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Episode 224: Tragic news, kit launches and European football?

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Southampton –Heartbeaking news in the football world as wel learn of the loss of Diogo Jota. Also we launched a kit, we talk about that, some other bits from our club and others, and speculate on European football?

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Introduction and Tribute to Diego Jota

00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott, as always joined by my good friend, wonderful co-host, Zach Ingo Finch. How you doing, mate?
00:00:21
Zak
Yeah, I've had a, I've had a right day. you know, bar the tragic news we learned this morning.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so I guess that's let's start with that get out of the way. Obviously, not Southampton related, but the entire football world. hurt and shocked by the passing of Diego Jota and his brother as well in the car accident and obviously you know a ah ah young player with kids and a wife most importantly who are who now without a dad and husband so our thoughts go out to to friends, family and Liverpool and
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's been touching to see the football world coming together all day, all over the place with touching moments. But yeah, our thoughts go out to them.
00:01:07
Zak
Just hug your loved ones.
00:01:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...

Cherishing Family and Southampton Kit Launch

00:01:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:10
Zak
like sure just you know make Make sure you do you don't know when the last time that you get to say things to your loved ones are.
00:01:17
Zak
I know this is not really football related, but I think it's important off the back of it. Just make sure you tell them.
00:01:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's... An important thing that it's not nice to have a reminder of, but but here we are. But anyway, amidst all of that sadness, we we launched a kit.
00:01:37
Zak
We did. so it it turns out that that my, what is it, my my suspicions that it was AI, can't work out now if they've confirmed how insanely paranoid I am as a person, or or I'm just getting worse at what I thought was being able to spot it and how I just see it and everything.
00:02:00
Zak
And I think it's probably firmly the latter. Yeah. uh how you know this kid was taken through like a photo screen of someone they taking a photo of like the the camera right and that's where they'd caught like a side angle of jack stevens i like it it's cool it's based on an old 70s kit you can tell how do we greg do we talk about the photo shoot do we get out of the way
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, we've got to. I will say that i like the kit. I saw it on a kid at Stoneham today when I went for my ah son's training.
00:02:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it looks great on. With a number on the back, it looks really nice, really sharp. Big fan. And what did they did do to poor Yuki?
00:02:46
Zak
Man, that it's just not very it's just not a flattering photo, is it? he looks He looks like a divorced dad.
00:02:56
Zak
And I mean that in the nicest possible way.
00:02:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:58
Zak
don't think that's him. I think that the way they have decided to sort of picture these and sort of set this up is like, I get it, right? this was by dan's This was my nan's lounge.
00:03:09
Zak
But on the leather soda for her, she had sort of a she she had like a carpet-y one, but it was the same sort of colour, same style, same wallpaper.
00:03:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
uh
00:03:19
Zak
i So it brings me back, don't get me wrong. But yeah, it's just... they they i'm I'm more annoyed that they didn't announce the other kits, right? Like, I don't really get it.
00:03:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
it' the candage It's like a candid shot that someone took in the 90s on Christmas Eve. Even the headline photo of Jack Stephens, it just looks like he's walked off the field after playing any game last season.
00:03:43
Zak
And for some reason picked up an old fashioned, like, don't get me wrong.
00:03:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
00:03:49
Zak
i get that they're trying to go about the nostalgia route and like, you've got the whole season ticket, they'll pop stuff. And it's just, and you know, it's right in front of the picture of of the if the, like the game.
00:04:00
Zak
And, And even Wellington trying to make it fashion kind of works a little bit.
00:04:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:06
Zak
It's just, the whole thing's just a bit weird. And I get that. And you know what? I'm here for it. I'll happily have a weird kit. How do you feel about the sponsor? Because I've seen a bit of criticism.
00:04:17
Zak
I'm guessing it's to try and make it go with the shorts, Because if they did like blue P&O and then you had like black shorts, I can understand why it's black and white.
00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:25
Zak
it just looks almost a bit Comic Sans-y.
00:04:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like it. No, I like it. I mean, it let's put it right.
00:04:29
Zak
No?
00:04:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's put it in perspective.
00:04:31
Zak
Is it better than... sport Is it better?
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's 300 times better than Rollbit.
00:04:34
Zak
Roll bit.
00:04:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It at least kind of matches the aesthetic of the kit, right? I

Kit Design Critique and Marketing Strategies

00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
like it.
00:04:42
Zak
Yes.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nice.
00:04:43
Zak
Yeah, and I'd like...
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
It makes it look proper old school. Proper old school.
00:04:48
Zak
It's true, and it's... I think I'm going to struggle because my wife doesn't like collared shirts, and it's one the reasons she doesn't like it, and I'm relatively sure all three of them are going to be collared.
00:04:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 100%. That seems to be the gimmick they've gone with, so...
00:04:59
Zak
But... this I like the fact that
00:05:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're right, though. Why didn't they bring any other kits out at the same time?
00:05:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, what's with the staggered launch?
00:05:05
Zak
who
00:05:06
Zak
who knows, unless it's to try and get you to buy one and then buy the next and buy the next. I don't think they understand that if they launch all three, probably still going to buy all three of the same day. So I like, did you see the little bit about it's got its dry cell sweat wicking technology?
00:05:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean...
00:05:23
Zak
Designed to kit help keep those on the pitch in the stands dry ah ah comfortable. Which, to be fair, I went for one of my shirts to Wembley and we had to run to catch the train. And I can't remember which kit it was.
00:05:34
Zak
But she was sweating for like the rest of the day and she was not happy with those kits. So maybe...
00:05:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it just sounds like utter nonsense to me.
00:05:43
Zak
Oh, it does, doesn't it? It's just like future-proof technology.
00:05:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's just throw some words together. What do you want in a shirt?
00:05:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's like, well, we could we can't just lead with it being red and white stripes again.
00:05:49
Zak
cell.
00:05:49
Zak
Dry cell.
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've got to come up with some other words. Like,
00:05:57
Zak
I do like the fact that it's 95% recycled textile material, though. Like, that's good. I'll put the environment and stuff.
00:06:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:06:04
Zak
That's got to be better than gambling.
00:06:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sure.
00:06:06
Zak
gambling like previously. don't know. back Back to your point about the... Instead of me spouting random facts about the kit. Yeah, about the whole why aren't the other kits launched? Because like I really want that third kit. If that third kit leaks through and the fact that the first one is means that I reckon the away is probably going to be about the same and the third kit will probably be the same. I just just want them out now. hate it. hey I just don't like waiting.
00:06:32
Zak
That's my problem. LAUGHTER
00:06:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
The thing is, you know what they're going to do, right? This will be the kit for the Friendly No. 1. then right after Friendly No. 1, but before Friendly No.
00:06:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
2, we'll have the Away kit launch, and they'll wear that.
00:06:49
Zak
Oh, you're right. And then they'll get everyone to buy it because they've seen it.
00:06:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then, yeah. and But i mean, we've only got two Friendlies, so I don't know what they're to for the third
00:06:53
Zak
I'm just terrible.

Nostalgia in Football Kits

00:06:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
kit.
00:06:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why aren't there any Goalkeeper kits? I mean, if we're going old but new, I think if yesterday's episode's anything to go 97, goalkeeper kit. Yeah. go keep kit
00:07:06
Zak
are they just going to launch the entire range from the 70s and you know we're going to have like a really basic goalkeeper kit, non-90s? I don't know. it'll be interesting to see.
00:07:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:07:14
Zak
but again, like i'm hoping I'm hoping when we see them, they're what what's been leaked, and if they are, I'll be really happy. and i'm I'm already trying to stop the temptation of just buying it now because I'm bad at stuff like that.
00:07:29
Zak
Mm-hmm.
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Before we head into our first break, Zach, I've got ah ah just a slight curveball question. With the sort throwback, old-school feel that the marketing team have clearly gone for for this, you think that was made before they knew who the manager was going to be and they were also hoping that we brought in Neil Warnock?...............
00:07:43
Zak
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:07:52
Zak
but you're You're right. that Our current manager was like, you know, was it was minus 20 when this kit was around or or thereabouts, right? He's younger than me and you, which when you think about it is very upsetting.
00:08:05
Zak
So yeah maybe, maybe they were hoping, maybe, you know, I just, I'm just glad that it's not a terrible gambling sponsor. And I'm glad that it's something that's still very, very saintly and not let's try and copy someone else.
00:08:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like it. I...
00:08:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I really like it. But, I mean, if you don't like it, go in the clearance section on the website. There's still 43 different types of highlighter yellow kit available on there. so
00:08:32
Zak
Ha ha ha ha!
00:08:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:09:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we are back. So, look, talking of kit launches and on on that theme, you pointed out to me earlier, Zach, Sunderland having a bit of mare, is it safe to say?
00:09:35
Zak
but Right. let let us When I first saw this, I had to double check. This was indeed the actual Sunderland football club and not like a weird lower league, you know, like like, you know, like we've got like Schoenig FC and stuff like that, which is not to disrespect. But do know mean? Like I thought, oh, hang on. This is actually the right Sunderland.
00:09:56
Zak
So I had to click on and go, oh this is the right Sunderland. And they seem to have changed their badge. And I hate this modern badge thing that's going around that that we need to change it for some reason.
00:10:08
Zak
It looks like it's been made on MS Paint. It looks like it's taken a graphic designer about a week or two to do it. It's got a weird tanker on it. Now, apparently, Greg, you said there's an explanation for this.
00:10:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah. So there is, because this is is actually reverting to their old badge from, you know, eons ago Something like 25 years ago, they changed it to the Sunderland badge that we would all know.
00:10:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so what they've done is they've changed it back to the old badge, but because of climate change and rising sea levels, they've they've moved the level of the water
00:10:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
that was That's it. To highlight the potentially devastating effects of climate change.
00:10:54
Zak
i
00:10:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've covered half of the logo.
00:10:54
Zak
Again, and i'm not i'm not a Sunderland expert, so it might be that a lot of sort of the old school fans are quite happy with them returning to an older badge. Again, I'm only going by what I'm looking at.
00:11:05
Zak
it's just It's just a bit weird. it's I feel like that that's not... If David Attenborough, voice of generations, is unable to stop people from you know putting their cans in the bin instead of the recycling with ridiculous countless documentaries, I feel like raising the tanker on your badge isn't going to do it either.
00:11:28
Zak
It just seems a bit it seems a bit strange when they're promoted. and like I'm guessing it's to try and push that Sutherland's a seaside town. Because the first I know of it, I'm not going lie. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Sutherland. All I know is that this little tidbit might be enjoyed by our GSPN Newcastle colleagues as we completely mug off their rival club that's now come back into the Premier League to french essentially take our place because they won on the playoffs. So...
00:11:54
Zak
Yeah, it just it's just it's a bit weird, it? I just found it... It took me by surprise because I didn't realise it was them. But now maybe I'm the one that looks a bit dumb because it turns out it is actually their old badge. I just thought it wasn't very good.
00:12:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and changing their kit colour from red and white to blue as well is old, isn't it?
00:12:13
Zak
know You know, like when like when Cardiff went from blue as the bluebirds to red. Historically, went down really well.
00:12:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, just... Just a... a bold choice in it. It's just... It's really something.
00:12:28
Zak
it's It's why I'm glad, like, at the very least, we've we've stuck with, like... i with it When it comes to the kits, we're still... In some way or form, it's still red and white stripes and not, like, anything weird.
00:12:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:39
Zak
Because I'm really scared that one day they're going do something like We are...
00:12:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, they will. Inevitably, they will. And we'll still buy it. Or we won't, and we'll buy the away shirt that they offer instead, because... with grade A consumers and fans, Zach, and that's how we support our football club.
00:12:56
Zak
Yeah...
00:12:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then, you know, after a whole controversy of taking it away for a year and doing something dumb, then they get the whole celebration angle stripes are back. And yeah, I like that.
00:13:07
Zak
Yeah.
00:13:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like our kit this year, at least. I think that it's nice.
00:13:14
Zak
Yeah. i at least At least we can land on the fact that there's nothing too controversial. It's just a funny photo shoot.
00:13:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that it,
00:13:20
Zak
I don't even think it's bad.
00:13:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that it looks nice. I think that they've made a good enough effort to make it look different enough that it's not just buying the same kit every year. But But man, Sunderland.
00:13:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was also pointed out to us before the show, controversially, our friends down the road's third kit is is slightly out there.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
But mixed opinions...
00:13:48
Zak
see See, the problem is is is I clicked on it expecting some sort of horror show. And as i said, Greg, if that if that was a Saints kit, similar to when we had the Tidal Wave one that we both agreed was a really good kit, I would probably be like, yeah, this is all right.
00:13:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:04
Zak
However, you also reminded me, it just looks like that 90s pattern that used to be on like the side of all soft drinks in America that then did like a weird retro T-shirt thing about five or six years ago where all of like the the Gen Z kids had started wearing those T-shirts despite not being alive in the 90s.
00:14:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:19
Zak
And that's when we started to realise maybe we're hurtling towards middle age. We're nowhere near there, don't get me wrong, but it's coming up quicker than we'd like to think. LAUGHTER
00:14:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah you know mean I genuinely pulled a hamstring in my sleep this week, so it feels closer than it should.
00:14:36
Zak
Oh, you're not wrong. I won't tell you that I did a 5K at the gym today.
00:14:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright.
00:14:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I went up the stairs five times, that counts. Right.

Impact of Scheduling on Fan Behavior

00:14:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Speaking of our friends down the road, fixture change. Surprising than anyone?
00:14:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Moved to a Sunday at 12 o'clock? That's fine, isn't it?
00:14:58
Zak
Well, we've talked about this back and forth a little bit anyway. and like i think you know it's completely understandable, but what I don't think they understand is that if Wetherspoon's open at 9am and a kick-off is at 3pm, you have five hours, and during that time, people that are deciding to cause trouble can get to a point where they're blackout and not going to make it to the game, right?
00:15:19
Zak
Whereas moving it to 12 means they've got two hours of getting solid drinking in before having to rush to the game. so Is it better?
00:15:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that's just in the bars, right? Like, it's 5 o'clock it' fiveclock somewhere.
00:15:32
Zak
yeah You're right. maybe that Maybe people are cracking cans before 9am. But yeah, obviously no one is surprised by it. I think the more surprising thing to me is, does this mean that the AFL are actually keeping to their whole, we're going to give you enough notice before we change a fixture?
00:15:48
Zak
Or is it just going to be at the beginning of the season?
00:15:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I believe today was the deadline for, I think, the whole of September. I believe they might have pushed it back slightly with the other news in the football world today to not, you know, cause too much of a a backlash, which is probably fair enough.
00:16:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, some of it coming out. And I guess by, I guess this time tomorrow, we'll have final word on which of our fixtures move for TV for the rest of that month.
00:16:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah, it will be interesting.
00:16:17
Zak
It'll be interesting.
00:16:20
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00:16:47
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Okay, and we're back. A few other bits to talk about, guess. You see the day two training video from the club?
00:16:55
Zak
Yeah, saw a bit of it. They seem to be putting the work in. It's nice to see them all out and about and all back at the club. And I saw, I don't know if you saw the little conversation they had with Shea Charles, happy to be back and bits and pieces, and

Sheffield Wednesday's Financial Woes

00:17:08
Zak
which is nice.
00:17:09
Zak
And apparently we're still owed money from Sheffield Wednesday, who at this point their players are taking them to, their players are moaning about not being paid.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Classic.
00:17:17
Zak
So it isn't just us that are getting paid. but yeah, it's, it's,
00:17:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, they they're in a weird position, right? like Their players went to the EFL to ask for the TV money to go straight to the club staff instead of to the owner and to the club.
00:17:29
Zak
Which is kind of just devastating really, isn't it, to be honest?
00:17:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think six of their players just asked for contract terminations today because I think yesterday was the deadline for them to be paid before they had the right to do that and walk out scot-free.
00:17:47
Zak
Yeah.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just a mess, isn't it? And when people call for Sports Republic out, you just have to look at that living, breathing example of how much worse it could be.
00:17:57
Zak
Yeah, and it'd be interesting to see where Daddy Roel, who supposedly turned us down, is going to sit here because it also doesn't look like he's being picked up from elsewhere, right, as far as I'm aware. So he's now going to be stuck in a horrendous situation for clubs. So Graz isn't always greener, I think, is the point we're both trying to make

Southampton Transfer Updates

00:18:13
Zak
here.
00:18:14
Zak
The other things I wanted to mention, Greg, is the fact that we've now obviously, since Transfer Tuesday and our sort of discussions over the last couple of days, where we've now had both Turpol arrive in Turkey to a big reception of media and fans and also super a super agent Ivan Juric picking up Sulemana for a ridiculous fee.
00:18:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Great.
00:18:40
Zak
ill
00:18:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
and what What a saint's legend Ivan Urich is to come and take that away. Take that problem away. and for ah ah yeah we you know if I think it works out on a four-year contract the way the maths works.
00:18:40
Zak
Happy days!
00:18:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think, as I understand it, is that they split his £20 million that he cost us directly across those four years. So at this point, he'd be worth like five minutes. to almost break even on the original number is...
00:19:12
Zak
it's It's astonishing considering like you know i expected us to take a big loss and I'm relatively sure when we were talking about it you know like even even the middle of the year right before he was getting game time for he started getting game time under Juric when we're talking about the fact that he'd barely played Martin wasn't picking him and we had probably expected him to go for 5-6 million for to to get ah ah supposedly £18 million pound and a set on calls as well. It's just like oh, that's happy day.
00:19:41
Zak
Say what you want about our back room and spores, and but like so far they are pre proving pretty shrewd with their transfer negotiations, right? I think the only thing people were slightly upset by was the transfer of Sam Amu, but that's not really surprising considering he wasn't looking like in game time.
00:19:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Spores came out and said that he wouldn't have done that, right? That or let Magoma go, that he'd have kept them. So it is interesting.
00:20:04
Zak
Exactly. The only other thing want...
00:20:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting.
00:20:07
Zak
The the only other thing transfer-wise wanted to mention was one of the people, Academy right-back Derek Abu, who was let go by the club, has joined our like French sister club on a free transfer.
00:20:18
Zak
So it's quite nice to see...
00:20:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting.
00:20:19
Zak
like one of our academy prospects let go and not just be thrown to the kind of wolves of the is football and get picked up by the multi-club model, which is interesting that there's no transfer fee involved there.
00:20:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, like
00:20:31
Zak
If they're just waiting for his contract to expire and then pick them up or then had a look at him and went, Oh, we'll take him.
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:38
Zak
I still don't know how i feel about those kinds of things, but it's nice.
00:20:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's Yeah. I saw a funny article earlier today from a couple of days ago from like a Turkish...

Multi-Club Ownership Impact on Football

00:20:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
outlet that were saying that Saints are baffled Gestepay have sold someone to Fulham.
00:20:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And i I was like, what? I was just really baffled by it. It defies the logic of a multi-club network that they would sell it to someone that to you know that might be competition for Saints. And I'm like, well, i mean, we've just sold Tool Pool to Transbondsport.
00:21:11
Zak
Yeah, who were literally, literally their competition.
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like...
00:21:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
like I know that we're a multi-club network, but you still you still make sales outside of the network. that You need to make money.
00:21:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:21:22
Zak
hu Here's a longer discussion point that we haven't really touched on.
00:21:27
Zak
how You know, like the Crystal Palace-Leon situation that's to do with a multi-club metro. Obviously, we don't have to worry about European football yet. You know, that's going to come the season after next, right?
00:21:38
Zak
But
00:21:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:39
Zak
but Is that a thing we should be concerned about in the future, that we somehow don't end up with European football because of weird ownership rules? Because i I don't know how I feel. I feel like all of that feels a little bit gross and it shouldn't be taken into account, in my opinion.
00:21:53
Zak
But then also, I guess it's to stop essentially football megacorporations from...
00:21:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
You kind of get it though, right? yeah but Yeah, but I mean also if you had like RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig against each other in a final or in a semi-final and you know it's a lot of gross accusations that could be thrown around in a situation like that so they just avoid at the off.
00:22:08
Zak
Yeah.
00:22:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that whole situation is baffling and the fact that ah ah I don't know how true it is, but i saw that obviously Lyon are having some real financial difficulties and have been relegated to League 2.
00:22:30
Zak
Hmm.
00:22:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And because of that, we'll step back from European football. And so that is what gives Crystal Palace chance. But they are disputing the relegation.
00:22:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
if they win... and if they win and manage to get their finances sorted, then they'll be in Europe and Crystal Palace could be in trouble. ah ah so I actually read that because of that, Nottingham Forest have stepped in and tried to buy some of Lyon's players to help their financial situation because if Palace get kicked out, with it's Forest that will take the European spot.
00:23:03
Zak
<unk> just a leather of housery that I can't...
00:23:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
yes I mean, it shouldn't surprise you from the club that hired Mark Glattenberg to be their ref watch.
00:23:08
Zak
It's when you forget that...
00:23:15
Zak
No, you're right. I shouldn't be surprised that they're doing that especially
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but
00:23:19
Zak
Especially when everyone... you're right. It's just... Yeah, it it's things that that we never used to have to think or worry about in football. We're going to have to start maybe thinking about and worrying about slightly more.
00:23:30
Zak
Because it's like, what are the implications with things like the Club World Cup going forward? If like Newcastle is owned by same people that own like most of the Saudi Arabian clubs and end up in a final, you end up the same situations and problems.

Club World Cup and European Football Speculations

00:23:41
Zak
Especially with with the fact that FIFA is...
00:23:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but the difference is no one cares about the club woke up.
00:23:47
Zak
it FIFA care? They care so much!
00:23:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nah.
00:23:51
Zak
Or otherwise they wouldn't be pushing it and spending as much money. I'm sick of seeing the adverts for it, to be honest.
00:23:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
it
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exclusively them. if ah this this summer has proved that.
00:24:02
Zak
Have you not watched any of the Club World Cup games, mate?
00:24:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. No, I have not.
00:24:09
Zak
In fact, until I brought it up right now, did you actually remember it was We're only in a couple of days in.
00:24:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to tell you that. Look, I knew it was on, but I couldn't tell you what channel it was on. I've watched more Wimbledon than I have of the Club World Cup.
00:24:23
Zak
I say that, we're seeing the week one, but... Oh, Greg, ah you're right. The Club World Cup is terrible.
00:24:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
just I just have no interest in it whatsoever.
00:24:34
Zak
it's It's just, yeah, I think, again, the the alarm bells are slightly there. We're not in a situation, but like if all of a sudden they change a bunch of rules and all all of a sudden multi-club ownership like this can't can't be and there needs to be separation between church and state or whatever, you know we are going to be one of those clubs affected by it.
00:24:52
Zak
And I just think it would be interesting to pay attention to it.
00:24:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll tell you what, Zach. I live for the day that we don't get into Europe on a technicality and not because we're awful.
00:25:04
Zak
oh da
00:25:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Right?
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, just to be in a position where the thought of that becoming a problem, that's the dream at this point, right? Like...
00:25:16
Zak
Me trying to have a serious discussion about how I'm slightly worried about our Monty club ownership.
00:25:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
you You're right, like...
00:25:23
Zak
You just absolutely flying at the prospect of us to potentially being back in Europe.
00:25:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, one problem at a time, right? We've got to get back to the Premier League first. like
00:25:33
Zak
Oh, what do you mean? Mate,
00:25:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then not have the worst season in Premier League history. like We get those two steps out of the way, and in two seasons' time, I'll have a ah ah really good, hearty, 28-minute discussion with you about
00:25:47
Zak
like a plan.
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
the problem with multi-club ownership, right?
00:25:51
Zak
they sounds like a flag
00:25:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And, did like, to be clear, Gestapo have got get there too. Like, there's a lot of ifs in this ocean before it becomes a problem is where I'm at.
00:26:05
Zak
oh
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I don't know how much credit I put into said ownership of multiple clubs to get all of those clubs in the same place at the right time.
00:26:17
Zak
ah ah You're right. They're far more likely to buy clubs already in Europe.
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. yeah Like... Like, I can see ah ah a more realistic future where you get, like, a fourth tier of European football that sits below the Conference League, where the the winners of the championship and the winners of the, you know, the second leagues around the world will have their, like, European fight-off. Like, the...
00:26:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
the the UEFA Johnson's paint trophy.
00:26:55
Zak
you're You're right. That is where it's heading. do you know what?
00:26:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
teach
00:26:58
Zak
These footballers need even more games.
00:27:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:01
Zak
but Let's just have another European league. Let's make all the trophies meaningless. Chelsea can go drop down and win that as well. oh what a world.
00:27:10
Zak
What time to be involved in football.
00:27:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. You know, the worst part is that, like, we've said that as a joke, but if that isn't the case in five years, I'd almost be surprised.
00:27:21
Zak
Yeah, I know. That's what makes it sad.

Conclusion and Listener Engagement

00:27:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. Anyway, dreams of European football feel like the perfect place to wrap up for the week. Thank you very much, everyone, for joining us. Let us know what you think of the kits or of Sunderland's kit in in the comments or on all of the socials, on X, Blue Sky, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. We're on all of them.
00:27:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Give us a like, a subscribe, hit the follow button, do all of those things. We will be back on Monday with something maybe slightly less crazy than European football.
00:28:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Until then, Zach, thank you very much for joining me. It's always a pleasure, mate.
00:28:04
Zak
Thank you, mate.
00:28:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we will see you then. Have a great weekend, everyone.