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113. It's About the Characters
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Simon & Adrian review director Danny Boyle’s 28 Years Later and director Len Wiseman’s Ballerina. They discuss the hiring of Dune director Denis Villeneuve’s as Amazon’s first James Bond film director, Superman director James Gunn’s recent candid responses about his fledgling DC Universe, and the box office struggles (despite earning 550 million dollars) of Tom Cruise's latest Mission Impossible film. Plus, the boys converse about Andor, Last One Laughing, Vanderpump Rules, You, The Studio, and 28 Weeks Later.
This episode was recorded in Canada on June 28th 2025. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on July 15th for Episode 114.
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Movie Industry Insights
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This episode, we review director Danny Boyle's 28 years later and director Len Wiseman's action film, Ballerina. We look at the puzzling box office results from Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning and break down some of Superman director James Gunn's recent candid interviews.
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while also discussing the recent hiring of Blade Runner 2049 director Denis Villeneuve to direct the upcoming James Bond movie for Amazon.
Video Game Discussions and Adaptations
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My name is Simon Eadie. And I'm Adrian Pinter. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 113.
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la la la la la la la la
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to be at audience let's do it you know where that's from simon you know where from let's do it uh it's a rick and morty no almost almost but it's a video game you recommended me a while back Oh, yeah. High on life. That's why I guess I connected that. oh Yeah. Yeah. It's good stuff.
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Let's do it. That's what I was referencing at the start. There's a sequel coming, eh? To that game. I know. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, that was kind of cool to see. Just because I assumed it was like, oh, this is dead because Justin Roiland was canceled and i and kicked out of that studio.
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Squanch Games. I feel like he was the founder of the i'm pretty sure he was founder of the studio. Yeah, and um he voiced like one of the guns. But apparently they address it in the DLC because they released DLC and he's not in it.
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For context for the audience, yeah the guns talk. Oh, yeah yeah. Sorry. He voices one of the guns because they all talk. Yeah. One of the guns ah guns is Tim Robinson. That's my favorite one. Yeah, that's really good. it's because it's so ridiculous. It's just a ridiculous gun in general.
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Shoots babies out. Tiny weird alien babies. so Yeah. And they they die very quickly. Very quickly. They only live for like 10 seconds. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Yeah.
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Crazy stuff. Dead babies. One way to start the show, you know? Well, that's their life. You know, that's their life. It's like that, that in Invincible, that, that like race of people that die very quickly.
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Yes. Yeah. They think that that those creatures, they live for that long. That's just how long they live. You know, just perspective, Adrian. Perspective. Perspective, dude. Yeah. I love perspective.
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Big fan of it. Yeah. Death Stranding 2 is out, Simon. It is indeed. I know you're playing it. I'm playing it. Yeah. How are you liking Speaking of video games, I guess. Yeah. I really like it. i've only I'm only about nine hours in. it' It's been a crazy week for me, like very, very busy. Like I'm ah not getting as much sleep as I'd like and I'm constantly working.
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but But yeah, i've I've played about nine hours. I feel like you played a lot more because every time I go online, you seem to be playing Death Stranding 2 on the beach. So I assume... Um, okay I'm like 13 hours in, like on the this third chapter. I'm only on chapter three.
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So so i I got to like a certain point in the story and I kind of wanted to go back. I just want to deliver packages. I was like, I'm kind of just vibing. I was like, I want to keep playing the story because I'm very intrigued.
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At the same time, I'm like, there's a benefit to delivering all these packages because then you unlock like better equipment to, you know, to move forward. Yeah. um So I've been, you know, kind of going back to delivering these packages.
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I'm very excited to continue playing this game, and I'm just so curious to bring it into movies because there is a Death Stranding movie being made. We talked about this a few episodes ago. Yeah. And I'm just so curious how they're going to translate it, because like there's such flair and style in this game and in the first one and like just such wacky characters.
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you know, die hard men, you know, dead man, Hartman. This one, you got doll man, tar man. Everyone is just like, they have man at the end of their name. ohmen And except for the women, in which case it's just mama and fragile.
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So it's like, it's cool. But they're also on the nose. Yeah, exactly. and All the names are on the nose as to what they are. Yeah. It kind of gives away what, what, you know, at least some kind of factor of, of their being and what they're about.
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I'm just curious, like how you, how you translate that to film. I feel like whoever, Oh, it's the guy that did, um Oh man, we know the director, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like it's Michael Swinowski. I'm like, how is he? This is a huge feat.
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I'm just so curious. Yeah. Yeah, how they're going to do something. like It should almost be a TV show in a way or like a tiny mini series, like maybe three episodes. That would have been a strategy, maybe six episodes like the classic, you know, British TV show or something. Yeah, I just don't know how it's translated in such a short span of time. I feel like if you watch, I think if you watch like the the movie version of it on YouTube, like some people play the video game and then they translate it to a movie.
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it it's like seven hours of cut scenes. It's strange to like, I explain this game to people often. Like I talk about like the concept of it.
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It's like, it's difficult to just explain the concept for people to really understand what it is, which I find interesting. yeah, so It's like, how are you going to sell it to like in a marketing way?
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But I guess you can in that they're selling the game pretty, pretty well. it seems like the second game is doing fairly well. We'll see how it does, especially like critically, which is which is cool, which is great.
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They just he it seems like you could use the director. of the game, he seems to have just like expanded upon at least on the gameplay mechanics, just make it just everything's refined and better in that. tight It seems like i'm only nine hours in, so maybe maybe it's also the most beautiful game I've ever played ever.
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It's crazy. Wow. It's crazy, dude. that's When the game starts and you're on top of a mountain and you're just looking at the rock detail, the little rocks kind of falling down, it's it's bananas. Like it actually boggles my mind. It it looks so good.
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It so starts with like a ah landscape montage with aerial shots, which is like, Kido Kojima is very cinematic in his storytelling. He he loves cinema. He's a cinemaphile as well.
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But the way they started, I thought that, i'm not I'm wondering if those shots were real life. I'm not sure.
Music and Storytelling in Media
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I think it was in engine. yeah i don't understand how they looked so realistic. The landscapes all look like real life.
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It was very strange. And then then you're like, you're, You're ported over to the main character, Sam Porter, bridge Bridges, and he's just sitting on the mountain and you're like, whoa. And then mine is 61. Oh, yeah, dude. It's such a like a, I don't know, it's an iconic song to start a game with. I feel like people will remember that. It's very memorable.
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Yeah. It's Woodkid, if anyone out there knows the artist Woodkid. He's pretty great. I kind of like have liked Woodkid for a while. Actually, first time i've ever I was ever exposed to Woodkid.
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don't know if you know this or if you had the same exposure. it 13 Reasons Why? no is that ah So the first time I was ah exposed to it was the trailer for Dying Light. It's one of the greatest trailers I've ever seen in any for any game, at at least at that time. Dying Light's what? Came out in 2014.
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So it's such a great trailer. It's Run Boy Run. And it's like that is the song that plays. And it's such a great trailer overall. And the song is great. And that was an instant download ah when it when it on the trailer hit.
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Yeah. But I heard that song from 13 Reasons Why the first season. It's part of the soundtrack. Run Boy Run's in that too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that was the first time I heard it. Yeah, a little later. What was 13 Reasons Why? Was it 2017? 2017, I think. Yeah, something like that.
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So. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. Really cool. yeah I love music in games. I just think he's like. I love music. i thought I just like love music as well. Me too. And in movies. i We talk about this, I feel like a lot on this podcast about film and TV shows and how they use music.
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And I think this as well, this game. uses it in in these vast like landscape sequences where you're walking like in these beautiful environments.
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But yeah, sorry, I cut you off. No, no, no. It just hits, dude. Like as of late, I feel like I've been finding more and more music from like video game media and like TV shows and stuff. Because like I'll do the Discovery Weekly on Spotify on occasion, right? Like I'll do that.
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But, you know, sometimes I just want to listen to like comfort stuff. But so like when you're playing a game or something and a song comes up, I'm like, damn, this is really good. Like I just played through was telling you about it off air, but I played through a game called Sign Our Wild Hearts, which is like an arcade game.
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But it has like the most banging fucking soundtrack, dude. Like I have like six of the songs saved because it's just so good. I jam out to it all the time. And like, yeah, it's just, i don't know, man. I love finding music in media that I'm already enjoying.
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and And, you know, it's just like, and it reminds you of of playing a game or watching a movie and it just fucking hits, man. Audio, I think, is like such a underappreciated you know, art form within the video game industry and within the even movie industry. I feel like there's much a problem. Especially home now because yeah streaming services. That's, I completely agree.
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It's like, that's a, that's a kind of an issue. It's like the way it's mastered, but also the sound systems at home, I think if you took a percentage, I'm sure they have the metadata at the video game companies and that like streaming services for how many people are actually have a sound system that's any good.
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It's not just their TV speakers. I bet the percentage is really badly low in terms of, again, there's a lot of probably customers out there with just like maybe it's maybe it's 5%.
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I don't know. I feel like it's like a really low number of people who don't have just TV speakers. Definitely. Or watching on their phone. with the yeah With the speakers on their phone. And like, that sucks.
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That sucks. always said, when we worked in retail together and like I worked in like home theater, I always said there's like 50% of the battle. The customers would look at me like I was crazy when I was selling them, trying to sell them sound.
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I literally literally believe it. Like it is ah large part of it. Sound effects, sound design, music, Yeah. but The other thing that's cool about Death Stranding in terms of music is that the music is also soundtrack based. Like it's like it's lyrical and it's it's artists, which is as opposed to just having a composer, which is also amazing, like Sino Wild Hearts or a game like Clear Obscure Expedition 33, which has incredible music as well.
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But most games don't dabble too much with lyrical. Like having an artist come in and either perform for the game specifically where they're just using a song. Like ah I feel like a good great example of this is too is Red Dead Redemption 2 uses music. It's more rare, certainly in video games. Not obviously in movies.
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Movies have often used kind of the sound script. Actually, TV shows, you just mentioned it, but 13 Reasons Why and yeah has a really great soundtrack of of music that's not just a score, like musical score from a composer.
00:11:39
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The Twilight movies, dude. um Yeah, that's the best thing about them. Yeah, by far. It's crazy. Yeah, crazy I love it, dude. I love it. Yeah, okay. All right. yeah man Speaking just before we we, although this is not that related to film and TV until probably many years from now.
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I just, i so I want to give some context. You, a few weeks ago, you recommended to me because we I made this rule where I can only recommend one, ah any one person, one thing at a time until they watch that, play that thing. And then, and then if they don't play it or watch it for 10 years, then I never recommend anything else.
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That's kind of my rule. And then you kind of followed suit and you recommended to me, Claire Obscura Expedition 33, the video game that's a 90, over a 90 on Metacritic. critically acclaimed customers have bought it up the wazoo, which is great. And it's, it's anticipated to do very well at the video game awards in December. So we'll see how how it goes.
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But I got, I was playing it and I was playing through act two and I was liking it. I was liking it. i like it overall. It's great. But this weird thing is it happened is it like about, I feel like maybe 75% 85% through act two. was like,
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five percent through act two i was like I'm kind of getting annoyed with the plot, actually. I found that the characters were... There wass ah there' was ah there's a lack of ah question asking from the main cast of characters for like this one person. There's this one guy who clearly knows stuff and they just don't ask him anything. was like...
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This is stupid. I'm so sorry, but this is dumb. And I'm like, I kept going through all like the optional dialogue options to try to get them to ask him so I could find out what the story is because it doesn't make any sense. They're they like working with this person and they don't ask them any questions. And I thought that was ridiculous.
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I thought it was a little bit silly and it was more and more silly. And I was like, I kind just want to get there. And I was like at the very end of Act 2 and I'm like, you know what? Maybe this game's overrated. And then Act 2 ends and I'm like, nah, it's not.
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yeah wonderful how was that Wonderful. Act two, is cra act two crazy. act End of act one, crazy two. But yeah man, I was like, whoa, this is a very creative story. This is a very, the plot line in this, very interesting. I don't know how it's going to go for act three.
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I'm now in act three. But I must say, I was like, kind of blown away by it. Now, that is still a criticism. What I just said is that they don't ask this guy questions. It's fine. It's fine. It's just that I thought for some reason, I also thought that the game might end. And I'm like, what kind of game ends on act two? i was like i don't know what's happening. There's some weird stuff going on. I was like, what's going on? Anyway, i don't want to give it any weight, but it's excellent. And I can see why they're making a movie out of this versus Death Stranding, which Death Stranding is really cool. But the concepts are...
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I don't know, a little wackier and and difficult to translate to film or TV, especially in an hour and a half to two and a half hour movie. But yeah, but yeah, clear obscure, I can see how they could really succeed potentially because it's a it's really cool. And I think that the twists and turns the plot takes.
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I'm ah I'm really pleased with it. It's really cool. I'm playing three games at once. Death Stranding, clear obscure and Star Wars Outlaws. And so nice. They're all they're all pretty great but yeah let's i'm glad you're enjoying it man i'm i'm very glad you're enjoying it i was really hoping that you would because you're not much of a turn-based guy in general but this kind of solves that with the more like interactive battle system like within that turn-based um yeah you know thing which is cool so i was like okay that that's a plus and i i adore this story it's like one of my favorite stories in gaming and
00:15:08
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you know, quite some time. um Yeah. So, yeah, i'm I'm very happy that you liked it. I'm glad that my recommendation hit for you, you know? Yeah, seems like, yeah I mean, it may turn maybe it will turn by the end. We'll see. Maybe. Hopefully not. To be fair, by the end, like, but near the end of Act 2 where I was getting frustrated, I still really liked it.
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um I was just kind of like was like, is this going to go somewhere? Because I'm like, there's a lot of things that there's like a lot of obfuscation. There's like obfuscation of the of the plot. And I'm like, this is a bit too much. like that i Yeah. and that Yeah.
00:15:42
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It's great, though. It's really great. And yeah, I'm playing Death Stranding, this game, they're potentially both Game of the Year contenders. I think they're very likely Death Stranding will get nominated as Oh, yeah. Dude. I'm 10, 13 hours in and I'm like, this is this game is fucking awesome.
00:15:57
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It's crazy. Like, I feel like I fall victim to recency bias quite often. You like I think just like naturally, I think most people do or many people do. Right. And, you know, I'm playing through Death Stranding. I'm like, do I like this more than Claire Obscura? And I'm like, I don't know. I got to see where the story goes because I haven't had much of the story kind of go. But there's something just so wholly unique about Death Stranding.
00:16:19
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Yeah. From a gameplay perspective. Yeah. Nothing has captured that until, again, now the sequel coming out. And they still expand on it. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, how do you do something so masterful? It's.
00:16:31
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He created a genre. Yeah. He created literally a genre. It's like an apocalyptic delivery game where the terrain is the puzzle and there's stealth and fighting combat mechanics, but you're fighting these strange factions that don't make a lot of sense. It's our world post-apocalyptic, but and everyone's separated and they're unconnected. and like Sam Porter Bridges played by Norman Reedus. Big name actors are also just motion captured, which you don't see that often yeah as much in in games as much anymore or as much anyway.
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It's just not that common. I feel like you get ah the occasional voice, but not always. like I feel like what's the what's another game that I'm even thinking about? I mean, I guess Horizon does it with...
Streaming vs. Box Office
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um lance reddick lance reddick but it's not fair as common alone in the dark it could have yeah jody comer and david harvard do so well but it's not great yeah i was playing it and i got i don't know maybe two-thirds of the way through with one of the characters i'm like i just i'm not enjoying it it doesn't click there's something that doesn't work because it balances like this like old like old timey like 50s almost detective aesthetic with horror and
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And I just don't think it does either of it well. And there's like these, there's disparities in the story. Like there's one but maybe it all gets revealed at the end, but it's like, I'm not going to get to the end now because there's this point where was i was playing as Jodie Comer.
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And really good performance. Like she does, just does great. We're going to talk about her some more actually. Yeah. Cause she's in a movie that we, we both watched. um But like, she like meets this kid in this weird mansion, bunch of weird stuff's going on.
00:18:06
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So this weird, you know, stuff happens. And then it goes into like the horror mode by herself gets out of it. Cause it's just like these big cuts. Like she'll walk into the room and then all of a sudden it's like a fifties. Like, Hey, I was like, Oh, and,
00:18:19
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And then, you know, like she'll walk into the horror thing. But then so she meets this little girl and is like, oh, this girl is fucking weird, whatever. And then like 15 minutes later, she walks up to this other guy and like, hey, have you seen this little girl? And she's like,
00:18:33
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no like like you just There was a scene 15 minutes ago where she was just talking to that little girl. Like the exact girl. Polish. Polish is the issue. And again, it's like maybe this gets revealed. Maybe Jodie Comer is a crazy person and she's part of this crazy house.
00:18:49
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And that's going to be the reveal. But it's like I don't care. I'm not going to get that far. You know, like, because interesting I don't know. There's something about, there's like a lot, there's a lack of that a lot, a lot in the video game industry in general.
00:19:00
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Like where there's like this, like a lack of play testing that would have caught stuff like that. And I feel like PlayStation Studios games typically don't suffer from that at all. Like they overplay test things, which is really great because it's polished to like a ah fine sheen.
00:19:13
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A game that I really love that's like AA, they call it AA because it's just not as much funding for the for the title, but Banisher's Ghost of New Eden. I think you would actually really like that game. And I think it's excellent. And I think it could have been a game of the year contender. I'm not even kidding you. I'm kidding you if they spent like six months more to polish out the systems because it's excellent. The story is really sad and poignant.
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It's like a... <unk> it's very It's very great. It's great. I'm shocked though. But it's just not, it's not, well, it's good, not great, I guess. Because they did they just, they're so close. So close, but they just didn't polish it because they, I guess it's a lack of play testing and like the comment mechanics are good, but not great. It's all good, but not great. The plot is probably the best part about it.
00:19:52
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Yeah. It's just, even like the voice actors and the lip sync and all that stuff is like, that's okay. I wish it was so much better because it could have been literally that one of the best games of 2024. Yeah, it came in last year.
00:20:03
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I think so. That seems right. Yeah. Oh, that's running. Speaking of horror also has horror elements as well. It's just crazy, like ghostly creatures you can't see. There's like dealings with like life and death. The realms of life and death is like it's open world action adventure horror. What game is that? It's so strange. He create a genre. I do a Kojima. It's impressive.
00:20:23
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It's pretty crazy. For a strand type game. stra Yeah, I was talking to somebody. A strand type game. Yeah, strand type or strand like. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Okay. Well, let's move on. Let's move on now to a few quick bites of film and TV industry news, Adrian, because we are split focus of film and TV podcast, not film and video game podcast. So ah the first thing I got to here as ah as a quick bite of news here is that Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning.
00:20:51
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maybe the final Mission Impossible movie starring Tom Cruise, directed by Christopher McQuarrie, had a $400 million dollars budget, which is very high, and likely around $150 million dollars marketing budget, which would mean that they...
00:21:08
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that they would have to kind of make a billion dollars to break even. And the movie is currently earned $550 million dollars and we're many weeks a month, I think.
00:21:19
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Yeah. About a month past the date of release. So that's sad, I would say, because $550 million dollars for for any movie would most likely be considered a success.
00:21:31
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yeah Movie tickets don't go up in price based on how much a movie costs to make. So that's kind of sad to to see. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. but i Yeah, it is unfortunate, but we also have to take into consideration a lot of that budget is because this filmed – during COVID as well, similar to dead reckoning.
00:21:51
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And i think, again, they kept on paying their staff and had all their staff on kind of standby when yeah the lockdowns were occurring. Right. So like, yeah, but the money men, you know, the people in power, are they ignored they don't care. We are acknowledging it.
00:22:06
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Yeah. But do they care enough to make another mission impossible? Is that why it's the final reckoning, Adrian? Maybe, maybe, maybe. It felt like the end though, in a lot of ways, just because again, it was a love letter to everything that came before it. There's all the flashbacks.
00:22:24
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There's all the connections to the different movies. It, it ends in a way where like you could keep going, but I think this is a nice place to end it personally. I'd be okay if they never went back to mission impossible.
00:22:35
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I, I, I love this franchise. I really enjoyed it. Um, but I, I just, do we need it? Do we need to keep going? Let let Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuarrie make another franchise where he's doing crazy stuff because aren't they going to space or something?
00:22:50
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Not actually going to space, but they're doing that space action movie. Actually going to space. Oh, wait, they're actually going to space. well That was the thing. Yeah, wasn't that the thing is that they're actually going to space. That was the point.
00:23:04
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They're going to film it in space. That was the the magic of it that they wanted to do. Damn. That's That's a leded crazy thing. He wants to the crazy thing and go to space. But I feel like that's many years away because I feel like yeah that would cost so much money too.
00:23:17
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that But he's got he's got like another three projects, I think, with Macquarie. I don't know if he's going to be in every one of them, Tom Cruise. But I think there's there's a few more projects that they're working on that will be exciting too. But yeah, here's my prediction.
00:23:30
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Here's my prediction, all right? We may not remember this. You may not remember this prediction exists, but I'll just say this. I think they're done with Mission Impossible for the next five years at the very least.
00:23:42
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But it will come back and Tom Cruise will star in it. And people will be like, whoa, this guy's 70. How is he doing this? That's what going to be. that's that's That's my prediction. That's my hot take here.
00:23:55
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I think it's coming back for sure. I think they make it look like it's it's it's over and then they're going to do they're gonna pull like a... The Dark Knight Rises situation, although that was always planned, but you know what I'm Batman comes out of retirement. Like, oh, Ethan Hunt's coming out of retirement. And, oh, he's holding the side of a biplane again while it floats through the air. But he's 70.
00:24:17
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but he's seventy Yeah, that's my thing my theory. We'll see. Maybe. That'd be cool. But it's, yeah, here's what I'll say about this too. And I think this is an important thing to note when you we're talking about the Thunderbolts movie too, which had a big budget and they were worried that it was just about to break even and maybe it won't.
00:24:35
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Here's what I think about this. Thunderbolts, if you think, actually, Black Widow is a good example. yeah Black Widow did a simultaneous theater release. but he's did Yeah, right. Theater release with Disney Plus, right?
00:24:48
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I think so, actually. Now that you mention it, that reminds me. Right. Black Widow had a big budget, right? Yeah. And a lot of people didn't go to the box office. they didn't go. Because they did just watched it on Disney+. Yeah.
00:25:00
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yeah Right? there was No, wait. Was that the time when they had that premium access situation? Maybe this is a bad example. I remember. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. The point I'm trying to make, though, is that theres there's a lot of doom and gloom in the industry when you look at these articles about box offices.
00:25:16
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When the the real thing is it's it's box office is important, but once afterwards the film is done and it goes back to streaming, they're still making money off streaming because that movie is there.
00:25:28
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So the people they didn't like capture in box office money, they're going to capture in streaming subscriptions, theoretically, especially in a big movie like Thunderbolts, which people heard is good.
00:25:40
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Like it generally like generally is really great sentiment around it. And it's well-liked. The Final Reckoning, fairly well-liked. It was an 80 on Metacritic, Rotten Tomatoes. So it wasn't quite as well-liked as the previous entries in the series.
00:25:55
Speaker
yeah I don't know how Dead Reckoning is reviewed better. It's like a 95 or something. What? I don't know how that's possible. But anyway, because it's just not better. Final Reckoning is a better movie in my opinion. But yeah regardless of that,
00:26:09
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That is something to know. And I feel like, again, when you read any of these articles, they're very doom and gloom. But in reality, they're getting a second shot at it with streaming because they're still going to make money afterwards.
00:26:21
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um probably in a bigger way than, well, maybe not a bigger way, but as as back then, I was thinking but a bigger way than even like Blu-ray releases back then. Yeah. um but But definitely Blu-ray releases now. It's definitely more of an impact than that.
00:26:34
Speaker
But again, if if they were willing to put, my point was, if they were willing to put it on streaming right away and they were going to and they're still spent millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars to make these movies, that obviously streaming is making the money in a different way that we're not quantifying because they they they would have to show their metadata or their,
00:26:51
Speaker
their metrics to determine how many subscribers they gained per yeah per film or whatever it is. So, I mean, Netflix only puts stuff on streaming and they make huge movies as well. And they, and they clearly, they're one of the biggest media companies in the world.
00:27:04
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I think there's top three or something like that. Crazy. Black widow was on the premier access. It was like $30 apparently. ah This is from business insider.com, Simon. So yeah,
00:27:16
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so Okay. So a bad example. But HBO Max, HBO Max did it. but Yeah, with Dune. With Dune, which was
Personal Anecdotes and DC Universe Updates
00:27:25
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ridiculous. That movie also cost a lot of money. And then they put that on streaming and people were looking at the box office. It's like, well, the box office isn't telling you all.
00:27:32
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And so even if you only have like a few months, if you have a few months between the release onto streaming, you're going to get more money from streaming post-Dune. the film released in box office. And it's not a do that doom and gloom.
00:27:44
Speaker
Now, but for Mission Impossible, do I think they're going to make back the extra $500 million? dollars I don't know about that. But Thunderbolts, I think is profitable. Overall, I think Disney probably internally looks at it and says, could have done better, but honestly, did pretty well. they also yeah hired Jake Schreier to direct X-Men, the director of Thunderbolts. They hired him as the director of X-Men, which is coming up.
00:28:08
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And that's maybe one of their biggest temple movies in the next little bit. Obviously, they've got Avengers, so it's not going to beat that. But anyway. yeah Sorry, Simon. I apologize to interrupt. i got I got to go check something out. Cassandra's just ah messaging me with something with our pool pump.
00:28:24
Speaker
I apologize. Your pool? Yeah, like ah my pool pump. You have a pool? Yeah. It's a little pool. an outdoor pool? Yeah. Like in ground?
00:28:35
Speaker
Above. Oh, above ground. Yeah. Huh. Did you buy it separately after buying the house? are you No, it came with the house. It came with the Oh, okay, cool. That's cool.
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. It's probably more maintenance to do for you, but... Hence the pool pump problem that you're having right now. Yeah. But yeah, I'll see you in a bit. Yes. Sorry. Sorry. I apologize. one one Give me like five minutes at the most. I apologize.
00:28:58
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Okay.
00:29:03
Speaker
Okay. I'm back. sim and um I apologize about that. Far, far less work than I was, I was worried about that the outlet it was plugged into. Cause we had a big thunderstorm last night. I turned off the pool pump. Um,
00:29:14
Speaker
Cause didn't want there to be an electric shock, but the outlet that it was plugged into, like it, you just had to hit the reset button on it. Right. So it's good. Pull pump's good, man. Right. That's good. False alarm. All right.
00:29:28
Speaker
Okay, well, let's move on to the next bit of Quick Byte news. um There were some candid moments from James Gunn. I mean, what moments aren't candid for James Gunn, I guess, but on the Superman press tour recently.
00:29:38
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ah Superman's coming out on July 11th, so that's pretty exciting. But he mentioned that a DCU project that is unannounced is his favorite project. project coming up which is interesting but he has also known about this project since his announcement for the overall dcu when he was hired on in 2023 but he doesn't want to reveal it to avoid it being ripped off by another studio before release i don't know you have any thought on that but i thought that that was an interesting situation i have no idea what that could be don't know maybe
00:30:12
Speaker
Yeah. yeah That's very interesting. Yeah, I'm so curious. What could it be? Is it a TV show? Joker's 3, maybe. Yeah, it'll be ripped off. Yeah. I don't think they can rip that off. But if any if it was something that could be ripped off by another studio, it must be something that's not super original from the perspective of like dc DCU, prop like IP.
00:30:31
Speaker
You know what i mean? it can't be an owned licensing situation. So must be something that's more generic about the DCU for it to be I don't know. I don't know enough about the DC universe, to be honest, like the comics universe to to make this make sense, I suppose. but Maybe it's just Jimmy Olsen going around the world doing reporting.
00:30:51
Speaker
And they're going to, we're going to rip that off? um Yeah, maybe. they're like, wow, this is a cool idea. Yeah. I don't know. I genuinely have no idea. Like that's yeah that's the thing.
00:31:02
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It's an interesting move too. It's like your big movies coming in. It's like, it's not even my favorite thing. I made it, but it's not my favorite thing. We got, we got something even fucking cooler coming that nobody knows about. It's such a weird marketing play. It's almost absurd, you know? if if I don't think it's intentional, though. I'm not sure James Gunn thinks about it very much. Like he tweets so much.
00:31:22
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And he mentioned so many things on Instagram and various social media and he talks to interviewers very often. So I feel like he's just he just throws so much stuff out there. And then whatever the media like latches on to is kind of what hits the.
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's the airwaves kind of thing. But anyway, ah yeah, the other thing that's really cool. This is really cool. I'm really impressed and I'm shocked that like Marvel hasn't done this already.
00:31:48
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But for upcoming DCU TV series, they will have previously on the DCU style re recaps to give context about the greater DCU storyline.
00:31:59
Speaker
How has Marvel not been doing this? It's so confusing. The Disney Plus shows are so confusing if you you haven't watched the whole thing. I've watched the whole thing, so... For me, it doesn't matter, but the context matters for them. if you want to Especially if you want to create more meaning for the overall story arcs, you kind of have to give recaps so that you don't make customers feel like, I keep calling them customers, it's a bad way to do it, viewers, yeah fans.
00:32:24
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and You don't want them to jump into a story and think, oh, this doesn't make any impact on the on the Marvel Cinematic Universe or DCU. And then Vice versa, you don't want them to jump in and say, I have no idea what the hell is going on.
00:32:37
Speaker
So this is like a happy middle place where you could explain what what has happened previously. Anyway, i don't know if you have any thoughts on that. but No, i'm happy dude, I love this. I think this is a genius move. and It is one of those like, how the fuck didn't the MCU think of this? like it it is It's one of those, it seems so obvious, but it was never brought up.
00:32:56
Speaker
So I'm curious, you think we're going to see this in Peacemaker season two or is this kind of good? I think so. I think that's what he was alluding to as well. I can't remember what the article was, what interview this was, but yeah, I think he was alluding to doing that, which is good.
00:33:10
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Yeah, cool it's strange. Maybe the hesitancy for Marvel is that they're worried about spoilers, but then look at their trailers, you know? like yeah Like, they give away, like, plot points in the post-movie trailers that just give away, like, huge pieces of their movies before people have maybe seen it. Like, a day after release, they're just, like, spoiling Thunderbolts. Like, what yeah what's the point of that? So, like, if you're going to do that anyway, why haven't you done these he recaps?
00:33:38
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yeah and But maybe you can opt out. And on streaming services, you have the option to opt out of the recap anyway. if you don't want the context, you can just hit skip for the recap portion portion of like whatever the show is coming up. Loki.
00:33:49
Speaker
like ah and No, Loki's not coming up, but Ironheart is. Or Ironheart just released. Two pretty good reviews. Yeah, I sent you ah an image on Rotten Tomatoes because the audience score and the like review, the critic score was 69 for both. i'm like, nice. Yeah, I'm sure that's changed at this point.
00:34:09
Speaker
I won't tell you what it is, but I'm just checking it to see if it's dropped by a massive amount. I will say it say it if it's way lower. Oh, wow. Close to the same amount. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to spoil your fun, you know.
00:34:19
Speaker
Oh, you're looking at it. Yeah. Oh, you're not afraid of spoiling your nice situation. Of Ironheart? No. Like, I don't know. i probably won't watch it. But funny funny aside, Simon. Yeah. So, obviously, I can't use her to Disney Plus anymore.
00:34:33
Speaker
Right? I got kicked Yeah, yeah. yeah And I was like, I got the bears coming back, which I'll talk a little bit about like season four. um And I was like, you know, now's the time to get Disney plus.
00:34:44
Speaker
And but i was like, ah I'm going to wait. I'm going to see if there's any like free trials. Bought tickets to ah John Mulaney. He's coming to Toronto in September.
00:34:55
Speaker
So bought tickets. And through Ticketmaster, when you buy the tickets, oh, here's some special offers. And one of the special offers was like, get Disney Plus Basic for $3 a month for three months. I'm like, oh, at that.
00:35:08
Speaker
Perfect timing. hu Basic sounds horrible. speaking It's not great. Speaking of having good sound, you lose out on the sound. of Wait, wait. And there's also three ads. no they don't they don't remove. Disney's great for that. That's the one great thing about Disney is that they don't remove better sound quality and better quality of picture with their lower tiers, which is awesome.
00:35:28
Speaker
There's a lot of ads. That's the greatest thing about it. It sucks. There's like three like three minutes of ads per an episode of TV. You're paying $3 and you get that many ads. Yeah. Pretty bad. and So I got it.
00:35:39
Speaker
And so I log into my new Disney Plus account. I'm like... I'm like tempted to send Disney the wrong message. So I started playing the first episode of Ironheart.
00:35:50
Speaker
So they have like this, this, this, this data where it's like, oh my God, someone actually got Disney plus for Ironheart. Oh yeah. But then I didn't actually watch it. And then I switched over to the bear.
00:36:02
Speaker
Um, Oh, that's probably going to send them a different message. Yeah, exactly. I feel kind of bad about that. I'm sure it's, I mean, again, it's, it's reviewed. Okay. It's middling. Like, I mean, 74 is good.
00:36:14
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Audience score. I don't, I don't really believe that. So this is something that's pretty funny. You sent me the message. You sent me the, the, the screenshot of it being 69 69 audience score. And I,
00:36:24
Speaker
as you just said, and critics score, right? Yeah. But then you're saying, and then you said instantly, but we all know the audience score is going to drop because there's a bunch of crazy crazies on the internet.
00:36:36
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And this show has predominantly like a diverse cast in it. So there's no way it will stay at 69. Sure thing. and Sure enough, it's 59 now.
00:36:46
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So that was a good prediction on your part. 74%. It actually rose in audience in critics score, sorry, but then in audience score, it dropped 50%. 10%, which is yeah so predictable. So predictable.
00:36:58
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And it's... So, like, one thing I want to point out about what you said, like, this is a genuinely diverse cast. It's not, like, where people are are like, oh, like, Black Panther is a diverse cast, and it's all, like, you know, black people, right? And Martin Freeman.
00:37:12
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And Martin Freeman. um Yeah. Whereas, it's like, in Ironheart, it's like, yeah, it's a black female lead. There's Alden Ehrenreich, a white guy. There's Anthony Ramos, who I assume is Yeah, his last name's Martinez. So I'm going to assume he's like a Hispanic dude. Yeah. Right? So like, right it's a genuinely diverse cast in that way. yeah So it's it's kind of cool to see.
00:37:38
Speaker
I don't know. Apparently, Sacha Baron Cohen is in this fucking show. and so To be fair, oh cool. Really? Oh. Yeah. Now I want to watch it even more.
00:37:49
Speaker
Me too. I'm kind of... I'm kind of curious now. Wait, what? He's in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? But to be fair about the diverse casting, that doesn't really matter to me. I don't think it should matter to anyone.
00:38:02
Speaker
Both directions. Does it have a lot of diversity? Oh, good. Cool. That's great. i let you know It's nice to see everyone get jobs. And then on the other side, it's like... Is like only black people or only white people? that should just Why does it matter so much to people? And to the point where they're reviewing it negatively, even more so, that's crazy.
00:38:21
Speaker
That's the crazy part of it, is that they're reviewing it negatively because it's woke, because it has a diverse cast. what do we What kind of world are we living in? It's nonsense.
Hype and Expectations in Entertainment
00:38:31
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and Dude, ah woke has lost all meaning. I don't know if you saw online, but when they announced that new James Bond video game,
00:38:39
Speaker
And it's like young James Bond, like white dude. And then people were playing and like, oh, it's like woke James Bond. I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean? part was woke about it? i Dude, I don't know. That's the point.
00:38:49
Speaker
That is the point. It's lost all meaning. You have these fucking psychos online saying this word. I genuinely, if anyone uses woke unironically in any argument, I immediately think you're stupid and your point is invalid.
00:39:04
Speaker
I'm not even joking. Like, I think if you don't know how to express your feelings without fucking saying woke, ah a word that literally doesn't fucking mean anything anymore. Right.
00:39:17
Speaker
It's stupid, dude. It pisses me off. Sorry. yeah Anyways. Yeah, ridiculous. Yeah. It's ridiculous. yeah ited it's ridiculous It's ridiculous. Moving on to more about the DCU. One last thing. I think it was the one last thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So James Gunn also said that we should get off and get off matt director Matt Reeves nuts about the Batman s sequel. Again, there's the candid responses from James Gunn about the Batman sequel script because it hasn't been given to, hadn't been actually until last night from the moment we're recording this podcast.
00:39:49
Speaker
Yeah. It hadn't been given to to James Gunn yet. And now it's done. So and we don't really have to talk about the fact that people should get off James Gunn's nuts. But honestly, that just goes into what we just talked about the internet being a bunch of crazies.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah, really? It's like there's a bunch of people just harassing Matt Reeves online. Clearly, why would he have to think? Why would he think to even say that in an interview unless that was happening? Anyway, the quote that James Gunn said was, quote, people should get off matt ah Matt's nuts because it's like, let the guy write the screenplay in the amount of time he needs to write it.
00:40:23
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That's just the way it is. He doesn't owe you something because you like his movie. I mean, you like his movie because of Matt. So let Matt do the things the way he does. I like that.
00:40:34
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Yeah. I like that. Right. James Gunn seems just like he's like, he seems relatively down to earth. I like how candid he is a lot of the time.
00:40:45
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He's also one of the few people that will literally debunk theories online where people like, I heard that they're bringing in ah random character and into the James Gunn universe. And he'll just be like, where the fuck did you hear that?
00:40:58
Speaker
I was like, no, this wrong, dude. Yeah. Cosmic book news. I haven't seen cosmic book movie news as much anymore. Maybe it's because Google knows that I don't like it.
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah. So it just doesn't show me the articles. But maybe the guy offed himself because he's he's living a life of just pure negativity. Maybe. That's kind of sad still, though.
00:41:20
Speaker
It is. don't want to off himself. But anyway, yeah, James Gunn doesn't like the runaway train of hype, which I appreciate because runaway trains of hype, as proven ah many times, even though you may have the best intentions in mind,
00:41:33
Speaker
are not good. A great example of this, and I will always say this, I don't think that No Man's Sky was marketed in the way that people think it was marketed. I've always said that. It's a big video game now. It was not that big at launch.
00:41:45
Speaker
No Man's Sky, there was things said about it, and people took that what that the snippets of what the creator, Sean Murray, said and then made them a runaway train of hype that people thought it was going to be the craziest space game ah It's a game that takes place in outer space, a huge open world, open universe game.
00:42:04
Speaker
We can go to billions of planets. It's insane. But you couldn't actually go to billions of planets because you wouldn't have the time. But there are billions of planets you could go to, and which is nuts.
00:42:14
Speaker
And this game is crazy now. they They've improved upon it from what people... That's actually now the thing that people thought it was going to be, I think. um The thing that they didn't necessarily advertise it to be, but...
00:42:26
Speaker
Yeah, runaway hat hype, a bad thing. It's just bad. It's bad. So don't, don't let it get away from you. I feel like it's a good strategy, but most creators are very quiet. They just be like, nah, you'll see it when you see it. And yeah, you can judge it then, but okay.
00:42:40
Speaker
All right. Speaking of James, James Bond, Adrian, um although that was a few minutes ago now at this point, but, dead and I think maybe that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to create a segue for us, but I failed it.
00:42:51
Speaker
Anyways, didn't even move director of Dune and prisoners and an arrival. Blade Runner 2049, dude. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite. had to forget that one. That's probably my favorite movie by him.
00:43:05
Speaker
But regardless, he has been hired on as director for the next James Bond film. ah Producers David Heyman and Amy Pascal are producing for Amazon's MGM Studios.
00:43:17
Speaker
Still no James Bond actor named yet. But what do you think about this news? I know you don't like James Bond or really not necessarily like it, but you're indifferent about James Bond from my perspective. Or maybe you don't like it because you didn't really love Casino Royale.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah. What do you think about this? Because you like Denis Villeneuve quite a bit. I do indeed, man. I do indeed. This is a way to get me into the James Bond universe, honestly. was thinking that.
00:43:40
Speaker
I watched Casino Royale. Again, I didn't hate it I just didn't like it that much. I was just like, I don't really like James Bond as a character, really. He's kind of a prick. and i don't know. it just It wasn't doing it for me. Maybe it was a place in time thing. But I just i was not vibing with Casino Royale. And that is the only James Bond movie I've ever watched.
00:43:59
Speaker
So i have like no connection to the, this James Bond fella, but I do have a connection with Denny Villeneuve. I love his movies. Um, he's just got like, he's one of the most brilliant directors in the industry. Like he's on the level of like a Christopher Nolan, in my opinion, like that just create creates bangers after bangers. And I'm going to be there to watch all of their movies day one sort of thing.
00:44:24
Speaker
Um, So, yeah, again, this is a way for me to get into James Bond. I don't imagine Denny Villeneuve is going to make a movie that I'm going to like, i don't like this, um even if I don't really love the character.
00:44:36
Speaker
So we'll we'll see what happens. um But you like both Denny Villeneuve and James Bond. So how do you feel about this, dude? ah I'm pretty pretty excited about it. The problem was is like there's like a lot of negativity around this because amazon people directors don't seem to like Amazon. We talked about this before.
00:44:55
Speaker
But it was kind of an interesting move to hire on like David Heyman, the producer of Harry Potter, and Amy Pascal, the producer of like the Spider-Man, like the very popular recent Spider-Man movies in particular.
00:45:06
Speaker
yeah I think that this is that was a kind of a good move. And then hiring Denis Villeneuve, he's like a visionary director, and then you hire him for James Bond. It's pretty cool. like I'm really curious to see what he can...
00:45:19
Speaker
pull off with this. Christopher Nolan was apparently interested in James Bond ah with the Barbara Broccoli like the and um Michael G. Wilson when they were the producers of the series. there is yeah and Apparently, I think Broccoli didn't want to hire Nolan for some reason. Maybe his his idea for the script wasn't something that was up their alley.
00:45:38
Speaker
but That would have also been an interesting one if Nolan had been tapped to direct. and still It still makes me sad that Broccoli isn't in charge just because I feel like the Broccoli family, because they've been stewards for so long, like they know the character so much better than anyone else on Earth. There's no one else, I don't think, that knows the character. And so that's kind of an interesting thing is what does this look like? We've not really had a James Bond in modern times.
00:46:03
Speaker
Actually, I don't think we've ever had a James Bond at any point that hasn't been stewarded by that family. So what does that mean? But Denis Villeneuve, big fan apparently of... James Bond.
00:46:13
Speaker
ah That's what... that's what since Since childhood, he said in ah in a statement that he was a big fan since childhood. And and so it's like a dream come true to to direct the first of many films. I think he made it seem like he's only doing doing one for now. Unless they...
00:46:28
Speaker
We'll see what happens, but it's pretty cool. that's it Because the next movie is Dune 3, right? or So this is the thing that is curious. I love that you pointed that out. i almost forgot because I put didn't put that in my notes.
00:46:40
Speaker
Denis Villeneuve is directing and attached to like three projects right now. So when is this movie happening for James Bond? I imagine James Bond takes second film.
00:46:51
Speaker
second project to Dune 3 because he's in the middle of that and that's filming next year I believe so or is it filming this year um gotta remember now Dune 3 production date but other other than that he's got another two projects that are just like in the wings that he we we've talked about it actually Oh, no, actually, Dune 3 is being filmed. My mistake is being the production starts at the later half of 2025, according to this deadline. Interesting, yeah.
00:47:24
Speaker
So that's definitely first and then James Bond, but we've already waited a long time for James Bond because James Bond is always – that's one of the good things about James Bond actually is that it's never – they don't really – the movies don't come out that
James Bond and Film Marketing
00:47:38
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often.
00:47:38
Speaker
There's a lot of movies, but theyre come they come out in a pretty great pace. Like they never – they make sure that they capture the audiences with with like a – People want it. You know what I mean? they're they're They're waiting for a while and then they really want it because they're like they miss it.
00:47:54
Speaker
It's good to kind of create the idea of missing something before you you bring it back. like a great example of Disney not doing that was with the solo movie for Star Wars. like What the heck were you thinking?
00:48:05
Speaker
like but it' It's just a close proximity to um The Last Jedi. It was just a bad move and people didn't seem to know that it was a different Star Wars movie in some circles. Yeah, that's kind of it because The Last Jedi was still in theaters, I think, in some theaters, even when so the Han Solo movie called Solo Star Wars Story came out.
00:48:23
Speaker
Yeah, you can make a lot of money on Star Wars if you plan it out well and you space it out well and you make really good movies and TV shows and you put them in in like a pocket of time where people are kind of missing missing it. It's helpful. James Bond, people are definitely missing it probably already because it's been a while. ah Because Broccoli and ah and Amazon were kind of...
00:48:43
Speaker
like going head to head, try to get their way for a long time. And then they obviously didn't have a director. We don't have James Bond. My theory about James Bond is it seems like the rumors. And I ah saw at a tiny snippet of an interview with a er Aaron Taylor Johnson in an interview for 28 years later.
00:48:59
Speaker
it looks to me like there's a chance he's already been... cast but not announced but we'll see i have this weird feeling because if somebody asked him a question about what's your next movie or something like that and he was very coy about it and it was very strange and there was he was rumored to be the cast that casted james bond for a while so there's a good chance it might be him but uh but i don't know maybe deniseul neuf does he like to hire the same actors Not really.
00:49:29
Speaker
Yeah, he's not like a Nolan. yeah like He's not like a no and Nolan yeah or or Tarantino. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's true. So yeah, it could be anyone. Yeah, it seems like it could be Aaron Taylor Johnson, honestly.
00:49:42
Speaker
That seems like a likely choice. I mean, he he it's not like he hasn't done it. Like, he had Jake Gyllenhaal for both enemy and prisoners. so Yeah, that was pretty early in his, like... um
00:49:57
Speaker
when he was starting to get big. Enemies. Did you see Enemy? I can't remember. I did, yeah. It's really good. Yeah, it's really good. These are prisoners, right? No, that's actually the one movie I haven't watched by him.
00:50:08
Speaker
And it's like, I know I'm going to love it, but it's like, I got to sit down three hours. my fiance doesn't want to watch it. So I got to like be in the right place, right time. And um right I wish they would bring it back to theaters or something.
00:50:20
Speaker
It's like longer movies. I have a tough time watching them at home. Especially if I got to watch it by myself. Because i like there's too many options to be like my mind to wander.
00:50:31
Speaker
And that's a movie I want to fucking sit down and watch, dude. But don't know. Maybe I'll get into a zone where I'm just going to sit and watch it. Because again, I know it's phenomenal. it's I mean, I guess he he has directed things further back maybe.
00:50:46
Speaker
But I think that's like one of the, his only movie that I haven't. There's one of them. Enemy is one of them, yeah. Yeah. So an enemy and prisoners were the same year.
00:50:57
Speaker
Funnily enough. But again, Blade Runner 2049 is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it's a, it's a, it's immaculate. Yeah, it's excellent. Are you gotta to play the James Bond game? Me? You think?
00:51:08
Speaker
You're not really an IO Interactive, the the publish like the developer. Developer, no. Fan. And publisher, actually. They published it, too. yeah but ah But yeah, i don't know if you'll jump in. I don't know what it's going to be like. Because IO Interactive is the Hitman developer.
00:51:22
Speaker
yeah And they have a very distinct style of game making. And I love Hitman. But I'm wondering how this will translate. It's interesting. We'll see how it goes. I'm curious to see like that...
00:51:33
Speaker
It would have been nice if they could have had the synergy going with the movie and the game, but it doesn't look like that'll happen because the game, I think, will be out way before the movie. And usually movies and TV shows can get out faster than games, but in this case, because they couldn't decide on anything for like years, like that's why this isn't happening.
00:51:53
Speaker
Maybe they'll get this ridiculous Moneypenny show out before... on Amazon before they, before the, uh, the game comes out. Cause the synergy is helpful. Like the cross media synergy.
00:52:05
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it It definitely is. There's many moments of that. I think cyberpunk edge runners is a great example of that. The last of us was a great example of that. People went out and bought the game when the show, like the second season of the show was airing.
00:52:18
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Uh, I think Neil Drucken said something along the lines in an interview that it sold an extra 2 million copies in the timeframe of the show airing. i'm like, that's awesome, dude. Yeah, yeah. So it definitely works.
00:52:29
Speaker
It definitely works. So ye but that's useful. but But I don't know if they're going to really get anything off the ground before that. But okay, cool. That's good. Good stuff. All right. Last bit of kind of news, but not necessarily, is trailers. There's but been a lot of trailers, as there always is in the last two weeks. We record our episodes every two weeks on tuesday they and they launch every two weeks on Tuesdays.
00:52:51
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Um, so this bi-week we had, uh, a few trailers. I feel like I missed quite a few too, but feel free to chime in with anything you, you think, uh, is more stand, stand out ish, but the naked gun trailer starring Liam, Liam Neeson.
00:53:06
Speaker
Uh, there was a two more Eddington trailers, which is strange cause I don't understand why they're releasing them back to back. There was two of them. The first one I thought was excellent. And then I saw the second one was like, whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, like slow your roll. you don't need to necessarily do that.
00:53:18
Speaker
But anyway, cause the first trailer was really great. The first, yeah, I first, trailer we saw together we see many times is the teaser but the trailer trailer like the full first official trailer that came out like two weeks ago right that was really good it was was like shocked how good these trailers are they're like really built the third one i can't remember the final one right i didn't watch this like it just came out like a few days ago haven't seen it and i was like i'm gonna watch this movie it's so close like why like why doing two trailers back to back it's weird yeah that was my same thought process so i haven't watched the most recent one is it you know what's interesting
00:53:53
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know if it revealed. I think it's real the same thing. They're just kind of re diced it, I think. But like um the thing that I find weird though, is when you cut a trailer and it's really good is the Marvel obviously does this too much. We just talked about how they released too many trailers. It's problem. And they released too much information in the trailers, but I find it ridiculous that like, if you make a really, really crazy, good cut, like the Eddington first trailer, the big trailer yeah they launched a few weeks ago was really good.
00:54:23
Speaker
So why bother making another one? Because, hi, let's say I watch it and I'm like, oh, did you see the Eddington trailer? And then anyone would just be like, yeah, but they don't know which one because there's too many of them. there's there's ah There's an idea that you can just kind of make your marketing more concise and it would actually help you in a way.
00:54:39
Speaker
And I find even like if I'm looking online and looking for the trailer and I find the wrong one and I don't realize it's a different one. You don't need to make multiple, especially for Eddington. Marvel is different maybe because they get to such a big movie and seem a Superman.
00:54:52
Speaker
um There's maybe be a few too many Superman trailers to be honest as well. um Because there was another one that was just released I think last week too. they're like final trailers. Like guys, your trailer is good. You don't need it. I really just don't like have a bit of mystery that you don't need to.
00:55:07
Speaker
add more scenes anyway. But yeah, okay. go I'm moving on from that. But Naked yeah naked Gun trailer, two more Eddington trailers. The Roof Man. i don't know if saw the trailer for this. Bugonia.
00:55:18
Speaker
The Bugonia trailer is crazy. It's really good. There's a Final Fantastic Four trailer. I'm just going say right now I didn't watch it. ah but And any other trailer you want to mention? Anything you want to point out? um So I have no attachment to the original Naked Gun movies. I watched this new Naked Gun trailer. I think it played in front of something we watched, like maybe Valerina or something.
00:55:38
Speaker
don't remember. yeah i No, no. Where did it play? Nowhere. I feel like we saw... Not you and me. Oh, wait. 28 years later. No, it wouldn't be because it was a comedy. No, we never saw it together. I watched it. oh It was a new trailer. They had the teaser, the one with Liam Neeson. I saw that one many times. The Liam Neeson's in a ah ah skirt in the bank. Oh.
00:56:00
Speaker
That one, you might have saw of the ballerina. But there was like a full trailer where he's like farting in the car and stuff. So that he's having gas issues. I don't know. Maybe I didn't. I'm trying to remember. All I remember is...
00:56:13
Speaker
They're all standing or something. ah Yeah, they're they're all standing in front of like pictures of who I guess their parents are supposed to be from the original cast. And there's the one guy standing Yeah, was the teaser.
00:56:24
Speaker
Okay, then I see the teaser and the guy's like standing in front of the OJ. you I just described this confusion and we're we're we're living it now yeah there's too many trailers so we don't know which one we're talking about yeah see that's the problem but anyway the full the full trailer first full trailer was pretty good I'm kind of kind of interested in this I saw i saw Naked Gun way back like way back in the day I think I saw like the first one with very slapstick style of humor um Nielsen yeah yeah yeah no um but the roof man I I
00:56:58
Speaker
um But yeah, the roof man I did watch seems interesting, actually. Yeah. it Yeah. I like this. i guess it's based on a true story. ah Channing Tatum plays like this ex or this convict that escapes prison and then he lives in like a roof of like a Walmart or whatever. Right.
00:57:15
Speaker
And yeah it seems like a fun, fun premise. Honestly, i like Channing Tatum. It's also funny. His name's Jeff in this and it makes me think of 28 sorry, 21 Jump Street or 22 Jump Street, when he's how am I named Jeff?
00:57:31
Speaker
Oh. Look at that. You remember? um But yeah, i was like, this looks really interesting. The Begonia trailer, I didn't watch, actually. I have no idea what that is. okay. Begonia is, ah it's Yorgos Lanthimos.
00:57:45
Speaker
Oh. It came out really recently, like a few days from when we're recording this. Oh. looks really good. Yorgos Lanthimos has like the, like, such an interesting style of filmmaking like uh what was the last one i saw it seemed like also it's uh emma stone is in almost every yeah every movie lately that he's been making but i saw the one that got nominated for best picture poor things poor thing oh sorry you said it yeah Yeah, poor things.
00:58:16
Speaker
we Really good, but really crazy. ah It's really crazy. I'm just looking at the roof man, though, for a second. And I'm just looking at who is the director for that. And it's ah it's Derek Sonfranc.
00:58:31
Speaker
Which... He's the director of, like, ah The Place Beyond the Pines and Blue Valentine. o And I know this much is true with Mark Ruffalo.
00:58:46
Speaker
Interesting. I didn't. Yeah, that is interesting. Let me just take a look at the writing. He also wrote. Whoa. He also wrote The Sound of Metal. Oh, that's a great movie. Yeah, this good track record.
00:58:59
Speaker
Damn. Kind of exciting. Actually, I'm curious about this. And he wrote Roofman and he directed it. Interesting. It's really crazy because like that trailer has like eight million views on YouTube.
00:59:12
Speaker
Roofman? Yeah. 8.1 million views. I'm like Channing Tatum, dude. Dude, crazy. We love Channing Tatum. He just brings in people. I like Channing Tatum. He's good. He's a good actor. He's funny.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yeah. Peter Dinklage is in it. don't know if you said that already. Yep. ah No, I didn't say it. And Christian Dunst is also in it. Yeah. Which is cool. That's cool. So yeah, it looks neat. There was also a new weapons trailer.
00:59:35
Speaker
didn't watch that. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't watch that. I didn't write it down because I didn't watch it. Yeah, it's a good point though. Yeah, I didn't want to watch that because that seems like it's the magic is in the mystery. Mm-hmm. Of that i start that talking about movie. Looks fucking awesome. That one I'm much.
00:59:49
Speaker
So there we talked about that but trailer a little while ago. The first trailer. And we watched it. And then there was the other one. What's the other horror movie? The the one about like codependence or whatever.
01:00:00
Speaker
The one with Allison Brie. together together yeah i'm much less interested together actually i have to watch the trailer and see the marketing i'm like i'm okay it just seems like at the body horror aspect i'm not sure i'm that interested weapons though legitimately because i'm just i like the mystery horror and the drama horror like that's more my speed like yeah that just seems like it's going to be really creepy and and and like really like uh together is just gonna be really creepy and Yeah, I'm not sure that's maybe going to be um up my alley. if Yeah, there's just too many movies, to to be honest, coming out in this like small time frame over the summer.
01:00:34
Speaker
And I'm just not sure. um We don't get to them all. way i I shouldn't say we're not sure. and I don't feel like we ever get to all of them. yeah So it's going to be tough for us to to watch all of them together anyway.
01:00:45
Speaker
I'm sure you're super psyched about together as well, but. I'm, I'm, I'm, I am. I mean, I love Alison Brie and I'm a big fan of Dave Franco. Alison Brie was one of like my big celebrity crushes.
01:00:56
Speaker
Um, oh like from community, like, and I think she's just a phenomenal actress. I really like her. And, um, I also think Dave Franco is awesome. He plays himself in the studio and he's so fucking good in it, dude. Like he's, he's so good.
01:01:11
Speaker
Um, But yeah, like it. Yeah, I'm very curious. I mean, it's 100% on Rotten Tomatoes with like 40 something reviews, dude. It's pretty wild. And it's a horror movie, like a body horror. I'm not huge into body horror, but I do enjoy it from time to time.
01:01:23
Speaker
This is a movie I really want to watch. But if you don't want to watch it, my fiance definitely doesn't want to watch it. Um... Maybe this is solo trip. Just ask me when its when it's when it's coming out. When is it coming out? Beginning of August.
01:01:35
Speaker
We'll play it by year. got to play it by year with everything. There's just too many movies. It's insane. it's what without't even though I hope this is really good for the like our local theaters. That's kind of yeah the the main thing I'm hoping for. I think we're going to be seeing more movies at a higher volume over the little next little bit. so We're going to go once a week at this point. yeah For the entire summer.
01:01:55
Speaker
for the entire summer um Yeah. I just feel like we're busy people. yeah You more so than even me. Like, I feel like you're a pretty busy guy. So I'm a busy beaver, dude. We can make the schedule work. But yeah.
01:02:06
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Well, that's it for the quick bites of news. So that's ah' now Adrian. Sorry. Watch out. you have something? Oh, i just so I just did sound
Rapid-Fire News Montage
01:02:15
Speaker
effects. Sorry, Simon. Sorry. I didn't give you a chance to say, do you have anything else to say? I feel bad. Anything else to say?
01:02:20
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No. Okay. Okay, cool. Okay, now on to the montage. A sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the bi-weeks smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict.
01:02:32
Speaker
Okay. Number one. As Deadline reports, actor Samuel L. Jackson is set to headline creator Taylor Sheridan's Tulsa King spinoff crime drama series, Nola King, at Paramount+. plus Jackson will star alongside Sylvester Stallone in Tulsa King's third season before the New Orleans set, Nola King, premiere.
01:02:52
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Number 2. Disney has
01:03:01
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i haven't watched any of his shows but i've seen him in sons of anarchy number two disney has taken full control ah streaming service hulu after finalizing the deal to purchase the last third of the service from previous partner nbc universal The overall purchase price was around $9 billion, dollars and the deal is meant to streamline Disney's streaming offerings.
01:03:24
Speaker
That's crazy. That's so much money. Number three. Punisher actor Jon Bernthal has been cast as Frank Castle, aka The Punisher, in the next Tom Holland starring Spider-Man film, Spider- Brand New Day, which currently has a July 31st, 2026 release date. He's going to fucking shoot Spider-Man in the face. He's just going to kill fucking Tom Holland in the most brutal way. It's going to be so shocking. Number four.
01:03:50
Speaker
According to Deadline, The Social Network writer Aaron Sorkin is looking to write and direct a The Social Network Part 2 that is based upon the Wall Street Journal's The Facebook Files by writer Jeff Horowitz.
01:04:03
Speaker
Oh, interesting. I still got to watch The Social Network 1, Part 1. Number five, as Deadline reports, Raised by Wolves showrunner Aaron Gusakowski is writing the screenplay to an animated film adapted from the universe of director Hideo Kojima's science fiction video game series Death Stranding.
01:04:21
Speaker
Yes, this is super cool because it's not adapting the game. It's a new story in the universe. Number six, as reported by publication The Hollywood Reporter, stick actor Owen Wilson has been cast to reprise his role in the upcoming fourth installment in the Meet the Parents franchise, where Ben Stiller's Meet the Parents character will now play one of the parents referenced in the franchise's title.
01:04:46
Speaker
Wow, cool. I like these movies as a kid. I think I've only seen Meet the Fockers and... And meet the parents. Or whatever. The first two. Whatever the first two were. Number seven.
01:04:59
Speaker
As announced by Disney, a live-action Lilo & Stitch 2 has been greenlit and is now in development. Oh my god. I still gotta watch this live-action Lilo & Stitch 1, dude.
01:05:10
Speaker
Just not enough time, dude. Not enough time. And that concludes the montage. Growl.
01:05:19
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black Super, super, super. All right. Good stuff. Good stuff.
01:05:28
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Yeah. All right.
TV Show Reviews and Critiques
01:05:30
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Well, ah it's time to move on now, Adrian, to what we've been watching this week. And I've watched a lot of things. I'll throw it to you first. um I'm going to talk very little about the things I've watched because we we also watched two things together that will take up a lot of our time as well.
01:05:47
Speaker
um But feel free. Talk as much as you want about the things you've watched. Okay. What time have you watched this week? Okay. I've watched a few things, but i'm going to save two of the things that I watched in relation to one of the movies we watched together.
01:06:01
Speaker
Okay? Because it's it's a part of like the entire conversation. Does that make sense? Yes. Does that make sense to you? Okay. Fantastic. So I watched the first two episodes of The Bear Season 4. And I really like it, actually. It's... I think it's kind of solving the issue that a lot of people had with Season 3, which I still really liked, where Season 3 kind of ends exactly where it began with the same characters, right? And there's there's no, like character growth.
01:06:27
Speaker
And I think... they realize this and very quickly in these first two episodes of season four, there is already significant character growth with the characters that ah essentially stayed stagnant in the entirety of ah season three.
01:06:41
Speaker
There's also almost like a, don't want to say a lighthearted tone, but there's more hope in this, despite it being like a very like, Hey, like anxiety inducing, there's a time limit shit that's kind of being set up, but there's, there is something, there's a level of levity to it.
01:06:58
Speaker
That is honestly kind of needed. um Like I don't want to be constantly stressed watching a series of television. It's nice, but I feel like they, they, they took a lot of the criticisms of as of season three and are bringing it into season four, which is weird because looking at the reviews, the like season four is reviewed the worst. And I, I honestly believe that season four is better than season three, at least with these first two episodes, maybe it goes downhill like crazy, but I'm, I'm really enjoying it.
01:07:25
Speaker
Have you watched any of the bear season four yet though? No, I've got so many shows I'm watching simultaneously and so many video games I'm playing simultaneously. It's just too much. It is. oh no Yeah, it is a lot.
01:07:38
Speaker
But um it's it's really good so far. i'm I'm excited. I want to keep watching it. And it sucks because, again, there is a lot of shows that have come out. I still got to finish Andor. I still got – I mean, Squid Game just came out the other day, which I want to watch.
01:07:50
Speaker
Too much, dude. Too much fucking things to watch. Yeah. The bear is... I just resubscribed to Netflix, too. And I don't subscribe to Netflix for more than a few months at a time. So I'm probably going to do Squid Game next.
01:08:02
Speaker
Nice. Yeah. Before the bear. Because you're watching... and yeah You were watching you see the final season, right? Or have you started that? Yeah. I you were talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting through that. We're getting through it. I'm just looking at the scores for... It's interesting for...
01:08:16
Speaker
The bear. The bear is reviewed better on an audience perspective for season four than season three is. But season four is not that far off of season three, right? It's like, what, 89 versus 82. So it's 7% difference. Okay. That's not really – it's almost negligible.
01:08:32
Speaker
Yeah. It's just an aggregator. But yeah, it's interesting. I feel like the best season is exactly what it's how it's reviewed here. it's ah The bear season two is 99% on Rotten Tomatoes. And I think that's – who is the 1%? Like what kind of an asshole – who reviewed that way that's what i think taste man they got no taste don't know but um i also started re-watching you with my fiancee because she's never watched it so we're we're on oh sorry me i'm sorry you paused there yeah i was hoping you yeah you dude you But yeah, we're watching. So we're working our way through season one. ah Social cues.
01:09:14
Speaker
Not my strong suit in that moment. Don't worry about it. Don't even fret, brother. um But yeah, we're so we're rewatching season one. We were going to watch Stranger Things, but then I was also kind of like, well...
01:09:26
Speaker
Stranger Things isn't out until November. So like, let's watch you. It's done. We can kind of get through that, uh, slowly and then we'll hop into a stranger things and hopefully kind of like lead up to the November release.
01:09:37
Speaker
So, um, it's great, man. You is really good. It's like, at least that first season, i remember really liking seasons two and three. And I, I remember like in four, but I think it was the weakest, but like, there's this level of absurdity to it that lends to like this comedy,
01:09:54
Speaker
yeah All throughout the show. It's just so over the top and absurd because it's used. It starts Penn Badgley and he's like this ah essentially a stalker, like a crazy stalker. And like, you know, likes this like when he when he sees like a woman.
01:10:08
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. You know, he sees this woman um who's played by the girl. um Oh, my God. what' What's her name? that The woman. She's in Five Nights at Freddy's as well. move The character's name is Beck.
01:10:21
Speaker
Yeah, Beck. um But yeah, he like sees her and is just instantly in love with her. And like, it's like, what lengths is he kind of going to, to um Elizabeth Lale is is her name.
01:10:34
Speaker
like to date this woman. And it's just, it's so funny, man. And like the characters are so interesting as well. Cause like no character in the show, like he like idolizes this woman named Beck, but she kind of sucks. Like when you really watch her and like her actions and everything, like she's not necessarily a great person either.
01:10:53
Speaker
So it like lends to like, everyone's a little bit flawed and it's really good. I really like you. um And then again, I watched a couple of movies, but I'll wait to bring these up until we talk about, another movie. So you tell me, what have you watched, man?
01:11:06
Speaker
What have you watched? So I think the best segue is to go to you, season five. So I'm not while rewatching it. um And um it's it's fine. No need to rewatch it.
01:11:17
Speaker
It's good. I do like it too. Season five, I feel like has a slow start. i What i I like best about you overall is the creativity in which the writer's room seems to like evolve the story and change up the situations in which Penn Badgley's character, Joe Goldberg, finds himself in.
01:11:36
Speaker
I think that's the best part of it and it. And it doesn't really try to do the same thing twice. It typically changes it pretty fundamentally, even though a similar idea. This guy's a crazy person and you're just watching him. And he's the craziest thing about the show, I think, is that he's narrating and you're watching this crazy guy as if like he's like the he thinks clearly that he's the hero of his own story. And that's the beauty of it when he's clearly the worst.
01:12:00
Speaker
And so that's the great thing. This season is pretty good. i do find that the Bronte character kind of annoying. I got to say, she's written kind of annoying. I'm not sure I like her, but you'll see. You'll see her.
01:12:11
Speaker
You'll see her in season. You haven't gotten the season five, right? No. okay Was she in season four or no? No, no. New character. New character named Bronte. I'm just going to leave it there. You can agree or disagree when you watch I want to spoil anything, but I don't love...
01:12:25
Speaker
and I don't love that character. I don't know. It's it's funny because ass like I almost and almost changed my mind on it. I'm like, oh, this has actually gotten interesting because again, they always evolve the story. They always do these little twists and turns. They love they love the little twists in series. Yeah.
01:12:40
Speaker
And so they do these twists and turns just like they do every season. And I'm like, oh, OK, maybe she's cool. And then it's kind of just goes back. It's it's kind of fun. it's It's fun. It's fun.
01:12:51
Speaker
It's a fun show. It's fun to watch. Yeah. The first few episodes felt like a bit of more of a drag. We weren't in maybe in the mode for it, but it it feels good. It's cool. it's I'm just curious to see how it ends because it's the last season and.
01:13:04
Speaker
What's it going to be? How's it going to go? I don't know. We'll see. But anyway, so that's ah that's u season five. And then I watched many different things as well.
01:13:15
Speaker
I've been catching up on the studio. You've talked about that a lot. And I don't want to go into that too much because I haven't gone to too much on that show yet. The Warner episode, the second episode of the series, very good. I know you talked about it. Very good. yep The second episode, the third, sorry, the third episode is what we got to next. I think the one with Ron Howard.
01:13:32
Speaker
Very good. Oh. Oh my goodness. Ron Howard is really great. I just feel like he's a good actor and he's a good director. And I think he's just great. I like Ron Howard a lot. ro out that oh there was a mo Wait, wasn't there a trailer from Ron Howard?
01:13:44
Speaker
Am I crazy? Ron Howard is directing something soon. And I thought I just saw something from... ah let me so That's funny that i just thought of that. Because I saw him in the studio. And then, yeah, it's a movie called Eden.
01:14:00
Speaker
No, I never saw. No, there was a trailer for it. Did you watch this trailer, Eden? I watched the first trailer. Because, yeah, it's like, yeah, Sidney Sweeney, Anadarmis, Vanessa Kirby, Jude Law, and they're like yeah stuck on an island together with Daniel Brühl.
01:14:16
Speaker
Yeah, I watched the first trailer. that The first trailer came out many months ago, I think. Yeah. What a cast. Jesus. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be interesting too. but but But anyway, yeah. So studio, very, very good. it's it's It's great, the dedication to the direction, like the directing process that Evan Goldberg and Seth Rogen have taken with this show. Because it's not just a one-er episode. there's There's a lot of one-ers. They really hold the shot. And that's part of the anxiety-inducing aspect of the studio
01:14:47
Speaker
My fiance doesn't really like the studio. She finds it too stressful. And there's not honestly a lot of likable characters, which is actually shocking that you like it. Cause you, you always talk about not liking things cause you don't like unlikable characters.
01:14:59
Speaker
There's very few likable characters to this show. if If there's any likable characters at all. So I'm actually, it is a curious question. Is that maybe something that, you like to reassess or is it something that you just kind of find that the filmmaking process is so good here that you just you give it a pass or is there anything yeah i think there's a level of comedy to it right like it's like oh so it's calm if it's comedic and it's unlikable characters then it works and okay that's yeah like it's like i don't know like think of it like i i like it's always sunny i watched the first like seven seasons i really liked it they're the worst fucking people on planet earth same with seinfeld yeah
01:15:34
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's true. Yeah, okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. Yeah, you just don't like the drama over self-serious people and then they're also a drag to watch because they're just all assholes. That's fair.
01:15:44
Speaker
Okay, cool. Yeah, it's good for my knowledge, for my recommendations. But but that's good. But yeah, so I really like it. I think it's great. I just think the way it's shot and the way it's done and the actors in it and the cameos in it are are really cool.
01:15:58
Speaker
I just, every episode, there's some new little thing. It's like, oh, it's... You know, it's Ron Howard and let's who's going to be next? And so it's really great. It's awesome. And I like also we've talked you talked about this specifically, like how we were kind of interested interested in the industry. So this idea of it kind of leeching our interest of the industry also leeches into our interest of the show.
01:16:18
Speaker
So you kind of see this filmmaking process like that one or episode was about making a one or which is great. It's a very poetic. It's a one or about making a one or. And yeah, it's cool.
01:16:29
Speaker
Okay, well, that's that. I also watched a lot more of Invincible Season 3. That's why I mentioned it earlier at the top of the show. I've been trying to get through that. ah This is kind of the show I don't watch with my fiancé.
01:16:43
Speaker
And so that that's been cool. That's been cool. I like that show. It's pretty great. I do enjoy it. I think the voice actors are really good in it. I think that's pretty cool. I'm curious to see how it ends.
01:16:54
Speaker
I don't really remember season two and the difference between season two and season one. They just blur together for me. Yeah. Or maybe I'm wrong. I don't even remember. Am I on season two? I have to go back. I think I'm on season three.
01:17:05
Speaker
The bug people, right? The bug people are in season three, right? No, I think that's season two. I'm on season two? I've been writing season three the whole time. I'm on season two. Okay, yeah. I haven't watched it since the first season.
01:17:17
Speaker
Yeah, because the first season ends with a bang. Like it ends with a yeah big finale. Yeah, okay. So yeah, it is season two. Sorry. My mistake. Anyway, season two, pretty good.
01:17:27
Speaker
Are we sure it's season... I thought so. That doesn't seem right. You must be right. You must be right. Okay. Andor season... Yeah, they're they're done season three, right? like that That was the most recent season. Okay, yeah. Then it was season two. I'm confident. yeah Okay.
01:17:42
Speaker
See, Andor season two, the final season of Andor, I've been watching steadily, but ah ah steadily in like the slowest way possible, if that makes sense. I've been watching it. I haven't stopped watching it, but I've been watching it like...
01:17:55
Speaker
Very spaced out, almost like I'm watching a week to week by accident because there's just so much coming out. um I'm also doing that because I'm watching playing. I'm sorry, Star Wars Outlaws. So that part is there is a poetic nature of it, like being in the Star Wars universe, playing a character in the Star Wars universe and then watching and or because of how great and or as production values are and in like their production design and their costumes and on top of how incredible their acting the storyline is and the way it's directed it's just such a great show that it's you saw episode three of and or right like the episode three is probably my favorite one so far by far i think i'm on episode five or something like that so i'm like about halfway almost about halfway through so it's pretty
01:18:37
Speaker
Pretty excellent as, as would the first season. So did you finish it? no No, no. I mentioned, ah yeah I was going to watch it and then, yeah yeah. And then I, I was going to watch it on the plane and then you convinced me not to watch it on a plane. When I came home, your Disney plus didn't, i didn't have access to it anymore.
01:18:55
Speaker
So it's like, I can't, I can watch it on the Disney basic, but it's like, now I got to watch it with fucking commercials. The sound design is so good too, though. You don't regret it, right? Nicholas Bertel's score. It's so good. It hits so, so hard. It's amazing. I mean, like I'm listening with AirPod Pros, dude so it still sounds good.
01:19:10
Speaker
but But you can't if you're on a plane. Yeah, like the the noise canceling is good, but it does take away from it to hear the drone of the engines of the. Yeah, guess so.
01:19:22
Speaker
Okay, ah last thing I watched here. this one's ah a little bit of a wild card. We watched this with like like the odd you know little dessert at the end of the night on occasion once once a week or something like that. We were watching Last One Laughing, the UK.
01:19:37
Speaker
and I really like this show. I just like the idea of it. I used to play this game when I was in drama class in high school. And so like you yeah have this competition to see who, who would not laugh, who would not laugh.
01:19:50
Speaker
Basically who would win by not laughing. And you'd go around and try to make the other people playing it on stage laugh. And so this is the, a bunch of comedians in the, in the same room. It's like a game show where it's like known comedians in various countries. They come together. There was a Canadian one, but this is the one for the UK. Yeah.
01:20:07
Speaker
We got Richard Ayoade in this is probably the the most well-known comedian in there. And yeah, it's pretty pretty fun. It's pretty funny at times. It's pretty well cut. I'm hoping for the American one because there haven't they're the only one they haven't done is the one in the US. And this is this is an Amazon Prime show. And obviously, Amazon's an American company.
01:20:29
Speaker
So like, are they really having a tough time finding any American comedians? They have so many of them. You don't have to get big ones. like They're not really getting the biggest comedians to do these shows anyway.
01:20:42
Speaker
They didn't get Seth Rogen on the Canadian one. So it's like, you don't have to go crazy. Just get a few comedians that, that would be willing to do it. I get maybe the, the, the price isn't right for these comedians where they want the, the weight, like the salary isn't good. I don't know. I have no idea, but I feel like it just seems like a fun day. Like it's, I think a shot over the course of six hours. So I don't think you need, oh like it's strange. That's interesting. So is it like six episodes or?
01:21:09
Speaker
Yeah. Six hour long. That's not really six. Yeah. But they're like 40 minute episodes. and i Understood. Yeah. That's interesting. That's kind of a cool ah setup. Yeah. The Canadian one one had John Lajoie. John Lajoie.
01:21:22
Speaker
I feel like I'm not pronouncing his name right. Is that the only guy you know there? No. Tom Green, dude. Jay Baruchel. don't really like Jay Baruchel. I know there's something about Jay Baruchel that just. Jerry Baruchel's not on it. He's the host.
01:21:33
Speaker
Oh. Is Jimmy Carr the host of the UK one? Yes. Yes. Okay. I really like Jimmy Carr. He's funny as hell. Okay. There you go. Yeah. the Interesting. the Oh, man. The most most well-known Canadian dude on there is the whose line is it it anyway guy, I feel like. Colin Mockery.
01:21:53
Speaker
like i Yeah, Colin Mockery. In like ah month or two. like some Would you say that guy's coming to Kitchener for like a like a stand up show at center of the square, I think.
01:22:03
Speaker
OK, interesting. Interesting. That's cool. That's good. Green as well is pretty big. Yeah. but Yeah. ah Anyway, he's a father. Yeah. I mean, I guess like if we're talking about comfort food, we we started watching Ultimatum Queer Love.
01:22:16
Speaker
the the second season that just came out on Netflix. yeah I don't know, man. I'm like, I was talking to my fiance about this. Cause like I, I, I like reality TV, right.
01:22:28
Speaker
But I think Vanderpump rules was just so good. And again, you you think I'm doing a bit. i am not. I genuinely love Vanderpump. I don't think you're doing a bit. That's awesome. That's why I'm making this face.
01:22:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's so good. And it's like, it's a storyline over the course of 11 seasons. I'm watching these characters grow and evolve, these people grow and evolve. And I got so attached to them that now it's like watching these kind of reality dating shows.
01:22:55
Speaker
it's It's like an anthology series that just doesn't hit as hard. like, you know, and then so like, we're also watching the valley, which is technically a spinoff of Vanderpump Rules with some of the characters from Vanderpump.
01:23:07
Speaker
And like, I'm liking that like, I like that more than I'm liking queer love. ah He just shrunk a little bit. Yeah, he's one down there. I move my chair down a little bit. um And then yeah, I don't know. It's just, it's just not hitting his heart. I don't know. But there is. Yeah, I don't know.
01:23:24
Speaker
And then we we we're also watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It's on Disney Plus on Hulu. And I'm more into that too. But it's because you're watching characters. Like it's like a consistent story. Well, yeah. It's like these characters are fucked, dude. They're messed up. These Mormon wives.
01:23:38
Speaker
It's not necessarily like not not all of them are. But I think I mentioned it. Like one of the one of the women on it like like posted a TikTok a while back where she was dancing in front of her like dying baby. And it's like, what?
01:23:49
Speaker
That's so weird, dude. Yeah.
01:23:53
Speaker
They're not good people, a lot of them. Obviously. I'm confused, though. like Aren't Mormon... Like people from like the Mormon religion, aren't they like more prudish? I'm confused. Isn't that a thing? So some of them are, and it's interesting because they kind of, they, they talk about the Mormon religion quite a bit in that show and how different it is. Like some of them are far more progressive than others and traditional, like some are more traditional and it's like, they, they, they talk about how like,
01:24:24
Speaker
um toxic a lot of the religion is especially amongst men and like how controlling men can be within the religion and it's cool that they they touch on that i wasn't expecting it for whatever reason and then they so it's like they're they're not afraid to talk negatively about the religion they're in and like talk about how there should be some more change in it and like they'll they'll highlight some of the women it's like man you're in like a very bad relationship with your husband because he's more traditional and he's like, he's putting you down and it's like, you should get out of that.
01:24:55
Speaker
It's interesting. ah Again, it's, it's quite, it's quite good. ah But I'm assuming there's a lot of scandal in this. Am I wrong? There But how can that's, I guess they're human. So I guess that makes sense. But it's like, there's this the aspect of like, do they seem less prudish than like the average people that you know in your life? That's why I'm confused. Like some of it's Mormon.
01:25:15
Speaker
yeah So like, I don't understand this. I don't want to watch it to find out. But anyway, okay, cool. yeah Good to know. Anything else? No. Anything else you've been watching? Okay. Well, again, i have, but we'll talk about that.
01:25:28
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, well we're going to do it
Action Film Reviews
01:25:30
Speaker
now. We're jumping into it. Let's watch the... would you want to go in chronological order from what we watched in theaters? Okay, so we'll start with Ballerina, a John Wick story. What was that? Ballerina, John Wick. From the world of John Wick.
01:25:42
Speaker
A John Wick mystery. Yeah. Yeah, from the John... yeah that's right. From the world of John Wick, Ballerina. That's it was. It was colon. Yeah. What are your thoughts? So this is... Sorry, I'll give you a little bit of preamble, I guess.
01:25:53
Speaker
It's... Oh, I... I almost said it was Anya Taylor-Joy. Ana de Armas is the ballerina lady. She's a person who shoots people in the head and ah fights people.
01:26:07
Speaker
and yeah Explodes people, dude. She fucking explodes people. It's an action film, of course. It takes place in the John Wick universe. It does not is not directed by either David Leitch or Chad Stahelski. It is directed... Who is it directed by? Yeah. wait To be fair...
01:26:26
Speaker
It kind of was directed by Chad Stahelski, to be fair. Because they did a lot of reshoots. um It's Len Weissman, though, is the director. Yeah. So, like, they did a lot of reshoots for this movie, I remember.
01:26:40
Speaker
And I think Chad Stahelski was the guy doing the reshoots. And it was my understanding. I i read an article on it. I can't remember where. mitt Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm pretty confident this was the case that Len Weissman was not around for those reshoots.
01:26:55
Speaker
So it's like, I think it's kind of a mix of the two of them. Okay. I can't remember. Where did I read that? I want to say maybe I was like Hollywood reporter something. um Here, let me. Interesting.
01:27:08
Speaker
Yeah. Ballerina Chad Stahelski reshoots. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. This is written by Shea Hatton and Derek Colstead. Oh, no, it's not. It's just Shea Hatton, really.
01:27:20
Speaker
It's based on characters from Derek Colstead for John Wick's characters. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, just way you're looking this up, I guess. I liked it. i think the the I think the fight choreography is really awesome. I think it was very creative. And i think I think one of the things that's really good about the John Wick series is how much creativity goes into the fight choreography.
01:27:41
Speaker
yeah That's the probably the best part of the entire series is that they never they never seem to do the same thing twice. or Or it's very, they at least do it in a different variation of what it was. I think that's important. some of the thing Some of the fatigue I have with Marvel actually is that some of the fight sequences are kind of, they just don't feel that different.
01:27:59
Speaker
um in some but in some spots and some of them it's great yeah lot of a lot of fight choreography and marvel is good but it just that's kind of the thing that they really take their pride and and i guess it makes sense because the stunt coordinators are are the gentlemen who started the series to begin with like chad stavowski and david leech But yeah, what did you think of this this film? i I had problems with the plot, actually. it's just to give my high-level thoughts, the end of my bird's eye thoughts. but Yeah, yeah. I think i had a couple problems with this ah plot as well, just because of technically this takes place during John Wick 3 slash after John Wick 3 as well. like
01:28:41
Speaker
And there's these moments where characters, I guess, show up when they should it because theories of the timeline, if that makes sense.
01:28:51
Speaker
It doesn't make any big. Like, yeah, yeah you know I think they don't take their story as seriously. i my brother watched John Wick one, I think, and he thought it was garbage.
01:29:06
Speaker
That's crazy. And he thought there was no story or whatever. He didn't like it because it's just action and that's it. The thing is, is that what I think of, I like about John Wick's plot line and storyline Is that what they do is they take they they take these simple concepts of the way the world works and they do world building in a very simple way and they don't really contradict themselves very often.
01:29:28
Speaker
They have some things that don't make sense on the action like the freaking bulletproof freaking jack jackets. It's cool. It's not going to work that way. um'm It's cool. Sorry. But it's fine. Use like a suspension of disbelief. It's like, okay, fine. That's in university. They make it work. But I'm talking about like the way that the hotels work, like the the way that the the overall like the hitmen work in this world and the way everything seems to be analog and these various things and everything seems to make sense within the world.
01:29:53
Speaker
But this movie kind of didn't in the way that, again, characters show up in spots. Don't make sense. Keanu Reeves' character does it shows up in spots. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. I don't think there's much to spoil there to be honest. Yeah, fair enough.
01:30:04
Speaker
Like, I don't want to say anything specific about that, but I just feel like it's weird. yeah like why How are you here right now considering yeah where what's happening in John Wick 3 slash after John Wick 3?
01:30:17
Speaker
Yeah, that that that I think is very weird. And i again, I feel like that's just kind of like, we need John Wick in this to bring more people to theaters. Obviously, it doesn't seem like it's working because this movie is not doing too well.
01:30:28
Speaker
um financially, which is unfortunate. But I do think like this movie is really fun. um And again, captures that action. It's cool because it's not like they're doing the same, like, like as you mentioned, like it's unique fighting, right? They're not doing the exact same fighting.
01:30:44
Speaker
Like John Wick doesn't, or sorry, Anna Darmus's character doesn't fight the same as John Wick does. And it's because they got different body types and they they acknowledge that in the movie. And the one thing this movie I think does really well as well is that we talked about this actually right after the movie.
01:30:59
Speaker
This movie understands power dynamics between characters better than like the Marvel Cinematic Universe as an example. Yeah. It understands how powerful someone is. And even if you know a character is kicking ass, if they go up against another character...
01:31:14
Speaker
That is, you know, better than them. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. In pretty much every way. They don't beat around the bush. It's like, no, that person is going to kick the person's ass. More skilled and that's it. Yeah. They're more talented. They're more skilled. And here it is. We're not going to pretend.
01:31:29
Speaker
they could They could lose to that person, but you have to show the weaknesses in which they they press the pressure points to make that happen. ah John Wick is the most powerful character in that universe.
01:31:40
Speaker
You show that very clearly. it's there There's no reason to pretend that it's not that because of the character or sorry, the movie being called Ballerina. It doesn't you don't have to do that. It's OK.
01:31:51
Speaker
You can you can specifically specify. And that actually makes it more interesting because i agree. We are flawed human beings in real life. These characters can be flawed in the in the in the movie. And how do you overcome those flaws to to win the day? I think that's important. yeah And i hope the MCU learns that. I hope that with the Russo brothers in charge of the next Avengers movie that they they go back to the roots of yeah of doing that type of thing.
01:32:14
Speaker
That I think is important. But I guess we'll see. but Yeah, definitely. And um though my like I did have a couple of gripes with this movie. like We talked a little bit about it with Mission Impossible where it's like the plot serves the action.
01:32:29
Speaker
not not the action serves the plot. And like this movie is literally the plot serves the action. Like it just pushes, it's just putting Anadarmus in situations where crazy stuff happens. The action is the plot, though. I make that argument that there's there's there's a there's a certain movie kind of movie here.
01:32:44
Speaker
But then again, the plot does suffer, though, from not being tight enough. like it's yeah It's so simple. How did you not make it tight enough? like It's overall, even like the character development, I found Anadarmus is kind of like, I don't know. like Who are you, really? like ah yeah I don't know. I'm not completely sold.
01:33:01
Speaker
ah But the main problem was, of course, the the weird, weird're like you have to shoo in certain characters to make it sell better. yeah And I feel like what they should have done, because when the movie starts, it's like Anna D'Arma, she goes on kind of like her first mission and she like fumbles a lot, like and gets her ass kicked. And it's like it's pretty like it's pretty rough. And then.
01:33:23
Speaker
After that, I was like, oh, man, this going to be cool because we're going to see this character get essentially her ass kicked a bunch. um But like yeah persevere in the face of that. And I think they have that first awesome like fight scene in that like ice ah bar, which is fucking such a cool like idea. And they use the ice in the fight as well and slipping and sliding. And i love that. Like choreography was really awesome.
01:33:47
Speaker
And then after that, it's like a three-month time jump. And then all of a sudden, she's like a super killer. And it's like she doesn't struggle as much like throughout the movie, which I feel like was a little bit of a missed opportunity until – I feel like it was nerves.
01:33:59
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, until she gets – This is – yeah First time jitters. Maybe, maybe. Yeah, I just feel like they could have played around with that a little bit more.
01:34:10
Speaker
And I think that was a missed opportunity. um But again, the the choreography in this is so cool. They they use explosions a lot in this movie, which I don't think the John Wick movies do. John Wick is very much it's gun food, right?
01:34:25
Speaker
It's like shooting, double tapping people, beating the living crap out of each other. This one, this movie is explosive. There's grenades going off left and right. People fucking splattering against the wall when grenades go. It's cool, dude. like and And that's like the one thing that this movie I think really had going for it.
01:34:41
Speaker
Norman Reedus is also in this. Severely underutilized. Yeah. Severely. That's like the worst thing about the movie, baby, on a plot perspective. It's like they just, yeah they had him in it and I don't know, like, I don't know, I guess they just maybe, he's not the most respected actor. Not that he's like a bad guy. I i mean, more like he's just not in a lot of things. Like he's just, he was higher on for the small.
01:35:03
Speaker
Yeah. I guess. I mean, it's disappointing. Well, no, he's in other things. He's in, the he's in, wait, he's in a ah ah Danny Boyle movie, isn't he? Am I crazy? I don't know. I don't know. I'll look it up while you continue. But yeah.
01:35:17
Speaker
I feel like, yeah, that was a mistake. I feel like he's underutilized. And the one thing with this movie is they, it's, you did touch on this. Like the plot is kind of lacking in this. And it's weird because they have so many moments where they set up a plot line that can go somewhere really cool.
01:35:33
Speaker
And they just kind of, sweep it under the rug. And it happens multiple times actually throughout the movie where I was like, wait, what? Like they set up a plot element and it's solved within like two to three minutes, like a big like plot reveal.
01:35:47
Speaker
I'm thinking, especially in the third act, like there's this big plot reveal and it just kind of is like, okay, nevermind. And I found that a little jarring, but I don't think that's a huge issue in this movie in the sense of like this.
01:36:00
Speaker
This movie is about the action. It's about the fight choreography. And it's like as long as that's a really good and really fun to watch, like I'm OK with it. But I think because of that lacking in a weird way, this is probably the.
01:36:15
Speaker
the worst movie in the John Wick franchise. Like maybe like John Wick three, I think from a plot perspective is, i mean, it goes nowhere. Like it literally ends where it begins. We talked about this. It's, it's interesting because the bear season three also did this, but at least there's like um amazing fight scenes without fricking horses in the desert. You know, like the, how the movie starts. It's cool, dude.
01:36:37
Speaker
um And I think that's kind of where it serves, but yeah, i don't know. There is also this level of, um, We talked about this as well, like physical comedy in the John Wick franchise. and And Ballerina has a lot of that.
01:36:48
Speaker
um Like I'm thinking of like the plates and it like the plate scene where they're just beating each other up with a bunch of plates. It's funny. Like there's there's a lot of these good moments. The movie itself isn't like a comedy, but there is a lot of comedic elements sprinkled throughout.
01:37:03
Speaker
um Yeah, I think... I think pretty good. I think it could have been better, but I like i i still really enjoyed it. and And it's a movie I could rewatch just because the action is so fun to to to look at.
01:37:17
Speaker
you know Yeah. Yeah, okay. yeah i I agree. I just, yeah, ah just I just, don't know. I just feel like you've got to care about the plot a bit more. i just I just think it it matters. It does matter.
01:37:28
Speaker
And I think there's just like, it' it's too thin for me to care enough. I want to care more about the characters. But I did enjoy It it was fun to watch. is It's a fun, it's a fun movie to watch because the action, again, is really well choreographed. And it's cool.
01:37:42
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, that's cool. Cool. but What do you, what do you rate this one? ah Like 3.5 probably. We have 3.5. 3.5 out 5 plus 3.5 out of 5 is a 7 out of 10.
01:37:56
Speaker
Yes. Yes, Simon. Yeah, it was good. yes Yeah, it was good. I would say it's good largely. Anyone who likes the John Wick franchise is definitely worth watching. But I just, yeah. I want to see like I wanted to at the end of the movie want to see Anadarmus's character again later, but I'm not I'm not I can't. She's just not memorable like on ah as a character perspective.
01:38:18
Speaker
Her fight scenes were cool, but like that's not quite enough. There's a it's it's funny because John Wick doesn't say any lines. Like notoriously. He says no lines, but I'm still compelled to see him. There's something about him as a character that's intriguing.
01:38:31
Speaker
I think even in this movie, he says so few lines, but he's just, there's a something the way that Keanu Reeves like carries John Wick's character. it' just i don't know. He's compelling in some way. I just didn't find Ed Armas that compelling. It's not the act the acting necessarily. It's just that maybe didn't fully develop who she is.
01:38:49
Speaker
I guess that's kind of the point though. It's kind of a coming of age tale in some way. Yeah. It's ah like a training scene. training montage movie in a lot of spots. But yeah, OK, cool. All right, let's move into the.
01:39:01
Speaker
The movie. Probably most anticipated by us for the year, maybe. One of the most anticipated movies for the year, certainly. um We watched in theaters more recently, 28 years later, directed by Danny Boyle and written by Alex Garland.
01:39:15
Speaker
Yes. this is This was a big one. It's many years after 28 Days Later, which was the calibration collaboration between Danny Boyle and and Alex Garland previously. 28 Weeks Later was famously not written or directed by either of those two men.
01:39:30
Speaker
But it is canon in this universe, which is which is a key thing to know. yeah because you just watched it and you want to make sure that it was worth your time. Yeah. So i I went back, right? So like that's kind of I was saving two other things that I watched to lead up to this. Because I watched 28 days later the night before we went to watch 28 years later.
01:39:52
Speaker
And then I watched 28 weeks later the day after I watched 28 years later because i I forgot I've only seen 28 weeks later once and I remember not really liking it um and on a rewatch it's better than I remember but it's definitely not like not as good as either 28 or years Right. I think it's like 20 weeks later, I think really dives into like um it's directed by Juan Carlos first Nadillo first.
01:40:22
Speaker
I'm butchering the name. I apologize. I apologize. Juan Carlos. so What has he done? Oh, I forgot. I looked this up about, you know, just to go back on that. Norman Reedus and Denny Boyle, I don't think they work together, so i don't know why I said that. Anyway, sorry, go on. One Carlos, what did he but you you do? um Nothing that we know about, really.
01:40:41
Speaker
Oh. Intacto. Yeah. He did the Crow remake. No. No, he did not. He was going to back in 2011 that didn't do anything. Oh. He was attached to direct. No, he directed Damsel.
01:40:56
Speaker
Did he? Didn't it? It says that he was attached to it, but I don't know if it if he actually directed it. No, he did. OK, cool. He did. don't really remember that movie. I didn't even watch that movie. Sorry. you know Yeah, so you don't remember it. Yeah.
01:41:09
Speaker
I think you ever saw it. Yeah, like so I want to talk a little bit about 28 Weeks Later in the sense of like, i was like, why didn't I like this movie at the time? um Because again, I like it more on this rewatch, but it still is like worse than 28 days later and 28 years later. And i was sitting there and like after finishing, i was like, why isn't it as good?
01:41:29
Speaker
Like, because – Like he he tries to mimic that very like similar like filming style that Danny Boyle does for both 28 days and years, funnily enough. um Yeah.
01:41:40
Speaker
So he tries to almost mimic it. And it's it's not bad. it Like it it feels good. I think it's not as like refined as it is, um especially in 28 years later, but it's still good. And i don't know if refined would be the word I would use use to describe the filmmaking style.
01:41:55
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. I guess not refined. but i know what you mean. I mean, you mean like not, he didn't, he didn't capture it. He didn't capture the essence of it enough. Yeah. Yeah. And, but it's not bad.
01:42:06
Speaker
And, After watching, i was like you know, there's something missing. I was like, I don't know exactly what it is. It's ultra violent, like arguably too violent at parts. Like there's moments. I think he really like doubled down on the violence because 28 days, although it's relatively violent, there there's a style to it. Whereas in this movie, it's it's very evident. Like the violence is is there. And I feel like maybe Juan Carlos thought that was like the main point of 28 days later and what he forgot to do when he's making that movie.
01:42:38
Speaker
is focus on the characters. And that's kind of what I realized. Whereas I finished the movie and I'm like, there are main characters in this movie. you know and there's There's Rose Byrne, she's also in this. Jeremy Renner's in this.
01:42:52
Speaker
Idris Elba's in this, right? Like it's a crazy cast. But after I finished the movie, i don't remember any of their names. like i Like I just watched it recently. I don't remember any of their names. And they don't have personalities apart from the role they play.
01:43:09
Speaker
There's the kids in the movie and their role is to be little kids in a bad situation. Jeremy Renner is a soldier dude and his role is he's a soldier dude with a heart.
01:43:22
Speaker
Wait, is he American? Yes. ah Yes, because the premise of 28 weeks later is takes place 28 weeks after 28 days, if I recall correctly, or or after the initial outbreak.
01:43:34
Speaker
Yeah, and... um and the The virus has died, apparently, because at the end of 28 days later, you see the infected kind of just die and they're starving off. And that's what happens. And they ah essentially, OK, cool. The infection's gone.
01:43:49
Speaker
So they the American, like NATO, comes into the UK and they they rebuild like a part of, I think, London or whatever, um where it's like a safe zone. And they're they're starting to bring people back there. So there's a population of like 15,000 people or something like that.
01:44:04
Speaker
and So like the um the American military is there and it's kind of that. That's the setup. Robert Carlyle, he plays the the dad to the kids. He sent like the kids away on a trip before the outbreak happened.
01:44:15
Speaker
And the thing that 28 weeks later does actually amazingly is the opening. It's one of the most it's it's I think the best opening in the franchise. Actually, it's so intense and really cool. um And long story short, you know, once they're reopening, you know, London, the kids can finally fly back and and see see the father. But, yeah.
01:44:36
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Not to dive too deep the plot. Long story short, the infection the infection does come back. And it's because like the someone that is infected is infected and it's ah the the infection has evolved to just make them a carrier.
01:44:48
Speaker
So they're not crazy. They're not like killing people, but they are carrying it. And it can still transfer to someone like, ah you know, through saliva or whatever. And eventually that happens. And then your shit goes awry in this military situation. And it's about like Rose Byrne and Jeremy Renner trying to get these kids to safety.
01:45:05
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And that's kind of the premise of the movie. But again, it's very forgetful in the sense of like what these character who these characters are. And like, again, there's there's not there's not that charm to it that like 28 Days Later has, which is about the characters. 28 Years Later is about the characters in a setting, whereas 28 Weeks Later kind of doubles down on it's about the setting and the characters are there just to kind of serve the plot in a way that's not as good.
01:45:31
Speaker
i'm sure the action really served yeah yeah actually that's exactly it and it's it's there just to you know have an idea um interesting so i think that's kind of where that movie misses it's still good like i still like it and again like where it goes is pretty interesting but what's especially interesting about 28 weeks later is that it introduces a lot of elements that they use in 28 years later again the the, the infections kind of evolving.
01:45:58
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There's the first alpha is in 28 weeks later, which is like a main plot point in 28 years later. And where 28 weeks later ends is super interesting because they retcon it in 28 years later with one line at the start of the movie where they say the, um the infection has, has been pushed back to only like the UK. Yeah.
01:46:24
Speaker
And again, um spoilers, I guess, for like 28 weeks later, but the end, there's there's it alludes to the infection kind of spreading outside of the UK. But again, there's a line of dialogue in 28 years later. It's like they pushed the infection back. And now it's like it's just in that area.
01:46:40
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And I think that's honestly one of the coolest parts about 28 years later is not necessarily that you know it's you're following these characters in in like this you know in the UK. It's British. um But that the rest of the world is just running normally outside of there.
01:46:56
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And it's such a cool idea. And they reference like, oh, there's the French ships like kind of going by to make sure that no one can leave because they won' don't want that virus to spread throughout the rest of the world.
01:47:07
Speaker
And I think that's just such a cool idea. And watching 28 days later, again, the night before, 28 later, And how much you know Danny Boyle and I think Alex Garland have evolved as both writers and directors is really cool, but they still capture that charm that 28 Days Later has in such a way. And again, the characters are what's the focus in 28 Years Later, which is what the focus was in 28 Days Later.
01:47:35
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I don't really like, I mean, I care, like it's a cool idea. It's the you know introduction of the running infected. Like that's what 28 Days Later brought to the table. um But like, I don't care about the running infected. but I care about the people trying to survive in that situation and their relationships and their bonds.
01:47:50
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And again, even the characters that are introduced that are like the villains, they have personality. they they They're interesting to to follow. And like, you understand their kind of point of view in a weird way, even though it's really fucked up in like 28 later.
01:48:04
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And I think 28 years later captures all of that and pushes it to the next level where right after the movie, I i was like, you know, I i love 28 days later. It's classic. And I think I like that movie more than 28 years later. But the more I've marinated on this, I think 28 years later is actually the better movie.
01:48:22
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And it has like... done something so wholly unique in an otherwise beaten to death genre of of zombies. We've had fucking, what, 20 seasons of of Walking Dead shows?
01:48:38
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whether Yeah, but those you knows are all the same world, I guess, in their defense. I mean, like The Last of Us is... You know, yeah, the last of the same thing about the last is you can do it. It's just you need to have the inkling to do it. The problem is is that we haven't beaten death with the walking dead. Certainly. Yes. Like the walking dead in general.
01:48:54
Speaker
So yes, its own. thing. So it's just really cool to see that this, that they've created something, again, something wholly unique in a, in a genre that again, is arguably beaten to death, but I get where you're coming yeah coming from because the walking dead is being done.
01:49:08
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And my favorite part about this movie as well is, uh, I mean, we talked about, you know, the Neil Druckmann and, um, Alex Garland interview where, where, where they're, you know, talking and they both very clearly have an admiration for each other. and And Neil Druckmann says that he used 28 days later as inspiration when he created the last of us.
01:49:26
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And it's like this cycle where it's so clear that Alex Garland used The Last of Us as inspiration when writing 28 years later in a lot of ways, specifically with, again, like Evolving Infected, you know the the the relationship between a kid and a parent, like these little things that are just so connected, but still very different from one another and, again, unique from one another.
01:49:48
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And I just think this movie is fucking fantastic, like genuinely fucking fantastic. It might be it might be my favorite movie of the year. I got to double check. I got to look at my list. But I loved this so much, like so much. And the more I think about it, the more I'm like, wow, like we just witnessed a fucking masterpiece, dude.
01:50:06
Speaker
Like the only other movie that I can think of where I was like, this is ah like I'm watching a masterpiece was Sinners. And it was like it was like when we were sitting in the theater where I was like, oh my God, I'm like watching a masterpiece right now unfold in front of me. Whereas 28 years later, I and it wasn't thinking that in the theater. i was like, I really like this. I think it's cool.
01:50:24
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um But like, again, the more I think about it, the more I love it. And it's like almost reverse recency bias where the the the further I've gotten away from it, the more I, again, view it positively.
01:50:36
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um Sorry, I rambled on a bit there. I talked about three movies. I'm curious. What did you think about this? Um, cause very clearly i fucking loved it, dude. yeah Yeah, it was excellent. I i really liked it. it was It's cool. I haven't seen 20 Days Later for... i saw it first five years ago.
01:50:53
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um So I hadn't seen it as as recently. i just i thought that the the chaotic nature of the way it's shot, it's crazy. It's filmed on an iPhone and it seems so old in the way that it's like post-processed or whatever they use to filter it.
01:51:06
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It's really, really neat in that regard. And there's a lot of really neat cinematography, especially like just like these camera angles where they shoot... They shoot an arrow at ah at ah at ah an infected and then you you kind of show these multiple angles, these quick cuts.
01:51:20
Speaker
It's really, really neat as the arrow kind of hits them. It's really cool and I've never really quite seen that in anything else. There's just this like a lot of chaos. they they Danny Boyle loves to use these... these weird angles. He doesn't shoot anything straight as well. he shoots things on these like tilted, uh, diagonal angles, which is like very unsettling. And I think that's the whole purpose is like the chaotic nature of the way it's shot is, is part of the magic, I think.
01:51:46
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um But yeah, it's pretty, really, really cool. The cinema photography like genuinely just causes you anxiety throughout it. And like, i thought I thought the acting was really neat too. And it's just very, very much an ensemble cast of characters that you just kind of relate to. And there's the human element of it that I feel like you just described earlier that really brings you in and grounds the movie as opposed to it being again about that.
01:52:10
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It shouldn't be about the setting. That's that's what makes The Last of Us so good. That's what makes 28 Days Later so good. It's about, these individuals that you can relate to as ah as ah as an audience member. um And like the father and son element of like the traveling together that you can see in the trailer as an example between a Aaron Taylor or Johnson's character and Alfie Williams.
01:52:30
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the They both did a like a bang up job. i thought acting wise, like it's fantastic. And I think Alfie Williams isn't really in anything else. so like He was most recently in that Netflix show that's very well rated, Adolescence.
01:52:42
Speaker
Oh, OK, cool. I think that that's one of his first roles. So this kid's I think going places because he's in two. like He's in a movie that's reviewed incredibly well, which he acted amazingly in. And that adolescence show by all accounts is phenomenal, too.
01:52:54
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So yeah. And then like the Jodie Comer plot line, like the story arc in general is just so good. good And Ralph Fiennes' role in it is so good. They're just... They're very good. This movie is very, very sad. And I related to it on like a personal level and the way the plot where it went as well and in different ways. And I thought it was... Yeah, it's it's really quite...
01:53:16
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sad And like, a obviously, we're dealing with a world that's ah overrun by infected creatures, but ah human beings. But there's like, that they again, it's the grounded nature of humans dealing with that and humans dealing with the post, like a post apocalyptic world that is really the the key aspect of it.
01:53:36
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Well, again, just ah just to correct you there, post-apocalyptic like country because the rest of the world is running fine, which is so cool. I guess, yeah, their universe, their world. But yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah for sure.
01:53:47
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And the rest of the world is running fine. But it's interesting, too, how much the plot evolves over time. There's like these elements of wacky comedy in it. There's like these strange beats that like it changes. it it almost feels like a TV show in one movie in a weird way. And that it seems like it's it's like built in chapters.
01:54:06
Speaker
And it just it's separated by these strange like – it's it constantly It almost changes in tone and somehow it does that in a masterful way that doesn't quite make sense. like there is I have one criticism of it and I found that there's a part near the end that I felt almost tonally broke parts of the way the movie is done. i didn't love that. And i again, I'm not going to spoil that, but I i didn't.
01:54:30
Speaker
Didn't love that as much. I'm curious to see how they revolve that because this is a series. It's going to be a trilogy, at this 28 years trilogy specifically. they're gonna like not Not that it is a trilogy. I guess it would be the last end of trilogy of 28 movies, but unrelated to 28 weeks and days, it's supposed to be a trilogy of 28 years movies.
01:54:50
Speaker
yeah movies And so the next one's being directed by Nia DaCosta, who directed Candyman and the lesser loved by me, but Marvel's movie. Yeah, but like, did she even direct it?
01:55:02
Speaker
Yeah. like Did she? else did it? Who else? Did she? Yeah, i know I know. But there's no like, it's not like there's like a shadow director, like Tony Gilroy came out and directed Kareth Edwards.
01:55:13
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Like they, theoretically, they have characters.
01:55:18
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Like, direction. Like, what whatever ended happening. I feel like... I like Gareth Edwards' movies, largely, so I'm not even sure that he made a bad movie without Tony Gilroy. I don't know what that movie... Like, the... We're talking about Rogue One, honestly, but, like, what what does that look like? I don't know what that looks like if he Tony Gilroy didn't come in and and do the reshoots in writing. But I don't know.
01:55:39
Speaker
It's unknown, but... um But yeah, just the ending of this, there's like a moment at the end, not the ending, but the end there's a moment at the end that was like, ah, the tone didn't work. I'm not sure. I'm still not sure, like a week and a half later.
01:55:51
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But other than that, like it makes many tonal shifts and they all seem to work. And it just like shows many parts of the human condition in a weird way. It's like a strange, like it takes us like these little like deep dives into these characters is like there's a there's a coming of age story in it.
01:56:08
Speaker
It's very clear. It's like, I don't know. There's like so many different. Like the changes thematically and. Yeah, it's it's really cool. Yeah, this might sound like a like a negative, but again, I actually really like this movie. I'm in the minority, but it kind of reminded me of like Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, where that movie is like there's three distinct chapters in that movie. Like if that movie feels like almost like a TV show with three episodes because of like how, like where it breaks at three separate moments. yeah i do I like that movie a lot. I know people don't, didn't, but I really do.
01:56:41
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don't think it's like anywhere near as good as 20 years later, obviously. But yeah again, there is like, there is that similar, again, it's very, it's segmented. There there are distinct points in this movie where it feels, again, the tone, the tone shifts, but also the plot moves in a very unexpected way.
01:57:00
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And I cannot, like, the trailers for this are frickin' masterpieces because it nails, like, what the vibe of the movie is without revealing pretty much any of the movie.
01:57:10
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But it almost doesn't nail the vibe, though. That's what so I'm saying, like, the tone of shifts. It nails... in nails na Nails some of the vibe. Yeah, sure. It never misconstrues or like misrepresents what the movie is, though, either. So it's it's pretty great in that regard.
01:57:28
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I also say that the trailer and parts of the movie have that chant from 1915. I don't know if you saw this. This recorded in 1915 by actor Taylor Holmes, apparently, is like a poem called Boots about soldiers marching.
01:57:43
Speaker
in war. It's, yeah it's crazy. Like that, yeah that chance that they play in the movie and they play in the trail. I thought that was going to be just in the trailer. And the fact that they use that chanting, if you watch the trailer, you'll know what I'm talking about.
01:57:55
Speaker
but It's this very haunting, like old timey chanting that's going on. And the thing is, is that they use all this imagery. That's not really of its, time in the movie. Like they, they, sh they, they cut in these various like soldiers marching and various things. It just makes you uneasy as a, as an audience watching like these two characters going into this, like these vast amounts of actually it's strange.
01:58:19
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This movie almost reminds me of tiny bit, or maybe I should say death stranding reminds me a little bit of this movie in a weird way. There's like these giant vast landscapes that feel like they're untamed and un,
01:58:30
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almost like uncharted, which makes no sense because obviously it's the UK. It's this place that obviously that people have gone to, but it's 28 years later after this infection. Everything doesn't quite look the same. It looks, again, on on uncharted in a weird way. yeah Kind of like Death Stranding's landscapes are all almost look look unrecognizable to what we know as as people.
01:58:53
Speaker
ah for for like For the United States, as an example, in the first game. But yeah, it's ah it's brilliant. I don't know. Yeah, there's really not much to criticize, except for that I don't know about the tonal shift at the end. I'm just a little bit confused by it because it it felt like it went a little bit over the line from my perspective.
01:59:10
Speaker
but Even the way the beginning, the the movie begins is, it's just great. It's just really cool. And like there's little, there's little Easter eggs throughout the movie of these like little signages and things like these of, of a culture on the mainland in this film that you're like, you're not sure.
01:59:27
Speaker
what what it's about, like you're confused by it. yeah they They give you little hints of where the plot is going on an overarching perspective while we're really focused as opposed to the overall culture of the UK at this time. They're mainly focused on ah few select characters, really this family and yeah in Aaron Taylor Johnson's character, Alfie Williams' character, and Jodie Comer.
01:59:51
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But... Yeah, brilliant. Really, really liked it. I think it's if any fan of 28 years later, sorry, 28 days later worth watching. Any fan of movies because you don't really need the context necessarily.
02:00:04
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I feel like they give you enough context to understand. There's also a lot of a lot of naked people. Dude, swinging dicks like so much. The alpha like he makes perfect sense, though, right? Yeah, makes perfect sense because like, what would they have? Why would they have closed? they did Yeah.
02:00:21
Speaker
Yeah. like Deacon, like got off them. But yeah, like the, the alpha is like, love that actually huge penises that are just swinging. I love it. The realisticness of it. I thought it was really cool. Like I just, I never even thought of that.
02:00:32
Speaker
I don't know why. Cause they don't do that in, in movies too much. Like it's very rare. I guess there's like a, people shy away from nudity. So they don't, they don't shoot it directly. They don't never, they, it's, you just accept it. Right. you're just like, yeah Oh, it's shocking though. It's again, another part of the anxiety inducing aspect of it. Mm-hmm.
02:00:49
Speaker
That's really cool. ah Yeah. it's It's really good. It's excellent. It is really good. And one one thing I kind of want to give this props for is like this feels different from a lot of movies too. Like it feels more British. ah yeah It feels like a British movie.
02:01:01
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Like which isn't necessarily a bad thing, right? Like oh like there – That's it. yeah Yeah, because I mean, like, obviously it takes takes place there, but like this, there's like this. But is there another movie that feels like this, though, to call it more British?
02:01:15
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I guess 28 Days Later is like the the other one. I guess it feels like like a Daniel Boyle unique. It just feels like a unique movie, though. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like it, right but yeah there they are British actors in it, I guess, too. Yeah. And they take it takes place in the UK.
02:01:31
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But um yeah, i I fucking love this movie, dude. I loved it. like I genuinely did. like It's really good. and Yeah, the the ending is pretty – the tonal shift is kind of wacky, but it like I'm so curious – where are they're going to go with it, because again, like you talked about, it's like they plant so many seeds throughout the movie and they're like small little visual Easter eggs that make you feel like,
02:01:53
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okay there's there's things happening outside of these characters that we're following and it's like what is that right what's that mystery and like you know hopefully we're going to find that out in the in the sequel which i think is already wrapped production and is going to be out next yeah like i guess piggybacking on my idea that i didn't love the tonal shift i thought that at the very end because i feel like it just again it kind of just crossed the line just ever so slightly i feel like maybe even just the way it ends I guess you know it's being set up for a sequel and so obvious that maybe that kind of bothered little bit too. It's like, oh man, this movie so good. And it kind of felt like there's no cherry on top. It's kind of like, oh, but you got to come back for more. And that part, I guess, bothered me a Like a wink and kind of thing.
02:02:38
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like Yeah, it's like that's we get it. quick Well, it's not even weekend of nods like you you. We clearly realize that there's there's more to come. Yeah. And I think that's that's cool. I feel like they did complete parts of the the story does end in some aspect, but it also is clear to continue. It's almost like the Fellowship of the Ring, like.
02:02:55
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Like they they accomplished something or like the two towers like we we know we accomplished stuff, but we clearly have more to see here. And so I feel like maybe that threw me off a little bit more than I would have liked to. It would have been or do a better example. Doom part one, you know?
02:03:08
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Yeah. um But that really ended on a more of a nothing was completed, I guess. um So a little bit less than that, but it still feels like I kind of wish it was more finalized than that.
02:03:20
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i like Yeah. It's great though. What you score it? What do you think? This is, again, the, I guess the second movie I'm going to be rating a five out of five for the year. Yeah.
02:03:31
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um Sinners being in the other movie. um Interesting. yeah I adored this man. Like, and again, the more I think about it, the more I like it. Just, um so maybe it'll be a 5.5 next week. Who knows, dude?
02:03:42
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It's not possible, but you know, the more you like it. So the more you don't like it. Whoa. Cause it would be next week, but I'm, So you think you're goingnna your opinion is going to be worse?
02:03:55
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No, better. Because the more I like it. You said 4.5 out of 5. Didn't you rate this a 5? No, I said 5.5. I said 5.5. Oh, 5.5. I'm sorry. Sorry. It's okay, man. Don't worry about it. What a waste a conversation this was. All right. Well, I rated a 4.5 out of 5. Coincidentally.
02:04:11
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and But I don't have 5 this year. It's really good, though. I really liked it. But those those kind of those two things kind of threw me off. But I think it's brilliant. And it's just like, again, the change. the The amalgamation of everything it is.
02:04:23
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I just think the way it's shot is like one of the most unique things I've ever seen. Dude, it's cool. It's such a big major picture. like it's a big It's a big movie, yeah theoretically. It's crazy what they did with the cameras, though, like the the iPhone cameras and like the dedication to shoot it all on iPhone.
02:04:40
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I saw some interviews with, um you know i think it was Aaron Telly Johnson, where read an interview and they were talking about like the like the how they treated like Alfie Williams and like how ah Danny Boyle is just so chill and set, but he's like so enacting, like ah exacting on what his his vision is.
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02:04:58
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I just thought that was really cool because Alfie's not done that much. And there's this idea, especially in the action sequences where you kind of have to have the adrenaline rush. You feel like these characters are in that moment. If they feel like their energy is down, then you're like, you don't believe it as the audience.
02:05:12
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That's what Aaron Taylor Johnson was talking about because he's been a lot of action movies. um I guess Tenet is one of them, but he's also more recently been in Craven the Hunter. and ah so which i showeddi that I showed you that scene from the movie where they they just CGI'd a mouth on on like a still image to add dialogue.
02:05:31
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Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, it's crazy. but Oh, yeah. They were also saying Danny Boyle in there and Aaron... It was Aaron Taylor-Johnson actually was trying to teach Alfie about how to get your adrenaline up. and there's a collaborative set and Danny Boyle is very... Yeah, it's cool. It's just neat.
02:05:45
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It's neat. Danny Boyle is a cool guy. He took a break from ah from directing for like five years. I didn't realize that. I guess it makes sense, though, because i haven't seen a movie come out by him in a while. I think the last movie that I saw come out from him might have been tra Was it, what's the movie called? Sorry, the movie with... ah Trainspotting 2?
02:06:03
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G2? Sorry, say it again? Trainspotting 2? Yes, Trainspotting. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
02:06:14
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Yeah. So I think that was last one? That was in 2017. Oh, that was way... Oh, so I'm wrong then. So something definitely... oh It was um Yesterday, which i honestly had no idea that he directed it.
02:06:28
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that makes sense. Yeah. Oh, cool. I like that movie. Did you see it? No. I had no idea directed that, I'll be honest with you. I like the movie a lot. I forgot that one. I thought, for some reason, I thought Trainspotting came out after.
02:06:41
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i couldn't remember the name of it. Thank you for the... remind I kept thinking The Transporter. The Transporter. and that' That's not really not the name. And that's a Jason Statham action movie, which is not, yeah not quite as good.
02:06:54
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So, yeah. And I think I also thought Transporter because of Death Stranding. Yeah. That's got Death Stranding on the mind. But yeah. Yeah. It's good stuff, man. Yeah. Cool, man. He also directed Sunshine. Cool. All right. 4.5 plus 5 makes it a 9.5 out of 10. That's pretty high. That's one of our highest rated rotten to rotten potatoes scores we've ever done.
02:07:14
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On this podcast, the focus of women TV podcasts. All right, Adrian, I think it's time to move on. Let's do it. To a segment of our show that I like to call A Look to the Future.
02:07:26
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portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between the dates of 1st, 2025 and July 2025. and july fourteenth twenty twenty five
02:07:42
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I'll throw it to you is this customary. Thanks.
02:07:47
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Movies, TV shows, are you most excited for, sir? Simon, I think you already know, baby. Jurassic World Rebirth coming out July 2nd.
02:07:58
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Dinos killing people again? You know I'm going to be there. I love all the Jurassic Park and World movies. I think they're all really fun um to varying degrees.
02:08:08
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um But again, I'm a simple man. I just want to see dinosaurs fucking up people, dude. And good cast in this one as well. Mahershal Ali, ah Scarlett Johansson, the guy that looks like Dan Stevens, but isn't Dan Stevens.
02:08:24
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Do you think that though? Or you think that just was crazy to think that? I can see i can see the like why you would think that. They kind of look similar. That's the Bridgerton dude, right?
02:08:35
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The guy from Bridgerton? That's his big role? I think so. Jonathan Bailey, right? Yeah, Jonathan Bailey. Yeah. um they Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey keep kissing each other on the mouth every red carpet.
02:08:49
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Oh, really? see this Yeah. No. Joellen Bailey's gay, though. I'm pretty sure so. And I feel like that's why it's... It keeps happening. It made headlines twice, though. I'm pretty sure.
02:09:00
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um Okay. That movie is cool. The most interesting thing about Jurassic World Rebirth that I didn't realize until recently is that it's Gareth Edwards. Speaking of Gareth Edwards.
02:09:12
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Yeah. I don't know if I knew that or I wasn't paying attention when it was set. and Oh, you might have said it and I just didn't notice. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was interesting because Gareth Edwards, I do like his movies. Like typically I like his Godzilla movie.
02:09:24
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I like Rogue One. I like that movie with the kid with the hole in the ah the side of its head. The AI kid. right and I like that movie. It's quite good. I think the art like the art and the production design and the CG and all that stuff, like the costume design, very good.
02:09:38
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like The artistic like vision of it, it seems pretty good. I feel like it didn't pay off as much as it could have it by the end of the movie, but I really liked it. It's it's cool. Hmm. So I'm curious about this. I'm i'm curious what this is and like and how much it is a rebirth.
02:09:52
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It's funny that it's called Rebirth. I just keep thinking of like Japanese RPG names. Yeah, Final Fantasy. Rebirth. Seven Rebirth. The next one is going to be Jurassic World Revival. Jurassic World Remake.
02:10:04
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Maybe. Yeah. But I'm curious. I i hope it's good. I hope it's the plot's good. That's all I care about. You're just so obsessed with these dinosaurs killing people. Dude, it's coming out Wednesday. You wanna to watch it on Wednesday?
02:10:18
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Probably. We'll see what nice, see what Don's thinking. Cause it's really my fiance. That's to be the driving force for this one. She's definitely, this is like her number one movie of the year. It's funny. She loves Wes Anderson movies, but we didn't go see the Phoenician scheme.
02:10:31
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And, uh, and I was like, do you want to go see it? Like it it could be cool. Like it's fun. We, we usually go watch those in theaters and she's like, no, don't know. It's like, it's not really a movie for the theaters. I don't really care. I'm like, that's kind of sucks though. I like, I don't know. I want to support Wes Anderson. Like I really like his films that they're quirky and fun. And,
02:10:47
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But yeah, we didn't go see it because she said no. but But she's like, I just want to go see Jurassic World soon. I'm like, that's the movie I want to see. If I had a choice between them, I'm like, all right, we're going to go see Jurassic World Rebirth.
02:10:58
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i' ah I'll message Ken as well because I know Ken really likes these movies. I want to see if Ken wants to come with us. Sounds good. Sweet. Cool. Okay. nine My first pick is an obvious one. I think it's as it's it's primed to be the biggest movie of the year, I think.
02:11:12
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It's Superman. July 11th, Superman from director James Gunn, written, directed by James Gunn, starring David Cornswit and Nicholas Holt. Rachel Brosnahan.
02:11:25
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it ah It looks good. Everything about it kind of tells me that it's going to be good. And I'm excited for James Gunn to get his DCU off the ground in in ah in a more much more substantial way.
02:11:38
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yeah This is the big budget feature that if it fails, the DCU is dead. And I think James Gunn will slowly shuffle off out of his role with Peter Safran in tow, I guess. I guess they're both co-
02:11:51
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It's not. It can't be bad. I don't think it will be. I think it looks great. It does. think that James Gunn is very dedicated to his craft in ah in like a really deep way. It's weird that the guy from the guy who directed Slither and Super became such a – it's insane if you look at his career trajectory and then you just look at this. It's almost hard to believe.
02:12:13
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in a strange way and then like if you look at Guardians of the Galaxy 3 as an example and look how good that movie is it's kind of again it's just hard to believe it's it's very good I really it's one of my favorite MCU movies so yeah yeah it's cool right that dude I mean like he he doesn't miss Like he hasn't.
02:12:32
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um Yeah. Like I can't think of anything because again, Guardians amazing. The Suicide Squad. Amazing. ah Creature Commandos. Awesome. Peacemaker. Awesome. I know. This has to be good. This has to be good.
02:12:45
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But you just think about it and you think, have you seen Super or Slither no as an example? No, no. I haven't seen those movies, no. It's just if you watch Super, you're like, okay. like You can't, you couldn't believe it.
02:12:57
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Like, it's because this's they're very rated R and they're very, very campy and corny in a way and they're very violent. And they're good, though. They're good. in their way i watch but they're they're they're nothing like this so it just it just means that he's just he's just i don't know i guess he was just given the the keys to the to the the the coffers and that's what happens with the keys to the coffers are given to you i am trying to avoid anything like in terms of like trailers for superman but i saw a clip of it i'm like damn it because it's again one of those marketing things where they just over market the heck out of it to try to sell it yeah but anyway what's your next pick
02:13:35
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So my next pick is, i think this is technically a limited release. um We don't really have this playing near near us anywhere on this day. But on July 4th, there's a movie coming out called Sorry Baby.
02:13:49
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i don't know if you heard of this one. I don't think so. It's, I think, a directorial debut but from Ava Vincent. um She's directing it and starring in it.
02:14:00
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And it's an A24 flick. It's rated incredibly well. um It's like a, I think like a, It's labeled as like a black comedy or something because it's about this woman who dealt with a very bad thing that happened to her.
02:14:14
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They don't touch on what it is in the trailer, but you know everyone's life keeps moving on. So it's kind of this like slice of life movie where like one of her friends comes back and it's just about how she's going to try to move her life forward from this awful situation that she was in.
02:14:29
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And it just looks really good. Like the first trailer was really good. And I'm very curious about this again, rated incredibly well. um We don't have any show times until July 18th at princess twin, but by all accounts, I think even on Cineplex, it shows that it releases July 4th. So maybe it's like a limited release.
02:14:47
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um and Again, it's a smaller movie, so we may not be be able to watch it at anywhere, but yeah. um I'm quite interested in this one. It looks really good. I love slice of life movies.
02:14:59
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Cool. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. um My next pick is more mainstream, I guess. ah It's so actually, i don't know which one to pick here.
02:15:10
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I guess I'll pick this one. The Old Guard 2, July 2nd. It's a big Netflix movie with Charlize Theron. The first one was okay. Yeah, I don't remember it. It must have sold pretty well, though. It must have been watched pretty well on Netflix.
02:15:25
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um It was okay. I'm hoping it's better. second Maybe, yeah. but it's It is random because, yeah, that's July 2nd, right? um so yeah, it's like... There was a that was like a deep pandemic movie, wasn't it?
02:15:37
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Yeah, it was 2020 in the beginning. Yeah. Which is like interesting because it's like like five years. It's weird that they like go back to this stuff. It's like five years later to a sequel that honestly, I feel like just kind of came and went. We watched it, but I don't fucking remember a goddamn thing about it.
02:15:54
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They're like immortal people, right?
02:15:57
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And they're defending something. They're defending something. There's action. but yeah Fighting people. somebody I think there's a character that... I don't remember. i don't want to say it because it's a spoiler. Anyway.
02:16:08
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Dude, I've never... Oh, yeah. yeah You like threw so much shade at Kiki Lane. She's in this as well. Yeah. Is Kiki Lane not being anything else? Because i I don't know what What does Kiki Lane look like?
02:16:22
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Kiki Lane. Oh, if Beale Street could talk. Oh yeah. That's a huge movie. That was way before remember. I talked a lot shit about it. You threw a lot of shade at her, but she was like in an Oscar note nominated film.
02:16:34
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Yeah. I did see her in Don't Worry Darling. and Oh yeah. Because apparently she's in that movie. That movie. don't remember. What if what a disappointment. I don't think I've been more disappointed in in a movie. i was so du i don't yeah That was a confusing movie.
02:16:48
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Because it's like, it's not that, like I've been disappointed in lots of movies, but that movie, the expectations for me were so high because Olivia Wilde's directing in, what's it called now? ah Damn it.
02:17:00
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I don't remember the name of movie. Booksmart. That's a coming of age story too. Yeah. I like books. I thought that was excellent. And then like this movie, the trailers were literally amazing. They were so good.
02:17:12
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And then the end of that movie, I was like, what, what are you talking about? I was shocked. was shocked. I was like, this is where this is going. Even like the midway point. I'm like, where are they going with this? i yeah I was confused with like where where the one was. And there's a weird like it was a it was a I felt like a heavy handed. seemed like a heavy handed somewhat political message in in a weird way. If I remember correctly.
02:17:34
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I'm like, what are you doing? like i don't understand what this is. yeah It's very confusing. Yeah. Like I don't remember it all that well. like I do remember the ending being so jarring. And I like, I feel like the the ending was not the original plan.
02:17:46
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And then they, they did like some random shift to, to what the ending ended up being. And it just felt so out of place. Yeah. and what That was a disappointing ass movie, man. It didn't work out.
02:17:58
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I don't know. But
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02:17:59
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it's so unfortunate because I feel like if you rewrote the ending a little bit to massage it, it could have been better. Even the twist that they had, they had a couple of twists and I was like, they just didn't play the way you thought they were going to play.
02:18:09
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I don't know. It's too bad because the acting, I thought the acting was good. I thought Chris, um, Man, I'm doing bad with names. Chris Pine. I thought Chris Pine was pretty great. Yeah. He was great. Fourth, he was amazing.
02:18:22
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She awesome. i like I really like her. like I think she's phenomenal in pretty much anything she's in. yeah um But I remember like Harry Styles was in this. And his accent changed multiple times. Like, do you remember? I feel like we talked about that. Like his accent randomly changed. and i was like, wait, what? Right.
02:18:38
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Yeah. He was like having trouble with that. was like, it's too bad. and He's like, it well, why would you not notice that in post? Like, yeah you kind of have to just like, or even not hopefully before post so you can get it right in the shooting process. That's yeah. It sucks.
02:18:51
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It sucks. All right. Anyway, mom what were we talking about? The old guard too. How did we get here? The old guard too. I don't know. Anyway, that's it. Yeah. The old guard too. They could be good. We'll see. Yeah. like so Cool. My final thing that I'm going to talk about and maybe one other thing, if you don't bring it up is, um,
02:19:10
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Bachelor in Paradise, baby. They're back July 7th week to week Bachelor in Paradise. This is exciting because I pretty much know the entire cast. I've watched these seasons of Bachelor and Bachelorette.
02:19:21
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um Yeah. In regards to the dating shows in reality TV, I like the Bachelor series probably the most. I don't really care if for Love is Blind that much. Ultimatum is a mess. um Maybe, maybe like Ultimatum Queer Love was really good the first season, but the second season I'm not vibing with it. Maybe it'll get better.
02:19:37
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But yeah, I'm excited. Bachelor in Paradise, man. July 7th, week to week. Cool. cool I know you're stoked for it. Yeah. Yeah.
02:19:49
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Alrighty. I got a few more so we can just keep going. I got here, written here. I'll leave the next one for you because I think you might say it. But I got... Foundation season three premiere. Oh, okay.
02:20:02
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Which is a pretty big budget show from Apple, I'm pretty sure. Like science fiction series based on like Isaac Asimov's novel. Or novels? It's a novel? and I have no idea. Anyway, Isaac Asimov's stories.
02:20:15
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Yeah. ah And so, yeah, Foundation Season 3, it continues, which is good. I'm glad it's still going. I think we will like it. I know it's kind of hit and miss and at the beginning, but I think it people really grew to like it as it went on.
02:20:27
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I looked at this like top. There's like a this person wrote this list. I'm going to give them credit it's a stupid list. don't want people to click it. There was like a list of like, these are the best shows you should watch on Apple TV. And it's just like list like 20 shows. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I thought you were going to like five or 10.
02:20:43
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You're giving it 20. It was like some obnoxious list. It's almost every show. And I'm just like, that's so strange. and it was like an order, I think, in order of the best shows. And it's like, that is like a number one, number two. And I'm like, this is a weird, like very, very, very subjective list. And one of the shows that was not in there was For All Mankind, but Foundation was in there like high up. And i was like, okay.
02:21:08
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Like, first of all, For All Mankind is almost 100% of Rotten Tomatoes. Like, it's a crazy, in terms of reviews. So I'm like, this is like a a website with review like, yes, 95% from my kind foundations, like kind of more hit and miss. i was like, this is the best, this is your best list. This is just your opinion. Like you're not reading this based on anything.
02:21:27
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Anyway, I thought that was ridiculous, but yeah, foundation season three. What's your next? Nice. Nice. I don't know if if I know what you thought I was going to say, because I can't think of anything else except for this movie called brick.
02:21:38
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which is a Netflix German movie coming out. And it's about people that wake up in their apartment and there's this weird wall like and they can't leave. It's like bricks put around put around their house, their're their apartments. And then they're like, what? We can't leave.
02:21:53
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How are we going get out of here? And then they break into other people's houses and like everyone's dealing with the same situation. um But it has the That's not what it at all. um what's his name zombie army yeah that guy he's in it but he speaks German Matthias Schweighofer I don't know I butchered that shit out of his name Matthias Schweighofer h Schweighhofer?
02:22:25
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Schweighhofer. Schweighhofer. Schweighhofer, probably. Hoffa. That's him, right? That's the guy? Yeah, yeah it is. And he's in it he was in a spinoff heist thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
02:22:35
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Which was like the the prequel, which is interesting. Yeah. I don't watch that. Anyway. Cool. What do you think I was going to say, out curiosity? It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia season 17 premiere.
02:22:47
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Oh, okay. Yeah, no. I forgot about that. That's a big one for people. It's coming out July 9th. don't know if i said the old guard's coming out July 2nd, but anyway, it's always sunny in Philadelphia is July nine That's crazy. 17 seasons. is Good for them.
02:23:02
Speaker
Good for them. Impressive. And I got another one too. do you you got this one? No. You got another I'm done. That's it? Yeah. Dexter Resurrection Season 1 premiere. Oh, dude. That's coming out now?
02:23:13
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That's crazy. July 11th. Same day as Superman. Cool. I could not finish the prequel show. Wasn't vibing with it. But you watched the other one. New Blood. Yeah, I did. This is a sequel to New Blood.
02:23:24
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Yeah. So maybe I'll watch this. I don't know. We'll we'll see. It's on Paramount. We're vibing with it. It's too bad because like the thing about the prequel one that I really like about it is I really like Christian Slater. Yeah. I don't know why. I just don't know why.
02:23:36
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He's just good. I think he's really good in Mr. Robot. Like really good. He's like very compelling to watch. Yeah. i don't know. Maybe it was just a place in time. The casting in that show is not the issue. i just think it's kind of annoying.
02:23:49
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Because they they focus a lot on Deb, which is like Dexter's sister in the prequel. And she's just this bratty, annoying teenage kid. Like genuinely intolerable to watch. And it's like they put such a focus on her and her like what she's doing when she's not around. it' like I do not give a fuck about this, dude.
02:24:08
Speaker
It is boring. It's annoying. And I'm not having a good time. Maybe they're going somewhere with it. I don't give a shit. I don't care. i know where they go with her character because I watched all of Dexter. Like, I don't need this filled in. I don't need to see her bad relationship with with Harry and how she's, like, rebelling.
02:24:27
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And eventually, I guess, becomes like a cop. Like, I don't give a shit about that. It's not good. And you wrote a bad character. She's intolerable. Intolerable. That's cool. That's cool. So, yeah. Yeah.
02:24:39
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Yeah. man That was it. That was all I had for picks. I always pick six because I think that there's going to be crossover. We didn't have that much overlap. I guess it was just Jurassic World and Superman. Yeah. I have the old guard on my list as well.
02:24:51
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. I picked six too, Simon. I picked six. Good for you. Good. Good for me. Cool, man. All right. Well, that's it, I guess.
02:25:02
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I have no idea what we're going to call this episode. but Dude, I know exactly what we're going to call it. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not going to say it, though. Okay, we'll see you after. right, well, that's it. do you have anything else to say to the audience before we wrap this baby up?
02:25:16
Speaker
No, I'm done. I'm done talking. You're doing that again, eh? Yeah, no, I'm not going to do again. I already did that bit once. No, no, I'm kidding. Yeah, the thing is is that no one listens this to this podcast, so you could do it again. kind of just pretended.
02:25:30
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Well, like I mean, I'm not performer. I'm just chatting with you, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. doing this to chat with you, to chat with my friend. Yeah, yeah, right. Simon Eadie.
02:25:41
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my That's my point. So you could just do it again if you want, if that's what you feel like is necessary. No. But I do remember that you did it before. so It was like a week ago. Two weeks ago, six weeks ago. It was more than that. It was like six weeks, maybe eight weeks ago. All right.
02:25:54
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Eight weeks ago. Adrian. I thank the audience for listening to episode 113 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie, and it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my fantastic co-host, Adrian Pinter.
02:26:12
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Please join us on July 15th, 2025, for episode 114. Good evening to you, and good luck. Take care. Goodbye.
02:26:24
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Goodbye.