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A Thanksgiving Good Burger
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Join Dave and Jake as they talk about the psychology of spending money, the pie tier list, thanksgiving food, coffee, LAN party, and foods that go too far in this week's episode!
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Introductions and Weekend Stories
00:00:49
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jay. I'm joined by my co-host, as always, Dave. How's it going today, Dave? It's going alright. Slow weekend wake up, but relaxing.
00:01:04
Speaker
showered fed well i guess eden i wasn't fed well you can feed yourself i have a service that comes over and i just lay mouth agape you just grapes oh yeah on my fainting couch yes
00:01:22
Speaker
How about you? The weekend lays.
Psychology of Spending and Black Friday
00:01:27
Speaker
Yeah, it feels weird because, um, yesterday, as of the time of recording was black Friday and it felt like black Friday was kind of Saturday. Um, and so like the clock's a little bit weird, but it's nice. I appreciate it. Um,
00:01:46
Speaker
I mean, this is the the morning after where I get to like look over the things that I purchased on Amazon and be like, huh? Right. Like I'm not so I don't I don't drink or do anything like that. But I didn't purchase anything while inebriated. But I do get to look at the prices and be like, that might have been money. You were telling me like you picked up some things like on checkout like you also might be interested in.
00:02:17
Speaker
And I get hit by that too, even if sober, if it's that, Hey, I need to get these two items. I'm going to do it through Amazon for convenience. And then you just find some other stuff like, Oh, I could, I could use that. I could eat that for later. It's I'm planning ahead.
Thanksgiving Pies and Food Traditions
00:02:31
Speaker
Really. Um, the, I'll get caught up in the exact same thing.
00:02:34
Speaker
I know it's like psychology, so I was showing Dave here. I'll bring it up so you guys can see it too. It's a magnetic cube puzzle thing basically. It was around 20 bucks, maybe a little bit less, but I think it was around 20 bucks. It's very cool, but I wouldn't normally just buy it.
00:02:53
Speaker
And it really just plays to that like psychological principle of people are willing to spend more money if they just spent money. Yes. It's like the wallets open, you know, while I'm here. Right. And then you then you tighten the purse strings again. You're like, never again. Yes, exactly. And I will begin replenishing the coffers. Well, I think it works both ways. Right. So if you're like spending money, you're like, oh, I can also throw in something else. But if you get hit with like a large bill
00:03:20
Speaker
You're like, I want to cancel all my subscription services. And it seems very reactionary in both cases. Yeah, maybe it has something to do with, I mean, we're both psychologists, so this means a lot when we say it. But I think it has something to do with choosing to spend money versus having the choice taken from you. Yes, for sure. If someone was like, hey, you have to buy a NAS, I would be like,
00:03:50
Speaker
Okay, I guess I will. But I probably wouldn't have gotten this puzzle cube along with it, right? Whereas if you are willing to go out and spend money on something, then everything else, it's because your perspective shifts, right? It's like, oh, I dropped $1,000 on this thing. A couple hundred bucks for this. That's like nothing, right?
00:04:11
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, if I go to a convention, I'm planning to spend money and I usually will have like a set limit. And then usually you break that limit because you're like, Oh, now it's just going to occasion. I want to get, you know, how am I going to remember this? If I'm not taking photos, it's with merch. Um, yeah.
00:04:30
Speaker
But if I go to the mechanic and they're like, we fixed your car. And I'm like, for free? How sweet of you. And then I drop usually like around a grand there. I'm like, well, I don't want to spend anything. Right.
00:04:45
Speaker
I do know that. I'm in that deficit mode. I'm like, oh, we can't even grab like a little treat on the way home. It's like we go home, we have baby carrots and drink water, maybe have a deep breath and think about your decisions. Right. Well, you breathe before you enter the apartment. You're using the community air. Oh, yeah. I don't want to use my own air. That would be stupid. You got to save that.
00:05:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's definitely the case. I found that like when I'm getting work done on my car or something like that, um, I'll normally spring for their recommendations and things like that, but not all of them. And I don't know if this comes from, so I don't know anything about cars, right? Like I'm pretty sure there's four wheels, give or take, but like. I don't, I can't evaluate point by point whether these are good recommendations. If they're like, Hey, your transmission fell out while we were working on your car.
00:05:32
Speaker
I'm like, it seems bad, but does it, will it still work? Right? Like, I don't know. Um, so instead I'll take like most of their recommendations, but I'll reserve one as though to say, you don't have full power over me. Can we replace your windshield wipers? Actually, sir, you may not. And then you notice those streaks. God damn it. Uh-huh. They're just actively carving holes. How, how sharp are these blades? Uh-huh.
00:05:59
Speaker
No, a good mechanic should tell you, hey, this is an important thing, or hey, this can wait, but one to just kind of make you aware. But it feels like, I think for a lot of people, when you go to a mechanic, especially
Holiday Activities and Gaming
00:06:12
Speaker
if you're less versed with car stuff like myself, it feels like everything is like them trying to squeeze money out of you. But it also could be like, hey, your car's going to fucking explode because you've never changed the oil, and we've got to do this.
00:06:28
Speaker
They just come over with a clipboard and it's like we're not really sure how to tell you this but we found a bomb We found a bomb on your car and we're gonna it's a little bit more expensive. We're only charging you labor, but we think you should take that What if I want a bomb what if I want an extra bomb added mm-hmm
00:06:48
Speaker
Right. My car is double. You'd be a plumb with plums. A second car is hitting the... Mr. President, a second car is hitting the... Yeah.
00:06:59
Speaker
Yeah. I think enough time has passed that that format, the second, whatever has hit the towers, you know, whatever format of the joke is just hilarious to me. Um, I also like now watch this dry. Uh-huh. Um, there was like, uh, it works for so many things. It's like, you see someone going back for pumpkin pie, you know, like a second piece of pie is hit the, hit the brother or something like that. Right. It's really good. Oh, speaking of pie.
00:07:28
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't have any because I did like a Wawa Thanksgiving. Sure. But did you get to have any good food and Thanksgiving times?
00:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, we had a modest American single Thanksgiving with the end laws and their family, which is, you know, my family. I'm not gonna represent it. It's something it's not. We get along just fine. And they had a pumpkin pie and they had one other type of pie. I can't remember what type it was. A can con? I'm not sure. It wasn't a particularly fancy one. It could have just been like Apple or something.
00:08:02
Speaker
Um, they don't listen to the podcast. I think so. They won't hold it against me, but I will say it tasted like generic pie to me. I don't know. It could have been. I think it was, I think it was a store about pumpkin pie, um, which is fine. I don't, I like pumpkin pie, but I don't place it like super high on the pie tier. Um, I will say that we bought one from Sam's club because you know how they have like for pizzas, the like medium, which is like inedibly small, large, which is like normal.
00:08:29
Speaker
And then like sometimes extra large is actually a pretty big pizza. Yeah. Their pies were like. They were between large and extra large to that pizza size. This is a 16 inch or whatever pumpkin pie. It was gigantic. It was like six dollars at Sam's Club for that pie.
00:08:52
Speaker
Are you free this weekend? Do you need help eating pie? I was, I was eating a lot of it and I was like, I'm actually kind of, I'm kind of sick of pumpkin pie. I could understand getting sick if you're having a lot of it, but pumpkin pie for me is one of those top tier pies. Yeah. What's a, what's above and below pumpkin pie for you.
00:09:17
Speaker
I think any type of cobbler or pumpkin roll is like top tier dessert for me. Below that, apple pie can be amazing. It also can be shit. It depends. I'm not a big fan of cherry pie. I don't like that lemon meringue shit. It's fine. I will still eat it, but it's not my go to.
00:09:37
Speaker
I like very much, it's very much this one flavor and it's good. And then it has like a nice crisp or graham cracker crust, something like that. So you're not really looking.
00:09:50
Speaker
I feel like just by definition of the name, I don't know if we can classify it with pies, but... So you're not really a fan of the meringue or cream types of pies, because like... It sounds like you're going for the substance, yeah. Give me something to chew, not something that's going to like, oh, it's foam in my mouth and it disappeared. I like the wind.
00:10:16
Speaker
Like if you threw the pie at someone's face, you want it to knock them out, not to just be
Public Gaming Communities
00:10:20
Speaker
a game show. That's basically what you're saying, right?
00:10:22
Speaker
Yes, I want them to be fucking caked my guy. I want to have to like dig them out like they're fucking Ur-kai after I throw this pie. That's a funny visual. I like that. I agree. As great as it would be for content to disagree 100% with you. Like if I'm seeing the like hand-woven crust interweaved across like quilt pattern on the pie,
00:10:49
Speaker
Um, anything like that. I'm a big fan of rhubarb. Rhubarb is actually probably my favorite kind of pie. Is it rhubarb alone? Uh, you can put some other stuff in there, but, uh, I kind of growing up, my parents actually had some rhubarb or they would buy some from like a market. And then you just like cook it down. You add some sugar, stuff like that. And then just rhubarb pie crust, it was delicious. So good.
00:11:13
Speaker
For anybody who doesn't know, rhubarb was an elephant way back in the day. I've heard of strawberry rhubarb pie. Strawberry is always a lady down the street from me. That was like my first job was mowing her lawn. I think her name was May.
00:11:30
Speaker
And like she could do it herself. She was a very active 80 year old lady, but she's like, Oh, hire like a local kid who's offering, right? Stimulate whatever cheap amount of money. Probably like $5 an hour, which is not good. Um, and any standard, but she had some rhubarb grown in her garden. And I think at one point she did make some strawberry rhubarb pie and like offer me a slice or something.
00:11:58
Speaker
I feel like I definitely got some food from her at some point. That's like incredibly like homely and quaint, this idea. Back in the old neighborhood, you know, just do some chores, some neighbors, they fed me stuff like that. It's like, that's pretty awesome. That was cool. Cause I got to go outside for like a couple hours.
00:12:18
Speaker
I'd bring our mower, so I'd push it down like the I'd walk down the hill, bring gas. Right. It was like all this stuff. Kids from the Sandlot nonsense. Mm hmm. Yeah. That's pretty good.
00:12:34
Speaker
Not any job, but salary. Right. Once you come back 20 years later or whatever, we need to sign a contract this time. I feel I was taken advantage of in my youth. This is my contract. Start my own miniature union.
00:12:54
Speaker
Other than that was good, you know, standard, standard spread, turkey stuffings, cranberry sauce, the traditional American Thanksgiving dinner. I've heard of people who sometimes go to multiple Thanksgiving get-togethers.
00:13:11
Speaker
I mean, I would do it. I would say I'm physically capable. I've I've strengthened my body to the point where I could eat that much food. But I don't know if I would prefer it. It's kind of indicative when everybody's wearing sweaters this time of year. It's like, please do not look at my gut from eating the first Thanksgiving dinner. Then we had a friend's giving. And then we also went to my other side of the family's Thanksgiving. Uh huh. Yeah. Tends to add up a little bit.
00:13:42
Speaker
But I like having some leftovers as far as like a leftover sandwich, because all the foods you listed, I like, um, and I would eat them as leftovers. Usually make it a bowl, occasionally you can put it in between some bread if you got it. Oh yeah. Make your own gobbler at home.
00:13:59
Speaker
Yeah, unfortunately we didn't bring a whole lot back.
Organizing Gaming Events
00:14:02
Speaker
We got some like some dark meat from the Turkey, but I'm not a huge fan of that. It can work. It can work, but I'm pretty basic when it comes to turkeys.
00:14:15
Speaker
That's why we call Jacob white need. Yeah. That's why you call me white. It's not because of the zero exposure to sunlight. Oh, no, no, no. I would never, I would never harp on you for that. And that's not your fault. Right. Actually, I see more sunlight now than I did in the past. It's still insubstantial, but you know, I have to like rake leaves or mow the lawn or do something like that. So I'm sure there's a slight tonal shift across the summer at least.
00:14:44
Speaker
What we should do is track Jake's skin tone over the years and see how it changes. No possible reasons for that.
00:14:52
Speaker
I think, I think if you had a doctor look at it, you're like, this is unhealthy. Basically the starting point. And then it'll be there for most of, most of the time. I think I have just enough middle Eastern blood that I will tan a little bit before going like full sunburn. But my dad is also very central PA white meat. So I definitely got a lot of that too. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:22
Speaker
Well, we just outed ourselves up until this point. We've been trying to represent as black, but I guess I'm as black as donkey. Yeah. I love that. Any any interesting things happen over the holiday season so far that you want to you want to talk about any fun conversations, any 15 car pile ups or anything like that over the break?
00:15:51
Speaker
I'll be honest, it's been pretty uneventful for me. I went to Wawa to get a Thanksgiving meal and a energy drink. And I also played a lot of Dota over my time. And I did speak to my parents. I think I called them or they called me. They were getting together some friends. This is nice chat with them, catching up a little bit.
00:16:19
Speaker
That's always nice. I'm not realizing I need to do things this weekend to catch up. Yeah, that's fair. I do think that there's a different vibe sometimes to playing games over holidays, because I've been there in the past for like Christmas, or like Christmas Eve or something. And you just get on. There's a group of friends who are online. There's a lot of friends who aren't online. And there's immediate solidarity.
00:16:46
Speaker
for the people who are online. You all know that you're in this together, right? It's like, hey, we're all kind of at home ordering DoorDash. Let's game it up. Hang out. Mm hmm. It's a nice time. It's nice. It's like because you normally you can't tell if other people are desperate or not, but you can just imply it. I mean, I know. I'm just I'm just I can show you some messages that definitely some people who are. And I'm one of them. Uh huh. I crave social attention.
00:17:15
Speaker
That's fair. We actually I would say not specifically over the holiday season, maybe a little bit before, but we've been checking out Lethal Company a little bit. Yeah, that actually that's the game that I talked with my brothers and sisters over on the the other side of the family about they're like, hey, have you played Lethal Company? And I'm just like, literally this week. How have you been enjoying that?
00:17:45
Speaker
I think it's good. I do think it's, I know we played together some.
Coffee vs. Energy Drinks
00:17:50
Speaker
I played most of the time, I think that at least one of our friends groups is played together. So I have like a good amount of time and I have a pretty good understanding of most of the mechanics and monsters and things like that, I think. I still get surprised by things, obviously, but it doesn't seem like it's super, super deep from a gameplay perspective.
00:18:11
Speaker
But definitely not. That makes it kind of approachable would be my take on it. Yeah, I feel like it's been fun to get in and mess around with. Maybe you play for like an hour or two hours with people. It's great as like a I think it's better earlier versus like if you've been playing for 80 hours type thing. Yes. Because you have that fresh. I don't know what this is. I don't know where to go. I don't know what any of these things do. And you're just dying constantly.
00:18:39
Speaker
And then other people don't know that you're dead. They're like, where's, where's Jimmy? And then they're not responding on the thing. They're like, I think they're dead, but maybe they're next to a dog. Um, it's just been very janky and cute and fun. Yeah. It's, it's so many things like come together to make it a great, I call them like flavor of the month type games.
00:19:04
Speaker
Right. Like to a certain extent fall guys was that type of game among us was definitely that type of game where it was just like, here's an indie and the internet just descends on it. Like a swarm of locusts. Um, they kind of lucked out for this one because I'm like, I think among us had dedicated hosting. I'm pretty sure fall guys is peer to peer not fall guys. Sorry. Uh, lethal companies peer to peer.
00:19:31
Speaker
So they didn't have to worry about scaling their infrastructure a ton. But it was just like one guy made this game. Yeah, apparently they're like 21. It's pretty good. They're super young. It's honestly pretty good. Yeah, once it picks up on Twitch, everyone kind of clamors around it, mainly because it's just getting so much more exposure and visibility. Yeah. I think it's worth it. In the same way, I didn't know what Valheim was until everyone's hopping on that train. It's like, oh, this game's actually pretty good.
00:20:01
Speaker
Yeah. I will say Valheim has a lot more substance than this game. This game is there basically for like the, I'm going to call them like viral moments where there's a whole lot of YouTube clips that are just like 15 to 20 seconds long of people who think the situation's in control. Yeah. And very rapidly that changes, right?
00:20:25
Speaker
And certain things that they developed, just to get technical for one second, certain things the developer did that really amplify that are like the Doppler effect. If someone dies or they fall down like a hole or something, like you'll hear their voice pitch, like shift.
00:20:41
Speaker
as they're falling down the hole. There was a clip I saw where a guy was, he had like a clown horn, I think, or a bike horn, was just hitting it and just like spamming it until he accidentally walked off a ledge and you just hear it. It's just this traditional classic, like dying clown sound is exactly what it was.
00:21:06
Speaker
But stuff like that is just hilarious. So many times like catastrophe happens in this game and then you immediately go into death spectating with anyone else who's died and you can just chat freely, like use voice chat freely. And so many times it's death straight into laughter.
00:21:24
Speaker
I love that. Yeah. It feels good to succeed in that game and it feels good to fail in that game. So I think it's like you said, good and approachable for that thing. Yeah. It's definitely not like a heavy game though. There's no skill trees. There's no meta progression, anything like that. If you
00:21:46
Speaker
lose your save at the end of the night, unless you were really tryharding, it doesn't matter, right? You're just gonna get one good job at the start of the next session or something and get all the gear back that actually matters. So yeah, there's very low
Fast Food Adventures
00:22:00
Speaker
floor to ceiling as far as capability and like progression within the match.
00:22:07
Speaker
And I will say towards the community. We played one the other day. We were short one of our players. So a pub joined. And boy, how did they have a microphone? They were talking almost nonstop. I think it was like a younger guy. Seems like maybe late teens, early 20s.
00:22:26
Speaker
Um, he was very helpful. Um, but he also was just talking constantly being like, we should go here and do this. We're like, okay, buddy. Like we were very mellow in comparison, like rolled. Um, was he the operator? Was he, was he in the ship or was he running around with you? Did a little bit of everything. Yeah. Uh, a lot of screaming, um, very much getting into the spirit of I saw a monster. Oh no. Um,
00:22:53
Speaker
But yeah, like honestly, like for a pub experience, like it could have been a lot worse. That person is actually very friendly. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, for sure. There's, um.
00:23:04
Speaker
It's interesting to talk about the pub atmosphere for some of these games. I've been putting a good amount of time into Barotrauma recently, too. We've been playing that game pretty frequently. And that game, Rust, other survival-type games, if they have this open-join public lobby system, sometimes mechanics can play into how toxic people are going to be in the match for rewarding them, punishing them, things like that.
00:23:33
Speaker
And in Barotrauma in particular, just to back this up with an example, if you go around wrecking your own ship or causing the reactor to overheat or do something that is harmful to the crew, friendly fire, whatever, you get this invisible negative karma system until the game literally gives you a debuff called space herpes, which has a bunch of negative side effects, and you'll just occasionally drop unconscious and all this stuff.
00:23:59
Speaker
Just because it's like it acknowledges that in a world of random, some people are not going to be playing cooperatively, right? So if somebody is griefing, it will hit them with it. Yeah. It'll come back. It'll come back to hit them. And if someone, you know, checks their medicals, like their diagnosis or whatever and sees they have space herpes, they immediately know the person's been harming the crew a
Thanksgiving Food Preferences
00:24:22
Speaker
lot and they might get kicked. Right. So.
00:24:25
Speaker
And I think if like any extreme case, if it's just like you just joined in and immediately blew up the submarine, then you can set the threshold to just automatically kick people too.
00:24:37
Speaker
It's nice. I think as fun as it is to play with friends, and that's the top tier experience. It always is, right? Again, people kicking a cannon in an alleyway could be fun with friends. But the main thing is if I had a good experience like that, I'm never going to see Joe Schmo again. We can't reminisce about that thing that happened. But if I share these memories with friends,
00:25:00
Speaker
at like the next Friendsgiving, like three years down the line, I'd be like, do you remember that one time you just fucking jumped off the cliff? We were like, where's it going? Yeah. Like, I don't know. I like to be able to share those stories of people's fuck ups and successes. Like, oh my God, so crazy when this happened. I guess part of the reason I'm still playing Dota is for that is we have so many shared memories in this and we just keep making more. And it's fun.
00:25:28
Speaker
Yeah, I think I've used this example before, but it's very much poker night for the older generation. It's a group of friends coming along. It doesn't really matter what happens at given night. The point was a companionship to some extent.
00:25:47
Speaker
So you're saying I should, instead of have Discord Nitro, instead of the virtual girlfriend on Facebook? I mean, priorities. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how fully featured the virtual girlfriend on Facebook is.
00:26:03
Speaker
I just need somebody to respond to my messages. Speaking of, Jake, if you could check your inbox, that'd be cool. What does this send feed me? I did check Discord real quick. I wasn't sure if this was a sly like we're going in the direction we don't want or something. I just like to lean into bits.
00:26:25
Speaker
No, that's fair. Um, but yeah, it's a, it's a cool game. I don't plan on playing lethal company forever, but I think it would be great for like land or something like that, right? Grab a couple of people, have some fun, lose your mind. Um, I also feel like there's so, or I'm always thinking about like, what's the evolution
Creative Use of Leftovers
00:26:42
Speaker
of land, right? Where is this going? And something that we haven't explored too much yet is the idea of having some people playing and then others spectating, right?
00:26:56
Speaker
And I think that could be cool. Like the venue we use, which sounds like a very pompous word for the actual floor space we get, but it is nice place. Um, like it has a projector that you could, you could wire up some audio and stuff there and like actually have a good, uh, spectator gallery.
00:27:17
Speaker
for people that are going off and doing something. It doesn't have to be a lethal company. I've actually kind of gone beyond that now. But I think it'd be fun to, especially as people like, not everybody brings computers. Some people drive in and out of conversations.
00:27:31
Speaker
That's just the alcohol, I'm sorry. When I say drifting out of conversations, I don't mean like during a dialogue. Jay was frantically going on about something between Israel and Palestine and then it's kind of like trailed off. He didn't go further away, he just closed his eyes for a little bit.
00:27:52
Speaker
But I think it could be kind of fun to have some events where it's like, this is the dedicated spectator gallery. Add to this. Sure. Because I like this idea. If we're, I mean, we always have some type of scheduled games and tournaments. Yeah. But if we actually pick something that was a little bit more people inclusive or a little bit more competitive, something in that space, and then we get our friend of the show, Eric, to do some casting on that.
00:28:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, like in game for like projecting, um, maybe we have somebody on cams, but actually like making it an event. Uh-huh. And then maybe people can like place bets on teams, like obviously for shits and giggles, uh, more like bragging rights. But yeah, that could be a cool way to get more people involved if they don't want to lug around a computer, which is like myself currently, or people who are just like hanging out in the back room type thing. Right.
00:28:47
Speaker
Well, if they make it to the back rooms, they're not coming back, but oh, that's true. There is no scale. That is that is the one downside to the venue is one of the doors does just lead into the back rooms. So there was drunk trying to find somewhere to piss and oh, oh, why do all of these cubicles look the same? Yeah. Yeah, I think that'd be really cool. It would really come down to implementation because a lot of good ideas are
00:29:16
Speaker
destroyed by other variables and things that make it less feasible, but I think it could be fun, you know, especially as like a, as a one-off thing. It'll just be difficult to find whatever that game is. It's true. Yeah. Cause you want people who are going to be like tryharding to be the actual participants, but you also need something that is a good spectator. Rocket League for everybody else. Rocket League's amazing for it.
00:29:45
Speaker
Every time I've watched people play Rocket League on Discord, I'm always wildly entertained. Because they're giggling cons, they're going like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. They're actually competent at the game. So it feels fun to cheer them on and see what's going to happen next. Yeah, Rocket League might be the best bet by far. I think it also has decent spectator support, which can be helpful for a game like this. Because if it's a first-person shooter or something, we talked about this before.
00:30:13
Speaker
It can be difficult to track what's going on from a spectator perspective. Yeah. There's not really like a sky cam. You can move around as far as they know. Yeah. Not for like they did. They added it eventually for like overwatch, but it's still kind of a pain and the game moves too fast. Rocket league sky cam is perfect. Right. You can just zoom around, occasionally go first person perspective or something. We got to pay. We got to get money. If you got to start saving now, we
Regional Food Preferences and Experiments
00:30:37
Speaker
got some money for the caster. In this case, Eric, uh, you know, we got to get an observer.
00:30:41
Speaker
bring them on board, hire the best Koreans and we can make it happen. I think what's going to happen in two days, I'm going to get a text like, yo, Dave, I like that idea from Eric. He's going to listen to this episode. He's going to hit us up. Uh-huh. Almost definitely. Um, yeah. Yeah. That's a fun idea. I don't know how to segue off of that into anything else. What type of coffee did you have today? Uh, I can't remember the full name of it. It's called Supreme.
00:31:12
Speaker
But it's not Supreme branded, right? It's not that Supreme. Oh, OK. But Dave's leading into this. I started to have some trouble with my Keurig. So I did buy an AeroPress. And they have like the plastic, hardened plastic version. And then they also have like a poly plastic glass type variant. It feels like glass. That's the one I got. And I freaking love it. Yeah, it does.
00:31:41
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Definitely increase the amount of time from winch from winch from where I decide I want coffee to the point that the coffee is available to be drunk. But I like the ritual of it. I like the brewing process. Yeah, I tried it for a little bit. I did like it instead of like having to make like a whole pot and all that craziness. But I became a little bit lazy with it and I've
00:32:08
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gone back to energy drinks or, Oh, look, it's coffee from the store. Yeah. I mean, I still do store coffee. I still do energy drinks. It's definitely a different vibe because like an energy drink has an amount of caffeine that is far and above what a cup of coffee will provide. Yes. There's no energy drink ritual where you're like, ah, I put it in the freezer for 15 minutes. I took it out. I put it in a glass. I did one of the giant ice cubes. So melt slower over time and not dilute it too much. Right. Okay.
00:32:39
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Cause that's a dangerous ritual. Just like with magic, if you mess up in one of the steps, there might be like magical blowback or some sort of issue. Um, maybe the demon that you summon is not under your control. In that case, if you put it in the freezer and you forget to come back to it, that is an energy drink in the freezer, right? There will be an explosion, a magical explosion. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I, I do like it. It kind of.
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00:33:07
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It's a little harder to step away for just like two minutes during work and do it, but I actually don't think that's a bad thing. Cause it means like, if I step away to take a little bit of a break, it's like, Oh, this is, I'm stepping away for like five minutes to do this. Right. So it's a nice part of reset on something. Yeah, you can focus on just like, I smell the coffee grounds. Okay. I've measured it out. Oh, there's that hot cup of coffee.
00:33:33
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And there's something relaxing about it, probably more so from the hot beverage standpoint than like the jitteriness of caffeine. Yeah. Um, like I would make tea the same way. It's true. Yeah. Do you drink tea?
00:33:47
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Ah, not as much as I used to. I feel like my tea drinking always spikes when it's like my throat feels off. And then I drink tea for like two weeks. I buy a whole thing of honey. Um, and just like whatever flavor of teabag. Right. But I'll be like, Oh yeah, tea is good. And then I'll have coffee again. I'm like, yo, tea ain't shit. And then I just never drink tea again until I get sick. Yeah.
00:34:15
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Yeah, that's fair. But there's so many good teas. I feel coffee, love coffee. You can do a lot with a bunch of different flavor profiles, but they're profiles. Whereas tea has like completely different flavors entirely. And there's different styles of tea between green, black, oolong. I think oolong is a type of green tea. I'm not familiar. I'm not going to be able to tell you.
00:34:43
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Yeah, there's like so much, so much in it. Right. Where if you're like, Oh, I want blueberry and lemon, they're like, yeah, we got you for that. Yeah. That's the eternal struggle between the beans and the leaves. That's the coffee versus tea debate. What if, what if I made bean leaf soup? Hmm. Interesting. I guess people put leaves in a lot of food. If you think about it, that's what spices, a lot of spices come from leaves or roots or branches or whatever, I guess.
00:35:14
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How do you feel about the, uh, if you have an almond milk, what is it? Almond milk latte, like a macchiato or something. But basically you're having just like three different types of bean juice. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is funny to think about. Um, I don't know if an almond is a bean. It's a, it's a not, isn't it? I think an almond's a nut, but I get what you're saying, right? These are all the products off the, off the leaf or off the branch or some sort of tree.
00:35:46
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Yeah. I don't know. I the loom. I find like the older I get, the more I appreciate. I don't want to say like earthy things, but yeah. I want to say natural things. Maybe it is just I've been to Whole Foods a few too many times and now I. Now I'm just a hippie. Now I'm there is you just you know, you haven't gone too far as long as you can still appreciate a good burger. Right. As long as that's. Oh, yeah. I'm never going to.
00:36:16
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turn down a burger and fries or like a hot dog, maybe depending on the situation. But sometimes it's also exactly what you want. Yeah. Speaking of good burger.
00:36:28
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No, they're making two things. Uh, two, apparently there's like a movie or something. Nobody cares, but, um, they're also Arby's has a good burger. I want to send you a link to those. Um, I didn't know Arby's had burgers. I thought they were very much in the roast, roast beef. Right. And I think it would be absolutely reasonable for you to continue to believe that.
00:36:57
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But I saw this, I went to Arby's again for roast beef, like a normal person. And yeah, they have a good burger, a Nickelodeon good burger two meal streaming on Paramount Plus. That's the full name of it. You have to say the whole thing if you want to order it.
00:37:15
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Oh, that is just so much advertising in one thing. I hate it. Also, the picture that Jake sent here has those crinkle cut fries where my mind always goes to like, oh, so they're barely crispy on the outside and they're just, you know, potato mush. Right. Like these are the types of things you'd shake out onto a metal tray, put in the oven and they come out meh.
00:37:41
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The other fun thing here is if you look at this, so it's a, it's a wet, is it Wagyu? Is that the way you say the Wagyu? Wagyu. Yeah. Wagyu burger, but it's a blend. It's 51% American Wagyu and 49% ground beef, which I guess is just so they can have the majority Wagyu. Probably. Cause they call it a Wagyu steakhouse burger pattern. That.
00:38:07
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Like if you've been to a place and had like a wagyu steak, like it is an expensive thing because it's like a specific cut of meat where it's like marbled so fine. But then be like, oh, yeah, you can just go get that quality thing at Arby's. I'm like suspicious. Doubt. Mashes the doubt. It's it's it's 51 percent wagyu and 49 percent soiling green. So.
00:38:38
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Oh my God. I haven't been back in a while though. Cause every time I see like these roast beef sandwiches, I like, I like seeing the pile of roast beef, especially when it comes out hot. Like the, the bun steam just a little bit. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Then you hit up to some of that dipping sauce. Yeah. Really do miss it. The beef and chatter classic is just like, that is our beast to me. That is exactly their thing. Um, the other thing is you mentioned the crinkle crinkle cut fries.
00:39:07
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I think if a place offered like traditional American French fries and then the option of crinkle cut, I would go for crinkle cut. But if they offered crinkle cut and they offered curly fries, I would pretty much always go for curly fries. Yeah, curly fries are just seasoned better. I don't know why they don't do that seasoning on everything, but it's so much more tasty than just potato.
00:39:34
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I feel like if you're going just potato, you go potato wedges, but then you have like a thick ass gravy to go with it to counteract the bland starchiness of the potato. Yeah. This is, this is going beyond fast food into like actual edible good food at this point. That's what you're just, I don't know. I, I kind of want to cook at some point this weekend.
00:39:53
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Like I have a whole bag of potatoes. Like I can maybe use some of that for mashed potatoes. Right. Um, practice my hand at that. It's pretty much just potatoes, milk, butter, maybe some garlic and seasonings, but I don't know. I like the, I guess the ritual of cooking. I think that's fair. You actually mentioned something though, when you said mashed potatoes, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna rep one of our friends here who was also a special guest, uh, Demooch.
00:40:23
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Yeah. On twitch.tv slash the mooch. Last night, he was talking about. So there's the game, the F Mary Kill game for for Thanksgiving foods. And the options were, if I remember correctly, he had stuffing, mashed potatoes and turkey. And he was asking his audience, I guess this is an 18 plus channel on Twitch, I don't know, asking his audience what their F Mary Kill
00:40:52
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order was for turkey, mashed potatoes, and stuffing. What would that be for you? I knew it was going to come to me so I had to start thinking about it.
00:41:05
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mashed potatoes. I love good mashed potatoes, especially that are like a little bit lumpy. It is amazing. But stuffing, especially like the box mix, God tier. It also reheats well. It just has so much flavor baked into it. And then turkey.
00:41:28
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I mean, that's another huge part of Thanksgiving mashed potatoes. You could replace with anything, but if you took out stuffing or Turkey, I think you're committing a mortal sin. Right. So fuck.
00:41:43
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Fuck stuffing for sure. Yeah. Is this probably married to Turkey? And this is this is because of attraction to stuffing. Yes. Yes. OK. Like I see the box mix and my eyes light up. Turkey I could live with forever and then I would just kill mashed potatoes. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree. I agree. Stuffing is top tier. That's got to be there.
00:42:13
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I think I agree with your list entirely, actually. The problem, part of the problem I think is the way this is framed is it wasn't mashed potatoes and gravy, right? Yeah. Because one of the, and you mentioned you got like some, a gobbler, right, for Thanksgiving. One of the things about, that's amazing about the gobbler is it's like carbs, and then I guess potatoes are also kind of carbs. And then, you know, the gravy and the turkey and all of that stuff together,
00:42:44
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And that's actually still pretty much ideal to what I would do with a plate. I'm going to be taking that gravy with those mashed potatoes, getting it on the turkey, all that stuff. And the turkey is really just the canvas that all of these more interesting foods go on top of to me.
00:43:03
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Yeah. I think also like for stuffing, it stands on its own. Whereas Turkey, you kind of need gravy. Like I couldn't just have me, I could, but I would want gravy with Turkey. I would want grave with mashed potatoes. And I think they're better for it. Yes. Yeah. We're just eating plain turkey. It's never, it's never super great. I get that. It's a healthier meat. If you're having like a sandwich or something like that, but
00:43:33
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You gotta, you gotta have something else with Turkey, right? Like I feel like even if you're just to order a Turkey sandwich from like local gas station or whatever, um, you gotta get like Sriracha or something. There has to be some counterbalance that's making it way more interesting than just Turkey. Yes. Turkey by itself is not always the best. Like when I cook a ground Turkey.
00:43:58
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Like it just kind of turns gray. And then I'm like, I wish I had beef, but a lot of that is because beef's a fattier meat and, but with fat carries a lot of flavor. It's true.
00:44:12
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That's what I've told people in my life whenever they're like, Hey, you need to be healthier. And I'm like, I will lose character. It's like, taste me. I'm actually fine. Yeah. Doctors don't like to hang around when they're, their feedback to telling you how you're doing health-wise is taste me. I'm fine. Please doctor, believe me. Just, um, that's fair. That is entirely fair.
00:44:41
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Did I ever tell you there was one Thanksgiving up at my dad's side of the family? No. Did I ever tell you that I've been to Thanksgiving dinner? I don't believe I've heard this one. But my uncle and aunt had to work the next day because they didn't have Friday off.
00:44:56
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Well, but I was just up visiting. This is probably, I was going to say over the summer. No, it was during Thanksgiving. Yeah. But I was off as well or it was around whenever it was. I didn't have any obligations. So I was just at their house and we had all these leftovers in the fridge. I'm like, what if? And then I spent most of the day planning a Thanksgiving tacos dinner. Oh, OK. So I was like taking the turkey, cutting it up fine, putting it in a skillet.
00:45:26
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Um, I tried doing something with the cranberry. It was actually like diced cranberries. It wasn't like the canned as kind of like a, here's your Pico de gallo. Um, I got out tortillas for everybody and I basically had like hail seated leftovers, but in a tortilla for the most part. Um,
00:45:48
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But I had fun with it. I don't know. Yeah. That sounds interesting. I had my doubts when I was hearing tacos and it's like, I don't know if a hard shell taco could really make this work or tortilla. I could see making it work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. No, I could definitely see it. I also like that. That's very novel, right? Yeah. It's.
00:46:07
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Not something I've ever experienced, the idea of going to bring a burrito to the mouth and being like, this is going to be turkey and stuffing and gravy or whatever. It's got to be a little bit disconcerting. But you got to push the boundaries, right? Someone's got to be innovating, keeping food science moving forward. You're a scientist.
00:46:28
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Yeah, I'm really just trying to further the cause. AKA my non-subber brain's like, I like these two foods. How do I slam them together? I just had a thought, you know, like in BioShock for Rapture, they brought a bunch of people down that were there because they wanted to experiment with ethics and things like that, that like we're disallowed on the surface, on the surface. So they're like, okay, like no religion, but we're going to experiment with like,
00:46:53
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biology, and sciences, and all of this stuff. And I'm just imagining Dave down there with his ungodly food experiments. He's like, the surface would never understand. Putting pineapple on pizza. Uh-huh. People just trying to hold him back, arms in both arms grabbed. No, no. The pineapple completes it. I stand by it. It is fucking delicious. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:47:22
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I don't know. Do you have any food and mortal sins that like for you, like, no, people can't do that. Oh, I mean, definitely. But I don't know if I can think of any of them off the top of my head. Some people use cream cheese. Yeah. Like sour cream for things I would never do. Like what? Like, I don't know. I guess I have a much more traditional view of those those those creams and things like that. So I'm like, oh, you know, sour cream is
00:47:51
Speaker
It's good for chili. It's good for tacos, something like that. And then that's it. It's a very vanilla puritanical view. So it couldn't be in something else as far as like a meal. Yeah. It's like, once you start like people, I guess a common one people I've heard people do is like peanut butter and pickles. And I'm just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't like that.
00:48:18
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Like I like the brine of pickles. Love it. Peanuts will kill me. So, but I also don't want a weird texture around my pickle. I want the tickle. I want it to tickle. Maybe I'm projecting. I want the pickle to be crisp. I want to, I want to have a nice crunch with it and then give me the salt and vinegar, please. Exactly.
00:48:40
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And that's the issue, if you put pickles on anything that's just like a sandwich, a timer begins, right? And it's like the pickles will saturate this whole wheat platform you place them on in one minute, 30 seconds, you know, consume, right? Yeah, you have to layer it, because I hate when it soaks in the bread and you have like pickle bread. Uh-huh, yeah. Not a fair amount of that. For sure.
00:49:06
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But I'm sure there's other examples, anything for you where you're like, this is anathema. This is the line I would not cross. One thing that jumps to mind was during college, they had like the condiment dispensers. Well, ketchup was a common one for everything, but they also had one was like, Oh, it's a cheese sauce. And I love cheese sauce on fries. I love ketchup on fries. I'm like, Oh, surely if I mix these two things together, it won't make me want to throw up.
00:49:34
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Right. But I tried it once and I was like revolted and other people were trying it at the table. I think a lot of people are like, that's disgusting. One or two people are like, no, it's fine. But for me, you cannot mix cheese sauce and ketchup. Yeah. I mean, cheese and ketchup, that's a known good quantity, but cheese sauce is not cheese. It's very true that I could see that. I could definitely see that one. Yeah.
00:50:06
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But yeah, we're also on the East coast and there's a bunch of like legacy foods and things here that I don't really understand like pork rinds. And these are not combinations. So this is just a direct judgment of someone eating something. Um, but like, if it's like skin or I don't even know what rind means or a hoof or something like that, I'm pretty much out. I don't think I'm as eating hoofs, Jake. No, outside of like gelatin. Um, yeah.
00:50:35
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I mean, eating glue, I would defend that one. I think that one's sanctioned. I will say I'm not a fan of like, is it pork skins or pig ears? Yeah. And stuff like that. Yeah.
00:50:51
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That I've found to be pretty disgusting. Wasn't really a fan. Like I can see the appeal for it of like, it's a salty, crunchy thing, but just was not on board with the taste. It's just like potato chips exist, right? Like if you wanted a salty, crunchy thing, then potato chips are great. Give me a kettle cooked, like a kettle cooked original. Don't add any extra flavor to it. Just give me the salt. We're done. Yeah, exactly. Bonus points for salt and vinegar though.
00:51:21
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I was going to say, I was just thinking about vinegar. And I think on the opposite side, something that I respect deeply that I think others find, they take umbrage against is the usage of vinegar in food. I'm just like, if I want an Italian sandwich or something like that.
00:51:38
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It can always be improved by a dash of vinegar. It has even less time before it sinks into that whole wheat platform you placed it on or whatever, but it doesn't matter. Vinegar is too good. Just flap it on there.
00:51:53
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I've, back when I used to work with Jake and we'd go out to lunch to grab sandwiches and whatnot, he would usually grab a large bag of salt and vinegar chips. And he's like, when I have some with lunch, I'll take some home. And then in two days, Jake's like, I gotta stop eating salt and vinegar chips. My mouth is entirely cut off. My tongue hurts. Yeah. No, it's...
00:52:17
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You pay a price. You pay a price if you eat a bunch of salt and vinegar chips, especially like, I don't know if they, so on the west coast, they had like Tim's Cascade brand was probably one of the more potent brands. Like on the east coast, there's a couple that are like, uh, is it Baltic vinegar, malt vinegar, malt vinegar.
00:52:39
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Um, that are like very, very strong. They're just incredibly powerful and you can't sit down and eat a bag of these jams. You're going to have a bad time. No, they're good for like you put shakes them out on the plate a little bit more. If you want to spice up your sandwich, put like a couple of flat chips somewhere in there. You get like a nice little added crunch and nice burst of flavor. I've always liked doing that, but I often forget to do that.
00:53:10
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Like I'm not usually assembling a sandwich. I'm like, where are the chips at? It's kind of like hitting your taste buds with a defibrillator in the middle of whatever your normal meal was. They're just like, okay, this is fine. This is fine. Oh God. What is that? Oh, I thought of one other one that I like that other people may not like. And this is a, this is a single ingredient, but I also use it for other things. Cottage cheese. How do you feel about cottage cheese?
00:53:37
Speaker
I haven't had it in so long. Back in the day, we used to have cottage cheese mixed with apple butter. Like you kind of spread that on toast. Interesting. What do you use it in? No, this is actually coming off specifically the chips. I actually like to take a portion of salt and vinegar chips and then mix it in with cottage cheese. I just crush it up and it's just like.
00:54:02
Speaker
It diffuses how aggressive the chips are. And then cottage cheese has no calories in it. So it's literally almost nothing. Really? Yeah. If you eat a full container of cottage cheese, it's like 150 calories, a large one. That's insane. Yeah. There's nothing. It could be because it's also the low-fat version or whatever. But cottage cheese has very few calories by comparison. I have no idea why.
00:54:34
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Yeah, I just thought it was a dairy thing, therefore, a lot of calories. Yeah, I actually don't know what kind of cheese is, but that comes from my upbringing. Oh, Jake. Oh, Jake. Me neither.
00:54:49
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Because because my dad really liked it and he did the same thing. He's just like, oh, yeah, put some chips in there. In my mind, there's like the in terms of Pokemon, right? There's like your base of like dairy, a.k.a. milk. And then there's like different evolution paths based on like which moonstone or whatever stone you give it. And one of them is sour cream, right? That's true. Yeah. Another one's yogurt. Another one's cheese. Another one's cottage cheese.
00:55:20
Speaker
Why does yogurt surprise you? It's like, it's like, well, I guess it's not inherently sweet. People add sweetener to it, but it's like, this goes in the dessert tree of dairy. It can. Yeah. But like they all share like a similar properties to a degree, but they're just so wildly different. Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker
Also, I love sour cream. Landon, if you're listening, fuck you. Sour cream's delicious. It goes great in so many things, specifically most like Spanish and Mexican food. Can be used in Chile as well. Very nice. It goes back to that thing you were describing with like the ground turkey versus having some beef or something like that with some fat in it. It's like that is what cream is. We are just mixing some fat into it, but you know what? It's delicious.
00:56:09
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Yeah, don't deprive yourself of that. Also, I do recommend you try that. Cottage cheese, apple butter with apple butter. Interesting. Yeah, that's the evolution going to like the dessert type path, a sweet path. Yes, very much so. But I haven't tried that. I might have to consider it. Also, apple butter, best type of butter there is. Don't you can't cook with it in the same way? I want to point that out.
00:56:38
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If you're going to be, you know, sauteing a chicken or caramelizing onions, don't use apple butter. Actually, what if we're sending in a rapture and you start with butter, right? You saute your onions and you caramelize them as you normally would. Then as you're finishing, maybe cook in a little bit of apple butter with it. Interesting. Because when the onions caramelize, they're going to become sweeter anyway. They're going to cook down as the water evaporates.
00:57:09
Speaker
Because it's very savory, very sweet. A little apple butter in there? Mm-hmm. I don't know, Dave. I think you're rapidly approaching some sort of dessert onion. And I think they're going to knock your door down. Well, it's like you have caramelized apple or caramelized onion. That's fair. Or it's just one thin layer of caramel over a full onion. Can you imagine that?
00:57:38
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Because they didn't feel it either. I don't know if they have food paint, but I know they have food dye. So you could dye an onion, just a white onion to roughly look like an apple. And if you put caramel over it, you could. You could have a caramelized onion on a stick. Yeah. It would be awful. It would be so bad.
00:58:04
Speaker
I think everybody likes onions to a degree. It goes in so many things because everyone was like, hey, do you want a bite of it? And you're like, no, that's not how that goes. It's either cut up in a salad or it's being cooked. Nobody's munch munching on that. It's pretty intense to just take a bite out of an onion. I would say it is. It'd be like eating a garlic clove, I feel. Yeah, people definitely do not meant to be.
00:58:32
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Like I consider myself, part of this is just cause I wanted to be edgy, but like, I'll like, I'll take a bite out of a lemon or like eat the rind or do something like that. Cause it's fine. It's edible. It actually, it, I mean, it tastes better, but I mean, so does lemon. Um, and it's a, it's a, it's a neat little party trick. You know, you're like, Oh, I just ate, I just ate a lemon, whatever. An onion is beyond that. That's way, way too pungent.
00:59:01
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Yeah, for sure. Well, as we approach the end of our time with our listeners here, I want to definitely thank people for listening. It's not the end of the year recap, so I can't get too sentimental. You save it for that.
00:59:20
Speaker
It is nice to be able to chat with friends. In fact, I want to, I want to commemorate this episode to our special guests who continually come on. We share none of the wealth that flows into this podcast. Um, Dave said we used to work together. I think that's a little misleading. Obviously our primary gig is the podcast now. Um, so we still do work together, but
00:59:45
Speaker
It's nice that people come on here just for exposure. I think we shouted out one person this year, this episode. Yeah, we used to do that a lot more. Maybe we should get back to that. Well, I don't know. I don't know what people have going on, but I guess it was always on the table. Maybe we should let them know that it was always on the table.
01:00:09
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Maybe with our posts, we can have like a friends of the show thing where we'll just shout somebody out or like a static list of people who are like, hey, they're cool. We'll go check them out. Yeah, for sure. They can't also be doing a podcast. That's what I think our one rule. That is the one rule, right? Stay in your lane, as they say. This is our only lane, please. Please, sir. It's a bike lane.
01:00:33
Speaker
We had, I forwarded this to Dave. We talked about it a little bit, but we got a, uh, an email into the soapstone inbox. I mean, we always talk about this way earlier. I forgot about it. There's a lot to go through, but you know, the, um, everyone thinks about birds when it comes to Thanksgiving chickens primarily. And that's what the team was about. Uh, it was an offer to have someone come in and speak with us about the process of raising chickens.
01:01:03
Speaker
For which type of podcast are we? A video game podcast, I think, officially. Right, but what did the email say? The email was for Chickenlandia was the name of it, but it's a YouTube channel about raising chickens. Right, but they were reaching out to us because we're a... Oh, I don't actually remember what the wording was for that. Because they thought we were a homeschooling podcast. That's what it was. That's correct. Yes, yes, yes.
01:01:33
Speaker
So we're very curious how that got flagged as such because while we might have something informational here and there, uh, mainly we talk about video games and bullshit. So, no. Yeah. The title was let's transform homeschooling with chickens on your podcast. I was like, we cover a lot of things. This will be, this will be a 90 degree turn for our listeners. We also did debate the possibility of like, what if we.
01:02:01
Speaker
had this person on, what would we talk to them about? And then I think we kind of both agree that it would pretty much just be them trying to shill their thing. And we really have no overlap and nothing to talk to them about outside of being like, so what is chicken landy? And then just listening. Yeah, it was a very cordial email. I replied clarifying. They got back to us and thanked us for the clarification, said all the best to you.
01:02:31
Speaker
Um, I don't know. It was, it was a lot more human to human contact than I expect with these types of messages. So I guess all the best of them. I don't know much about them, but, um, yeah, unfortunately, I don't think the dialogue would be very good. I agree with you for, maybe if we had a chicken on, uh-huh. Yeah. We have had some really out there podcasts, but.
01:02:58
Speaker
I think that, or I should say podcast episodes, but that would be, that would be a little bit of a bridge too far. A bridge too far will be the title of our next book coming out this December. If somebody wants to pick up an early copy, you can click the link below for a 10% out, our subscribers and anybody who's with us on Patreon can use the 20% link, which we'll be sending out as well. It's good.
01:03:23
Speaker
I've listened to too many podcasts and I'm like, oh, this is rote. Yes, exactly. Right. Maybe someday we'll find some, some way to monetize our master massive listenership. But until then, we'll just have to thank you. Um, so thank you for listening. Hopefully you've had a good Thanksgiving, um, and found some things to be thankful for.
01:03:45
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and wishing you the best. And we will definitely get around. See you guys in the next one. Do you have any final words, Dave, for our listenership or did I take all of them?
01:03:56
Speaker
I will say, if you're listening to this, please post food pictures on this episode, or send them to me directly if you know me personally. I like seeing food pictures, makes me want to cook, makes me jealous of the food you ate, and it's just, I don't know, I like it. I like food. Yeah.
01:04:16
Speaker
So, if you have those food picks and you want to send them to both of us, you could do so at soapstonepodcast.gmail.com. Or you could join the discussion on Facebook, which is entirely dedicated to food pictures at this point, at facebook.com slash soapstonepodcast. And as always, we'll see you in the next one. Gobble gobble.