts on ah RTS or Osako? Osaka I'm always going to stay away from just because of that left-hand side. Finns always go left. Stay away from him. He'll go big at certain points. like He'll score like a hat-trick and he'll go 134, but then it's all those other weeks where he doesn't.
01:02:50
Speaker
It's not worth it. RTS, I said last week, I said, don't I don't think you want him on the wing. I think you want him in the center, of but boy, was I wrong. Yeah. Well done if you jumped on him. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:01
Speaker
And I think that obviously the biggest guy to note is our boy Herbie Farmworth. Didn't do much. Didn't do much. It was a very wet game and he still got 75 points. Happy I got him. Obviously didn't play that great, but they're versed in the Gold Coast Titans this week.
01:03:16
Speaker
So I think that's Faye Marnie and Jojo Fafita. And Howe. Yep. Scary. For the comic- Ilias there as well.
01:03:27
Speaker
um if you If there was a triple captain option, I would put the triple captain on him. I'd play it. yeah Yeah, yeah. Dude, it was awesome, man. Like, i was like, oh, man, he's not doing anything. And at the end, I was like, why did I buy him? You know, it's all because of last year's trauma.
01:03:44
Speaker
And at the end, 70, 70, whatever. You know, that freaking junk try that I complained about every last year on the pod. Bro, it's so good on this side of the, of the... of the yeah This side of it. Thank you. Cheap junk points there.
01:03:59
Speaker
And, man, Dolphins can't be any worse than they were last week. They have to be better. So, if it's a dry track in Brisbane... Good luck, Herbie Farmworth. He's going to be absolutely popping off. I want to make a quick mention to the right edge of the Rabbitohs with Campbell Graham. That also scares me as well because Jack Wyden actually played very well. Not super coach relevant, but gave Campbell Graham plenty a good ball and he finished. And Tor body definitely could be a contention up for the art the high ball.
01:04:33
Speaker
That gives me that Latrell Mitchell feeling like hesitancy, I guess you could say, but yeah. are thoughts on Campbell Graham? Yeah, that's two games that he scored tries, you know, and looked good, you know. Last year, again, I said last last week, he based 45 all year, zero tries.
01:04:50
Speaker
Oh, gee, but 45, 450K. Like, I think that, honestly, if you had to choose Luttrell or Graham, pick Graham, 100%, and then spend actually elsewhere.
01:05:02
Speaker
Oh, sorry, 200K. Somewhere, upgrade something else. Yeah. Yeah. You want hear my Smokey Podpay pod in the centers? Tell me. Just to finish it up. Tony Staggs, man. 3.7%. know, Peasant really struggled defending the left, man. Absolutely. It also a could be Shiver as well. And then once Penrith, you know, now that they've got Penrith out of the way, dude, I'm going to repeat those fixtures again for everybody who missed them. It's Parramatta this week.
01:05:26
Speaker
Melbourne, Finns, Gold Coast, Cowboys, and West Tigers. Yeah. Dude. Yep. Buy one of the two. Buy one of the two.
01:05:38
Speaker
Couldn't agree more. Or just free. Couldn't agree more. or horse um I want to quickly go through hookers before we have to wrap up the podcast, mate, because I forgot to mention, i was doing some reading in the news, but they've changed. We didn't explicitly state this last week, I don't think, but they've changed the six again rule. So instead of being from the 40 meter line to the 40 meter line, so you got that 20 meters for the six again. Now they're going for the 20 meter line to the 20 meter line.
01:06:03
Speaker
And now... The ruck speed, it's gone from, I think, five, six again calls per game to just over eight per game. So that's significantly helping hookers who are quite athletic. Brake Blaley didn't do too much in regards to like breaking the line, but he's been sniffing the whole entire game. 82 points. Harry Grant, two tries, went off with cramp. Thank God because I faded him. Yeah, he got 94 points. Damian Cook.
01:06:30
Speaker
Again, we talk about athleticism out of the hooker position. 105 points. Sam Burrell's got a try, I'm not going debate him. But those top three boys, and I was pretty high on Damien Cook in the offseason, to be fair. What are your thoughts on those three boys and the hooker position as a whole? You're pretty lucky, Chris.
01:06:47
Speaker
Yeah, I started with two premium hookers, actually. I've got both Mike Bailey and Harry Grant. Oh man, it's awesome. you know Especially when Mike Bailey on Monday morning and he got those 20 unicorn points. That was awesome, yeah.
01:06:59
Speaker
Actually, picking two premium hookers is definitely an option this year. Also, very briefly as well, like even if you didn't pick them, once again, like Jay Simpkin, 59, you're laughing. you know read We were laughing last week, we're two weeks with Reed Miney, 51.
01:07:16
Speaker
Dude, Jay Simpkin, 50-night. Dude, you can't go wrong. Pick anybody at hooker. They're great. All of them are great. they're gonna yeah There's just so much upside. They're all undervalued. Yeah, if you pick cheese, you're you're very sad, right? You're very sad this week.
01:07:31
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. yeah you're very upset i aent And I think we'll just quickly touch on the front rowers as well because we went stack the pack mentality and that sort of backfired in regards to my team structure because Tino played 49 minutes.
01:07:46
Speaker
That crippled my score because that's where a lot of my cash went. Very tempted to raise trade Tino, but Trey Mooney. Fantastic base, good minutes, good roll. Keon, same thing. Corey Horsbar, same thing. Toby Couchman, same thing. All reliable. Not go to probably get you 100 points. But Trey Mooney, only at 42% own. If you haven't got him, get him in. He's 440k.
01:08:09
Speaker
Yep. Even Hopgood as well. You know, 54 and 50 units. So much good base. Hold him. Yeah, actually, tro I'm going to give the overall brief this. Keep all of them. but you want to sell any on any and any forward in your flex spot, such as TNL Carrigan. The new six again rules are just driving up master score. It's going to benefit full backs and half backs despite the stat changes. You can't justify a ah ah forward in the slot.
01:08:36
Speaker
That is, if you're thinking about selling a forward that you didn't, that underperformed this week, oh, sorry, last week, only sell them if they're in your flex spot. If they're not in your flex spot, keep them.
01:08:48
Speaker
Yeah, definitely for one more week. I think you nailed that on the head, mate, because I was like, I'm rage trading Tino. I'm going to rage trade as AEO, like two guys have been pretty super coach relevant for many years now, but give one more chance.
01:09:02
Speaker
But if no they don't pop off, we've got, again, we've talked about all the second-row cheapies available. You can get a Chan, Noah Martin, Lasati, whatever, and then all of a sudden you can go straight from a Daniel Atkinson to a Nico Hines, a Cleary or whatever.
01:09:18
Speaker
Or a PES it up to a Fletcher Sharp even. Like, that's another thing you could talk about. Yeah, so much to dissect in that regard. But I think the stack the pack mentality at this stage, done.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yep, agreed. Yep. Is there any other guys before we wrap up the podcast, mate? Let's go straight into VCs and Cs. Yep. Okay, so for me, well, personally for me, obviously we've got that Thursday game, Parramatta Broncos.
01:09:47
Speaker
Racey Walsh, vice-captaincy for sure. And then I've sort of talked myself out of it now because we just talked about it before, but Newcastle Knights, Manly is an option with Pongo as my captaincy late in the round.
01:10:00
Speaker
But I think I'm going to go that Suncorp Stadium game. It should be dry track. Dolphins versus Titans. Captaincy on Herbie Farmworth. Lock it in, Ryan.
01:10:11
Speaker
We've got the same VC and and C. You shouldn't have anything else, guys. It's just they're just too juicy this week. Yeah. Do you have a loopable guy? Like I've got Steven Crichton, for example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got enough Ethan Roberts.
01:10:24
Speaker
Yeah. I knew was worth it. I'm going to have less team value, but it's I knew it was worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, guys, is there anyone else we can think of as a captaincy option? Maybe Tedesco against South Sydney. Again, he's a hard-working type of fella. um Yeah. Could be a good VC option. Cleary against the Sharks.
01:10:48
Speaker
Bro. 99. 69, 170, 79, 68, 109, 9,630, mate. The man does not miss against the Sharkies and against Nico too, you know. Yeah. And also Turbo against the Knights. That one scares me and vice versa. Pongaverse. Manly.
01:11:03
Speaker
Yeah. Definitely. But yeah, if you're a Reese Walsh owner, 100% VC on him and then either a Turbo, a Ponga, or a Herbie Primworth. Teddy Desco as well. Yep.
01:11:16
Speaker
Or Falongo as well. Plenty of Yeah, Vice-Captain Walsh. Get him in your team. But I think Herbie Farmworth, guys, he's the man. He's going to absolutely decimate my Gold Coast Titans. I'm ready for an onslaught. I'll be crying on one hand and then printing Supercoach Cash in the other. Yeah, happy Supercoaching, everybody.
01:11:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's the podcast, guys. I've got to go to TRL. I'm actually versing Gary, Jake, and Morgan. So Paul and I, we're we're going to bully some kids tonight.
01:11:45
Speaker
This is what's going happen. I'm going to clip it up. I'm preempting this. You're done. Enjoy your super coaching, guys. Bye.