Can cold plunges and clear values make you a better cybersecurity leader? In this introspective and energetic episode from IT Nation Secure 2025, Joey Pinz speaks with Joel Cahill—Wall Street veteran, father, and founder of Infima—to explore personal growth, MSP success, and how simplicity and service win in cybersecurity.
💬 Joel shares insights from his journey: from trading currency to raising awareness—both in security and fatherhood. He reflects on how wake surfing with his son fuels joy, how his own weight loss journey mirrors business discipline, and how cold exposure widens the threshold for stress—personally and professionally.
🔐 On the business side, Joel breaks down what MSPs should really ask when evaluating security awareness tools. He emphasizes automation that works, the silent power of generosity, and the need for vendors to deliver on their promises—because in the MSP world, trust is currency.
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