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#150: Matt Cooke on True Manifestation - Why Wanting Isn’t Enough (and What Actually Works)
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In this episode, I am joined by Matt Cooke - international speaker, author of Beyond Wanting, and manifestation coach - for an honest conversation about what manifestation actually is (and what it isn’t).
Rather than “wish it and wait,” Matt breaks down why true manifestation starts with who you’re being, not just what you want. Drawing on both science and spirituality, he shares how slowing down the nervous system, regulating the mind, and reconnecting with yourself can completely change how you create change in your life. Matt also opens up about his own journey - from a high-pressure corporate career to a more aligned, authentic way of living - including a deeply personal experience that reshaped his understanding of intuition, trust, and purpose.
We cover:
- Why wanting something isn’t enough to create real change
- The role of the nervous system, energy, and mindset in manifestation
- How to quiet the mind and reconnect with intuition
- The balance between ambition, gratitude, and surrender
- Simple, practical tools you can try - without overwhelm
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00: Introduction: what conscious creation really means
00:22: Meeting Matt Cook
02:37: From corporate life to conscious living
05:32: A personal turning point and deep intuition
08:31: Energy, frequency & awareness (without the fluff)
11:35: Ego, identity, and the role of the “I”
19:49: Manifestation: science, spirituality, and reality
32:33: Practical ways to slow the mind
33:31: Kinetic meditation & visualisation
36:26: Journaling, grounding, and everyday practices
38:10: Learning to trust yourself
46:59: Balancing gratitude with goals
51:22: Authenticity and sustainable manifestation
01:00:22: Final reflections
Links & Resources:
- Connect with me on Instagram here
- Learn more about KHH coaching here
- Connect with Matt on Instagram here
If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with friends who might benefit. For more health and fitness tips, follow me on Instagram and TikTok @katehamiltonhealth.
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Transcript
00:00:00
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There is more to life than meets the eye. I've just spoken to my mother who passed away 18 months ago. i know people have got that key within them to become conscious creators and create any life they desire.
00:00:12
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Why don't all these manifestation teachers manifest winning the lottery? I realise it's not about faking it. It's actually about feeling it till you make it.
Introduction to Matt Cook and Manifestation
00:00:22
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Welcome back to another episode of the Kate Hamilton Health Podcast.
00:00:27
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In today's episode, I sit down with Matt Cook and you are in for a treat. This was the most fabulous episode, the most fabulous conversation, and I cannot wait to share it with you. Matt is an international speaker and a manifestation coach.
00:00:42
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And he is author of the new book, Beyond Wanting, The Art of True Manifestation. With over 700,000 followers across social media, Matt bridges science and spirituality, blending quantum theory, neuroscience and ancient wisdom to help people transform from the
Core Philosophy of Manifestation
00:00:59
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inside out. At the core of his philosophy is one powerful idea. You don't manifest what you want. You manifest who you are being.
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Matt reminds us that the true miracle of manifestation isn't in getting what you want. It's about becoming the version of yourself that no longer needs to chase it. This is what we talk about in our conversation, and I hope you enjoy it just as much as I did.
00:01:24
Speaker
Matt, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. I'm so excited to chat to you about this book because your new book, Beyond Wanting, it was only released last week, was it?
00:01:37
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Yes, the 11th of November. 11-11. 11-11. And I've been listening to you. So you've been in my ear for the past week. I have so many questions. So, so many questions and probably very basic ones. But I think everyone will everyone always appreciates my basic questions.
00:01:52
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Well, look, that's my motto to keep it simple. So i'm I'm happy to answer any basic questions you've got and dive in as deep as you want to go. And this is what I love about you. And we were talking about this before we started is that you have a really great gift at taking complicated concepts and making them easy to understand for everyone.
00:02:14
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Yeah. Tell me, what is your mission? To help people create their best life. It's that simple. Yeah. It really is that simple. I know people have got that key within them to to become conscious creators and create any life they desire.
00:02:31
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And that's my mission, to help millions of people from around the world remember that truth. Amazing.
Journey from Real Estate to Self-Discovery
00:02:37
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What's the story behind that?
00:02:40
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Oh. I was, as people will read in chapter one, I was in property ah for about nearly 10 years, real estate.
00:02:51
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And in September 2018, I was really struggling at the time. I had a really tight chest. I was struggling to breathe and i was under a lot of corporate stress. I'm sure a lot of people can resonate with that feeling and desperate for some relief.
00:03:09
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My wife's grandmother suggested some reflexology and what i I went along because I was desperate for it and what I thought would be a simple sort of foot massage ended up changing my entire life. As I was sat there on on the sort of the chair, if you like, the therapist asked me a question. He didn't know me. I didn't know him.
00:03:29
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And he just said, so Matt, tell me who you are. And in that moment, I said, well, Matt, I'm 26 years old. I'm the youngest manager in this firm of estate agents. Started to list off my achievements. And he said, no, I didn't ask you what you you do for a living. I asked i asked you who you are.
00:03:46
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And I didn't know who ah who I was. i really i remember in that moment realizing that there was someone else behind that shell, this corporate armor, this corporate shell that I was sort of wearing and identifying with.
00:03:58
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And that immediate realization led me down this path. I was desperate initially to understand the eye in all of this and understand that the shell, the ego, the identity as the estate agent wasn't happy.
00:04:12
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And I needed to try and release the eye, the free, whoever the awareness was inside that was stuck. I needed to understand and discover who, who that was. And that led me on this journey of trying to figure that out and watching various, you know, spiritual podcasts and motivational podcasts. And then as people will read, it led me to an experience in 2019 where i connected with my mom.
00:04:36
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And that blew me wide open to to this world that we're now in. And it from that moment, really, it's it's it's just triggered this light within me to help people find that same truth, that same awareness that, and we'll talk about this, that, you know, the science that I've now discovered through the art of manifestation and energy, we all have that within us. We all have the power to align ourselves to our highest potential and our best lives. And that's that's what I'm about. That's where it started.
00:05:04
Speaker
Yeah. And ah yeah i obviously I listened to to this story in your book when you connected with your mum, just to clarify, your mum passed away a few years ago. Isn't that correct? Yeah.
00:05:15
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Yeah. She passed away in 2017. And this experience that you had connecting with her was completely out of the blue. Yeah.
Connecting with the Deceased and Energy Exploration
00:05:24
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I'm happy to share exactly what happened and, and you know, how it got me here. Yeah, please, if that's OK with you.
00:05:31
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course. So February 2019. So we're talking about six months after this reflexology session that I had. And I'm lying in bed. It's a typical sort of Tuesday evening.
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My wife and I are watching Netflix and I decided to roll over and go to sleep. And as I did that, my wife carried on watching the show.
00:05:55
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I was still aware of the world around me. And out of nowhere, a very bizarre feeling started to spread across my entire body, starting at the base of my feet, slowly encompassing my whole body. And it was ah a really intense vibration.
00:06:09
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And it got so extreme. i remember sort of saying to myself, but itt it's not painful, so let's at least allow it to continue. And it genuinely felt like I was like almost hovering above the bed, which for me was so out there, you know, being in real estate, not being spiritual at all.
00:06:26
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I allowed it to continue and I heard a high pitch ring in my ears and then it went silent and I heard a voice and the voice, which sounded like it was coming from the opposite end of a sports hall, getting closer and closer, said, Matt, it's mum. Can you hear me?
00:06:40
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And it blew me away. Kate, there's no other way to to describe that moment. It completely blew me wide open. We exchanged a few words and then my wife, who was still awake, nudged me. I was still awake, by the way. ah She nudged me and she asked, Matt, who who are you talking to? And as I turned to tell my wife, Coruscant, and then turned back, my mum had gone. And that there was this massive realisation that there is more to life than meets the eye. I've just spoken to my mother who passed away 18 months ago. So my initial want, Kate, was to try and reconnect with her. I didn't even understand manifestation at this point. I didn't know i didn't even know that existed. If someone had said to me then, oh by the way, um you can you can have anything you want. All you've got to do is think it. I would have laughed them out the room. There is no way I would have believed that coming from that corporate background.
00:07:30
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But connecting with my mom was exactly what I needed because it then sent me down this path of initially trying to figure out where she is, how I can connect with her again. And then that led me down this this path of energy, which we can talk about, which is when I then found manifestation.
00:07:48
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Yeah, no, it's an absolutely fascinating story. And like I can see, I can like completely understand why this would be totally life-changing for you as well, like on top of the experience that you've had at this reflexology session as well. In relation to, i feel like we're going to dive straight into this. and Sure. You know, I think like people...
00:08:08
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Bear with us, OK, if this sounds a little woo woo initially, Matt is going to talk to us about the science of this as well. And we will bring this towards, you know, goal setting and manifestation
Frequency Tuning and Manifestation
00:08:18
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as well. But in relation to when you connected with your mother here, you describe it in the book very much as tuning into a frequency like a radio station.
00:08:26
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Could you talk to us a little bit more about that? Yeah, absolutely. So if you imagine, okay, when you're about to tune into a to any radio station, yeah?
00:08:40
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You initially there's like crackling, isn't there? There's like ah there's like a white noise. And then all of a sudden when you land on that station, it's clear, crisp, you're on it. But initially before you're on it or if you decide to go off it, it's crackly. And that's exactly what was happening to me when when my body was vibrating. It was it was literally that it was tuning in. And the reason I know that, as I mentioned in the book, is because I've got many medium friends who've now told me, Matt, the reason we're called mediums is because we help people connect in the middle.
00:09:10
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So what I did unconsciously, but I now know how I did it, because remember, I didn't try or want for this to happen. It just happened. That vibration lifted my frequency and my mum lowered hers.
00:09:22
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And that would have taken a lot for her to have done that. And then we met on this on this frequency. no when When those frequencies aligned, I picked up a her signal, her information, she picked up mine, and that's that's how how we're able to to to connect.
00:09:36
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And the reason I know that, and we can talk about this, is scientifically everything is energy, Kate. And energy is never still. It's always in a state of movement. And that movement vibrates, right? And there's different movements and different vibrations. And that vibration is known as frequency. And we all know there's different frequencies. you can You can be on one Zoom call with one person, yet there's millions of other Zoom calls happening around the world. And that's because you're on one specific movement of energy, which is frequency. And all frequency carries information. So if you align to the exact vibrational frequency of something, you're going in to pick up the information.
00:10:13
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So that is how how it happened with my mum. Now, for years, Kate, I didn't know how it happened. Now I do. The six months before of the reflexology session, which was my initial awakening, if you like, the initial sort of questioning of who I was, and the sort of like trying to figure this out, watching some motivational content, some spiritual teachers,
00:10:37
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was actually unconsciously raising my vibration and my frequency. And it was easier for my mum to connect. The reason she hasn't connected with my brothers is because my brothers aren't in this world, you know? So that is that is exactly what I mean in that book.
00:10:53
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that is how it That is how it works. And then we can dive into this in terms of what manifestation is. But when I started to discover the concepts of manifestation, for me, it was a no-brainer because I understood it from the con context that I've just explained to you that it's tuning in, just like tuning into a radio.
00:11:08
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Yeah, it's just it's so fascinating and, you know, it's it's so mind blowing and quite difficult to understand for most of us that I think we'll kind of direct this a little bit towards, I suppose, towards manifestation as well in relation to energy. So like when you're talking about, you know, that you were vibrating at a higher energy and that made it easier to be able to connect.
00:11:31
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that energy, like we we we all have that potential inside us, don't we? This is the I that you were talking about. that And this is actually the first time I came into contact with this concept was when I read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. I don't know how to pronounce it. Tolle. life changing book. i I started reading it years ago and I had to stop because I wasn't ready for it. I was like, no, it's freaking me out. It's freaking me I had to stop. But I went back and I read it and it really is life changing. And that concept of the eye that we talk about, you know, I feel this way or I like it was my first time to really think that there is a difference between the ego, who you show up as in the world and the the real you.
00:12:19
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do you want to talk a little
Self-Awareness and Identity
00:12:20
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bit more about that? Because you're going to do a lot better than me. And that's really powerful. And before we even get into manifestation, the way i explain scientifically how it works and what it is, we need to start with that I. So we're all aware of this voice in our head that's often sometimes quite negative and self-critical.
00:12:38
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If we're aware of the voice in our head, who's the one listening? Right? Right. And I always do at any talk I do around the world, I always do a very simple exercise. And I'd love people to do this now when we're together. Maybe maybe not if they're driving, but they can at least think it through.
00:12:54
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I always say to people, and Kate, do do the same with me now. If you just close your eyes and just inside your head, not out loud, just say the word hello five times inside your head.
00:13:08
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And once you've done that, i want you to do it again inside your head. But this time i want you to shout the word hello five times in your head.
00:13:19
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And Kate, you can open your eyes and anyone else listening. What did you experience? Did you hear the word hello? Did you see the word hello? What did you experience there? I could hear like an echoing of my own voice in my head.
00:13:32
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Great. So who heard it? Me. And who's me? Kate. Kate was the name you were given when you were born, though. Yeah. See what I mean? say say Sorry, I had to do this with everyone. The truth is, yeah, me, what is me? Well, me is the the awareness.
00:13:56
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Me is the one that was aware of the echo of hello. So the awareness has a different name. You could call it awareness you could call it the eye, you could call it the witness, the watcher, the consciousness, the universe.
00:14:17
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You could call it anything, but I call it the observer. It's the same concept of a so a soul as well then, is it? if Soul, yeah. It's not the program. It's not the voice in the head.
00:14:29
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There is separation between those two things. Can I just stop you there to ask a question? Okay, so when we're born, we are pure consciousness. We're pure awareness. We are just this...
00:14:41
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energy. That. we're We're that. Like, you know, we look at it like, you know, we both have kids. You know, when when when you' have a small baby and their arms are just and legs are just like kicking all over the place. They don't know who they are. They don't realise their hand belongs to them. They don't respond to a name. That's pure consciousness, isn't it? And what we do is we can condition ourselves. and You can correct me if I'm wrong. We condition ourselves through society, our parents, our teachers, everyone, we build this persona, that ah this Kate. I become Kate because someone gave me that name and I learn as I get older what's what's appropriate, how it's appropriate to behave, how Kate should be, what Kate should what Kate likes, what she doesn't like.
00:15:20
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And it builds a person. And the more we the more ego that we build, the further away we get from our true selves. Am I correct? Absolutely. Yeah, you've got you've created um a model and an identity called Kate, haven't you, that's been built from her conditioning and her upbringing. Actually, there was a baby that was an interesting point because they they haven't really got an identity, have they, at that point? Because that they are they're building that. So actually, the reason that's such a great point is my son's now one.
00:15:48
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And as soon as he was born, i so for the first few weeks, i was staring into his eyes and I could see his soul. stuck in a baby's body.
00:16:01
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Yeah. So the baby's body is so moving around like an animal because we are animals, animals aren't we? You know, and it's it's moving around. It's like following s sense and whatever else it's like trying his hardest to wiggle around and move and it can't. And, and it, and it's stuck, you know? So the, the awareness of the awareness of Humphrey was there, but of course he's the, the soul is, is built within this body. Yeah.
00:16:26
Speaker
So, of course, then the body sort of develops and learns. and and then And then what happens is you've built this model called Kate or this model called Matt that has an identity and a personality and beliefs through upbringing.
00:16:39
Speaker
But what happens with most people, Kate, is that the soul... is sort of pushed to one side and they don't realise that there's the awareness. They think they are this paradigm and this programme.
00:16:52
Speaker
you know but But we're not. there's there's always two separate there's always There's two separate parts. I think ah another way of looking at it, you know the simulation hypothesis is a big thing in the world right now that maybe we're living in like a video game. Let's just put that to one side, but let's just take one context from it.
00:17:08
Speaker
Which is if you imagine playing a video game, you have an avatar, don't you? Like if you've played The Sims or Grand Theft Auto or anything, you've got this like little avatar.
00:17:18
Speaker
And this little avatar, this little figure, has a, you know, a personality. It has a house. It has. But then ah who's playing it?
00:17:29
Speaker
And the the person playing it is the player. and you could and I mean, I try and see it like that. the The person playing the avatar is the soul. And then the avatar is like the personality.
00:17:40
Speaker
You know, so that that's how we can try and see it in a sense that it's two separate things. But a lot of the time we forget. Yeah, that makes sense. And the avatar sometimes runs away with itself a little bit, doesn't it? Like I find, you know, like my background is in education. So like when we were in college and we learned a lot about, you know, early childhood education and how those formative, you know, those first eight years were like sponges we take in. That's when most of us have actually built our identity by the age of eight, which is really, really scary. It's funny because now I'm like, I'll be 40 next year. So as I'm getting older, I'm kind of learning. And as I read more on this topic, I'm like, I started as a child, innocent. As you get older, you build this ego to survive in the world and to find your way. And I find now I'm starting to come back around to and connecting back with eight old Kate.
00:18:28
Speaker
in a really weird way. It's like, you know, the ego that you build up in your teenage years and your 20s as you're, you know, trying to fit in, you're trying to qualify, you're trying to climb the ladder and then suddenly you get to about 40 and well, everyone's age age different and it's just like, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
00:18:43
Speaker
I just want to be me again. just want to be me again. And I feel like now I'm on that journey and it's so incredibly empowering. And that awareness, that sort of eight-year-old Kate is only really seeking one thing, and that's expansion and freedom.
00:18:59
Speaker
Liberation, adventure, travel, like happiness, joy, peace. The opposite of what it seeks is contraction. So a lot of the time, you know like me when I was back in real estate,
00:19:11
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You know, the the the awareness in me felt stuck, felt contracted, and it's always seeking freedom and liberation. But yeah, you're right. You know, for the first seven, eight years, on average, a child's only in their subconscious. So, you know, they're they're a sponge to their external world. They're they're being downloaded.
00:19:25
Speaker
But the great thing is with neuroscience, neuroplasticity, is we can we can rewire that part of ourselves at any age. They used to think that the brain was primarily fixed by like 21. But now at any age, it doesn't matter what your ego is and what your belief system is, that can be changed. And I think this is a really important segue to go into because ah by the age of 35, neuroscience now tells us that 95% of who we are is subconsciously programmed.
00:19:49
Speaker
So everyone listening to this, maybe there's some people listening that don't understand what the word manifestation truly means, which is the deliberate act of bringing something that you desire into the physical world using thoughts, feelings and actions. But people can have a conscious desire for something, such as a relationship, more money, healing, a house, whatever that desire is, but it's actually only coming from 5% conscious awareness.
00:20:19
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00:21:09
Speaker
Do it now because nothing changes until you do. And the problem with our subconscious minds until we like, i know when we'll talk about how how we can work on this, but isn't the problem with our subconscious minds is the fears, the limiting beliefs, the things that we,
00:21:24
Speaker
Yeah, that we've programmed or that, you know, have been programmed in us that we aren't even aware of that's blocking us that we need to start challenging and and working through. Yes, yes, absolutely. And I think actually, interestingly, you know, i think if everyone thinks now of a conscious desire that they have, I think they should just ask themselves, do I believe it?
00:21:47
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Do I believe that this desire can happen to someone like me? and And this is a time to be honest, because if if you don't, then it's showing you what you've got to work on straight away. Yeah. And I actually, my publisher, Penguin Random House, asked me to pitch an article to the New York Times.
00:22:07
Speaker
And I said, dream smaller to manifest faster. Because in the world we live in, we're all told to dream really big. And actually, as people were reading beyond wanting, the further out your desire, the objective, the bigger the want, the bigger the lack and the bigger the separation.
00:22:27
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And actually how I've manifested everything up until now. is by getting clear on the bigger desire and simply reverse engineering it down to smaller manifestations that I'm still not controlling, but feel closer, but feel more believable.
00:22:44
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and and And even if they highlight what I've got to work on, great, I can work on that. So for me, manifestation is a sequential process. It doesn't have to be like, I'm here now and this is my big vision because people can feel stuck. They can feel like they're not making progress if they live in that separation.
00:23:00
Speaker
There's so much I want to unpack with this. OK, so first of all, yeah, like with the manifest, like manifesting, you know, bringing something into your life that you want, whether it is yeah like a baby, more money, your dream house, change a career, like whatever it is that you're like freedom of any sort, whatever it is.
00:23:15
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I definitely believe that we should dream big. But like what you said, like it's not fixating on the big dream because It is. It creates that gap, doesn't it? Like that, oh, I don't have this. i don't Like it's just something that you want, which is literally the title of your book, Beyond Wanting. So the wanting actually...
00:23:35
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blocks us because it's it's like it's something outside of us when actually it's what's inside us that is most important. And what I've and I kind of manifested by accident, like i I had started reading personal development. I moved from a career in teaching into becoming a personal training trainer, took a little step back on it in income, you know, worked my way up in a new industry. But I did it all just by following my gut feeling. I just got to a stage where I was like,
00:24:03
Speaker
I'm done trying so hard. I'm done trying to be who I think I should be, who I think other people should think I should be. And I just kind of let go. And I was like, what do I want? And then I was like, and what do I not want? I was like, I don't want to teach anymore.
00:24:18
Speaker
What do I want? I want to be in the gym all the time. I want to, you know, and I just kind of and I made really crazy decisions and people, I think, like, especially my parents, I think they I was having like an early midlife crisis or something. But It's literally how I have managed to manifest anything is by just being like, this feels right. I'm going to do this. Doesn't make really make sense right now, but I'm going to do it. I'll figure it out as I go along. And the next step will unfold after that.
00:24:45
Speaker
I don't have to have it all figured out. Right. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. that That makes a lot of sense to me. Look, we all want things in life. Wanting is an obvious place to start. But what does the word want mean?
00:25:00
Speaker
Want means, if we look in the dictionary, lack. Want means we haven't got anything. Now, the reason that's really important is because we need to understand how manifestation actually works.
00:25:13
Speaker
And then the the the title of my book makes more sense. So what I say is we want once and then we have have have have have, have, have, have. And what I mean by that is we just keep practicing the energy of having.
00:25:26
Speaker
So. I mentioned earlier that everything's energy. That's a scientific fact. If you break down anything to its purest, purest form, this microphone, the table, the human body, we go all the way down to these atoms, which are the building blocks of all things physical.
00:25:45
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We go down one more time, we get to the subatomic level, which are these tiny, tiny particles called electrons. Stick with me. And then we say, okay, if we break down the electron again, now we're at the very base of reality.
00:26:00
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Where do they come from? And if you break down the subatomic level, they disappear. They merge back with where they're from.
00:26:12
Speaker
And where they're from, if you were to break down an electron, they're from unifying fields of energy, quantum fields of infinite energy.
00:26:23
Speaker
Now, if something's infinite, then it means anything there is possible and then anything exists. So the question is then, okay okay, if everything physical derives from this field of energy, and it's important to know that that field of energy is also known as a wave, and all things physical in our material world are known as the particle.
00:26:43
Speaker
So we're living in a particle-based reality, but we're from an energetic field, a wave of energy. How does it turn from energy to the particle? How does it turn from energy to matter?
00:26:56
Speaker
Well, if we study quantum mechanics, there's a famous experiment called the double slit experiment. It's also known as collapse of the wave function. And this field of energy, which is also known as the wave, turns from being energy to matter through one thing.
00:27:13
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And it's the most powerful word that exists. We've already spoken about it. And that word is observation. Observation. When a scientist is is observing this field, the wave of energy collapses into the electron.
00:27:29
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The moment they take their observation away and move somewhere else, this electron disappears, merges back with the field, and wherever that observation is moved to, the energy instantaneously collapses back into that particle.
00:27:42
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And this is done through ah cameras as well. Wherever observation is dictates when that energy collapses into matter. That is manifestation.
00:27:52
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So it's like focus. Sorry to interrupt, but like kind of like, yeah, you think of it like a camera, like focus. Focus. Yeah. Okay. Attention, observation.
Embodying Desires for Manifestation
00:28:01
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Yeah. But Kate, good good train good trail of thought.
00:28:05
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whereas Where is most people's attention? In what they don't have. Exactly. What they lack, what their negative voice is in their head, what people have said about them, what they believe to be true about themselves.
00:28:20
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So then what would that mean? That would then surely mean that do those people continue to experience more of those things in their life? Well, we tend to see it, don't we? We tend to see people say, i just keep running into the same problems. I keep meeting the same people. And it's because they're unconsciously manifesting. They're unconsciously collapsing that wave.
00:28:44
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The moment someone's attention is taken off what they don't have, off what they believe to be true about themselves, off that negative voice in their head, and they focus on possibility, they focus on a feeling, they focus on visualizing what they see because if it's already done,
00:28:59
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What starts to happen? Well, it's science that this field starts to collapse and people start to experience synchronicity. They start to experience really strange things that tend to sort of pop out of nowhere. Conversations, pages in a book, angel numbers, like things just happen and their life starts to move.
00:29:20
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It's not a genie in a bottle. Manifestation is not, oh, I'm going to think positive thoughts and all of a sudden like things are going to happen. It can feel like that sometimes, but it is a sequential process of observation. Wherever your attention and observation is dictates what collapses. Now, the reason that's important is if someone looks into a physical mirror, okay, in the physical world, and they're staring into that mirror with a sad face, what will the mirror show?
00:29:46
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The mirror will clearly obviously show a sad face. We know if we if we if we seek a happy face in a physical mirror, we need to smile first.
00:29:57
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If we smile, the mirror will smile back. But so many people care unconsciously are frowning and waiting for the external world to change, to smile. It doesn't work like that. like we have to This is the paradox. We have to move beyond wanting. we have to We have to embody the state of what we seek. We have to start smiling before the evidence.
00:30:18
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And then when we smile, the physical world reflects a smile. Yeah. It's all in the feeling, isn't it? It's all. Yeah. I mean, it's it's absolutely it's in a state of being, which is thinking, feeling and behaving like the version of you that you seek. Right.
00:30:36
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Now, on feeling, when I learned this, I was like, yeah, OK, but how can I act like someone who's got money when I'm actually broke? You know, I quit real estate, taken out a loan, like I was in debt. I was understanding this work and struggling with the concept of like faking it till I made it.
00:30:57
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And I realized it's not about faking it. It's actually about feeling it till you make it. Because I couldn't fake having no debt. I couldn't fake having loads of money.
00:31:10
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But what I could do is feel abundant. And I could feel free. And the reason I could do that is two things. Firstly, I learned that if I meditate,
00:31:22
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and I slow down my brain. When I slow down my brain and I get out of the analytical part of my brain, there's a part of your brain when you're in alpha and theta brain waves where it cannot discern the difference between truth or a dream.
00:31:40
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So if I start visualizing being abundant, my body will actually feel it because it doesn't know the difference. Just like any nightmare we've ever had, the body believes in the nightmare.
00:31:52
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And also I could go and put myself in the emotional landscape of my future. ah could go and say to myself, how would it feel when I've got money? How would it feel when out of debt? Okay, we'd feel these emotions. Okay, now what activities can I go and do that make me feel equal to that future? So you're right. It is all about feeling.
00:32:11
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Feel it till you make it. And the problem is for most of us, it's our busy minds, isn't it? It's our thoughts. It's the racing thoughts that that are constant, that detach us from being able to dig into that feeling that even if you're like, oh yeah, I'm abundant, I'm abundant, I'm abundant or whatever, or I'm healthy, I'm healthy. And it's like but your mind is like, yeah, sure you are.
00:32:32
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You know, and and i i so I'm going to ask you now is like, you know, to give people some and I know all of this will be in the book as well, but, you know, some practical tips to start being able to slow down that mind. Like for me, what I would say, like how I do that is like I can't just lie down on on the floor or sit down and just meditate. I'm not like I'm too busy. I'm always rushing around. So for me, like walking, you know, going out walking in nature is usually helpful or else doing a bit of yoga and then I can, you know, lie down into Shavasana and then do a meditation. Or like going to the gym, lifting weights. If you're lifting heavy weights, you can't concentrate on anything else. So it clears the mind. Those would be my three go to things. And that's what I help my clients to help them de-stress, to be able to focus on, you know, in like working on themselves and be able to focus on themselves. But in relation to manifestation, we're probably talking about a whole different level of connecting with self.
00:33:28
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What would you suggest? Where do we start? Well, I think they're great strategies that you've already said that. think everyone's got to find their own one because everyone's different. What you've experienced, what you've explained there is what's called kinetic sort of meditation or kinetic visualization where because you've got racing thoughts, what you do is sort of complement movement with it. So sort of you create this sort of resonance between the racing thought and movement and it actually stabilizes you, which is interesting. Yeah, I kind of feel like it rocks me to sleep like a baby, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's cool yeah absolutely. It creates sort of coherence, which is balance.
00:34:03
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Otherwise, if you just stop, but you've got a really active, busy brain, ah it's sort bit haphazard, isn't it? So I like running and walking as well and being in nature.
00:34:14
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there There are some of the great strategies too. I mean, firstly, just try and meditate through guidance. If you're new to meditation, I wouldn't recommend necessarily just sitting in silence because, you know, it's not going to be as easy as, let's say, following one of my guided meditations where I actually use like the science of hypnotherapy to slow your brain down through like a body scan. And if you play if all you need to do, for example, if you listen to me, is just go into that meditation with one intention to follow Matt, follow his guidance.
00:34:49
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Now, if you follow my guidance and I'm telling you to imagine a gold light coming over your head and then down your body, it's actually slowing down your brain without you realising, firstly. Secondly, I love what's called binaural beats.
00:35:03
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Now, binaural beats is great because it what it does is it takes two different beats. okay So you've got, let's say, for example, 100 hertz going in through your left ear and 104 hertz going in through your right ear.
00:35:19
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So you've got a missing beat of four hertz there because you've got 100 and 104 hertz. And as they're coming in through the left and right hemispheres of the brain and they reach the middle, what the brain will automatically try and do is balance out the missing beat.
00:35:32
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So what it does is it it entrains the brain to the four hertz because it's the missing beat. And the four hertz is the same brainwave pattern as theta.
00:35:45
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So without you even needing to do anything, your brain will automatically slow itself down to theta, which is a really great way of also slowing down your brain.
00:35:56
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So what you could do is you could simply sit in meditation, go onto YouTube, type in theta banyaral beats. put an eye mask on, put your headphones in, set a timer maybe for 20 minutes and just just sit and just allow your brain to slow down. And really the purpose of what we're doing is getting beyond the analytical brain because the rational left brain, analytical brain is the one that questions and says it's not going to be possible for someone like me, you know, and it stops us from feeling and believing.
00:36:26
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Another great way that I love is simply journaling as well. i don't think there's anything more powerful than pen, paper, and a stream of consciousness where you just say, I'm just going to write. I am just writing and I'm just going to get anything out and initially actually offload what your analytical brain saying. And then once you've done that, you start sort of like channeling. It see comes from somewhere else and it's you'll have some pretty good breakthroughs through that.
00:36:50
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And then the other technique that I love, which isn't that great this time of year, it's actually snowing as we speak here in Cornwall, is grounding. And that's because the ground is rich in negatively charged sort of like ions where the the ground is the same vibration as theta brainwaves. It's called the Schumann resonance.
00:37:09
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So sort of alpha brainwaves. So all you need to do there is place bare feet on Earth and actually the the ground the ground is vibrating at the same frequency and it will slow down your brain. It's funny, like, you know, the way grounding has become this trendy thing in recent years. And I remember talking to someone, of I was like, what is grounding? and I think it's one of the early episodes of the podcast. And he explained it to me. And i was like, oh, I do that anyway. I didn't know there was a name for it.
00:37:34
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Yeah, right. It's funny, a lot of us do that naturally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know whether it's like that that in Cornwall. probably is because you're by the sea as well. But where like where I'm east coast of Ireland, I live in a seaside town. And well, any of the seaside towns in Ireland, sea swimming is a really big thing. Irish people are a bit crazy. They like to swim all year round in the sea, know, the cold water therapy. But I suppose that is like as well as probably other elements. It is a form of grounding as well, isn't it?
00:38:00
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but Yeah, absolutely. how demonstrate nature and get of the extreme I think being in nature, especially cold water, is a way to like freeze that part of your brain, isn't it? so there Here's what I say. like people the danger, honestly, is trying to copy what other people are doing. I think because, honestly, everyone's different. And the reason I've got to where I am is I am naturally someone that experiments.
00:38:26
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I don't ever follow a crowd. i've never I never have. I like to look at who does well in an industry and see what they do. And then I always like've always tweak it. I always break it apart. I've always been like that.
00:38:37
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And so I'll know all the tools, but not all the tools work for me. Like you'll hear me say many times, i've I struggled as a kid playing with toys because I didn't really have a great imagination. I remember my brother playing with a toy car like he was lost in another world.
00:38:53
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And I, to have fun, needed to break the toy apart. You know, so when it comes to meditation for me, I tend to have a harder time. Seeing, visualising, I tend to see more darkness.
00:39:06
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Me too. whereas Whereas my wife, oh my God, like she is like she'll meditate and she's crying and she's in like this other world because she's more like an artist, you know, my wife. like She's very artistic.
00:39:18
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So, you know, you've got to find your own tool. So for me, some of my best ways to manifest are actually through speaking and through writing and daydreaming as well, like allowing my mind with my eyes open to wonder. That's another absolute, because the concept of daydreaming, Kate, just so we understand, day means beta brainwaves, means the outside world.
00:39:39
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Dream means alpha. So whenever we're daydreaming, we're going from beta to alpha, beta to alpha, daydream, daydream, daydream. So when you daydream, if you're at the gym or if you're doing whatever, you're actually also meditating and visualizing. It's equally as powerful.
00:39:55
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Yeah. And do you know of what I've discovered about myself as well that I think has got that gets in my own way? And i I know a lot of people probably relate to this as well is I will like I'm a real organizer. I like to schedule things. I like to organize it. I like to, you know, I'm like, I want to do this.
00:40:11
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And, you know, so I'm going to journal at this time. I'm going to meditate at this time. I'm going to do my yoga here. I'm going to get out for my nature walk and I'm going to, you know, touch as many different things and smell. And, you know, and I guess over the top. I oversubscribe myself with stuff. And I overschedule it and it ruins it. So what I've done recently and it's so effective is I've just simplified everything and I'm just getting back into the feeling. I'm like, I don't feel like doing yoga this evening.
00:40:36
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I feel like I've got stuff I need to write out and I'll get my journal out and I'll write. And then sometimes I'll be like, I feel like I need to just watch Netflix and switch off tonight and I'll do that. And I'm learning to trust what I need instead of because I'm a real push, push to reach goals, push, push, push. And i I'm in my era of just letting go a little bit and stop trying so hard. And it's amazing. I feel so much better for it. And it's actually so, so much more effective.
00:41:05
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Well, that's because of one thing, Kate, and that's because what you're doing there, there's two parts of the brain. There's the you know there's the left brain and the right brain. you know The left brain is the analytical, rational organiser that has to sort of do, do, do, do. And the right brain is the intuitive, um feeling brain.
00:41:22
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And the right brain receives information. It tends to be like that gut feel, like that sort of knowing, and the left brain tends to like analyze information.
00:41:34
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And you know it's so interesting because if we just trusted the right brain more, we'd always be right. ah I don't know if you've heard of the telepathy tapes, these autistic children. It's fascinating. These autistic children are able to risk do many things that are truly extraordinary, such as read their mother's minds.
00:41:56
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see with an eye mask on, see between walls. They can they know information that they shouldn't know. And it's because a lot of these children have a damaged left brain.
00:42:07
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And because of that, there is no way for them to necessarily analyze the information in the same way. So they just take the information and and it's and it's right. you know they They just know their mother's mind.
00:42:22
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And it it's sort of what intuition is. It's that sort of, it's the same thing because we're we're in constant guidance from this intelligence, from this field of intelligence, all knowing information field.
00:42:35
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It's a balance of analyzing and also just knowing. And one of the segue here quickly, that if people may relate to this, I don't know if it's over in Ireland, but it's called Traitors.
00:42:46
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And it's a big TV show. Oh, yeah. My husband's been watching this. Yeah. And i i did I think there's an Irish version of it that was on a few months ago. I didn't watch it, but he did. OK. So, you know, there's like you two or three traitors who are like the murderers and then there's like 12 or 15, however many sort of faithfuls. And the the idea is obviously they try and figure out who the traitors are, who' who's killing them off. And what's truly interesting with with the faithfuls is when they try and analyze, they're often always wrong. They're often like when they debate, oh, I think it's this person, they're wrong. But when when you listen to them go, I've got a gut feeling that it's that person. So interesting me you listen to them saying like when when they have a gut feel that they're right, but they don't listen to the gut. They follow the crowd. They analyze what other people are saying.
00:43:31
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And it's it's the same sort of thing with manifestation. like There's a time and a place to analyze, but there's a time and a place to realize that maybe I should just trust because actually, is it my intelligence that is keeping my heart beating right now? Is it my intelligence that's keeping Earth in orbit?
00:43:47
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No, it's not. it's it's It's an intelligence that's far, far, far greater than my conscious intelligence. So maybe I should just trust and stop analyzing. Yeah.
00:43:58
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00:44:28
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Yeah. And it's it's funny because obviously, and I have actually have a name for this that we I had to kind of talked through this, these two sides of me with my coach.
Intuition vs. Analytical Thinking
00:44:37
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and But like, you know, you it is basically left and right side of brain. So I call it the knot and the cloud.
00:44:42
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So the knot is my super like organized go, go, go, Kate, goal setting, hitting goals, organizing everything so things happen. and And then the cloud is that is my gut, my you know, when I that that one for freedom that I that I have that when I lean into it, like things just feel so much easier. And yeah it's funny for a long time when we've talked about this myself and my coach, I have felt that that I should be a hell of a lot more cloud. And I always thought the not part of me was bad.
00:45:13
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And he was like, no, like the not part of you is actually like, look at everything you've achieved in life. that It plays its part, but you just need to stop. You don't need to keep trying so hard with the not side of you. You need to just let more cloud in. But the not still does its bit.
00:45:26
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i just thought it was really, and really nice way to view it. It's a good way of looking it. I like that. Yeah. And I think if everyone reads The Surrender Experiment by Mickey Singer, which is one of my favorite books, it's a story, a true story of how a hippie in the woods in the 1970s decided to listen to his right side of his brain like and allow intuition and the universe to call the shots. And he went from being a hippie to building a billion dollar business just by...
00:45:51
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sort of not necessarily following what his ego is telling him he should do, you know. yeah So it's quite fascinating if we can learn to trust it even more and not be afraid of it. Because I think we we try and analyze and try and figure out whether it fits sort of like what we know to be true in our life. But I always say that, you know, reality is over 99.9% unknown. that's That's a fact. Invisible fields of energy. What's known in our life represents less than 0.01%.
00:46:18
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So, you know, what would you rather trust? But we tend to only trust what we know. Yeah, that's always from the past. So we can't actually know. we can't know what it what's ahead. we We try and our brain tries to protect us and keep us safe.
00:46:32
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And be like, oh, maybe don't do that. This could happen. You might, you know, might not have enough money to pay for this. and You know, and all these scary things or you might fail. or But like when we bring it down to it, like that's literally what success is, is failing and getting up, failing and getting up and just trying again until you figure it out.
00:46:48
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exactly Yeah, exactly. And knowing what you've just said, that its primary purpose is to just try and keep you safe. Yeah. Because it can only survive on the landscape of what it knows. Yeah. In relation to gratitude, I struggle with this. OK, so I struggle like I love to set goals. I love having something to strive for.
00:47:09
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But I also find it hard to balance the gratitude. I can find it hard to be grateful for what I have and strive for what I'm going towards as well. That can be a hard balance, can't it? o Yeah. So most people, when they do their gratitude statements, let's think about what gratitude is first. like Gratitude is because we have something. Gratitude is a state of of having, receiving.
00:47:33
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Most people are only grateful for what they already have, right? Which is obvious. And it's like where we all start. But if I've just explained to you the observer effect, if I've explained to you the mirror analogy, like we can't wait for what we want to then be grateful. We've got to be grateful for it ahead of the event.
00:47:51
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Now, that's pretty difficult to do if what you're manifesting is too far out because you're actually going to struggle to to even feel and connect with that gratitude statement. Whereas if you break it all the way down sequentially to what you think could be the next step,
00:48:06
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And then you're in gratitude for it. It's unbelievable what happens. Unbelievable. And I and i do this to this to this day. I've got different, I write down five things I'm grateful for. I always write down a couple of things that are already in my life.
00:48:20
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But the three things are often different avenues, different manifestations of things that I'm working on. that aren't yet in my life and I'm sort of roughly figuring out what I think it could look like and then saying I'm so grateful and blessed now that this has happened because and then i and then i i explain the reason why and it's to me it's just my it's my as people will read it's my secret weapon yeah it's unbelievable yeah that's Absolutely unbelievable. So set the vision, reverse engineer, break it into, just look look at your your next your next mini goal and be grateful that it is, visualize it as already happened. Be the person who it's already happened to and be grateful for it.
00:49:03
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Yeah, I write, it I tend to write it down. So I'm just let me give you an example. You know, let's imagine that before this podcast, um a desire was I really hope this podcast goes as well, you know, and that and that that it's a smooth conversation. And, you know, and I don't embarrass myself. Let's just say I'm just using it as an example. Yeah.
00:49:24
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Well, I would write down first. I'm so grateful and blessed that my podcast was kate with Kate was a huge success because we were able to share powerful teachings around the subject of manifestation and help a lot of people. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
00:49:37
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you know, so what I'm trying to do is I'm looking in my life and I'm trying to think what feels outstanding. What, what would I like? And then I'm closing the gap by saying i'm grateful ahead of the event.
00:49:48
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And I did that through the whole process of like, of my book, like there's a process there's getting the publishing deal, then, then signing the deal and then writing the book and then actually going through editor the editor and being signed off. And Even you you said you're listening to it, you're not guaranteed to even get the narration for your own book. You have to audition for it, right? So when I knew we were at that phase where they were starting to think about that because the book was signed off, every single day, Kate, I'd say, I'm so grateful and blessed.
00:50:17
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Now that, Penguin have automatically given me the rights to the narration because authentically I know people will resonate with my voice and my stories. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:50:29
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And I'd say that every single day until the editor of Audible reached out and said, Matt, um I've looked at you your profile. I don't think this makes any sense to audition this.
00:50:40
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Are you comfortable doing it yourself? And i was like, sure. it Absolutely. Of course. you know So that's what I mean. though So I wasn't like saying thank you once I was given it. I'm saying thank you before.
00:50:51
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So it's kind of like when you step into room new rooms, yeah new doors are open for you that bring you next level. Like if we take your career, for example, you know, and, you know, stepping into Penguin and, you know, like you already have rehearsed what this is going to feel like. You're ready for it. Like you're you're great. You're already grateful for it rather than walking into a room not feeling good enough.
00:51:14
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And perhaps yeah letting yourself down a Waiting and hoping that it all works out. yeah And that you don't even enjoy because you're so anxious, you're sweaty and you're like, oh, heart palpitations and the whole lot. Whereas you're like, I'm ready for this and I'm so grateful and it's time.
00:51:27
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Yeah, exactly. i think also though, if we can segue slightly on this to help people, Having more of a broader focus of how it can happen, you'll win so so so much faster. Because there's this sort of, for for years, this contradiction that I had, which was, all right, well, if we're manifesting from this unified field that's infinite, why could why could i not win the lottery. like why Why doesn't Dr. Jodie Spencer manifest winning the lottery? Why don't all these manifestation teachers manifest winning the lottery? Let's just say, right?
00:52:07
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Why do they have to sell courses? and like what Why? Well, and that's, it took me a while to figure it out. And this is probably round two, Kate, for me to go really deep on like the science behind how I've discovered this. But to simplify it, it's this.
00:52:22
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I want you to take for a moment the national lottery here in the UK and let's just imagine some simple maths. So let's imagine 35 million people buy a ticket and they all buy a one ticket.
00:52:33
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Yeah. And the prize is 10 million. Well, some simple odds on that then, Kate, dictates that if you and I are part of that, we all have about a 35 million to one chance of winning. Now...
00:52:45
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Amongst those people, Kate, we've got we've got the likes of you and i that are understand manifestation. We understand what we can do. We understand that intention, which is a vision, can modify the odds and modify the the probability of us winning.
00:52:58
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so So we're in that. But we've also got a few million people that don't understand manifestation, but have always said, you know, one day I know I'm going to win the lottery.
00:53:10
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So even though they're not aware of manifestation, they hold that belief. You've also got people who are just playing randomly. like Maybe they've just automatically bought a ticket. And you've got people that are broke, desperate, got no other hope. They don't believe they're going to win, but there's a part of them that think they might and they just play.
00:53:26
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Well, you see it when people that win, you often see them in interviews going, I always knew. I always knew I'd win one day. But what you'd never account for are the millions of people that are still saying to this day that one day they'll win, but they haven't yet.
00:53:40
Speaker
Yeah. So because we're playing against 35 million other conscious beings, we can't reduce the odds from 35 million to one. Like we we can't just do that.
Personal Growth vs. Material Desires
00:53:56
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It happens, of course, to people, but we live in a a rule set, a physical rule set where it has to be fair game. And your intention can modify the probability of it happening. So what do I mean?
00:54:10
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There's a guy called Dean Radin, a scientist. There's many experiments that he's done on intention. Your intention can modify odds. So you and I, Kate, we could actually absolutely steer the odds down from 35 million to one, maybe to 3 million to one.
00:54:24
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If we're really, really good, maybe we could even steer it down to 300,000 to one. But are we going to steer it one to one? Probably not. Let's be honest, because every week we just play when just win the lottery.
00:54:35
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It's got to fit. It's got to fit a rule set. So when you have a fixed attitude towards your manifestation, especially when you're up against other people, you've got to just accept that it has to fit and it has to work with other people that have also got free will.
00:54:50
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Now, when it comes to manifesting healing, for example, or abundance, or love in general, that's massively so much easier, and I'll explain why.
00:55:02
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If someone's looking to manifest from a health condition, there's so many variables of where they could go with their health. they could They could go downhill really quickly. They could live with that illness for years and decades, or they could naturally heal, or they could do one meditation and heal.
00:55:20
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The key thing is they're not playing against 35 million other people. They're playing against themselves. Right? So they might have the influence of family and doctors, but they're playing against themselves. there's no other free will involved.
00:55:32
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So because of that, it's so much easier for the universe to help co-create with you because it's not also like there's no other there's no one else in a sense getting in the way. So there so the the uncertainty around it is wide open. And that's why people heal. Right?
00:55:46
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that Jodie spends his retreats after a meditation. That's why people heal when they get given a sugar pill that's a placebo and they think it's the real thing. They heal very quickly. So when you open yourself up to possibility, when you open yourself up to abundance from anywhere, from miracles from anywhere, it's so much easier for the universe to do that. But if you say, I'm only going to have this one opportunity with this one company and this one person, you're narrowing yourself right down because you're also up against free will, other people's free will as well.
00:56:15
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So for me, I've always said that the heart ah of the manifestations I find harder are the ones where I'm too attached. I'm not allowing, like i I've written it in the book. I was so obsessed and attached with a house and we were rejected on it.
00:56:31
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When I opened myself up to redirection, the universe brought this one to me, which is in the same village, literally a mile down the road. It's even better. But it only came to me the moment I opened up.
00:56:45
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was so narrow focused on one. And that's the same. I see that with people looking to manifest a specific person. Look, let's be honest. We can't override someone's free will, can we?
00:56:56
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This other person has to also, from their own, like, want that relationship. But that's forcing anyway. It's not manifestation, isn't it? If we're forcing it. he put the um Yeah, but trust me, there are a lot of teachers out there that say you can manifest specific people or specific things. and Yeah, of course. Like this is absolutely like. That's just marketing though, isn't it?
00:57:14
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Yeah, but people fall for it, you know. and I always say to people, like, you know, just, just, it's not about, and this is the thing, right? It's actually not about anything. Like, even, even if I say to someone, and I've, I've not argued, but I've tried to convince people to see the bigger picture.
00:57:28
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I'll say, okay, this one person that you'd love to manifest, it's not about them. And they're like, what do you mean? What do you mean? It's not about them. It's not. You are attracted to a version of yourself that exists in your imagination when you're with that person.
00:57:43
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Yeah. Aren't you? Because they make you feel a certain way in your mind, don't they? It's all back to feeling. All back to feeling. It's the same with money. and Yeah, it's the same with money or career or and or health. or You know, it's that energy. it's the it It's the energy you want to put out in the world. It's the energy you want to receive.
00:57:59
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It's how you're attracted to that version of you that has all those things that you see. yeah So the real trick here is, okay, well, why don't I actually just start being like them and and allow things to open? And every single time someone's done that, they've always manifested someone that's far greater than they ever imagined in the first place.
00:58:17
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One point I want to kind of make on what you were saying there as well about, you know, like the lotto or the that the specific job or the specific person where you're pitting yourself against other people, it becomes competition, it becomes comparison. It's that that blocks manifest of manifestation because it's the authenticity, isn't it? It's stepping into future you, stepping into real you, who you really are and not forcing following the crowd.
00:58:44
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It's like literally going your own path and just like stop following the crowd, stop trying to compete for everyone else and feel into what feels right for you. What do you really want? You, not what you think other people want you to have.
00:58:58
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Absolutely. 100%.
Authenticity in Manifestation
00:59:00
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Authenticity is so powerful, Kate. yeah It's one of the fastest vibrations that exist in terms of emotions. It's it's it's faster than love.
00:59:09
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You know, just, just
00:59:14
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I think the problem with all of this, if i'm honest, is is trying to figure it out egoically. Set the intent, understand what it is that you're seeking and and allow yourself to be blown away by the intelligence of the universe.
00:59:25
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That's the real trick here, Kate, if I'm absolutely honest. You know, if we set the intention... To help as many people for the greatest good of all concern in everything we do is the trick here.
00:59:39
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The trick there, if it's wrapped around love and intent in that respect, the universe has to help. This intelligence, this larger consciousness system, this universal field of energy has to help.
00:59:51
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It has to help for its own evolution. And that is the trick in all of this. When we try and lead from ego, from what I want for myself to impress other people, it's, I'm not saying you can't have it, but it's harder.
01:00:04
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Yeah. Whenever we seek something to help other people, you'll be blown away. You will absolutely be blown away. So if you're seeking and a sum of money, think to yourself, what can this money do? Not just for myself, but everyone concerned and hold that vision in your mind.
01:00:19
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And so many incredible things will happen. Mic drop. That was amazing. Matt, thank you so much. I would love to do a part two with you when you are in Dublin, if that suits you. We could dive into the science of matt manifestation. You can give me the science lesson. I'll be ready. I'll concentrate. No, so that, we you know, that we can go into more of of of of that energy because I do find it fascinating and I think it really helps people distinguish the fact that this isn't just magic. This, you know, there there is science behind this. And I want to talk to you about numbers and signs as well. So we might do that next time.
01:00:52
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That's OK. Let's do it. I'm game. Whenever you want. Let's get it in the diary round two. Yeah, let's get it in the diary for round two. Definitely coming. Everybody, you can pick up Matt's book, Beyond Wanting. You can get it Amazon, anywhere you get books, really, yeah?
01:01:06
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Yeah, anywhere, pretty much. Yeah, just Google Beyond Wanting and you'll see it. so Yeah, perfect. And your best place for people to reach you if they want to find out more about other the things you do as well. Yeah, just Matt Cook Coach on Instagram. I'm all over, but if you just type Matt Cook, you'll find me on Instagram. and And from there, you'll see everywhere else that I can help. Amazing. Matt, thank you so much for your time today. You're welcome. I've really enjoyed it. Thanks, everyone, for listening.
01:01:29
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Thank you.
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