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Season 2- Episode 6- Premiership Preview
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World Cup match cancellations got you down? SAY NO MORE! Your favorite rugby hammerheads from stateside are here to rescue you. In this special episode we preview all things Gallagher Premiership, who goes to Twickenham & takes the crown, who makes top 4 & top 6, who goes down and who could be the dark horse to crash the party. Of course we talk fantasy too! We give our advice on Fantasy Rugby Draft rankings and perhaps some busts to avoid, along with sleepers to grab late. We also have a look at The Rugby Magazine format, players that will be worth their price and players that you wanna steer very far away from. Kick back and soak in all the fantasy rugby knowledge as we get geared of the kickoff of the competition next weekend.
Ask us questions or reach via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar or e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via those methods are rating/reviewing the pod on iTunes.
We will have both Premiership Rugby Magazine and Fantasy Rugby Draft leagues for you to partake in. Hit us up if you want in on the action!
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Transcript
Introduction and Premiership Rugby Preview
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey guys, how's it going? It is the fancy rugby. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We are here to talk about the premier ship because it is a little more than a week away. So we're going to climb into this thing and start riding that horse just a little bit because, yeah, the World Cup's going on and, you know, who gives a shit? For this specific pod, who gives a shit? No, we can throw it out the window, but obviously,
00:00:34
Speaker
Pay very close attention to it if you're a rugby fan. What's wrong with you? Right.
00:00:39
Speaker
So yeah, although there is the business of people that aren't gonna understand, I don't know which world cup I'm watching, because they've taken away the gender from world cup to, it's no longer men's and women's world cup, it's just the world cup. I'm gonna give you a hint, 2023 is the next one that involves the gentlemen that are playing right now. If there's another one, it's probably not them. Probably the ladies. Yeah, just do the math there, rocket scientist, good job.
Rugby Mag Upgrades and Fantasy League Invitations
00:01:10
Speaker
So again, we've been pushing it all year, but it's for a good reason. It's because you need the damn thing. Trust me, you need this. Rugby mag upgrades. Go check them out. If you're...
00:01:22
Speaker
cooler than us and you get like the next two levels up please let us know what else there is because I mean it says it adds that does a pretty good job in describing what there is there but I also would like to know what it actually is right so please share because there's a lot of stuff that even though you kind of look through for the upgrade that we got
00:01:39
Speaker
It's still it's so much more than than I expected and it's it's a lot the the setting your lineup You know, I spent a significant amount of time on my of my my mornings on Fridays combing through Twitter finding finding the the lineups and then creating a spreadsheet that I then shared with Jared because That was my country. Thank God. Yeah, it was like here's who's here's your your lineups. Here's who's starting. Here's whose reserves
00:02:06
Speaker
Because it's so difficult to set your lineup around that without knowing without that knowledge Yeah, and with the the upgrades that you can get from from the rugged magazine It tells you right there if your player is starting if he's not in the lineup If he's a reserve you can just look at the the dot color next to his name and you're good to go and and remember if You don't get your line upset when this sucker kicks off. It's not like the World Cup one
00:02:30
Speaker
You are done. You're you better have your bench set and you better have some good players on your bench because you will be hosed otherwise Indeed. Yeah, and we do have we do have a league on TRM. So make sure you check us out Yeah, come join us. Yeah, come and join us and play along and we'll have a little bit of fun together throughout the There's gonna be a long season because this thing's not done till End of May June. Yeah Actually, I think this one goes into June this time. Nice. I remember I-
00:02:57
Speaker
So yeah, it'll be long. We're gonna be together for a long time kids.
Live Podcast Announcement and Key Matches Overview
00:03:00
Speaker
So everybody settle in and let's all just hang out Yeah cuddle up next to each other We and we do also have some frd stuff to talk about the draft rugby Yep, so and we do have a league make sure you get us hit us up Still space available. I'm gonna hold it for people that actually want to play that are listening to the pod. I'll open it up eventually Probably midweek this week
00:03:22
Speaker
So in the next couple days if if it's not open yet, then just keep checking back and if you don't if you're a little shy It's okay. Yeah, we don't bite. We won't talk shit about you much. Yeah, I bite about this. Okay, so
00:03:38
Speaker
And then obviously this coming weekend, we're gonna do a live pod one way or the other. So keep your eyes peeled on our Twitter accounts for the link to that and watch us make an ass of ourselves. So let's talk about this thing that the boys in black won.
00:03:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's been it's been a long it feels like forever since the last premierships Yeah, we obviously started delayed this year as well. It's usually right mid-september by the time we've kicked off But that's what's going on. So yeah, damn it Yeah, stupid. Yeah
00:04:11
Speaker
But yeah, the premier so premiership kicking off in a couple weeks Bath and Bristol get us going as they as they did last year. I'm sure bath will pray to god. It's not the same result It might be we'll see both clubs look keen and neither Bath and missing a couple of really key guys actually together, but Bristol's got some too We'll get to that when we get into the permission
00:04:35
Speaker
next week or at least when we get into the fancy stuff but let's talk um let's talk top four relegation dark horses top six um so the guys the teams that obviously there's there was a surprise last year that a couple surprises that we saw Bristol pushed for top six right which was great and then Gloucester obviously climbed their way into the playoff which was
00:04:57
Speaker
Good to see a little bit of a change in the garden there. You know, was and Lester kind of both been there quite a bit. But last year was Lester. Yeah. But Northampton and and Gloucester both climbed their way back into the playoff
Team Challenges and Predictions for Premiership
00:05:10
Speaker
this year. So it was I obviously remember the days when Northampton had some really good teams and
00:05:15
Speaker
They're they're back to that which is really good for the for the prep because Franklin Gardens is obviously a great place They host the sevens tournament. I think they've hosted like three or four years now For the Premiership seven, which is in Saracen's one again. They did. Yes they did everybody was pipping the wasps and the Saints and and this that this that and then the Saracen says I
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, we'll win this too. Fuck you all. Yeah, big time. So obviously we have new boys. Yeah, let's start with them. So I guess this answers the relegation question in a way. Where do we think they land?
00:05:53
Speaker
Are they gonna are they are they gonna be one of those teams that scraping and scrapping by the end of the season? It's gonna be tough because again, it's a lot of players are coming they you know with the promotion The the one Irish are gonna be
00:06:08
Speaker
struggling at first, because they're going to have to learn to work with each other. They have some talent. There is no denying the talent that they're bringing to the table this year. It's just how well will they work together. And that's going to take them, I would say, probably half a season to sort that shit out. Because, I mean, you look at even teams that have been together, it takes them
00:06:28
Speaker
a good little bit to sort themselves out as to where they are, shake off the rusts and whatnot. And it's going to be even more intense this year since the World Cup's going on. You're going to be adding a lot of players a couple of weeks into the competition. So it's going to be tough for the Irish. They have a rough go at it.
00:06:48
Speaker
You look at super talented teams, and this is going to predate a few people that are around here. A team that went down for Northampton that had, I think, Carlos Spencer on it, and it was a pretty loaded team, but it ended up being a hard rift in the locker room, which absolutely killed the team, and they dropped.
00:07:08
Speaker
and it was not a team that you're expected to drop by any means whatsoever and so yeah talent does not equal not dropping right yeah let's just that's how it is right and and there's a lot of the you know the players who were playing i mean they they weren't you know at the championship level for that long but at the same time
00:07:27
Speaker
It's still going to be an adjustment for some of the players and then again, working together. So that they're, they're kind of behind the eight ball, um, as it is now. And then, um, they still have the teams that struggled from last year. And they'll at least be have that experience of knowing how to maybe navigate it, even if it's by a point.
00:07:46
Speaker
Right. I mean, I doubt that Lester is going to be firing their coach after one week again this year, but they're still going to struggle because they struggled last year. And again, they're adding talent, but they're at the same time, they're losing talent with the World Cup. So they're going to be like their best players are.
00:08:03
Speaker
not going to be available for the first couple of weeks. Easily, yeah. So what are they going to, you know, how are they going to respond to that? You know, they're going to be starting out again, just like the Irish a little bit behind the eight ball, even if with the people they're bringing in.
00:08:19
Speaker
Right. And, you know, the saying is, you won't get relegated in the first week, you won't win the championship in the first week, but you can put yourself in a corner for either one of them within the first few weeks if you're not if you're not careful. So yeah, they're the one Irish might be the I think I think they'll be OK. Yeah. But they will have to definitely scrape for every point and they better covet every break that
Top Contenders and Squad Depth Analysis
00:08:45
Speaker
they get.
00:08:45
Speaker
I mean, they'll be in the bottom five. They're not going to, you know, they're not going to be in the top. There's something I can be in the top six. Yeah, I feel like they'll be kind of that, you know, the nine, 10 spot probably. Probably not wrong.
00:08:59
Speaker
So let's start on the, let's do the positive end. Let's do the positive end first as best we can here. So both of us being Sari supporters, I don't think we'll ever doubt that they get into the top four at the very least. I'm not going to try and predict one through four because I am not that, I'm not that talented.
00:09:19
Speaker
Exeter chiefs, without a doubt, will definitely be in there, especially with the addition of a man named Stuart Hogg. He's probably coming home early. If you've been paying attention to the World Cup, there's a high likelihood he's coming home early. So here's my question. If we're going to talk about that Exeter there and we're bringing in Hogg, but they're losing Cordero.
00:09:38
Speaker
Yep, just this hog do more than cordero did um certainly got a better foot he does than cordero does but boy cordero could do some fun things with that ball like he could and and his dancing and and and Line breaks are going to be and and defenders beaten are going to be huge. I just don't know that you know hog's gonna bring his own thing to the to the team right that cordero didn't but
00:10:01
Speaker
I think they really needed what Cordero brought. So I'm not sure that bringing something different is going to be helpful for Exeter. Right. So I think as great a player as Hugg is, it's almost to me. And it's shocking to say it, but it's almost a lateral move. Yeah. I mean, for them, yeah. For him, it was definitely not great. Oh, yeah. He's obviously a fantastic player. And Glasgow was not a bad place to be, but it's tough to...
00:10:29
Speaker
But Exeter and Saris are probably going to be your top two. Certainly both are going to be top four. High likelihood on that one. And I'm going to talk about my side piece. I'm going to jump in on that with Gloucester, who I think, again, like you said, you're not going to win to go the other way. You're not going to win the top of the table in the first weeks. But you could lose it. You could lose a little bit. I think Gloucester, because of who they have on their squad and who's not in Japan,
00:10:57
Speaker
which is pretty much everybody from their team. With the exception of a couple guys, yeah. With the exception of a couple guys here there, like Heinz isn't there, but they got capable backups. Yep. Bradley's not there either, Pledry. Right. Pledry's not there. You know, he's still got Ben Morgan. He's still got a bunch of guys. Oh, yeah. You can ball out. There's still some pretty damn good players on that team. I think they're going to start out well. They're probably going to be top of the table. I think they're going to be top of the table for a couple weeks.
00:11:20
Speaker
and then before they come a little bit back down to earth but i think they're still gonna be top four um i think they could be even you know with with cipriani having a year under his belt needs to stay healthy and need to stay healthy but number one thing for him but it took them a little bit to again just as we talked about with the the London Irish
00:11:38
Speaker
It took Gloucester a little bit to gel last year with behind Cipriani They were like he was missing passes but he was putting them in places where he thought guys would be and they just weren't there Once they sorted it out. It was like fucking butter. Hmm. So yeah, I could see great looking stuff, right? So now they've got that year under their belts. I think Gloucester are gonna be Certainly, I think they're gonna be challenging for top two. Yeah, I think though I think top three is definitive for them. They'll end up getting
00:12:03
Speaker
the middle game, either one, whoever that ends up happening to be. But I don't think you're going to see the last couple of weeks where it's like, yeah, Exeter and Saris can kind of take a rest. It's going to be much tighter up there. I think so too. I think this will be a tooth and nail season all the way till the last couple of weeks there.
Mid-Table Teams and Transfer Impact
00:12:20
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. It makes it for way more fun.
00:12:23
Speaker
Can Northampton hang on to that fourth spot or is there going to be another team to pimp them? Lost have made some additions. Obviously Northampton have as well. Quinn's have made a lot of additions as well. They just missed out last year. I mean, Lester have ambitions whether or not they get theirs.
00:12:40
Speaker
story. Bristol definitely have ambitions. It'll be interesting. Obviously, they've signed some pretty good guys. So we'll see what that turns into. I just don't know. Again, it depends on what the Wasps do. If they played, they were kind of a schizophrenic team last year or multiple personalities where some days they were like, yeah, we're just going to bash it. We're going to bash it. And some days they were like, yeah, that's
00:13:04
Speaker
You know, especially when they played championship cup when they played champions cup. Yeah, they threw it all over the joint and look different They didn't really the result wasn't there but they still looked like hey they kind of belonged right where they didn't really do that in the premiership so With their additions they could be pushing for that top six spot and Bristol I think I think they have a much more team focused Pat lam's doing a pretty darn. He's doing a great job and they made some additions, but they made additions to that kind of like
00:13:36
Speaker
They fill gaps more than they're, oh, we're going to get this guy, and he's just going to come in. I mean, look at Christian Judge and Will Stewart. Those are guys who are teen guys, and they'll be up front as props that they're guys you're going to want to think about playing yourself.
00:13:55
Speaker
Um, and only judge went to bath. Um, sorry judge judge went to bath. Wrong B. Oh, I'm sorry. I was looking at the wrong team. Yep. Um, forget that I was, I was, okay. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Uh, Nathan Hughes, that's where I was. Yeah. And Dave Atwood are two guys. Yeah, I'll get to the right team. Absolutely. Those are guys who are like, you know what? He was, he, he, he's not, he's a big boss. He's a hoose.
00:14:18
Speaker
And he's kind of what Bristol need. Yes. As far as, yeah, you're going to give him the ball and just let him leave a wake of bodies trailing behind him. And kind of same with Atwood. He'll be good in line out situations, too, and really helping out. He's a very solid line out situation for that. Yeah. And so you already got your Terry Thacker, who was looking pretty good before now. And now it's, you got, yeah.
00:14:40
Speaker
to add another dimension to that, and they should be pretty good. So yeah, I would definitely pick them to challenge for top six. Very much so. Oh, I think so. I think they'll make a big noise in that respect. Absolutely. So yeah, I mean...
00:14:57
Speaker
as it is without knowing what wass are going to bring Jimmy Goprath is going to be healthy again, although he's got a shoulder issue, I think, going into this season as well now, but at least it's not an ACL. And Liam Sope-Waga having another year under his belt.
00:15:13
Speaker
If that, if he, if he turns, turns the corner and turns into something that are, is worth a damn, then yeah, lots of probably gonna be a top 14. But if they don't, then I, I don't see how somebody, maybe Quinn's can, Marcus, if Marcus Smith takes another step forward, that's, that's a team that I don't want to play.
00:15:33
Speaker
Because he's very good. He's very talented They have a shitload of good players on that team as well as much as I hate to say that Obviously you have a salty veteran Danny care. That's Obviously he's chomping at the bit. They're gonna miss their part of their front row. They got rid of the fucking Dave Ward. Thank God Yeah, that's one that that's one cancer that you don't want hanging around your team
00:15:56
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I think, I mean, I think we answered the question of who's making top six right there with Quinn's wasps. Um, Gloucester chiefs series. I think, I think Bristol make it over wasps. Okay. That's, that's my switch. Okay. Um, I think Bristol have a bet. Like again, wasps went for the big splash, uh, changing, you know, with to mug Allen and Fekitoa. Right. Um,
00:16:21
Speaker
And, you know, to a lesser extent, Menazzi, these are guys that they want to come in and make an impact immediately. And obviously they're still trying to fill that void left by Wade leaving, among other people, and get that really attacking wing going. But at the same time, are they going to be able to get the ball to the wing?
00:16:45
Speaker
So I could see that happening, but at the same time, it's going to take them a while to gel, which is why I think Bristol, I think, are going to sweep ahead of them. I think that'll be your top seven, though. I think Wasp will probably be at seven. Yeah. And so they could get in champions, depending on how things finish. So that does call for a bit of a disappointing year for the sale sharks, having made
00:17:09
Speaker
uh, many assignings out of the the great country of south africa with the likes of aqua banda murva the depriya, uh trio and the and lou de agar obviously is the way with with south africa right now a cop but um, you know and our boy aj which which we love but
00:17:26
Speaker
Yeah, it leaves, probably leaves them on the eighth, which will be a solid, I think it's a solid eight right there.
Struggles of Bottom Teams and Coaching Concerns
00:17:34
Speaker
That'll all stay within touching distance of each other somewhat, depending on which half of it you're looking at. I think by the time we get to a certain point in the season, there'll probably be a top five that makes itself very known and just come down to who finishes in fourth and who finishes top to get the two home matches. And then we're looking at probably the bottom four of
00:17:55
Speaker
Worcester, London Irish, Bath and Leicester. Yep. And I got to say, I didn't I like some of the things that Worcester did, but I don't see enough there that they've done. They're not finishing that way. They weren't finishing. And that's that's going to be the key to their season is they did a great job of moving the ball and getting the line breaks that they needed and getting the chances that they needed.
00:18:21
Speaker
They did a shit job of finishing. So it's the question for Worcester of can you turn those line breaks into tries like the top teams do and if they can then Yeah, they'll they'll probably be at the top of that, you know towards, you know the not eight maybe the nine, you know nine or maybe eight They might poke ahead of some of these other teams, but
00:18:44
Speaker
Yeah. They're going to have to show me that they can do it before I'll believe it. Right. Yeah. And they lost Jack Singleton, which is not helpful, obviously, at all. They do have some very good young talent there. We saw kind of the tail end of their season last year.
00:19:02
Speaker
So they do have some good things or brought in Melanie and I from the blues who looks like he's chomping at the bit as well He could be that finisher that they're looking for But they're gonna need more than one right for sure and I like the sneaky signing of Graham Graham Kitchener Yeah, that's I think going to be bringing the brother over. Yeah, I think that's gonna be helpful for their for their pack. Absolutely
00:19:22
Speaker
Because they were very much a back-based team last year, and maybe solidifying their pack a little bit. Their type 5 weren't spectacular outside of maybe Bresler and maybe in Singleton, probably. Those would be the two type 5 players I'd pick out for that team. Darren Barry was OK, but he kind of faded at the end.
00:19:49
Speaker
Lester look Lester did make some really good signings. We talked about Lavonini Whenever when that first happened Tafua, it was a big was it is a big one I thought he was a little underrated at the Crusaders and underused they're gonna use him like I'm gonna use him like a stable issue big time
00:20:05
Speaker
Um, so they, they did obviously do some decent business themselves. Um, I thought Cal and green was that fantastic. I love Cal and green. Um, you know, some, we talked about some of the good new castle players that were definitely going to find homes. Um, couple of them, we talked about found homes and they're gonna, they're going to be just fine. I think, um, those players will be for sale. Is that where he went? Yeah. Hammersley went to sale. Kibergi went to wasp.
00:20:32
Speaker
Yep. Um, not to move and went back to Australia. That's a, that's a bit of a, that's a bit of a hurtful one to see. I will say this, he's looked a lot better for Australia than he looked in a Lester shirt. And I don't know what the hell it is, but although he, you know, it's a different environment, obviously playing in Lester England, playing in Melbourne, Australia, which is where he played when he, when he left two different places. But, um, if you can play in both, you're probably doing okay.
00:20:59
Speaker
Yeah, um, and then again, we just talking about kitcheners leaving but again calum green coming in so it's like uh, that's almost Like not losing too much right there. Yep, and the the chiefs pick up will witty as well. Yep, so Yeah, chief gets stronger. Wow. Yeah, um, they lost they lost law day to the quins who?
00:21:22
Speaker
I feel like it's a little bit under the radar. He was a pretty darn good player for them He just couldn't break into that team. Yeah, matt kavecik basically had all that Yeah, he took that jersey. It's like this is mine now. Yeah, i'm gonna just you know ladi was strong to open the season and then Yeah, kavecik took over. Yeah, um, so that could be an under the radar starting for them. So I would keep an eye on that one for sure so the
00:21:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think wister's my pick to go down unfortunately and probably get replaced by new castle That's probably what's gonna happen. Yeah, I would not be surprised if if lester was was the team though yeah, just pick it based on their their form last year and They again like you said a lot of turnover there so who knows if that's you know, I
00:22:08
Speaker
I don't know how that's gonna work out in the long run for them if they fire their coach again early Yeah, and look out for another tough season down right and offer grow it's gonna be I think it's gonna be Like feast or famine with them because you got the you know You look at the the England 910 combination that they they have going on youngest Young and forward they're gonna be great fantasy players Is that gonna translate to wins for for Lester and I?
Fantasy Rugby Format and Strategy Tips
00:22:35
Speaker
Yeah about to find out
00:22:37
Speaker
Um...
00:22:40
Speaker
So let's do, um, let's do, let's, let's do the really fun part about this that we really like doing, which is the fantasy part. Um, so we'll go, let's go through some rugby mag stuff first, the salary version. If you haven't, this is your first time on the show. We play two variations or we are playing two variations on this, uh, for this partnership season. We do the rugby magazine fantasy, which is a salary version. You get 7 million or something like that to start. You need, you need a minimum of 28. There's no maximum.
00:23:10
Speaker
Right. OK. And values can increase, values can decrease. So you've got to keep your eyes peeled on that one. Some players are investments. Yeah. Some players you think, all right, there were some players that definitely started low last year. First guy that jumped off the top of my head, Ollie Thorley. Yep. He was like $1.10. Now he's well over $200. Yep. Willie Rowlands. Yeah. Alex Donbrandt. Like a bunch of guys, keep your eye on the fringe players who are going to step up for an injury, for whatever have you.
00:23:39
Speaker
they're going to show up and suddenly be extremely valuable. And suddenly, instead of 100K, now all of a sudden, they're in the 200s. And it's like, OK, well, if you feel like getting rid of them, that's... Yeah, that's a good time to make sure that you get rid of them. It's like a stock market sometimes. You got to make sure they don't bottom out. Right. So let's go through, because we have, with this, obviously comes some, and just like if you were drafting, and we'll talk about that in a little bit,
00:24:04
Speaker
too much draft capital on certain players is, you know, something that gets measured. Here, it's literally how much money are you investing in these players? And some of it's way too bloody much. And I have some notes for each team and I'm just gonna go through them and- Okay, I just have notes general over across the board. Okay, and that's fine. And you can piggyback off whatever you see and just going through the teams here. So for me, a forward to avoid in the bath team that's
00:24:30
Speaker
Way too expensive. It's going to be way too easy for me to say it, but god if I need to tell you this wake up, uh, Toby, uh, Toby, uh, do not sign him. He's 440,000, uh, 444. He gets hurt all the fucking time and I hate to say it about the guy, you know, he's
00:24:47
Speaker
Good player and I know that like the Bonapolos or cousins with him I think whatever and they and they speak highly of him the guy can't stay healthy Yeah, and you don't want a 400,000 paperweight. No, you know sitting on your bench, right? It's no good So yeah, you don't want that and then on the other side a guy that I was often banging the drum for last year and he's still Fairly cheap. Where the hell you go? I'll find him in a second here, but Zack Mercer
00:25:15
Speaker
Yes. He's 262. Last year, he scored 500 plus points. So you're getting about two points a pound there. So that's pretty good. Yeah. And that's really what you want to see is the points per pound really is a good ratio to work with. Because, again, because your capital is your salary, you want that kind of value. Yeah. Because as we go, guys are going to sit.
00:25:42
Speaker
So, you know, if I'm looking at the across the board, especially, you know, you look at the top money guys and and he hasn't been. And we just talked about him a little bit ago with Stuart Hogg. He at 430 K. I'm not sure he's going to return that value back.
00:25:58
Speaker
Yeah, for the for the Exeter backs, he's on my he's on my naughty list. Yeah. For the backs for for bath, though. I love the guy. I love the I love his playing style at the little old school. But and that probably describes exactly how much of a hammerhead I am. But Jamie Roberts, class player, class player for many years. But man, is he expensive. He is in the top three of this team.
00:26:23
Speaker
356 you know and he's he doesn't he doesn't play every game he's he's at that he you know sorry jamie you're you're not young anymore um you're 32 and you and the way you play it takes your put your it puts a beating on your on your body uh and then for the the the definitive bargain and he was a definite bargain last year he's not as much this year Rory McConaughey
00:26:45
Speaker
Yes. He's away with England. I know that. But if you if you take him, you're going to be it's going to be worth it. He plays both wing and fullback. Trust me, he'll be you're not spending a ton and he'll be back by the end of the month. So, you know, mid middle of the season or a month into the season. So you have to deal with three, four, three, four weeks without him or so. You know, he'll be OK. And for me, if we're just sticking with the bath, he was one of my guys who he's expensive, but I think you're going to get real good value for him is Anthony Watson.
00:27:13
Speaker
I agree. He was hurt last year, but man, he looks good. He is so talented and he might be worth every penny. So my guys, the big money players that I have that I'm saying, these are guys who should be on your roster because you're going to want them.
00:27:29
Speaker
are Anthony Watson, as he said there, Mauro Itoje and George Ford. Obviously Itoje of the Saracens, George Ford of Leicester. These are guys who are going to rack up points just based on what they do around the pitch. So you want to kind of mix up your team. You don't want to just have
00:27:46
Speaker
inexpensive guys. You want some high money guys. Yeah, you want high money guys for sure. And for my money, those are the top three. Ford was top two in scoring last year in TRM, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, he was huge last year. So he's a guy who's worth every penny. Agreed.
00:28:06
Speaker
And then yeah, but sure but remember you can only have five from every team So that I guess that would technically be your maximum of players you can have right actually. No, is there a maximum? It might be seven. Oh, you're right six or seven Yeah, I think you're right. So you can really you can still you know, squeeze a bunch out. That's quite that's quite a bit Yeah, it's doubtful that you get to so many some odd players. Yeah Yeah, you actually I think you're right They don't they loosen that up come play off right that's different story for a different day
00:28:37
Speaker
My my notes again, I didn't go team by team I just went through it I
Player Evaluations and Draft Strategies
00:28:40
Speaker
just went overall
00:28:42
Speaker
You really want to be looking for versatility um, I mentioned him earlier harry thacker guy who can you can you can play at at hooker and and at flank And he's not expensive either. He's not expensive. He's a guy you'll want on your he will get you return on your investment Absolutely, if he's not in your roster top three top five last year or so somebody you should be looking at absolutely um And then other versatile guys like stephen luatua
00:29:06
Speaker
Another guy on my list somewhat something like mid-range expensive, but he again worth it because he plays it so many positions And then he's not gonna get you he's not gonna be a world-beater at points But he's worth having on your roster because you're gonna be missing a center or a fullback I think he plays I think he has a Fly half center wing fullback these all fours Jason Woodward. Yeah, he's pretty good. I
00:29:31
Speaker
Um, and he's not going to, you know, again, he's not going to overwhelm you with points, but there's going to be a week where you're like, fuck, I need to fall back. I need a center. I need a wing. And you're like, all right, I'll put Jason Woodward in and hopefully he's playing and he'll do all right. Yeah. He's under 300 pounds. So that'll be, there are 300,000 pounds. That'll be, that'll be good for you.
00:29:50
Speaker
I have a list that I'll just publish later that I'm not going to try and bore the fuck out of us now that I think about it. But there was one more name that I wanted to throw out there. One more good name and one more bad name.
00:30:08
Speaker
One more, one more bad name that I think is he's way too expensive and he didn't do, he's done well in the World Cup, but just didn't do anything special for me was Alice Gensh. Way too much money, not enough productivity. You can do way better for your money than Alice Gensh.
00:30:27
Speaker
And to go along with that, so I kind of went down my position. Here are my traps. To go along with the prop position. Owen Franks and Dan Cole. Far too expensive. Both of them far too expensive. You're not going to get your money back. Or you're not going to get your money's worth out of them. Just absolute traps. You really shouldn't consider either of them.
00:30:50
Speaker
And maybe Owen depends on how he really adjusts, but I don't think he's going to get you the points you need. Yeah. Well, yeah, he's more expensive than his brother. His brother was not very productive last year. And let's put a name out there that's probably not well known.
00:31:07
Speaker
Or at least he's near to the league, so we'll see what happens. But he's low on this list, and I am very surprised how inexpensive he is. Curtis Rona, the center from Australia that came over from Wartos, looked pretty darn good for them, was definitely tearing it up.
00:31:25
Speaker
He's a buck 85. Wow. For from London Irish. And you know, he's gonna play, you know, they have a few centers over there and at the Irish. But man, the exiles are gonna definitely roll him out there. You know, three out of four weeks, he's gonna he's gonna be starting for them. So yeah, I would definitely give him a hard look, because I think he's gonna do very well here.
00:31:49
Speaker
Alright. Especially for your money. Right. Yeah, well, $1.85. How do you go wrong with that? No. Is it really like one of those ones where you go, oh, do I really want to spend a dollar on $1.85? Dude, it's nothing. Put them in there. Done.
00:32:05
Speaker
Yeah, so let's see who else to have. So I'm going back to my traps. I'll just go through like who I've got at the different positions. An odd trap and you're going to be I think you're you're going to be a little bit shocked by this. Jamie George. How much is he?
00:32:23
Speaker
um you know i'm not sure i didn't i didn't write down his numbers um but with uh singleton being around he's i mean he's 387 that jimmy george's 187k that's pretty expensive yes and he got he got up almost 400 points last year so he was still average more that he was over the one for one ratio right but the value is not there
00:32:48
Speaker
You're just not gonna get that I mean, especially look at Harry Thacker at 263 so over a hundred K less but scored 710 double the value double the points Yeah, and you got a figure that that Jamie George is gonna be missing time at the beginning of the season and then he's definitely gonna be missing time for Six Nations So right you're gonna lose a lot of time with him and then you're gonna lose on top of Singleton coming around to take time away. Yeah now that they have a quality backup hooker Yeah, it's gonna be it'll be less of a headache for Martin McCall to be like
00:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, really sit Jamie. Let's now uh, oh jack your your turn go ahead right good And he was quality for a really bad. Yeah a pretty bad blister team His price isn't bad 251 right? But when is he that's the other question is when is he gonna play? How much time is I understand? If you need number two hooker right, that's not terrible
00:33:41
Speaker
No. For the lock position, guys who are expensive but aren't going to give you the value back, for fantasy-wise, are George Cruz and Joe Launchbury. I agree. Absolute traps, both of them. I definitely had launch on my bad list. Cruz will give you a game here or there that will make you, can it be a little bit of a... Sucker you into it? Yes. I'll sign him, and it's like, no, no, no. If you look, if you're going to sign a Saris flank or lock, you're going to go with Mario. It's going to be a Toge.
00:34:09
Speaker
it's just that's that's worth it yeah um from the the the nine position um i guess i didn't do flankers that's right but you can kind of work around flankers there's there's so many of them um for sure yeah right and a lot of the back rows so you
00:34:25
Speaker
There's not too many there's not nearly as many traps So here's a place to look for flankers if you want semi cheap, but very very productive flankers and that sale Yes, they have the likes of Ben Curry Beaumont Ross those those three right there should be you guys
00:34:41
Speaker
Curry and Ross were on my find values list. There you go. Yeah. So there you go. Um, uh, for, for nines, uh, for traps, uh, FAFTA clerk, Ben Young's Nick tips. Yes. Traps one, two, three. All of them. All of them. And they're all on my list too, to just.
00:34:57
Speaker
Don't don't touch him. Yeah, that's him. Ashley's on my list for sharks to just don't yeah, he's he's probably a little too expensive He's actually he's on my list, too. Yeah, that's funny for wings. Yeah. Yeah That and then that brings me to a couple guys. So Henry Slade
00:35:14
Speaker
Probably not all so that much. Here's here's where I went with this. So shoot Henry Slade Ollie Devoto Stewart hog Mm-hmm. There's a reason that the three most expensive fly halves for Exeter are not really fly halves. Yeah They're not you know, the exit is a very forward-centric team. I
00:35:32
Speaker
as far as, you know, that that's why they play. Yeah. Cordero was was amazing. It's for a fantasy because he'd be the one back who would be their line breaking specialist. They kind of lost that. So it'll be interesting to see who replaces him. But I wouldn't go with the backs for for Exeter to a laggy as a guy who's a trap, I think, just based on his price. I didn't write down his his price, but I just saw it and I'm like, yeah, he's not cheap and he's not going to get you the value. Nope.
00:36:01
Speaker
and uh someone we talked about recently in our in our world cup uh Discussions was leon williams Yeah, um bond diffuser in chief. Not so not so good doesn't doesn't provide value fantasy wise as much as he does on the field
00:36:16
Speaker
And plus with the saris you got to worry about their lineup. They have so many people back there that right they're gonna rotate him out So that's why I'm like Liam Williams. I kind of hold off on him. I I'm struggling now because I Have daily in my World Cup team. He's not really providing the points that I would like I think he still will do well with with saris, but again
00:36:42
Speaker
Yeah, they have so many different guys that they could they have so many different roster combinations that it might just not be the they talked about playing him outside And probably weighing less than less so fullback right with good quality and guys like good and williams you right Shuffle back there. Um, two elangi is 340
00:37:00
Speaker
Yeah, yeah pretty pretty expensive guy that can be a paperweight. Yeah, I'm so don't do that And then my value guys will go through fire again Thacker at hook. Yeah, don't worry. He's on your team if he's not on your team, but the fuck wrong
00:37:19
Speaker
Exeter props, I wouldn't over invest there, but Moon Williams these guys are like don't They're gonna score these are guys that that do well and loose, right?
00:37:32
Speaker
the one that i would give where there's really no versatility will rollins is is a lock only um in this competition he fucking produces and he produces and he's cheap as dirt i think he's only i think he's still in the hundreds yeah he's just under 200 i think yeah and then the guys with the versatility dom brandt ed slater's a big one that i would look at because he's again a lock plank available yeah and he's he's a lineup machine that's for sure
00:37:59
Speaker
And then looking through the the back rows the pure back rows but can go over different areas are not car museum car For wasps Matt Kvasek. Yeah We'll see what Simmons does when he comes right as he's healthy, but I still would bet back Matt Kvasek to be very good. Just the same. I
00:38:19
Speaker
And you mentioned Ben Curry, John Ross. Yes. Yes. And then there's one that, that again, this guy needs to be on your roster. If he's not, you're doing something wrong and that's Chris Vue.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. He's been he was very productive for Bristol bears last year and he's not expensive at all. No. Well, Roland's is 198 by the way. Yeah. Easy money. Again, dirt cheap. Yeah. Dirt cheap. That's one of those ones where it's like you do it and you don't even think about it because it's so cheap. You know, you're not going to yeah, you did not spend that much of your of your budget and the odds are he's going to produce. Right. Because the thing is when you get down to the 100 level guys,
00:38:57
Speaker
I had some guys on my team, I think I had like Sam Simmons on my team, or one of the Simmonses from Exeter. And he just wasn't producing, but I couldn't release him because he wasn't giving me enough value back.
00:39:12
Speaker
Yeah, and so it's like well fuck I can't he's just gonna he's a he's not very it's an inexpensive paperweight But there's nothing I can do about it. Nope. Yeah, be careful about which of these Inexpensive guys right up because you're you're burning a transfer come mid-season, you know, I get one per week Otherwise you're eating 20 points exactly. You don't want to be doing that. Yeah, I did it once or twice. Oh, yeah Wasn't proud of it, but it happened Also didn't
00:39:35
Speaker
I didn't diversify my team very well. I had, I only had 28, 29 guys on my team to start. And then I learned, Oh, I need like 40 guys on the team if I can help it. So let's, let's, let's aim for that and then I'll figure it out. Yeah. So yeah, that's maybe that's something for you all to keep in mind. Okay. Um,
00:39:54
Speaker
Nine's value at nine's. Yeah value at cobra's ryanak and ben spencer Yeah, especially spencer because he's not he's not as expensive as ryanak. Not as expensive and he's not on it He's not at the world cup. So he's somebody who's he's gonna be Available right away available right away with the tens The obvious guy is george four danny. Cipriani den bigger
00:40:15
Speaker
and duncan weir is somebody who should be on your team because he uh He tailed off at the end last year, but he still put up still pretty did pretty well. Yeah Yeah, and cipriani. I think he's gonna show off for the new england coach And say I should be on that fucking team. Yeah, put me on the team. Give me give me that paycheck
00:40:33
Speaker
Yeah, my centers, um hutchinson. Oh Byron mcgwigan why he's not two guys who should be in japan right now. No doubt. Um, ryan mills of wuster Uh, joe marshant of the quinns. Oh, give me some joe marshant man. Sam. Yes, sam james Um, and then I another guy I capitalized because he needs to be on your roster even though he's new to the saints is matt proctor
00:41:00
Speaker
Yeah, there'll be I think I I mean jeez if you get glimmers this season, but he was banged up Yeah, a whole lot for the hurricanes And um, yeah, and then tom collins of the saints. Um, he's still dirt cheap, isn't he? Yeah So he's somebody you should just have on your team and still him and then when he plays fucking play him Yeah play him because he always he seems to just produce when he plays um piers o'connor, uh bristol solid. Yep, um naira voro for the saints
00:41:27
Speaker
Yeah, so now we're going back the top I use a top 10 player. Oh, yeah Sharples and Thor Lee and he was dirt cheap. I know he was expensive He was he was a paperweight at first. I was pissed about it, but I held on to him and he paid off He got less fat. Yeah Sharples and Thor Lee
00:41:43
Speaker
uh either or either or we're both there again both are extremely cheap and alapati leoa those those are my my guys who uh a huge home run for me last year you're gonna have value there yeah he was a huge huge hit for me i was like this guy is awesome and he's so cheap yeah he's a little more expensive now because he's been found out but but damn he was still cut yeah he's just got those magic feet he and pia tao both just make people look silly um
00:42:10
Speaker
Alright, so, yeah, if you have any questions about strategies and stuff like that, we've learned from our mistakes, at least we're trying to, so you can ask Ben and I about that one.
Closing Thoughts on Fantasy Rugby Season
00:42:23
Speaker
Draft rugby, this is our first Premiership draft rugby season.
00:42:27
Speaker
So, here's, here's the thing that we'll talk about first and then we'll talk about the rankings as they as I've put them and then I can have a few more conversations about how we, if we like, the way they look as is.
00:42:43
Speaker
The FRD went with to rank these players the inverse order of last year's Finish which I don't love because they were using other metrics before that so I personally and this is Ben and I talking as two guys that played
00:43:01
Speaker
NFL fantasy for a long time now and see something similar to that one guys ranked players are they off sometimes yes they are of course they are I guarantee you these rankings will be far less than perfect as well but I think that's the more accurate way to go about it is to go about it with the the thought in mind about you know project don't use other metrics other than the points
00:43:26
Speaker
Right because it never happens where the same guy score scores the top points And I know I have it ranked that way that right now, but we can still screw with that as best we can of course there's the strategy involved so Right now. I'm just looking back looking up through the top 20 Let's say this one two three four five six seven eight nine ten ten of the top 20 at least from our rankings our outside backs, right
00:43:54
Speaker
And you go to the fantasy rugby draft, and it's almost the same thing. It's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11. So they have 11 outside backs in their top 20.
00:44:12
Speaker
the value just isn't there. If that means over half of the best available players are outside back, all that means is there's a ton of quality outside backs, and you can wait on them. And you need three to start, but you can get...
00:44:33
Speaker
You can get three guys in rounds three through six outside back and they'll all probably produce and there'll be ones that have big weeks and ones that have bad weeks and then you obviously got a backfill with subs and stuff like that too.
00:44:49
Speaker
But yeah, you can definitely sit on and wait on something else like the Bristol front row or a good fly half like weir or sips. Right. Or even a decent loose forward which you only get two of and there's only a few of them that were even worth a damn in the top 50 probably. Mercer and Morgan were the top two I believe last year and I would say that they're probably gonna finish around there as well. I agree. So yeah, you're looking at that. Obviously the top two
00:45:17
Speaker
from last year were the likes of Ryan Ack and Spencer, I believe. And I think Spencer was way down this list and I was like, no, he's got to go up because he's- And he's going to have more value. It's his job. So number one, this is his job now.
00:45:37
Speaker
I love Wiggy. Wiggy is helping Canada right now. And there's a reason he's helping Canada right now because he's about to fade off into the sunset. And we love Wiggy and we love him for what he's done. But he's done. Yeah. You know, and Spencer is the is the youth and he is the future. And that's what that's what they're going to ride. And not only is he the youth in the future, fuck, he's good. So he does things that give fantasy value. That's a big thing. Not only is he good scrum half, but but he's a good fantasy scrum half.
00:46:04
Speaker
And he he'll kick for points. Yeah, which you don't you don't need to designate a kicker in this You just get the kicking points doesn't matter who it is. So remember that that's right You have like a 12 trees who likes to take the kick sometimes? Yeah, you know that that's where it is So you got to remember just keep that in mind when you're picking these things
00:46:22
Speaker
So, you know, midfielders that can that will take the take the kicks now and again, maybe they're not providing the maybe not tearing up trees like Marchant and Hutch, but they could also get you points that way, too. So just keep that in mind. They don't all have to be the same thing. I mean, 12 trees right behind Hutch. Yeah. In terms of rankings here. And there's a reason, you know, Hutchinson's Hutchinson was way down this list as well. But I've kind of thought about this. I'm like, All right, what would have happened if he played 20 odd games? Exactly. He would.
00:46:51
Speaker
He would have blown the roof off this thing. So yeah top two midfielders in my mind are definitely Joe Marchant and Roy Hutchinson So, let's so let's look at our first 25 that we have on here anything that stands out Somebody too high somebody too low here. We'll go through like the first hundred and then we'll In this format and then we'll I mean there's two outside backs for sale on this list Hammersley and Solomona
00:47:19
Speaker
For yours Lee played on new castle last year. So we'll see what he does Uh, I just I I don't I don't know how sale are gonna do getting that ball out too wide. Um So i'm i'm not certain that that's a that there's and again Those are these are guys that that yeah like Depending on how you're you're you you want to structure your roster? Yeah, maybe you want them or they're also good. Hey if someone else wants them
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah, use them as a chip. Whatever. No, I would just say let someone else make that. Oh, that's fine too. Yeah. And you go for something that's a little bit more value. So those are the guys who are out. I'm not exactly sure. I like the idea of the full front row. Sarri's, I think, are a little underrated only because Mako missed a lot of time last year. Yes. And if he can stay healthy,
00:48:16
Speaker
that boosts sarah's front row because you already have you already have um you already have uh jinx and singleton right who are going to be studs at the at the at the hooker position yep and and the sarahs just have the the other the other
00:48:32
Speaker
People in their front row that are going to still get their points so um And especially if like innocent if mako is healthy, he's going to be gaining a lot of points, right? So that's that's that's helpful there and then obviously bristol same same thing what like it would knock a brings Yeah, big fella that we got from the twins. We'll see what guys like that bring as well as well. Um, I would anticipate We know the guys that carry the guys that don't for this team. Yeah, right front row. So
00:48:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely they were way down the list or initially on frda. I shoved them up the list Yeah, I would I would do that. I would not keep them too far down. No Exeter may be a little bit higher. I know they're outside our 25 I might pop them into the 25 but again, so we're looking at 29 this is still yeah, that's still a second round round in a ten team read That's a second round right round if you're an 18 if you're in a smaller league
00:49:23
Speaker
Yeah, let's look at the 20 the next 25 from Alapate Luyo down to Piers O'Connor. Alapate Luyo being another outside back obviously and then Piers O'Connor being the ninth ranked, my ninth ranked midfielder at the moment.
00:49:38
Speaker
OK, I shove Becky Toa in there. I think he's going to be quality, obviously not ranked because he didn't score last year. I don't think he's any bad or much, much worse or much better than Tompkins. I think he'll be about par with him. Actually, probably have a little too high because of daily play center. Right. And he plays outside. That's where laws usually play unless they start rotating a gentleman that we know and love, Brad Barrett out. So we'll see.
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be it's going to be tough sledding for the first saris in their their back line. So I I kind of might devalue them a little bit just because of the time issue, you know, like especially Lozowski. Right. He's kind of odd, man. He's going to be like their spot starter, certainly their first reserve, probably for every match.
00:50:25
Speaker
if he's
00:50:39
Speaker
51 through 75, 51 being Melanie 9i, the new guy from Worcester. I pumped him up a little bit, because I think he's better than Penel, and Penel did all right last year. So I think he's going to be up there a little bit. I agree with that. Pierce Francis is a little overvalued on the FRD rankings, but I don't think he's a total waste of time. You just shouldn't take him in the fifth round. You should take him in the seventh or the eighth. That's all it comes down to. Seventh or later, it's probably OK.
00:51:06
Speaker
Keep in mind once you get to like seventh eighth round just start picking guys that you that you feel good about You know, don't don't get married to guys at this point right eighth rounds probably good to Stick to a strategy and then once that happens. All right. Now, let's start finding available Yeah, start finding guys that are you best available or maybe you haven't a hunch about somebody so yeah and
00:51:31
Speaker
I think Doo-doo-doo today. We're just looking through it tomorrow Harrison I think it's gonna have a better year this year because he's healthy again. Hopefully he stays that way I'm not sure about Wanda young Or Ali DeVoto there again. There's there's your 66 68 and I
00:51:51
Speaker
I think there's probably better value a little bit lower than that in, say, Mark Atkinson. You might be right, yeah. Who, again, the way Sips distributes the ball, I think he's going to get more chances. Yeah. So you're probably still looking at. But again, this is all personal preference. Yeah. So it's late six, early seventh. OK. And again, this is if you, it's negligible within the range. Negligible, I consider, within about a round or so. Yeah.
00:52:20
Speaker
Don't don't don't be don't let it don't be gun shy about it Yeah, I'm looking at 76 to the final 100 of our top 100 that we have on our on our lovely little list here Stephen lewitt to us. I'm gonna you talk you spoke knowingly about before and yeah, I again. I think he's a little under that under Ranked there, but I just don't know how I can shove him much higher. That's the only thing
00:52:42
Speaker
It's hard because he's only a loose forward right here. So that's that's the difference is is in the in the rugby magazine He's I think like lock flanker eight. Yeah something ridiculous. He can put him anywhere whereas here you're kind of pigeonholed into this forward position and that's it so that that devalues lewitt to him more than anything is the lack of versatility and
00:53:02
Speaker
Yeah, um, he's still gonna get your points. So you can still that's that's good value down at the end still Yeah, and I might switch bath and Quinn's front row around because I think Quinn's front. I was a little better because They won't have that fucking moron in there to get them stupid car stupid penalties. Yeah
00:53:22
Speaker
And they still, yeah, they still have some, uh, some pretty good attacking front rows. Right. And then, um, yes, they do. Um, and then the number 98 there. I don't know how much game time he's going to get right off the bat. If he is there starting eight man, look out. He's going to, that'll be a steal. That'll be a steal. Come that, come that round. Although I think the guy right behind him is, is yet another steal. Yes. But the only reason he's as far down as he is in Japan right now.
00:53:52
Speaker
And he's got some back row contenders to deal with Creel and Ackerman and other guys back that are in that pack as well. So just other things to keep in mind. But yes, if he is a consistent starter, then you're going to have yourself a nice little steal there. And then number 100, Nick Phipps.
00:54:10
Speaker
I didn't see him as being any better than Danny care. So I didn't want to rank him higher than Danny care. Now here's obviously all the way up to D seven. Yeah, but I didn't see I definitely think he's gonna be better than Harry Randall who I love. But again, Randall's gonna split time with urine. That's the only problem.
00:54:26
Speaker
So and one thing we were talking about earlier before the pod is the is now when you're getting into either handcuffing. So again, as Jared mentioned, we're both fairly we've been doing fantasy football, American football for
00:54:43
Speaker
Many years. Many years. I was doing it back when we had to get the newspaper the next day and write down the scores and whatnot back in the 90s. So the idea of team construction is we're no strangers to it and that kind of strategy involved. So I kind of mentioned it earlier with the back three or the outside backs.
00:55:06
Speaker
There's so many of them. You can always just pick one up off the scrap heap and not worry about it. You know, there's going to be plenty sitting there on the waiver wire that you're going to be like, wow, what the fuck? He's not even on the team. And then you look at your teams and you're like, oh, yeah, that's why. But then you get to these scrum halves and fly halves, which.
00:55:24
Speaker
You're really kind of pigeonholed those guys are pigeonholed right in there, right? And you only can start one And there's you know, probably eight teams if you're if you're really stretching the you know That's probably the maximum you want in this competition in your league and those of you that are playing ten teams god speed to you Yeah, you're gonna be struggling when you're when your player's not playing so it's it's important You know, we have danny care ranked 87 nick phipps ranked about 100
00:55:51
Speaker
I think we're kind of undervaluing those halfbacks because there's so few of them that are going to be available that just because they're ranked down there doesn't mean you should just leave them there. These are where we think they're going to, about where they belong in terms of what their return on the investment's going to be, but you got to look at if you decide to skip over them or wait and somebody else snags them.
00:56:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that's gonna be you know, you're gonna be fucked you don't want to get to the to be you know to around like five or six and And looking at your only halfback combination, you know, you might you know, maybe you'll get like a You know your Nick white or Willie Hines
00:56:30
Speaker
And you're not doing too bad, but the days where they're off, you're kind of fucked. So you want to make sure you get a good high scoring halfback and fly half before you're kind of SOL. Yep, before you're really locked into a bad news.
00:56:46
Speaker
So and here's a couple pairs just to keep in mind. The Bristol pairings being Andy Yearn and Harry Randall as well as Callum Sheedy and Ian Madigan. If you can manage to get both of those guys on your team, if you pick one, try and pick the other as well. Obviously you've got to manage how early you jump on the other one because you don't want to jump too early on certain ones.
00:57:10
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Alex Mitchell and Cois Reinach I think are both extremely high quality players that play for the Saints that are high that are both half-backs So the days that Cois Reinach is out slash away Alex Mitchell usually steps in and doesn't miss a beat. So there's the likes of that Ben Spencer and to a lesser degree probably Whiteley and
00:57:29
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Keep an eye on which one turns into the pair on that one. That'd be something to keep in mind. If you love Marcus Smith, and I do too, I love him, you gotta grab James Lane, because Lane's gonna spell him now and again, especially now, I think they're playing Champions Cup again, so that's gonna have to happen now and again. If you- The Gloucester pair? Yeah, the Gloucester trio, good job. Yeah. And then to, this is probably something you'll be able to pick up while at the Scrap Heap.
00:57:57
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Uh, uh, did I know the names I swear to god will cliff uh to go with uh after clerk, but then also the the bath pairing of chudley and cook are probably something that you can keep your eyes on and then the sail uh fly half pairing of dapria and mcginty Would probably be another one to kind of keep your eyes peeled for because mcginty does leave the team every now and again Obviously dapria is not going anywhere. He's he's on the team now. He's signed permanently
00:58:24
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So and then the Exeter combination of Simmons Simmons and steenson, although I would Prioritize Simmons over steenson. They have I think the frd rankings have Simmons way too low and steenson way too high So prioritize joe simmons on that team. He will take this take the reins. It almost always happens He almost always takes this team over by by the time midweek midseason comes. I think now that he's a little older It'll finally click earlier in the season and it'll happen early in the season. So
00:58:54
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And if I had my say, I think my number one overall pick, Oh man, it's going to be hard for me to turn down Mr. Harry Thacker, but I think I'd take him. Yeah. Well, they take the Bristol front row. Yeah. So I take, I take the Bristol front row.
00:59:10
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And that's—yeah, you can't go wrong there. And the likes of John Afoea. Yeah. And my thing is, I think there's high value there, and it's going to be hard to pass that up.
00:59:25
Speaker
But I might actually go a little bit further down and start with either Reinach as my halfback and just lock him in there and not worry about him. Like he said, I'll have to handcuff him later with Alex Mitchell. But that's an easier one to do once Reinach's off the board because there's not going to be many people who just pick up Alex Mitchell because they feel like it.
00:59:51
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And then Or either that or it'd be Danny Cipriani who I think is again I'm gonna have a monster year this year Yeah, I think if I were to go either one of them I'd probably go steps just cuz he's still here That'd be the only thing that would be the big
01:00:08
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decision-making and it actually might even end up being Spencer at that point then if I don't go Reinach but I might also wait to see if I can pick him up at the round two maybe at the end of round two yeah yeah well we'll know who we're drafting with if we don't if you don't get Spencer in round two yeah we're drafting with some smart people yeah so yeah I'm trying not to give away too many secrets before we do it right I think we'll be okay either way
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