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S3 Ep245: The Hot Tub JRPG
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Join Dave, Jake, and special guest Rachel as they talk about showers, hot tubs, JRPGs, minigames, LAN party, and ChatGPT in this week's episode!
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Introduction and Host Welcome
00:00:16
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jake, and I'm joined by my co-host is always Dave. How's it going today, Dave? It's going okay. Oh, also, I'm joined by my co-host is sometimes Rachel. How's it going today, Rachel?
00:00:30
Speaker
How's it going today, Jake? I'm feeling okay. I'm feeling okay right now. Modern medicine is a dream, but I'm pretty sure I've got the vid.
COVID Concerns and Vaccine Discussion
00:00:43
Speaker
Covidio of some sort. Anyways, it's either like a flu or a cold or something like that. Dave was remarking before we started recording that
00:00:52
Speaker
we will have both now recorded an episode while high on our own supply of COVID. I didn't realize we had a supply. Can you not? Yeah, but other than that, I'm doing all right. We're getting through it. Vaccines helped out presumably a lot because I'm like,
00:01:17
Speaker
My gosh, this is a rough time. And if I didn't have a vaccine, if it was worse, I don't know if I could take it. You know, it's like. For real. Goodness gracious. Yeah, Dave and I caught it at the same exact time last time. I was like, I think I'm feeling fine. And then all of a sudden, like, no, I feel awful, Dave. How are you? Mm hmm.
00:01:39
Speaker
from the top ropes. Yeah, but it was it was validating because like when you message me, I'm like, I feel terrible. And you're like, I feel terrible. I'm like, OK, it's not just me like for it to kill. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was not happy that either of us were not healthy, but it's not how you told the story. I was exuberant. Good.
Nostalgia for Free Bank Lollipops
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, we should not share lollipops that we find on the street. Mm hmm. Today I learned. Not anymore. Not in this economy. We're glad pops are very cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they were like pop is like 550 these days. So you just always go to the bank and they had like the free dum dums. Now they charge you 50 cents. Oh, dude, I used to. They don't really. I just fuck it with you. Sorry. I would believe it, though.
00:02:32
Speaker
How much of the cashback do you want in dum dums is the question they should be asked to tell her. Oh, that's dangerous. Just give me all the dum dums, deplete my account and send it through the pneumatic tube, please. That's half the reason that I go. How many of the cream soda ones do they have? I think that's it's dependent on flavor. Oh, that's a good point. Right. Trying to think of a bad dum dum flavor. I haven't had one so long.
00:03:03
Speaker
There's definitely some little worse than others, but yeah, it's been a hot minute. I really liked root beer, but that's just because I like root beer, so. It's a good take. If you melt out that on carbonate it, you basically have soda. Yeah.
Gaming Delays and Community Interactions
00:03:17
Speaker
What kind? Sarsaparilla, technically. Ah, okay. Okay. Good save.
00:03:28
Speaker
But yeah, as my brain is relatively fried, I'm going to ask you guys to contribute topics. Our standard guest format is basically we talk about whatever the crap anyways, whatever comes to mind. But my mind is a stack of no objects. It's completely head empty. That's where I'm at. I think we should stop forcing you to talk, Ben. OK.
00:03:57
Speaker
Hey, Rachel, what you been playing recently? Oh, video games. Hmm. You caught me on a weird time considering the Tales of Symphonia remaster just came out and Bandai Namco decided to not ship my copy. So I'm just playing the last time it was released on Steam. I think I said the last of us is like a very heavy turn. Yeah, very different. Uh huh.
00:04:26
Speaker
You know, I love my turn-based Last of Us. I don't even know how to make that into a JRPG. No, it's too much. Yeah, that one's a bit much. So you're still playing the previous release for Tales of Symphonia?
00:04:42
Speaker
Yeah, so they they called this a remaster, but what it is is a port of a port they had done. So, yeah, it's they're just like, hey, you haven't given us enough money in this game for a little bit now. Do you want to try again? And
00:04:59
Speaker
I think they got me to publish it because they really goofed it big. It takes apparently, on the switch, 10 seconds to load, to get to a map. The loading times are extremely heavy. It's missing some dialogue. There's now epilepsy warning because they changed what happens when you go into a battle. It's now a blinking white screen. It's a hole.
00:05:23
Speaker
It's a whole mess. So I'm playing the last time it was released, which is on Steam, which is just a slight mess. It's fine. Also, this is my favorite game. Hello. So does it feel good? I guess are you looking forward to playing the remaster even knowing that there are those issues?
00:05:42
Speaker
Yeah, hell yeah. So I've been talking, I got into like the community for it recently. So the excitement's still there and talking, you know, when a game first comes out and you're talking to your friends like, oh, hey, remember how this part and how, you know, did you get to this part yet? And just sort of, what do you, what do adults say instead of fangirling?
00:06:05
Speaker
Fanboying, yeah. Fanboy? Okay. I'm not sure. I'm more male centric, yeah. Thanks, patriarchy. What's a good question? Nerding out? Yeah, okay. I'll say I'm nerding out. I'll do it.
Personality Test Revelations
00:06:23
Speaker
I'll do that. Oh, we all took a topic switch. We all took a personality test, I believe.
00:06:32
Speaker
So it was, um, uh, jock goth, uh, what all was it? Jock off nerd. I think it was like the three overall types. I remember top top left was baller. No one got because everyone who did, everyone who took the quiz in our discord was like Southern hemisphere, the, the nerd hemisphere.
00:06:57
Speaker
Um, I got like true nerd on the exact border to like, you know
00:07:03
Speaker
I think we must have gotten almost the same thing because I was, yeah, like directly on the line. And then, I don't know, the other 15 people who took it all got LARP. I was a little jealous. Dave. I didn't even want LARP because I'm not like a LARP person. I think just some of the questions that were asked I wasn't as one sided about because they're like, don't you love like doing certain things? I'm like, that's OK for some people. And they're like, this guy fucking loves it.
00:07:32
Speaker
He likes to act out fantasy in an RPG set. I was like, not for me, but.
00:07:38
Speaker
It's because it was one of those like political boxes, right? Like a three by three grid and LARP outcome was if you were on the nerd half, which is the bottom half and then like goth, which is the bottom, right. And I don't know if I a hundred percent agree with that exact take. If you're like, you know, you're like, death is an important concept to meditate on. It's like, oh, freaking LARP, right?
00:08:05
Speaker
I love that, um, dear Jenny got like 82% goth. I'm like, yes. Amazing. That's not surprising. She likes that stuff. She has, uh, the, uh, the vampire red, um, contact lenses and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, this is, this is her in real life, not just a true self is vampire. Uh-huh.
00:08:34
Speaker
I love that. She inspired me to get color contact lenses and then they arrived and I put them in and they looked like nothing. Like they're supposed to be like a bright blue and they just looked like, I don't know, sort of brown, sort of blue. I was very let down. I think I need to find her a supplier. You took a picture of your eyes and put it over your own eyes. I Photoshop in real life. Thank you.
00:09:01
Speaker
Oh, that's a cool way to do it. They make glasses for that with like a
Driving Adventures and Challenges
00:09:05
Speaker
fake nose and stuff. You can just put those on.
00:09:09
Speaker
God, which tales was that? Tales of Zillia, I think. They were really obsessed with those glasses. And from that game onward, they always have that as something you can add to your character's outfit and just have the crazy silly glasses with the big mustache. So I always like taking, there was this guy, his name was Rowan.
00:09:31
Speaker
old, like sorcerer kind of thing. He was like the granddad of your mystical adventure party. And I always just gave him this really ridiculous, like swirly eyes and mustache. It helps. Oh, I like the swirly glasses and the anime trope. Oh, they are a scientist. Yes. As they appeared into the abyss and the abyss is peered back.
00:09:58
Speaker
Is that supposed to be like the old like Coke bottle glasses because they were so thick so they were like blurry and you couldn't really see it? Was that what's implied there? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. They also have like it looks like their hair went through an explosion. Obviously they have gray hair. Just putting their fingers in various sockets for experiments. Uh huh. Science. You're just describing dice.
00:10:28
Speaker
Does he have gray hair? It's been a while. Yeah, I'll make sure he listens to this one. No, straight to white.
00:10:37
Speaker
That's fair. Yeah. So we'll we'll be like out if we decide to ever leave the house. I don't know why we would. But if the light catches it in the right way and like he swooshes his hair back a little bit, there's just like a whole sea of white that then covers with like the dark brown again. He's just hiding it pretty well. That's just becoming more attracted to your husband. I know. Yeah, I will second to the I don't know why I would ever go outside again.
00:11:06
Speaker
I'm just out. That's where I'm at. Last time I went outside and got sick. Yeah. I actually went outside yesterday and it was it was all right to good. Oh, look at you. On the way back, it went from OK to shit. I was driving back at like I left my friend's place like 1030 and they live
00:11:34
Speaker
like borderline almost another state. So getting back late and driving at night and trying to be very conscientious of other drivers in the road because of how late it is and people not paying attention and just being assholes in general. And I was going 70 miles an hour on a road.
00:11:52
Speaker
And somebody is merging on via the ramp. I'm like, okay, how fast are they going? Do I need to, uh, can I just chill here and let them go? Or do I need to like merge over and pass? And they're giving me the vibes of like, Hey, I don't accelerate quickly. I'm like, okay, cool. I will merge so I don't hit you. You will have that lane just for you to merge into and we'll be good. And.
00:12:12
Speaker
They're like, OK, I'm now in that lane that you gave me. I'm also going to take the next lane over. So as I'm about to pass them, they're like, I'm just going to go without signaling or looking at all. And so I had to do one of these motions and do a very, very hard veer and then balance out. Thankfully, there's another lane to the left because otherwise, I would have just hit that person. Sorry. One second. As great as that is for an audio medium, please describe the motion you did. It was amazing.
00:12:42
Speaker
Imagine you're grabbing the wheel and you're doing a very sharp turn to the left. Or you're like trying to close off a valve that's been leaking gas at the plant. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other danger is there's cars out there, too. Yeah. Yeah. Sicknesses and cars.
00:13:04
Speaker
the two big ones. Sabretooth Tigers, we got to cross that off the list. Don't have to worry about those anymore. Cars came right in their place.
Winter Comforts and Bathing Preferences
00:13:14
Speaker
They're the apex predator now. Operated weirdly by humans. Not all the time though, but most of the time. It's true. They're scarier when they're not. Explodes.
00:13:31
Speaker
I recall, um, uh, Dave was, was probably back there for this, but, uh, at work we had someone who had a Tesla and, uh, he was showing off the, this is years back at this point. Um, you can, before it was incredibly obvious about what kind of person Elon Musk was. Uh, so I know retroactive judgment for this, but the, uh, uh, we were testing out the autopilot.
00:14:00
Speaker
And I was like, well, that's cool, but like, do we have to do that while I'm in the car? Right. Like, like, I don't know if I trust it. It's kind of like, it gives you the sort of like a look at the car to the side, what it approximates. Like the other cars will be, and it's kind of like flashing as it detects or doesn't detect it. And I'm just like, this thing's just going to pull like a 180 and explode. You could have predicted the whole, all of this happening.
00:14:29
Speaker
Um, yeah, I, I could not trust that considering as a, as we try to get set up to record this podcast, I couldn't get my, my computer and headset to work correctly. So then having to worry about like, Oh no, what if I can't get my car to work correctly? Can't do it.
00:14:47
Speaker
I don't even understand how to open the door to a Tesla. My work friend has one. And I literally had to ask her, I couldn't figure out because you have to push in the handle to pop it out. There's too many steps. I got to write it down for next time. I mean, as somebody who's showered at another person's place, I get it. You're kind of like fiddling around. You're like, water, come out water.
00:15:13
Speaker
And somebody's like a mildly different setup. You're like, I don't want to mess it up. I'd rather just ask. Yeah, we'll talk. Why is every shower set up differently? Just just come out with a standardization. It's time is the year 2023. Make showers similar again. Nope. Not going there. I remember a time where we all used to shower together.
00:15:42
Speaker
back in the before times um yeah i like the you have a knob and the more left you turn it the hotter it gets so if you just turn on lightly okay that's cold let's agree on that pretty easy pretty straightforward and then as far as between if it's like the bath or the shower just one pull up to change it that's it that's all you need
00:16:07
Speaker
So ours is you move it is going to be different. No, I'm I am so upset by this because ours is you move it left and it's cold. You move it a little bit more and it's way too hot. So you move it back and then it's too cold again. But then you already hate being in the shower. So you just do your stuff and leave and you're cold. And you guys have like just like a very extreme water heater or something. But you're talking to the wrong person.
00:16:36
Speaker
It's just optimized to get you out of the shower. That's all it is. It's just to save water. That sounds rough, though. Optimize the fun out of it. Nice to just been tinkering in the shower while you were unaware.
00:16:55
Speaker
I think the shower is the one place I don't really want to optimize the fun out because like I like taking showers. It's like very cathartic therapeutic Also, yes And so it's like I don't know a utilitarian shower just seems depressing to me because this is my break from
00:17:16
Speaker
Social media or whatever the crap like social media is not really maybe fair to say I don't interact with all these platforms a lot But I do use my phone a lot or I'm always online or whatever the crap and it's like if I'm not sleeping I'm pretty much always online if I'm not in the shower, right? So So you're saying shower tech needs to happen it is
00:17:39
Speaker
I've thought about, you know, introducing a little bit more there. We have a mirror, which is very basic tech. It's very nice for shaving though. I will say, shaving in the shower, optimization for the ages. Freaking great. Really? Yeah. I've never tried to do it without looking to see what I'm doing. It's like, oh, that's good.
00:18:01
Speaker
Well, that's what the mirror's for. Yeah, yeah. It's a fog resistant mirror, so you can just be like, oh, well, you know, warm up the face, the lather, whatever the crap. I use a straight razor, but like, or safety razor, I should say. But yeah, it's really great. Not gonna lie, when I was over your house the other week, I was like, damn, that shower mirror is great. So yeah, it's actually been on my mind, and I might, I might purchase one when we get off the podcast.
00:18:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's nice It does kind of depend upon like
00:18:38
Speaker
This is this is the problem people that shave will understand but like drainage, right? Like we had a old apartment complex Dave, and I were at terrible drainage like You would shave and it's just like literally just beard particulate was all it would take to like gunk up the the drainage there I don't have that problem in the shower if you have that problem in the shower then I mean maybe don't shave in the shower, but There's factors to consider
00:19:06
Speaker
I'm going to live my life. Mm hmm. Yeah. I'm glad that my drain works at all, because if my beard is longer and I'm just like wash everything, like some hair comes out the top of my head, some hair comes out of the beard, some hair comes out of other places. There's always like a small amount of belly button lint. So like there is stuff to theoretically eventually clog it. But it's not really been an issue, thankfully.
00:19:35
Speaker
So it might just be the drain itself. But yeah, there's a thing like I should put extra things in here. That's just my belly button cleaning time. So I'm the one person who hates showers. I hate it so much. Yeah, I just want to be in and out of there. Why?
00:19:57
Speaker
I don't like changing, I don't have a better word for this. I don't like changing the state I'm in and then dices downstairs be like, we're in Pennsylvania, ha, ha, ha. I just, if I'm nice and cozy, I don't wanna be not nice and cozy. It's like the in the middle part.
00:20:15
Speaker
Like, you aren't quite in the shower yet, but you don't have your clothes on, so you're, like, freezing for that brief moment. And then when you're all done the shower, you're nice and cozy, and you turn it off, then you feel gross. You, like, cold again? I don't know. Gotcha. It's just sandwiched in between unpleasant times. Question. No. OK. OK. I'll answer your question. Yeah. Jake, as somebody who hates showers,
00:20:42
Speaker
Doesn't the bath pose the exact same challenges as a shower? For what we, for what you described there, Jake? I don't, I don't have a working bath. Everything I have is a standing shower. Oh, we don't, we don't do baths here. What a take. I'll try not even intentional. It's just from the way that the bathrooms are set up when we bought the house.
00:21:12
Speaker
Yes, exactly, 100%. I'm here to say that bathing is bad and don't do it. That's why you wouldn't let me come to your place to record this and I'm doing it remotely. Gotcha, yeah. Well, we definitely can't record here because that would be a health risk.
00:21:30
Speaker
Also for some reason people don't want to like just come down to the basement to join me for the recording I don't know exactly why that is but It's fine as you don't have the lights on and you're just your arm extends from the bottom of the stairs You can just barely see it. It's doing this light grasping come hither
00:21:49
Speaker
Like, nobody says hither, Jake. Jesus. Yeah. I will say, being of the feverish persuasion recently, that is the state transition in the shower of it was like cold beforehand, cold afterwards, whatever. That's exacerbated, and I don't like that, right? Normally, I could mitigate that because I just freaking love being in the shower. But cold afterwards, like with a fever, it's like, just kill me. Yeah.
00:22:20
Speaker
Now, now showers, we've already been there. They suck. Now, it's great pools, though. We recently went to a hotel that had a private pool in it, and I spent an entire day just in in the pool. They had a big TV up. It was just like watching like the mention 20 or something and just like swimming the whole day. It's amazing. Yeah, pools are one of those things where like I'm not crazy about bath, usually because I have like bits and bobs sticking out.
00:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, I was thinking like, do I do a chain joke on this or I just let it go? Because I did say somebody's name.
00:22:57
Speaker
Like with a pool, I like being like submerged up to my shoulders and just just hanging out. It just feels really nice and it's cool, but it's not cold. At least it should not be freezing. It's just nice to like hang out there, especially with like it's a sunny day. You have the contrast of like sun coming down on your shoulders or face and you just take a dip and you're like, I'm now refreshed.
00:23:21
Speaker
Right. With the concession that 100% of the time you will sunburn, right? Like this is, yeah, you outside spend time in the pool. The sunburn will happen. It doesn't unavoidable. Counterpoint. If it is a private indoor pool, like from said hotel, no sunburn. Hmm. That's fair. It's been a long time. Because there's no sun. Oh, okay. Oh, he got them.
00:23:48
Speaker
Oh, my daughter. I think the last time I was even in a pool was probably like old land party all the time back all the way back there. We really need to make more friends that have.
00:24:04
Speaker
Right. That was definitely the teenage strat, right? It's like when you're in school, you had a very, maybe I shouldn't say you. I and perhaps others had a very utilitarian relationship with my peers. Whereas like this person has a SNES. This person has a hot tub, you know? Now I was a better friend than they were, to be fair.
00:24:30
Speaker
for the most part, except that one time that I stole Age of Empires and I never gave it back. That was not intentional. Is that what you had? Age of Empires after you stole it? Now I don't know. I don't know if I have the disc anymore, but it's on Steam, I think, but I borrowed it and forgot to ever give it back. Shameful display. Shameful display.
00:24:55
Speaker
You're just making me realize that I had a pool growing up and I used to have a lot of friends coming over the house. No friends over here today. Man, they're only there for the pool. You got to get a hot tub. That's like the, that's the adult pool. Adult. Nah, I'm kidding. Yeah. Do you not like to shift the topic to the warmer waters? How do you guys feel about hot tubs?
00:25:20
Speaker
I love them. I can talk about them for hours. All right. Well, you've got 35 minutes. At some point, like my mom has had health issues for a while. So at some point my parents are like, oh, let's get a hot tub to help with like mom's back issues and whatnot. And I'm like, yes, for mom.
00:25:42
Speaker
So my parents got a soft pub, which is still a hot tub. It's just something that you can fill up. But if you drain, you can still move it around. It's like 50, 60 pounds, but it's like very thick styrofoam. It's not built into the ground or anything like that. So we set it up outside on like the patio or whatever and.
00:26:04
Speaker
I was in there all of the time. Just be like, oh, is it the evening? Is it cold outside? Is it snowing? Do I want to hang out with friends? Do I want to do this instead of a shower? Like it was my go-to. This is like perfectly hot where it's like cooking you a little bit, but it felt so good. I also like the smell of chlorine for whatever reason. I drank some as a kid maybe, but for me, like the whole experience is delightful. Love it.
00:26:31
Speaker
You're talking to someone who literally did eat chlorine as a kid. What's up? How was that? As my mom tells the story, it was the last time she ever ran because she had to run from the pool up to the house to call 911. But in my defense, I thought it was the stuff in pixie sticks. Yeah, that's where they've been hiding. This is really on pixie sticks. Anyway, hot tubs.
00:26:58
Speaker
It sounded very lovely the way that you explained it. Like, oh, this can be peaceful. My only alternate proposal is have you considered lukewarm tubs.
00:27:11
Speaker
I have. That's usually the result of why I don't like bastards, because they'll always become lukewarm. It doesn't sound as good to me, to be honest. I have like, I have fond memories of not my own, but yes, a friend's hot tub in the winter. It's like just straight up snow. And it's like freaking jumping the hot tub. And it's got this kind of a
00:27:34
Speaker
You know like reading a newspaper in an easy chair in front of a fireplace Smoking a bite of tobacco with mint or something like that in my head of old-timey Christmas Oddly specific of something you've done Jake. I've done none of those things but the But it's it fits into that that kind of like Christmassy trope for me of just super super comfortable Yeah, it's
00:28:03
Speaker
Like I didn't ever visit Russia or be a part of any of that culture, but I could see like having a sauna and then like it's just it's the start conscious of like, oh, it's so fucking cold outside. But then you go in the hot tub, huh? Yeah, because like I like how fresh snowfall looks. Or it's just something about it is peaceful. It's slow. I romanticize it so you can appreciate the cold, but not be cold.
00:28:34
Speaker
But if you get too hot in the hot tub, you can get out, do a quick lap around in the snow. And as you have like this steam aura around you, and then you go back in the hot tub.
00:28:46
Speaker
So we have no idea why, but for some reason, like a mile and a half away from our house, there are three hot tub places, like just selling hot tubs. I don't know if we're just like in, you know, centralized area, just competing businesses. I have no idea why. Are there really that many people buying hot tubs near me? Apparently. Hmm.
00:29:11
Speaker
I think it's it's probably a later in life pickup decision. It's like, OK, it's very much a luxury, right? Oh, yeah. Like we don't have room for one here, unfortunately. But otherwise, it would be nice. The styrofoam option, they've suggested that got me thinking, actually, if we can put that in the base. This is what I literally suggested to you guys.
00:29:38
Speaker
Because it would definitely take up some space still, but you don't need to have a giant one. Right. Well, I might have to go shopping around Rachel's location then if they've got like the hot tub trifecta of retailers. Yes.
00:29:56
Speaker
I will never forget, this is still in my dreams and I found out from my brother it's still in his dreams as well. My grandmother, when they used to live up here, had a Japanese soaking tub instead of a bathtub. It was, and I'm going off of childhood memory here, so I might not be expressing it perfectly, but it was large enough for, I don't know,
00:30:24
Speaker
It was pretty much a hot tub, like multiple people. It was like six feet deep and it was just her bathtub and it had jets in it. So I think it might've been like a hot tub just sunk into the floor. And it was the coolest thing ever when we had to like, oops, like I'm gonna stay over grandma's place. Like I would offer to to be like, yes, tub time. But when they sold the house, the people who bought it were telling like what they were gonna do. And they're like, the very first thing we're gonna do is take out the tub and put another shower.
00:30:53
Speaker
And I was so devastated because they already had three showers. Like it was just, why? It's amazing. But miss that damn tub. I've never like, made any sense. Figured it out.
00:31:06
Speaker
Well, you've got to get more jets, obviously. Jets are another big perk of hot tubs. It's just like, hey, do you want your body to be massaged? I'm like, yeah, can we get more relaxed? Give me some alcohol in there. Let's go. It's all good. And then you're like, are you going to be my girl? That's a jet song. Anyway, Jake. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say, that's why you got to get one of those spray nozzles for the shower. It's not as good as a jet, but you get exactly one jet.
00:31:38
Speaker
That's it. It's very, very basic, not advanced. This is how Jake transitions into like trying to sell me on getting a bidet. It's like a jet, but it's for your butt. I mean, I shouldn't even have to try to sell you on getting a bidet. You have enough friends that have bidets that like I don't understand why you're not already buying a bidet.
00:32:00
Speaker
I think it's just the initial barriers to entry of I don't know too much about it. Like the the initial cost is not insane by any means for like a luxury item like that. So I wouldn't want to. What? It's like 30 bucks to get a bidet on Amazon. What?
00:32:20
Speaker
But so off the podcast, we have extensively talked about this topic. And I believe it was that the $30 ones are more likely to not have the hot water connection. And it sounded like you wanted that hot water connection from what we discussed before.
00:32:38
Speaker
Very normal conversation. I don't want additional clenching throughout my day with the surprise of cold water in places. So yeah, water would be the go to. That's fair. We have our set up to cold water and doesn't really bother me, but maybe I'm just adapted to it because it's not for me to. It's not like ice. It's just chilled water. But yeah.
00:33:05
Speaker
Thought about it is like a birthday present just be like here's the bidet But the second part of the present is like helping you install it so I'm not just like giving you work But you have you have the the complication that you are in an apartment so
00:33:28
Speaker
Once you're done with the apartment, if you ever want to move or get some other place or something, you have the decision to make. Do you bring the bidet with you or not? Or I said, like, hey, if you want to make my rent cheaper for this final month, I will give you guys a present. Throw in the bidet. I mean, how easy will it be to sell that unit? It's like, oh, and this one has a bidet. And they're like, oh, nice.
00:33:53
Speaker
The areas are right. We're a little spacious. Oh, it's my butt. They get to charge an extra hundred dollars a month for that. Oh, they would a month. Oh, that's dirty. But not as my butt would be after using a bidet. It's true. What's funny is every like six months or so, the apartment office will call me like, hey, do you want like a carport?
00:34:17
Speaker
We have one that's available. I talked to them once about like, what the fuck that is. So we have certain spots that are covered. And I was like, oh, they're just general parking, whatever. I never parked there because I never needed to.
00:34:29
Speaker
But I did find out that those are actual paid spots. You would not want it to rain or sleet or snow on your car. You can have essentially an awning over it, but it's like an extra 40 bucks a month of your rent. And for a parking spot, 40, no, get the fuck out of here. It's insane. You could just get a car cover, a one-time purchase car cover and be in a similar spot.
00:34:55
Speaker
I could see it kind of being nice for cold weather months. If you're older and it's harder to get around, you don't have to like shovel off your car and all that jazz. Yeah, I do see the convenience there. But I'm still young and spry, I think. Some of my bones don't work.
00:35:15
Speaker
I did like a half hour of Just Dance this morning, any yesterday, two whole days in a row. And my body right now is like, I think it's eight hours later than it actually is. Sleep time. Yeah, you don't feel it like that day. It's always like a day or two later. It's like, did we? Oh, yeah.
00:35:36
Speaker
Yeah, unfortunately, I would love to play more of this on COVID, but my stamina in general has fallen off as I've receded into a much more sedentary lifestyle. And sometimes now I'm just like, I think about doing something and I get winded. I'm just like, all right, let's not do that. I have to walk down the stairs to do this recording. And I'm like, good thing there's a handrail. Down the stairs is always the hardest bit for me too.
00:36:07
Speaker
I'm trying to think here, what's like an IRL stamina potion? I mean, the non-answer, but I would have said earlier when I was younger, it would be an energy drink like Monster or Rockstar or something like that. I'm doing that. I need another. Gotcha. As an adult, maybe like a bolt house smoothie fruit drink thingy. I love those. The chai.
00:36:43
Speaker
Like for me, if I'm doing like gym stuff, my usual routine is like make whatever actual elixir of some energy drink plus water, maybe throw in some Gatorade if I have some. And then like ibuprofen and like a little bit of some type of drug. So my body is just like fully, fully dosed and looking to go.
00:36:59
Speaker
I think I've tried one of those once. Did they sell them at Trader Joe's? Possibly.
00:37:06
Speaker
You're a chef! I'm going for 20 minutes. I'm going to be profane in your energy drink. I take it beforehand. I don't actually mix it in because it tastes bad. That ruins some of the magic. Let me take it with the potion. It is kind of funny that you're just... This is very much the oblivion or Skyrim thing where it's just like, well, the effect of this ingredient is... It reduces inflammation in this ingredient for energy.
00:37:35
Speaker
And that's a lot of what a lot of protein shakes are. They're like, hey, everything for your muscles. And you're like, it tastes good, I think. And having the fair life protein, their their chocolate is like, sure, I'll have a chocolate shake and it's not a lot of calories and it tastes good and 30 grams protein. Okay.
00:38:00
Speaker
As long as it tastes good, I'm like, and it's healthy. We're doing good today. Mm hmm. Like I had some kielbasi as a part of my lunch and I've also had some more monster from yesterday that I've just been like nursing and my insides, you're like, what have you done? Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah, as you're saying, I was like, oh, that sounds good. And then like my my stomach rumbled a little bit like, oh, OK, we know we know what's up.
00:38:32
Speaker
Kielbasa, because of how fatty it is, it sears up so nicely in the pan, so it gets very crispy. I've had Kielbasa for less than a week. I'm like, Kielbasa, though. I'm just rethinking my entire life because I'm like, oh, crap, I call it Kielbasa. Am I wrong?
00:38:53
Speaker
I heard somebody say kill bossy, so I've been saying kill bossy. And also Jake made the joke at a land of kill boss. I thought it was good. I think about it every time now, including when you mentioned it earlier, but I'm like, it's I've already I've already said I've said my piece. No, I still think about that, too. How'd you guys like land this year? Forgot that happened recently. Yeah, the aftermath here is not great, but land itself. Lovely time. Yeah.
LAN Event Reflections
00:39:24
Speaker
Would second that um The aftermath I feel in my bones and body, but it was nice to meet people there in person Talk to people we are continuing the trend of playing fewer games Which is It's a mixed bag for me. Yeah cuz like
00:39:49
Speaker
It would be convenient to like not bring a computer, but at the same time, like, I don't know if we never play like any games there. Uh, we had like, what we had a split, we had remote and then the people there in person. And then I think the people that were remote were kind of left out of it a little bit more because so many people were just walking around chatting in person. There's not really much you can do to mitigate that. Like, but it was something I was cognizant of the time at the time.
00:40:19
Speaker
Um, yeah, I, we used to bring computers, but we don't anymore. We just bring our laptops. So like I said, I both got decent laptops. So, you know, he will still play some things occasionally at land. I don't know if he did this time or not though. I saw him playing a single player game. It was some, some sort of JRPG or something like that, I think, but.
00:40:41
Speaker
Metroid? The Metroid had come out. Yeah, RPG. It's very, very great. It has upgrade. So it's an RPG. It's made in Japan. So it's J. Check it out. Metroid is a JRPG. Yeah, I think it was Metroid. And I think I think it would be kind of fun to reintroduce some sort of schedule for playing some of those games. But I don't know if the
00:41:08
Speaker
kind of just walk around and talk to people, be like boring adults, is maybe just more of the, more of the meta now, right? I mean, it doesn't have to be. I think we have a variety of people who are on your side here, but then it's just the people who, like I'm on the opposite side. Playing games gives me anxiety. Hi, that's why I'm here talking on this gaming podcast.
00:41:37
Speaker
No, I like single player JRPGs, so it's not really meant for LAN. So trying to play the other stuff stresses me out. So we had art and some other nonsense going on in a private room. And it's just like, that works for us. But Jake, I wouldn't have expected you to camp out with us and using perler beads and ironing and whatnot. So I think we could get a decent split.
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's always been a bit of a split. Even in the earlier days of LAN, we'd have people playing like Magic the Gathering or playing pool.
00:42:12
Speaker
And like doing some split off activities. We weren't doing like, Hey, everybody's playing this one thing. But I do kind of miss that. Hey, we're all kind of like drinking and playing one game and talking shit. I love that. It's just, I haven't had a desire to do that in a while. And also like logging my setup. Like if I do get a laptop, it would be specifically for that reason of, Oh, I can bring things here. Just have like a headset, a mouse, and we're good to go.
00:42:41
Speaker
But I also do find myself always meandering and wanting to talk to people like, Hey, I haven't seen you in six months. What's up. I found myself doing that more this year as well. Um, just chatting for an extended period of time, various people, um, boring adults. Yeah. There's boring adult crap. Um, but yeah, there's probably a mix that could be established where
00:43:09
Speaker
I think right now the the so I started putting in on the personal note I started putting in like a little bit more effort to get people to like vote for games and do all this stuff based off of what we had last time and then like we didn't really play any of those games we kind of did I think we played like two but we had this like post-mortem essentially for a land where it's like what games did people actually play so we can track this stuff for next time
00:43:34
Speaker
got to do a retrospective. Yeah, it's very businessy, very human adult business. But we were just drawing like in the other room, everyone's like doing like fan art and learning how to give a lap dance and very normal, very normal things happening. It's definitely adult and boring. Right.
00:44:02
Speaker
No, that's I, I do think that the social aspect of land is it's still peak, right? Like regardless of whether it's games or talking to people or eating food or whatever, it's still really nice for that. Um, yeah. COVID sucks though. Not gonna lie. Uh, and it's kind of unfortunate to be completely honest that like we both got hit with it. Both I and Jenny did. Um,
00:44:32
Speaker
For me, I could kind of take it. I think like it sucks. Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to wallow in self pity. It kind of sucks, but I also really, really don't want Jenny to get COVID because like she has to adjust her meds in response to it. She has lupus. Um, if I could have a HIPAA violation in real time on the podcast. So it's like, right? Like.
00:45:00
Speaker
It really sucks. I was really feeling for Jenny. I kept trying to refresh Discord when she posted the picture. I'm like, this can't be real. This isn't real. She's going to say, just kidding.
00:45:16
Speaker
But I think that's just, I don't know, it's something we're going to have to, it'll be part of the calculus, I think, for future events. And it's just the world we live in now, as kind of depressing as that sounds to just say, like it's not going away. So. I never took calculus. I did. I did. I just have never used it so many times.
00:45:42
Speaker
I really like hosting events to like get multiple people together because like I love doing like individual hangouts too but I also have like oh we're getting the gang together and then you just see like people vibing off each other people catching up eating hanging out having a good time but the last thing I hosted it was not COVID related but still like a bunch of people got sick afterwards
00:46:06
Speaker
So it's like what size crowd can you have get together or what precautions do you need to take? Or do you just keep winging it and hoping for the best? But it's always going to be a consideration in the back of people's minds of if I'm hosting this, when I need to account for X, Y and Z, or if somebody wants to attend, they're like, like, am I willing to get sick if it does come to that? Because it's become more of a likeliness, which sucks. Yes. Right.
00:46:37
Speaker
Can't argue that. It's something that always played Jackbox on Discord and never see each other in person. Yeah, that one's that one's less, less great, right? For all the reasons we said it was nice to talk to people, like that's what we don't want to give up by going to a remote only, you know, land party forever. And it also feels like.
00:47:04
Speaker
I don't know if it's rational or not, but I don't, I don't want to like seed ground forever to this disease where it's just like, or illness, right? Where it's like, Hey, life just sucks now. And that's just the way it is, right? Like that seems like too, too, too negative of an outcome.
00:47:25
Speaker
Well, it's sort of like if it's not this one, it's going to be the next one kind of deal because we realize that people can't control themselves. So it's it sucks to sort of try to like twist some of it. And I just hope we get to a state where like you don't have to worry so much about you and Jenny going somewhere. Like sure, if it's in the back of our minds, but like if we know what precautions or whatever and we can still see each other play games, have a good time. Right.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah, the thing I'm actually looking forward to are, like, better vaccines, just even more effective and, like, something where if it can reduce the severity to something closer to, like, the common cold, that would be awesome. Instead of having this debilitating, like, your week's freaking dead. See ya, Carol. Sucks to suck.
00:48:18
Speaker
Sorry, the podcast twisted to this, but I just feel like sharing this now. So I've had symptoms of long COVID since like a year and a half before I got COVID. So that's also super fun. So it would be cool to find out why that's happening. So to all of your doctors listening to this podcast, please add me.
00:48:42
Speaker
Yeah. We have a very representative doctor base in our demographic, almost almost exclusively a bunch of M D's and other, other D's.
00:48:53
Speaker
A and Bob's. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, not to, not to be too much of a downer all the time. Right. I just get depressed. There's other stuff. You know what I've been playing recently. Hmm. I've been playing, um,
00:49:20
Speaker
Yakuza like a dragon. I knew it. I fucking knew it, which is the like a dragon entry in the Yakuza series that is going to be called the like a dragon series in the U.S. because it's been the like a dragon series in Japan and a mother earthbound type situation or something. How is it? It's very fun.
00:49:47
Speaker
I have had the thought, especially in the early game, that it's like, you need to have like an MGS4 level patience of like a cut scene is going to happen. It's going to play out in its entirety. Make sure you set aside ample time to view it. Um, but that's never really bothered me for the Arkansas games because the characters are so freaking good. The writing and everything just makes it so interesting. But yeah, it does go on for a bit. Really like, Oh, there.
00:50:17
Speaker
I'll get dinner after this. And then afterwards you're like, I'm starving. You learn so much about everybody. What's going on?
00:50:25
Speaker
And it's fun how you can take things at different pace. DICE unlocked the corporation minigame to not spoil too much if you haven't gotten there. He's like, oh, it's a minigame. And then he spent the next seven hours just playing it and optimizing it and breaking the game. And then he's like, oh, this game's too easy now and never played it again.
00:50:48
Speaker
I did note maybe this is just Dave shout out to Dave. He got me like a steel box special edition of the game But it has the minigames on like the main menu. It's like they're that front and center It's straight up like I mean yeah, you've got the game, but what about second game? I
00:51:11
Speaker
Final Fantasy 7 was that for me. Give me Chocapo Racing. Give me the other weird stuff at the Golden Saucer. Mount Hyrule. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of funny to
Gaming Insights: Yakuza Experience
00:51:28
Speaker
think about. I feel like mini games.
00:51:32
Speaker
Maybe they exist some to some extent in Western games as well, but they seem to be so much more prolific in like Japanese games And I think some of that might just be like their development Cycle or something, but like I can't see Like in yakuza zero. I'm pretty sure there was like a maid cafe cabaret is what it was cabaret management and
00:51:56
Speaker
And I spent a lot of time in maxing that cabaret. And I was like, if this was a dragon age or something, this, this would not be in the game, not just because of the tone, obviously, but also like. It sounds insane to say like, we should spend all of this development time to put this random nonsense in the game and make it fully fleshed out, but we have to be completely optional, but we freaking love it. Yeah. All thanks to WarioWare. Yeah.
00:52:26
Speaker
many, many games as possible. Go, go, go. You guys want to play those games? Destroy Mario. I've played a little bit when I was hanging out with you and Dice, but that's honestly my only experience with it. I didn't grow up with any of the Wario games. Wow, I'm a really good friend. Have you ever played this game? Yeah, only with you. Remember the one time I said, I'll never forget this moment. You're like, I will.
00:52:56
Speaker
Well, even near automata, like if you look at hacking, that is of itself a mini game. Right. It's like a nice little pace shift briefly. And they flush it out more with the game. But yeah, it's nice to have that breakup of gameplay elements, but still have it be in tone. Right. Naka's is just always whack a doodle. So like nothing seems out of place there. And I love that for it. Uh huh. The the juxtaposition of just like
00:53:26
Speaker
The minicar racing these little like freaking NASCAR cars on the track wherever they are and then like Main main story someone important dies in the rain like it's super dramatic scene and you just like
00:53:42
Speaker
OK, back to like disco. Absolutely insane. But I enjoy games that don't take themselves too seriously, which I think is like why maybe Western games, as we were saying, doesn't hit the same way for me, because it's just it's a great relief of tension to to then just be like, all right, I'm going to go do this nonsensical thing. But we have to save the world now. You mean 20 hours from now. Right. Yeah. If there's not a timer on that main story quest.
00:54:12
Speaker
We're not touching it. Definitely fun to diversify. But I anticipate that there's a lot of time ahead on this game. And this is one of the games Dave is like.
00:54:28
Speaker
Is a year or two years back was like play this we'll do an episode on it and then it's just like sunrise sunset sunrise sunset as I like Continued to play Starcraft co-op or destiny or whatever all this crap. I can't like use for content and Dave is just like dying in his chair visibly graying and
00:54:50
Speaker
So it's nice to get to get to get in there. I also knew I would love the game, right? Like yeah, everybody knew you would love the game Yakuza Yakuza is great. I'd be like yakuza zero sleeping dogs, which is a completely different series not related at all And this one or are great. I will say the fact that it's a turn based right now
00:55:11
Speaker
Makes it a little bit easier to play with COVID. Well, yeah, yeah. Because it's not like throw-out action combos and crap like that while I'm basically astral projecting. I just don't know where the projection is. That's why when my brain doesn't work, I'm like, all right, turn it on like Disney Dreamlight Valley, which is Animal Crossing but Disney. So it's like the same deal. Like, I'm not going to use my brain for a little bit. This is all we got.
00:55:41
Speaker
Uh-huh. So turn-based combat? Same deal. Oh, yeah. It's only for babies, I think, is what we're boldly saying right now. You need time to think about your actions? Yeah. The advanced games are for babies, to be honest. It wraps back around. It's like you go through all the try hard reactions, sports games, all that stuff, then straight back to a turn-based strategy for babies. So it's all good.
00:56:10
Speaker
Though they do make you they do the. I don't know where it came from, but I'm going to call it like the gun blade like effect, where it's like you have to hit a button when your attack lands. So you like shoot when you stab them. That was a fancy eight. That's probably correct. I know it's not seven. I don't wonder Jill. I don't know when that mechanic started in some games, but if you time your attacks, you get just some bonus damage.
00:56:40
Speaker
I don't know if FF7 had that with like Tifa's Beat Rush or if I'm just now conflating that. I'm not sure. It's more popular now though. Possibly. But yeah. I don't know. I don't claim to say that anything I've said here, probably not factually accurate. Check it. Except for the thing about how showers are bad. That's the only thing. Except for my personal opinions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Opinions? Facts.
00:57:08
Speaker
That's our standard disclaimer though, is we don't, for the most part, we don't know what we're talking about. We're, we're basically a chat bot at this point. We're a language model. We don't deal in facts, just like vaguely constructed English phrases. That is true. Part of it is for the hope of like getting engagement with people who want to correct us. So we'll just throw out random stuff, see what sticks and then hope that somebody be like, actually,
00:57:38
Speaker
But usually they do it off podcasts when they see me in person like, Hey, no, you fucked up this one thing. I was like, I did not know, but thank you. Please post that on our social media. Thank you. That's how we drive engagement. I mean, it's not uncommon. Yeah. I know we're approaching the end of time, but how do you guys feel about chat bots,
Chatbots and Ethical Conversations
00:58:03
Speaker
chat GPT? We haven't talked about it at all on the podcast.
00:58:10
Speaker
So chatbots, a lot of interesting stuff there. I have like, I don't have enough deep understanding to really understand what the heck is happening. But we were joking around at like,
00:58:26
Speaker
work and we can't use it with our work software, right? But we did it and like, I didn't want to type up this email to someone. So I was just like, chat GPT, type up this email to this person, do it in this tone, be a little sassy. And it was like, here you go. And it was beautiful.
00:58:42
Speaker
So for like little things that you then review and monitor and if you are, I wouldn't do any important information from there, not like write our entire proprietary code, thank you. But for little things here and there, I like the use of it. Don't necessarily like the ethics in it.
00:59:04
Speaker
art AI. That's a whole different podcast I will scream about but chat tbt is interesting and I have learned things by using it. Dave?
00:59:18
Speaker
I haven't used the chatbot or interacted with a chatbot since AOL instant messenger. Smarter child. Yeah. So a very limited experience with it. I've been watching some of Dax flames videos where he's trying to like use chat GBT to be like, how do I do videos for a year? And he's just following what it does, which I think is interesting. I really haven't explored too much with it. I think it's interesting as a tool.
00:59:48
Speaker
But as somebody who's written code for stuff. Yeah, like anything's only as perfect as it's designed. And I don't think it's near perfect in its design at all. But just like if I'm asking somebody like a friend for advice on something, I could see asking a robotic model or like doing a Google on it, right? You're just getting information from different sources, but just always consider the source.
01:00:18
Speaker
Yeah, Google's a good thing. I'm sort of treating it like a more direct way if I need to Google something to know I'm actually getting the answer and not just ads.
01:00:28
Speaker
Jake? I was just going to say, the mention of source is actually great because I had a segue for this. It's not really a segue, it's the same topic. But related to chat GPT, somebody had posted like, hey, it sure does seem like it makes up scholarly sources. And they tested it, trying to be like, hey, get me some information about this river delta or something like that.
01:00:56
Speaker
And it literally would print out this MLA style, here's a list of sources. And half of them were real people. And the other half were absolutely not. And you couldn't tell the difference. Oh, no. And that's probably my biggest concern with it, is it's like a language model. It's not a truth model. So it's great for something subjective. You were talking about making a letter with it, right? Because you can evaluate that and be like, this is the tone I wanted for the letter. Awesome.
01:01:24
Speaker
But if it's like, hey, write me a scientific paper, it's not going to do the science thing very well. Right. Because it's just doing like predictive analytics on what it should be talking about. Yeah, I think to cover with that 100 percent, if this was around when I was a kid, it would have written every single one of my five paragraph essays, but would not have done my science homework. Right. Yeah.
01:01:53
Speaker
Yeah. The subjective stuff, it seems a little bit better, but the objective stuff is very dangerous. Um, the problem is I don't think people can tell the difference. So I don't really trust a bot to do that for folks. Right. People are going to treat it like, like Google, basically. And if it makes up an answer that sounds like it could be the other one is that it'll, it'll authoritatively give you an incorrect answer to a math problem.
01:02:21
Speaker
Which I love. Like, it will literally break down like, hey, because this, then this, because this, then this. And there will be like a logic error. Glorious. I had that happen. I was just trying to figure out how to shorten like an Excel function. I just couldn't quite think of it. And it gave me something and I was like, that was wrong. And then its response was like, you're right, I did do that wrong. Here's the right one. It worked that time. I was like,
01:02:48
Speaker
This was a test that you've done well, Rachel. I will say on the computer science side, I've seen some videos of people who use it. It'll suggest code snippets and block blocks and stuff like that for like unity games and things. And it apparently does like a pretty good job there because
01:03:07
Speaker
Like a language model that understands code is actually just understanding code. That's what code is, is it's just a language. Um, but it requires like some tweaks and fixes and stuff like that. Right. So does the work I do. Yeah, exactly. Right. So, but it's really cool. I want to see where it goes, but I also share in the ethical concerns of, you know,
01:03:34
Speaker
be it our AI bots or chat bots or whatever, the idea that it's like, hey, if we feed it the entire internet as input, like, are we not treading upon a lot of people's ideas and IP in order to end up where we end up here? Like it's Ultron, actually. Like that's what happened to Ultron. And he went on to try to destroy the world. So like, you know, consider your options. Is this your most depressing episode?
01:04:03
Speaker
I don't know. We had an episode on death, I thought. We did have one on death. That all being said, I still think it's really cool. And if we get to a point where you have some sort of subjectivity filter on it, where it's like, hey, I'm not going to tell you facts without some disclaimer that these facts are not real. That could be helpful, but.
01:04:33
Speaker
Yeah. It's apparently really good for finding recipes also. It'll suggest like that Bing was going to do that. They were going to inject like a chat deep GPT, like add on essentially and call it being 2.0 where it's like they want that to curate the results for you. And New York times did an episode where it's like, Hey, I'm going to make this arugula salad. I think that's what you call it. Like for my wife, like what's a good side for it?
01:05:02
Speaker
And it'll like suggest aside and be like, Oh, that sounds good. What would be a recipe for that? And it'll give you the recipe and then be like, that sounds good. Or give me the list of ingredients in order of aisle from my like closest grocery store. And it's like, here you go. Whoa.
Future Topics and Farewell
01:05:18
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so the future is terrifying and brilliant in short.
01:05:26
Speaker
I will not add to that, because that conversation can now expand on to two other episodes. We just talked about CRISPR. Yeah, we can save CRISPR. CRISPR will be a good one. And then we should also circle back next time Rachel's on to talk about the AI art. Ooh. Because I'm sure a lot will have changed by then. Ooh. Yeah, I can talk for a full episode about that. Not, no bueno.
01:05:57
Speaker
So if you're looking forward to any future ethics episodes, be sure to tune in for any time we have Rachel on or talking about art AI. Yeah. Only ethics and, um, yes, we, what was fan girling? Nerding out. Yeah. Nerding out. All right. Yeah. Nerding out. There we go. Should be good. But thank you, Rachel for attending the podcast once more. Always a pleasure to have you on. Thank you.
01:06:25
Speaker
Um, if you guys have, uh, topics or ideas for future episodes, um, you could send those in. Uh, hopefully at a certain point, I'll be able to think of ideas too, but right now, again, head empty. Uh, send those into soapstone podcast at gmail.com, or you can join the discussion on Facebook at facebook.com slash soapstone podcast. And as always, we'll see you in the next one. Have a good night. Bye-bye.
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