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73: Thenatic Similarity
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🗣️ Discussing dragons and data mines (DRAGONS!!) 🐲🥰
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- 🫰 Weeks in Snap!!
- 👻 Fantomex follow-up
- Shou-Lao the Undying 🐉 Lockheed 🐉 Majestic Wingbeat 🐉 Dragon of the Moon
- 🫅 Dragon Lord & 👊 Lin Lie Iron Fist vibes
- March data mines 🏇🏇🏇🏇
- Secret Homework 🤫: Design a tech card (haters only 🤭)
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Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Intro / Our Week in Snap
- 0:18:25 Fantomex
- 0:19:50 Shou-Lao the Undying
- 0:33:14 Lockheed
- 0:35:40 Majestic Wingbeat
- 0:43:41 Dragon of the Moon
- 0:48:32 Dragon Lord / High Voltage Overdrive
- 0:51:40 Lin-Lie Iron Fist
- 0:53:28 Patch Discussion
- 0:55:44 Iceman
- 0:57:37 Sam Wilson Captain America
- 1:04:20 Datamined Cards
- 1:36:64 Secret Homework: Design a Tech Card
- 1:50:10 Next Week's Secret Homework
- 1:53:57 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
Introduction to Episode 73 & Secret Homework
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to episode 73 of Snap on This, a Marvel Snap podcast. This week's secret homework, design a tech card. I'm your host, Lauren Waddubs, here with my usual amazing, delightful co-hosts. First up this week, Rhi.
00:00:14
Speaker
How was your week in Snap? And keep it snappy. Okay.
Gratitude and Reflection by Rhi
00:00:18
Speaker
um First, and thank you to everyone who ah signed up. I got all the beta testers I need. All the feedback I've gotten his been... i knew you would....getting useful. So um i really, i really appreciate that. um And then i thought I had, like, a really busy... I was actually, like, kind of excited and re-jazzed. I won't lie, like...
00:00:42
Speaker
of a dragon girl. Like, you know, some girls are horse girls and I was at a phase in life because like, uh, I was into whatever my friends were into because they had more money and more toys.
00:00:55
Speaker
Uh, but like dragons were my thing cause they existed mostly in books, which were, you know, the library was free to all. And I still have a fondness for like, I still bust out. There's this book. Some people may recognize it. Dragonflight.
00:01:09
Speaker
by ann mcaffery yeah you already checked it once recently oh did i once okay not surprisingly my sister was a big fan too yep it was even before my time i love how like you get so retro in the books you read when you're a kid because it's just stuff off the library shelves yeah and i was a kid i didn't know was like from the seven it's not that old i think it's probably early ninety s i think the 80s, or like some stuff's from the 70s, right? You don't know. It's just fantasy. Anyway, so Dragon Season, right?
00:01:39
Speaker
Like a lot of stuff to get excited. And then like actually just had like a whirlwind kind of busy couple days, and I haven't had as much of a chance to
Dragon Season Excitement & Gaming Philosophy
00:01:48
Speaker
dig in. i did purchase. As much as I usually try to save money, i was just like...
00:01:54
Speaker
I need some joy in life and I got Lockheed because I love Kitty Pryde I love hard wagon. And I also got, um i was like, oh I'm going to buy Majestic Wingbeat too. And then it was like, no, not for sale. I'm like, I guess I could wait for it to show up in daily cards. And I was like, no.
00:02:15
Speaker
This is a game that is supposed to bring me joy, not where I'm supposed to budget and scrimp and plan like every area of my life. This should be fun. It should splurge. It should be the things I don't get to do IRL, not just another version. of okay anyway.
00:02:31
Speaker
So I was like, let me just get, you know, ah a seasonal series four. And like, I don't hate if I get anything, but you know, maybe. And then boom, majestic wing beat, which know everyone was down on, but I'm excited for it. I want to play with it.
00:02:48
Speaker
Um... And I put together I even opened that, like a I was just like a good like if you're feeling you're just like, oh want to do something new, but I'm lazy and I don't want to like think together a whole deck, you know, on my own. a good. ah she is like, I'm just like, oh, I know I want to play like Lockheed and Shao Lao the Undying.
00:03:15
Speaker
so I put those in together and auto filled it. And it was just like, Oh, and Elsa, yes, thank you. You know what mean? And then it's just like, you just take that deck, and if you're worried about your rank, you take it to Conquest, and you just play, and you see what you like and you don't like, or what tech you really miss having, and then you just make it your own, and just like the lazy the lazy cook's guide 15-minute deck.
00:03:37
Speaker
You know, for your weeknight deck building dinners. Okay, sorry. you know, ah like this was not what I planned to talk about at all for my weekend and snap. I got very distracted, but I think I will just, ah to keep like it snappy, I won't now launch into another big long thing. We will know you can do it there.
00:04:02
Speaker
ah yeah curious I want to know what the big long thing is Save for the outro. I could save it for the outro.
New Year Reflections and Community Bonds
00:04:10
Speaker
Either way, stay with me. I kind of want to know now.
00:04:17
Speaker
Well, you know, I had been thinking, okay, about it was it is it's a New Year's thing because we had talked a little bit about last time, and I totally get where people are burned out on the idea of, like, you know, everyone signs up for the gym and it doesn't go for the gym. And, like... New Year's. But the thing is about New Year's is I like it as a holiday because i already have I already let go of a lot of holidays that don't serve me or bring me joy. And I like a moment to step back and kind of like look bigger picture. And it doesn't have to be at New Year's. can be at any time. But um ah for me... Like, it's like it's it feels like a good time. Well, she doing it's winter you indoors and um it's not my birthday, which would be the other introspective year.
00:05:06
Speaker
So, um you know, so I to I like. to i like to consider it and just take the commercialization out of it and you can get something something useful from it. And I was bringing back, for me, this year closed out on like finishing the Merm Game. I really like had to buckle down. i really kind of like withdrew like to work on that and deal with hell stuff. And also, i've just been I was like really sick for a week, just totally out. and
00:05:36
Speaker
Um, you know, and now coming out of that, like, my name's, like, progressing slowly out of my hands, mostly. And, you know, i feel a bit like Inigo Montoya, like I had this goal for so long, and it was the only important thing, and I had to, like, get rid of all other distractions to complete it. And now I am free, and I'm just like, who am I as a person anymore?
00:06:00
Speaker
Now what? You know, but yeah, when I think back to where I want to be and in this year, because you know what? Like, it's just like 2026. Buckle It's going to be another tough Like, was pretty obvious. No, we're going to fix it this time, right?
00:06:17
Speaker
Yeah. So, you know, when I think back to like it' like how how we can, you know get through this and stuff, it always right comes back to community because, you know, it's nice when everyone can get together and be like, you know, Happy New Year's. or happy holidays or whatever. And and my moment was just like how much finding the Snap community changed me. Because like i mostly just kept to myself and like didn't. Like my actual dream for like, because before Snap, Snap wasn't my first attempt to kind of like like oh no no I'm kind of lonely. Maybe it'd be nice if they like I had other people to talk to about things I like.
00:06:55
Speaker
um My like wildest stream of interaction with a larger group of people is like, maybe I'll write some FF14 fan fiction it'll get really popular and then people will talk about it in forums and I can like ghost them um nice You know, that was like my wildest thing.
00:07:11
Speaker
I never would have imagined I was like willing. I've always, you know, like been more of a behind the camera kind of person. In fact, I was such a loser in college that I found out if I walked around with a digital camera.
00:07:24
Speaker
like events or anywhere I went, I could just pretend like I was there for like a school paper or something. I would just go around and take pictures. And it gave me a role. And yeah, people just assumed, I guess, either they were just weirded out by me, I don't know, or they just assumed I was there to like take pictures for something and just kind of like... the I know. I've been that through a lot of weird phases, but it was like a role I could play. I wish I could go back in time and be like...
00:07:52
Speaker
Yes, you are a loser. Let me ah zoom you forward to
Self-Expression and Rebellion in Snap
00:07:57
Speaker
2025 where occasionally you will drive by this thing called a cyber truck.
00:08:03
Speaker
No. did earlier today Okay. so um
00:08:14
Speaker
Okay, before the new year, right? And I was also remembering back in another somber moment, we had an episode um that was a bit somber decided to do an episode anyway. And we all did like, Choruses of the Witch's Road was the thing. And I felt like at that moment, it was kind of like a going to ground moment, like hiding for safety, still finding community and stuff. But I was thinking, i was thinking today, Okay. About like, right. It's a new hair. Like give yourself some joy. Give yourself a new hair day. You know, it's, it's new hair day. And I was thinking today how ah most people just, you know, let my hair be as, you know, free as the wind, do what it wants to do.
00:08:57
Speaker
Whatever my hairstylist decides. And, um, uh, but what I've been told most, actually multiple people have told me, you know, you look best as a blonde and, you know I mean, blonde's fun occasionally, right? But I still just do whatever I want because it brings me joy. And it reminded me that like the first rebellion for a lot of us was the moment where we chose to be ourselves audaciously, despite other people trying to dictate that for us and tell us who we should be or what we are. So I think this year ah in the new year,
00:09:36
Speaker
you know As much as you can, be yourself and be it loud. and That in itself is a rebellion against you know against the grayness and the oppression. I mean, not the happy grayness. I like a good rainy day, honestly. I'm kind of weird. like Happy when it rains, but not like ironically so. um But you know what mean? So it's just like find joy you can because it'll be in tight supply. Find um people, I guess. um
00:10:08
Speaker
Let me let me let me close it all out. with quoting ah someone ah who has brought me hope lately when I'm looking for a hopeful future and to remind us to look out for each other that, you know, we should make it so that if they come for any one of us, they have to go through all of us.
00:10:27
Speaker
um And that was a long preamble with at least some of my thoughts about We Can Snap. Hmm. Hmm. It's a very hopeful message. ah Glad we got it up front.
00:10:40
Speaker
Me too. i and How was your week in Snap? And Geep is snappy. Well, endeavoring to keep it snappy, as I pretty much always do.
00:10:51
Speaker
oh It's been a pretty good weekend snap. You know,
Ben's Week in Snap and Deck Strategies
00:10:55
Speaker
I've been, ah did some traveling this week. Got to play some Magic the Gathering. That's sort of like Snap. We borrow stuff. I played against wait some dragons.
00:11:09
Speaker
Was it Elder Highlander Dragon were playing Commander. yeah So I was... No, that's cool. I heard that's the way, right? Yeah, it's fine. you know it's's It's alright. It's a little goofy. You're selling me so hard, Ben. I'm so convinced. It's alright. You know what else is alright?
00:11:29
Speaker
ah For one of the one of the games of Commander, I yeah i borrowed ah my friend's Final Fantasy X deck and it did tickle me.
00:11:40
Speaker
There were a lot of I mean, like, all the illustrations were, like, fantastic and recognizable as different locales and moments and characters and enemies and things. And, you know, I'm not crazy about the fortnightification of Magic the Gathering, but, like, I don't live there anymore. It's fine, you know? Like, I'm not really in it. So they can their own way. Anywho...
00:12:10
Speaker
um anyho
00:12:15
Speaker
The snap part of my weekend snap has been going pur pretty well. I got the first day one infinite I've had in a while. I mean, like I used to get him on the reg, but like with, you know.
00:12:32
Speaker
uh that this one just sort of happened because um man some of these cards some these cards are pretty good i've got a pretty good deck i feel like maybe we'll have to talk about it later um i think i uh i know what i'm gonna play in the golden gauntlet wintery mix Um, that's coming up on Saturday.
00:12:53
Speaker
Um, man, it's been a pretty prolific weekend snap just in the past couple days. Um, as, as I sometimes mention, we like to record on Thursdays. So that means the season started two days ago. So i got my day one infinite. And then yesterday I got, um, three infinity tickets and, um, Oh, one of these cards is very strong.
00:13:18
Speaker
Um, Also, I was i had like a small bit of ah panic earlier in the week when I was like, oh my gosh, is this an OTA week? Is this going to throw off everything I i know for ah the the Golden Gauntlet Wintry Mix? Oh no. and I was relieved to learn that no, there was not an OTA because I will be...
00:13:42
Speaker
Very surprised if next week Maverick is still a That's nuts. That's nuts. That's going to change. I think that he has less plot armor than other broken cards right now. So I think he'll be the one to get hit. I bet he goes to 4 or he goes to 2 power 1 power or 0 power.
00:14:07
Speaker
Like, they're they're going to hit Maverick. oh um But that's fine, because Maverick will still be three three this weekend. and And that's that's cool. i Man, I should save these decks for later when we're talking about the new cards.
00:14:26
Speaker
Okay, you can. some ah Some good feedback about 200 bad guys with s swords, and that really warmed my heart. I'm really glad people are enjoying it.
00:14:38
Speaker
I think it's a really fun deck. I am a little bit concerned that in the current environment, decks like the ones I'm going to talk about later are going to be putting up just an unmatchable like kind of points you know just like larger numbers than decks are really equipped to compete with and that's that's a bummer and I mean like 200 bad guys with sports was not intended to be like the most competitive deck, but I'm like, I'm looking at the, the ends of games here. And I'm like, what would that deck be doing in this situation against what I'm playing right now? And I'm, I'm just like, I'm worried that I released it.
00:15:21
Speaker
I got it out there into the world just in time for it to become obsolete. And, uh, Whatever. I don't know. it It was never intended to be super competitive, but like, dang, the numbers, the numbers that I'm seeing are very large. I'm very excited to tell you about those decks, too.
00:15:37
Speaker
um Anything else happen it in my week in snap in my week in snap? ah um If I think of something, I will surely blurt it out later. Lauren, I must know.
00:15:53
Speaker
How was your week in snap? a Snap's been good. I am just hanging out in the mid-80s, which is fine. which is fine um Rocketed there with Shulao stuff.
00:16:07
Speaker
By the way, they said Shulao in the They also said Zombie Galacty. Yeah. And I think last week, or one of the weeks, I like pronunciation checked it and it came back with Shulao. But I've since been told it's from Chinese, it's probably Shulao.
00:16:23
Speaker
Or at least closer to Shulao. Yeah. The best um our mouths can do. Yeah. Yeah. i Anyway, that card's silly. We'll talk about him in a second.
00:16:37
Speaker
Uh, this week, probably perhaps the most notable thing is I started a new YouTube series thing adjacent to fourth
New YouTube Series: Series Six
00:16:48
Speaker
location. It's going to be called series six. We're talking to guests about something they want to talk about in the world of snap for, you know, uh, the goal is 15 to 30 minutes, but if it goes over, that's fine. The whole point is to hear somebody talk about something they're passionate about.
00:17:04
Speaker
I'm sure we'd be happy to have you two on if either of you are interested. Oh, I would be interested. Okay. Well, think about what you want to rant to us about. We can both talk. Yeah, i know I know. Our first week was... hey Yeah, oh it's good. you You guys carry this show. um Our first first one that we just recorded, it's not live yet, but it will be probably Friday. Probably by the time you're listening to this. um Go to the Fourth Location YouTube channel and listen to Safety Blade talk about cooking with new cards. i
00:17:38
Speaker
i It surprised me ah some of the ways that he thinks about deck building. and spoilers for towards the end, but especially how much it connects to how I think about deck building for clip hunting. I was like, this whole time I thought i thought deck building for competitive play seemed kind of boring. um But I think that if I start thinking of it as more of a puzzle, I might find it very exciting. And I found the conversation with safety to be quite inspirational.
00:18:10
Speaker
Anyway, um those those are the highlights. I got a couple cool clips. I did a silly Wong thing with Sam Wilson because he's on reveal now. Check those out.
00:18:22
Speaker
I like silly Wong clips. Yeah. Ben, do you want to say something about last week's card, Phantom X? Oh, yeah. um So there I was, cracking open my seasonal series four pack.
00:18:37
Speaker
And who did I discover hiding out but two wild children in a trench coat? A white trench coat, specifically. That's right. It was fucking Phantom X just sneaking into my collection, just like ah other bonus cards like Zombie Galacti. Hooray.
00:19:01
Speaker
I'm now the proud owner of Phantom X. That's the main reason you got a Day One Infinite, right? Yep, that was the card that carried. Yep, absolutely. I knew it. Absolutely.
00:19:13
Speaker
so maybe, you know, he's not like, he could be a real card under circumstances, you know. yeah i could I could try to build with him, you know. If if they nerf some other things, he might seem worthwhile. i don't i don't i don't think I don't think they're going to nerf enough stuff to make Phantom X good. um But maybe, I don't know.
00:19:36
Speaker
I guess it's better to have him than not to have him. I can never open him out of a snap pack again. i think that's probably the best I can say. Yeah, Phantom X. He's on the team.
00:19:49
Speaker
Great. ah We're going to talk about this week's new cards. There are four, and as previously mentioned, we've had you know two days to play with them. Yeah. Take that with a grain of salt.
Shulao Card Analysis and Strategies
00:20:02
Speaker
First up, our season pass card, Shu Lau, The Undying, 5-8. On reveal, give the last character you played plus three power. For each turn, you played two or more cards. um i This card is very silly.
00:20:16
Speaker
And it's everywhere. um I hope that means that the season pass is selling. because like It must be. i I like when the game is monetized that way.
00:20:30
Speaker
It feels more sustainable. They clearly overtuned We all know plus three is the mark of a later nerf. Plus three is always too much. you know There's a reason Forge doesn't give plus 12.
00:20:44
Speaker
um I don't know. Is that a Maverick reference? I was just talking about Shilau. Buffing something for plus 12. Yeah.
00:20:57
Speaker
no Have you seen the Rian Gonzalez variants? Oh, I didn't just see it, Rhi. I bought it on site.
00:21:08
Speaker
Absolutely. Must have. Absolutely. I'm hoping the Lockheed one will show in the Majestic Weenby because I just got them today so they're not in my shop. and I'm like, I need to keep them in own. I'm so glad that I didn't buy the last gold bundle I was considering that now I might have chibi dragons galore. Me. Okay. Hey, you know, the moon was especially so cute.
00:21:31
Speaker
These recent gold bundles have been pretty easy to pass on, especially when they have garbage-ass studio art that looks AI-generated to me. I'm like, even even if the the value were good for like progression, i do not want to support that. it's so sad. been skipping all those. so It's like, how can we strip artists? More money to spend on Rian Gonzalez because she's real.
00:21:54
Speaker
Right? Because you're saying Rian Gonzalez and the whole point of a studio is like, how can we how can we strip the artists of their own names that they may not get any credit that we may pay them much less? like Or, you know, like not at all.
00:22:13
Speaker
I worked in consulting, I remember, and they were like they were always concerned. I'm like, how can we make them less attached to the people so we can swap them out? People we could pay less. and Whatever. Okay.
00:22:26
Speaker
Yeah, the dragons! I don't have to pay artists anything if they just, like, you know... Mid-Journey it or whatever the fuck they use. I don't know what they're about, but I'm i'm very suspicious of some of these studios. I mean, to be fair, didn't like Michelangelo and stuff kind of do the same thing where they're just like, it's the whole shop, but they're like, this is Michelangelo, meaning his five apprentices. but you know Yeah, but like probably pay the money. And they were tracing even back then. The art of stealing credit from other people paying them less is along a long tradition of humanity.
00:23:05
Speaker
Okay. Sorry. Bringing us down. I gotta to stop doing that.
00:23:11
Speaker
ah Okay. Shulao. Everybody's playing Shulao. Everyone's playing him with Scarlet Spider. It's finally Ben's time. I mean, Ben Riley, but also Ben, who who believed in Scarlet Spider all along. That's true. I mean, I have believed in Scarlet Spider. I still generally believe in Scarlet Spider. I don't believe Scarlet Spider is the best thing to be doing with Shulao.
00:23:35
Speaker
stacking up maverick and jocasta getting out like multiple spider clones that are worth 20 power it's just very silly um my my but even if you're even if you're not being cute what was that I said, I just want to do some Kitty Elsa bullshit. Like, I know that may not be the best thing you can do, but that's what I want to do. I think Kitty's really good. She is an excellent way to to trigger Sholao and Lockheed. Make sure you have repeatedly. It's either her or Merlin, right? You need a way to have a repeated one. Or both.
00:24:08
Speaker
Or both. Magic and dragons. But then Kitty has the advantage of being like, she can actually take the buff, right? You can't do that with the skills. um and And then being able to sequence her sequence her on turn six so you can choose who gets get the power.
00:24:23
Speaker
um Because Shola will buff her if she's face down, if she was the last thing you played before him, um which is interesting. ah my My favorite cute little thing to do with Shola, but I've seen a few other people doing, is playing him with Wasp.
00:24:35
Speaker
Getting the one extra buff is, I think, worth it. Especially if it means that you get to you know double or triple that extra plus three because you have Maverick against going on.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah. What do you two think? I don't think this card has... There's no way that this card isn't getting nerfed. Absolutely not. It's disgusting. we But we all knew that. Yeah. We already talked about it.
00:25:02
Speaker
It's good. Play it with buff stuff. Play it with not buff stuff. You're usually playing two or more cards on a turn. It's not very limiting. There's one buff card that it's very specifically like the best with and like Ooh, it's Maverick.
00:25:19
Speaker
Sholau is so good with Maverick. So good with Maverick. It's just the thing that I mentioned last week where you Maverick's the last thing you play on five. Then on six, you play Sholau, activate Maverick, and something else.
00:25:34
Speaker
And then you've thrown power onto all three lanes. like maybe Maybe you only put eight power on one of the lanes because it's Sholau. them themselves i i don't know if that dragon has a gender or anything um not really all that versed on show but yeah oh my gosh like i ah maybe maybe with jacasta the scarlet spider stuff works i just i worry that you don't control it as uh tightly as you can with like so what i'm what i like to do all right let me just tell you about what i what i've been playing
00:26:10
Speaker
ah I could start with the bad show. My bad show loud deck is not that bad. Honestly, pretty good. good So I want to talk about the good one.
00:26:23
Speaker
um The version that I used to cross the infinite finish line had Mercury in it, but I'm just going to skip ahead to the version that I think I'm going to play in Golden Gauntlet Winter Remix.
00:26:34
Speaker
And that one is America Chavez, Nico Minoru, Surge, Merlin, Brood, Captain Carter, Silver Surfer, Maverick, Hope Summers, Copycat, Absorbing Man, and Show Low the Undying.
00:26:47
Speaker
And what we like to do there is just make sure you got eight energy going into turn six. It's not that hard. As I mentioned last week, seven energy is baby town frolics. um So what we're doing is maybe two things on hope, maybe a single once in future on turn five. It's not that hard to get eight. So once you've got your eight and the last card you played is Maverick, right? Of course. um I already mentioned that part. So yeah, you close with Maverick on five and then boom, Sholau the Maverick.
00:27:19
Speaker
Fucking huge brood. Just, ah you know, throw like 60 power or whatever in some lane. What's that called? Sholau? yeah rosy Yeah. It's Buckwild. If you want a quick tip on how to play that deck, if that deck feels like something you want to play, um you should you should want to play it That's what I think. ah don't Don't play a one on turn one most of the time unless you've got Merlin in your hand. Just ah save the ones for later. You'll play them eventually, and ah it's just about...
00:27:51
Speaker
Making sure you're playing two things or more. Oh my gosh, I'm seeing a lot of Thena out there. And I think that is a trap and a trick. At least I saw that on the climb up. Thena, like, I see the thematic similarity. I know why you're associating Thena with Sholau. It's just that, like, Sholau does numbers on a level that Thena doesn't, like...
00:28:18
Speaker
Thena is not relevant to the deck. Yeah. yeah Okay. So I actually played it because it was in my auto deck and I did was able to sneak in a game with Thena before the podcast and already is because like the deck has like Merlin in it and Kate Bishop and I already drew Kitty and it's like I constantly was like it's a but but I did. I'm like, who's Thena?
00:28:45
Speaker
For Thena, I will... Yeah, I was getting lot of cards in my hand. And i since I was playing Thena early and I was playing her in like the um Power Nexus and stuff, I was... I don't know. i was triggering her, but it was a bummer because i'm like, oh, I could be playing so many cards.
00:29:01
Speaker
Wish had a werewolf to bounce around with these cards. you know So it's like, I do kind of think of Thena, unless you're building a different kind of deck, then this deck is a trap, as you were saying. Yeah, if Xhola had the same restriction where you could play exactly two cards, maybe, maybe Fina would be right. But limiting yourself is just, it's not, it's a bad choice.
00:29:24
Speaker
I don't think she she does enough for, I don't know. We'll we'll we'll see. Maybe they'll change Xhola to do the exactly two.
00:29:34
Speaker
Who knows? I'm not playing her in anything anymore except for end of turn. Yeah, I think that's where she lives now. um I thought of another cute Sholao thing that I haven't seen anybody else do, and I think it's strong enough to be worth talking about, which is Grandmaster. If you Grandmaster Sholao, he buffs himself.
00:29:53
Speaker
I mean, depends on the order you played your cards, but I have caught a lot of people off guard with that, and using Sholao twice for seven energy is a pretty good deal. That key. You know what I like to do. Save you from a Shang-Chi.
00:30:07
Speaker
I mentioned a play line with eight energy, but if I have nine energy, sometimes the right thing to do is just show Lao into Absorbing Man. Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:30:18
Speaker
Also, then you can play these cards anywhere. And Grandmaster is great. And like you know there there is something to be said for a seven energy play instead of a nine energy play, but it is a little restrictive in where where you put the things and where you where they end up.
00:30:37
Speaker
And I just, I love the, man, you can just throw so much power into any old lane with this deck that I've described. I really think we're going to see multiple Maverick plus Show Low decks in the top eight of the game decks.
00:30:55
Speaker
And I intend to be one of them. Are you running any tech? ah You know, I was running Mercury, but I think the version I'm going to play is going to have Copycat.
00:31:08
Speaker
um Here's the thing. you don't really need tech when you just go taller than anything. I have never touch never played a deck that puts out this much power. like i'm I'm staying against Zombie Galacti. I'm staying against like negatives and stuff. Have you been seeing any Man's Fighter?
00:31:30
Speaker
Man Spider cannot... Yes, I've been seeing Man Spider, but it does not work like this. If you play a greedy Man Spider deck, gets huge. But it has to be somebody brave enough who can get to top 8 without running into anybody with Shadow King.
00:31:44
Speaker
right Or Cosmo, or a variety of things. But this deck is so resilient. Oh my gosh, I had one very memorable game on my way to Infinite where opponent had two Cosmos in two lanes and the third lane was Crimson Cosmos. So I had one lane where I could play on reveals, but they couldn't be, you know, three cost or lower. So that, ah yeah, ah i still I still won, but dang. Yeah.
00:32:14
Speaker
five Now I want to do Brood and Grandmaster. Like, send the power to Brood with Maverick, and then I can do Broodlings in two lanes. But anyway. ah Let's talk about the other three. That's plus three is too good. There's so many cards that are like, yeah, I'll do great from plus three, you know?
00:32:33
Speaker
The only thing about the Grandmastering ah Brood is that you need so much space there at the end of the game. You need a completely empty lane, and then in the middle, you want there to be one thing tops. Yeah.
00:32:49
Speaker
So like you need to leave one of the sides all the way open and then just one thing in the middle. And that's, wow. You're, you're really living in whatever the other side lane is. If you're playing two cards a turn, that means that you have to be doing lots of skills or kitty. Yeah. Things got to be teenagers themselves. Yeah. But it's a, it's a, it's an interesting idea for sure.
00:33:09
Speaker
yeah i do see the appeal. Maybe it's just cute. um Okay. Okay.
Card Evaluations: Lockheed and Majestic Wingbeat
00:33:15
Speaker
Lockheed, 2-1, end of turn. If you played a one cost card this turn, afflict an enemy card here with minus two power.
00:33:24
Speaker
I have not been very impressed by this card. How about you two?
00:33:29
Speaker
I did buy it, get it But like, i know it's not gonna be that good But I wanted it anyway But I haven't fully gotten to play it But i will, unlike Shula i already forgot how to say it Shula Shula, okay Unlike Shula ah Won't be running into Complete mirrors Lockheed everywhere So that will give me joy And be worth is it to me But yeah, I can see why people think that.
00:34:04
Speaker
Ben, have you played any Lockheed or played against? I've played against quite a bit of Lockheed. People are playing Lockheed. um You know when it's felt very powerful is ah when they play it.
00:34:18
Speaker
across from a from Carter or a Maverick. Then it feels powerful. The thing is, Those were kind of lucky circumstances. Or maybe my opponents were, maybe I'm minimizing the skill and they were making incredible reads. And that's that's entirely possible because sometimes the things that just seem like you know random happenstance, somebody was playing to their outs. you know like Somebody was being clever. And I really, i shouldn't dismiss that. Maybe they did do it all on purpose.
00:34:51
Speaker
But anyway, I'm saying most of the time, Lockheed did not feel very strong to me. No, no. I don't don't think it's there. Yeah, some of the problems I've seen with Lockheed, the most common one is playing him too early, which I know you need to play him early so he gets to do his thing, but I see people playing him so early that I just don't play across from him. He doesn't get to do anything. I'll come back on six with Massive Brood.
00:35:19
Speaker
Right. And the other thing that happens is they they play him against one card and I have Merlin so I can just polymorph that card at the end that's taken the minus six power. It's like, yeah, um I don't know. He's just not, his his stats aren't very good and I just don't think he's set up well in the meta. Yeah.
00:35:40
Speaker
a bummer. I like the idea. i won't be surprised at all to see them buff him. Maybe it doesn't feel urgent, but eventually to make him relevant, I don't see this card lasting, you know, longer than the season he's relevant in or like that he's novel.
00:35:55
Speaker
ah Do you think they could switch it from ah end of turn to whenever you play a one cost? That way he would be sort of like Angela, except only for one cost, but you could play them in any e lane.
00:36:06
Speaker
bishop like super bishop but only for one yeah like super bishop like of afflict bishop honestly but only for one costs that might be safe because of how many ways there are because of how bad it is right now well that and just like there's so many ways to deal with affliction right you shadow king are you luke cage or you i you're polymorph don't think I feel like you have to be playing a Luke Cage deck to play Luke Cage. I don't think it's just... Yeah, he's not free tech right now. Throwing Luke in there. Yeah.
00:36:38
Speaker
Okay. ah We're already doing them out of order, so might as well continue. Majestic Wingbeat are a one-cost skill. On reveal, give the leftmost card in your hand plus two power. If it's five cost or higher, minus one cost two
00:36:57
Speaker
Rhi, you got it luckily in a pack. Did you get to play with it Yeah. No, not yet. I am going to do... It didn't feel right for, like, the Shaolau stuff, so I am going to do what I wanted with it, which is, like, Agamotto stuff is where I'll try, like, a Nick Scratch, like, Magic Spells deck.
00:37:17
Speaker
um But... ah Yeah, I do. i'm I'm with, I don't know. I'm still more up on it until it disappoints me. Sit on that pedestal.
00:37:31
Speaker
Untested. Ben? get it ah I have to say, i I think maybe I, here's the thing.
00:37:42
Speaker
I've noticed that a lot of people are kind of high on majestic wing beat. Keep in mind, we recorded this on Thursday. So like there, there've been two days. i think people are like majestic wing beats really good. And what they actually mean is show. Wow. Is really good. And majestic wing beat is fine with them or them. Or I, I should really learn what show. That's deal is. Um,
00:38:03
Speaker
Anywho, anywho,
00:38:07
Speaker
yeah, i saw I saw the card in the shop and I looked at it. And, you know, for whatever reason, when I see them on my phone screen, the cards become real in a way that they never can when they're unreleased things that have been datamined or whatever. Like, they just aren't real yet to me. And then I see them on the phone screen and they're real. And, you know, I just felt it in my heart. I was like, I would rather real.
00:38:28
Speaker
playing around with this card and seeing how it feels than not playing around with this card and seeing how it feels. So yeah, I bought i bought the pack, got Phantom X, complained about it earlier. um so So all those boxes are checked. um Anywho, anywho, I did play Majestic Wingbeat right away. oh yeah um I started my infinite climb with a deck that worked A-OK. I did not stop playing it because it stopped winning. I stopped playing it because I got curious about what if Surfer. um So the deck very creatively is named Cool Cards, and it's got Majestic Wingbeat in it, where Majestic Wingbeat is fine.
00:39:05
Speaker
um I still don't think it's a good card, and I think that this time next week or next month... you know, people are going to get wise to the fact that it is not really the power behind the throne. And, uh, show low is the power in front of on top of, and behind the throne. Uh, it's, it's all just show low. Um, any who the deck is majestic wing beat America Chavez, ice man. Cause I wanted to test out new ice man to Nico Minoru. That's right. We're playing four ones. One of them's a skill. Um,
00:39:39
Speaker
Surge, Merlin, Maverick. ah you might You might say, say those those cards were in your other deck. And yes, yes, they were. But here's where we deviate. Boom, it's Werewolf by Night. Copycat Black Panther. Possibly the weak link of this deck. I was sometimes doing cool stuff with Black Panther, but also a lot of times he just hung out in my hand and did not get played. Cosmic Ghost Rider and Sholao the Undying. So, you know, if Sholao never shows up, you just do like werewolfy stuff.
00:40:11
Speaker
And, you know, even if Sholao does show up, probably do werewolfy stuff on the way to Sholao. But that deck was, ah you know, i I had to put Maverick in it, even though Maverick is not an on reveal because I had a hunch that That the best thing to do with Sholao is the Maverick on five thing that I described. And ah i i my my playing with this deck, I got through like the eight. I don't remember exactly when I switched. I think I made it through the 80s before I switched to the surfer deck. But yeah. Oh, man.
00:40:45
Speaker
the the Maverick Sholao thing is nuts, even if you don't have Brood, even if even if you don't have Acceleration, even if you're just doing Maverick into Sholao plus Iceman or something. like it like you just You just throw in the wildest numbers. um But Majestic Wingbeat was all right there. and In case you weren't counting, there were three five costs in the list just listed.
00:41:08
Speaker
And it seemed...
00:41:11
Speaker
and it seemed Okay there. I don't know if it's worth the deck slot. I kind of think that if I were to go back and optimize this deck, I'd probably swap it out for a Deafening Chord and figure out something else for Black Panther to be. I don't know. that My gut is saying, try Legion there, because this deck really was just all about experimentation. And I don't play much Legion, and I should, because Legion is very strong.
00:41:40
Speaker
um So that's that's a cool thing you can do with Majestic Wingbeat if you picked it up. And ah it's fine there. I still don't think it's a very good card. Probably not as bad as I said it was last week, but not as good as people seem to think it is right now.
00:41:57
Speaker
That's my thought.
00:42:00
Speaker
Yeah, I still think overall it's like it's playable, but I question if it's worth the deck slot. I will say Majestic Wingbeat is featured in a Safety Blade deck, a Chamber Ramp deck, and it's the most fun I've ever had with big cards.
00:42:14
Speaker
Not that I play a ton of big card decks, right? But like, Hell is not super fun. Gunny T, Big Dumb Idiots from like way we way back... Moderately fun. um But you don't get to do very many cute things. This one felt no kind of cute. um I'm not going to read the whole thing off. You can find it in the show notes or video description. But it has six cards of cost five or more and Nick Fury.
00:42:35
Speaker
So, like, your chamber gets huge. oh Things like Majestic Winkbeat hitting a Cosmic Ghost Rider or an Eson early. like Either being able to stop your opponent with Cosmic Ghost Rider before they their engine gets going, or Ison getting even one extra hit. is's like That's pretty high value.
00:42:55
Speaker
It's a super fun deck. I recommend it if you're if you like big card stuff or or want to experiment with big card stuff. I think Majestic Wingbeat is kind of just like, it works, but the deck would be fine without it. We've seen Chamber decks doing just fine over the past month. Yeah.
00:43:12
Speaker
Oh, wow. that That's a card that I was wrong about. i will Me too! I will volunteer that at this point. Yep. Chamber, very real card. Does a cool thing.
00:43:24
Speaker
Still can't really keep up with certain other points output things, but like, gosh, if it doesn't stomp a lot of stuff a lot of the time. Yeah, I think it may actually be my biggest miss now.
00:43:36
Speaker
Maybe you still hope. that Those two are tied. How about that? ah Finally, our super premium season pass card, Dragon of the Moon. None of us rated it very highly. three two On reveal, steal one power from even-costed cards in all hands.
00:43:54
Speaker
I've seen people trying. Yeah, no, I've seen it out there. I saw a for or well i saw an Iron Lad that made it up to 12, mostly from Stark Industries. or know um And I saw a natural Dragon of the Moon that made it up to 3.9.
00:44:19
Speaker
also based primarily off of location stats. I don't think I've seen a Dragon of the Moon get more than... Yeah, I've i've never seen one naturally get above like three... i'm i'm goingnna i can only remember three sixes.
00:44:40
Speaker
I'm going to be generous and assume that I must have seen a three seven, but I'm not sure I did.
00:44:49
Speaker
and else see some huge dragons of the moon I don't know. I was just thinking because Ben reminded me when he said Legion. I was like, oh, that would be good in my um In my Majestic Weenby Agamotto deck, and then you're like, Daphne Court, I'm like, oh, that would be good. then I was looking at like, oh, look at these ones. These means Lockheed will be good in it. And I got real excited to play all these together. And then I'm like, oh, yes, we're talking about Dragon of the Moon. And I was like, oh, Dragon of the Moon does not go.
00:45:23
Speaker
with a lot of these other cards, right? It's kind of an outlier, right? And you're kind of like, that's I'm like, oh, it's not going to play well with the others. And it's like not very good at dodgeball. So like, I was always picked last. So like, you know, i feel free dragon of the moon.
00:45:44
Speaker
I think I saw one hit three nine but i have seen more of them not take a single power out of my hand. Yep. when they whiff. Oh, when they whiff.
00:45:59
Speaker
Silly.
Incorporating Avatar and Event Expectations
00:46:00
Speaker
I've seen people trying to do cute things with, like, Baron Mordo and Sentinel, or a Master Mold, and it's like... mean, how cute... Baron Mordo has a Rian Gonzalez Chibi variant, but, like, how cute is anything you can do with Baron Mordo?
00:46:14
Speaker
yeah yeah why did they try to trick people into paying for this card like they yeah they anyone with like you know a grasp of the English language could have told you that this card is like useless ah oh we gotta get you to watch Avatar The Last Airbender Ben cause I'm like oh every time I see this I think of a character Avatar The Last Airbender okay It's probably just moon related.
00:46:47
Speaker
It's just like, you know, when his girlfriend turns into the moon. and Maybe I've just been thinking about Avatar too much. I really would. I would like to get into Avatar The Last Airbender, but I need buddies. would do a rewatch gladly. Right? It's like they've been advertising the blue aliens.
00:47:10
Speaker
cause i like blue aliens um constantly on TV, but it's reversed for me. Every time they say Avatar, I'm like, The Last Airbender?
00:47:20
Speaker
No! The James Cameron sci-fi franchise. Maybe we talk about ah transitioning to season two of Snap on This and replay Secret Homework with Avatar or something. As much as I love Secret Homework. That's the thing. I still love Secret Homework. oh who knows Who knows? Food for thought.
00:47:40
Speaker
Let us know. It's Ben's trademark secret home. and know we have Some people comment that they love to hear us talk about Avatar. Yeah, we have. I've i've seen those those comments.
00:47:54
Speaker
There is an appetite for it. I don't know how large or how deep. Good taste in television. That's the thing. Everybody loves the... I watched the live action Netflix one, which is supposed to be not very... can't believe you did that.
00:48:09
Speaker
good, but I thought it fine. fine. It's a lot better than the Shyamalan one. i tried, but then, like, and I was like, yeah, it seems alright, but it then it just made me want to rewatch Sealed.
00:48:20
Speaker
It's reanimation. It's like it didn't need it. It doesn't really add anything to it, yeah. um But it is significantly better than the Shyamalan one, so, like, don't there's that. ah Okay.
00:48:33
Speaker
Vibe check on next week's cards. We get both Dragonlord um Limited time event. High voltage overdrive. Five five. On reveal, put a card from your hand here.
00:48:46
Speaker
yeah let's talk about him fast. Do we want Dragon Lore? are you talking about high voltage, which is also fast? Oh, you're just saying high voltage, because you kind of gave a grimace. I'm like, what's fast, though? You what I mean? It's like ill pinch, but it'll just be little I agree with your grimace, Lauren. Your grimace is right on the money.
00:49:04
Speaker
Direct hit. Right? I forgot which one overdrive. overdrive the longer one? Overdrive is going to have a premium season pass. And it also has the like the random effect every game. i forgot about that.
00:49:18
Speaker
I don't think it's been run since Kid Omega. i don't think so either. So it'll be interesting to see, like, do people like this mode? Actually, and all of the bad taste was about Kid Omega? Or...
00:49:33
Speaker
now Some people love overdrive and some people love high voltage. so like Oh, it's too long. i'm like I'm glad modes exist for other people, but ah yeah high voltage and overdrive are my two least favorite ways to play this game.
00:49:45
Speaker
yeah If memory serves, I don't dislike high voltage overdrive any more than regular high voltage, but they're both high voltage and they are not that you don't snap and it's not good.
00:49:57
Speaker
And my decisions don't really matter. too Oh my gosh. I really hope that the the event pass is a good value this time so that I can justify getting it because I do not want to play that much high voltage. I have other things to do. but can you put a price Can you put a price on don't play high voltage?
00:50:17
Speaker
Probably not. I hope they give me some resources for it or they make it so easy to do that I'm like, I guess I'll play a bit of high voltage. You know, you know. It's not like, to I mean, it kind of, it's definitely chore-ish. It's not torture. You know, I don't know. I just don't want to do it. That's all. I have i have other things.
00:50:40
Speaker
a data my strong card I believe I saw a datamine that put a Dragonlord variant in the premium pass, which I think is a great idea. In fact, it may or may not be something that I have suggested to Second Dinner. ah like that's a Why would you pay a super premium pass to get another Hulk variant versus like get people to buy it for a variant for a card they don't have any variants for?
00:51:06
Speaker
Anyway. I just want to say, oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to move on to Linnea. Oh, okay. Just for me about Dragonlord, am excited because I have decided this year, like I said, there's so many other parts of my life I gotta be all serious about, and so this year is gonna be a vibes year for me in Snap. And Dragonlord has such, like, amazing eighty s fantasy vibes. I'm hyped. gonna plan for that.
00:51:36
Speaker
we didn't even talk about the card. I'm excited for this card. I think it looks fun. Um... Scott taught me that Linlea, which we like kind of said right, but the second word is supposed to be one syllable, like L-Y-E-H, which is just not a sound we use in English, so good luck with that.
00:51:52
Speaker
um Anyway, it's Swordmaster, but in Iron Fist form. On reveal, ah tutu on reveal add the Sword of Fuxi to another location. And then Sword of Fuxi being 2-2, ongoing. If Linlea Fire Fist? If Linlea Iron Fist is here, he has plus seven power.
00:52:11
Speaker
i seen I think this is the card I've seen people be the most in like disagreement on. like Some people have them high and some people have them low. and I think it basically comes down to like how practical is it to get them together.
00:52:24
Speaker
i mean i I think it's probably good. I confess, I haven't thought too much about this card. Also, now I'm trying to find ah Scott's explainer for how to pronounce the name.
00:52:36
Speaker
um um i really like this with i don't think you have to be cute with it because 211 is big but i really like it when you're being cute with it like ancient one i think is really cool giving lin leah the ongoing ability that boosts himself like that's a plus 21 power if you get three of those in the same lane um like it yeah And I also, me, I'm mostly excited. I have a really sick fanfey.
00:53:07
Speaker
Well, give me i give me an excuse to play it. so Yeah. I think you one if you self-clog, I think there will be things like fanfey doing this on turn six. You play Linlea and then activate her and you can predict where the sword's going to go because your right lane is full or whatever.
00:53:29
Speaker
There was a patch this week, which of course means we're goingnna talk about new cards that were data
Game Updates and Improvements
00:53:34
Speaker
mined. But there were some notable changes in the patch itself. of Public front facing ones. First of all, we have a better deck selection carousel. And I say about dang time as somebody who keeps my favorite deck in the very last slot. I don't have to swipe 20 things over now. I can just swipe seven rows down because they they're three side by side now.
00:53:58
Speaker
um And you can preview the deck right there. Anything else about that? Huzzah! Yeah, it's a good change. I like to see a QOL change every now and then.
00:54:11
Speaker
That's a lot harder to say than it is to type. Is this also where we should mention that it seems like they've got the beginning of a feature that would give us the ability to have multiple favorite custom cards or multiple custom cards or whatever. They changed the interface for finding your custom cards. Yeah.
00:54:30
Speaker
They seem like they intend to give us more options there. It has not yet come to fruition, but they're still leaving their butt hanging out. So cool.
00:54:42
Speaker
I was really excited about kind of stuff, but I haven't noticed like there were even like more bugs i was trying a different ones soon earlier. like I'm trying to get around with my, my, my show show.
00:54:59
Speaker
ah variant, you know, my chibi dragon. i'm like, no, i'm just trying to get it. And all these like screens come back out. And I'm just,
00:55:10
Speaker
custom card and then I'm like, do I just have to reboot the game? Because I will not sit here and wait for it to, I know they made it faster to go to 100%, but I value my time anyway. So, okay, sorry.
00:55:25
Speaker
I'm just saying, your game and none of us would be frustrated. We'll only do the the sweet voice. uh and then ice man gets his animation changed so now you get to see what he hits just like spider ham more things for me to look away from or immediately forget yep it's a totally mess absolutely yeah it's good it's a good buff be more useful i like it someone who likes to bust out an ice man variant on occasion
00:55:59
Speaker
I've been playing a lot of Iceman in the past couple days. I played a lot on day one and even a fair amount on day two as I was swapping cards in and out of ah my tentative Golden Gauntlet deck. um I was considering Iceman even in there.
00:56:15
Speaker
But, you know, I've come to the conclusion that the information that Iceman gives you is not as good as the information that cards like Spider-Ham or Copycat give you. Because knowing what card is in their hand...
00:56:28
Speaker
is not as good as knowing what card is not going to be in their hand ever at all. And ah knowing what card costs one more is not as good as knowing what card doesn't have its ability. yeah So like this is like the weakest kind of information. It's still good information. It's still a big buff to Iceman.
00:56:47
Speaker
But Iceman fell behind a long time ago. But I would counter that, like, some of the you're you're bypassing the benefits of on reveal versus activate as well beyond just the ability itself. But it's like yeah a copycat just needs to get drawn.
00:57:05
Speaker
It's a lot easier to trigger multiple ice spans, right? Which, like, sometimes get real annoying to people, you know? so I'm just, say I'm not, I don't disagree with you. i just think the on reveal does come with a little added lift. And yeah, and the info is really nice.
00:57:23
Speaker
Especially once you're seeing their whole hand laid out if you're multi-triggering it. I think he'd be great in a limited mode. You'd be picking him. Yeah, can see that. He'd be premium one draft.
00:57:35
Speaker
Yeah. um Okay. And then Sam Wilson got changed. Instead of the shield starting on the board, game start, it appears with an on reveal.
00:57:48
Speaker
ah And apparently he went to 2-3. I'm just noticing that for the first time. Yeah.
00:57:55
Speaker
It is guaranteed that the shield doesn't appear at his location, which is good. That would stink if you had to delay it by a turn. I really don't like this change. Oh, really?
00:58:06
Speaker
Yeah. ah Okay, they said that it was because so too much of his power is on the free card. And I get that. And that's been a problem for many things, right? It used to be a one that couldn't be destroyed, and so like it gave you a free place to put coal. Or like it used to have power, so it could just steal a lane and like Death's Domain or or ah Rickety Bridge or whatever. like So the shield has been the problem all along. Absolutely.
00:58:33
Speaker
I get that they don't want it to be like the main point of this card. like The main point should be playing Sam and moving his shield around. But... I just feel like they accidentally stumbled upon something cool and then they're like, no nah.
00:58:47
Speaker
I was going to go the opposite. it Go ahead, you go first, Finn. I think that the on reveal tossing the shield out there is still cool and it's still very, you know, distinct and unique from other effects that we've seen.
00:59:02
Speaker
um even if you compare it to other two costs that have two bodies, like, uh, Mr. Sinister or Rhino, like I feel like Sam Wilson is still very clearly doing his own distinct and generally better thing, you know, like, and the, the movement, uh,
00:59:20
Speaker
I mean, like also now they can live in the same lane for Aurora. Um, cause like the shields ongoing and Sam is on reveal, right? Sam is also ongoing. Oh, Sam is now a two keyword kid.
00:59:33
Speaker
Yep. So he's still got the ongoing that lets him move it, but the on reveal places it now. OK, I don't have the card in front of me, which sometimes is an Aurora buff, right? Like when you do get Sam out, they will sometimes be. But but like now there's also the one would you generate two shields?
00:59:52
Speaker
Yep. I did a clip the other day where I had him generate ah four shields and then I had Spectrum blast them a bunch of times. I like it. That's very cute. It's very cool.
01:00:05
Speaker
It's way cuter than anything with Baron Mordo. yeah I'm going to make a Baron Mordo clip next. That's it
01:00:15
Speaker
it. it. I can't even think about what that would be. I'm thinking about what that would be and I just don't know if there's anything there. I don't think so. Did you get your thoughts out?
01:00:28
Speaker
i feel I'm completely unoffended by this change and I kind of like it if if I had to, you know, say one way or the other. I think it's good. yeah I think he's probably still playable.
01:00:40
Speaker
Oh, definitely. I was just going to agree. I liked this change because I do think they kept like when actually when I think about how I use it, like. It's still pretty good for me because like a lot of times it's like you want something to guarantee you can move, you know, like things like Miles or they Prowler or something. And you can still do that because without him out there and that thing not moving, sometimes it's just dead weight. So there are decks where this could maybe even make it a little better. I get overall it's a bit of nerf because it's so strong to have a card out at the beginning.
01:01:19
Speaker
But, um yeah, i I think they kept the spirit of it. um And they may, you know, and it's like, you know, I don't think that Captain of America is ever about the shield, you know, about the man behind it. So I'm glad that that's where the focus is.
01:01:40
Speaker
don't think it was ah actually this is part of the problem is that it wasn't always dead weight right like i was using it as a valkyrie target and to discount mockingbird and a lot of people are using it to protect things from red guardian yeah um or can deafening cord hit a zero is it just below four or is it still use it but i think it's not one to three it's it's three or less right okay One of the really cute things love doing with the shield running it around to give things Elsa buffs, you know, without filling my board. You know, you can still, that was all stuff that you needed to move the shield for. And I think this puts the emphasis back on actually moving the shield just versus like, like, it's because, you know, stationary, it's not cool. It's cool when he's like, know, flipping it around. No, it is weird that it's just sitting around there.
01:02:34
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I see why they did it, and it probably is better, like, aesthetically. um i mean, it is Sam's shield. It's not, like... You know, he didn't just, like, wander by, you know? i think it's I think it's the same shield as... ah What's his face? Previous Ket in America. No, of course it is. But, like, Sam has it because his right now, know? Yeah, I couldn't find the team answer, but I swear before Glenn has said something about, like, the story of it is that Sam picks up the mantle.
01:03:03
Speaker
And you could still argue it's like that now, but he's not coming upon the shield now. He's generating it in the first place. um Anyway... I'm fine with the change, but it makes it seem like he threw it. Like Captain America does. Yes, it does do this drawing animals out onto the I think that's cool and flavorful. That's my i think my point is I would like to see a different cart made that starts on the board.
01:03:26
Speaker
I think that that's ah that's a cool thing. And Makkari kind of does it, but like what if we just had one that started on the on the board for free? Even if it's a 0-0 that doesn't do anything else. um I think they don't.
01:03:40
Speaker
gotta play more Makkari, to be honest. she's Not if it's just a 0-0 that doesn't do anything else. I don't think it's worth a deck slot. Yeah, it's probably not. They would make it do something, and i don't I don't think they would want to do that. I think they've decided against that as a healthy, good thing. um i I don't think that's necessarily true. Part of it is that they wanted Sam to be about throwing the shield. So what if they make a card that is about some other interaction on the board? Like it it merges with the card that that it spawns at the beginning or something. like i don't know. If they designed around that being the point of the card as it starts with a token on the board, i think that'd be fine.
01:04:19
Speaker
Anyway, ah onto our data mines. This is for an apocalypse, ancient Egypt type season. Actually, I don't know how ancient it is because his horsemen include Juggernaut and Gambit, who I don't think are ancient.
01:04:33
Speaker
um Okay, and there's a new keyword.
Introduction of New Keywords and Card Interactions
01:04:39
Speaker
objective which is uh what the the in-game text for it currently says an objective completes after the turn if in play with its condition met so i read it as a one-time end of turn ability yeah
01:04:57
Speaker
That's how I would do. Also, it's worth noting ah there are mechanics like this in both Magic the Gathering and Hearthstone. I congratulate Marvel Snap on not calling this one a quest.
01:05:10
Speaker
and um Right. Same thing mechanically. Reid, do you want to do our first one, our premium season pass? Sure. Apologies in advance for pronunciations.
01:05:22
Speaker
ah And it's four across and five power in and instance then the premium ah season pass with the objective, have a full front row at each location um and then it will transform into Apocalypse, Celestial's Chosen.
01:05:46
Speaker
And ah in Apocalypse, Celestial Chosen is a 4 cost 7 power ah with the ability on reveal. Swap the lowest power card in your front row at any location with a card from your deck.
01:06:08
Speaker
Okay, so like a built-in blank. What I have to say that I like about Objective is it's like, okay, everyone can tap on it and read it. It's not like a surprise card you got to keep in your head at times. You know, so if you're going to add complexity, or at least it's all like out there.
01:06:27
Speaker
Some of them are possible that you complete the objective the turn that it comes out. That you play it. That's true. What I think would be cool to do with this is fill most of the front row, then play En Sabanur, and then Absorbing Man, the on reveal that you get next turn.
01:06:52
Speaker
Mm-hmm. so And Sabonur is the card that finishes the front row in this scenario? Yep. And then next turn, it's it's transformed into an on-reveal card, but the game still remembers that it was your last card played. So you can absorb a mana. Or if you play it on the side, you can grandmaster it. you know like There are options. Because you'll still have a... Well, I guess it doesn't care if you have a full front a fullfront row anymore once it's transformed.
01:07:17
Speaker
I don't think this sounds very strong. You compared it to Blink, but it's more like Lockjaw. There's no guarantee it's going to pull out something better. And that's the thing. If you repeat this, there's a chance you get your low power card back because, yeah, it doesn't. ah This reminds me of another Magic the Gathering thing, Rebels and Mercenaries. In the Mercadian Masks block, they had ah two creature types.
01:07:40
Speaker
One was ah Rebels, and they were little white creatures that sought out, they they would tutor out from your deck larger Rebels. And then they had the evil ones, the black one, mercenaries. And mercenaries would tutor out smaller mercenaries.
01:07:59
Speaker
And rebels were so much better than mercenaries. It was wild. Rebels was like the best deck. And mercenaries was not a deck. Because pulling out smaller things is not good.
01:08:11
Speaker
Pulling out bigger things is good. We're going somewhere. Onward and upward. So yeah, i'm I'm not sure about this card. I kind of think it's a little... At first when I read it, I only read the transformed version and i was like, well, this card's nuts. A 4-7 on reveal? like But that's not what it is.
01:08:33
Speaker
It is easy to fulfill, though. I will give it that. it is like Yeah, it's it's not hard to fulfill, but that that difference is... it It would be a good card if it were just the final version, I think.
01:08:47
Speaker
It needs more stats or a lower cost or something. I'm not sure what it means. It just doesn't feel like splashy enough. um Didn't we have four-cost Lockjaw? People who were not playing that, even though I understand this could be used afterwards. It wasn't four-seven.
01:09:02
Speaker
yeah um okay Ben, super premium. Iska, the Unbeaten. That's a three-cost, two-power character.
01:09:14
Speaker
End of turn. If you're losing this location, double this card's power. that's definitely an interesting design. and It's a cool minigame.
01:09:26
Speaker
have not been thinking about it long enough to say for sure if it's strong or not. I mean, like, the potential is definitely... that Like, I don't think this card can be...
01:09:42
Speaker
I think this card's got to be at least all right. That's that's what I think. And possibly more than all right. But I do think that like maybe some of the specifics of wrangling it, maybe it is tougher than one might think at first, but also maybe it's not as tough. I don't know. I don't know. I have to think about this card longer, but I'm definitely intrigued. What do you guys think?
01:10:05
Speaker
I like it. It feels like a real-ass card to me. We see these cards where just feels like kind of a random... Joining of statistics and this feels like a thematic card and it feels like and it's doing an actual thing. so it's like for me, I didn't even look at like, well, how will the numbers add up and stuff? I'm like, it it could feel fun and maybe the numbers will have to be tweaked. But I'm just like, I'm excited to see like this. This feels like a like something fun to mess with to think about.
01:10:38
Speaker
I think she comes with a bunch of interesting interactions, right? Like what if you put her on a lane with say Adam Warlock or your Galactus first steps, Harold, or a Nebula, like, are they going to go for that lane? Are they going to leave it losing or, or, or, you know, have it winning because they get ah you know, you get something out of it either way. Or like, are you going to throw the void onto this or the hood onto this and then deal with them later? Yeah.
01:11:02
Speaker
um Very good with first steps, right? Like, to help you keep winning that lane, maybe. this is This is an end of turn that you would not hate. Oh, with Invisible Woman?
01:11:13
Speaker
Yeah. No, it's the Galactus first steps. Like, to help you keep winning that lane. Oh, that's good. I like that. you're saying? So you put it in that lane, and then maybe they win, but now you're losing it. So now you win, so you do get your Galactus. Yeah, I think that does work. I think Galactus is always the last. Like, your hand goes,
01:11:33
Speaker
after the things that are on the board. so I think that would work. Yeah. um It's also cute, right? she's ah Scott told me her mutant ability is she can't lose. And in the comics, sometimes that means she just switches sides. Sometimes that means she just switches sides. But, thematically, with this card, like...
01:11:51
Speaker
like Yeah, she's not, which is kind of surprising. Like if that's what, if that's what she's known for, maybe she should be a switching sides character. But still, this is like, can't lose. She gets stronger every time she's losing. It's a, it's a very cute design.
01:12:03
Speaker
um Also, obviously like stuff with like merge is, ah is great. You get to double the power of your merges. And Invisible Woman First Steps, like, if you get multiple procs off, this card's just going to win her lane.
01:12:16
Speaker
um Still not crazy about more, more, more, more doubling all the time. ah maybe Maybe just some incremental power increases. Imagine. ah Put it with, like, Human Torch First Steps. I kind of like Human Torch First Steps, to be honest, because I'm just a sucker for buffs. I like how many he is.
01:12:37
Speaker
i Just put a bunch of doubling cards all together in a lane just for funsies. That's the kind of vibes I'm into this year for Snap. Okay. Next up, Juggernaut, Horseman of War. He's a tu two another objective card. If you have seven different powers among your other cards in play, then he gets six power. he ends up as a 2-8. 2-8 is good.
01:13:05
Speaker
His objective seems kind of tough. Seven different powers among your other cards. Among your other cards. So it doesn't count him. I want to put it with Ms. Marvel just to like make everything super hard. Other costs, other powers.
01:13:22
Speaker
But also here's what I don't like about it with the objective. It's not it's not something you can double or you can add to with Spectrum, right? So it's like, that makes it feel rough where it's like a lot of cards you're trying to like double up on their effect or something. But maybe the two eight's enough with other stuff you're doing? I don't know. You also have to think about like how Activate, it took a while to get, or like Entiturn took a while to get Invisible Woman. Activate took a while to get Jocasta. Like eventually there could be objective support cards. Mm-hmm. And like we equated it to being an end of turn that happens once, but like I'm sure it doesn't, you know, play with, the you know, the invisible woman first steps. Right. Yeah. It's a different keyword. Yeah. It's it's got to be.
01:14:09
Speaker
It's not explicitly clear that the objective won't keep happening, but I would be surprised if it does. I think it's... I would be more than surprised. I would uninstall. I don't know about that. I mean, the next part would be... There's no way it's like that. So, yeah, I don't think a 2.8 is anything.
01:14:33
Speaker
That's true. We've been ah actually hard on on to some twos lately. okay What's the one? There's like a 2.9. Wildchild is decent. Wildchild is much better than this.
01:14:44
Speaker
Yeah. Wildchild can double the Wildchild thing. Wildchild can't be Shadow Kinged. Wildchild is good at Wildchild's job. Wildchild could be a 2.5 if you only kind of do the thing. Wildchild is a team song built in. There's 2.5 halfway stop here.
01:15:04
Speaker
Alright, uh, Ri with Gambit. Oh, uh, it's me! Gambit, Horseman of Death. Uh, three costs, four power, a series five card, with objective!
01:15:20
Speaker
Play six total costs of created cards. Um, like randomly destroys up to four total costs of enemy cards. ah People hate Gambit, so... They're probably going to hate even more Gambit. ah With a Merlin, and there's so many ways to create a bunch of cheapy cards, I mean, it feels like it's it's not going to be that hard to hit the objective, and ah people will hate getting their cards randomly destroyed. That's what I think. And also, you can't, like, Cosmo this, because...
01:16:00
Speaker
You know, not a non-reveal. So I've got a question. um We've got uppercase cost here. So how does Gambit feel about Esme Cuckoo created cards?
01:16:17
Speaker
Bastion created cards? Like, are are those two costs or are those whatever they actually are? the capital C cost. I think Valentina would single-handedly resolve this. But like sometimes I think they use the wrong one. Have they been inconsistent sometimes? with November in November, the Spider-Verse season, they switched every single one of them.
01:16:39
Speaker
Yeah. So like, I don't know what they actually mean because I don't trust them to like yup follow of their own rules.
01:16:47
Speaker
So I don't know. think it I think it's important to remember. Yeah. The like squirrel girl doesn't do it because you're not playing those. Those are just showing up. Like I think these actually have to be cards that you stage and play. So squirrel girl doesn't do it.
01:17:02
Speaker
Mr. Sinister doesn't do it. Brood doesn't do
Gameplay Strategies and Card Critiques
01:17:04
Speaker
it. You need to be doing arrows. You need to be maybe probably. You play all three Mysterios. I've asked you on Mysterio. You know about because like Mysterio counts for like Sasquatch and stuff.
01:17:16
Speaker
So like, yeah, Mysterio, but um yeah, so I think arrows, Mysterio, Merlin spells, Prowler spells. All right. What about the ability ah destroying up to four?
01:17:30
Speaker
I think it's annoying as hell. I don't like this card.
01:17:35
Speaker
and And it's random, so I don't even think it's fun to play. About what? About destroying four. You got that? Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, right? It's just people hate it. It's going to be nasty. Like, whether it takes out a single four or takes out multiple chief cards. yeah Unpredictable for both the player and the opponent.
01:18:02
Speaker
All right. in Sandstorm. A two-cost freestanding skill. Much like Fastball Special. I think those are the only two. Um...
01:18:14
Speaker
so far. Yikes. Anywho, what does it do? Something more exciting, more interesting, a little sillier. It costs two, and it's on reveal is add two rocks to your hand, give them plus one power for each of your front row characters. So you might be dealing with, it's it's very Mole Man, right?
01:18:36
Speaker
Like, oh, you get two, you get two one six rocks. You're gonna win now. No, you're not. This card is nothing. I think this card is better than the season pass card.
01:18:48
Speaker
I mean, yeah, and i mean, i do I do like that we're getting more Rock support ah later on in the season, ah but we'll get to that when we get to it. But I don't think that the support that Rocks are receiving later in this preview, um don't think that's enough to make this a good card. I think this card is a stinker.
01:19:07
Speaker
Oh, really? Although, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, these are created cards for Gambit, so that's something in their favor. ah instead of comparing it to Mole Man, compare it to the Hood, is a very good card. The Hood is a good card because you, well, there are a lot of reasons the Hood is a good card.
01:19:30
Speaker
I don't. but People do like hood misery stuff, right? Like, i think this is a much more practical way to get two big one costs. When are you playing these? Like, you're filling you're filling the entire front row, and then you're on revealing to add two rocks to your hand, and then you've got to play the rocks. It's true. This is like four. The pace is four. This is four energy to get 12 power on the board, and that sounds fine, but it's not.
01:19:58
Speaker
How much are you holding back your one cost to save them from the Killmonger anyway? Or because you wanted to even double them up with a moon girl or something? You know what I mean? i play a lot of demons on the last turn.
01:20:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. ah We should also, I just wanted to shout out the original good egg, Wombat Comics. We are both excited about getting, you know, more support for a dream our, you know, you get a rock, you get a ra everyone rock. a rock. Rocks. It's all about the rocks.
01:20:35
Speaker
Yeah, you're definitely going to be able to make a Brock deck up in the air if it's worth it. I thought you were going to shout out Darude. ka but but but but hey Thank you. Caliban, Horseman of Pestilence, a three four with the objective have three cards that are four cost or higher in play.
01:20:59
Speaker
Afflict the highest cost enemy card with minus seven power. It's a cheaper Omega Sentinel if you do the thing.
01:21:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I guess it matches with Omega Sentinel, but it feels so like mispaired. Like what does having four costs or higher have to do with like ah an affliction like that?
01:21:22
Speaker
I don't know who Caliban is. I know he's a Morlock, right? You don't know who Caliban He's is Shakespeare. ah Well, Caliban has been one of the Morlocks. Caliban was in Logan.
01:21:38
Speaker
ah I want to say really Stephen Merchant. Was that who played the Morlocks?
01:21:45
Speaker
it's It's funky that out of all the horsemen, including there are four horsemen that were datamined for the following month, out of all eight horsemen, Caliban is the only one we don't already have a card for in the game.
01:21:58
Speaker
Like we get horsemen Caliban before regular Caliban. Yeah. Just like, please insert complaint here about the characters who are not yet in the game.
01:22:09
Speaker
its Right. Imagine getting like rat something something first steps before we got the actual version of it or yeah zombie something before we got the actual version. That sort of happened with Giant Man, but like...
01:22:24
Speaker
But isn't... Giant Man and Ant-Man are the same character, right? Like, isn't Giant Man Hank Pinn? Many of the same people have had both mantles. There's been multiple Ant-Mans. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's comics. We could get into ten minutes of who Ant-Man is.
01:22:38
Speaker
Right. Um...
01:22:42
Speaker
Anyway, I think this card seems good if if you're building a deck that is doing the ramp style. like You're not playing a ton of cards. You're playing expensive cards. Maybe. I mean, four costs are higher is not that big an ask. And like just to get three of them onto the board, I think this card is a lot... I mean, like it kind of makes Omega Sentinel look... like Omega Sentinel's saving grace is activate synergies like you can Jocasta. Yeah, and they like go together. Yeah.
01:23:12
Speaker
But like, I think this is just a stronger card in a vacuum. i it great it was baoo And you can play it on the last turn and just do, you know? Oh, yeah.
01:23:24
Speaker
You don't have to. thinking anymore Caliban doesn't have to see the cards get played the way that Gambit does. Or I would assume that Gambit does. Maybe Gambit doesn't need to see the cards get played.
01:23:36
Speaker
Actually, Gambit probably doesn't need to see the cards get played. Okay, so I don't know. Okay. Although, I don't know. Some of these are have and some of these are play. Who knows?
Preview of New Cards and Their Impact
01:23:46
Speaker
We'll find out.
01:23:47
Speaker
Caliban, you can single-handedly prop with Doom. And there's other stuff like that. Doom 2099. Or a White Tiger. if There's other things that can help you do that faster. Okay.
01:24:00
Speaker
Rhi? Yeah, good point. Okay. ah We Selene, Horseman of Famine. Four cost, three power. a Series five card. Objective.
01:24:13
Speaker
Have three cards with no abilities in play. We'll give you steal five power from an enemy card here. I like this because I like it's something new and different to play with.
01:24:29
Speaker
Right. A different benefit to having car because it's like they're like Patriot is a. It hasn't been around in a while. And um mostly when you're actually playing any cards... And I get this will still be probably more like Brood and other... And like Demon and that kind of stuff. But High Evo just took it, you know, like all like Wasp and all that. That's the reason you play the no-ability cards. And that's just a new dimension to it. So that's where I'm looking at it. And it feels...
01:25:04
Speaker
um i guess it doesn't feel more related um than the others more thematic but uh yeah new angle sir man it uh i think it goes in your rock deck it doesn't see rocks but i think it's a rock card well my connection to the rock deck is that If the 412 of Sandstorm, of the maybe 412 of Sandstorm, if that feels good enough to be played in a deck, then sure, you probably also feel like the 413 of Selene is good enough to play in the same deck. I would not play either of these cards. I don't think they are designed for 2026.
01:25:46
Speaker
ah You and your server standards. No, you're probably right. Ozymandias. Ben? Ozymandias, 510 from a limited time game mode, it seems. A series four. Ongoing, your rocks have plus three power. I love it.
01:26:04
Speaker
See, this is good. This is beautiful and exciting. And it's matt it's very cool. i I like lords, you know. the little leaders of their creature type or whatever. Uh, they're great fun.
01:26:18
Speaker
um yes, yes, please. I, I like that there is a payoff card for the, the rocks that have been sprinkled through the game's history. Oh, I mean, i gotta try it, right? Like as, as much as I was dumping on sandstorm, I don't think it's like great, but like maybe with those mandias, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe maybe And Rhino, I always want an excuse to play Rhino.
01:26:45
Speaker
Debris 3-7 now with two rocks. What cool card. And I won't have to pay, like, it's not 6,000 tokens. So it's not even tokens, probably.
01:26:57
Speaker
So I just get to enjoy this card without guilt. They should make the fun cards be the LPGM cards. Absolutely. The ones that like you want to play with, but you don't necessarily want to pay for. Yeah, it could be. How many rocks do you need to have in play for this card to be good? Because 510 is a beastly stat line.
01:27:18
Speaker
Like 510 is, whoa. Right? and If we're adding three to it. For each rock, like three rocks, that's a 519 you played.
01:27:29
Speaker
ah If you got a collapsed mine, you can just leave that. No, you can't. You probably need you probably need like an onslaught on your Rosumandius to really win a collapsed mine lane because 12 doesn't win much unless things are going really badly.
01:27:47
Speaker
I don't know. i want i want to believe in this guy. i At this point, it's so far in the future that it doesn't matter if I believe or not. I'm just excited.
01:27:59
Speaker
OK, I was going to say, yes, think about that and think about with that onslaught. You have a patriot. You know what i mean? o yeah go that's That's feeling real. right Rocks are so cheap. I think this will be big because when people play it, right, it's plus three power.
01:28:16
Speaker
It's an ongoing, which is an easy thing to double up. Right? Ancient one. All kinds of debris shenanigans to be had. So I'm very excited ah to be turn six roguing a lot of these Asmundius to make my own rock empire the stronger. ah Yeah, this makes it fun. Right. We know the plus three is good, right? you Doubling it up also pairs with Patriot. You do have to have enough. I found because i've i've I've already built Patriot rock shenanigans. And what I've learned is it's like, yeah, you do have to balance beefing the rocks with generating and playing the rocks.
01:28:57
Speaker
But, you know, rocks are kind of cheap. And there's like moments. There's all kinds of there's all kind of rock stuff out there now. It's fun. and It's very much like Marvel Snap culture, right? Like that rocks aren't an inherently Marvel thing, but they are a Marvel Snap thing.
01:29:11
Speaker
Ben Broda is like, I will make the rock location good. You will want five rocks in your new. Subterranea's synergy. Okay, and here's the last one of the season.
01:29:24
Speaker
Rama Tut, Kang variant, 4-5.
01:29:29
Speaker
On reveal, use three on reveals from cards released before Rama Tut's time. And actually, if you go to the snap.fan on there ah the patch page for this patch, at the very bottom, they have an image that is a hard-coded list of abilities he can pull.
01:29:46
Speaker
And for my co-hosts, I have added a list of things that he cannot copy. And I think there's a lot of things in there that are like, OK, clearly, they're curating this list. So like you can't hit things like most of the destroy cards, most of the discard cards, Mr. Negative. like There's a bunch of stuff in here that they're like, that's not fun if he does that.
01:30:05
Speaker
ah Some of the bad hits too, like matt yeah Maximus or Toxidoxy or Valkyrie, like things that you're are Ultron, things you're going to mess yourself up with, they're like, you're not even going to have that chance. On the other hand, MODOK is on his list. So they have a few in there so that they can be like, that right away um ah Interesting.
01:30:26
Speaker
Granted, this card comes out at the end of March. It might change a little bit. I think it's a super fun idea, right? Doing three different on-reveals. Most of these are pretty good on-reveals.
01:30:37
Speaker
oh no Yeah, it's interesting that they knew that Dragon of the Moon isn't worth copying. why Why did they know that? This card, but they didn't they released it anyway? it To be fair, they don't have Majestic Wing or Sholao on here either, so they might not have updated it for January and February cards.
01:30:54
Speaker
I see. It doesn't have Dragon Lord on it either. Yeah, and i don't I actually don't even know if it has any of the November-December cards either. um Oh, it has Deafening Chords, so it has November. Anyway, um seems like a good card to me. i don't love that he's locked to being on reveals from before Ramatat's time.
01:31:18
Speaker
That feels a little like... If you can't support this card in an ongoing way, maybe you shouldn't make it i think Am I being unfair? laborrful is but like I like it's flavor text.
01:31:32
Speaker
and I agree. I thought it was literally before his release time. I'm like, oh, that's kind of a fun little meta. like But then when you said they curated the list, I feel like this is just the way to be like, we curated the list. This is when we've just what we've decided it is before his time.
01:31:49
Speaker
Why wouldn't it just be three on use three on reveals from other cards? Why wouldn't it be like that? I don't know because they don't make sense all the time. They're trying to be like this is the Kang variant that's in ancient Egypt. I think that's what they're trying to gesture at although it's a little bit incomprehensible. I feel like I'm meeting them more than halfway by making that link there. You know what I mean?
01:32:17
Speaker
Do you think cards that come out after him, he'll still be able to pull some of those abilities? No, no. I think they're being like, yeah they're trying to nod to the comics. I just think the fact that he's related to time sense. Yeah. And, and he's like, he's the way back when Kang.
01:32:33
Speaker
I think that they are just trying to save themselves from making a card they have to support with every other card that comes out. Oh, no, I think it's both. I think they're they're trying to yeah kill two birds with one stone. It's just that, like, neither bird kill was right.
01:32:50
Speaker
I don't know. i'm I'm a little... but I guess I can congratulate them on establishing like a solid like Kang theme. Kangs use other cards' abilities. like you know Oh. like they' the They do... Which isn't the thing that Kang does. That part is coherent. Specifically released before Rama Tut's time, maybe that makes more sense if you know more about the character than I do, but just from what I know about the character, it doesn't...
01:33:21
Speaker
There's something about it that like doesn't quite add up. It's like they they forgot to carry the one or something. I don't know. Yeah, it's just goofy.
01:33:33
Speaker
Do you think it's playable or is it just a shenanigans card? I mean, these are good on reveal, some of them. But I don't like it. and i just I like cards that do a thing well that I can count on to do a thing.
01:33:48
Speaker
Okay, but think of the chaos you could have with Zabu and Wang in a deck with this, and you just... No, for real. got, like, Zolas going everywhere or whatever. I didn't even see Zola on the list.
01:34:01
Speaker
Zola's there. In a brute force, kind of, Mershem kind of way, where, like, it sort of doesn't matter, and you're just, like... There's enough good stuff. That's chaos. You're just getting a good enough deal that it's, like, worth saying YOLO.
01:34:14
Speaker
i don't know I feel like sometimes you sign in to snap and you're like, I choose violence today. Yeah. I i like that there are some bad-ish hits in there.
01:34:28
Speaker
Some of them are double-sided. I think Modok is... think Modok probably needs to be cut from the list. It's big risk. I don't think they're release it copying Modok.
01:34:38
Speaker
Yeah, that's big. You're going think better of it. Okay, but what if it's a heavy carrier deck? eats your hand. revive helicarrier for the one chance to discard it i think modok's the only discard card in this list um yeah yeah he's super fun design i don't mean to only shit on them like i think this is a super fun looking card i will gladly play it i agree that putting him on a wong stack sounds really fun
01:35:09
Speaker
ah It's so hard to keep it in your head, though, to be like, this could be Legion, so I should think about that when I'm playing. like That's going to be like... I think for me, it's going to be too much. Either I'll play it enough that I'll learn my lesson from playing it enough, or it'll just be one of those like chaos cards. Oh, if you play it on the Wong Lane and you get Viper, that's so silly.
01:35:31
Speaker
You still get your honor reveals, but yeah. Yeah, but your opponent gets all the whatever else you had in your Wongs. But then like, oh, because it might be that, I should play it on a lane that they're mostly full on. It's like so much to then think about when you have cards that can do random effects like that. I wonder if you play them on the last turn. It'd be rough if you're not prepared to launder an Electro.
01:35:55
Speaker
He doesn't take Oh, he doesn't have the ongoing. He only has the on reveal. Oh, so it's all upside. Yeah, he doesn't keep their text. And all of the cards that copy text, like Mystique and Absman, they're on the ban list.
01:36:06
Speaker
so Dr. Octopus, that could be rough. yeah Agent Coulson might be a Jawa if it copies Agent Coulson.
01:36:19
Speaker
Yeah. Huh. Oh, Moon Knight's on here. There's another discard card, Reeve. Okay. Destroyer's on here. Destroyer is another one that like I don't think that this card's going to get played if it stays on the list. Yeah, but don't think it ships that way. Okay. Punishing.
Tech Card Design Challenge
01:36:38
Speaker
I was almost going to say, what if you just saved him for the last turn so that stuff like Blob and MODOK don't hurt you, but the last turn, Destroyer, is devastating. Okay. On to our...
01:36:50
Speaker
Oh, do I talk about which one you're most excited for? No, that's one we're ranking. Okay. Yeah. Onto our side quest first up and only this week secret homework. I assigned the secret homework and it was to design a tech card.
01:37:04
Speaker
Uh, I didn't, I have to admit, I didn't think a ton about this. I didn't explore like what would be a fun tech card. Instead. I thought about what is the tech card for Lauren? Lauren? I don't think I would play this, but I have to admit my least favorite archetype in the entire game to play against because of the way I play the game is scream.
01:37:22
Speaker
If I once I'm in infinite scream and kingpin hit the board, i retreat instantly. I'm not even going to play that game because, quite honestly, it's not fun. I want to play cards my way, not where you move them to.
01:37:34
Speaker
ah So I have created paste Pot Pete. Whose name has been changed to Trapster, but that name is so much worse. us yeah So he's Pace Pot Pete. That's I've Decided by Lauren Fiat. That's his name when he's a snap card. 2-2. Ongoing. Your cards can't be moved by your opponent's cards.
01:37:56
Speaker
Look at that. He doesn't even stop you from doing it yourself.
01:38:01
Speaker
But he's going to spray sticky conditional glue thematically. Maybe it doesn't make sense that you still move. Maybe it makes more sense if your opponent's cards can't move, but yours can. did that Did I read the card wrong?
01:38:13
Speaker
No, no, no. I am not letting you play your scream cards. You can't use Polaris or Spider-Man or Stegron. My cards are staying put unless I want to move them myself. It doesn't feel too strong either, though, because it's not like they can't move their own cards. So, i you know, it's like I feel like it's very reasonable.
01:38:33
Speaker
It's really just a scream hate card that also makes me vulnerable to cannonball. You know, i could I make a small suggestion or or maybe just leave raise an idea? Yes.
01:38:46
Speaker
Do you think maybe it would like feel very flavorful and good if Paste Pot Pete also secured your cards against things like the Great Web? Or a Spider Island. Oh, okay.
01:38:57
Speaker
Yes. I didn't think about... wow So they won't get bifrosted into Fisk Tower or whatever. i originally thought of your cards can't be moved. And maybe that is actually cool, because then you can start introducing some synergies. I'm not sure what those synergies would be. Like, why would you Heimdall if you can't move your cards? But...
01:39:19
Speaker
Well, you know, you could play a Zorn somewhere and then ah only your opponent hurts. Yeah. I like that. Okay. I would be okay with that.
01:39:32
Speaker
I actually think preventing it against locations is a good idea. Whether or not you completely stop movement. Okay. Ben, because Rhea is signing next week.
01:39:44
Speaker
All right. I, you know, last week, Lauren, you didn't remember if you designed this homework before. And I don't remember if I've designed a card for this character before. I think it's possible because I i do have a fascination. But the character I designed a card for...
01:40:02
Speaker
is the vanisher. Uh, just one of the X-Men's very first foes still pops up from time to time. I think there's been a costume redesign, but I don't care for it. That had better not be the, the one that's on the base art. Uh, I want the one where he's got a big,
01:40:21
Speaker
weird scaly puffy headpiece thing that like makes his head look like a rounded or a rounded pointed like triangle shape i i don't know it's such a goofy costume google it if you if you don't know it's really good i really appreciate doing the visual he's great i i uh he makes me want corn on the cob so bad Okay, but what does he do? does he do? Yeah, he does have some corn on the cob energy. I was like, no, no. What a look. What a look. Okay, but... I found that's a really easy side to make in the microwave. You can just microwave it in leaf, and it's just that great side to the Anyway, I'm kind of hungry.
01:41:06
Speaker
Okay, but the Vanisher. well We'll get this done and we can all eat. The Vanisher is a and our very first activate slash ongoing. That's right. This is an Aurora friend.
01:41:19
Speaker
The Vanisher activate. You know, maybe I should maybe I should maybe I should order them ongoing and then activate. I don't know. Maybe it seems confusing to have activate. I like ongoings to be last.
01:41:33
Speaker
Okay. I like it. Yeah. Here's how we're templating it today. Activate. Banish all discarded cards and move the vanisher to another location.
01:41:46
Speaker
Because the Vanisher teleports and stuff. That's really the Vanisher's power. Not becoming invisible as Deadpool 2 made it seem like the Vanisher's power was. um Anyway. um And then the ongoing effect is cards cannot be discarded. Dang, that's a hate card.
01:42:05
Speaker
Yes. Also, a hate card that just sort of randomly moves once. Yeah, why not? This is way too powerful, Ben. You don't get to think of Vanisher moves.
01:42:16
Speaker
Is it? Probably. For two power, where you get to completely take down the discard deck and it has a bonus activate. Like, come on now. Do you guys remember Tokyo 2099? it yeah It was a marble snap location that made it cards can't be discarded. And they banned it so fast. And for two power, you're like, that's not even all you get. Like, this business is not profitable enough, Ben. You're giving away too much.
01:42:46
Speaker
His stats are so bad. And also, you um like you have to activate him to banish all the previously discarded cards. Oh no, but you can play them early enough that they just can't discard anything unless they get their blade on turn one. Yeah, but this card would never be worth the deck slot. Never. Like, I don't think. It feels like Ghost.
01:43:10
Speaker
I don't know. On the edge of playability. So yes, you could buff it with Spectrum and you could double buff it with Aurora. This is way better than Ghost. Right? Yeah, but that's damnation by fame. Praise better than ghost should be like ghost it's like the worst part of the game. way better Doesn't ghost only affect one lane? I don't even remember. I never look at her. i'm like Same with armor. You do historically struggle with remembering ghost.
01:43:38
Speaker
Um,
01:43:40
Speaker
But like, I think it's cool that he like he moves a little bit. And I just like he seems like I would almost play him sometimes. And you can. i do like a tech card that you can get some proactive use out of.
01:43:54
Speaker
It didn't turn out to be important for Stardust, but like I do think it's cool when it works out. ah So like, hey, maybe maybe you want to play first Ghost Rider with this guy.
01:44:05
Speaker
And just don't worry about it. You know, just play first ghost rider is a two seven. I don't think it's good enough, but like, isn't it cute? Wouldn't that be cute? Uh, Hey, you can play, you can play Ramatat safely without worrying about MODOK. Fucking your shit up. It's a, it's a C seven where you play first ghost rider and sword master. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, Lauren, that's, that is, that is resourceful. I'm, I'm very impressed.
01:44:31
Speaker
Uh, I'm trying to think what else would be cool. I, I also think that, uh, just in case you're wondering how this like works with rules things, I imagine that it means that things like Gambit just wouldn't destroy because you need to pay the cost to be the boss.
01:44:45
Speaker
Um, and yeah, I, I just, do you hate playing against discard? No, not really. okay and i was just thinking like what would be like a fun thing to tech. And there's no like specific discard hate card, you know?
01:45:00
Speaker
mean, there was a specific discard hate location, but I've already memory holed it. So, I don't know. Stardust stops Approxima Dust. and I'm mixing up things. Stardust stops Approxima Minda. And Hela and Dix Rider. Specifically, like, a discard hate card.
01:45:21
Speaker
I agree. i'm just saying there are like tech cards that affect it. I could see this existing as just the activate. I could see that being a real card. Yeah, but it's more interesting if it has an activate. But there's no hate cards against an entire deck. They affect a lane. Armor affects one lane. You know what I mean? Loot cage. Loot cage. Okay, yeah, loot. But like... I mean...
01:45:46
Speaker
Mostly. mostly't like li so much I like this I can imagine a world where somebody might want to pack some insurance you know think Luke Cage is too good for what it's worth for real though you like if you're you have to look up this dude's costume he looks exactly like corn on the cob with like the husk the designer was clearly like just like looked around you know it's like what I had for dinner tonight is what the van is going to look like it's so good okay where what was your card
01:46:25
Speaker
Okay, so um did I was like, you know, within me rise, Omegary, and make the hate card that exists deep within you. And it came to my mind before I even realized what it was. and then i realized what it was was, a way to make this card fun for me and no one else. Okay.
01:46:52
Speaker
I played my and most favorite discard with Moon Knight and making other people discard all their cards. And bonus, um so if you remember, um the card is Scarlet Scarab.
01:47:06
Speaker
And I'm saying this because you guys probably know because you both saw Moon Knight, right? Yes, that's where I know Scarlet Scarab from. So yes, so she I mean, she's based, there was an existing Scarlet Scarab character who's a different character. She, like Layla, the character, is a new iteration of Scarlet Scarab that came with the MCU. But she just recently, because of course they read the Moon Knight comics, ah they just recently brought her back in ah to the comics. Short version, like she like moderates ah the debt. Moon Knight is the avatar for Khonshu. She's the avatar for...
01:47:45
Speaker
che chi two to o wrap what Something with a T. Okay. tower then Thank you. and And um I looked it up, so I'm like, get the get the name of the gets the name of them right, and then and then and then we still still we fumble. Okay, but yeah, she just showed up because some guy is being mean to ghosts, and she's like, no, that's my thing. You can't be mean to ghosts.
01:48:11
Speaker
And so in her honor and because she fits the ability all around, it's just great. I'm glad she showed She was cool. She showed up. She looks cool. you know She acts like every other woman does towards Knight, slightly disdainfully and annoyed. And you know like goes it goes back eventually once the ghost problem is solved. Okay. um So...
01:48:36
Speaker
It's a three three you know, because she's she's a balancer of life and death. And I thought 3 was a good... Because I i honestly thought 2 would be too cheap.
01:48:49
Speaker
um But she's an ongoing... Cards cannot enter players' hands from anywhere other than their decks. So many people are gonna hate this guy. If they were to play it and stuff, so many things. I'm like, this is such a hate card. It feels a lot like Stardust. You have made by far the most competitively viable card design of this secret homework.
Personal Challenges and Achievements
01:49:16
Speaker
This is a Stardust level card.
01:49:19
Speaker
I'm glad it's not overstated the way Stardust was. I mean, man. Yeah, this card's very strong. There's no way this card would not say... this card wouldlea yeah you Oh my god. Poor Merlin. My my sweet, beautiful wizard.
01:49:37
Speaker
ah He needs to be stopped. No, he does need to be stopped, but they should nerf him. Make him a 2-2 so he's still But remember, it's still an ongoing... mean, there are ways to stop it. You know, red guardian, a deafening cord, you know, later on, an enchantress. Like, you know, it's not invulnerable.
01:49:55
Speaker
Like, Mobius is a, you know... It's too late. If you're enchantressing this, it's too late for you. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. I love it. It's great. It's a great tech card. I can see that being real. I think it's very cool, too.
01:50:09
Speaker
Okay. um I am assigning next week's homework, and I was thinking, okay, harking back to, you know what I was talking about with the new year and New Year's resolutions, and I think this is already going to be a tough enough year, and we need to challenge ourselves to stay connected and to find joy. and I, so I wanted to make one thing that I am doing, I did this, I was doing this before I thought of it, like a secret homework, um is a challenge me for myself is that am a film major, you know, i have always, movies have always been really influential on me. At one point i was like, you know, I like project-based work. I thought I was going to go maybe be a film director and, you know, i've I've watched a lot of movies and um I kind of just too passively ah laid down and allowed smartphones to rewire my brain.
01:51:05
Speaker
do ah have a lot of trouble sitting, watching through a movie unless I'm in the theater. Also, way just if you've noticed, I have a lot of thoughts all the time in my own brain that kind of spiral.
01:51:17
Speaker
um But I used to love movies, and I would get really into them. And sometimes they would just like have a real effect on me. me that would like wing everyone's and i'm like i want to watch movies again but i want to keep it like you know i want to get back into it but i was keeping it light so for me this is a year-long challenge and i am doing i guess i should have just waited describe this as my secret homework i figured that point out later Like, for each month, I'm going to watch one movie and I'm going to have that movie selected by a friend. The movie they most want me watch. Ooh, that's cool. in Maybe with them about it. Yeah, I was going to actually ask Lauren first, but then I was ran into a ah my scheduled chat with one of my long friends that if we didn't have scheduled chats, we'd fall out.
01:52:07
Speaker
not good at I got it. So I asked her and she signed me Nimona the Netflix animated movie. That's my January movie. movie Yes.
01:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. So the secret homework is. oh yeah. Go ahead. Say it. It's by Andy Stevenson, who did the Netflix She-Ra. Yeah. Different tone from the book, but both good.
01:52:30
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yay. So, yeah, I'm excited in to watch it and then get to talk about it um with her. And, yeah, it's just something that'll be fun that, like, I enjoy and I feel ready for. I'm not, like, forcing myself into something. So that's the challenge. It needs to be not something that's, like, ah not like I'm going to hit the gym or something. It's something that will either bring you joy or comfort. I want to challenge you to challenge. You have to come up with a challenge for It can be inside snap.
01:52:57
Speaker
It can be outside snap. It doesn't have to be like a year long thing like I'm doing. It just can be a small once off. But, ah you know, create a challenge. ah Challenge yourself. It's joyful.
01:53:10
Speaker
Sorry. Challenge yourself in a joyful way. Okay. But like, you know what mean? Yeah, that's the point. Something that, you know, bonus points if it can connect you to other people, but like something that would just bring you. The first one that came to mind was not joyful. that So I'm going to have to think about something else. That's something hard, Not something that's another task on your list. Something that reconnects you with yourself.
01:53:36
Speaker
I love that. I need to be better at like one line. Good example. Friend of the show, Cure Nimbus is drawing for 30 minutes a day every day. is ah up to day nine already, which I think means started before January 1st. Anyway, that's great. That's a good one.
01:53:55
Speaker
Drawing every day. That would make me happier. If you liked what you heard and you haven't already, like, comment, subscribe, rate and review, et cetera. um They really do bring us joy. um i try to read all the comments.
01:54:09
Speaker
um I did just do a massive catch up. I always read all the comments. Five months ago, there were a few that I responded to. I'm like, I know this is super late. Sometimes comments come really late, though, so then you like race cu you you're like yes you're looking at the next Yeah, I'm usually pretty good at at proactively watching the new episode, but I have to go into like the YouTube Studio app to see old like stuff on old videos.
01:54:40
Speaker
Anyway, um we love those. But if you want to chat with us, you can come hang out in the Speakeasy. It's our little corner of the Snap Judgments Discord. Instructions to get there are in the show notes or video description. If you can't figure it out, DM me on Discord.
01:54:55
Speaker
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01:55:07
Speaker
Anyway, tune in next week. Same Snap time, same Snap channel! Alright. I mean, I do have something I can brag about.
01:55:18
Speaker
Sorry, you're jamming to but I do talk a lot, so I'm totally... I want to hear you brag. Okay. This is an FF14 brag.
01:55:30
Speaker
They have a deep... Okay, the deep dungeons. This is their roguelike. You go down into the depths. It's a procedurally done generated dungeon, and they go all the way to like level 200 with lake a lot of these. you know They've released several with increasing difficulty. You level up your weapon over time and your armor through chest, so it's a real like kind of mini roguelike experience. within the game. And I've finished the story out in all of them and usually not like bothered to grind for the rewards.
01:56:05
Speaker
um But like, okay, the new one has a ah has a new hairstyle in it that you can only get from there. And if you don't think that my character's hair in game changes ah rather frequently.
01:56:22
Speaker
it's like that's driven me to this grind. It's just for the hair. Most people are after like the mounts and stuff. I'm like, how far are we? his hair though. Okay, so I've been doing it. Let hairdresser pick the character's hair too.
01:56:38
Speaker
Well, I do honestly a lot of times I try to match it to like, you know, to my hair. That's so cute. That's cute. Your hairdresser doesn't know that they're also... Okay.
01:56:52
Speaker
Okay. I did tell her the story today. I'm like, I don't. I would never talk about you on the podcast. Oh, no, no, I'm doing it. It's not even the first time.
01:57:03
Speaker
No, I told her. There was once where I said that I would follow you into hair battle anywhere, and she was super tickled by that. She is so cool. She's like, she just got into like D&D. Anyway, she's amazing, and i love her.
01:57:17
Speaker
um Okay, but, what it oh yeah, FF14. So I'm going for this hairstyle, and normally I've only gone up to story level, you know, which just is like normal mode, you know, normies can handle it. um And i kind stuff can get pretty hard in FF14, and don't usually do the hardest, hardest, hardest content.
01:57:39
Speaker
Um, and, but I've been, you know, i'm like, but you know, we're creeping up. Cause like, once you clear that level until you die, like, you know, and you can only have two runs and it's like, well, i'm not going to clear out a run. You got to finish it till you go. So I'd gotten to the highest run, like, ah but it was one of the levels between 50 and a hundred. I forget, it might've been 60 to 70 or something. than I've ever been. Right? And it's like, okay, maxed out, like armor and stuff ready to go. I was undersized in the party. i just, it was just me. I'm like a warrior with my big trusty axe. It's on me to take all the damage and tank and like, you know, see us all through. Plus I have heals. I'm kind of like a tank. I've kind of I'm kind of the heart and soul of this party to be honest with you. Even though ah my companion ah was a bard who I guess theoretically sounds like they should be.
01:58:32
Speaker
like They play the music that keeps me you know jazzed up. And um so I go in and I feel ready. I've prepared. the lower levels all are all easy. I'm like, okay, 10 levels to go. 10 levels to go. we get Then we fight a boss.
01:58:47
Speaker
And then I win. and I get closer to the hairstyle. And um we go, level one, ready. immediately i get killed by like an enemy attack that is oh no like like not visually telegraphed but is telegraphed yes I'm like oh it's over already but like somehow you know we raise a phoenix feather happens you know what a phoenix feather is played some JRPGs and um I'm rezzed and like the only reason
01:59:23
Speaker
dies and die it's like oh we're just barely it's like it's like we're like red shirts onto the first new planet it's just everything it's just like my arm you know like I was not prepared I thought I was ready I have a very large axe and I know how to wield it but like we're going through and then somehow Just barely we scrape like we get through the first level of 10. And it's just like we're just like barely. It's like, oh, we barely we barely made.
01:59:59
Speaker
We've used all of our stuff, like all of the potions and gun, everything's used up, staggering out. But somehow, somehow through all nine levels. It is like the hardest shit in um this deep dungeon we've faced yet.
02:00:16
Speaker
Get to the boss, okay? And the boss, it's like typical, it's it's typical boss where it's like it does a set number of attacks, you know, so maybe some things a little bit randomized, but in a pattern that you need to follow.
02:00:31
Speaker
ah
02:00:34
Speaker
Like halfway through... um the bard dies to the boss and we use up the res and it's gone, it's just me. And like, I am a tank and this boss's mechanics make me stay like at ranged a lot. i'm I'm a fart, like, let me get in there with my ax. And it's like, no, that's gonna blow up and kill you. So like I'm doing this dance, right? I'm hopping around while explosions are happening, right? And I've got the pattern down. I'm following it, but I can barely even damage this boss. I'm one player, it's meant to be four four players, and I'm the tank. I deal like the least damage of anyone in the party. And I can't take two hits in a row. I have to do this pattern
02:01:22
Speaker
perfectly. And the timer is counting down. It took us so long to get through this 10, even though it's a generous timer. i have three minutes left to beat this boss or the whole run has gone. All the treasures we've gotten will vanish. You know, it's a real like this whole 10 levels will disappear. and for like three solid minutes, Right. And this is me. I mean, you know, like we're in evening, Ri. This isn't like, like even like re-signed up for her best, you know, like here. This is like, like, ah you know, ah we came in and I just for three minutes perfectly executed this pattern, like hitting when I could just like, said like we got this, like Zen mind, beginner mind, like just repeat this over and over again. You can save it. You You save the You can save the day. And like, you know, and and we did. We did. The boss goes down with like under like 30 seconds. You know, I think it was even under 20 seconds left to go before the timer would run out.
02:02:30
Speaker
And like, you know, it's just like that's wild. That is wild. And it's kind of like nobody will know, right? It's like how Booster Gold is always like he'll save the world and he saves the world and it's like nobody knew. It's like nobody he knows. what But I just I just perfectly executed this pattern straight for so long.
02:02:53
Speaker
i did it. It was one of those like after and just like I needed I like I just had to go walk. I was just walking around like just like done. I finished it. The run is saved. The treasure is ours. Okay, anyway.
02:03:08
Speaker
Can you describe your hairstyle? What? Can you describe the hairstyle you fought so hard for? no i don't get the hairstyle yet. I got a number of tokens.
02:03:19
Speaker
For this effort, I got like the lake 99 tokens. I mean, I had get the hairstyle.
02:03:33
Speaker
Okay. okay nice I've also got a question. Have you played massively multi-online player game? Not the same City of Villains and Star Wars Galaxies. I tend to avoid them. But I have a question. So in in the um MMO, Final Fantasy XIV, you have Phoenix Feathers. How do they compare to Mega Phoenixes or Phenises, perhaps?
02:03:56
Speaker
And ah Phoenix Down from mainline Final Fantasy games. Okay. So... Is the Phoenix Feather better, worse? and I mean, like, is is down the best kind of feather? Or a better kind of feather than these feathers? Well, let me ah clue you in on the economy the Phoenix Feather. it used to be they were garbage. Like, they dropped a lot for free. You'd get a stack, you'd get rid of them, because you couldn't use it. They're an item in this game. Normally, you can only get rezzed by healers and by um certain DPS classes like summoners, which I... can play quite frequently. But also Red Mage. Okay. Sorry. I'm not going to get into a whole thing about me versus Red Mages. Okay. But, like, they were considered garbage because you couldn't use them in most scenarios. And if you're out in the wild, because one character can be all jobs, if I'm going to res someone in the wild, i'm not going to be like, do you get in my bags for a phoenix feather? I'm just going to, like, poof, now I'm a White Mage. Actually, I'd be a scholar because, you know, smart like that. But like, and then I'd be like, rise, you know, with my powerful spelldom. So like, it was just considered like trash that nobody wanted. But just this year, um time is passing, but I'm pretty sure this year.
02:05:21
Speaker
They made a big change. Maybe last year? we Phoenix. Oh, you're right. We're only, oh, oh no. Yeah, I was wow, it must have been very recent. last year.
02:05:36
Speaker
I'm so solidly in time and space.
02:05:40
Speaker
They made it so that you could use it in things like the steep dungeon, right? Which you used to not be able to use it for. And suddenly it's useful because I can't change class in the middle of the dungeon.
02:05:52
Speaker
And as a warrior, you know, usually I don't have the powers. only have the powers of death. I'm not like, and, um, yeah, and now I can, like, res people, and so suddenly, suddenly I'm like, oh no, I'm down to, I'm down to three phoenix feathers, I need to go buy giant ass deck, and they're, they're like, you know, the value's going up, invest in, invest in phoenix feathers.
02:06:20
Speaker
All right. I have to admit, within the last 10 minutes is the first time I have ever connected Phoenix down to the feathery definition of down. Yeah.
02:06:31
Speaker
All right, Phoenix down. feel like words are just in my head constantly. All right, jumbling together.