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Business of Machining - Episode 119
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You won’t be driving around in a parking lot for this episode, folks. It’s our shortest one EVER! Grimsmo's got some swiss lathe installation guys in this morning, and sometimes the work day starts earlier than 9am
Grimsmo Recieves his Tornos Swiss Lathe
The Grimsmo workshop has changed. There is now a new machine behind Grimsmo, and lots of set up to do.
About the Lathe:
- Tornos GT13
- Has space for LOTS of tools
- Relatively smooth delivery and set up. Fits where it was supposed to
- It will take about two weeks for it to be ready to play with, and that’s okay
- The bar feeder is on the left, whereas a Citizen lathe is backwards
Saunders’ Surgeon Mentality
Strategy to keep you clear headed, patient, and focused on the task at hand. Rushing will just end up causing more problems in the end.
Question of the Day: How do you stay focused while remaining available to help?
Saunders gives some good advice on this topic
Check out Tim Ferris for more advice on how to focus
Lean goes wrong?
Is there room for some fat in a company’s diet?
This is the theme of a potential video that might be done in collaboration with Jay Pierson. Saunders gives a little teaser.
Get your computer to automatically do things for you.
Fanuc Tip
Colorization > Comparison
PSA: Saunders and Grimsmo learn about the comparison view on Fusion. It’s a fun little tool, and something that both the Johns will be playing with. Let us know if you’ve heard of it before, and how you use it!
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Transcript
Introduction and Updates
00:00:00
Speaker
Good morning and welcome to the Business of Machining, Episode 119. My name is John Rimsmo. My name is John Saunders. Good morning, buddy. Good morning. It's a different view. It's a different view, yep. I'm in a different spot. I have a new machine behind me. And things are good. Cool. So let's fill it.
Tornos Machine Installation
00:00:23
Speaker
So yeah, the Tornos came in last Thursday and smooth install, no problems, no worries. Elliott Service guys are coming today to take all the brackets off and turn it on and stuff, as well as the LNS bar feeder guys are coming in today to properly line up. Oh, interesting. That's a separate team. Yeah, to probably line up and install the bar feeder so that I can actually feed bars now. I'm so excited.
Challenges of Managing Technicians
00:00:51
Speaker
It's funny how that world works with there being so many different, like from a business standpoint, I have a lot of respect but also don't envy the world of where you have to actually have a staff of traveling and technicians or apps guys or field guys to do work. It's very different than how you and I got started with Tormacher kind of DIY stuff where it was both simple but also just doable versus literally think about that. Think about if you had to have
00:01:20
Speaker
people all over Canada or US to go do maintenance on your knives or something. Yeah, right. It'd be silly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And they're all specialists too, right?
00:01:33
Speaker
Yeah, for the most part. From what I've seen, sometimes it's highly skilled. Sometimes it just totally makes sense. Sometimes it's I think less, slightly less experience or skill, but you develop these processes so that the guy on site can fill out forms or gather information and then real time send it to
00:01:54
Speaker
HQ or a higher up somewhere else and then get information back which It probably just speaks to the fact that you can't always scale up and have perfectly trained experienced folks out in the field. Yeah But that's I'm sorry that stuff should be simple right exactly yeah, so when they come here It's the whole thing where
Patience in Machine Setup
00:02:20
Speaker
You gotta get the electrician in, put power to the machine, don't turn it on, and then they come in, L8 comes in and then like turns it on and make sure it's right and stuff. So that hasn't even happened, or that is today? That is today, yep. Soon, should be. I mean, sometimes these guys show up at like 7.30 in the morning, which is almost now.
00:02:40
Speaker
Yeah, right. That's funny. Somebody's mentioned that when we were posting about our UMC 750, I don't remember the exact dates, but like the machine, actually I do. The machine came in on a Monday and I think Haas came Thursday or Friday and somebody was like, that's ridiculous. You know what? And I'm like, no, that's not how it works. I mean, it was actually incredibly quick. They delivered it, rigged it all day Monday, Tuesday,
00:03:03
Speaker
I think we had finished at the end of the day, totally confirming power and air. And this is right when Yvonne was having her stuff going on. So I was obviously distracted, but I think Wednesday I emailed and was like, Hey, we are absolutely ready for you guys. And they're like, okay, we'll have a guy there tomorrow. It's like, yep. Oh, fricking great. Yep. Yep. Same thing here.
Business Mindset and Patience
00:03:22
Speaker
Like it came on a Thursday. Uh, electrician came on Friday and then we had a long weekend. So we had Monday off and then it was like yesterday was me putting air to the machine.
00:03:33
Speaker
And then they come today and it's like, that's not a lot of days. It's like three working days until they come. Yet when I was first getting my first machine or even subsequent ones, but less so now, it's like you have in your mind, you're like, okay, it's going to get dropped off. I'm going to have power and air to it like the same day. And then the next day I want to install guys like you're so excited, right? So I can see a lot of people kind of.
00:03:56
Speaker
Being, you know, complaining about having to wait four or five days to get installed. But at this point, I'm just like, I'm kind of on cruise control. Like, I'm super excited to get the lathe up and running, but I'm not rushing it. I know it's going to take a couple of weeks. I've made that okay in my mind. And I just, I know it's going to take what it's going to take. And then when I have the opportunity to start running with it, I will. But, you know, I'll prepare before then, but I'm not going to like, like go crazy, you know?
00:04:26
Speaker
Good for you. I couldn't
Empowering Team Decision-Making
00:04:29
Speaker
agree more in the sense of it's that, again, I've been really personally satisfied with this idea of this surgeon mentality. It has really continued to help me without diminishing return. It continues to be something I can draw on.
00:04:46
Speaker
And you can extrapolate that analogy to your situation, which is, you know, the quote unquote patient, like, yes, you know, this, this, you want things to happen better, whether it's recovery or, or to improve. But the reality is we know we're going to get there and we're going to have a plan and it's going to take some time. We're not going to rush it. And it's just kind of that marathon.
00:05:10
Speaker
deliberate, um, which I think is hard for me. And I would say us as, as folks that have come from this kind of bootstrapping background, because, um, I've been thinking about bringing, as I bring back the chip break videos, I've been thinking about some of the content and I very much just wanted to survive in the beginning. So when you want to survive your scrappy, you're hungry, you're doing everything, you're trying to get things done quicker to free up resources to go do the next thing. And now it's different. Now you're, you're orchestrating,
00:05:39
Speaker
Yeah. Right?
Lean Principles Misapplication
00:05:41
Speaker
Yep. Cool. Man, I love that. Yeah, I've been saying something in our meetings that, have you ever heard of the interrupting cow joke? No. Knock, knock. Who's there? Interrupting cow. Okay. Just say it. Oh, interrupting cow. Moo!
00:06:05
Speaker
Terrible kids joke, but my guess love it. Let's be a let's be a Canada thing Yeah, the the point is that like the surgeon mentality It's very easy to interrupt people while they're busy like while they're active and like You know head down like focused and I certainly get interrupted a lot here You know people like oh we go do this and I got a blah blah blah order this and buy this and can I do this? blah blah right when I'm trying to super duper focus and
00:06:35
Speaker
It's that whole interrupting cow thing. It's like it's like maybe just write it down and leave it on my desk You know like Kanban card kind of style Or you don't have to ask me four times in the same day to get that done like I'm on it, you know but Not only for my for myself but for everybody else here like when I can see people focusing I try not to bug them and I'm trying to make sure they they have the freedom they need to get it done and
00:07:02
Speaker
The lesson I've learned is don't assume that that necessarily fixes itself or improves without very specific and deliberate instruction from meaning. I'm making this up on the fly, but it could be keep a piece of paper with you, keep a running list every hour or two, we can meet up on it. If it's urgent, of course you can interrupt me.
00:07:23
Speaker
And if it's, you know, to pull in the Tony Ferris, is that his name? Tim Ferris. You know, if it's a decision that you think you can make on your own, make it. And by the way, when you come to me with a question, you're not coming to me with a question, you're coming to me with a proposed answer that I will then help affirm or shape that way you're learning on your own how to solve these in the future. That's a really good way to put it. I'm going to use that. Yep.
00:07:52
Speaker
Cause I don't, I, you know, especially when we see it with folks that are newer, newer to our shop, but then generally also just less experienced in life, whether they've worked less in the workforce or so forth, they, and sometimes ironically, it's the best people that want to, they care the most that want to ask the most questions, but that's ultimately makes that all the more important to start that.
00:08:15
Speaker
learning process. Exactly. Yeah, I really like that. And it's, it's delicate because I don't want to, um, I don't want to shun people off. You know, obviously I'm a helpful person. I want to like answer any question I can, but figure out a time and a place, you know, but that's also any time anywhere.
00:08:34
Speaker
John Grimsmough, the friendly Canadian, getting mixed in with the fact that you're a business owner and the boss. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's true. To be clear, this can also go horribly wrong in terms of imparting decision making process. We had an intern who, I give him credit, he took the lead, who kaizan foam a drawer of like miscellaneous sockets.
00:09:01
Speaker
And it's like a bolt cutter next to a strapping tool next to a piece of junk impact hammer that comes free with an air compressor next to a bunch of sockets. And it's like, that just has to get thrown away. Oh, too bad. In respect. Right. Yeah. I don't know if we're going to do that or not. I got to call back Jay Pearson. But if you want to do that lean gone wrong video, like lean fail, that was going to be one of my video snippets on that because it's kind of funny. Yeah, we could definitely do that.
Tornos Machine Arrival and Setup
00:09:33
Speaker
So tell me more about the lane, I mean this thing shows up, it's on a crate, I don't know, I'm fascinated by this. It's what you expected, it's not what surprised you.
00:09:41
Speaker
It fits exactly like I planned out, laid it out on the floor. At first it looks way bigger but then once everything gets kind of sorted and moved into the shop then it fits exactly like I envisioned. It does come on a huge pallet which is too heavy for two or three people to lift properly. Just the pallet? Just the pallet, just the base, yeah. Wow.
00:10:05
Speaker
So, and it came in a, let's see, it was wrapped, but the bar feeder came in its own kind of fully enclosed wooden pallet. And the pallet of the bar feeder must have been 14 feet long.
00:10:22
Speaker
for a six-foot bar feeder. Good grief. And I'm looking at it, and I'm like, that's not the 12-foot bar feeder, is it? Because that's not going to fit in here. That is not going to fit. And you do not own a bandsaw to trim it down the size. I do own a portable bandsaw now. OK. Yeah, so I was kind of freaking out there for a few minutes going, is this the 12-foot? And I looked at the inspection paperwork on the side of the crate, and I was like, OK, it says six or whatever.
00:10:52
Speaker
So eventually they crack it open. Elliot guys are here right now. Elliot guys are here. We're going to have a momentary pause while I'm going to talk about my love of laze.
Podcast Sponsorship Break
00:11:03
Speaker
Go for it bud. How's it going? Good, how you doing? Good, I'm just doing a podcast right now. You can poke around if you want. Alright. This is the one. Sounds good. Alright, Elliot guys, just going to poke around while we continue to banter.
00:11:19
Speaker
Today's episode of the Business of Machining is going to be shortened and is also sponsored by Tornos, the maker of some of the best Swiss lids out there. Do you have tooling yet?
Tooling Complexities for Tornos
00:11:31
Speaker
Do you have a plan of the first part?
00:11:33
Speaker
I do. Tooling is actually really kicking my butt because it's complicated. I want the lathe to do everything. I want it to basically make all of my parts, have it set up at all times. That's one of the reasons why I got the Tournos is because you can put a lot of tools on it. I'm picking away, like we talked about last week, about buying the tooling for it.
00:11:57
Speaker
I think I've got my list like 90% complete and I just need to basically finalize it and hit order with like next day shipping because
00:12:06
Speaker
it's probably going to be ready to start cutting in a couple days now. So I need to order the tooling, which is both the stick tools, the drill holders, et cetera, and collets. There's like a main collet, a sub collet, and a guide bushing in all sizes that I need. So I got to finalize that. And I'll just get it all from hard hinge or something with next day shipping.
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah, so it's funny again hilarious our stories of parallel I
Tool Setup for UMC
00:12:34
Speaker
went through this last week with the UMC where we're tooling up for like six different parts and jobs and I ended up placing I believe for Mari tool orders basically I would
00:12:46
Speaker
I would get and shout out to Mari tool it is free shipping so it makes it a little bit easier but normally I'm not like this but I found I have most of the parts cammed up but when I came up a part especially on a new machine I usually don't worry about the tool like foot length and the tool holder so I'll just say like hey we're gonna rough that out with a three-eighth inch head mill or you know whatever
00:13:10
Speaker
obviously on a five axis, the gauge length, the foot length, the reach, much more important. And so you have to just break it down. And I was really struggling to, you're going to laugh. I actually initially thought about trying to set up kind of like all the tools at once. And that's just such a, it's not a mistake. It's just, you can't do it. The library doesn't work that way. So it was actually wonderfully refreshing to where I wouldn't even set up the tools for the whole job, for the whole part. The part had,
00:13:37
Speaker
uh, 30 different cam ops with 10 different tools. When I'm proving out the program on the first time, uh, I would, okay. So now it's going to call up the new chamfer tool that's got a six inch stick out or gauge link or whatever. Well, okay. First time I'm using that, I'll set up that tool. I'll measure the flute stick out. I'll double check it in the true path. I'll, uh, touch it off again. I'll be there with the sort of feed rates. And then you just kind of do it one at a time. And what ended up happening was I would get in some Mari tool holders.
00:14:05
Speaker
set up the tools, run a few of the ops, and then I'd realize, okay, well, now I need these more holed up. I did that four times. And it did take me now a week, and I perhaps was less efficient, but boy, it felt right. It felt good to do it that way. I can see that because you were slow, you were methodical. You had the time to like, it's not like you needed the machine to be, you know, spitting out production parts tomorrow.
00:14:45
Speaker
I didn't, I mean, each of those market orders is probably between 600 and 1000 bucks. So it wasn't like I was buying one holder. I don't know what the parallel is for you, except maybe you just say, hey, let's pick up, I know I need these six core tools and this college stuff, like all that stuff. And then as you need more, just buy it. And so at the end of the day, if you've spent an extra $200 on shipping because you ordered it across three orders, whatever, who cares? Not the worst thing.
00:14:54
Speaker
I like that plan.
00:15:12
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely see that happening. I'll order everything I think I need right now, and then I know I'll need another order in a week or two, but that's okay. Let's make it happen. Yep. I had a funny one too. I don't know if we talked about this last week.
Managing Tool Size Limitations
00:15:30
Speaker
Have you ever had to use a tool in your lathe turret or more likely your mill that was not compatible with the turret rotating or your tool changer accepting the tool?
00:15:43
Speaker
What do you mean? Well, too, too large in diameter or too long in length? Um, no, I don't think I ever have cause I make tiny stuff, but I've, I've worried about it. Like in my lathe, if I have on the sub spindle side, if I have a long drill pointing out, that's like five inches long, it'll hit where the turn rotates. Like it'll, it'll break. So have you ever tried to, have you ever had to do anything with that? No, I never have. I've gotten close. I've gotten close, but.
00:16:10
Speaker
That, actually, on the lathe side, that sounds like an awesome use for cap toe, because I feel like you could pop it in, do the op, and then just pull it out, and it would repeat and all that. Yeah, you could, yeah. We're doing a really long drill. It's a 16-inch overall length to do a 12-inch or 11- and 3-eighths-inch drill depth, and it's too long for the Haas ATC, and I was freaking out because I was trying to figure out
00:16:35
Speaker
What did I originally looking for? I was originally looking for effectively the wrong search phrase. I was looking for...
00:16:44
Speaker
like how to use a Haas machine without the tool changer or something like wrong. And then I just realized there's actually a parameter to disable the ATC, which then basically says load this next tool. Because I was like, I know if I don't do that from a process flyability standpoint, I know I'm just going to hit T4 MDI ATC forward, because I'm going to want to probe it in or check something. And it's going to start lifting that tool up, and then it's game over. Yeah. Have you ever reset the machine during a tool change? Oh, yeah.
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah. Is it easy to recover or hard? I have never had an issue. The Haas recovery has been phenomenal. Okay. But you do have to recover it. Like there's a process. Yep. You just hit a button. It walks you through. It's got graphics. It is. I've heard some horror stories and I don't know if they were Haas specific, but no, it's been great.
00:17:34
Speaker
So on the FANUC, I actually printed out a label printer label above the reset button that says never reset during tool change. And then maintenance book page 232 or whatever it is because it's complicated. And in the instruction manual, it doesn't actually tell you the hidden parameter you need to get this disabled. Welcome to FANUC. Exactly. Welcome to FANUC and DMG Mori. So the first time it happened, it's probably happened six, seven times over the past four years.
00:18:03
Speaker
I had to call DMG Mori and be like, how do I do this? And they're like, oh, you have to do, um, setting a hundred or 99 or something weird like that. And I'm like, that's not anywhere. So I wrote it in the manual on page two 32. And, uh, and then there's graphics and like, it's pretty straightforward, but there's like this stupid hidden menu that like, what the heck, that doesn't make it easy. My mother taught me as a kid, when you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
00:18:32
Speaker
I love the hot view. Do you guys have tap recovery? I Don't know we I don't know what happened we stopped it or we lost power or something while the tap was in the heart So you think about it? You're you're screwed
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah. Nope. And I don't know if other machine tap this, but this was freaking cool. And I give a shout out to Haas cause this works. You hit tap recovery mode. It knows the pitch, uh, pitch of the tap and you start jogging up in Z and as you jog up in Z it rotates a spindle pursuant to the pitch. And we have done it a couple of times and it does not break the tap. That's you've done a couple of times. That's cool. It's, it's like mind blowing the awesome. Yeah.
00:19:15
Speaker
I mean, when you think about it, it's relatively simple, but it's still awesome to see like, you know, like it actually does it without breaking the towel. Yeah. That's sick. Yeah.
Daily Priorities and Projects
00:19:27
Speaker
What are you up to today other than the Elliott guys?
00:19:32
Speaker
So, L&S guys are here. I got some paperwork to do. I got to order those tooling. Those are my key priorities. We're making screws, knife screws on the Nakamura. Making inlays, carbon fiber inlays, and possibly mother of pearl inlays if I can have time to do that on the Maury.
00:19:53
Speaker
Um, we got a shape Oco a couple of weeks ago that we still haven't put together. The skies is slowly putting that together. So that hopefully going to make inlays or certainly carrier rings for the lapping machine. And then lots of other little stuff coming up, probably film everything. Carrier rings made out of material. G10. Ah, got it. Okay. Really? They, they're G10 because you're a knife maker or they're G10 for everybody.
00:20:17
Speaker
They're always G10, yeah? When we got the machine, it came with a stack of G10 raw inserts. That's really funny. Carrier rings, yeah. And this guy keeps exploding them. They get thinner because they're wearing down with abrasive and thinner and thinner. And then a blade pops out, and then one pod is like toast. So he's working on fixing that. Got it. But yeah, so he's like, now I can only run eight blades. Now I can only run seven blades. Now I can only run six blades.
00:20:48
Speaker
Yeah, so he needs to happen inventory them then Yeah, well once we have like they were annoying and time-consuming to make on the mori just because of setups and like coolant and You know, we needed to make knives. So once we have the shape oko going like he can make as many as he wants sweet It's gonna be sweet. I did. Uh, did you see that?
Workflow Automation with JITbit
00:21:10
Speaker
Jit bit video I put on the whatsapp chat this weekend I think I like sent it to Phil. No, I
00:21:18
Speaker
dislike the mental and physical requirements of doing repetition work. So basically posting out from Fusion. So basically I have a tool path ready to go on Fusion to the U.
00:21:32
Speaker
I didn't actually watch it, but I should have, because I was curious about it. It is amazing. It's one of the coolest things I've ever done. It's just like a little hack. And it's this software called JITbit. It's basically screen automation software. So you can program it what to click and where to click. And it can open windows and close things. And it can even do, what's cool is you can do screen recognition. So you can program it with absolute coordinates of your mouse, relative coordinates of the mouse. Or you can say, find this image on the screen and click on it.
00:22:01
Speaker
You good? I still want to mess up your sound there. Yeah, I'm still recording, but we're good. That's okay, man. You can work.
00:22:10
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to write that down. JIT bit, J-I-T-B-I-T. It is, you can get it free for like a month, but then you got to pay 40 bucks for it. I have no problem paying for it. And so basically I click on the setup I want to post and then I hit the JIT bit play button, which can be a keyboard shortcut. And it does a bunch of things. It opens up the windows folder I created for my Camplete dump files. So all the files I could post out of Cam.
00:22:36
Speaker
from Fusion that are the APT files and the stock and the fixtures and the tooling that go in the TruePath. It deletes all those, then it posts it, and what I mean by post it is it opens up the Fusion post processor, it selects the complete post, because sometimes I have different posts from prior things done, posts it, and then opens up TruePath, clicks the import button, goes through the wizard itself, picks the files, has a program to
00:23:04
Speaker
delay to wait for TruePath to process those files, then finally it hides the machine enclosure because I don't like to see the UMC machine enclosure at my first view. I want to see the thing. So for me, that's a huge win because I'll post a program of 20,
Using Fusion 360 for Precision
00:23:23
Speaker
30 times a day. And otherwise, I didn't count the clicks, but it's probably 20 or 30 clicks.
00:23:29
Speaker
Go watch the video. So I will. Obviously you're going to do like a YouTube video. Yes. I think I'm going to throw up on Instagram today and then we're doing a like a fifth axis getting started video. Like I've recorded half of it where we're showing kind of the workflows that we've learned, which I'm actually really proud of. I think they're actually pretty, pretty good.
00:23:51
Speaker
Nice. So maybe you said it, but I missed it. How do you initiate this when you first post something? You can use a keyboard shortcut, or if you have a JIT bit open, you just hit play. OK. But it's still a manual initiation. Versus what? I don't know. I'm not sure I follow. I don't know. Like, the second you hit post, it automatically knows it has to do this. Yeah.
00:24:14
Speaker
I don't know if you want that. No, yeah, I wouldn't want that. I just click on, because I basically click on the set up in Fusion, and then let's say I hit, let's say I hit Control-Alt-G or something, and then that'll just automatically start this. It does take maybe, the whole thing probably takes 45 seconds. I could speed that up a little, but I care less about the time and more about the fact that I want to run these, I want to run the toolpaths through TruePath, and there's an import that's just, I want to make that automated.
00:24:44
Speaker
Done. I freaking love it. It's like when you hit generate and you have to sit there and wait for however long it takes. You just do something else or you just sit there and watch it. This is kind of the same concept. It feels like I'm winning, which is good. Yeah, right. I like that.
00:25:04
Speaker
The other thing I learned, embarrassed to admit, I'd heard about this, had kind of forgotten to follow up on it. You know Fusion 360 has a effectively stock, remaining stock mode, or visibility in the simulation to show you what hasn't been machined? Uh...
00:25:27
Speaker
Okay, so if you if you have a Norseman handle and you program a brand new one up and you're like What did I did the tool get into that corner? Did I surface all the way down to the actual solid model or am I leaving stock in certain areas or did I gouge the model? you know, did you because you can do a Stock view but it doesn't compare the stock to the solid model. That's I guess what I'm saying as a comparison of your cut to the solid That makes sense. Okay
00:25:54
Speaker
So if I'm in simulate, yes, you go to simulate. Oh, comparison under. Yeah, so you look it's weird. It's under the colorization is comparison. And it will give you know, you have to turn off the this is my criticism of this, you have to turn off the solid model light bulb so that you don't have it the top one.
00:26:15
Speaker
Well, yeah. And then if you, for instance, if you gouge, let's say you take a 2D contour that just blows through your knife handle, that will show up as red quite visibly. And likewise, if you haven't, let's say you accidentally left 10,000 stock to leave on a whole surface, it will show that in a different color as well. Interesting.
00:26:34
Speaker
I'll have to play with that. I'm looking at it now. On this toolpath, it's fine. So there's nothing showing. When you play with the tolerance, you can set the tolerance. Oh, I see that. How much do you care? Stock to leave and tolerance. Interesting. OK, cool. Yeah, every time I simulate, I basically always hide the model, all of it, especially with my big fixture, because there's so many parts on it.
00:27:01
Speaker
Hiding everything just shows the stock for that operation basically, and it looks great. That's my PSA for the day. Yeah, I love it.
Five-Axis UMC Capabilities
00:27:13
Speaker
Well, let's call it an early podcast, because you got late guys to do work, huh? I do, yeah. Got some fun stuff happening. I will say it again, though. We were in training classes right now, and some of the students were hanging out looking at the UMC, and I'm just like,
00:27:30
Speaker
I don't know how to say this because it's not like I waited to get into having a five axis machine, but I will now that I have it, I am glad I did not wait another six hours. Sorry. I don't mean to say this in a way that's pressuring you. That's not, no, no, no, John, but, Oh, but you're happy. You're, you're, you're glad with the decision. I get it. Yes. It is a breath of fresh air. It is just so much fun. And I love it. Love it. Love it.
00:27:58
Speaker
so amazing to hear. I actually told that to Meg the other day and she goes, really? Wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Future Plans for Tornos Lathe
00:28:08
Speaker
Well, good luck on the tornos. I can't wait to talk next week and see how it's at the bar feeder on the left. Oh, that's fun. I guess I thought for some reason the bar feeder was going to the
00:28:19
Speaker
Well, is it mirror image? Oh, that's what it is. It's weird backwards? Okay. Oh, that's super trippy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So this one's set up like a standard lathe where the bar feeder would be on the left of the machine when you're facing it. Whereas a citizen is backwards. So literally one of the reasons I didn't get a citizen is because it's backwards. Like Z minus to cut into the part or Z plus, like it's just backwards.
00:28:44
Speaker
I remember that now that you said it because Nicholas Hakko had that R04 and the bar feeder was on the right, feeding left, and the parts came out all the way on the left. Weird. Yeah, it's just different. I mean, it's fine if you're used to it, but yeah. Sweet. So yeah, I'm excited. It could be a good day. Cool. I'll talk to you next week. See you later. All right, sounds good. Bye. Bye.