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Season 6- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Round 12)
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It's a return to the Fantasy Corner from TFRY. On this episode, we are looking back at the happenings of the CYL in this last round of Champions Cup. We are also looking at where things stand in our PWR Fantasy League...we swear it's not rigged. Discuss further comps going forward in the CYL and of course it's that Start or Sit thing!
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Transcript
Introduction and Initial Thoughts
00:00:04
Speaker
It is the fantasy Europeans. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody handled that collusion.
00:00:28
Speaker
Hey everybody,
Fantasy Rugby and Champions League Highlights
00:00:29
Speaker
welcome back. It is the fancy Ruby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. It's fantasy corner time. Let's do the fantasy thing. Um, first thing we're going to do is we're going to recap championks league. Got more champions league businesses attend to as well, but we'll recap that on the weekend. Bit of movement. Um, Mark struggled to put the team together apparently cause he dropped three spots. Poor fella. Um,
00:00:57
Speaker
moving out of three guys moved up and including you and me or four guys. I'm so annoyed that I had a great week. And well, no, I had it. I wasn't. No, I guess it was a moderate, the OK week. But I guess I'm happy comparatively. Fuck, this is a tough week. Yeah, a lot of people. I think that's I think that's pretty much what's come down to. And he's still cracking. He's cemented himself at the top this week.
00:01:24
Speaker
You had the yellow hat, you had the best score. And this, and I say this with loves too, don't get me wrong, this dill hole was whining about, oh, I made a mistake with Lageric and Tedder and blah, blah, blah. Tedder got him 57 as Katniss. Damn. Not bad. Shush. Not bad. That's a good play. Well done, sir. He made some very solid picks. Like I said, the other one, Wade, was excellent. Yep.
00:01:54
Speaker
Yep. Well done.
Division Standings and PWR Performance Discussion
00:01:55
Speaker
Uh, so yeah, the standings and division one champions league for champions cup is Stu Duncan, myself, Cobus, Ben, Mark, George, and Justin hanging out, hanging out down at the bottom there. I think Justin missed a week, which is what killed them. Um, division two, Anton, Anton hanging in tough, but, uh, Alex is at the top right now, every party.
00:02:21
Speaker
then Anton Paul, Paul, uh, Luke, and then Franco, Franco hang out at the bottom. Um, every had the best week and that's why there was a little bit of movement and only a little bit of movement. It was him. That's it. Um, and then we have, we have, we have PWR stuff to chat about, uh, two weeks that we missed, um, a couple of,
00:02:47
Speaker
knuckleheaded brain farts on some people last week, but this past weekend, um, really good scores. Like two weeks ago, those scores were rough. Like I think the top score was 45 and we're used to seeing like 50, 60 be the top score. So that should give you a pretty good clue as to what the scores look like this week. However, had some really good scores. Um, player wise,
00:03:15
Speaker
Sadie Cabea had the best score for the weekend. But shout out to George for picking Evie Gallagher, who I did not think of. And she scored 37, only 0.6 worse. So yeah, pretty good pick on that one. And I think Duncan was the one that picked Vicky Laughlin. She killed it as well. So it was two forwards and three backs on the top five. As of right now, Ben's still in front, but the
00:03:42
Speaker
I will say, so the, this past round was George, Joe and, um, myself for the top three, but Ben is still holding a slender lead. Uh, five points, 5.2. Wow. And then again, there is a gap between you and me and me in third.
Fantasy Game Reset and Upcoming Leagues Plans
00:04:04
Speaker
Um, yeah, Ryan is in third, but he's got about
00:04:08
Speaker
almost 20 points to make up here. Yeah. And George is very marginal. That is point four right there. So, uh, get your tricks in. So, uh, speaking of.
00:04:19
Speaker
We are not going to do one this week. That's a makeup game. So we're going to just let it be, which means guess what, everyone? We're going to be on the full reset. So in the recess, someone suggested keep a spreadsheet for yourself. I don't think we had anybody actually give us a repeat pick bar, like one or two. Yeah. So there wasn't a problem. So obviously you're all on top of your shit. So well done. Yup. They're doing a good job. Yes. Yes. Um, yeah, get, get your picks in because we're on the back half, which means everyone is back open.
00:04:49
Speaker
And yeah, and if and when we do this again next year, we will obviously continue to tweak it, but for now, we're not gonna change anything, because why the fuck would you change something in the middle of the season? That was wrong. You don't do that. Go do that and have good things happen. Right, it's working. Let's just go with that.
00:05:06
Speaker
Yeah, we'll just roll with it. Everybody knows the parameters. Everybody knows what they're dealing with. Let's not change the ground. Also, Champions League dealings that we're going to be doing going forward. We will do Six Nations for Champions League on Superbrew.
00:05:24
Speaker
not the official. We will have an official league for both though. So keep your eyes peeled for that. If you're not in the champion's league and you want to join us there, um, super rugby plans will include both FRD. Yay. Back to FRD and super room. So there's lots of points to be had friends. So keep your heads on. And if you're not doing well, keep at it.
00:05:47
Speaker
You got plenty of points to be scored on the board. So yes, that's our plans. We will pick. We'll have plenty of time to pick the draft soon in terms of order, but we'll go back to that, doing the draft pick in order, which was always fun, obviously. When does that start again? February 23rd, I think, something like that. So this is where we're going to maybe have to see if we can schedule an earlier draft, because you and I are going to be occupied. Pretty busy around that time. Yeah.
00:06:17
Speaker
Chubby cheek machine. And we'll have babies too. That too. Not just that. Which one was I talking about? Who knows? I mean, it's nice of you to... You've said worse about me, but...
00:06:41
Speaker
All right, let's do start sit Shit I start us Quincy you do Quinn's and Lester.
Match Previews and Player Analysis
00:06:48
Speaker
All right, so Obviously so another England 60. Yes. No, the England players are in this week Just you know, I'll point that out as best I can as I go But just start from the top remember that there are no England players and the teams this week more than likely it looks like so for the Quinn's
00:07:06
Speaker
Uh, Collier. Yes. Then Baxter. No. Um, these, this is all based on either one scoring, like very good scores or two ownership. So just bear with me. Um, Riley over Walker lamb Hammond and launch between the three of those. I like lamb and him, but lambs hurt. So only Hammond, I'm not really a fan of launch very right now. I know his price is pretty, but that's probably the prettiest thing about him. If we're honest.
00:07:33
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No Dom, so Will Evans is all by himself back there, so off you go. You know, which was part of the plan to have him play eight. Well, Dom was away. Well, oops, Borsley blew that up. So it's probably gonna be like Tom Lade or James Chisholm or something like that.
00:07:48
Speaker
This might actually be a good week for Chisholm. That's true. To be honest. Yeah, he's up one start and did well, but yeah, we'll see. He's been playing like a maniac though, so that might be, he might be, he might be the eight. Yeah, possibility. I would start, considering how nine score, I would start Porter, probably see Jared Evans at 10 and I'm okay with him.
00:08:14
Speaker
Andre the Giant, yes. Tyrone, yes. Lana, yes. Nick David, yes. Assuming they're all healthy. Lester for the Tigers. So, Montoja, yep. Martin, definitely. If he's in there, he's got a point to fucking prove, no doubt.
00:08:31
Speaker
back row. My favorite is obviously Jasper followed by Levenberg followed by our foul. And then Rogerson of all those, I would not play Rogerson though. I know he's fallen over the line a couple of times, but that's all he's done. A couple of times. So you can expect that. Um, either Pollard or shellcock. I'm okay with, um, neither Kelly nor Porter cottas. The Cerny one anyway, um, for the OBS that are scoring well slash highly owned Simmons Brown, Ollie Hassel Collins. I'm going to say yes to all three.
00:09:01
Speaker
Right now. Not so bad. Oh, she is probably my least favorite of the of those three. Yeah, I'll still get my thumbs up. OK. Off to Franklin Gardens, Northampton versus Newcastle. Saints are first in attack, first in defense. Newcastle are 10 and 10. And yeah, we're a lot of Saints missing for this one.
00:09:29
Speaker
at the same time, don't sleep on the guys they still have. To me, this is a question of how are they gonna do without Finn Smith, which that's an amazing, you know, considering where Northampton have been recently and also where Finn Smith has been recently, like this is a, that's a fun statement to make. Either way, they should play just fine against this Newcastle team.
00:09:56
Speaker
Um, Matt of AC should, I'm guessing he'll start at hook. Um, Lincoln's going to be banned. So, uh, you know, who else is there? Um, Augustus, I think truck should have a huge day. Um, I would have looked to the truck. Um, Ollie slight home, uh, could go off. He didn't, you know, he's there probably there at their, uh, attacking back three player now with for bank and Freeman gone. So, um, definitely look his way and he, I think he's cheaper too. So, uh, consider that.
00:10:26
Speaker
for Newcastle, look to the fly half and outside backs, but really, again, this is the quality Saints defense and even with the changeover, I don't think they're going to particularly challenge. You talked about Rodgers, he might get a fall over try. Yeah.
00:10:44
Speaker
Radwan might go off on a run here and there. You and Steven's too. Like if I have to pick one or the other, I want Steven's because he's cheaper. It's so expensive for how little production he has. But at the same time, this might be the week like if you have a Freeman and you just want to do a like for like switch out for basically one week.
00:11:07
Speaker
Might be just that way. Like if you because if I change out Freeman for slide home and add value somewhere else, now I got to reverse that somehow. Yeah, reverse engineer. That's that's the that's the. Yeah, questions you got to ask yourself. You got to look inward there. Yep. Yep. All right. Bristol versus Bath should be interesting. Bristol's pretty well, mostly whole in terms of their players. So this should be fun as opposed to Bath is not.
00:11:35
Speaker
Still, I think this is going to be very fun. Um, so Thacker still hurts far as I know, but if he's in, he's in, uh, August fine as well. Yep. Joe Batley is still one of the higher scoring, uh, locks in the league. So he's a go, um, back row. I'm looking at the back row. Sorry. Um, Harding and Bradbury are probably the guys to look at.
00:11:59
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And I'm okay with both this week actually, especially since Bath are missing guys in their back row. So that's probably a helpful thing. Harry Randall's fine as a nine. Again, there aren't many nines that score a lot in this format. So yep, fine. Just play them and forget it.
00:12:19
Speaker
McGinty, yes, I don't love James Williams because he needs the T to be valuable and for him to be valuable with the T, he needs to not have McGinty. And so, yeah, pretty much Bernard and Vacatow are scoring better in their more recent game. So I'm okay with both of them. Um, Ebitoya. Yes. Lane. Yes. Melons. Yes. O'Connor. No.
00:12:41
Speaker
Um, for bath. Dutoy, just keep playing them. Cause you know, he'll fall over eventually. He seems to have a habit of it. So it's not so bad when you're, when you got a prop, all of a sudden a five pointer pops up. You're like, Oh, hello. Thank you. Um, for lack of some of the choices, I'm okay with Tom done this week.
00:13:01
Speaker
You'll sit, uh, I think Finn's still going to be playing. So give it a go. If it's Bailey, I don't love it. So no, I hope it's Finn. So I don't have to make a change there. Yeah. I picked him up for that reason. I switched him out for Marcus. Um, a little bit ago because of this. Yeah, it makes sense. Um, hopefully you didn't finalize it. Um, no, no, I mean, I did like last week. I think I got you Marcus put in thin.
00:13:25
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, red path. Yes. He's probably going to have free roam because no, all the Lawrence, um, and then the back three, um, candidates, I, I like all three to Glenville mirror and coca. If those are your starters, then I love all three play, whichever one feels good. Yep. Okay. Um, the, the match of the week, saris hosting exit, um,
00:13:53
Speaker
This will be especially interesting because Farrell will be available. Yes. And there's no reason to sit in because he's going to have a couple of weeks where he can just have some wine and watch other people play. Yeah, that's true. If the weather is nice, maybe play a round or two here or there. I'm sure you can find much of weather. Let's put it that way. Right.
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, this could be an interesting match up here depending on, again, which Sarri's team shows up. But either way, Theo is going to, Theo McFarland, obviously, because Theo Dan won't be there.
00:14:27
Speaker
But Theo McFarland will be the man at lock. It'll probably be him and Tizard. And between the two, give me Theo. Gonzo, yes. Fenzel would be a good potential play this week if you got some guys who were away. Farrell, again, yes. Back three. Exeter are eighth versus the outside backs. So, Sinti, Shagan, Goode could have some fun. And especially with really their, like, you know,
00:14:56
Speaker
Hodge is a kind of a danger man, but he's still coming back. Wyatt, I think is I guess he's hurt. He's been in play this past week. Who knows? So. They could still have a little, you know, really, I'm looking at Hodge from the back three for for Exeter. I'm not sure who else they're going to have, I guess, maybe. Should I almost sort of flats? Woodburn? But I don't know, you know, when we talked about in the other part about
00:15:23
Speaker
nice to see you. It's been a while and I hope I'm not manifesting it, but yeah, Woodburn, where have you been, man? But still, for Exeter, the front row, go for it. Especially this week, the Sarries have been giving away scrum penalties a lot this year.
00:15:40
Speaker
They're down to a fucking logo as one of their props. They've just had so many injuries. I think with him and them, they're better. When they play fucking training or whoever else it is, then it goes to pieces. He's actually in there doing the one thing that he's fucking been paid to do, which is scrumage the shit out of it and everybody else can take care of business otherwise.
00:16:02
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's just scary that that's like that. He's the one like settling it down. Well, that's that's his that's a specialty without a doubt. I think everybody will tell you that. Can you do anything else? No, no, that's that's what he does. So without, you know, while we lack, you know, Tom West, Maui, Mako, although I think they might get Mako back this week. Yeah. But this is this is also not the week to play like Harvey Skinner, I would say. No.
00:16:30
Speaker
No, no, no, don't get cute. Yeah. And then also the other reason that I, um, I don't know about their, their wings is because, so really I'm looking at the 15. I think that's where Hodge will be because he'll get a chance on, on kicks. Um, I don't think the wings will see much of the ball. Unfortunately, because again, you don't have that there's no, now you've, you've taken out slate who, who is one of the centers who can get the ball wide. Um,
00:16:54
Speaker
Hendrickson doesn't seem to be the distributor quite yet. And Hawkins just got a red card in that game. So he's probably not playing. So Godspeed. So you're down to to the literal ghost of Ali DiBodo. Yeah, it definitely doesn't look like the guy that they that really just shot to the front a few years ago. Right. And it's been like that for a few years now, too. So I wouldn't expect that to change overnight for this match. No, no, no.
00:17:25
Speaker
All right, Gloucester and sail so So front row Props may be valid if you actually fucking plays And then JFR and balmy and her nose for me right now We're going in yes probably the bit one of the better hookers it's left here Alemano. Yes. He's still one of the top scoring locks. I'm gonna say no to Freddie this week Not been great in those last five if I remember, right?
00:17:56
Speaker
Mercer assuming he's ready to roll. Yes. I think he's got a point to prove. I'm going to say no to Ackerman and Ludlow. Yeah, Clark, as you mentioned, Freddie Clark has a 10 point game against Bath, his last start, and then a 17 point game at home versus Saints. But other than that, he's been under 10 and 1, you know, 4.2 and a half. He's been poop.
00:18:21
Speaker
Yeah, mostly. So you need something a little bit more consistent than that. Those games are nice, but you need like, you know.
00:18:28
Speaker
9s, 10s, 11s to, you know, level out the rest of it. Right. Anyway, yeah. Don't love Ackerman this week. I guess he's OK, but I don't love it. Ludlow, I think we're going to see Barton at 10 back at 10 because Hastings got hurt. I hope because that's probably their best option because I don't know. We know Santee doesn't do well when he plays 10 for Gloucester. So so back in and still highly picked. I wouldn't I wouldn't start on that. And then Thorley is fine. Go for it.
00:18:58
Speaker
Yeah. For sale. Cow and Dickey. Yup. Again, we talked about, you know, hookers that are left. Yup. He's good. Hill's picked, but he's hurt. So get him out of there. DDP, I think is okay. Start him. War is a sit. Bobby dupes on the other hand is a definite thumbs up now. Yeah, he is. And then back three highly picked players slash scoring players in order are Reed or flats and Carpenter. Hmm.
00:19:30
Speaker
And then start, I started them all, by the way, of the weeks, of the weeks, um, again, especially with.
00:19:42
Speaker
The fact that a lot of teams, they'll be missing some players, but not their main player as far as distribution, which is the first time in a while for Six Nations. And this guy's come on really strong. And I know he's kind of the other wing, but I think he matches up better. And this is going by the, again, this kind of predicted points. It was going to be one of the two. It was either going to be Sinti or Shagan.
00:20:09
Speaker
And at either wing position, Shagan is showing the higher expected points. So I'm going with Shagan this week as my start of the week. Nice. Test out the algorithm. Test out these theories. Not that they were the highest, but I think it's more of a, yeah, it's looking like 15 points versus 12, and maybe that could be high. They could still outscore that. There's no question they couldn't.
00:20:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's where I'm going with. Use the numbers as more of a guide as to who's going to play better than what the actual point total is going to be. Yeah.
00:20:45
Speaker
That probably, that's probably a good way to go about it.
Weekly Picks and Predictions
00:20:48
Speaker
So mine is going to be, uh, so he's healthy and all that good shit. Always. Um, he's going to need to step up for his team. Cause his guys are, there's a lot missing and, um, love the player and I love the matchup and he's going to eat the home cooking and all that stuff and get a nice tasty snack to go along with it when he gets on the field. Um, I saw that it was going to be Roy Hutchinson from Northampton.
00:21:12
Speaker
Cause no dings. Yeah. I bet you, I bet you Oden doll plays 12. Maybe let's feel place 12. Oh, although let's feel, didn't you play on the wing? He did, but I, I don't, I, he also looks like he's just a fucking load. So that's true. I'm just thinking with, with the, you know, with Freeman and for a bank on, they're going to need to move somebody out. And so yeah, it's not going to be Odin doll. No, it won't be like the guy, but it ain't gonna be him. It's like putting Andre on the wing. You're not going to do it, man. Right. Um,
00:21:43
Speaker
Sit of the Week, you mentioned him as a go, but I got him as a stop just because, again, that back three, he's going up against, and their defense against back three is solid too. It's really hard to get around to Glanville, Koka, and Muir. So my Sit of the Week is Gabriel Ibetoye of Bristol. I think Maylands, I would have been Maylands, but man, that would have been, I don't want to
00:22:12
Speaker
You know, again, he could be that guy this week. And I was also thinking Jacque Vermeulen, because again, he's going up against a fairly strong pack this week. But Vermeulen, as you mentioned earlier, is one of those guys who could just fall over the line. And I'm not going to bet against that. And I'm not going to talk about that, Juju. So I just wanted to say that it's in consideration. So I'm leaning away from him. But Gabe is my I see the week. So the week. Yeah. So I'm I'm leaning into into it because
00:22:42
Speaker
Um, he just tends to never be bad, but never be amazing when he's, when he starts. And, you know, I liked the player where she wasn't playing for the fucking team he's playing for. But, um, my so that we can be Jack handle from exit or cause he never plays badly against series, but he also never really scores well against series. So, you know, with that said, that's that's that.
00:23:13
Speaker
All right. Pick of them. Actually, I haven't done the totals for a bit, so I got to go back and do that. That's okay. I'm pretty sure we know who's ahead. I mean, after the last two weeks, I at least gained two on you, so that's all I know. After that, toss up. Okay, so Quinn's Lester, Friday night. I'm going to go with Lester.
00:23:38
Speaker
You are. What was the same team? Yeah. And I totally will not be shocked if like Pollard and company pulled off. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like Pollard versus. Jared Evans. Jared Evans. And then again, you know, the, you know, no Dom, how's that, like, and cutting himself. It's like, there's, yeah.
00:24:01
Speaker
I feel like the lesser are less hard hit, especially like you said, Martin going to be. Well, yeah, you know it too. Yeah, right. Agreed. I do agree on that, but I had Harlequins at first. It was one of those like, oh, wait, hold on a second. Let me let me take a second thought of that. Maybe that was the smart thing and maybe it was dumb, but that's where I'm going. We'll find out what's happening in Newcastle. Yeah, it's Saints Bristol Bath.
00:24:31
Speaker
Beth. Yeah. I'm assuming this is, that's assuming Finn. I need to fucking prove it to me. Although, even if it's Orlando Bailey. I personally need to prove it to me at this point. Like they need to fuck. And I know they'll, they tend to show up in this game, but like, okay, show the fuck up. Right. Do it. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no talkie. More Dewey Dewey. Um,
00:24:53
Speaker
Anyway, Sarri's Exeter. Sarri's O Exeter. They owe him too. Yeah. Oh, please. Trust me. Even though that was like a bunch of kids that went down there with a couple of vets. There's a price that needs to be paid for that. They all remember. Everybody knows what happened and they're going to be like, fuck that thing. You're going to just bury you. So I guarantee that those guys are all mad. You know what else I would do? I would play that the fact that they brought the chant on the road with them to Bayon.
00:25:24
Speaker
and be like, well, first off, you know, Stonex staff, please, if you hear that, kick them the fuck out. Yeah, please. Second off, Saris, make them have no reason to even consider doing it.
00:25:38
Speaker
Yeah. Make life hard on them. Yeah. Gloucester sale. Sale. Yeah. I don't like Gloucester. This will not be a pretty one. I'm wondering if they lose this, if this would be the final straw for skivs and they're like, okay, look, we got weeks to get this right. A lot of teams in the NFL make coaching changes.
00:26:05
Speaker
even if it's like staff right before the bye week, so that you can be like, all right, we got this time we can work on, you know, we have a little bit of time to work on our new communications and, and whatnot. This if you're going to do it mid season, this is the time. Yeah, I think we'll use it and you'll see it with community managers, football managers in general, when the international week, international breaks come around, it's like, all right, if we're making a change, let's do it now. Because you generally have about two weeks to work with a team to get it right. So
00:26:31
Speaker
Yeah. They make the change and they appoint someone and let them do their thing for two weeks and try and drill the shit out, whatever the fuck they're trying to do. So yeah, no, not to simmer. Agreed. All right.
Episode Conclusion and Feedback
00:26:47
Speaker
Did everybody miss us? I missed us. Oh, it was, uh, it was good to get back in the saddle anyway. It's nice. Anyway. Uh,
00:27:01
Speaker
Be on the lookout for the sheet on Friday. We'll do- New info, expected points. We'll do Boombust, all the other good stuff. Until then, have a good weekend everyone. Later. Cheers.
00:27:20
Speaker
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