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Sooooo many returns! RAW and Smackdown were great! Sheena and Phil discuss all this plus their recent NXT elite hauls, how to find them, and how to get us to find them for you! Also, Sheena reveals why she HATES Samoa Joe and we giveaway a free Samoa Joe elite to our favorite hater!
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Roman Reigns' Return and Phil & Sheena's Updates
00:00:00
Speaker
The good news is I'm in remission, y'all.
00:00:41
Speaker
So with that being said, the Big Dog is back! The Big Dog is back and so is the Chick Foley show. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We are live.
00:01:10
Speaker
We're coming off a pretty awesome week of Raw and SmackDown here as I am live from the in-laws suite, the Jimmy Seafood temporary studios. It's Phil Gentile, AKA the hot take kid. I have Sheena Phelps on the line from Honolulu. Sheena, how are you doing tonight? Pretty good, man. Pretty good. Like I said, it's definitely a warm, warm breezy day over here on the island as most days are. So, you know, no day in paradise.
00:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, I hate you for that, but it's starting at least, it's at least getting late, like brighter later in the day, which is nice here. Yeah, we got daylight savings time coming up for you guys. Yeah, you don't get that, do you? No, we don't, we don't participate in such nonsense. So it's always, what time does the sun go down? Like seven or eight there?
00:01:54
Speaker
It changes a little bit, but we just don't, we don't, we don't observe, um, the time change. Like you'll notice like in the summer, it does, um, you know, we have longer days and stuff, but, uh, yeah, it's just, we don't observe the different changes. I think there's one stays like Arizona. I think Arizona is the only other state, um, in the United States that doesn't do.
00:02:11
Speaker
daylight savings time, I can't remember. Well, I don't blame them because it sucks when it gets dark at like 4.55 in the evening and you're leaving work and it's already black, you know, pitch black out. Yeah. I remember those days. That was the worst. Like here you go to work and it's dark. And then by the time you get off work, it's dark. Like those are the worst days. Like that's like when that seasonal affective disorder starts to like kick in.
00:02:32
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But on the bright news, we have some brand new Patreons. I want to read these names off because we got a bunch of them here. I want you to see if you can pick up the trend in these names. We got Michael Gottschalk, Mike Fugazi, Michael Thompson.
00:02:49
Speaker
Whoa, getting a little Michael here. Michael Flores? No way. I swear to fucking God, this is true. Nicholas Michael, we threw a last name in there. And Kaitlyn Jonathan Hill, not to be confused with Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I don't know if he has
Patreon Perks and Wrestling Figures Discussion
00:03:09
Speaker
a. We just call him Michael. Yeah. For chits and gigs.
00:03:12
Speaker
Maybe I was gonna say is he already gave us his middle name We must have known that we were gonna see if his middle name was Michael, but thank you guys Bob Zegler as well is a $10 main event patreon so he's gonna get exclusive episodes articles and videos as well as AJ Sawyer Dustin Sadak Trey White and John Mazzafaro our main event patreons if you guys want to sign up for that it's patreon.com slash chick Foley show she and I did a Best gimmicks bracket and a two-parter they're each about an hour long
00:03:42
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Those are exclusive for the Patreons, and you can find that on there. We're going to do some more, actually put a poll up, and it's tied up 50-50. So if you're a Patreon member, go to the Patreon page and vote on what our next episode is going to be, if you would please. But if you have any questions or concerns, or you need some advice on buying figures, or anything that you want to shout out to us, it's askchickfoli at gmail.com, or you can shoot a DM over to Sheena on Instagram, at chickfoli, or I run the Twitter account.
00:04:11
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at Chick Foley show and you just did an unbox-a-mania episode on the Patreon as well. What was that about?
00:04:20
Speaker
Yeah, we did a retro fest hacksaw Jim Duggan. Just a dope figure. I was excited. So I unboxed him and then compared him to the hacksaw figures that we already had. So it is live over on Patreon. So make sure you check that out. And if you haven't, I've unboxed lots of good stuff over there. And guys, I have some serious boxes stacking up over here that I'm about to record and unbox for you guys. So stay tuned for that.
00:04:42
Speaker
And we have a giveaway later in the show for an Elite Samoa Joe figure. What's the, just go over the details on that, cause we'll get to that, you know, the kind of the contest later on. Yeah. So we, we hosted our first ever, the Chick-Fully show, Hater Egg Classic, where we're giving away at an Elite 64 Samoa Joe figure. And we had our, all of our Chick-Fully fam over on Instagram send us in, you know, the,
00:05:07
Speaker
the most entertaining, funniest, um, you know, stories about who their most hated wrestler is and why. And we got
WWE Recaps and Roman Reigns' Impact
00:05:15
Speaker
so many submissions, but we did narrow it down to three. So I'm excited to read those three and announce our winner at the end of the show. Um, and then I am going to let you guys in on probably chick Foley's, um, you know, best kept secret as to why I freaking hate
00:05:33
Speaker
a a
00:05:49
Speaker
We did get those seven new Patreons this week mainly because I've been posting all type of pictures of the NXT elites I've been getting. I'll unveil, again, the best way to get those both on the Target app and in store as we do our Go Figure segment later in the show. But let's get inside the squared circle here. A awesome week of Raw and SmackDown. We've been pretty down on the product overall and not something that we wanna be. We're not here to hate on the WWE. We've both been fans.
00:06:17
Speaker
literally our entire life, but this was a great week of Raw and SmackDown, man. It got me really excited going forward. I don't know, this is because Bruce Prichard is taking over the creative. I don't know if he's going to have that fast of an impact on things, but it was pretty fun to watch both shows. Yeah, I agree. It was fun. There was a lot of new faces and stuff, which, you know, it's kind of strange seeing all of this activity happening right
00:06:41
Speaker
it's WrestleMania season. Like typically, you know, it's like the, this, they take the road less traveled and they just keep on keeping on with the same old people. But, um, you know, we, we wanted different matches and we're getting different matches. I have some, I hate to say that I have some qualms with the way that they're doing certain things. Um, I do have a little bit of a, some, you know, some negative side to it, but it's only because I love the NXT guys. They got called up so much that I wish that they were being used better. But other than that,
00:07:09
Speaker
I feel like like this week, especially raw was awesome.
00:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think SmackDown, too. Let's get into Raw first, though. It starts off with the bang. Over the weekend, I think it was, maybe Sunday or Monday morning, we heard that Roman Reigns was going to make an announcement. You heard at the beginning of the show here on the intro that he is back. And what do you see for him as a WrestleMania match? It's going to be tough to put something together as far as a long-term feud. But is it Dean Ambrose? I mean, we saw those four.
00:07:42
Speaker
kind of a four on four situation develop a little bit on Raw with Elias joining up with Corbin and Bobby Lashley. Yeah, I heard them called the, the mid Carter's of doom. Somebody called him. I was like, Oh my God, that is so, that is like their perfect faction name. Like the mid Carter's of doom or the mid Carter, the evil mid Carter's or something like that. It was really funny. Um, as far as WrestleMania, I don't know. I have such,
00:08:07
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mixed emotions because obviously I'm like so happy that Roman is okay he's healthy he's in remission I'm so excited like I got emotional on Monday like when he came out and just the thunderous like pop and like applause and cheers like
00:08:24
Speaker
I was so emotional because like that's what he's deserved all along in my opinion and he was finally getting it and I love that he was just soaking it in and I think his segment like ran over like I could tell by the next segment was kind of rushed I think but I think he deserves all of that just to be able to like sit out there and like soak all that up and walk around and dap up the fans and
00:08:44
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you know, take the selfies and stuff. Um, but again, I'm conflicted because my boy Seth Rollins is in the main event of WrestleMania and I don't want anything to come between that. You know, like I don't want, like, I don't want Roman to come in because I feel like I've just like torn, you know, it's like, like picking your, your favorite kid or your favorite pet, you know, like what do you do?
00:09:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be great to see him out. He's obviously gonna wrestle WrestleMania, but it'd be nice to have him in a match that doesn't showcase him as a main event type guy and have him. Imagine how stacked this WrestleMania card is gonna be. We don't know what he's gonna do. We don't know what AJ Styles is gonna do.
00:09:24
Speaker
I mean, it's kind of good and it's kind of bad because they're going to put him somewhere. But it's nice to have him out of the main event picture, but still have him around and not be like, why is Roman not in the main event? You know, it's just he's there. Everyone's going to be happy for it. And he's probably going to squash somebody and he'll probably have a couple of feuds and then get back into the main title picture. But I'm excited. I think maybe Dean Ambrose, I don't know if they have set up.
00:09:49
Speaker
Yeah, I was thinking maybe Dean Ambrose. I thought it would be fun if he was like a special guest referee for Brock and Seth, you know? Yeah, that's a good, that's a good call. That would be kind of cool. I think, honestly though, I think the only way that like WWE could screw this up is if they thrust him into the main event picture right away. You know what I'm saying? I know, I understand that he had to relinquish the universal title. Um,
00:10:14
Speaker
Like an unexpectedly and he didn't lose it and he does deserve a shot to win it back. But I feel like now is not the time. You know what I'm saying? I feel like they should let it happen organically so that the crowd is behind him. They stay behind him, you know, and then he just has this mega baby face run. You know, I think he deserves that. And I feel like, you know, we know the, the WWE audience is very fickle, fickle. So we don't want them to turn on him.
00:10:42
Speaker
Right as he's made this you know miraculous comeback and the worst part of Social media and this age that we live in is now people on Twitter Doubting that Roman Reigns ever had leukemia and not knowing how he came back in four months to the point where the leukemia Foundation or something Twitter account had to come out and basically say hey you idiots There's different types of leukemia. There's different. You know
00:11:08
Speaker
degrees of severity and not everyone loses their hair and not everyone gains or loses weight or gains weight and it's like come on man it's they there's no way a company would would do that there's no reason to do that to to to any you know even if it is a scripted tv show like the guy has had leukemia in the past and i can you know i've heard from multiple people that it was for real and you know the fact that he's not allowed to film a movie while he's out like you know i mean
00:11:36
Speaker
Life doesn't stop when you have cancer or any of these things. Yeah. It's just that entitlement. And it's just like, it's people thinking that they know everything, you know, and it is just, it is so annoying. That is the annoying thing about the, the internet is like, everybody has an opinion. And I'm like, where did you get your medical degree? You know what I'm saying? Like, what do you, what do you actually know about leukemia? Do you even know what leukemia is? Like what kind of cancer it is? Like probably not, you know, they just like,
00:12:00
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to people like that that are so small minded like it's just like they only have one view of how it can play out you know and yeah it's so annoying but i can't believe that the um you know leukemia foundation actually had to come out and say it's pretty sad how embarrassing you know
00:12:17
Speaker
2019, that's where we are in our lives here. But it was great to see him back. It was an awesome surprise, even though we kind of knew if it was bad news, it wasn't going to be announced in the middle of a ring in front of a bunch of fans. But the fans were great at Raw. They really supported him. They cheered for him. He was up there
WrestleMania Speculations and Storylines
00:12:33
Speaker
for, I think, 17 or 18 minutes. It was a while. He was up there a long time.
00:12:37
Speaker
I like when they do that because it's a three-hour show and if it's something that captures the crowd and it's not just people coming out to theme music back to back to back to backwards, the McMahons and all this crap, give Roman the stake and let him talk. I'm excited and I think the side effect of this is he's going to be over now, at least for a little while. When do you think the fans start booing him? Because they're going to start booing him again.
00:13:03
Speaker
Obviously. Yeah, I think it's not going to be long, dude. I mean, as bad as I hate to say that, I feel like it's not going to be long before they turn on him again. Because inevitably, the same people that doubted that he even had cancer are going to start their same old narrative, where it's like, oh, he's being pushed down our throats. He goes away and then comes back, and they're just immediately pushing him down our throats. And there's been guys that have been here the whole time.
00:13:29
Speaker
It's just going to be the same old thing. Um, I think now, I think, I think people, I think it opened a lot of people's eyes because raw has been so lacking over the last several months. Like when you take a superstar, like we take it for granted because we saw Roman Reigns every week, right? But when you take a superstar like that off of TV for an extended period of time, it was October, right? When he left October. Yeah. So since October, we have not had Roman Reigns on our television sets.
00:13:57
Speaker
And you felt it. You have felt the lack of star power. You have felt the lack of storyline, all these things with Raw. And I think now people truly understand how somebody like Roman Reigns really impacts the product and everybody around him. He brings people up to a different level. And as much as they would not want to admit that, that's the truth.
00:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And the show definitely felt like it lacked star power with Adam. So I'm glad to have him back. I've always been a Roman Reigns fan and wasn't always a fan of the way he was presented on TV, but it seems like everything I've heard is a class act. I'm glad he's back out there. Yeah, we watched Roman develop though. I think that's the biggest thing is like we watched Roman develop into a superstar. Like when he first came up, you know, from the shield from NXT, from all those things, like he, like.
00:14:45
Speaker
We watched him grow into the superstar that he is, right? Like he wasn't amazing right from the bat. I mean, he had incredible talent, but I mean, he had to work on his mic skills. He had to work on his promo. Like, you know, like we saw him struggle through those things, but by the end, I mean, he's a freaking star, you know? Um, and I think it's just those early days, people just get hooked on like, Oh, he sucks. He sucks. And they just remember those one or two promos that he botched. And like that, they think that that's his legacy, you know?
00:15:10
Speaker
Yep, for sure. Other than that, we saw another big return at the end of the show during the Nature Boys birthday party where Big Dave Batista came out of the back, dragging Ric Flair and setting up probably a Triple H WrestleMania match. What did you think of Big Dave coming back?
00:15:33
Speaker
I mean, I loved it. I freaking loved it. I was legitimately shocked and surprised for the first time. And like, I cannot remember how long, like, you know, I can't, I can't remember the last time I said that about WWE programming, you know, because honestly, like everything now is so announced. Like, you know, they do, like, they like tell you like, Oh, John Cena is going to come back tonight with an announcement. Oh, Roman Reigns is making his return with a big announcement. You know, like you always know who's coming back and what's happening, you know? And I understand like WWE,
00:16:00
Speaker
has to be on top of it, because with all the social media outlets and stuff, stuff's going to get out. Somebody's going to say, oh my god, I saw Batista at Raw before he actually debuted. So I mean, I know they have to be on top of those things. But man, I was totally caught off guard by this. I thought for sure 100% it was going to be a Becky angle. Like Rick Flair, they did all this stuff to make you legitimately feel like they were doing a Rick Flair birthday celebration.
00:16:29
Speaker
And Becky was going to come out and like have have Rick flair in the arm bar in the back when he didn't come out. And then when I saw this guy like pulling this cameraman across, I was like, who was that? And then, oh, my God, I thought it was awesome.
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, it would have been cool if it was Becky, but I like Big Dave coming back. I think he adds in just a little bit more star power to WrestleMania. And it would be cool if they just did something where maybe Rick was just drunk and he was actually just kind of helping him. He was just dragging him to the ring or something. He just did like a swerve. I didn't beat him up. He was just, I found him like that.
00:17:03
Speaker
Well, it's funny because I actually I was just joking like when they were calling all the legends out You know like steamboat and all those guys and like I was like I wonder if I was like where's the wonder where Batista's at? you know and I said that to heal husband and then all of a sudden like he appears on my TV and I was like What the hell like I cannot believe it, but I knew I after after smackdown 1000 I've been waiting for for this angle, but like I didn't I
00:17:28
Speaker
I don't know why it was just not in the forefront of my mind. After they had that stare down at SmackDown 1000, I was like, okay, cool, they're teasing us. But they've teased us with stuff like that before and never really pulled the trigger on it. But I'm glad they're doing it. I'm excited to see if he's still got it in the ring. I mean, I know he can kick ass in galaxies far away, but I'm just wondering how much ring rust.
00:17:52
Speaker
there will be. I'm sure he's been training his ass off. If he's going to show up, I'm sure he's going to be prepared. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But yeah, that is a good question. Tell me I'm crazy that I'm already kind of sick of the Becky Lynch thing. Am I? Okay. Am I, am I over the board here? Am I, am I as total Mark? No, no, no, no. You're not. Um, because I don't, here's the thing. I am still so excited to see
00:18:19
Speaker
Becky and Rhonda at WrestleMania. Like I'm still super pumped to see that match. The buildup though is really starting to like, like, like nag, like wear on me. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm just like, Oh, like Becky keeps coming back every week. And I'm like, keep her off for a couple of weeks, right? Like literally legitimately be suspended.
00:18:38
Speaker
right? And now the narrative has changed. Like it was this like blood feud, right? Between Becky and Rhonda, like, you know, I hate you. Like I'm going to get your title. Like it was, you know, this whole thing about Rhonda being presented everything with a silver spoon and Becky being like the scrappy underdog. And like they had this feud against one another and now it's turned into like some sort of like women's, you know, we're doing this for women everywhere and like all this stuff. And you know, we need to do the right thing. Like that promo that Rhonda gave to Stephanie, I was like,
00:19:08
Speaker
When did it become this? You know what I'm saying? Like this title is for, for women and we need to make the best decisions and all of this. I was, I don't like where it's going. You know, I think it's turned into something like it's gone on too long and it's turned into something that it wasn't originally anticipated to be.
00:19:24
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like the best my favorite part of the thing right now is just the the super cocky asshole Charlotte aspect of the match You know like you want to see her get her ass kicked and I'm excited that she's in this match if anybody's gonna have to be in it because I don't know I just Ron Ronda can't carry it on the mic so they're gonna have to have someone week to week kind of instigate things and it'll be interesting to see what happens at Fastlane, but
00:19:50
Speaker
Becky Lynch gets arrested, and I'm sure they're going to make shirts of that and all that kind of stuff. It was very similar to a stone cold angle, which was kind of where they're going. Yeah, they're definitely playing that part up. But I do agree. I feel like at this point, they're making Becky annoying. And it's not so, you don't feel that same energy when you see her. And I think it's, and we still have six weeks to mania, so I'm like,
00:20:20
Speaker
man like I hope it doesn't fully dwindle out like we're really gonna have to bring some power back to this thing you know yep but that being said I'm not crapping on the match like I'm still still oh yeah that match is gonna be sick and deserves to be a main event yeah yeah a women's main event at WrestleMania like I'm super pumped for that but yeah I am the buildup is just kind of like wearing on me a little bit
00:20:42
Speaker
Anything else you want to touch on from Raw? We saw your favorite segment, Moment of Bliss, where they're fully just making Alexa Bliss just a diva. What is happening?
00:20:57
Speaker
she comes out and I was like, ooh, Alexa's got a little fire because she's like, if you want a legitimate, you know, she was like, she started like going in on Rhonda saying, don't let the, you know, red carpet that they rolled out for you hit you on the, on the butt on the way out, you know, like just, and she's like, if you want a legitimate competitor who will be there and show up for you, you know, no matter what, or that you can depend on, like I'm right here. And I was like, okay, Alexa, okay. Um, and then she, then Finn comes out and she starts talking about his abs and I'm, I'm like,
00:21:25
Speaker
wait a minute these are like two opposite ends of the spectrum here you know and it was so weird she's like well if you show me your abs I'll show you my alluding to that she was gonna show him her boobs and I was I just don't like that Alexa you know and believe me boobs don't offend me like I don't like that's not that that's not the issue I'm not like a feminist it's like oh you shouldn't show your boobs like whatever it's like that's not that's not who she who her character is I mean I could see someone else saying that could be a like a Nikki Bella line or something or
00:21:52
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't fit her character. And we haven't seen her like that before. And it's been like week after week with EC3 and then now with Finn. And didn't she? There was somebody else, I thought. But yeah, it's just been very strange. Paul Heyman. Paul Heyman.
Veterans, Returns, and Roster Growth
00:22:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah, she was talking about his big, beautiful bald head. No, that segment that they did in the back when she was like half topless. Oh, yeah. They walked in on her. And I was like, this is so strange.
00:22:21
Speaker
I don't know where this is going or what this is going to build up to, but I don't like it. I do like, I like how Corey Graves was basically playing like the Jerry the King of Lola. We're like, no, Leo Rush, what are you doing? Get out of here. Like, you know, it's pretty funny. Did you notice that Sting gave Seth, I mean, I don't know if it was intentional or maybe I just noticed it because I'm like, you know, a huge Seth Mark, but like I was like, damn, Sting like gave Seth the cold shoulder on the way out when they were calling all the legends out. Like he was dapping everybody up, you know, and then all of a sudden like he just like turned his back.
00:22:51
Speaker
to Seth and I was like, ouch, you know? Oh, no, I didn't notice that. I didn't notice that he took a chop from Ricky the Dragon, which is funny. Yeah. And then I did see Sting stop and said a couple of words to No Way Jose and somebody who else did he say something to? Bobby Rood.
00:23:10
Speaker
So funny is that yeah, he's like talking to Bobby rude and no way Jose and then Seth is right there at the end of the the ramp and he just like turns his back like no five no shake no eye contact nothing and
00:23:24
Speaker
You know, as far as I know, they're cool. I mean, I know the whole thing with like, you know, Seth injuring, Sting and all that. But from what I understood after that, like they were, they were cool. So I don't know if it was just complete coincidence and maybe Sting just legitimately didn't see him. But from my perspective, I was like, Oh, what? Between him and Shawn Michaels, those guys are looking old, man. I mean, I know I'm getting older, but
00:23:46
Speaker
No, he'll husband and I were just talking about that. I was like, I was like, we have to, like, they have to change Sean Michaels music, dude. Like just make it, just make it instrumental because
00:23:57
Speaker
There is something like it causes some sort of like dissonance in my brain when I'm like seeing Shawn Michaels skip down the ramp and then I'm hearing, I'm just a sexy boy, sexy boy. Like there's like, it just does not fit, you know? And like, I'm like, I would be totally cool with them doing just an instrumental of it, but the vocals, like the lyrics, like they gotta go.
00:24:18
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't fit when you're 50 years old or something, whatever. He's probably more than that, though. Yeah, and he looks every bit of it, too. Yeah, he's aged in the last five years. He's aged quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, like, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat looks better than Shawn Michaels, you know what I'm saying? It was very noticeable. I mean, it's been noticeable for a while, but it was very noticeable the other night.
00:24:44
Speaker
over to SmackDown, where I really liked how they kicked things off with the return of Kevin Owens, who seemed like he was going to be a face from all the iPhone promos he was posting with his kids. And maybe he will be. I don't know. He comes out, doesn't really say a word, and replaces Kofi as a number one contender at the Fastlane Championship match against Daniel Bryan. But I like where this is going. I don't know what they're going to do here. But I'm assuming this is to put Kofi in the title picture
00:25:14
Speaker
at WrestleMania. What are your thoughts? Yeah, I have mixed feelings because I don't like the way it happened. I thought was so
00:25:24
Speaker
Ridiculous because we literally just saw that angle the same thing Vince McMahon coming out and announcing that he's switching a main event at WrestleMania just because he freaking feels like it and he doesn't feel the contender is worthy like when he replaced Becky with Charlotte and then he does the exact same thing with Kofi and KO and I just thought it was like very unoriginal and kind of strange that they did it twice, you know, like they did that same thing twice. Um,
00:25:54
Speaker
But I do like the fact that this is going to, I was worried if they fought it fast lane, that, that Kofi mania was not going to happen. Right. That we were going to get too much Kofi and then it was going to lose steam and not go into mania. But with this angle coming in one, we get KO back, which is super exciting. And then two, it gives us that break from instead of having, you know, Kofi Lane, we're going to have Kofi mania.
00:26:18
Speaker
the
00:26:26
Speaker
Interesting wrinkle, you know, and then they would have kind of had like a not a few but like a you know Hey, man, are we boys or what and then at the end maybe at WrestleMania? Biggie helps them win the title or something But you know it would cause you know, not a breakup but kind of hinted a breakup because I mean they've been around for a long time together and you know, I think Biggie deserves it just as much as Kofi does I love to see Biggie in the title picture, but I
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah, I did. I think Biggie would be a good singles competitor, but I definitely don't want to see the new day break up because to me, like even I don't feel like any of their singles runs would be as good without each other. Do you know what it is? That makes sense. Like even as a faction, I feel like even like if Kofi goes on this singles run as the champion or whatever.
00:27:10
Speaker
he still needs the new day as his like hype men. You know, I feel like it just adds a different level of, um, just excitement and fun around those guys. And I, I don't want to see them break up, but I loved how Daniel Bryan just sat there in the, in that chair, like, like all this craziness is going around. You know what I'm saying? Like the new day comes out. There's all this pomp and circumstance and like they're, they're jumping on the, the, you know, the term buckles and like throwing pancakes.
00:27:38
Speaker
And Daniel Bryan is just sitting there like so still and just like watching all of this. And even when Vince McMahon comes out and announces that KO is taking his place, like he's just like, so just like,
00:27:52
Speaker
can tell he's really thinking you know and he played it so well I was like god Daniel Bryan is so awesome like he is just so amazing and just such a freaking professional you know um so I loved everything about that segment and I'm hoping that they that they do it well and both guys come out looking better KO comes out looking better and um Kofi comes out looking better but did you notice that Shane said
00:28:16
Speaker
that Kofi has been an overnight success for the past 11 years. What does that mean? I got to find that for the outro. That's a great quote. Yeah. Oh, I said, yeah. He's like, he's been an overnight success for the past 11 years. And I was like, that's not what that means. I don't think you think that means what it means, what it think it means.
00:28:39
Speaker
We did see the return of the Hardy boys in a already crowded Smackdown tag division. But it was good to see Matt Hardy back out there. And this is something good for Jeff to put him somewhere. And we have a glut of tag teams now on Smackdown. They go over the bar. And the Swanton bomb he hit on, Seamus, was not a shoot. It was a shoot, Swanton bomb. He just landed right on top of him.
00:29:06
Speaker
And he's sailing over top of them, man. But what do you make of this? I'm assuming they're going to do some sort of four way round robin type of tag team match for the titles, because you've got a ton of tag teams now on Smack. I can't even name all of them.
00:29:20
Speaker
Well, yeah. So you got the Hardy boys back. And now you've got, well, I mean, obviously these guys haven't been brand specific, but you've got like Alistair Black and Ricochet as a tag team too. So yeah, you're right. I mean, it's just getting more crowded and more crowded. So they've got to do something with these guys. And I'm excited to see the Hardy boys back. And I'm going to touch on the Ricochet, Alistair Black thing in just a second. But I mean,
00:29:48
Speaker
did we really need them back like i feel like i feel bad saying that but did we need the hardy boys no they sell a ton of merch i'm sure ton of yeah i didn't think about that yeah they probably do sell a
00:30:01
Speaker
I mean I put them on raw and you know put half these guys on raw and just give them something to do You know it's but yeah with the usos and the bar and all these tag teams It's getting crying you already and you're putting together tag teams still with the Mcmiz and the rusev Nakamura tag teams Yeah, it's it is getting crowded. We saw our truth do an open challenge, which was pretty funny. Oh my gosh That was to me
00:30:26
Speaker
That was the highlight of SmackDown Live. I thought that was legitimately one of the best segments of the night. This is why you need people like R-Truth. Talk about underrated.
00:30:40
Speaker
Yeah, there are the, there are the smarts out there that feel like everybody should have a chance at the main event picture. But like, this is why you need people that are like mid Carter's and comic relief because he brought so much just levity to, to the show. Um, and when he was talking about John Cena and like everything he said was like so funny, like it, like everything he said hit, you know, and then he did the five knuckle shuffle. Um, and he won, he retained against freaking Andrade and, uh,
00:31:10
Speaker
Rey Mysterio. Was it Rey Mysterio, right? Rey Mysterio? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Andrade and Rey Mysterio. And, uh, I mean, that is like, that says so much. Like, I just thought it was the coolest thing because I mean, let's be real. Like those guys are way more like athletically gifted than, than our truth. Um, but dude, I thought it was awesome and I'm hoping, my hope is I saw, I read an article and I was like, Oh my God, this would be like the most amazing segment of WrestleMania.
00:31:37
Speaker
Since Cena really doesn't have a place at WrestleMania, if R-Truth retains the US title all the way to Mania, and he does an open challenge, because he's always referencing Cena. What would Cena do in doing all those things? This isn't the first time he's done that? I haven't.
00:31:52
Speaker
I haven't seen him do this before. It's a cool gimmick. Yeah, it was really cool. Carmel was like, well, John Cena would fight both of them. And he was like, oh, he's really brave. I thought that was really funny. But if he does an open challenge at Mania and John Cena answers the open challenge, I think that would be the perfect spot for our truth. And even if he loses, I think it would just be super cool.
00:32:19
Speaker
Yeah, I was expecting the title to change hands here because I would love to see a Mysterio Andrade situation at WrestleMania for the title. But that didn't happen. Yeah, for sure. And I'm sure it will. I don't see truthfully, no pun intended. I don't see R-Truth carrying it all the way through Mania. I'm pretty sure one of those two guys is going to get the title.
00:32:47
Speaker
In my mind, I'm fantasy booking our truth to have his WrestleMania moment. What's your thoughts on this Aleister Black Ricochet tag team match? So these guys came up together and they're being packaged as a tag team for now. They keep winning though, which is good. You don't like the direction they're going with them here. They're just kind of treading water, obviously.
00:33:10
Speaker
No, I don't like it at all. Like I, Aleister Black, like why is Aleister Black tagged up with Ricochet of all people? You know what I'm saying? Like Aleister Black is a loner. He is a lone wolf. Like he is dark and mysterious and he has, he's supposed to have a mystique, you know, and just be this like, you know,
00:33:29
Speaker
just brooding character. And here he is in the middle of the ring, like, you know, high fiving and hugging Ricochet. And just to me, it just like everything I've learned about Aleister Black up into this point in NXT. It's like, this is a totally different character, you know? And I guess if you'd never watched NXT, like it doesn't matter. But for those of us who are NXT watchers,
00:33:53
Speaker
It's so strange to see him just like being in this tag team and being all like, you know, jolly. And they did awesome. Like, I mean, the guys like put on a freaking show and like, they, they definitely pop the audience with their, you know, like aerial moves and all of those things, but still like, I don't, I just don't like it. Like, I don't think, why is Alex your black part of a tag team? Like he needs to be a singles competitor.
00:34:17
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's going to need to turn heel. He just would be too perfect as a heel right now. I think that's where they're going with this. They're going to split these guys up or do something like that. But yeah, it makes sense just to get them exposure to the main roster crowd and get people to know what they can do before you kind of put them in a program with someone.
00:34:42
Speaker
I see where you're coming from, but after WrestleMania, I'm sure they have big plans for them. They're just kind of gonna be here, just kind of a training session or something. But I would like to see them do more, but I can kind of see where they're going with this.
00:34:59
Speaker
Yeah, I just want meaningful storylines for these guys. Like I just don't want them to, you know, fall into obscurity because, you know, they don't get over, like, you know, if they don't get over as a tag team, then they're going to people are, they're going to be like, Oh, well then these guys aren't over with the audience. Like we're not going to put them on TV when in reality, like that's not who they are. And that's not who they should be. You know, like if you give these guys a meaningful storyline, they could kill it.
00:35:22
Speaker
You know, but if you're just throwing them out there every week on both shows to like wrestle the existing people that are already there. And I feel weird saying that because I wanted new exciting matches and I'm excited to watch those just straight wrestling matches. Right? Like I, I think tag, I like tag team wrestling. Um, but I just, I feel like when they just took all the top talent from NXT and just like scraped it off the top and like tossed it into
00:35:50
Speaker
Raw and SmackDown, it's just not doing it for me.
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't really have a reason. It was just kind of to do it, you know, but we'll see where it goes. Going forward. I try not to watch with too critical of an eye. I'm open. I'm trying to be open. We saw the main event, Dana O'Brien and Eric Rowan against Kofi and Kevin Owens. Kofi and Kevin Owens get the win here and I set up. I did like the stone cold stunner from KL. I don't know if he's going to make that a normal move of his or not, but I'd like to see that being brought back.
00:36:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I liked it. Um, I thought, I, I think this is where it's, it's also, um, you know, KO trying to maintain that baby face, you know, like, Hey, you know, I understand how it's, you know, this can make Kofi feel bad. So let me tag team with him against Daniel Bryan and Rowan, you know? Um, so maybe he is going to be a face. I don't know. I personally prefer heal Kevin Owens to face Kevin Owens. Um, but maybe that's just me.
00:36:49
Speaker
Where do you see them bringing back Luke? Speaking of these four people, Luke Harper, I feel like we talk about this every single week, but Luke Harper is still out. I think he's been training and coming back. He should be back soon. And Sami Zayn, could you see a Sami Zayn interference in this main event and then setting up a Kevin Owens-Sami Zayn match, turning one of them heel? I mean, I would rather have Kevin Owens heel, but I think those guys have wrestled some barn burners before in NXT.
00:37:17
Speaker
Yeah, they've had they've had amazing feuds before. Um, I could see that. I just, it's one of those things. It's just like,
00:37:28
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, how do you do it? You know, and Sammy Zane is so fricking injury prone that I'm like, I can't count on him to do anything. Oh, the carpet too. Yeah. Getting, getting hurt, you know? Um, so it's hard for me to get excited about him. Cause anytime he starts to get any sort of meaningful storyline, it's like, Oh, and we're out, you know? Um, but yeah, I don't know.
00:37:49
Speaker
I don't know about either of those guys. You know, there's just so much going on right now to me. Like, I'm like, don't don't bring anybody else in. Yeah. I mean, you saw Bray Bray Wyatt, too. He got into somebody on Twitter about like, you know, relax. I'm coming back when I'm coming back. Stop reading into all my all my tweets and all this shit. So. Oh, he did.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, I forget exactly. It was like Brian Alvarez or one of those guys had, you know, wrote a whole article about his, some tweet he said, you know, religious type of tweet. But yeah, I mean, it's almost, you could literally start, and I don't want NXT to become this, but you could start an entire third show and we don't have, and I don't have enough time in my life. I'm going to get a divorce if I watch another three hour wrestling show a week, but.
00:38:32
Speaker
I mean, you could skim 20 guys from each of these rosters, 10, 15 guys from each of these rosters, and make a whole other show. That would be pretty entertaining. And I know they already have 205 Live, and now NXT, NXT UK. It would be tough, but I
Collecting Wrestling Figures: Challenges and Tips
00:38:50
Speaker
just- Well, I mean, I think we're definitely in for it. I definitely think there's more expansion happening.
00:38:56
Speaker
I don't know what they're gonna do or how they're gonna categorize it, but I definitely feel like there's more brands and shows to be made with the amount of talent that WWE has. For sure. So we have both really good shows. Next week we will do a Fastlane preview as the card for that is starting to shape up pretty nicely. So we'll see what's going on there. Next up is our Go Figure segment.
00:39:26
Speaker
Here we go.
00:39:32
Speaker
All right, folks, Go Figure is our weekly segment where Sheena and I discuss our purchases of the week. Wrestling figures mainly, but if we get any other kind of figures or wrestling memorabilia, shirts, and all kinds of stuff, we both collect all kinds of wrestling-related gear. You'll hear about it here. So Sheena has breaking news on her Go Figure segment.
00:39:56
Speaker
Yeah. He'll husband and the baby face are actually out fig hunting as we speak. Um, and I just got some, uh, chick breaking news text, uh, from him that says he found retro series seven at Walmart, which we have not seen here on Island yet. So that's, that's, that's a big day for us here. It means that more, more stock is coming in. New stock is coming in. So.
00:40:16
Speaker
You know, just as a reminder, retro series seven is, uh, Seamus Kurt angle, Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho. Um, so that's pretty exciting. We've been seeing the same old Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose. Retro's here for months and months and months and months.
00:40:30
Speaker
Yeah, I did a Patreon exclusive unboxing video with those figures. Wait till you check out the Shawn Michaels one. It looks great. It doesn't look like Festus at all. But people have been asking me, people have been hitting me up about how to find these NXT elites at Target. So it's been frustrating as hell because I wake up every morning and there's an alert on my phone that, you know,
00:40:56
Speaker
Alistair Black is now available at target.com app. And it's always like for me here on the east coast, it's like two in the morning, three in the morning. I always miss it. So this is what I want to tell you. So if you're looking for these on the Target app, you need to search for something like search for Alistair Black. Nothing is going to come up, but you have to go to the top right where it says filter and make sure you check it. So things that are out of stock will come up.
00:41:22
Speaker
and there's a little heart when you pull up the figure you can click the heart and add it to a favorites so if you go to your profile anything you have saved as a favor to come up there and you need to make sure that there's a little green checkmark and it says notify me when this is back in stock you check that then you'll get a notification and it's literally
00:41:41
Speaker
you need to have your Apple Pay set up, you need to have everything good to go, so where you can go in here, click ship it, and check out, because I've been close to, I've had it in my cart a couple times, and it's going out of stock that quick. I don't know what Target does, they get like maybe three figures into the warehouse, and they turn the button on, but every time it goes back out of stock, you have to go back in and click notify me when it's back in stock, or you're not gonna get the notification. So the better thing to do, Sheena, is to go to popfinder.com, so BrickSeq will not work,
00:42:10
Speaker
for these Target NXT Elites for some reason. So it's Pop Finder, take the E out, so it's P-O-P-F-I-N-D-R dot com. And just go to the Target tab and type in 5-2-1-6-6-7-1-7 in your zip code.
00:42:27
Speaker
And I talked about it on the show last week. I have a group of buddies now through Facebook that have all, you know, locally, we all kind of search these targets. And one of the guys is in charge of just making sure the stock is, you know, when we see a local store, for example, there's two of these NXT elites. They're probably both Rusefs. We wake up in the morning and it jumps up to 10. We know there's a new case of eight NXT elites. One of whoever's nearby will go there.
00:42:53
Speaker
you know, we'll butter up whoever is stocking the shelves and get them to pull the case out. So I've been able to find a bunch of them and we've kind of, you know, we make sure these aren't going in the hands of scalpers, which is super annoying to see them on eBay for a hundred or two hundred dollars. I will try to get some if any more come in stock nearby here for all of our Patreon subscribers, even if you're just a dollar a month. I don't care. You're supporting the show. So I want to help you out. So
00:43:15
Speaker
Drop me a DM or a message or an email and tell me what you need. And if anything comes in, you PayPal me and I'll ship it out to you. Not a problem, but that's the best way. And it's really good to tag team with some other people because there's so many targets and I left, grabbed a couple of them today and a couple of people messaged me and wanted stuff. I tried to go back and they were already gone. So it's been tough. They've been in and out of stock in a lot of places, but that's the best method for finding that. Sorry, that was so long winded.
00:43:45
Speaker
No, that's all right. Like I said, we have legitimately, we're on Hawaii time, so we're way behind mainland. So when those target stocks are happening, it's literally like, are you OK? Did you fall down? No, I just leaned back on this chair, and it made like a cracking sound. I can't believe you heard that. This is a great microphone. Oh, yeah. Picked it up, man. I thought you had killed over. But yeah, literally, like, your husband has the alert set up on his phone, and it was like two seconds.
00:44:14
Speaker
Like, his husband is as savvy an online shopper as anyone I know as far as like getting hot releases and things that are super limited. Um, and I mean, he, it's like immediately, like within two to three seconds of him logging on, you know, after he gets the notification, they're gone. So yeah, I don't know what, like if there's one guy like scanning in one to two figures every time that the alert goes off, but it is so super frustrating and I can't even talk.
00:44:41
Speaker
about Target right now because I'm so frustrated with them. I don't know if you guys have been watching my Instagram stories over on Chick Foley, but there is this elite AJ figure swap that has been there and I have turned it in. It's top picks AJ.
00:44:55
Speaker
Um, and they swapped it with a different elite AJ, which is so bizarre to me. Like I understand people switching elites for basics, like whatever, but they, they swapped it out and it's not the correct figure, which whatever. I mean, I'm not, I'm not the gatekeeper for all the figures there, but my, what I always think is like, what if some mom is going to go there and like, you know, her son wants top picks AJ and she sees that and then she buys it and it's like not the right figure. Like that's such crap, you know, and I've turned it into customer service twice.
00:45:26
Speaker
And it's found its way back on the pegs and I've told them like, you need to damage this out. You know, it's not like, it's not the right figure. I've even showed them the right figure. Um, and then the other day I took it Phil and I buried it into the, into a ball pit. I saw that. That's great. Yeah. There was like this big ball pit and I buried it and it flipping returned on the peg. I went back the other day and it was on the peg. I was like, somebody found it and put it back on the peg.
00:45:51
Speaker
Oh my God. I would, I would just smash that. I would just accidentally run it over with the stroller or something. And I know everybody was like, you should just open it. And like, you know, I'm like, yeah, but then here I am, I'll be the jackass that gets arrested for opening a figure in the middle of the store after somebody like stole it. And I've already told them about it twice. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I'm just at this point, like, I'm like, okay, well I'm just, I did my part as a, you know, figure vigilante trying to, you know, take the law into my own hands, but,
00:46:20
Speaker
Target is the worst. I love Target for a lot of things, but their toy section is the worst.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really, really missing Toys R Us. I've been in too many targets over the last couple weeks. Friday, the day after we recorded last week, I headed to the office and somebody sent me an alert that, hey, there's some new elites. The elite 64s are in at this target downtown in Baltimore. So I head down there. I'm trying to be nice to everybody. And I find a girl stopping the shelves like, hey, can you scan this for me? I had a barcode that one of our Twitter buddies had posted of the Pete Dunn figure.
00:46:54
Speaker
And she scanned and said, there's two in the back. I don't know what they are, but I can check for you. So she was back there for five, 10 minutes, comes out with a Curt Hawkins and a Pete Dunn figure. And I was like, I'm gonna, I forget what her name was, but I'm gonna name my next kid, whatever her name is. And she didn't really give a shit, but that was great. And I've also, since last week, I've found Alistair Black and Ruby Riot.
00:47:18
Speaker
so and I found Killian Dane for a patreon member Mike green aka good brother Mike so I'm gonna ship that out to him and We gotta start we gotta start putting our powers out into the universe Like more off like we have mega powers last week when we were recording we both said hopefully next time next week when we're recording We'll have Pete done
00:47:38
Speaker
sitting here on our desk and both of us got Pete done this week. All right. Hopefully Scarlett Johansson moves in next door and starts a car wash business, her driveway. All right. I put it out there.
00:47:52
Speaker
Boozer white wife, do not listen to this. She's been asleep for two hours already, I'm sure. Yeah, but it was a good week and I found a whole case today and they were actually holding it for somebody, I think. I don't even know. One of the buddies in our Facebook group had called and maybe put it on hold maybe with somebody else, but I just grabbed the two that I needed. I didn't want to take all of them. I posted a picture on Twitter of, I had like six or seven
00:48:19
Speaker
NXT elites just from people I need to send them to and a couple buddies I need them up meet up with and somebody was like What are you doing buying a whole case? How do you feel about the other? Collectors in your area and I was like, I don't give a shit about them. They don't care about me. I care about here's what I care about I care about myself number one I care about my buddies and my friends that are collectors nearby and I care about the people that listen to this show and you and Our social media followers other than that. I don't care
00:48:46
Speaker
You're protecting the other collectors. You're not selling these things for a profit. Exactly. You are legitimately being part of the hashtag fig life that the fully postable guys really started on their show. So yeah, we need to, you just don't listen to those assholes.
00:49:02
Speaker
Yeah, if somebody was at the Target and said, I wonder if some guy I don't know named Phil wants these and I shouldn't buy them. No, nobody cares. They want them. They're going to buy them. So I'm definitely not using them for sinister purposes. I'm giving them to people for maybe another dollar or two for some gas or shipping, but nothing other than that. And I want to help people out. I don't want these to fall in the hands. I forget who it was. I should pull it up. I think Fully Opposable. I didn't listen to this week's episode of Fully Opposable. They might have talked about it. Did you listen?
00:49:31
Speaker
Because somebody on Twitter talked about how they ran into a scalper at Target and the guy had like all eight NXT elites in his hand and said, do you need all those? And he said something like, you were sleeping or something or like sleepers don't profit. I forget what saying you said, I'm butchering. He said that to the guy that was asking if he needed all those.
00:49:54
Speaker
Yeah, you said it to the guy on Twitter that his friend was fully posable and just said, you know, uh, you know, should have been sleeping like you shouldn't have been sleeping in or something. I would have taken those things out of his hand and stepped all over them because screw that man. Yeah, it is lame. I mean, you know, it is, it is first come first serve, you know, but it is, it is like scalpers. Like when they know the market's hot for it, it's just, I mean, it's been like that with collectors of any sort for,
00:50:20
Speaker
I mean, as long as I can remember, I mean, you know, we used to collect sneakers. I mean, I've collected, you know, vintage dishes. I know you probably, a lot of you guys don't know that about me, but I'm like a hardcore, like vintage collector, um, as well. And like the market has always been like that and resellers ruin it for everyone always. But I mean, you gotta respect their hustle, I guess, but it is, it is effing annoying, especially when the distribution is so bad for, um, you know, the Mattel figures right now that like, you know, they can literally legitimately charge like insane prices, but.
00:50:50
Speaker
Anyway, what did you get this week, Phil? That's it. I mean, Alice for Black, Ruby Ride, and I got Curt Hawkins and Pete Dunn. I picked up Honky Tonk Man at Retro Fest at GameStop for $9.99, just hours before he was announced for the Hall of Fame. So a pretty good day. That's a killer hall. Yeah, it's just, I wanted to talk about like, I love the major Wrestling Figure podcast. I listen to it every week, but man,
00:51:14
Speaker
Dude, me and Sheena are like you guys. We are out there hunting for this stuff just like you. We will help you out. And if we, there's gonna be a time where I'm not gonna be able to find something, Sheena, and I'm gonna need one of these awesome listeners to help me out. So it's all about paying it forward. I don't get to go to ringside collectibles and just pick up free figures whenever I want because I'm a wrestler. I'm buying this out of my own pocket and I'm hunting just like all the people listening. So we're just like you guys. I'm not trying to put ourselves on a pedestal that we're better than anybody.
00:51:45
Speaker
It's I've just been lucky over the last week or so. So it's you know, that's all it is
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah. One of the, um, one of the few like negative reviews that we have, uh, of the show, you know, people just hate and I can tell like, honestly, like these people, first of all, they didn't listen to the show. Second of all, they just hate because I like schooled them on Instagram. Um, and so they, they came here and decided to write a crappy review. You can tell by the review, but one of them was like, yeah, she just plays with her free, her free toys and thinks she's so cool. And I'm like, I've never received a free action figure from like,
00:52:18
Speaker
any sort of distributor or like Mattel or ringside or any of those things. So like every figure that I buy, I buy out of my own freaking pocket and like I've either hunted for it or I bought it, which means I worked and paid for it. So, you know.
00:52:33
Speaker
if you're out here thinking we're just getting figures rained on us. I mean, if you might, Ringside, if you're listening. Yeah, I'm not gonna turn them down, shit. If you're listening, if you wanna send us free figures by all freaking means, but just know that the shit that we review and the shit that we talk about is stuff that we legitimately purchased ourself and we're out there, we're part of the Fig Life community, we're hunting with you guys, we're hunting for you guys, we like to do unboxing videos for you guys so you can see all the details on the figs if you can't get your hands on them.
00:53:02
Speaker
That being said, my haul was pretty, it was pretty light this week, but I did get Elite Pete Dunn from a friend of Chick Foley, Qstown collector, awesome Patreon. So yeah, thank you so much for, for hooking us up with the Elite Pete Dunn. He was able to find it for us. The Ninja Turtles that I talked about last week, the NECA Ninja Turtles, we actually got those signed by Kevin Eastman, who's the creator of, you know, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And he was like so awesome, like,
00:53:29
Speaker
go to the instagram check out the autograph like he freaking nailed it um on those figures and you know we're not even like the autograph type you know like we don't get our figure signed and stuff like that um but we like the way that the those boxes were like we had to get them we had to get them signed we're still gonna unbox them
00:53:46
Speaker
Um, but I was, I was super stoked to get to meet him and we're still on the hunt. So since we're talking about the fig life, we are on the hunt for those two packs of Ninja Turtles that are based on the cartoon that are hitting target stores in their neck, a section. So if any of you guys come across that, make sure to hit me up on a cheek fully DMS and, uh, let me know. And maybe we can work something out.
00:54:06
Speaker
a little trade ski. Yeah, I did. I slipped down a slippery slope and I started buying some, this is so bad, some old 1996 wrestling WWVHSs. Oh my God. You're in a rabbit hole.
00:54:25
Speaker
I am I am because now I'm like, oh man, this one's only eight bucks. This one's ten bucks. This one's don't do it to yourself Stop doing that. I thought it'd be cool to like just something cool to display Obviously, I wouldn't go back and watch them. But yeah, it's like oh my god. There's not I can't do I can't do this but it's You can't be open to those cans of worms, dude There's so much out there that if I cuz I you know when you have that collector mentality once you start You get a clip complete it. Yeah, I
00:54:52
Speaker
You have to collect, yeah. And speaking of the major wrestling figure podcast, Zach Ryder, I feel like he's addicted. We're collectors. I feel like that man is straight addicted. He has some sort of problem. We're going to see him on hoarders one of these days with his figures. There's no space to walk in his home. It's just a hallway surrounded by toys and rings and all of this stuff. It is insanity, the stuff that that man
00:55:22
Speaker
has. So yeah, you got to cut it off somewhere or you're going to be, you're going to be like him where it's just like, you don't even enjoy it and you just have shit in storage units. Yeah. You don't even know what, what all you have, you know? Yeah, exactly.
00:55:34
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, that was my haul here. I'm hoping there's really not too much else I want to get out. I'm hoping those retro series eight. So I bought those on, they were posted up on Amazon. And I think it was like, I don't think you get charged for them until they ship, but that's a Braun Strowman, Iron Sheik, Zach Ryder, and Jeff Hardy. Those should be out, I think it's end of March, beginning of March, April time period.
00:56:02
Speaker
So those, I don't know when those are coming, but, uh, that's, that's the good thing about Amazon when they have stuff that's for pre-order, you're not going to get charged until they ship out. So, you know, there's free and obviously if you're prime, it's free shipping, so you don't have to pay as much as I love ringside collectibles. You know, they, they kind of eat you with those shipping charges. So yeah, they do.
00:56:19
Speaker
But yeah, that was a good good thing there if you guys want to co-host our Go figure segment as part of our patreon account too. We'd love to hear what you guys are picking up So hit us up there patreon.com slash chick Foley show. That's the last time I'll mention the patreon page I'm sure you're sick of it if you're if you're not no you're not no no
00:56:39
Speaker
Um, but, uh, let's move on to our random merch of the week.
Classic Matches and Listener Engagement
00:56:44
Speaker
And that's going to be a Hulk Hogan LJN prototype. Oh man, this is, you're, you're, you're going some bougie merch of the week. These things, man. It's some pretty expensive stuff for the last couple of weeks. Yeah. You know, we went from like the pimp Sean Michaels hat and the, the lighters, the bikini lighters of Sable, like all the way up to these like $20,000 random merches of the week. But man, I can't help it. We had bone saw last week and now.
00:57:09
Speaker
We have a Hulk Hogan 1984 LJN vintage prototype of arguably the most famous wrestling figure of all time. And there's two watchers on it. I'm almost betting I know who one of them is. But $20,000 you guys. It is free shipping and it comes in this dope display case and it's got the little
00:57:38
Speaker
Uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Like the authenticity, the little authenticity certificate on it. And it's pretty cool, but I'm just not into prototypes. Like it's not my, it's not my bag, but yeah, guys, like think about like how many, how many figures were made from that prototype? Like that, that, that whole Kogan 1984 LJN, like holy smokes.
00:58:00
Speaker
Yeah, that is a pretty penny, $20,000. There's one on here, I just did a search while you were speaking, and it's an LJN 16-inch prototype for a whole cooking for $49,999. There's 30 people watching this. Oh my God.
00:58:17
Speaker
I think this is when LJN was actually going to do like a figure that moved. I guess I don't, I don't know what, what the difference is here between the one that you spoke of, but, uh, $50,000 that's oh man.
00:58:32
Speaker
That's some serious cheddar, but like I said, if it sells this week, just go ahead and tune into the major wrestling figure podcast and you'll be able to hear all about it. Yeah, they'll have, I'm sure they'll tell a 10 minute story about it and how he traded somebody a 8x10 signed 8x10 for it.
00:58:53
Speaker
Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's the random merge of the week, but you do get free shipping. So, I mean, total bargain anytime you can save on shipping cost. Hey, it's like, yeah, you'd be a fool not to take it. Yeah. All right. Next up is our retro recommendation of the week off of the WWE network. And this is where we recommend a match that you need to check out that maybe you haven't seen in a while. She know what, what's your recommendation of the week?
00:59:20
Speaker
Well, since raw, we had, we saw the big dog back and we saw a Batista back on raw. Um, my, my retro wrestling recommendation of the week is obviously extreme rules. 2014. It was the shield versus evolution. Um, so in honor of this kind of like semi shield reunion we have going on and the tension building between former evolution members. Uh, I thought that was a great, a great match and definitely go watch it because there, there was this spot in the match where.
00:59:49
Speaker
Like Seth Rollins is like crazy and like jumps from the audience, like on from one of the railings onto Dean Ambrose and Randy Orton and Batista. And I mean, it just looks like it's insane. Like, I don't know. I would never have enough balls to like jump off that, but you know, my man Seth Rollins nailed it. So definitely go watch that out. Go watch that on the network this weekend.
01:00:13
Speaker
I had something similar. I had a WrestleMania 21 Triple H versus Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship, the big gold belt. And this is when Batista did the thumbs down in the middle of the ring, challenging Triple H and kind of became a main eventer and won the title.
01:00:31
Speaker
Tony still had hair. Yeah, exactly. Pretty good match too. Triple H was all busted open, and he had like the Fu Manchu. They both had a very interesting hairstyle. You had like the little flavor saver goatee on Batista, and you had the Fu Manchu redneck mustache on Triple H, but that was a pretty good match, man. These guys obviously have a history. I'm sure they're going to try to tell us that this is the first time they've ever wrestled a WrestleMania, but you need to go back and watch that one because they have, and it was good.
01:01:01
Speaker
For sure. Awesome. And after that, we're going to get into our listener mail. So we have one, and then we're going to get into our haterade classic and go through some of those. But first, what's our listener mail of the week?
01:01:14
Speaker
So we have a listener mail from friend of chick Foley, um, Trey from my damn toys. Um, guys, first of all, I want to say something about Trey. Like he is so awesome. Like, I don't know if you follow him on Instagram, um, but he does most of his magic over on YouTube. So make sure that you go over to YouTube to at my damn toys or my damn toys on YouTube and
01:01:37
Speaker
It's insane guys. Like the, his pick fed, like, you know, I love Instagram championship wrestling and I stand behind it, but his pick fed is like next level. I don't know how much time and energy he puts into making these paper views and these matches, but they are insane. I mean, it is just like next level. So make sure you go check him out, subscribe to his feed because you will not be disappointed. It's definitely something you could just like get sucked into whenever you're
01:02:02
Speaker
You know, instead of binging Netflix, go over and binge my damn toys YouTube and, uh, you know, gets a fantasy books and things. So his, uh, listener mail says, what's good, Sheena and Phil hounds of justice. They are right on time. Oh my God. Why are they barking? Anyway, it says what's good, Sheena and Phil weekly question coming in. This week was pretty interesting on both raw and smackdown. And it seems like both shows had a breath of fresh air.
01:02:31
Speaker
All right, sorry about that guys. We got the hounds of justice calm back down for now. So, um, this is from, uh, my damn toys. He says, what's good, Sheena and Phil weekly question coming in. This week was pretty interesting on both raw and smackdown. It seemed like both shows had a breath of fresh air on raw. Of course, the big dog returned. And one of my personal favorites of all time, Batista showed up out of nowhere, which was beautifully executed in my opinion. However, we saw my boy Kevin Owens returned to smackdown live this week.
01:02:59
Speaker
I was insanely hype as I've been awaiting his return ever since he went down. I truly feel that Kevin Owens is one of the best overall talents in the entire world, all around, in the ring, on the mic and in professional wrestling. I would like to ask both of you what your personal feelings are of Kevin Owens and do you share this view of him? Also, I like Kevin Owens better for the WWE title than Kofi, smiley face.
01:03:25
Speaker
It's interesting because he's a main event guy and he was for most of his, you know, I know he lost the title in like 10 seconds to Goldberg, but he's a legitimate guy. He comes back in and you don't question it when he comes back. He's been out for almost a year and he was going to step right back in into a, you know, main event title picture and it doesn't bother anybody. So I like that about him. I don't see, you know, as much as I like him and I love the Kofi mania thing, there's no way we're going to get a
01:03:54
Speaker
Seth world title win Ko-fi world title win a Becky world title win I mean you're not gonna just get four or five all-face World champions, you know, that's not it's not gonna happen as much as we would love it to happen so I'm sure this is gonna end up being a triple threat match there's gonna be some shorter s'mores at fast lane, but I
01:04:15
Speaker
Excuse me, I like Kevin Owens and I think he's, I like the option of having Kofi as the champion a little bit more, but I don't hate Kevin Owens in the spot for sure. It makes them main event day one and now they have another guided matchup in there with some fresh match ups against Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles and it's good.
01:04:36
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I don't hate Kevin Owens as, as universal champ or world champ. Like I think he's definitely main event championship worthy, but I think like he's, he's already been, you know, a champ. So I feel like this is Kofi's moment. Like I don't like, I get where he's saying like, I, I like KO better for the WWE title than Kofi. Like anytime, like, yeah, I like Seth Rollins better for the, you know, universal title than Kofi, right? Because that's my dude. But I do feel like,
01:05:05
Speaker
like Kofi's earned this moment to have a, you know, top title in WWE. And I feel like
Wrestling Gimmicks and Fan Reactions
01:05:12
Speaker
if, if you don't give it to the audience, like if you don't give it to them, like they are going to freaking turn and be on fire. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like you have too much momentum behind this guy right now.
01:05:22
Speaker
Um, to not do it. That being said, I love Kevin Owens. I think he is so witty. I love heel Kevin Owens. I mean, his, his turn on Sami Zayn and NXT was amazing. His, when he debuted on raw and beat John Cena in his debut. I mean, that was amazing. The, I mean the festival of friendship, like I loved him and Chris Jericho together. They were like,
01:05:46
Speaker
Incredible. Um, and I mean, for a bigger guy, like he's super athletic. And like I said, he's just amazing on the mic. The only thing, I mean, besides like the face of America gimmick that he tried to do, like everything else Kevin Owens has done has been. Incredible, except for stealing universal title from Seth Rollins, but we won't talk about that. Um, but I, I do love Kevin Owens. I think he's amazing and I'm glad he's back. I think we definitely need him. Um, you know, on our TV screens.
01:06:13
Speaker
Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, totally. I think he's going to be good. All right. Let's get into what, uh, what the world is here to hear. Oh, okay. So first of all, um, like I, like I said, at the top of the show, we have our Chick Foley hater egg classic happening. Um, and we got tons of submissions and you guys, we asked for like, we were like, what's your most hated wrestler? And we asked for like, you know, what funny, entertaining story, you know, the best, most funny or entertaining story we'll win.
01:06:42
Speaker
You guys brought some freaking hate. Like you guys have had this pent up for a while, man. When we asked who your most hated wrestler was the floodgates open. I mean, there was some like malice in my DMS. I had to like at one point come in and make an announcement. Like guys like lighten up a little bit. Y'all are like a depressing me. Y'all are depressing me with all this hate. Um, but we did end up getting some awesome submissions that were just super hilarious, but we did have to, um, narrow it down to three. So before I unveil,
01:07:12
Speaker
why I frickin hate Samoa Joe. I'm going to go ahead and read the top three and then we'll announce the winner. So the in third place we have Kieran Codd and he sends his in and he says
01:07:27
Speaker
Hashtag haterade. His is John Cena. His cargo shorts remind me of my high school science teacher who flunked me because I told him he smelled, or he smells like watery cabbage. Hashtag dick. Man, teachers wearing cargo shorts in schools? I mean, Kieran looks like he's probably our age or like, you know, so he probably went to high school in like the early 2000s. So, I mean,
01:07:56
Speaker
He's definitely cargo. Cargo shorts were definitely a thing back then. Oh, for sure. So thank you, Karen, for sending that in. And congrats on your bronze medal in the Haterade Classic. The next submission comes in from Ulti underscore Matt underscore warrior, friend of Chick Foley. And he says, hashtag Haterade. As a young kid, I used to hate the million dollar man because I thought he could end world hunger and just wasn't to be mean.
01:08:24
Speaker
I'd see the Oxfam commercials and all the charities and just think, dang, Ted DiBiase could really help if he wanted to. Oh, man. That's a great submission. How's that number two? You must have a good number one. Dude, I know. It was really hard. I mean, these guys were a hair apart because I loved that. When Heal Husband was reading that to me, I was laughing out loud. So awesome job and congratulations on your silver medal.
01:08:53
Speaker
in the Haterade classic. And our winner, and the winner of the Elite 64, Samoa Joe, goes to Burnout Inc. B.P.W. This is also the guy who made us our custom Chick-Foli title belt for ICW. So he is definitely a friend of Chick-Foli, but he comes in with his submission, and it says, hashtag Haterade. All right, Foley, you called down the thunder. Well, now you've got it.
01:09:23
Speaker
This requires a story. August 18th, 1993. Shockmaster stands behind a wall ready to burst onto the scene and challenge Sid Vicious for the rights to claim the world as their own when the stinger calls for the shocker. Boom! Fireballs engulf the flair for the gold and out comes the master of shockitude who tumbles over what
01:09:47
Speaker
a two by four beam that was nailed to the bottom of the wall. So embarrassing for the shock master. And who do we all know? Who do we all know that carries a two by four with him at all times? Fucking Duggan.
01:10:03
Speaker
Hacksaw Jim Duggan, the guy who never did the job, would never put anyone over and was paid by the Crockets to sabotage the shock master. That's why Hacksaw Jim Duggan is my most hated wrestler of all time. Wow. That's, that's some inception stuff right there. That's deep. I know. I was like, you know, I never thought about it. I was like, you know what?
01:10:29
Speaker
Hacksaw may have caused the shock master blender all those years ago. Well, yeah, I mean, that's, whew, that was the turning point of WCW there for sure. Wow.
01:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, fun fact, I actually got to wear the Shockmaster helmet at WrestleCon. It was sitting on his table, and I was like, oh my gosh, can I put this helmet on? And it was so glittery. It was that old-fashioned, 90s glitter, big, chunky glitter. And it looks so cheesy and party-ish in hand, but I still felt like a boss when I had it on. And it looked so good on TV. I don't know. It was so funny that it looked so cheesy in real life.
01:11:12
Speaker
What a gimmick that was. Oh my god. I cannot wait till we do our worst gimmicks Bracket for the patreon because that is that is gonna be way more fun than the best gimmicks one because there's so much ridiculous shit That's happened in the last 30 years of wrestling. Oh, I know I'm sure if we start like digging digging deep You know, but yeah poor Fred poor Fred ottman, you know He just had he had so much good happen and then it's cool. He's gonna let him keep the helmet. Oh Yeah, yeah, definitely like it was it I mean it was
01:11:43
Speaker
Awesome. Like I have to, I'll post the picture on Instagram. I posted it on there before, but Fred Altman was like, he was super, super nice when we met him and everything. But yeah, I thought it was pretty cool that he, he brought that little, um, relic with him. Awesome. So he gets that elite Samoa Joe and we get to find out why you hate Samoa Joe. Oh my goodness. Okay. So take a breath real quick. Let me have a swig of beer for the working man. Nice.
01:12:12
Speaker
Probably the most common question I get on Instagram, like I said earlier is, why do you hate Samoa Joe? Like anytime, anytime I post anything about Joe, like that's like one of the most questions and people rib me about him all the time. Um, and I've had the Chick Foley account running for almost four years and have over 7,000 posts about God knows how many different wrestlers. And somehow Midas Dane for the SoCal submission specialist continues to be the thing that perplexes
01:12:39
Speaker
most of my followers. Um, and I'm about to finally let you guys in on the big secret. And the reason I hate Samoa Joe so much is I don't hate him. Yeah, you heard me. I do not fricking hate Samoa Joe. In fact, I actually like, I like him, you know, he's consistently been one of the better wrestlers on the show during his time in NXT and on the main roster.
01:13:06
Speaker
And I look forward to seeing what he does for the rest of his career in WWE. And the reason why this whole thing freaking started is one time I made a post being slightly critical of him a few years ago and it started this like firestorm. Like you think my Corey Graves post was like firestorm. Like this was like a firestorm. Um, and the smarks were rolling out of their mom's basements and droves just like Twitter fingers blasting. And they were so appalled that I could ever have anything negative to say about their indie darling that
01:13:36
Speaker
like you know me like I had two choices I was like you know here I am I could try to explain myself to these booger eaters or I could just lean in and like make them like hate me even more you know and revel in their their outrage so you know the great thing about wrestling is that there's truly something for everyone you don't have to like
01:13:54
Speaker
every wrestler, you know, and if you don't like the glitz and glamour of WWE, like cool, check out new Japan. If you don't like the seriousness of new Japan all the time, like go freaking watch being the elite, you know, and get hyped for AEW, but there's something for everyone. But there's this like certain section of fans that like to be like the gatekeepers and act like they just have some sort of Supreme opinion when it comes to wrestling. And Joe just happens to be one of their favorite wrestlers and an innocent bystander.
01:14:23
Speaker
in my war with the internet's marks. So I'm sorry, Joe, that you had to be an innocent bystander. But once and for all, I'm burying the hatchet and ending all the beef I had with Joe, which I'm sure he has no ideas even going on. But I wish him well in 2019. And I hope the third time's a charm for this guy. And I hope he finds a place on our televisions at Wrestle freaking Mania.
01:14:50
Speaker
Wow, that was a definite twist at the end of the story there, but it's interesting. I love the troll job. I love just the years-long troll job of all the assholes. That's very similar to some things that I used to do on Instagram and Twitter. I was just committed. You got to. I was not going to let it die.
01:15:13
Speaker
Yeah, I was like, no, this, this has gone too far. Like I can't even remember what I said about it. I don't remember if it was about Tyson kids, like when, you know, he injured Tyson kid, or I said something after he injured Seth Rollins. Um, but I mean, it was like this. Just like I said, firestorm. And I was like, Oh, hell no. And I went on a rant that night. I went on a rant on my Instagram stories, but ever since then, it's just been like this, like,
01:15:40
Speaker
slow troll job for all the marks, you know, because I mean, of course I don't hate some OJ. I don't hate any wrestlers. I don't hate them, you know, like personally, like I don't even know anything about them, you know, but WWE is meant for you to love people and hate people, you know, as their characters. Um, and people just feel like they have a right to tell you who you can love and hate, you know? So anywho,
01:16:07
Speaker
Man, yeah, there's something powerful about posting something that you know that people are just going to get pissed off by, you know, and you know that there's probably a group of like three or four people that you know are always going to react the same way when you post shit about Samoa Joe. And, you know, it's nice to have that power over people that, you know, just your words can piss somebody off that much over someone they've never met before.
01:16:31
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, for me, I just like, I'm always under the, the, I always tell myself, like, cause you know, people are like, well, what if you offend people and what if, you know, people, you know, people unfollow you? Like I don't care. And you know, honestly, like most of those people don't unfollow the only, the only thing people love to hate or to love to follow more than people they love is they love to follow people they hate, you know? So people are just looking for reasons to be pissed off. And if I can piss them off, like they're there for it. So.
01:16:57
Speaker
You know, I love all of our Chick-Bully followers, and I would say probably 90% of them are awesome, but there is a vocal 10% that are just like, what the hell? Oh, man.
01:17:10
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. I love our followers too. I love our Patreon followers a slightly bit more, but all of you guys, thank you for supporting the show. We've grown the Twitter account from the last month or so from like 500 to close to 630 followers. I'm always trying to tweet out different deals going on. Sheena has Instagram covered on her side, so we're on both ends of the social media spectrum there.
01:17:37
Speaker
And we appreciate all the love. We've seen a lot of people share in our last couple episodes. The listens on our episode scheme seem to keep growing every single week. So keep doing what you're doing. You can follow
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01:17:48
Speaker
us or you can listen to us on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, Spotify, and Podbean, basically any app that gets podcasts. You can search for the Chick Foley show and listen to us there.
01:17:59
Speaker
We appreciate you. We will be back next week. We're going to preview Fastlane. I'm sure going to get into some WrestleMania news and rumors and as we get closer to AEW Double or Nothing or whatever. Is that what it's called? Double or Nothing Down Under? Still there, Sheena? What did you say? I was making fun of the AEW Double or Nothing. Oh, Double or Nothing. Yeah, Double or Nothing Down Under.
01:18:23
Speaker
But yeah, we have a chock next couple weeks of shows. We have some new Patreon content coming out. I'm writing an article right now, Sheena. I'm starting a new segment on the Patreon because I'm getting kind of getting, I'd love to write and I've been away from it for so long. So I'm gonna do an article. What if Bret Hart never left the WWE and go through some segments and what would happen? Would the attitude error have happened? How would it have been different? I think it's an interesting, he was the face of the WWE for so long. What would happen if he,
01:18:53
Speaker
the Montreal screw job never happened and he would have stayed and been a part of the WWE. So check that out and we appreciate you guys listening. Sheena, anything else before we get the hell out of here and I go to bed? No, make sure that you go over to app for the title. They're almost fully funded. They are like 93% funded. So we want to make this comic book happen for them. We've been talking about it on the show, been talking about it on the Instagram feed. So
01:19:18
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Go support these guys. They are awesome. They're artists. They are, you know, wrestling fans. So there's nothing better. So go over to at for the title, check them out, throw some duckets their way and let's make this book happen. And if you end up purchasing a book, um, you will not regret it. Like I have their first book and it is just amazing. And it's something that, you know, even my, even Brett,
01:19:38
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loves to look at and like the kids I used to nanny for they used to love the book and they know nothing about wrestling. So definitely check it out and support those guys and thank you again for supporting all things Chick Foley. We love you.
01:19:50
Speaker
Check out our friends over at the Fully Poseable podcast as well. Their episode drops on Sunday night, Monday morning. So you can listen to them at the beginning of the week. You can listen to us on Thursday and Friday. And your commute to work is covered for two of the five days. And stay classy, Marks. We'll be back here next week with a brand new episode.