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Pod Warriors #3: Post-Wrestlemania Matches
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Seth & Jordan run down some of their favorite post-Wrestlemania storylines, matchups, and feuds!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Updates
00:00:00
Speaker
Grrrrrr!
00:00:20
Speaker
We are back with the third edition of the podwares. I want to thank you guys for the overwhelming positive support and response we've gotten from the first two episodes. And since I'm still living the bachelor life here in Virginia for a couple more days, we decided we're going to keep it going. Jordan, what's going on in Omaha?
00:00:39
Speaker
Things are good Just to echo what you said. Yeah, thanks to everyone for the positive support We really appreciate it. This is something that me and Seth love doing and we're gonna keep doing it as long as the supports there and Feedback is good because once the feedback sucks, we're done Yeah, yeah, we're pretty fragile one negative review. We'll probably just pull the plug on this whole out of here. I
00:01:05
Speaker
But no, seriously, thank you guys. Please keep the topic suggestions coming and we'll try to crank out some content a little bit different from the flagship Chick Foley show.
00:01:19
Speaker
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00:01:40
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Sponsors and WrestleMania Controversy
00:01:53
Speaker
So all those links will be in the show notes if you guys want to check those out and help support us to keep bringing you guys all the amazing content that we do.
00:02:04
Speaker
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00:02:23
Speaker
What is your thoughts on the back graphic? I know that's caused some controversy online. It's the start of the test of strength, the famous test of strength scene from WrestleMania 6.
00:02:36
Speaker
Definitely looks like you're taking yourself in for a midlife doctor's visit. Man, I was going to order these two and then I started seeing people wearing them and I was like, it wasn't really good placement, but on the front would have probably been even worse. I don't really know where you were supposed to go with that.
00:02:57
Speaker
Yeah, interesting, interesting design choice there but hey we love our friends at chalk line.
Post-WrestleMania Events Analysis
00:03:03
Speaker
So please support. Let's get into this episode so we are going to talk about post wrestle WrestleMania follow ups post WrestleMania feuds post WrestleMania matches.
00:03:16
Speaker
This really became a thing starting in 1995 with the monthly pay-per-views. In Your House was the start of it, then it eventually morphed into Backlash and or Payback. There's been a few other random pay-per-views that have just happened to be the first one after WrestleMania, but traditionally it's been Backlash. Prior to that, WrestleMania 10 and earlier, a lot of times you would just see a continuation of the
00:03:43
Speaker
of whatever the WrestleMania storyline would be, you know, you'd have that going to typically some sort of tag match or something at SummerSlam. And that was kind of just the way that things ran back then. It wasn't until the monthly pay per views and the raw after mania became a thing that you would see them have a hot angle to start off the basically the new year in wrestling. What about you, Jordan? What's some of your just overall thoughts on post WrestleMania storylines and feuds? Yeah.
00:04:07
Speaker
I do like this because, like Seth said, the raw aftermania is typically the restart of the new year. So generally the first pay-per-view after, like he was saying, in your house is then to backlash. Sometimes you get some pretty good shows out of these now.
00:04:25
Speaker
There has been years where it has not been up to snuff. I feel like they start way too many new feuds on some of them. But I like the new feuds. I just I want to see probably half and half. I like to see a little continuation along with some new feuds because I obviously don't want to watch just WrestleMania 2.0. So it is nice to get some new feuds introduced. And yeah, they're always fun to watch.
00:04:50
Speaker
There's been years where, uh, we're backlash ends up being better than the WrestleMania that preceded it. Yeah. And I mean, we're, we're now technically on the road to summer slam, which is typically the second best pair of UWE puts on every year. Um, so they usually try to start building some good storylines heading towards that, especially with now it being the end of July. So, I mean, we're only three months out from that. So, um,
00:05:16
Speaker
I do like this pay review. I'm glad they brought it back. I wish they would drop the WrestleMania backlash and just go back with backlash because there's been a lot of good backlash matches and we're going to get into some of them tonight. So you're saying you got some backlash to the name WrestleMania backlash. Yeah, you could say that.
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know why they needed to do it. I mean, the WrestleMania has always basically been implied. I don't know why they felt the need to just bash it over our head that yeah, this is the follow up to WrestleMania. When they first announced this last year, I don't know if you guys remember, I had the theory that WWE was getting so lazy with their pay-per-view names and concepts that we were going to suddenly see WrestleMania backlash, SummerSlam backlash, Survivor Series backlash.
00:06:01
Speaker
Royal Rumble Backlash. Every big event would just have its own backlash event just to really give them even more of an excuse to be less creative with their feuds and pay-per-view concepts. Luckily, I was a little bit off base on that one.
Match Highlights and Preferences
00:06:16
Speaker
We got seven matches picked out that we're going to discuss. They're in no particular order. Me and Jordan just kind of we're bouncing some ideas back and forth and put together a list of seven matches. So feel free to chime in and let us know if it's any that you think we definitely left off our list and that you would like to hear us talk about on maybe some future episode. So we're going to start it off in 2009 backlash. Last man standing match between Edge and John Cena. So I'll kick off the discussion on this one.
00:06:46
Speaker
It's been well told on here that I took a 10 year break from being a wrestling fan, basically from WrestleMania 20 to WrestleMania 30. I hate, hate, hate, capital H hate the ruthless aggression era. Now 2009, would that be classified as ruthless aggression or the PG era, Jordan?
00:07:05
Speaker
It's probably the bridge to it is right around that time. Yeah, either way, both of those are just repug to me, I think a lot of it has to do with just kind of early to that are like early 2000s.
00:07:20
Speaker
like music and fashion and just like graphic design, I don't think has aged all that well. So a lot of it just seems repug. It's not old enough to where there's a real nostalgia factor to it yet. And I'm just not feeling it. I did like the two ECW shows in 2005 and 2006. Was that a one night stand?
00:07:39
Speaker
Yeah, I did like those those hit. Other than that it's been few and far between where I've really been entertained by something from that era I did go back and watch this match though. And I'll kick it to Jordan to explain to us why this match is so good.
WWE Network and Custom Playlists
00:07:52
Speaker
Yeah, so at this time, Edge was a full on heel. Cena was obviously getting booed by the smart crowd because everyone just thought Cena was just out there for kids. And I've said from day one that Cena would not get appreciated until he was done. And I mean, there's a lot of people that wish Cena was on the roster right now because
00:08:14
Speaker
Having that star power at the top would definitely help as far as this match goes There's I like this match because there's a lot of cool spots in this match and that's kind of what you look for When you talk about last man standing, you're not expecting like a technical classic or anything You're more expecting some technical and then a lot of spots, right?
00:08:35
Speaker
Um, so for, for the entering action, there is quite a bit. Uh, there's one spot in this match that I absolutely hate. And I went back and watched it again. It made me remember it. Cena is getting put in a sleeper hold by edge and he's basically acting like he's completely out. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, he jumps up, flings off the road. It's his four moves.
00:08:55
Speaker
Yeah. Like how does this just happen out of nowhere? Um, they did have a really, they had a couple of really cool moments in this match though. Cena does an A off the announcers table, uh, into the crowd, which is an awesome, it's a really good visual. I mean, obviously it was a bunch of stage people there, but it's, it's a cool visual. So, you know, I'm the king of kayfabe. If I could jump in real quick. I watched this match last night, um, cause this was one of two matches on the list that I hadn't seen yet.
00:09:24
Speaker
It looked cool. You're 100% right. It was a cool visual. But would that have even hurt Edge? Because he kind of got caught by the people in the crowd.
00:09:31
Speaker
I mean, you're not wrong. It's just like, I'm sure at some point you're going to fall on the top one of those ringside chairs. Like no matter how many people are there, again, we're keeping the kayfabe here. He's going to hit one of those chairs. And the people were probably seeing a fan. Maybe they hit him like a little elbow in the ribs and that's why it was so devastating. Or maybe they just moved out of the way because they didn't really show us him landing. They just showed us at the aftermath of it. So, hey, who knows? Maybe they moved out of the way.
00:09:58
Speaker
They fable me here, pal. There's a lot of stair spots in this match. Did you notice that? How many times they used the stairs in this match? I thought that was kind of cool because they've really went away from that in the past 15 years. I mean, there's not a whole lot of stair spots in matches anymore. And if there is, it's not more than one.
00:10:17
Speaker
Yeah, this match definitely hooked me. I'll give you that. The
Austin vs. Dude Love Match Breakdown
00:10:21
Speaker
first eight or nine minutes, it was moving a little slow, and I wasn't really feeling it. But then once they started just trading the high spots, I was in on it to the point where I was just like, holy cow, how are they actually going to have somebody win this? These guys are getting up from these incredible bumps. And then, of course, the big show comes out to kind of just wipe the slate clean on the match. What were your thoughts on the big shows appearance there at the end of it there, Jordan?
00:10:44
Speaker
So usually I don't like these interference spots because they usually don't add a whole lot to the match. But dude, the spot that big show does is pretty freaking awesome. I mean, that's something we'll probably never see again. And it was the first time we'd ever seen it. So for those that don't know, he chokes lambs in through the spotlight. There's a bunch of spotlights at the entrance for backlash. The entrance of backlash is really cool as well on the show. But he chokes lambs in through the spotlight and all the fireworks go off and stuff. It's pretty cool.
00:11:12
Speaker
I like the big show finish at the end. I mean, usually I'm not a fan of these ending like that, but I enjoyed it. Speaking of the ending, what are your overall thoughts on the last man standing stipulations? That includes last man standing. Texas death match traditionally uses the same kind of rules where you have basically a 10 count is what it takes to win the match. What's your thoughts on that match stipulation?
00:11:36
Speaker
I'm usually not a humongous fan of these because I kind of feel like they get really carried away with just doing spots and they don't really focus on an actual match per se. I felt like this one was good. I mean, yeah, there was a ton of spots in it, but they were also in the ring probably about half the match. So it's not like your normal last man standing where 98% of it's outside of the ring and then the other 2% when they start the match. So I liked this one, but generally speaking, I'm not a huge fan of last man standing matches.
00:12:06
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either just because it makes it so difficult and how you structure the match. Generally, the thing that takes matches from being really good to hitting that like greatness level is awesome near falls right where you just totally captivated and it takes your breath away because you think the match is over and the dude just gets the shoulder up or kicks out at the last second and that's really gone and last man standing matches because
00:12:27
Speaker
you have the 10 count. I mean, sure there's, you see the guys get up at nine and a half, but it's still not the same as the kick out or whatever. So I don't like it from that standpoint, but I do appreciate its spot in wrestling as basically the true blow off of a few. You rarely see a few continue after some guy beats another guy for a 10 count. Cause it's hard to really make any argument that, you know, you're the better wrestler at that point. Yeah. 100% agree with you.
00:12:53
Speaker
So this was Edge and Cena from Backlash 2009. I will, in the show notes, I'll make it easy for you guys. We'll go and put the list of all the matches that we're discussing so that way it's easy for you guys to put together a little playlist or something of matches that you want to see. Again, WWE Network slash Peacock. I've been saying this for years. You need to give us a custom playlist option. How cool would that be, Jordan? If we could just go ahead and clip together all seven of these matches and have a custom link to share it with the listeners to just have them play through.
00:13:23
Speaker
I don't understand why they won't do that. Like the the layout of peacock is just so weird the way they do everything. I just don't get it. But we'll save that for another day. Yeah, I think custom playlists would be really cool for just the way that wrestling fans consume wrestling. And then another thing would be like a virtual watch party. Like you know what I mean? Like if I could
00:13:45
Speaker
say me and Sheena are here and we decided to put on a pay-per-view, we could share the link and anybody that clicks it could automatically jump in right where we're at, you know? And I don't know, you could have incorporated into the app with like some chat features or something like that, but I feel like that's something that could really add to the level of immersiveness and watching the product too. Yeah. But they're raking in the cash, they don't care. Yeah, they don't care what we think.
00:14:11
Speaker
All right, let's go to the next match. We're going to go 11 years back from 2009. Unforgiven 1998. So this was still under the in your house label, but at this time they had been giving them like subtitles. And by this point, the subtitles were bigger. Like if you look at the poster for this event, it's pictured the undertaker and they got unforgiven and huge letters and then real tiny underneath is in your house. So
00:14:35
Speaker
And your house, the title was starting to fade at this point would have about a year left to go. But this is Steve Austin's first title defense after winning the belt from Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 14 against Dude Love. I really like this match. I like this storyline. This is one where Shawn Michaels, WrestleMania 30, that was his last match for four years.
00:14:57
Speaker
This was definitely a case where they started a brand new storyline, um, right after mania. It was really Steve Austin versus Vince McMahon, but Mick Foley basically became, uh, you know, Vince McMahon's basically avatar in the ring. That was the person who did all his bidding and stuff. It would eventually, uh, lead to survivor series that year where they thought that it looked like they were rigging the tournament for Mick Foley when in fact, uh, they were actually making the rock the corporate champion, but
00:15:25
Speaker
This was the first pay-per-view title defense for Austin really good match kind of your standard Attitude era brawl it ends in just a fuck finish where I think Mick Foley actually wins this match by DQ But Steve Austin counted his own three count in the ring Vince gets taken out on a stretcher. It's just it's a bananas match from the attitude era I liked it Jordan. What's your thoughts on this match?
00:15:47
Speaker
Yeah, it was funny that Austin counted his own three like the absolute boss that he is though. And then they started playing his music immediately. I was like, did he really win this match? But yeah, I mean, it's just your normal attitude error match. We've talked about this numerous times. Some of these attitude error matches, man, they don't age well. This match is definitely fun. There's a ton of interference. I mean, the Stu just come down to the ring. Vince gets hit with a nasty chair shot from Austin.
00:16:17
Speaker
Oh yeah. But yeah, J.R. and King are going back and forth. This is definitely an Attitude Era show. It's just, it's really funny the way you go back and listen to J.R. and the King just giving each other shit the whole time. But yeah, hearing the Austin pop, I mean, dude, everything gets you excited when Austin comes out. Like, even if you weren't excited for a match, hearing Austin's pop, it always gets you jacked. So yeah, fun match.
00:16:42
Speaker
Yeah, he always brought a level of intensity just in the way he walked out to the ring that just could set the crowd on fire. It's funny that Dude Love ended up being the second of Mick Foley's three personas to get a championship match, even though Cactus Jack was the one that was most well known coming into his WWE run. Which of the three faces of Foley was your favorite, Jordan? As far as credibility, I would definitely go with Cactus Jack just because
00:17:11
Speaker
I mean, dude, when you say the name Cactus Jack, you just recognize what he did in wrestling and the shit he did to his body. I mean, obviously, it's second to none. I mean, that dude did not care about his body at all. Dude Love was fun, though. I'll admit, I did like Dude Love. I just thought it was so weird seeing this serious dude dancing around the ring and stuff. But yeah, Cactus is definitely my favorite, though.
00:17:37
Speaker
Cactus Jack is a close second to me. My favorite was the original run of mankind. Like really the first, the first maybe two years that he was there before he was rocking the dress shirt and stuff, being groomed to be the corporate champion for Vince.
Wrestling Personas and Belt Designs
00:17:54
Speaker
I liked the all brown leather mask mankind where, you know, he had the, I always thought it was so cool that he had different entrance music and victory music. Remember he'd play the piano music after he won.
00:18:06
Speaker
He had his big match against Shawn Michaels at in your house mind games. I just really thought Mick Foley was on fire in that character. And it also gave some really cool figures as well. So that would be my pick. The other notable thing about this match, it was the first defense of the big Eagle belt. Remember the winged Eagle, the classic winged Eagle, it got retired the night after WrestleMania 14. Jordan, what's your favorite WWF world title design through the years?
00:18:32
Speaker
Oh, it's definitely the winged eagle. I mean the winged eagle belt has always been my favorite and it always will be. I just love everything about that belt, the history behind it, the people who want it. I mean, it's kind of hard to beat that belt as far as the WWF belt is concerned for me.
00:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, same, 100%, man. I love that one. It's the one HBK had, the one Brett had. It's the one Austin won to start. It's just an absolutely beautiful title. When I hear wrestling championship, that's the first belt that pops in my mind. What's your least favorite of all time? The spinner world title, not even remotely close. Yeah, I dig the spinner for Cena when he first won it. I don't know why they kept it for so long though, man.
00:19:17
Speaker
I loved the Spinner US title. I thought that was like one of the most unique titles ever. Still to this day, I think that's one of the most unique titles ever. I did not love it on the world title though.
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah, I just, like I said, it was cool for a personal belt for Sino. Why would you keep it though? They've never done that at any other time. Like no one else ever held the broken skull belt besides Austin, right? Well, the Rock stole it, but yeah, exactly. And yeah, and they kept it for Miz and Edge. Like, I don't know. No one ever, you know, no one ever won the environmental championship Daniel Bryan had. As soon as Kofi beat him, they bust out a new belt.
00:19:55
Speaker
Yeah, it's just so weird that they kept that out around as long as they did. Like I get that the company was built around Cena at that time, but maybe they had a reason for it. Maybe they sold the shit out of those belts and they didn't want to retire them.
00:20:08
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure that's what it was kids definitely loved it, but it just seems so dated now and just it didn't seem like something a guy like you know the You know edge or miss should be excited to to hold Let's stick with Unforgiven 1998. We got our first controversial pick of the night. I love this match. I think this match fucking rocks Undertaker versus Kane in the first ever inferno match before I tell you all the reasons why I think it rocks Jordan I want you to tell me why does this match suck? I
00:20:37
Speaker
Okay, so I texted Seth last night because I watched this again just because I kind of wanted to be prepared for this. I don't think the match sucks. I just don't think it's as good as like a lot of people make it out to be. I think the flames jumping up every time there's a big move was cool. But again, that's really not the match. I mean, I'm just going off the actual wrestling of this match. The wrestling itself is not great. The match finishes outside the ring like
00:21:06
Speaker
Are we serious here? There's interference, which I already told you my thoughts on interference. There's a time to do it, and there's a time not to do it. Vader and Paul Bearer, the interference. I just, I don't get it. Well, they had to try to make it safe, man.
00:21:18
Speaker
I get it. And then Kane gets set on fire and just his arm gets set on fire and just walks to the back. And they are wearing the bell until Kane's already gone. I don't know, man. There's just a lot of weird spots, which you kind of had to expect it. I mean, it was the first time they ever did this match. So like nobody really knew what to expect. And I mean, I get it. It's just, I don't know. It's not my favorite match between these two. Let's just say that. So it sounds like you were looking for Kane to get straight up barbecued.
00:21:47
Speaker
dude at this time i'm 13 years old so when someone says inferno match and somebody's gonna get set on fire i'm like all right man somebody's about to burn in this ring like i mean dude we're still in attitude area like would you really have put it past him to burn somebody like canes completely on fire like it just doesn't seem like something they would be scared to do
00:22:08
Speaker
Well, I would say Undertaker and Kane walked so that Randy Orton and Bray Wyatt could run from the, uh, you remember the Firefly Inferno match back in at the end of 2020 with the, uh, the flaming fiend. Yeah, but could they have, could they have really done that if it was a live audience there?
00:22:23
Speaker
No, they definitely take advantage of the situation in the Thunderdome. So for me, I love this match. I actually think this was better than the WrestleMania 14 match from the month prior, even though that was a pretty decent match for two big guys.
00:22:39
Speaker
I don't know, man. The gimmick just captivated me. I'd fully embrace how goofy it is, especially like there's literally no kayfabe reason for why the flame should shoot up like when somebody gets choke slammed or something. I thought they did some cool spots though. Looking back, I thought that even though the ending was pretty tame, I thought they were pretty fast and loose in there with the fire, man. It didn't seem like they were being super cautious with it.
00:23:02
Speaker
But yeah, I just I really enjoyed the I enjoyed this match like it just hits for me as an attitude era Staple, I think this is my favorite version of the undertaker Ministry undertaker was cool, but that jumped the shark really really quick So like this kind of like the year before the ministry was kind of my favorite version of him and Kane was still a monster at this time So yeah, I love this one
00:23:24
Speaker
just make this make it a two for you know watch this and then Steve Austin and do love back to back just kind of perfectly encapsulates 1998 1998 WWF and you could kind of pair this one with king of the ring you know these four guys were at the top of the card at that time a couple months after this you have the legendary hell in the cell match between taker and mankind and in the main event that night was Austin and Kane and all four of those guys were involved throughout the night so yeah this
00:23:53
Speaker
again, just kind of captures a moment in time there for 1998 WWF. So big fan of this one. I think it's, I'm going to put it as the second best Inferno match ever. I will give Randy and Bray
Wrestling Gimmick Matches Debate
00:24:05
Speaker
the nod for the best Inferno match ever, just because we got that image of the, the fiend being completely engulfed in flames and eating an RKO. Like that was just an all time moment. You know, what was your thoughts on that one for as a Bray Wyatt fan, Jordan?
00:24:19
Speaker
The match itself I enjoyed a lot. I mean, we all kind of knew how it was going to end. Like, didn't Orton have on like a sleeveless hoodie or something?
00:24:29
Speaker
No, no, he had sleeves. He had on a hoodie and he had pants, I think. Okay. I just remember he had a hoodie on, but dude, everybody knew Bray was going to be the one that was going to take it. That match was really enjoyable. The matches where they had to do like basically jump the shark. I mean, in the Thunderdome, it was easier for him to do because they could cut away and people wouldn't see it or they could tape it and say that it was live. I mean, it was a lot easier for him to do then than it would be now, obviously. So I enjoyed it.
00:24:57
Speaker
Yeah, it was cool. I did like the times when they took advantage of the situation to give us something that wouldn't otherwise be possible. Is there any other goofy gimmicks that you're a fan of? I definitely classify Inferno matches as a goofy gimmick just because the premise is so dumb. Why would you ever need to set your opponent on fire to win the match? What other goofy gimmick matches are you a big fan of, though, Jordan?
00:25:17
Speaker
I mean, I think buried alive is a pretty goofy gimmick. Like you really have to bury your opponent. Like, come on, man. Like what you couldn't just do like, uh, like, I don't know, man. Yeah, we went from casket to no, and I got a barrier. Like, I don't know. I just thought that was really like, I just remember at the time thinking, why would they need to bury him? Like, I mean, I get it, but.
00:25:43
Speaker
At the time, I never questioned it. I was just totally, totally enchanted by this giant mound of dirt and grave site down by the entranceway. It was cool. Don't get me wrong. It looked awesome. The image of it always looked cool. It's just going back on now. It's like, why couldn't they have just done another casket match? You had to set the casket on fire. I don't know.
00:26:08
Speaker
The, I'm still a big fan, December 1995 in your house, the hog pin match. They've never run that one back, man. Henry Godwin versus Triple H. We've never had another hog pin match since then. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That was my favorite for least favorite. I'll probably go with the loser has to have their eye removed match between Seth and Rey Mysterio. That was just the worst, man. What about Judy Bagwell on a pole? That was pretty good, too.
00:26:37
Speaker
I mean, that one was at least funny though. I think that one was supposed to be ridiculous. Like they presented Seth and Rey as this like dramatic match. And the fucked up thing is they had a great match, man. Like the match they had was banging until they got to like the ending sequences where you literally had to remove your opponent's eyeball. And then it just ended with Samoa Joe going, it's out.
Personal Anecdotes and Drinks
00:26:58
Speaker
so bad that match is so bad at the end yeah it's horrible let's uh let's have a drink to kind of wash the taste of these uh horrible gimmick matches out of our mouth all right we're keeping the Kanye theme going on the beverage break hit you guys with the instrumental from spaceship from the college dropout Jordan what are you drinking tonight man
00:27:28
Speaker
I am drinking a Bangerang Tropical IPA. It's from Kincader Brewing in Nebraska. One of the liquor store owners that I know here told me to come pick some of these up and he wasn't wrong, these are hittin'. That sounds really, really good. I'm drinking something from one of my local favorites, Smart Mouth Brewing.
00:27:52
Speaker
It's called Family Photosynthesis. So get this, man. This is a plant-based IPA. So, yeah. It says, celebrate Earth Day early with our dank blend of Kohatu, Cashmere, Laurel, Nelson, Stratus, Centennial, and Citra Cryo Hops for one dank, fruity, super hazy brew. Now, I was a little bit confused about this. I was talking to one of my buddies who was also a big beer fan.
00:28:17
Speaker
Are all IPAs and basically all beers not plant-based unless they have some sort of like dairy component That's a good point. They should all be plant-based Yeah, so I still gotta do some research on exactly what makes the I don't know if just a gimmick It's got some cool cool can art and stuff But it may just be like a joke that I'm not in on but they definitely presented it as like a serious thing that this is a plant-based IPA so we need to figure out what makes it different from all the rest but
00:28:45
Speaker
Go ahead. I just now noticed on this beer too, because I always forget to mention the fruits and stuff that are in this. Passion fruit, melon, ripe mangoes, and sun-kissed berries. Sun-kissed berries. Nothing you want the sunberries that have been emo and goth and hanging out in the dark. No, you don't want any cloud-kissed berries. You're only looking for the sun ones. And you said it was ripe mango? Yeah. As opposed to stale mango?
00:29:10
Speaker
I guess. I don't know, man. I'm just drinking it. It sounds really good. When you said just bangering tropical IPA, it made me thirsty, man. I was like, God, that sounds like what I need to drink. I've definitely gotten more into the juicy, fruitier IPAs instead of the more piney ones. This one I'm drinking right now, as you could guess, being plant-based, it's definitely the more dank, bitter plant.
00:29:32
Speaker
Like I guess piney, I guess the best way to describe it, right? Like the original IPA flavors, you know? Yeah. I felt the last few years we've gotten the more like fruity stuff. I'll have to send you some of these beers from this brewery. They do for every season, they do a different tropical IPA. The last one they did was called Dragon Juice and that one was really good too. So I'll have to send you some of these. Nice. Yeah, I love a good...
00:29:56
Speaker
I love a good tropical IPA. I actually got some news. Hopefully, nobody from the local beer seat is listening. So I'm leaving Virginia on Thursday. It's April 18th as we're recording this. So the 21st, I'm hitting the road to go to Kentucky and meet up with Sheena and the kids and before we ultimately head down to Tennessee for my new job.
00:30:19
Speaker
But Smart Mouse got this Grateful Dead inspired beer releasing on Friday. It's the same thing, a tropical IPA. So I was like, shit, I really need to try this beer. So just on a whim, I emailed them today. I was like, hey, is there any way you guys could sell me a pack of this on Wednesday? You know, me and Sheena have been huge fans and supporters of you guys throughout the years, always shouting you guys out on Instagram and stuff. And I just figured, like, Hail Mary, let me try. And sure as shit, they wrote me back like 30 minutes later. They said, yeah, come at 2.30 on Wednesday afternoon. They said, bring a bag.
Wrestling in the 2000s
00:30:48
Speaker
So nobody sees me sneaking it out of the place, but they're going to hook it up. Oh, that's awesome, man. Good for you. Yeah, man. So I'll have some road beers to drink on that trip to Kentucky. Now we're talking.
00:31:00
Speaker
Yeah. All right, let's get into it. This is a match that I had not watched until last night backlash 2004. This is literally one month after I kind of just took my sabbatical from wrestling. Randy Orton versus Mick Foley for the Intercontinental Championship. I watched this last night and I got to say I was very, very impressed, man.
00:31:23
Speaker
In some ways, it's, it's crazy to see how little Randy Orton has aged in the last 18 years, because I feel like he moves out there nowadays, same way he did. But then another way there were flashes of like athleticism that I just hadn't seen from Randy Orton before from that. But it was an awesome match. You know, Mick Foley always did such a good job of putting over the younger stars, not just going out there and doing the traditional like, you know,
00:31:48
Speaker
Do the job for the for the up-and-comer like he did it in a way where they really got over off of it You know, they didn't just go over they got over when they got those wins over Mick I think it was the biggest win of orange career up to that point and it was just some really crazy huge spots man, so The RKO on Barbie to win it was just brutal like I was literally like cringing as I'm as I'm watching it Jordan this was one that you wanted on here. Why do you love this match so much? I
00:32:15
Speaker
Alright first of all we got to talk about Mick. This dude was down to 273 pounds at this point down from 325 years earlier than this so he was really in the best shape of his career at this time which is kind of crazy to think about.
00:32:31
Speaker
Yeah, like you said it really shines a light on how big of a star orton was gonna be in the business It's absolutely brutal though. You're a hundred percent, right? This this match is brutal I read some online that orton like tried to kind of practice himself a little bit for the tax body took So he tried to like stick attack in his back at home and he's like he was like terrified
00:32:55
Speaker
Yeah, he was terrified that he was gonna have to do the spot like even Jericho asked him like dude Are you sure you want to do this? And he's like, yeah, we got to do we got to make the match good Cactus was cut on his arms hands and fingers. He had 75 cuts on his body that a lot of blood man Yeah, a lot of blood. Yeah, I mean dude, he got hit with the barbed wire bat and two by four so many times But Orton said the worst part is he ended up getting tax and all of his fingertips
00:33:24
Speaker
And like he said at the end of that match, he couldn't even feel his hands. Like that's absolutely, and that spot, I think there was like eight minutes left after that spot. And so dude, he worked eight minutes and he couldn't feel his fingers. The thumbtacks are still something after all my years of watching wrestling that they still give me the heebie jeebies, man. When I see somebody pull the bag out from under the ring. I can't believe Randy Orton tried to practice that. I feel like that's something I would just want to take in the ring and let the adrenaline take over. How about you?
00:33:54
Speaker
yeah there's no amperex in that uh i i would be absolutely terrified first of all if if someone told me hey man you're gonna have to take some texts and i had to be like oh perfect but he knew about it for like three weeks because they were like you sure you want to do this because cactus was like hey i'll do it if you don't want to do it i don't care um i don't remember who they said wrote this match but they were like
00:34:16
Speaker
I mean cactus already agreed to do this he's like no we gotta make the match the way it is because dude you when you look back at it usually like the young stars and orton was on his way to being a star don't take these type of bumps because no i don't orton was basically a pretty boy and then uh
00:34:32
Speaker
The other spot I really like is when Cactus throws an organ off the stage onto the table and then follows it up with an elbow drop to the floor, which it was a picture perfect elbow drop, no less. Yeah, classic Cactus elbow. If I had one kind of gripe on this, so he came out dressed into Cactus Jack gear, was wrestling the Cactus Jack style.
00:34:54
Speaker
Hated that they used the Mick Foley music and introduced him as Mick Foley, you know I feel like it would have hit if you know It seemed like from watching the montage that all the build up to this was Mick Foley I think it would have hit if they would have hit that classic guitar lick for Cactus Jack's music and he sort of came out as Cactus Jack for this match But you know, that's a small gripe. I really enjoyed this one and I gotta thank you for recommending it to me, man. I
00:35:16
Speaker
Yeah, this is a this is a really fun match. I'm glad you watched it because I know there is that 10 year period where you didn't watch anything. So yeah, anytime I come up with these, I'm like, he needs this one on his list.
00:35:29
Speaker
That could be a good idea for, you know, Pod Warriors episode down the road, man. We kind of let between you and the listeners kind of fill in the blanks and come up with like a five or six match playlist stuff we could watch to introduce me to it. Cause there is some, I could definitely know that there's some gyms to be
HBK vs. Diesel Match Appreciation
00:35:46
Speaker
found in that era. I don't think I'm alone in that being my least favorite era of wrestling. I think that's pretty common for fans that that timeframe just was not the greatest, but there's still some good matches to be found and that could be fun.
00:35:58
Speaker
Episode down the road. I mean, dude, there was a there's a ton of first ballot hall of famers that are wrestling during that time too is the crazy thing I mean Triple H is arguably the biggest point during that time, which is kind of crazy to think about True. Yeah, and I mean that was the rise of Cena. Also, that was from Cena. Is it the peak? You know Batista Orton like dude, there was a lot of yeah, I mean they Undertaker was still doing this thing. Yeah, they they made a lot of stars out of this era So yeah, that would be a fun thing to go through. I
00:36:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's still wrestling too. So it's always great. Even when wrestling is bad, it's still great. Let's go to a match that I absolutely fucking love that I think Jordan's a little bit more lukewarm on. So this is April 1996. In your house, good friends, better enemies. HBK defending the world championship against Diesel in a no holds barred match.
00:36:48
Speaker
Let's start by Jordan. This was in Omaha. Why were you not at this show? First of all, I'm 11 years old at this time. So it's not like... No excuses. Hey, no excuses. I'm 11 years old and it's not like you just tell my parents, hey, I need to go to this show tomorrow. The worst part about it is the lawyer wrestles on this too and I didn't even get to go to this pay-per-view.
00:37:09
Speaker
I don't remember what happened, but something happened this weekend where we couldn't go. Cause I remember talking to my mom about this, how much I wanted to go. And I don't remember what happened, but for some reason I couldn't go to it. Yeah, this was, so again, Sean's one month off of winning the belt from Brett at WrestleMania 12. I think this is arguably as over as he ever was as a baby face right here, at least in his first round. I think he was a little bit more beloved, universally beloved his second time around.
00:37:38
Speaker
But as far as his first time goes, I think this was at the height of his babyface powers because it was just a couple months after this that Vader started getting a push against him and Sid and Vader and Sid had support from the Smarks, right? At this time, though, even the Smarks were loving HBK because he was so good in ring. It's his diesels last match before heading down south to start the NWO with Scott Hall.
00:38:00
Speaker
And I just think this match fucking rocks man like Sean takes that crazy jackknife through the table. Uncleared table right there's TVs and everything on there was way more reckless than the table spots they have nowadays. These ones up using the artificial leg of the legend Mad Dog the Sean is a weapon, but my favorite spot man like it gives me like I don't know if I wouldn't say it gives me chills it like
00:38:23
Speaker
It just, it makes me, it warms up my wrestling fan heart. Um, I'm smiling from ear to ear. Every time I go back to watch it, Sean goes over clean as a sheet, right? He hits, I want to say he hits two straight chin musics. I think he hits one and then he goes to the corner and does the whole tune of the band routine. He stomped in loud, stop the slow. And if you watch, they got like the wide cam on as he's doing it. There's a section of probably about 15 or 20 kids up in the stands that they're stomping along with Sean Michaels as he's stomping. They're like stomping.
00:38:52
Speaker
and clapping their hands along with him as he's stomping it. You can just tell the whole stadium's behind him. He freaking knocks out Diesel with the sweet chain music pins in. Gets up afterwards. He does Diesel's taunt. He does, he mocks Hulk Hogan's poses. And then he does the,
00:39:09
Speaker
the Razor Ramon taunt as well to just kind of basically be like, fuck you guys for leaving. Cause this was also Razor Ramon's last pay per view. Also he fought Diesel or he fought Vader in the undercard. I just, I love this freaking match, man. And the actual Sean Michaels is in the black and blue gear. It's actually one of my most wanted Mattels. Like if they do another ultimate edition Sean, I'd love to see this in figure form. Jordan, what's some of your thoughts on this match?
00:39:33
Speaker
I went back and watched this today actually while I was working just to kind of prepare myself for tonight. Hopefully nobody from farmers is listening. Nobody cares.
00:39:46
Speaker
I don't know, to me, after watching back through this again, this is probably either his best match or one of Kevin Nash's best matches ever. Like, yeah, this match is really good. I don't know why I don't know, man. There's just something about this that made me think it wasn't very good. It's probably the fact that most in your house shows weren't very good.
00:40:07
Speaker
And it was a lot of them were typically like one match shows. Yeah. And it was in Omaha, which generally they do nothing here that gets anyone excited. So I went back and watched it today. And yeah, that Jack knife, the announcers just say nothing for like three minutes after that spot. It was it was really cool. The fire extinguisher spot was a nice touch. But yeah, and Sean absolutely sells his ass off in this match. Like every single move that diesel hits, he's selling like a million dollars.
00:40:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's awesome performance from Sean. I think it really submitted him as the man too because you know, he didn't beat Brett 100% clean at WrestleMania 12. Part of this is just probably my Brett Hart, you know, fanaticism talking. But you know, that match ended before they the 60 minute Iron Man match it ended with Sean being locked in the sharpshooter for
00:40:58
Speaker
about a minute. The only reason now to his credit, he didn't submit or tap out. But the only reason that he got out of that hold is because the bell rang like they made Brett let go of it. They should have established that there was going to be overtime if went to a draw. And Sean would still be in the sharpshooter to this day for all we know. But
00:41:15
Speaker
you know, that goddamn gorilla monsoon came out and started OT. And I think a lot of fans like maybe, maybe held that against him, you know, that he didn't quite, there was a little bit of an asterisk over his victory against Brett. But this time, you know, Diesel was still really the man in WWE. Diesel had held the belt for a year.
00:41:32
Speaker
He lost it to Brett at Survivor Series that prior November. And Brett, honestly, as much as it pains me to say, he was more of a transitional champion. You know, he had kind of, he beat British Bulldog clean in his first title defense, but then he lost or he beat Undertaker under, or excuse me, he lost to Undertaker by DQ after Diesel interfered.
00:41:50
Speaker
He beat diesel the next month only because Undertaker interfered and then he lost Sean so Brett's his third title reign really what there wasn't much to it. So diesel was still kind of the man in WWF and I think it just made Sean to beat him 123 in the center of the ring that night. I mentioned earlier that diesel use mad dog for Sean's leg. Jordan what's your all time favorite foreign object used.
00:42:13
Speaker
I'm not going to lie, this is pretty high up on it because it's Omaha's own Mad Dog shot, no less. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good point. Yeah, this is pretty high up for me, mainly because the fact that when he pulls the leg off and hands it to him, I was dying in my office because I had forgotten about it. I'm just like, who hands someone a leg to use? Dude, it's like an ECW crowd. They're like, here, just take this.
00:42:42
Speaker
So I'll go with that because it is hilarious watching him hit him with it. For some reason, even though it's kind of like.
00:42:50
Speaker
Horrible looking back on it, dude. I think one of my favorite foreign objects is Scott Hall using the taser on Goldberg and Star K 98 man I don't know why that one just always cracked me up You know that that's how they they decided yeah, this is how we should be Goldberg for the first time Let's use a fucking taser on him before he gets jack-knifed I remember watching that live and I was just like what a terrible idea No wonder this company's gone under
00:43:14
Speaker
Both matches involve Kevin Nash randomly enough, man. What's up? You think maybe Nash has, like, just got a forward object fetish? Possibly. I don't know, man, but looking back on that, what a terrible idea.
00:43:27
Speaker
Goldberg was, yeah, I mean Goldberg's like the hottest thing in the biz and that's how you decide to beat him. And I think Scott Hall and Kevin Nash had even been feuding at the time. So I think that was like how they like reunited. And then to make it worse, five days later, they did the finger poker doom. So you ended Goldberg streak just for Kevin Nash to hand the belt back to Hulk Hogan like five days later, you know.
00:43:48
Speaker
Yeah, that was the one thing that they had over WWE was that they had a star like Goldberg and like he was legit, like he was a legit athlete and they ruined it like that. And I just don't get it. So to this day,
00:44:02
Speaker
Yeah, it was horrible. I still say DDP should enter the streak of Halloween Havoc that year, you know, he had the diamond cutter, which was basically the RKO before the RKO it was besides the stone cold stunner, it was probably the most over finisher in the biz. And it was over as like it could end a match at any points, you could have him hit a diamond cutter out of nowhere pin Goldberg.
00:44:22
Speaker
And then DDP and Goldberg would have been an awesome main event for Starkey that year. And you can have Goldberg get the belt back. And then he just got the streaks out of the way. He still got, you know, all his power and just let him lead you through the next couple of years. But instead we got NWO reboot after NWO reboot and it was just circling the drain, man. Sucks. Cause that roster was loaded. If you go back and look at the 98, 99 WCW roster, it's insane how much talent was
Worst Post-WrestleMania Feuds and Matches
00:44:46
Speaker
on there. Yeah. Those cards are all good. And then you get to 2000 and it's like, Oh God,
00:44:52
Speaker
Yeah, it was rough. On the other side of the fence though 2000 was arguably the greatest year in WWE. It was definitely the peak of the Attitude Era. And that is where our next match is from Backlash 2000, the Rock versus Triple H. It's just an awesome match. Similar to Austin and Do Love at Backlash, or excuse me at Unforgiven 1998. This is your stereotypical Attitude Era match.
00:45:15
Speaker
Ton of interference Steve Austin makes an appearance on this one They battle all over the arena and it just has it's just wild from the opening bell until the finish I love this match. What about you Jordan? Yeah, this is fantastic
00:45:30
Speaker
Like you said, there is literally so much interference in this match. I kind of forgot Austin came up because he's still hurt at this point. He can't even bump at this point. I mean, they basically just wanted to pop the crowd and basically screw the McMahons over. So yeah, it was a good match. I enjoyed it.
00:45:48
Speaker
Yeah, we wouldn't see Austin for another six months after this. At WrestleMania 2000 or WrestleMania 16, if you're a traditionalist, the main event was a McMahon in every corner. It was a fatal four way for the belt with Triple H against The Rock, Big Show and Mankind.
00:46:07
Speaker
I think, you know, I mean obviously the McMahons have always driven ratings that's the one thing I will say in their defense. Dave Meltzer's even talked about that as much as people criticize all their involvement on stuff ratings do tend to be higher when they're an active part of the programming. I don't know why they did that though so just having the rock and triple eight straight up main event mania.
00:46:26
Speaker
and you could have booked it the same way you did this one would that not be an awesome finish to mania having to rock beat triple h with the help of uh steve austin you know i'm thinking shades of restylania 8 where warrior helped hogan like what do you think jordan yeah i just kind of feel like at that time um
00:46:43
Speaker
I don't know, man, it almost feels like they kind of felt like they owed Mankind and Big Show a main event at that time, you know. Big Show was only two years into the company at that point. I just, I feel like they thought they owed him one and that's why they did it. I got why they did it, like you said, the McMans are gonna insert themselves any way they can. So I didn't mind the main event of WrestleMania 2000, honestly. I thought it was kind of a cool concept.
00:47:10
Speaker
Granted, then you have this match a month later that absolutely blows that match out of the water. So looking back on it, it was probably should have just been rocking Triple H, but I didn't mind. Yeah, it's definitely revisionist history for me, too, because I was intrigued by the the fatal four way for the main event as well. I think, you know, it was really kind of starting in in 98 through 2000 when WWE started doing the multi man matches and it kind of peaked at WrestleMania 16. Like I want to say that's the WrestleMania where there's only like one
00:47:39
Speaker
1v1 match on the whole freaking card. So yeah, and at the time I thought it was cool too. It seemed like they were just really compelling, but yeah, it just stands out because I think this is probably the one time more than any others that the post-Mania match just completely dwarfs what they did at Mania. Before we get into our last match we're going to discuss, do you have anything that sticks out as your worst post-WrestleMania kind of feud or match?
00:48:07
Speaker
Oh, yeah, 100%. Daniel Bryan wrestling Kane the month after he had his awesome WrestleMania 30 win is absolutely atrocious. I thought about that one, man, that for some reason that one flashed my mind. But I think that's a fun match, man. I think the feud was stupid, right? Like they were
00:48:25
Speaker
by that point, Kane had been in the mid card, you know, upper mid card for so long, it was hard to take him serious as, you know, much less a credible world championship threat, but they were presenting him as like a horror character. It was like a straight up scary movie storyline where Bree was, you know, going to get kidnapped and they went heavy on the supernatural stuff. Daniel Bryan and Bree would have to act like they were scared and trying to escape the arena.
00:48:51
Speaker
But I thought the actual match was pretty fun, man. Where Daniel Bryan goes up and hits the flying headbutt off the forklift? Okay, I'm not saying the match was bad, but that's the feud you have him follow up with beating Batista or even Triple H at Mania. I don't know, man. It just didn't sit right with me.
00:49:10
Speaker
It felt like they gave his baby face momentum to the shield because remember they were going to do the Triple H Daniel Bryan rematch for the belt the night after mania and the shield came out and rescued him and then the shield started feuding with evolution while Daniel Bryan pivoted to the cane thing. So it seems like they transferred all the juice Daniel Bryan had to the shield for whatever reason.
00:49:34
Speaker
Yeah, that that one was a weird one. This wasn't immediately after WrestleMania but it was shortly after mania the Seth and Baron Corbin when I still go back to that as being one of the most disastrous feuds in the history of professional wrestling so Seth is White hot, you know, they actually had a over top babyface in WWE Coming off of mania. He beat Brock for the belt first title defense was actually that was one of those weird years where money in the bank was the first
00:50:03
Speaker
was the first event after Mania. He beats AJ in a really, really cool match at Money in the Bank and then immediately goes into this like three month long storyline with Baron Corbin that just sucked all the life out of his run. And in some ways Seth has never really recovered from it, man, it's sad to say. So I think that was probably my worst one. Worst individual match though is definitely Diesel and Sid, the original, the one that started it off. This was April 1995, the first time they had in your house the month after Mania.
Classic Matches Revisited
00:50:34
Speaker
This was the night after mania 11 psycho Sid turned on Shawn Michaels and You know diesel came back to help submit Shawn Michaels as a baby face and started feuding with Sid now diesel Kevin Nash He could have really good matches with the right opponent I don't know if Sid could really have good matches anybody Sid was over I like Sid Sid was cool but he was more just like the vibe and the look and that kind of the energy and presence he had he never really had any bangers and
00:50:59
Speaker
in the ring but you put him and Kevin Nash together it was the most slow plotting main event I've ever seen and I absolutely just hate that match even though I'm a big fan of both guys. Yeah that's basically a one-star match to me there's nothing good about that match it is awful and to even see that because I went through like post WrestleMania matches like the month after Mania and that was on there I'm like oh my god that match is atrocious how did this even make the list?
00:51:28
Speaker
Yeah, that was, yeah, it was a weird one man. Up next, the last match we're gonna discuss is Steve Austin versus The Rock, The Rock making his second straight appearance on here. This is from Backlash 99, so the year prior. It was a direct rematch from the main event of WrestleMania 15. I thought in a lot of ways this match outshined the one from
00:51:47
Speaker
from 15 big time. WrestleMania 15 was kind of weird from the jump. Steve Austin actually forgot his vest that day. He had to come to the ring in a t-shirt. I just feel like that threw the whole vibe off from the start, man. What's your memories of WrestleMania 15, Jordan? I actually think that's one of their worst matches that they had. Just nothing seemed right about that match. So yeah, this was definitely a huge upgrade. And to have your first ever backlash pay-per-view with this as the main event,
00:52:18
Speaker
This is a good main event to start off backlash with. So yeah, I definitely dig this match. This was actually the last in your house event also. I think this was in your house backlash. And then after that, the in your house name was completely dropped. So pretty historically significant. I put this one second on my all time favorite Austin Rock matches. I know a lot of people love the match from 17. They were both kind of at the height of their powers. But that one, the ending I didn't really like, man.
00:52:46
Speaker
Austin turning heel joining with Vince just never really sat right with me. They're one of their master WrestleMania 19 is probably my all time favorite. I put this one right below that. How about you? I think this is okay so 17 and 19 are definitely above this for me. And then I want to say Survivor Series 2001. Yeah, it's Survivor Series 2001. I think those three are better than this match but this one's still really good.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah, anytime you put Austin and The Rock in the same match, it's always gonna be pretty good. This one's no different. That's pretty much it. You got any kind of wrap-up thoughts on post-Wrestlemania feuds and matches, Jordan?
00:53:23
Speaker
Um, no, there is one thing I want to say about this match. They did hit us with the swerve of swerves when Vince hit Shane with the title in the ring though. Um, that kind of made this match memorable considering Shane was the guest referee. But, um, no, they use, like I said at the beginning, they usually do a pretty good job with these WrestleMania blow off paper views. Um, they generally give you some new stuff as well as wrapping up some WrestleMania feuds. So.
00:53:48
Speaker
This was a fun one to do. We were excited to do this one. So yeah, this was a good one.
00:53:54
Speaker
These things are really important, especially for new babyface champions. You know, we talked about how Sean had his first big match against Diesel. Seth had the disastrous feud with Baron Corbin. Like if you're a newly crowned babyface champion, it's very, very important that they give you something where you can keep the momentum going off of WrestleMania. Because there's nothing quite like a WrestleMania victory, but all that can go up in smoke a couple weeks after Mania if it's not booked correctly.
00:54:19
Speaker
Yeah, Jordan, the rock goes baby face the night after this, too. He's like the biggest baby face in the company the night after this pay review. Yeah, this will ultimately lead to the formation of the corporate ministry.
Conclusion and Farewell
00:54:31
Speaker
And I think the less said about that whole story, the better. That was one of the all time worst payoffs in wrestling history. That's a wrap for Pod Warriors number three. Jordan, remind the listeners where they can find you on social media. You can find me at the Fig God on Instagram.
00:54:48
Speaker
All right and remember to follow my wife Sheena at Chick Foley to keep up with all of our wrestling fandom and check out the Pot Foundation to keep up with all the the entire family of shows. Jordan give us some closing thoughts before we wrap this one up. Okay we're going to do a two quote week this week that's going to be my closing thoughts. First one we're going with uh Roddy Roddy Piper quote just when they think they know the answers I change the questions and the last one courtesy of me
00:55:16
Speaker
We're the Pod Warriors, and you're not. She sits alone by lamppost, trying to find the thought that escaped her mind. She says there's the one I love the most, but time's not far behind.
00:55:50
Speaker
only tells me where she's been when she's had too much to drink I said that I don't care I just run my hands through her dark hair then I pray to God you gotta help me fly away and just let her cry
00:56:33
Speaker
And if the sun comes up tomorrow, let her be.