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139. Krem de la Krem of 2D Villains
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Adrian & Simon review director Craig Gillespie’s DC Universe film, Supergirl. Plus, Adrian raves about Pixar’s Hoppers animated film and critiques the Netflix film, Apex; while Simon explains why he strongly recommends Apple TV’s horror/comedy Widow’s Bay. Additionally, the two pals discuss The Office actor Rainn Wilson’s bizarre opinion on modern TV comedies, they analyze the reasoning behind Netflix’s canceling of very popular Duffer Brothers retirement community horror series, The Boroughs, and they speculate on the imminent casting of the next James Bond.
This episode was recorded in Canada on June 26th 2026. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on July 14th for Episode 140.
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Film Reviews and Industry Insights
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This episode, we review director Craig Gillespie's DC Universe film, Supergirl. We discuss the reasoning behind Netflix's cancellation of the Duffer Brothers horror series, The Burroughs, while also conversing about director Denis Villeneuve's search for the next James Bond. And we talk about Rainn Wilson's incredibly annoying and stupid comment about you can't make comedies like The Office anymore because everyone's too politically correct.
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Just watch more comedies, dude. Like, it's I hate this. i hate this. I'm going rant about this. It's so stupid. It's so annoying. Shut up. It's wrong. Shut up. issue it's it's It's wrong.
Podcast Introduction and Technical Difficulties
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Welcome to episode 139.
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well welcome to episode one episode one thirty nine wow i think well i said welcome first and then you said welcome so i thought we were like trying to do something like together oh okay you want to try that together we do it together this time let's do it together let's do it together okay well welcome ah dude come on one Huh?
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No, I was, I'm doing the hand motions in the camera. We did it at the same time. No, we didn't. We did. Came through that way on my end. Oh, well, you're delayed on my end. Oh, okay. Okay, let's try this again. Well, I'm just going to sync it anyway, dude.
00:01:20
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Oh. I'm going to edit and post. Come on, bro. Oh, I didn't nice Welcome to to episode 139. Welcome episode 139.
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I gotta say.
Personal Stories and Surgical Experiences
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i got to say Gum grafts aren't good. they're not They're not fun. I wouldn't say they're not good, but they're also crazy. You know, you get a gum graft on your teeth. No. It's like a crazy like Frankenstein situation. You take the they take the freaking like flash off the top of your mouth and then they put it on your front of your gums. Anyway, I don't know about how talkative I'm going to be today because i I I'm struggling a little bit to talk, which is ironic because we're on a podcast. But that's what I've been dealing with with for the last week. Okay, so that's the medical issue that you refused to tell me about through text when I was worried. i was like, hey, I hope everything's okay. And you're like, but and then just ignoring my text. Fantastic. Why didn't they say, wella
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moon I meant to tell you at the theater, but we didn't really get a chance to talk too much. No. But it wasn't something to talk about in ah in a text. I don't like texts. don't if you know that text messages kind of suck.
00:02:46
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I know. They're not very good ah as a means of communication, in my opinion. I don't like them. But anyway, I meant to tell you, but then I did not because. Yeah. You know who told me?
00:02:56
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That you had a gum surgery? your Your wife. My wife. Your wife. She told me. I like, oh, oh, that was the medical issue that he mentioned in passing in text. Yeah. That I was like, oh, are you okay that you refused to answer? you just said, yeah. you You just ignored it.
00:03:11
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No, I said, yeah. Whatever. I don't care. I said but I answered that question. Did you? Yeah, I did. You can go back and check, but we're on a podcast now. now I'm going to go back and check. I'm going to read this. You might have to help me out, but yeah yeah you've never had a gum graft, I assume. No, I don't even know. When your gum's receding and then they're trying to like make it not recede, so they add, again, flesh on the top of your mouth. do you brush your teeth too hard? No.
00:03:31
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I think it's a braces ah require it's a braces issue. oh Like the braces on the bottom of my teeth, they pushed my teeth out to a supernatal like a supernatural at im natural level. And then it caused it cause the front two teeth, like the very bottom front two teeth to recede. It's very annoying because I have a feeling that it's going to do it again. And the periodontist or whatever, the the the gum specialist, They said that it wouldn't happen again. They wouldn't receive again. But I don't know if that's true. But anyway, it's crazy. So I'll tell a brief story because I want to talk too much.
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ah Despite, again, being on a podcast here. But there was a there was a moment like it was like it was last Friday. So it's been a week now. it's We're recording this on a Friday. Our podcast airs on a Tuesday.
00:04:17
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And so this is a Friday from that date. But not long ago, like two days ago or three three days ago. And then this that happened again the next day. I, uh, so I didn't really have any issues on the weekend. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then Monday I didn't really have any issues. And then Tuesday,
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All of a sudden, the top the top part, it was like the flesh that was taken out of the top of my, that was stitched together at the top of my mouth. flesh. The roof of my mouth. It just started to like bleed profusely to the point where I was like breathing through my nose and there was like blood pouring out of my mouth.
00:04:48
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It was a terrifying, terrifying scenario. That's pretty metal, though. that's why I said that thing, like barring a medical issue, because if it started to bleed randomly, I wouldn't have been able to drive Kenneth Saddlebauer to the movies.
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which is what you were asking me to do. And so I just kind of like the fair warning, but I didn't think it was going to happen again because I kind of tamped it down. It's crazy because I didn't know where it was bleeding from. I thought it could be for the gums or it could be from the top of the mouth, but I couldn't see because my mouth was full of blood.
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and I was actually scared. I was like, this is actually terrifying. I'm like, but I have to go to the hospital. But my wife was gladly, thankfully, thank God she was there because she was able to look up and see that it was where it was bleeding from through the blood pouring out of my mouth.
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I it was scary because I'm like, I lost a lot of blood in that moment. Like it was just five minutes of I couldn't find out where the blood is coming from. Well, were you swallowing it? Because if you swallow it, then you don't you're not losing any of it.
00:05:42
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Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah. No, I wasn't. I was coming in and in the sink. i was yeah I was swallowing it initially and then afterwards a little bit. But anyway, yeah, i I don't think that's how it works. But yeah, it would be cool if that would be how it recycles. You know, you're just bleeding out of ah like an arm wound and you're just like, it's OK, I got it. And you just put it up to your mouth.
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That's well it but now I'm having issues like it's funny because the last few days I've been okay and then now I have an issue because the top the top stitch popped out of the the top roof of my mouth it hasn't been splitting which is great it's healed up mostly but the top stitch popped out and so now it's bothering me it's like dangling down and it's it's causing it to pull the flesh to the top of my mouth anyway too much information I apologize it sucks um And I'm worried that it's just going recede again, as I kind of alluded to earlier. I'm worried it's going to just recede, that the gums are just going to recede again. and It would be all for naught because it is an expensive procedure.
00:06:33
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um It's not covered through OHIP here in in Canada. We have universal health care, but we don't it doesn't cover dentistry for the most part. It does in some aspects if you're retired or whatever, or like very young, but it does not cover.
00:06:47
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And so it would be a shame if it doesn't end up working. But it will be it is. Was it expensive? Again, I don't know the cost of. Over $2,000. Oh. whole Quick pricey. And then I'm out of commission for but a week because I can't, I shouldn't really be talking and I've been eating only so ah soup and stuff. because What kind of soups? ah I don't know, like tomato soup, trying to get it as as much liquid in there as possible without the chunks.
00:07:11
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And then Dawn made an excellent, but she makes an excellent potato soup. It's like potato and bacon. Nice. It's like a creamy potato soup. It's so good. it's It's genuinely awesome. It's very, very good.
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And so she made that. That's what I started to bleed into, though. I think one of the big potato chunks nicked the top and it just started to bleed really badly. And then the next day I was just eating yogurt and it started to bleed profusely. And then the and then ice cream. It is sort of like there's like there's no chunks of this. What's causing this to bleed?
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And so, yeah, it's been fragile, which is annoying. But the gums haven't led really and like post the weekend. um Anyway, there's too much information, too much medical. This is not a medical podcast, Adrian. It's a film and TV podcast.
00:07:54
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Yeah. And I guess I'd be
Weekly Plans and Social Activities
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remiss if I did ask you how you're doing. How are you doing, sir? Because I knew you were salty about that. Mind your own business. How about that?
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How about that? nice How about that? No, I'm okay, man. Yeah. Taking it day by day. Yeah. Yeah. You know? yeah Okay. I'm excited for this next week. I'm off the next week.
00:08:18
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Okay. I have a friend visiting from out of town. He's hanging out. So we're going to get a lot of couch co-op gaming in, dude, which I'm very excited about. Cool, man. And then my wife's birthday is on on Tuesday when this episode goes live. Then Canada Day the following day. yeah Which I'm thinking about doing a barbecue. was going to formally invite you live right now. You and your wife, if you guys want to come to a barbecue. I might do Smash Burgers on my Blackstone.
00:08:50
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If weather permits, if not, then I got to, I got to pivot and do something inside, but there's options. Yeah. Um, so the so invitation sent. Let me know. Okay.
00:09:03
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If you want to come pending. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome, dude. You're welcome. um Yeah. Apart from that, man. Yeah. Pretty OK.
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Pretty OK. Watch a few movies over the last little bit. Yeah. few. One of which we watched together.
In-depth Analysis of 'Supergirl'
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Indeed. Which um we could dive right into if you want.
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Yeah, let's do it. OK, awesome. So you and I and Kenneth, your wife, my wife, we went to the theater. for an early access fan only screening of the new DC universe movie, Supergirl.
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Fan only screening. It actually was. That's what they labeled it as in in the Cineplex app. It's like a fan early access screening or something like that.
00:09:56
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Oh, do we have access because we're CineClub members? No. I have no idea. it was just there, and I booked the ticket. I feel like that's a marketing ploy, but yeah, okay. Yeah. So we went on the Wednesday when I think the wide release was technically on the Friday, but then they always have like the day before showing. So we went on the Wednesday.
00:10:13
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we did. Two days ago, June 24th, to watch again this Craig Gillespie-directed iteration in the DC universe of Supergirl starring Millie Alcock and...
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I'm curious, Simon, high level thoughts. What did you think of this movie? Oh, high level. I was hoping you would start. Oh, they're high level, so it doesn't really matter. Bird's eye view. ah the um i yeah I liked it overall, I guess, but I was very disappointed and in parts. there's There's elements of the story that I didn't like. i I think it was poorly written at times. It's funny because... definite my My ultimate bird's eye view thoughts on this is that the first two thirds of the movie were quite strong and I was very disappointed in the last third. Like the third act was the disappointing part disappointing part for me.
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um that's That's kind of the idea. One thing I do like actually a lot though, um I like the world building, the universe building aspect of it. I i like the like the Star Wars type of... you know, creature, creature building, all the different spaceship designs and all the different visual effects and and like, uh, even like the, the costume designs, like that in terms of like the making you feel like you're in this, like kind of lived in galaxy or whatever, wherever they are, which is cool. And I think the music,
00:11:31
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was quite good, actually. Interestingly, yeah I think the like the I think it's Claudia Sarn is her name. Like the composer did a really good job. Actually, there's it's funny. I was I was thinking about it earlier today. I was was getting some yogurt in a bowl to eat ah my lunch and breakfast because that's what I eat now. It's yogurt. And ah and and I was thinking I was I had a tune humming in my brain like it was just stuck in my my mind. And I was like, oh, that's the theme of the Supergirl movie. I'm like, well, Okay. It was like a few days since we watched it.
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So i it's cool. Like it's catchy. I like the theme song for the film and i and i I like the choice of music for the soundtrack kind of, you know, the and although there, I have other issues with the the music being in the movie actually funny enough, but other than that, like for the over, like, you know, um, like non-diegetic sound, like the sound over, over top of the, of the, of the, not the action, but I guess, i don't know.
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Not my point is in the bar. I don't understand how you have ah music from earth playing that. That was kind of what I'm trying to get at. It's very odd. There's like bars in the galaxy that they're in. And I don't understand how you have music playing in these bars that are from earth. I don't, How does that happen? And I wish they could have explained more of like the what language they're speaking in in this movie that's kind of a nitpick, but I don't really understand that aspect. that this like That's not high-level thoughts, obviously. But anyway, my point is, the music I'm talking about is the music for the montage sequences, etc. And I think Claudia Sarn's score is good, too. I think it's great. Anyway, that's that's my high-level thoughts with tiny specifics in there for music.
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yeah What do you think about it, buddy? ah I feel like... I'm kind of in the same boat as you like. I found this movie like relatively enjoyable. I thought it was pretty good.
00:13:23
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Like okay to pretty good is like kind of the scale I put it on My biggest issue with this movie by far is the villain, which is so incredibly two-dimensional and bland.
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that i just I just couldn't care for it. it's They tried to go pretty far with the like dark elements with it, but I just don't think the impact was there, unfortunately, even though they they they do some pretty big swings.
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So i was I was left fairly disappointed from that aspect. I also just think... the story itself is very bare bones in a lot of ways. Like to to be totally transparent, the, the story, the setup is exactly what's shown in the trailer and there isn't much else to it, which is not necessarily a problem.
00:14:17
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If you do a good job, um, you know, I guess expanding on it and like providing an interesting movie all the way through. But I just found that this movie was just very inconsistent. Some poor writing. I don't think there's much character development apart from Supergirl a Supergirl's character specifically. Um, I think Millie Alcock was remarkable in this movie though. I think she's really, really great. I think honestly the cast was all pretty darn good and they were doing what they can with the script that they were given.
00:14:53
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But I just think there was more misses than hits in this movie. And I, I left the theater fairly disappointed. Like I was, i had high hopes for this movie. Um,
00:15:05
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And I just think, again, there's there's too many inconsistencies. you You mentioned as well, like the the alien aspect. And I think it's cool that they have a lot of different aliens. But it is also like, why are most of these aliens just kind of talking in English? Are they talking in English or not? Because they say like common tongue.
00:15:22
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I guess us as the viewers are viewing it as English. But then they are also talking different languages in the movie yeah that are like noises. And then I guess like Kryptonian and stuff like that as well. I think the problem is the Kryptonian. That's, I think, why there's an issue for me. Because obviously, Kara, like Supergirl, is Kryptonian.
00:15:44
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Yeah. So you see her speaking Kryptonian in the movie, but then they barely explain the languages in the movie and how she's speaking like this galactic common or whatever they're calling it.
00:15:56
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I just find it odd because it's confusing and they kind of explain it away in like a one liner, but that's not enough. And I feel like it's not enough as well because you over explained the sun's thing. Like, Oh, the yellow sun makes you powerful. The red sun makes you not powerful. It's like, okay, I get it. It's like you, you explained that five times, but you didn't explain the languages thing. And it, and it's confusing because Kara and family are speaking Kryptonian.
00:16:20
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but Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. criper Yeah. Kryptonian on Krypton. So that's kind of my issue is that because of that contrast, it's like in Guardians of the Galaxy, it's funny. I don't really think about it. You know what i mean? Well, weird they they even talk about how like a lot of people just have translators in their ear.
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So they just have a translator and it just does it like they they explain it within like a few lines of dialogue. That's how like everyone understands each other. um Part of me. No, in Guardians where they have a translator and then, yeah, it's like cool.
00:16:50
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they They say, hey, there's a translator. Everyone just kind of universally understands each other because of this thing that they have. And it's like, oh, OK, cool. You can grasp on that. That solves it because everyone's speaking the same language. it's It's like, except for Groot, it's not really that big of a thing. Like, it's not nobody makes a big deal out of it.
00:17:05
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I think it's just like, especially because also a highlight. I said this when we left the theater. I thought that David Krumholz's character was speaking very emotionally in Kryptonian. I thought he was he gave a really great performance, actually, as cars for a father.
00:17:21
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think that I can't remember his name, something L I think. Yeah, as they are. but I thought he did a really good job. I thought that was like, oh wow, this is cool. He's he's I felt like his performance was really solid, whereas everyone else speaking in Kryptonian was like, ah, it's fine. It's like, whatever. They're speaking this fake language on this planet. But there's something about his, the way he, like, orated, the way he spoke, like, it felt...
00:17:46
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compelling. I felt compelled. I was i was intrigued by by his character. I thought he was cool. like But I don't know. that that is There's also a problem with some of the these flashbacks. And i feel like they didn't give enough. like They're almost like... there i wanted... The movie's called Supergirl. And this is going to be a ah trend through my ah critique of this film.
00:18:08
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It's called Supergirl. And I feel like they didn't go enough into her backstory and what she's dealt with in in some weird way. but I agree. don't know what it is. There's yeah an issue with the the flashbacks. They could have gone more. They could have done more in in terms of that. I feel like it's kind of missed opportunity.
00:18:26
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Yeah, because it's it's essentially like, you know, like what what separates her from, you know, Superman. And, you know, Superman landed on Earth as a baby and then he was raised by this like small town family from Kansas City. And then she, you know, saw her planet ah essentially destroyed, but not really.
00:18:43
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And then has to like leave her her family behind, you know, in her early 20s. And like, how does that impact this woman? um, compared to, you know, a Superman. And it's like, it kind of does. It just makes sure. is it They didn't explain, they didn't show that they showed the part. Like we get it. that This happened.
00:19:01
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We all know that. Cause that's like her story known for dozens of years now at this point. So like we get that, we understand that as, as the audience, we, What are you going to show? are going to show us how that impacted her without her just saying this impacted me is basically what happened. She just said it it impacted me. I was like, OK, that's cool. And so that's why I said the first two thirds of the film are good. But then they didn't go into the the rest of it. It felt like the flashbacks just ended. And you're like, OK, yeah, she's she's hurting.
00:19:31
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OK, OK, I get it. Like, show us how she's hurting after the events that caused her to feel this way. Like what? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like, okay. And honestly, I just feel like the impact of her,
00:19:48
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like the impact of her, I don't know, like it did it just didn't seem to impact her that much. Like she's just kind of. I don't know. Essentially, it's like she's like an early 20s, like party girl that that just likes to that just just likes getting hammered.
00:20:03
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And that's really the the key differences with her. and it's like she doesn't have hope and she's more of a realist is kind of what they say. But I just feel like the impact wasn't there as much. So like the payoff wasn't really there. Kind of getting to the end of the movie.
00:20:17
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I also think, you know, they they they really pushed for this like you know, almost like older sister, younger sister relationship with this young woman that like Supergirl's with like the, you know, her, her family's killed and she's on a revenge quest and Supergirl is going to help this girl kill this vaguely Eastern European um villain. That again is so two dimensional who also shoots crypto. Again, all this is shown in the trailer and it's like, okay, that happens.
00:20:48
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Um, And by the end of the movie that like we're expected to like believe the relationship they have, but it's like they don't really have one. It's literally like Supergirl being like, stay put kid, don't follow me. And her just being like, I'm going to, I'm going to come on this adventure with you. And they're at odds the entire time until they're kind of not.
00:21:10
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And you're just like, okay, okay. I don't know I just feel like the payoff wasn't there. And I think a lot of that has to do with kind of the shoddy writing throughout the film. um Yeah, I don't know. I feel like this movie had like a lot of issues. The more I like think about it, the less I like it, which sucks because I really wanted to like this movie. Like I went in like with high hopes and.
00:21:32
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Again, i i don't think it had to do with the performances is the issue too, right? Like I feel like sometimes I can like point out like, oh, you know, I feel like bad performance here, bad performance there. But ultimately I just think the writing was subpar.
00:21:44
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What about, what ah so I agree, especially Millie Alcock. I think she was excellent. And she's really, i i love her as Supergirl. It's really cool. It's really great. And I think, yeah, all the performances.
00:21:57
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What about Matthias Schoenertz, the actor who plays the villain? Do you think he was doing a bad job? No, because like, again, it's like what you're given, like he's just going at it, man. Like he has a script that he's following along with and i think he's doing a good job. He's animated and everything, but it's like your dialogue and what you're given is so bland and boring that I think he's doing the best he can with, with what, what, what he's given personally. Yeah. um yeah But again, he's just like a vaguely Eastern European bad guy that happens to be some alien.
00:22:31
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It's weird. He's basically a bandit, too. He's he's part of a man like a clan called the Brigands. he's just the like guy he's not like you really He's a generic kind of villain type guy, which is interesting. His name is Krem.
00:22:42
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um And one might say he's the Krem de la Krem of 2D villains. but Oh, dude, that's that's a good one right there. Here's the thing. Here. Yeah, you're really laughing.
00:22:54
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I can hear it. here Yeah. Adrian, I'm actually going to say something a little controversial here. Because I knew you' were going to say this about Krem. And you said he was 2D. And this is a problem.
00:23:04
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And this is one of the biggest problems in the movie, you said. I disagree with you. I think he's 2D. Yeah. But i don't think it's one of the biggest problems movie in the movie. In fact... There's this thing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a lot of superhero movies where the villain is is very two-dimensional. It's actually not a problem, though, most of the time. Most people don't even talk about it. In fact, one of the villains I like to think about when i think about this is, strangely, a villain played by Cate Blanchett, who I think actually she plays a two-dimensional villain in Thor Ragnarok.
00:23:36
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Yeah, that's true. They don't really dive into her, but she's an amazing actor. She does a good job. The thing is is that her job... is to play that actor. That kind of villain is almost like wallpaper. They're a chair. They're a piece of furniture in the movie. Not not to hurt the actor's feelings. I'm saying they're doing a really good job to do that. And their job is to have conviction as the villain, to to be this this force, this basically this thing that's immutable, that's not going to change, not going to be character developed, because their job is not to do any development of that character. They're not supposed to be developed.
00:24:07
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That's the idea. And I can name like multiple Corey Stoll's character in Ant-Man. Again, still a good movie though. Doesn't that nobody's like, Oh, Tootie Vellan. I mean, they do think it, but it's not that big of a problem.
00:24:19
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Killmonger is an exception to the rule. I feel like in Black Panther, if we're looking at the Marvel cinematic formula. Yep. But you notice the movies I'm talking about are actually following a certain formula. And there's actually a villain in these movies that is not the villain that's obvious.
00:24:33
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We look at Krem and think, oh, he's the villain. But he's not the villain. The actual villain in these movies is... The hero. They're themselves. They're fighting themselves. They're fighting their own psyche and who they are. It's the enemy within. They're they're they're trying to – like the the the biggest a challenge is to overcome themselves, not the actual people in front of them, not the not the people they're clashing swords with is is kind of the idea. So Krem is that, but he's perfect because he's just a random bandit. He doesn't even seem like he could even – he could just not have a name.
00:25:04
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His name is Krem, but I mean, he he could just not have a name because he's not important. And this is the thing. So the problem with the movie, and I know why you pointed out the Krem is a bad villain, two-dimensional is a problem. I know why you did.
00:25:16
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The Krem de la Krem of 2D villains, yeah. Yeah, the Krem de la Krem. But the reason you pointed it out is because they didn't do a good job with making Kara...
00:25:29
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Her internal struggles, the actual villain, the actual obstacle she has to overcome. They did a bad job in the last third of the film. They failed. And then you're looking at Krem like, it's your fault, bro. But it's not his fault.
00:25:41
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Matias Schoenerts did a great job. In fact, I was completely compelled by him. Like, wow, this guy's just a, he's a villain with a capital V. like Like, wow, okay. He's really a dick. Like, he's killing people. ever and center He's a sociopath. Like, I get it. I understand. He's pulling it off, but he's a piece of furniture. Like, crypto is a piece of furniture.
00:25:59
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Crypto and Krem are the inciting incident, but they're not actually important to the overall plot. The plot had to be resolved when Kara... learns to love people again, to belong in a society, to actually, you know, let people into her life. But she doesn't want to do that. That's the whole, in this trailer, it shows that were in the beginning. they're like She's like, I don't have people.
00:26:19
Speaker
i don't have I don't have my own people. She says to Clark on the on the video call in the trailer. yeah It's like, yeah, we get it. So you're going to learn how you're going to find your people at the end. She, I don't want to spoil anything, but I feel like they just didn't answer that part of the the plot in a substantial way. They they did it, but they did they didn't dive into it as they're supposed to at the yeah end.
00:26:39
Speaker
And I feel like the problem is as well. So there's no character development with her and where she ends up at the end of the movie. I kind of felt like she, I'm like, are you in the same position you were in the beginning? Like I wasn't even compelled. There's like a final scene between two characters and I'm going to spoil it.
00:26:53
Speaker
And I'm like, Aren't you kind of feeling the same way? Like, did you really get to where you are? And I feel like that that last scene was very not compelling. It's interesting. That last scene, I feel like it could have been an end credit scene, but they're like, no, this isn't really a good end credit scene because it's yeah really bad. Also, it's no end credit scene in this movie.
00:27:10
Speaker
That's why I think they did that because I think that was the end credits scene, but then they put it at the end credits and I think it was ah is a test screening issue. My question is, was this movie test screened and they removed scenes that they were meant they meant to put into the movie?
00:27:22
Speaker
if And then they added scenes in in like reshoots that weren't supposed to like stuff that hit the cutting room floor for character development. They thought it wasn't exciting enough because test screeners were like, no, it has to be exciting. The final battle is the most important thing or some shit.
00:27:36
Speaker
Because felt like the movie just feels really weird at the end. And and I say this also because...
00:27:43
Speaker
ah it just, it feels very disjointed. There's a moment where Kara is on her knees in, again, the the last act, and you there's a shot of her face, and she's, like, in misery.
00:27:55
Speaker
And I was just like, wait, again, are they resolving the actual problem? Like, she was supposed to be learning to to love again or whatever. Like, are they doing that? If you know what i'm talking about, you know what scene I'm talking about? Yeah, I know. It's like a weird scene, and then what happens after that, I'm like,
00:28:13
Speaker
This is just random. Like these are random events happening. So by the end of the movie, I'm like, well, I, I liked this movie up until the two thirds mark. And I was like a four out of five. And then, oh, the last third, I was like, this is like a three, maybe a 2.5. Like, how did this happen? Like what, how did you shit the bed so badly at the very end? It's it's just, it feels like they, they like, again, they test screened it and they're like, oh,
00:28:36
Speaker
but We need to make it more action heavy. It's like, we don't need to make it... like it's about character The character is what it's about. The script seemed to be the second. It was like Kevin Feige's idea of plussing. Like, do they plus this movie? Do they write a script first?
00:28:49
Speaker
Or do they write the script while they were making it? It it just feels like that. I don't i don't know if you get get my drift here, but... No, I get where you're coming from entirely. Yeah, it just... it Yeah, it was a little...
00:29:02
Speaker
it did almost seem kind of like a shoehorn third act in a lot of ways where they're like, okay, we need a big set piece. So let's do this. And again, I feel like it also adds, like there is a pacing issue throughout the movie as well, because I'm confused ah as as to the top, like the movie technically takes place over the course of three days.
00:29:19
Speaker
three moon cycles as they say oh yeah they did yeah which is also kind of confusing because i don't like do because she's specifically says i got 72 hours so i'm like so does a day last the exact same amount on this specific planet as it does on earth i was kind of confused when they mentioned that i was like du are days all the same regardless of where you are in in this universe so that was a little bit of a weird thing but then again like it's like we see it feels like they skipped the entire second day. i don't know if you picked up on that, but like I did.
00:29:50
Speaker
Yeah. So like you have your first day and then all of a sudden we're on the last day. We're running out of time. She's like, Oh my God, my dog's going fucking die, dude. She didn't say like that, but essentially it's that. And then they have like these like action set pieces to eventually, you know, again, resolve the movie. And you're like, huh?
00:30:08
Speaker
huh like ah There was a piece missing ah throughout this. And as much as I like Jason Momoa as an actor, and I think Lobo is pretty cool like coming in. Again, I feel like he was very underutilized as well. He was just like, I'm just some guy.
00:30:22
Speaker
He sure weren't in the movie. It's funny, we're Ken. So we went to the movie with Kenny, dressed up as Lobo, did a great job with the costume. That was awesome. We're driving. and and And he's like, I'm like, oh, so Lobo's in this comic? And he's like, no, no, he was shoehorned in. I'm like, OK, well, hopefully they use him well. No, they didn't. The thing about Lobo, why is he in the movie at all?
00:30:41
Speaker
It's not just, like, why is he there? Like, you can say, oh, he's underutilized. If you're going to use him, he's literally a bounty hunter mercenary. And there's a scene, another scene, again, the third act always comes down to the third act, where there's two characters sitting in ah in ah in a jail cell.
00:30:58
Speaker
They're sitting in this cell. And like, there's a moment here where you can, you can leverage Lobo here. You can leverage him now because he's a mercenary. His job is to do stuff for money.
00:31:09
Speaker
So you can use him to actually have him make sense in this movie, but he never made sense in the movie. And that was the scene you could solve that. And instead of solving it that way, they made that secondary character you talked about earlier.
00:31:20
Speaker
do some weird wacky shit that I'm like, wait, what? ah What? It doesn't make any sense. It's just nonsense. And it's like, why did you do that? And my answer to that is why? Because they were actually character developing this character.
00:31:32
Speaker
So they spent the time character developing Ruthie, this this random girl on this journey for, you know the the revenge you know, revenge. But she's like, she's learning to know herself.
00:31:43
Speaker
Like she doesn't know who she is either. And Kara is helping her on on this journey because it's like a, it's a buddy movie. They're, they're going on this journey across the galaxy and they're going to, they're going to learn from each other to make each other better. That's kind of the plot line. And you can see that right in the trailer.
00:31:56
Speaker
But Ruthie's so character development is for some reason takes the front seat to Kara's backseat for like a lot of the movie, especially the third act. And I'm just like, but But why is that the case? Because I don't think the movie is called Ruthie, Adrian. I'm pretty sure it's called, wait for it, Supergirl. So why are you focusing on Ruthie instead of Supergirl, especially in the third act? There's there's a moment where Kara is like sidelined. I'm like, what what are we doing here?
00:32:23
Speaker
And what Kara has to learn, right? As as they you kind of say is she has to find her people. She has to learn to love people again or like trust them. She doesn't trust them. But they could have done that.
00:32:36
Speaker
by making these characters actually be trustworthy or she she learns she needs their help. But that's not really what happens because of the what they do with this weird thing with Krim.
00:32:47
Speaker
So Krim, for some reason, this is the other reason why people point out, I think you would point out he's two dimensionals because he's kind of really smart, which I think is like, OK, that's really cool. But then um'm at a moment, he's then not smart.
00:33:02
Speaker
In the third act. And I'm like, that's fine though, because he he solved it because he's anarchist. I can believe, I can believe it. It's not a plot hole. The problem is if you're trying to solve your movie, you kind of make him smart and then make the characters, the heroes. Outsmart him. Fix.
00:33:19
Speaker
Right. But also make Kara require these characters to outsmart him. That's the goal. Not randomly or like there's a random moment where she's, she's saved. Like that's not the point. Like,
00:33:31
Speaker
I don't understand. They they forget. they lost They literally lost the plot. This is like the yeah definition of losing the plot. They forgot what they were doing. like You don't understand what you're making here. You're making a movie about her journey because the movie is called Supergirl.
00:33:44
Speaker
You need to learn teach us who she is for the next movie. And the reason why I also use Marvel Cinematic Universe formula as ah as a kind of ah ah a template is because this is that movie. You had a movie called Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow and you changed it to just Supergirl.
00:34:01
Speaker
You could have just called it Woman of Tomorrow or something else. Why do you call it just Super Bowl? Do you not understand why you're doing that? I'm lost on this. And Lobo could have been useful. Otherwise, he should have been kicked out of the movie. Because there's a moment where he's like- He's literally there just to get them out of a situation in the third act. Quite literally. They're like, oh, let's have this guy here so we can have an excuse to get- I don't get why he's there. How did that even happen? Do you remember what happened? It makes Yeah, I don't get how he got it. It's plot comedians in a lot of ways. But it didn't have to be.
00:34:32
Speaker
Yeah. but No, I agree. I agree. There's like so many solutions. You could have you have the solutions in front of You didn't make them. Like, I'm not a screenwriter. Like, I could have wrote this movie better than you for sure in using your movie. Like, I'm not going to change the movie drastically. I'm just going to – I think that's why cutting room floor situations happen. Like, you removed scenes that would have made sense for the film for what you were trying to build. And instead, you focused on, like, like the morality of Ruthie. Like, what is it? what Okay. Like – what are we learning here? Like I, I, you have really mixed messaging and a moral perspective. I don't know what's going on here. I have no idea what you're playing at.
00:35:04
Speaker
I was very confused. um Yeah. It also feels like, i don't know, you you, you brought up a couple of things that actually kind of just reminded me like there, there are, I feel like this movie borrows a lot of plot ideas from a bunch of other media. So like, obviously again, you have your like kind of MCU formula, but even,
00:35:21
Speaker
I mean, you're talking about the third act. There's almost like a last of us comparison in a lot of ways. We're like, we're going to do the last of us thing um with, you know, ah a character getting sidelined um in a specific way and like having, you know, like there there, I feel like it bored a lot of plot elements and it just didn't put it together well enough. Yeah.
00:35:42
Speaker
Yeah, man. i think The more I talk about it, the more disappointed I am in this actually. Yeah. I'll go back to my previous point just briefly for a second about Thor Ragnarok. Because I think Thor Ragnarok is actually a really good i love a really good example of what you could look at as a template for this movie. It's this space-faring movie where you're fighting. Now, the villain is more more emotionally connected in that movie, obviously. because but they still It's funny because it is in essence, but they don't use Cate Blanchett very much in that way. like They don't try to develop her. She is two-dimensional. Because she's meant to be a piece of the furniture, an inciting incident like Crypto.
00:36:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was really fun to watch, but crypto is not that important from a character development standpoint. He's never going to develop his character. He is a dog. Spoiler alert. You know what I mean? um But like, I think the idea. cute.
00:36:25
Speaker
The Ragnarok. So if you look at the Ragnarok, is that movie in the third act? it makes it makes me cry thinking about it in some way, or it makes me a little bit emotional to cry, but like it it makes me think about like the triumph of it.
00:36:37
Speaker
There's an element of like the, the the Anthony Hopkins and Chris Hemsworth scenes in that movie are fricking phenomenal. And what they're doing there is again, they're making them overcome. I never really thought about that movie that much as a Marvel cinematic universe formula movie, but it is in many ways. Yeah.
00:36:54
Speaker
Thor is finally actually realizing who he is. Finally, he doesn't really realize who he is in the first two Thor movies. That's why those movies kind of suck. Cause he's just like a comedy comic relief character. Then the movie's called Thor. It's like, well, Thor, the first Thor movie kind of learns a little bit, but the second movie like learns nothing. I can't even, again, ah every time I've seen that movie twice and every time I think about it, I'm like, there's red magic in it. That's what I think about. Like, I'm like, what is a big, what is a big movie? There's a, there's a big black ship that lands and there's like, wow.
00:37:21
Speaker
that's That's it. There's ah there's a Infinity Stone in it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's important. But other than that, like that movie. It was Christopher Eccleston's in that.
00:37:31
Speaker
There was no character development in that movie. Like that's the problem is that nobody develops any character. And and then Thor Ragnarok comes along and everyone's like, oh, this movie is good because it's funny. It's like, not necessarily because Thor Love and Thunder is an issue. And the reason why Thor Ragnarok works so well is emotionality of it.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah. That last scene, the last like act is really, really good because of the fact that Thor is overcoming his own internal struggles really, really well. And I believe it.
00:37:58
Speaker
And I, they, they just didn't do, they like do all these flashbacks in this movie, whereas they do flashbacks and throw Ragnarok as well. They do all these flashbacks in this movie and they don't do anything to like link them to the actual plot of she's going to develop as a character and overcome her own demons, her own inner struggles. She's, they just don't do it.
00:38:16
Speaker
And I'm like, but that's the point of the movie because the whole movie is she's depressed and, Isn't that the idea? alcoholic Yeah. This is wild. It's, it's, it's, it's so terribly disappointing from that angle. So for me, like it is, it's for me, it's a three out of five on letterbox and my drop, I don't think it will go below 2.5 because i I, I really had a lot of fun, especially in the first two thirds. I just don't, I don't get how you lost it that badly.
00:38:41
Speaker
I just don't understand. And Lobo is such a crazy disappointment. And Ruthie needed to be in the movie because Ruthie had to let Cara know, And what her, how she she's going learn from her. Like yeah that's, that's like the last of us. it's ah That's a great example. Like Joel learns from Ellie in the last of us. That is kind of the plot line. Like he doesn't understand. He's a, he's a jaded guy. Actually, it's the same idea. He's a jaded guy going on this journey and he doesn't believe in trusting people anymore. And then, He meets Ellie and then suddenly things are ah are changing. And that's the idea of this film, except you just didn't you didn't follow through on that promise. And then at the end of the movie, again, that last scene, I think is so funny because I'm like, what is the scene? What is the scene?
00:39:24
Speaker
Because the way that these two characters are looking at each other, they're sitting in a room and they're looking at each other. And I'm just like, they're not convinced at all about what they're saying. Like, I was like very confused. Like, I'm not compelled at all. I don't believe them. I just literally didn't believe what they were saying. And i i think back on the scene constantly. Even there's a scene where she's I'm curious, though, like, was was that the intention?
00:39:43
Speaker
Like, or or or not? Because like there I kind of agree with you. Like, it's like they don't believe what they are saying to one another. Yeah. and And I'm like, I'm curious if that was genuinely the intention, if they've thought about that or maybe, maybe not. I don't think so. I think it's so unintentional at the end. It's interesting because I read an article. I can't remember which a reviewer it was, but I thought that made a good point. It's like, how good would this movie have been if it was ah written and directed by James Gunn?
00:40:13
Speaker
A lot better, man. And that's kind of the issue. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of my my issue and and worry because this is technically the first DCU thing that's not fully, you know, controlled. Like, that's that's not his thing, right? Yeah. And it was a miss.
00:40:31
Speaker
It was a miss, like, be totally blunt. How did he let this happen? He said script is the most important thing. I know. And it's, that's the that's the issue. I'm like, do you not have as much creative control as we think, I guess?
00:40:42
Speaker
Like, do you not have the final say? To be fair, like when he talked about the Flash movie, which personally i like the Flash movie, he said he talked super highly of the Flash movie as well. And it's like, maybe you don't actually have like, you're a really great director. You're amazing at what you do in your creative vision, but maybe you're not a good leader.
00:41:01
Speaker
Yeah. Steward. um Which I hate to say, cause I'm a huge James Gunn fan. I love everything he's done. I think Peacemakers, stellar creature commandos, the suicide squad, Superman, i yeah guardians trilogy. Like all this is great. It's just,
00:41:14
Speaker
This is worrisome because again, we're, this is technically the second movie. Yeah. We're getting clay face later this year, which is in this universe. I'm curious how much how connected it's actually going to be. And then Superman, man of tomorrow.
00:41:26
Speaker
Are we going to get much else? My turn. The paramount thing is happening too, right? Paramount buying Warner bros. Is that going to cause issues? Is that going to throw you know a wrench into this whole thing? Are we going to again have another rebooted DC universe? like Again, we don't know. like David Allison was reported as saying like the Paramount leader is buying Warner Brothers.
00:41:47
Speaker
He was reported as saying he likes DC. like He likes what they're doing. so Theoretically, that's good at least. Supergirl doesn't look like it's going to do well box office wise. We'll see how it does. yeah like It's not doing well critically. so Maybe it'll do but better box office, but there's like... the The problem is they have an upward ah uphill battle because there's a bunch of trolls online. They're trolling about something completely... The the thing that the movie did well, actually, is hilarious. The one thing the movie does well. I know. And Millie Alcock. They're like, Millie Alcock? You're not good.
00:42:14
Speaker
She's not good for this. It's like, what? It's crazy. like How are we in a situation where... You people online, these fucking tards online that are trying to argue that Millie Alcock isn't a beautiful woman.
00:42:30
Speaker
I just don't get it. I don't understand. It's so weird to me. we We live in such a weird thing. It's just everyone's like, I don't know, like everyone's just like cast Sydney Sweeney and everything.
00:42:41
Speaker
or Is that the only woman you know? The only woman you see online? Like what is happening? It's so weird, dude. And again, i think Millie Alcock is a phenomenal actor. Like she's awesome in this. She's awesome. She was great in House of the Dragon as well.
00:42:54
Speaker
um I just, I can't, I can't wrap my head around it. We live in such a weird time. There's a bunch of fucking incels online, dude. Yeah. yeah and yeah Yeah, they're going to be like, oh, I told you.
00:43:05
Speaker
So 58% of Rotten Tomatoes. okay it It always sucks. because But it's the funny thing is there's nothing to do with her. She's the one constant in this film that like, I'm sure of this. In fact, actually, I'm also sure of ah Jason Momoa's Lobo. The problem is you just, he shouldn't be in the movie.
00:43:23
Speaker
It's like, why... I don't know. What's an example? you Oh, a good example of this is like Venom in Spider-Man 3. Why is he there? You don't need that. It's completely unnecessary. You have two compelling villains in Spider-Man 3. Just use those ones. that the The actual emotional storytelling is in the second villain. is but Well, it's the third villain, whatever, in Spider-Man 3. You should have used that instead. But and instead, you're focused on freaking...
00:43:47
Speaker
sp venom eddie brock like what's his name um which didn't really fit either but um i know who you're talking about but i can't think of a toe for grace that's yeah the 70s show yeah not that he was bad he was fine it's just that he just doesn't belong here because of the writing um but Uh, anyway, yeah, it's, uh, it's disappointing.
00:44:08
Speaker
It's, uh, it was a disappointing outing. I'm kind of shocked that they they did this. And, and, you know, it's interesting. You said you, maybe James Gunn doesn't have a good handle on it, but it's like, maybe he doesn't have a good handle on it. Cause he's got too much going on. Like it yeah he has other lieutenants, right? So like whoever it is, there are other executives that are going into the, the, the test screening and they're like four. I have this picture. And again, this is all speculation completely, obviously. But like, there's this picture I just believe that they they change something because it just feels so weird. like Like you said, with the days, the number of days, like that doesn't make any sense. Like, how did you lose a day? Like, do you cut stuff out?
00:44:42
Speaker
like It feels like you cut stuff and then you left things in that were not important, but you think they're important because they're what people go to the theaters for the big action sequence. It's it's not what it is. And so James Gunn believes in the in the script. but He believes in the script first and and having it and he approved it. Right. You prove the script. I guarantee. Yeah. So did you prove this or did they change it after in post? Because they're like, no, our test screening audiences don't like this. We're to change this. And the thing about Craig Gillespie is I don't think he's made anything superhero related, at least of this scale.
00:45:10
Speaker
No, Craig Jell-SB may not be like, think about James Gunn in the, in the, with Kevin Feige making guardians of the galaxy. Kevin Feige hires him. James Gunn knows these characters backwards and forwards. He's passionate about it.
00:45:21
Speaker
Kevin Feige, one of Kevin Feige's lieutenants come down and say, Hey, uh, Hey James, you can't do this. You, you, you, you gotta take this part out. And James is like, well, here's one, uh, the three top three reasons why you shouldn't take that out. And they're like, Oh, Oh, okay. But Craig Gillespie, you're going to ask Craig Gillespie, like, hey, man, you got to take this out and replace it with this. And then Craig's like, OK, is it just a job for Craig? Like, I'm sure he's passionate about other products and projects. And he might have been passionate about this. I have no idea. It's speculation. I'm just thinking, like, James Gunn seems immutable. Like, it seems like you couldn't change. You're not going change his mind about something. If you want something in the movie, he's probably to I'm going walk.
00:45:59
Speaker
But Craig Gillespie was like, well, it's like Nia DaCosta.
James Gunn and DC Universe's Future
00:46:03
Speaker
Nia DaCosta is an incredible director. She's really good. yeah The two other things we both saw from her were really, really good in Candyman in the second 28 Years Later movie, ah Bone Temple. And I think like they're amazing. And I wonder like you get creative freedom and then you get people like other chefs in the kitchen who think they know what they're talking about and saying, well, these test screening audiences said this. I think you should listen to them.
00:46:25
Speaker
And like, no, that's kind of, I don't know why I just get that impression like really strongly with this movie more than most, because I just, again, it's not Craig Jossie's fault necessarily. It's just like, I don't, I'm not, look, man, I'm going to go home home to my family. I, this isn't my passion project.
00:46:40
Speaker
Like, you know what really is great? I said this before, your friends and neighbors, really great show executive produced by Craig Gillespie. So, I mean, he's killing it in other places. I, Tonya was Oscar nominated. it's not like he's bad. Same with yeah Eternals.
00:46:55
Speaker
Like Eternals from, from ah maybe that's something made to men may meant to make. I don't know. But we'll never know that. But I just i just feel like. but I feel like Eternals is different. I think Eternals was like a genuinely interesting and compelling movie. It's just people were expecting something different.
00:47:13
Speaker
I think Eternals is different because people were expecting a Marvel movie. And then we got something slow, plotting, very character focused. It's a three hour long like Marvel, pun intended.
00:47:25
Speaker
And it's like people just didn't like it because it didn't follow the action-packed Marvel formula. I think that that movie is different. I think just people weren't expecting what it was. And I went in kind of I'm down for whatever and then was thoroughly impressed.
00:47:39
Speaker
um But yeah, this one, it just seems like, yeah, too many cooks in the kitchen, as you mentioned. And I just, I can't imagine. Again, speculation. Yeah. I can't imagine though that like. Because you assume, you would you have to assume, James Gunn watched this movie before releasing. You have to, right? Yeah, right.
00:48:00
Speaker
And he was cool with it. He watched this and i was like, yeah. I just, I can't. Yeah. It's interesting though. You, you brought up a good point about the flash. I think that's a really good, interesting point to bring up. You know, what's interesting about the flash though.
00:48:14
Speaker
The flash is to me a better movie than this movie. And it's better movie for the reasons I described the problems with Supergirl. Yeah. There was character development with Ezra Miller's flash. and There's legitimately he learns from his mistakes. That's the whole idea the actually of the movie. It's the same idea and it's called The Flash. It's the same idea. it's the Marvel Cinematic Universe of fighting yourself. like You're learning about what it is that makes you tick and you're trying to figure out how to improve yourself. That is the point of The Flash as well. There are some faltering aspects of The Flash. It meanders maybe a little bit in the middle. but that that it's not ultimately I'm surprised actually that's reviewed so badly, but I wonder if it is because of the bad
00:48:51
Speaker
the bad juju around Ezra Miller, right? Like he just that and also like very um questionable CGI in that in that third act. Bring that back. But that shouldn't have affected the score that bad. I agree completely. About that. I agree completely. But I know people like they hung on that and they're like, they shouldn't have done this. This fuck. Yeah.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think that could have been the problem with that movie because I think James Gunn's kind of right about that movie, but I think it had so much bad press surrounding it in various ways, including the CG, I guess. And so that was the issue. there's There's actually something going around about the, not only the script about Supergirl, but the people were saying that they didn't like the CG, but I don't really get that part. I can kind of get it. there There are moments, again, think a lot of that had to do in the third act with the zipping and zapping where it just kind of seemed a little bit inconsistent. Like,
00:49:38
Speaker
Um, but nothing, nothing's so like jarring. Cause again, like I feel like in the flash that, that like there were genuinely jarring moments of CG where i was like, Jesus Christ, what the fuck? But like this one, um, yeah, I don't know. There there wasn't anything where i'm like, wow, this is awful.
00:49:57
Speaker
I just think there were some moments where, like oh, that's a little bit weaker than i feel like other parts of this movie. Yeah, sir. Yeah. But yeah, that's that's my thoughts on this. I don't know. I just. They stupid. It's just dumb. And it's funny because, again, it's it's contrary to what James Gunn has said. It's just it has to be about the script and the characters. And that's the whole goal. And that's what we're going to do. And then he went came out second movie in the.
00:50:24
Speaker
second large movie there's no second movie is there another another movie in his you can argue that the suicide squad is technically canon that was the first one I guess before but before like when he pitched the gods and monsters phase this is the second correct film in that phase it's like okay guy like I really i kept saying and I think you didn't hear me earlier but I think that the big test is going to be like for a project not run by James Gunn and probably very much run by Chris Mundy and and and Damon Lindelof and team like I think lanterns is going to be the thing that will show off whether like they have a handle of these, these third party. i don't know if third party is a good second party, second party ah projects. Like how are they going to be? how are they going to be this James gun? Like again, did he go on vacation? It's like, Oh, we're doing, we're doing reshoots for super girl. He's like, well, I'm in Hawaii. So do a good job, Craig. I trust you. And then he, you didn't look at it. I don't understand.
00:51:20
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i don't, yeah I don't know, but yeah, Yeah, it sucks. like I'm feeling very confident about lanterns. Like, yeah, but yeah, like if it if it comes out and sucks, I'll be like, oh no. And then again, we got clay face, which again, I'm feeling quite confident about as well because it's written by Mike Flanagan. But what if that sucks too?
00:51:37
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Then it's like three misses. That looks like it's bold though. you know what saying? Like Supergirl is almost not bold. Supergirl kind of feels like guardians of the galaxy. That's what's so interesting about that. it is. Yeah. Automatically like you're trying to do James gun, but you're not James gun. It's like, I agree. Yeah. Why, though? And I think... You mentioned this briefly, at like where you like the music, like the score and stuff. But some of the music choices were kind of inconsistent in this movie as well, where I'm like, oh, this doesn't really fit.
00:52:02
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like Especially the ending. prefer the score. like you and You're talking about the outside. Yeah, the actual like music. there are some Yeah, some choices. But there's a lot of music as well. They pulled in licensed music for this as well. But yeah, I'm more...
00:52:16
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I'm a fan of the score than, than I know. I was, yeah. Like I think the score is great, but like the licensed songs that they put in, it felt very James gun in a lot of ways. I'm like, this just doesn't work. Especially the, I think, yeah, one of the last songs in the movie during the final like fight scene. I'm like, huh?
00:52:32
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This is kind of a weird choice. Okay. Yeah. um Even my wife, like she's like, i don't really get why they chose that song for this part. Like I just, it just didn't work. Yeah. They're trying to be him. They're trying to do him, but they just can't.
00:52:45
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Yeah. Cause he like, I think he writes in songs in his scripts when he writes it. Yeah. It's part of his process for his, for the stuff he's directing. So yeah.
00:52:56
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Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. and yeah we'll see what happens with the rest of the universe. But it's not a good start. and And it's a bad time to have a bad, bad film. Because again, of the purchasing of Warner Brothers by Paramount, you want to have hits, you want to be a hitmaker seen as a hitmaker going into the actual the rest of the DC universe, you're only in phase one, you know, you can't really falter like like as as it's noted like the mcu didn't really falter in the first like i don't five movies like it's very rare that they failed i guess thor 2 is the the biggest yeah and you can make an argument iron man too but like even that i think yeah still oh iron man 2 that's a great example but it still did well though in theaters right exactly that's yeah so hopefully it does better at the box office than i anticipate it will for a supergirl but i don't know about that we'll see yeah it's too bad damn
TV and Film Recommendations
00:53:47
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Cool. Anything else that you watched this week? I'll throw you. My mouth's turning a little bit. So anything else you watched then you can throw it back to me at the end. Yeah, I watched a few things actually. Actually quite a few things. Damn. I'm just looking at my list. I watched four freaking movies, dude. On top of Supergirl. um Tell me And a TV show.
00:54:07
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So I'll start with I'll start with the the TV show that I watched. um quick tech oh man, I watched a lot. I'm going to breeze through this for you, Simon. Okay. Watch the the season premiere, the season two, a season three premiere of House of the Dragon.
00:54:22
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um I saw you spill water. Are you okay? Yeah.
00:54:27
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Yeah. I'm fine. Thanks for pointing that out. No worries. We're not on camera here. We we have no video podcast. We're going to point out the water. I swirled all over my shirt. Yeah. A little baby. Like a little baby. Goo goo gaga.
00:54:41
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um I watched. um Yeah. House of the Dragon, the season premiere of season three. um Really great. Really great. All I'm going to say again, I'll be very vague about this.
00:54:55
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It doesn't matter what universe, whether it's a fantasy universe, sci-fi universe, just modern day. Kids. Always make the dumb choices that frustrate the fucking hell out of me.
00:55:09
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And I'll leave it at that. I'll leave it at that. Awesome. First episode. Yeah. But God damn, was it frustrating to watch in some ways? That's fair.
00:55:19
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I. Okay. And then now to the movies i watched. One I want to talk about in a little bit more detail that I think was phenomenal. Actually, my top three movie of the year for me. Okay.
00:55:33
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Definitely top three movie of the year for me. Okay. Wow. It came out on Disney plus recently. Me and my wife wife watched the new Pixar movie hoppers. Nice. It's avatar, but you become a beaver.
00:55:46
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They even say it in the trailer. It's my God, it's like avatar. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. It's in the trailer and in the movie. um It is phenomenal, dude. This movie is like genuinely some of the best. I mean, Pixar just hits all the time. Like I'm trying to say it's some of the best stuff. Pixar has come out, but honestly, I can't think of a Pixar movie. I've really disliked in in recent years. other than I guess Pixar is my dad's a pair of pants.
00:56:10
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Right. And and that' I didn't really dislike that. It just was anyways, not important. Hoppers awesome. So it's about this young, you know, young woman who, um you know, grows up with her grandma and they go to this like nice little like um area that they that they always have nice conversations at. and there's a beautiful wildlife. There's a nice little lake beavers building dams, yada, yada, yada.
00:56:37
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And then many years pass, you know, her grandma like has passed away and, you know, told her like, hey, make sure you take care of this, this, the sanctuary. what I forget what they call it in the movie. And she's like dead set on doing it. So she's like, a she's like, i'm I'm a, you know, ah environmental activist. I want to take care of this place. And she has this like relationship with the mayor of the town she's from, a very negative relationship because he wants to build this overpass,
00:57:03
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um over this, the sanctuary and ah like essentially destroyed. And she's dead set on not allowing that to happen. You know? So she's like fighting the mayor, all of that.
00:57:14
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And the mayor is like, we can do this because animals don't live here anymore. And she realized like, oh shit, there's no animals here. And she finds out that one of her professors at, at school has developed this um machine to put the human body in a robot.
00:57:29
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Um, yeah. And one of the robots happened to be a beaver. So she goes, she finds this out, puts herself in a beaver, and she tries to convince animals to go back into the sanctuary to stop the build from happening, this overpass from happening to to destroy the sanctuary that that she loved so much that spent so much time there with her grandma.
00:57:49
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And that's kind of how the movie plays out. And I don't want to spoil it because this movie goes places that I honestly never expected it to go. It goes like it gets wacky and wild in a lot of ways. And it takes it to like points where I'm like, this might actually not be for children. Like there are like genuinely like kind of frightening and unsettling parts in this movie, which I was shocked about.
00:58:14
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But it is also so heartfelt and endearing and hilarious. I was like, you know, like crying, laughing multiple times in this movie. And I just think it's it's it's remarkable. Like, I genuinely loved it. There's so much to love about it.
00:58:31
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Again, all the characters are so and cute and adorable. Like you have all these like animals and, you know, the the relationship she she's building with these animal friends that she meets. to try to, again, save the sanctuary is so good. And, um, again, really great villain, uh, villains in this movie, three dimensional, unlike, you know, the creme de la creme of 2d villains, creme.
00:58:55
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Um, and yeah, it's, it's awesome, dude. I love this movie. It's probably again, my, my favorite Pixar movie since probably since turning red, I guess.
00:59:06
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Um, which I, I also really enjoyed. Um, And i highly, highly recommend this to everyone. Like ah this, this is actually like a five out of five movie for me. Like if I were were to put a letterbox rating oh out there. Turning red beats Inside Out 2 for you?
00:59:22
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Yeah, definitely. Interesting. um I liked Inside Out 2. I just didn't love it. um I feel like compared to the first Inside Out, it it doesn't hold a candle to it. Okay.
00:59:33
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Where like the first Inside Out movie is a, you know, ah movie about, growing up and, and, you know, being a, you know, being a kid and just finding out who you are The second one is, is a little bit, it doesn't have as much impact. Like I, I bawled my eyes out in the first inside out and I didn't want to shed a tear in inside out too, you know?
00:59:54
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Yeah. the So, um but yeah, all in all, I think Hoppers is, is, is amazing, dude. Like I, I loved it. And I knew my wife absolutely loved it easily in my top three movies of the year.
01:00:06
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Um, just Just awesome. Just awesome. Like, actually, it's on Disney Plus now. If you have a Disney Plus subscription, well worth watching. Yeah, yeah. um A few other movies that I watched. Again, I'll be brief on this. We watched Now You Three Me, Now You Don't.
01:00:23
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The third Now You See Me movie. um It's fine. These movies are popcorn movies. They're just fun. They they are not just like magicians. They, they do actual magic, like straight up. It doesn't make sense. Some of the stuff they do in these movies does not make sense. You can't explain it. Even though they kind of try to, um but it was, it was fun. they They kind of introduced a new cast of characters and, you know, not necessarily out with the old in with the new, but like,
01:00:57
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in with the new, with the old. And, uh, it makes for some, you know, funny moments, some great characters, interactions. Um, there is kind of like a, um, there's a weird element to it where, like, like where like at the end of the movie happened, I'm like, okay. Like they explain, you know, how certain things played out, but it, it doesn't fully make sense in some ways. Like there's, feel not necessarily a plot hole, but it's,
01:01:26
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don't know. It's hard to talk about without really spoiling it, but so I won't really discuss it here, but yeah, there's, there's a very weird moment in the, in this movie that happens partway through that kind of just gets swept under the rug by the end and everyone's kind of cool with it. And it just doesn't, it doesn't click for me. It doesn't work.
Critiques of Recent Movies
01:01:44
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So, um but all in all, the, now you, now you see me movies, all three of them, they're fine. Yeah, they're fine. If you want to watch just like a basic popcorn movie.
01:01:55
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Yeah, cool. Two other movies. Again, I'll be really quick. I watched the Netflix original movie thrash. I watched this in my hotel room when I was in Tulsa, Oklahoma. um This is the again, Netflix original movie hurricanes coming in It's crawl. But what if instead of ah alligators, it was sharks?
01:02:14
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Right. you You remember that movie, Crawl, with Kaya Scodelario? Did you watch that? I didn't watch it, but yeah, I know of it. That movie's great. That movie's genuinely great. It takes itself seriously. It knows what it is, and it's and it's ah it's a romp. This movie does not know what it is. It starts off very serious, and then about 50% of the way through, maybe 75% of the way through, it just goes full camp, and it just does not work for me.
01:02:41
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Um, okay. I just feel like it's very tonally inconsistent. It's dumb as hell. And, um, interesting. Okay. Yeah. They just, I just don't think they know what they were going for because they, they try to make it very serious.
01:02:54
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They build these characters up. There's a pregnant lady. You know, there's, there's a woman that's dealing with anxiety. Um, there's a, ah a fam, like a family, these three kids that are being fostered by these two shitty parents.
01:03:10
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And then, um, It just gets wacky by the end. And there's two separate storylines that are going on independently of one another that I thought would eventually cross over. They don't. it's You're just watching two stories play out in this situation that have literally nothing to do with one another.
01:03:27
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So that was a little weird. And then I watched the Charlize Theron Taron Egerton movie, Apex. Nice. This movie was um fairly disappointing. It's a really cool idea with great actors that I think could have been a lot better if they paced things well.
01:03:51
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But the pacing is very off. They don't spend enough time on the things that they need to spend time on and take their time on all the unimportant stuff. And they are very...
01:04:06
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It's weird. they they They're very eager to, I guess, how can I word this in a way? They don't want there to be a climax in the movie.
01:04:19
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Oh. So there's a slow build, but that slow build has little to no payoff. And it just happens kind of... You know, at at certain points without any. Yeah, it was weird. It was almost like let's make a crazy action movie in the wilderness, but try to make it almost like an art house movie. And then it just didn't.
01:04:43
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It didn't succeed. um Yeah, I didn't really like it. I can't remember. I don't know if it is. actually do not know.
01:04:54
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Maybe before you talk about it. Um, but yeah, it's just, it's really like, i think the performances are awesome. I think again, cause it's really just Charlize Theron and Taron Egerton, most of the movie. And I think they're, they're really great in it. Um, and I think they have a pretty good chemistry,
01:05:11
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um because it's essentially Charlize Theron. She's in like the Australian Outback and she's being hunted by Taron Egerton and it kind of just plays out from there. 67% of Rotten Tomatoes for critics score 46% for popcorn meter. So the audience score okay so higher than Supergirl. You think that's true?
01:05:30
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Yeah. Supergirl is very fun. I will say this. We were very negative on it. Yeah. I think we talked only negative. It's weird. But for me, it is a three out of five. I think the first two thirds. I just love, again, the galaxy building kind of idea behind it. I love Alcock's performance. Even Lobo's interesting. But oh, one thing I forgot to say was Supergirl. don't know if i said this.
01:05:49
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i I think about it as like it's a simulation of a Supergirl movie. Like things happen in it. This thing happens and this thing happens, but it's not a story. That was my issue with it. as That's how I think of. I talked about this with James Bond, Quantum of Solace. It's a simulation of a James Bond movie, but it's not.
01:06:05
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you know what saying? so like ah It feels like, oh, yeah, these things happen in this movie. It's like a big sandbox. like they're They're doing things. like But I don't want to just see them do things. I want to see an actual payoff. there good like Like this Apex movie, you're saying it has no climax. It's like you're going to have to follow some kind of a structure in some way and like try to give us something at the end. And I just feel like it doesn't it doesn't give us it doesn't answer the question of what they're supposed to be doing yeah at the end of Supergirl. They told us a thesis, and they they didn't actually follow through. That's kind of the the thing for me for Supergirl. But that's what it's like a simulation of of a and maybe this is a simulation of an action movie with Apex.
01:06:43
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Yeah, it's all it's it's almost all rising action in a way. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I see. It never gets. And then they kind of skip the climax and go into what's the ah um falling action.
01:06:54
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Is it called falling action? Isn't it also? No. um Yeah, rising action, climax, falling action, re resolution. efficiently wow Okay.
01:07:08
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According to quick Google search. so Okay. So yeah, it's just rising action, then it just turns into falling action. There's no climax. um Yeah. um However, speaking of which, I mean, you just brought up quantum of solace.
01:07:23
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yeah i I brought it up ah in the past. I'm not a big 007 guy. I've only seen Casino Royale. I didn't like it. I'm not a big fan of James Bond as a character. um i just thought he was kind of i just kind of... I just thought he was mean. He's not likable, you know?
01:07:39
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But
TV Show Highlights and Reviews
01:07:40
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let me take a step back, Simon. I'm not a fan of that version of James Bond because I'm a huge fan of the James Bond in the 007 video game.
01:07:51
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that has just recently come out made by io interactive i'm playing it on the playstation 5 pro dude this game's fucking awesome you told me you're like you know if yeah i forget the exact wording you said you're like you know if there's like an adrian kind of game like this is that game basically and so yeah um yeah you're 100 right this is a me ass game dude this is a me ass game i'm loving it i'm about halfway through i think sweet Um, maybe a little bit more. It says like 50% on my PlayStation. Okay. Dude.
01:08:22
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Fucking romp. This game is awesome. Story. Amazing. James Bond, charming, likable, nice. He cares about people.
01:08:34
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He's just a sassy bitch sometimes, which I love, but like he, he, he's a nice guy. He's very likable. It's like playing a James Bond movie in the same way that Uncharted is like playing ah like a modern Indiana Jones movie yeah in some way.
01:08:48
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And it's very linear in that way. And it's very cinematic and like very, very well polished. and It just feels like a cinematic film. You're just playing through with a 16 hour film, 15 hour film or whatever. yeah But yeah, we're going to get to that because we're talking about James Bond a little later.
01:09:03
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So we can bring that up again if you want. Anyways, I rambled here. I talked about a lot of that I watched. There's just one more thing I want to talk. Actually, two things really quickly. I watched the season finale for the For All Mankind season two. And I got to say, this is like one of the best finales i've ever seen of anything.
01:09:19
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It is very, very, very good. It's obviously not a series finale. It's a season finale season two. I watched it before as well. And I remembered how epic it is. It is so epic and so awesome. It is one of the best examples of a great season finale to the point where I think they might have thought they were getting canceled.
01:09:34
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Because it's so good that I'm like, are you guys wrapping things up here because you're scared that you're not going to get a season three? And then, of course, they went on to get season three, four, and five. And five is is is already aired this year. So I'm looking forward to that. But I'll just say, From Mankind really, really great. And Apple TV just continues to kill it with excellent quality. They do not do...
01:09:54
Speaker
ah like like they just they all They go for the full nine yards or they just don't do it at all. They just they don't have any kind of... They don't do licensing. they don't license like They're one of the few streaming services that don't license from other places. You know what I'm saying? like Netflix is obviously... That's how they started. They're all doing this. They're licensing their stuff from Warner Brothers and it lands on Peacock. It's like, what?
01:10:15
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but but What are you doing? so like There's an element of like Apple's like, no, we make this. We are involved in this and we're going to make it and it's going to be good good quality. and It may not be... like Everyone's cup of tea for everything. Like not everyone loves C with Jason Momoa, speaking of Jason Momoa, but it's really good. One of the things that's really hit the hit the social medias by storm and is another big Apple TV hit, Adrian, is Widow's Bay.
01:10:39
Speaker
Widow's Bay, we started watching, we're six episodes in, is excellent. I said it would be up your alley to play 007 First Light, the 007 video game on PlayStation 5. So would this be? You will like this show quite a bit.
01:10:53
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I guarantee you. ah Matthew Reese kills it in it. It's really cool. he's Basically, he's a mayor of ah of a small town. ah small town tom His name is Tom. It's a small town. His name is Tom Loftus.
01:11:04
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ah And he's he's a mayor of this town, but he's kind of losing the reins on things because there's like ah this this place is like known to have like a haunted history. he just doesn't believe it. He's like, no, it's not haunted. And then and then there's like episode after episode, there's like these wack wacky shit just happens. um I think like I was interested in the show already. And then I saw it blowing up on social media. I'm like, I got to watch this because i'm worried it's going to get spoiled. And i feel like there's going to be a lot of like these little snippets on Instagram showing ah showing up So I was like, ah, let's just do it. That's what actually my wife said that. She's like, I'm worried. I'm going to get it. It's going to get spoiled for me because she's way, way more on social media than I am.
01:11:41
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And so that was a concern, but we're six episodes in and it's very good. Also, see Steven Root, everything Steven Root is in. He just he's a scene stealer, I think, personally. I think he's great. He's amazing in Barry as well.
01:11:52
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Matthew Reese is also a scene seller. That guy's like a chameleon. We we kind of talked about how how good he is in general a couple weeks ago, but i feel like there four weeks ago, but he he's really, really great in this. It's really, really good. It's a horror comedy, essentially, probably more horror than comedy. I don't know. Actually, no, it's even, but it's made by some of the parks and recreation people, like the people from parks and recreation. And then it's directed by like a horror director and various other directors. Funny enough, the episode we just watched was directed not by a horror director. was directed by Andrew DeYoung.
01:12:23
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you recognize that name? Yeah. Friendship director, which is yeah not a horror thing. Actually, it is. I think friendship is more of a horror movie than it is a comedy. So perfect. yeah Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:36
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Yeah. It's elevated horror. Friendship is elevated horror. Yeah. Wait, what is that term? It's like like what you call like um like her hereditary or like midsummer. Like it's it's not just like typical like slasher horror.
01:12:52
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like it's It's elevated horror. Yeah. They, they, they mentioned that in, uh, was it, I think scream five, like the, the scream five reboot at, um, like the requel where like Jenna Ortega, she's talking to ghost face on the phone. She's like, I actually prefer elevated horror or whatever. I don't know if she's the one that coined that term or, okay you know, if it came out, I think like Babadook, the Babadook is like, um, looked at as kind of like one of the first like elevated horror movies where like, yeah, like also stuff from Jordan Peele, I assume.
01:13:24
Speaker
Nope. Yeah. Get out. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I like elevated her. That's what I like. That is what I like. That's a, this would be, well, I guess this is elevated to her too. And widow's Bay. What is may also the, the way they do like their, the way it's shot is, is really quite beautiful in some way, but there's, there's an element of even just how they do their marketing for it and how they do their, like the, the titling there. They they've really, really realized this show. It's really cool.
01:13:50
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The way that Widow's Bay title like is just portrayed every every episode, it's it's really, really cool. they They really know what they're doing here. i It's legitimately really excellent. I'm glad it's getting a lot of fanfare. People are really liking it. It's good because Apple TV needs it because they're yeah're killing it every week, every freaking month. They have so many good things coming out, and people just don't give them the time of day. like What even is Apple TV? It's the best streaming service available. That's what Apple TV is. Okay? like What is even on I'll kill several. Yeah, shrinking. Ted Lasso silo. So good.
01:14:23
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For all mankind is one of my favorite shows. It is very, very good. um We monarch legacy of monsters. Oh, crazy. The budget on that is I can't even imagine. Did you finish that, by the way? Because I know I was going to ask you about that because i I forgot the trailer. Remember when we saw the trailer? Like, wait, how do they afford the budget on the seat? Yeah, because it seems I watched the first two episodes. I was watching that week to week.
01:14:46
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And it was one of the shows where i i was watching a lot of things week to week. And i was like, I got to drop something. So I dropped that and Daredevil because I was watching like, i don't know, a bunch of random shit. And then I was like, OK, cool. Then I went back to Daredevil, finished Daredevil. And then I haven't really been watching anything on my own.
01:15:03
Speaker
um like TV show wise, I'm kind of in a phase where I just can't sit and watch something, but I do plan to go back. Me and my wife, again, like me and my wife, we we watch a lot of things together and she hasn't really been in a huge like TV show mood. She wants more like simple, like,
01:15:18
Speaker
simple stuff that it comes off as rude, but like just easy watching. Yeah. Cause we were watching big mistakes, which I was really into and she kind of liked it as well. And then like, I think we watched the first like five or six episodes and then we like kind of took a break from that. Cause it is kind of anxiety inducing. She wasn't really in the mood.
01:15:35
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We were watching slow horses season four and she was like, I just, I'm not in the mood for this, but now I really want to watch slow horses because I'm playing double Oh seven. And just to have that sort of, Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. That synergy.
01:15:46
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Um, and I really want to watch widows, uh, Bay, but what we have watched, actually, I forgot about it. We we've been watching, it's a Hulu show. So it's on Disney plus called not suitable for work.
01:15:57
Speaker
And it's, um, It's just like your typical like sort of sitcom. It's Mindy Kaling, yeah? Yeah, it's Mindy Kaling created show. And it's pretty good. I like it enough. I don't love it. um It's just like you know these like three or five 20-something-year-olds. They live in like an apartment.
01:16:16
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you know three Three dudes live in the one apartment. And then across the hall, there's two girls um their age that live in an apartment. And like it's just about like – They're, they're working and like, you know, that they're, they're workaholics and like how their friendship kind of develops and everything. But my biggest gripe with the show is that every single plot line is kind of a love story in a way, or like a relationship story. Like, ah like, oh, this person has a crush on this person is hoping to get with this person. And like every, every subplot is a a romance thing. I see. And I think the biggest miss is that like, there's just not enough like character development. There's like a relationship story, like an, like a main character, i guess, relationship story between one of the girls and like, I guess like her boss or whatever. And it's like,
01:17:03
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her before the relationship even begins, like that character sucks. Like he's just kind of a piece of shit. Like he's just treats everyone poorly. And I'm like, what do you see in this person apart from them being like an attractive dude?
01:17:15
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And now like I don't know, we're on episode seven. i think we just finished episode seven yesterday. They just started kind of developing his character and making him a little bit three-dimensional. Like, okay. Yeah. It doesn't excuse how much of a piece of shit you are in the first, you know, six and a half episodes, but who am I?
01:17:30
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Who am I to judge? So for this show, you could maybe argue that he might be like the creme de la creme of 2D villains because he's kind of the villain of the show. cause he is he is kind of the villain of the show, but not really the villain. With a CR instead Yeah. Yeah, he is the creme de la creme of the 2D shitty bosses in this show.
01:17:52
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Right. But honestly, everyone kind of like it's funny, like all the older adult bosses kind of suck. They're all kind of pieces of shit. Except for one of them. it's just She's just kind of sassy. But she had to work hard for her position.
01:18:06
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Right. You know? Yeah. So you get it. You get it with her. I don't know. Gotcha. Pretty good, though. It's enjoyable. I'm very excited for adult season two, though. Like it's it's kind of akin to adults and adult season two airs in August. so Maybe I'll rewatch that soon.
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The last thing I'll say for Widow's Bay, I'm not a horror fan. So for those listening to this, you might think, oh, i'm not I don't like horror. This is a really fun show to watch. This is almost a popcorn show in a way. It
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feels like Lost, and and it almost feels like it meets Jurassic Park in some strange ways, and then it meets other horror. You can see kind of some of the trappings of some of the tropes but potentially in there, but...
01:18:43
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it It isn't that scary. It is elevated horror. It is a great description of it. It does feel like Lost. It's funny. Damon Lindelof tweeted about this show. like He really likes it. He put it on or whatever. He Instagrammed about it. Yeah, how much he likes this show too. Whenever he Instagrammed about something that's well written, I'm like, ooh, this might be very good because he's such a good writer for many things that enjoy watching like Watchmen and Lost and let The Leftovers. So it's a a good kind of a I was going to say, what's taste he's like a tastemaker for me, at least. yeah Usually when he says something's good, I'm like, it's probably going to be good.
01:19:23
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Okay. Should we move on now, Adrian? Are we done with what we've been watching? This is long segment. Jeez, that was like an hour and 10 minutes. Yeah. yeah Sorry about that. Let's move on now, Adrian, to...
01:19:36
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The montage, a sequence of our show in which I briefly present at least seven of the bi-week smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict. Number one. As reeled by director Matt Reeves on social media, production has begun on The Batman Part 2.
01:19:49
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Wow. Took them long enough. Why? Why did it take them so long? What the hell? It's been almost four years. It's been four years. We were going to get it five years later. What the heck, man? What the heck, Bat Reeves? What the heck?
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Number two, as announced by Apple, the Apple TV horror comedy series Widow's Bay has been renewed for a second season. Dude, someone literally just told me that show's pretty good. I just don't remember who. Number three, as announced by Warner Brothers, Furiosa actor Anya Taylor-Joy has joined the cast of the Lord of the Rings spinoff film The Hunt for Gollum and will play an elf named Saren.
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She joins a star-studded cast composed of Lee Pace, Andy Serkis, Ian McKellen, Elijah Wood, Kate Winslet, and Jamie Dornan. Amazing. Number four, as Deadline reports, Star Wars actor Mark Hamill has joined the cast for season three of the Peacock TV series adaptation of video game franchise Twisted Metal. Wow, that's cool.
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I didn't watch season two. Season one was pretty good though. Number five. Netflix comedy The Four Seasons has been renewed for a third season. Oh my goodness, I wonder if they're going to make it to season four. Number six.
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As reported by Variety, Harry Potter actors David Tennant and Jim Broadman, Bridgerton actor Nicola Coughlin, and IT Crowd actor Richard Ayoade have all been cast in the upcoming sixth season of Hulu comedy series Only Murders in the Building.
01:21:09
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nice it's it's it's i t crowd by the way i think it's isn't it it they're like the a crowd but they're not that was the kind i thought that was the idea of it oh maybe i always maybe not i know it's i t crowd because they're i t people they're i specialists in in in a company i know that but i thought like i was both i'm probably wrong i've only seen like five episodes we'll never know we'll never know we're never going to figure it out it's imp impossible could just look it up i guess You're probably right. There's literally no way to figure out the true the true answer to that. so I've always been saying it interchangeably. I just today chose the wrong one for Mr. Adrian here. Number seven. Production has begun on HBO's Emmy-winning medical drama, The Pit, season three. Yeah, I like the show. I don't know, man. It's it's it's it's it's absurd. Number eight, as reported by publication Variety, a sequel to the live action Christmas film, The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, is being developed by Grinch director Ron Howard and Grinch actor Jim Carrey. Wow.
01:22:06
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That's cool. That's crazy. Number nine. As publication, Entertainment Weekly has reported, Star Wars creator George Lucas will voice a character in the upcoming Minions and Monsters film.
01:22:17
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This marks the first acting role job that he has taken on since 2007. Lucas has been retired from the film industry since 2012. Nice man. Those billions are running out. He needs to make some money on the Minions and Monsters first, dude. Apparently he really loves the Minions franchise. Honestly, I can see that. Number 10.
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As Variety reports, Amazon has dropped out as distributor for Challengers director Luca Guadagnino's film about Sam Altman and Open AI, starring Spider-Man actor Andrew Garfield, despite Amazon's producing being a producer for Guadagnino's last two films.
01:22:51
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Coincidentally, Coincidentally, Amazon just signed a $50 million dollars AI deal with OpenAI i in February of this year. Oh wow, that is quite the coincidence.
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What are the chances? Number 11. Xbox Studios head Matt Booty has revealed to publication Entertainment Weekly that a film adaptation based upon the multiplayer pirate video game Sea of Thieves is in development and will be produced by Spider-Man Brand New Day director Destin Daniel Cretton. Sea of Thieves nuts fit in your fucking mouth.
01:23:22
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Oh, that's kind of clever. Number 12. Amazon has greenlit the sixth season of animated superhero TV series Invincible ahead of the 2027 release of season five. Wonderful. I can't wait.
01:23:34
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And that concludes the montage. um bump bo Oh my goodness. the old The old gums are feeling the pressure now. Let's dive into, Adrian, a trilogy of topical tidings, a component of our show where we discuss at least three film and TV industry news stories that have been somewhat zeitgeisty over the past two weeks. The first one, we can spend as much or as little time on any of these as as you want, but this one I found a little ridiculous because of kind of what we just talked about, but we'll get into it in a second. In an interview with Fox News Digital, The Office star Rainn Wilson has claimed that, quote, I do feel like you couldn't make The Office today. i think that that would be too hard to be as politically incorrect as the show was. I do kind of miss that, unquote.
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He also claimed that there haven't been, quote, any good comedies that have come out within the last 10 to 15 or 15 years, unquote. And he wishes that we could, quote, find a way to make good comedies again, unquote.
01:24:38
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Thoughts on that? Shut up. I hate this sentiment. I hate it so much. You can do whatever the fuck you want. We live in a time where it's arguably the least politically correct.
01:24:52
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Look at the fucking president of the United States. Are you fucking stupid, dude? Are you dumb? Again, I like Rainn Wilson enough, but this is just such a dumb ass statement and so wrong.
01:25:03
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There have been so many good comedies in the last few years. It's This whole political correctness shit, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist when the leader of the United States is the least politically correct person in the universe or one of it. You can get away with anything. There are people online shouting the N word, getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:25:26
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Like, what are you talking about? It's stupid. There's been so many good comedies. I just brought up an amazing comedy in adults that came out last year. Bottoms is one of the funniest movies of all time, like that I've ever seen.
01:25:38
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And that came out only a few years ago. There's so much good comedy. This is just such a dumb, your heads in the ground way of looking at things. Watch the office isn't even that politically incorrect.
01:25:51
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There's been more tv shows since that have been less politically correct. There's one that comes to mind, though, that's hilarious. That's still been on the air like for so long. And it's been it's one of the shows that's been on the air for the longest is always sitting in Philadelphia. It's crazy. That's weird. way more politically incorrect than The Office is, which is really funny because it's like, I don't, the Office is politically incorrect. Michael is but ridiculous, but it isn't always sunny in Philadelphia. I'm so sorry, Rain. I think you need to watch TV shows.
01:26:18
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like yeah that That was my instant thought process with this. yeah And the funny thing is, is that, Rainn Wilson, the paper exists, bro. They just made a spinoff for The Office. So they are making The Office again, which is that funny. I'm sure it's less politically, maybe a little bit like less ah plenty politically incorrect because it is on NBC. So they might be reigning it in a little bit. But um I don't know. I find it. I just I've heard this a lot that people are saying, like, there's not a a lot of there's not a lot good comedy. I've heard this many times. And that's really that what offended me more so because there's a lot of good ones. Like, there's a lot of good ones.
01:26:52
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What is Bay is not that much of a comedy. Now there is the bear. They're both really good. But I think there was maybe not the greatest examples, although they're, they're billed as comedies. But if you look at like Ted Lasso and shrinking and you just talked about um like um adults or whatever, and and there's like, there's lots of different,
01:27:09
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there's lots of different really great comedies on lots of different streaming services. The one thing I'll say is that comedies haven't really been working out in theaters very well um as much as they had before. But then again, really, I mean, i haven't watched it cause I'm not that ah much of a fan of the series, but they just made it and made another frigging scary movie, which is incredibly politically incorrect as a franchise. Typically I wonder how politically incorrect this new screen five is a screen five.
01:27:36
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ah Scream 5. Sorry. Scream. Scary Movie 5. It's Scary Movie 5, right? I think it's 6. Oh, it's 6. Oh, yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. scar Scary Movie 6 is. I don't know. I said Scream. I guess the Scream matt mask like. Yeah. Just jived in my brain because it's such a. I mean, like yeah. the The first Scary Movie is a parody of Scream.
01:27:55
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Yeah. So. But yeah, so I just find it silly. i I don't know. I just thought I would bring that up and just mention how many good comedy TV shows there are. Because there's a lot. Like you mentioned Bottoms, but that's a movie, to be fair. But it didn't make it to theaters, but it's great.
01:28:09
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So there's an element of like, it it it's they they're not maybe making it to theaters. But yeah. Anyway. yeah There's plenty. Again, I just find that this is such an outdated look on things.
01:28:21
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And again, like it's... The whole like it's it's too hard to be politically incorrect is so stupid. We live in like arguably the most politically incorrect time right now. Like it's, I just don't understand it. I literally cannot fathom. Just make it funny.
01:28:38
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That's the key. Make it funny. It can be politically incorrect, but incorrect, but make it funny. Maybe I wonder if this has come from the people who are like not very funny, but they think they're funny and they're saying yeah politically incorrect stuff in a way that's just not funny. It's just like, well, you're just not funny. It's not really as whether it's politically incorrect or not. I think that it may be what it's coming, coming from. it's like someone gets caught in the office, you know, you're like, It's a place where it's like not, as you say, thing I think that's really not safe for work environments. And then they're like, oh, you're you're being written up. It's like, oh, you can't make jokes anymore.
01:29:09
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It's like, I wonder if that's where it comes from is like the sentiment. It's funny because I say this also because Rainn Wilson was literally in an interview with Fox Business, which I think is also kind of funny. I feel like it's like know your audience. You know what I mean? Like it's Fox and his business. So I wonder if that may be why he he he's saying that to them. I wonder if he believes this like that fervently, but I mean, he said it out loud on the camera. Yeah. So it's stupid, dude.
01:29:36
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Again. Yeah. I don't know. I just hate, I i genuinely hate the sentiment. It's like the, yeah. Again, I feel like I talked about it like a few weeks ago with people being like, you you can't say anything anymore. Like even like a Bill Burr, like always talking about that sort of stuff. I got, I'm a big fan of Bill Burr's comedy, but it's like, dude, you literally can't, you're on stage.
01:29:55
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saying whatever the hell you want. You can do that. Watch the roast of Kevin Hart that just came out. They, they, they went very far in a lot of ways. Like you can say whatever you want. Nobody cares as long as it's funny. Yeah.
01:30:09
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It's okay. But then it's like people that just say retarded for fun, you know? And like, Oh yeah, this, this bitch is retarded or whatever. And like, Oh, it was just a joke. That's not funny. There's no punchline. There's no setup.
01:30:19
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You're just calling someone retarded or calling someone the N word or whatever else. Like it just, it, it, It's, it's simple. It's simple. Just jokes have setups and punchlines. If you don't have anything and it's like a, at the UFC um fight, like the freedom to 50, like someone, I forget one of the fighters, he like went on and like, was like, Michelle Obama is a man. Am I right? Or whatever.
01:30:43
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and then that' like people joke yeah and then And then people were like, like oh man, fuck this guy. Like what the hell? He's like, oh, it was just a joke. And then doing this half-assed apology. It's like, it wasn't a joke. You were just saying something.
01:30:55
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Right. That is incorrect. That's not, there's no, there's no setup. There's no punchline. You're just saying that this person is a man. That's not funny, dude. Yeah. It's dumb.
01:31:07
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It's dumb. it's It's so frustrating. Yeah. yeah I hate it. It actually pisses me the hell off. That's like one of my my my least favorite like sentiments. you can I haven't heard Bill Burr say that as much recently. about Maybe I just haven't watched his stand-ups as much. I like him a lot. It's funny. you like I just haven't seen him say that. I find it's weird that he says that because, to be honest, this is a sentiment that I imagine like bad comedians would say or like ones that aren't very good or unprofessional. Because the thing about comedy is, like as he should know, is I feel like it's just – there is an element of skill and they make it look easy, but they bomb.
01:31:41
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I'm sure like many jokes bomb as he's building up to make a Netflix special. That's just the way he builds a set. So I find it interesting. Like he believes that it's like, why do you believe it? Cause you are very free with the way you speak anyway. So like, I don't yeah think that that's really true.
01:31:55
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I haven't, I haven't heard him talk too much about that recently, but yeah I guess it wasn't that recently this I'm kind of referring to things he said like a few years back. So maybe he's changed his tune on it, but it's like, I don't know. but I remember he was saying a lot of that stuff before he did that, um that comedy show in Saudi Arabia as well. I'm like, dude, you literally can't say shit there.
01:32:14
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Like you're, you're, you're saying you can't say anything anymore. and then you're going to fucking Saudi Arabia and doing a festival. It's like, let's be real. Yeah. The thing that bothered me more about this story though, in in what Rainn Wilson said was, I really just find this to be a sentiment that a lot of people say who don't watch stuff. And I always find it annoying. Like there's no good movies now. We've talked about that before in our podcast. There's no good movies now. It's like, You're not watching them.
01:32:37
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Go to the theater and watch them because there's so many good movies and there's so many good ideas in movies. Like there are lots of ideas. You just you want to go You look at the the box office. you're like, oh, wow, it's just Avengers movie. It's just a superhero movie. It's like, no, it isn't.
01:32:52
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There are a lot of great ideas like to show up at the Cannes Film Festival or show up at like the Toronto Film Festival or definitely show up in theaters and make millions of dollars like obsession, which one like not one, but I guess a one. won millions of hard earned dollars from ah from from like worldwide at the box office. So there's lots of good ideas. And like you just not. And then I know that there's people saying this. I haven't seen this, but I know it.
01:33:18
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They're like, wow, obsession. See, that's just exactly what you've got to do. You've got to make original ideas. And then like there are always original ideas. You just not watching them. That's the problem. And that's the same sentiment with this comedy thing.
01:33:30
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Yeah, it's always too. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was gonna say I was listening to smart lists and like those guys were like trying they were kind of trying to say like there's not as many good comedies there but they were saying it in a very like mild way they weren't saying it there there was not that many but then they're like, well, there's some comedies that you guys like and then they could only list like one or something. i'm like, guys, there's so many good ones. Like that's so unfortunate because those guys are the, the smart list guys, two of them are from arrested development and the other ones from Hill and grace, which are notably very popular comedies. So it's like, I feel like it's disappointing to hear them say that. Cause it's like, you guys should maybe be in more comedies. I mean,
01:34:05
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ah You got Will Arnett doing like a really sad comedy ah in the movies and and Jason Bateman's kind of moved on to drama. So it's like, I mean, just because you're not in it it doesn't mean they don't exist because they do. it would be cool if they those three guys should be in a comedy together. That would be that would be great. Yeah, because there there are comedies out there.
01:34:23
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Make one maybe. Yeah. Like look at them because they're they're great. But anyway, sorry, I interrupted you. No worries. I technically interrupted you, man. But yeah, it always is frustrating, like, I guess, to take a quick step back to, like, the the obsession point where people, like, will point out that, like, yeah, this is what people should do. And it's like, this is probably the only movie you watched in the past, like, yeah year that's different. And you probably went because you saw it online. It's like...
01:34:47
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And I'm saying this obsession is my favorite movie of the year. Like one of my favorite movies of the past. I don't even know how many years. And I adored it. But again, like then you have these people that are like, this is exactly what the film industry needs. It's like, I mean, yeah, but it it already has it. You guys just aren't going out to see all the other stuff.
01:35:06
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And it's, I don't know. Again, yeah, it's the same thing. I mean, we hear about it because me and you are big nerds in the video game stuff as well. You hear it all the time. There's no good games anymore. Everything in the best games came out on the Xbox three 60. Yeah. You know, and it's like, these games are are just not as good anymore. I'm like, brother, I literally cannot keep up with the good games that are coming out.
01:35:28
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I'm like drowning in high quality games, like drowning September. It's going to be a nightmare. Dude. I, I'm, I'm actually annoyed. about how many good games are coming out in like a two month three month time frame it's ridiculous i have like seven games i want to play i'm simultaneously excited and annoyed at the same time i know i feel like gotta book time off work i'm not going to but i feel like i have to it's crazy dude yeah and then at the end of the year is gta 6 and that's the game that everyone's gonna play and they're gonna be like oh they should all games should be like less yeah which is really bad for the industry ultimately this is 1.5 billion dollars to make that game but
01:36:03
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Yeah, is something crazy. it It always just annoys me because it's like, what is it? 63% of people that play video games buy two or less video games a year.
01:36:14
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Like, brother, I buy bought two video games in like the first two weeks of January. Wasn't it full price games? Or no, was it? No, maybe it was in total. Yeah, it was like total two or less. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I buy way more than that. Yeah, dude. I straight up bought like two video games in the first week of January, january Which is, i like it's I mean, it's not necessarily a good thing. I'm spending a shit ton of money, but I'm playing them.
01:36:37
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. As long as you're playing them. Yeah. That's the key. But it's an industry we love. And honestly, it's funny about video games. like I feel like there's this idea that it's an expensive hobby, but I'm like, I don't know if it is. like You're not going out anywhere. you don't i think it's a really affordable hobby, although it is becoming more expensive for the hardware and in a deeper way that that yeah really I wish it wasn't happening with the prices of component pricing for ran hear about the Xbox stuff?
01:36:58
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Yeah, won $100 American. American. What? Yeah. Yeah, but that makes sense, though. I knew that was coming. I've been saying that for people are looking me like, oh, Xbox hasn't done that. They're looking at the PlayStation. But they have. They did it like three times up until point. They did in October last year.
01:37:14
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And then I was like, well, they haven't done it yet. like They did it before the component pricing, the memory pricing went up. like I think they're going to do it. like i i am I was like, I would bet money on that that they're going increase the price. And sure enough, of course, they are. It's not their fault. that like the The component pricing is crazy. We're in a bad time.
01:37:30
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ah like economically, but for for that specifically as well. And it's becoming less accessible, but I still think that it's still, I don't know, you try to build a PC, you know what mean? If you're comparing it, but you want the games industry to be accessible to everybody. It would be ideal for especially consoles to be more accessible. But anyway. Yeah.
01:37:48
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Yeah. But anyway, Rain, you're wrong. You're wrong, bro. Go watch comedy. There's lots of good ones. Go watch Widow's Bay, Rain. Not that comedy. not that Not that comedy centric, I guess. but Or Ted Lasso. or sure Shrinking is freaking awesome. Although it is kind of sad at times. It's really, really good. And Laugh-O-Funding, many times as well. There's lots of different types of comedies. Go watch Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Rain. That's the big one. So you don't yeah so you shut the hell up because that that that one's been running forever. and it's go watch Go watch The Chair Company.
01:38:17
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Go watch it. I think you should leave. Yeah, yeah. That's good one too. And the share company is awesome, dude. they're That's a very different comedy too. Yeah. That's almost a horror, but less so than Friendship because friendship. That's elevated horror. It's elevated horror.
01:38:30
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Yeah. Yeah, right. All right. Let's move to the next ah a topical tidying here. According to Deadline, the search for the next James Bond is well underway. The next round of auditions reportedly begins in August. And so i I brought this up so I could ask the question, any guesses who might star as the next 007? And you have anyone that you would want to star? as kind of a quick like little thoughts thought exercise.
01:38:57
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It has to be British, people? It does, yeah. That would be something that it would have to be. I think it could be. ah Yeah, I think it could be... I personally believe it should be male.
01:39:11
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the The actor should be a male actor. British dude. And British, I think, is never that would that would be immutable. I think they would never change that. Interestingly, they to traditionally always get ah generally get an English director to direct, like a Sam Mendes as an example.
01:39:27
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But Denis Villeneuve, of course, is directing the first double seven. So you might be in in on this because it's Denis Villeneuve who you like as a director. And they're starting this from scratch. So it could be a good way to get you in on the ground floor here because they're not like no continuing, obviously, with Daniel Craig. Because the question here is, which actor do you think should be cast in Daniel Villeneuve's first James Bond film?
01:39:48
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Interesting. That's tough, man. I don't know. they're looking at a few There's a few actors kind of on the shortlist, apparently. but they're They're looking at apparently under 20 actors are being considered for the role. Under 20 year olds?
01:40:02
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Under 20 candidates. A man. That makes sense. That makes more sense than like like under the age of 20. Um, yeah i don't know why I assume that. That was, that was dumb. I'm going honest with i don't know why I assume that.
01:40:15
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It's all good. Why don't I assume that? You know, who's an actor who, I certainly think that um,
01:40:24
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uh lenny james thinks should do it lenny james being uh an actor who's in 007 first light first light as greenway who i think he just does a phenomenal job in that he's so good dude he's so good in that game honestly everyone in that game is awesome yeah i think uh a lot of people think that it should be patrick gibson Who is the actor in 007 First Light. They think that he could do it. He does have blonde hair though. And I think, I wonder if they're going to go back to the roots of a black haired with a scar across the cheek, James Bond, because that is from the original Ian Fleming novels. And they just hadn't done, they never really did the scar at all.
01:41:01
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um but I wonder if they're going to go like accurate to exactly what it's written in the, in the, in the book kind of thing, or could they go do something like, again, having the people really wanted ad salliwood to do it for a long time, but it is double now. I think he's too old. i think they're going to do, do like ah a younger James Bond, but having a black actor play him is great too. I think that'd be awesome. i'm I'm good with that. I'm wondering though, they're going to maybe go to the, the, what the text says.
01:41:25
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um Yeah, just white dude. White, black hair, scar across his cheek. Yeah. You're going to make up that, but um having that them do that. Tom Hardy was on the short list for a long time. I think they're looking way younger.
01:41:38
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i don't think that's going to happen. But I think whoever it is will have to dye their hair. Patrick Gibson actually doesn't have black hair. He has black hair obviously in the game, but he's motion captured. and They would have to dye his hair potentially. do I think that that would be a good choice to make it really work.
01:41:51
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I would do – because Daniel Craig has blonde hair. That made no sense. That was controversial at the time yeah for some people. My brother was like, wait, what? How does that work? But then again, they never followed the scar on the cheek thing that I recall. I don't remember them doing it so um Yeah, so the the actor who comes to mind, Patrick Gibson, I think, did a really good job in the in the game. I think he's awesome. Yeah, he's amazing. The people who watched like played the game and the people watched him do the performance like in in like ah Lenny James, they really kind of agree. But I think another actor who I think...
01:42:23
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is probably on the shortlist is also really good and could do it. I think Aaron Taylor Johnson, I think I would believe it. That was, that was rumored for a while as well. Wasn't it? Yeah, it I don't know if going to happen now. Now, Calum Turner and, uh, uh, Jacob Lordy rumored interest. It's funny. I was actually going to bring up Cal, uh, Calum Turner, Calum Turner.
01:42:42
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Cause, um, he was good in, um, Oh my goodness. I'm forgetting the name of the movie. Eternity, which I really liked. Oh, you watched eternity. Oh yeah, I did. Yeah. Nice.
01:42:54
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Sweet. I forgot to bring that up. I watched it like a couple months back. It's on Apple TV. There's that rom-com that he's in like with, uh, what's her name? I know who you're talking about. That looks really like really like good. Like the way that they did the trailer, the very least, that's a really good trailer. That is a trailer I should have brought up in, in our,
01:43:11
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in our the trailer segment, because I thought that trailer was really, really solid. Yeah. um That's the wrong, the wrong column called one night or no. I can't remember.
01:43:22
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Yeah, something like that. It's like where sex is illegal except for one night of the year. Something like that. Wait, what? That's the premise of the movie.
01:43:32
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Sex is illegal. Yeah. That's the premise. Yeah. You can't have sex out of the trailer. Oh, I had no idea. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Okay. um Okay, I'm looking at British actors. then I'm trying to like kind of bring it up because like I have a few in mind.
01:43:49
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My number one pick, not British, Glenn Powell, obviously. But again, I'm hoping he's going to be cast as Batman in the DC universe. that's that That'd be 10 out of 10 casting.
01:44:00
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But if I'm going by British people, again, Callum Turner, I think that's that's a great one. I think might not be jacked enough, but I think someone that would be really great, who's very charming and likable, Joseph Quinn.
01:44:18
Speaker
I think he's ah he might be on that short list too. Oh, is he? Okay, cool. I don't know. i Yeah, he's what, early thirty s mid 30s? His name was weighted around a little bit, I think.
01:44:29
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Okay. I think before, work but not now. Maybe not now. I know Caelum Turner and Jacob Lorty. There was a claim in the article. What was I reading? Was a Deadline? Where it was claiming the type they're looking at as Jacob Lorty or Caelum Turner type. okay And they didn't mention alien to Aaron Taylor Johnson this time.
01:44:44
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So like, oh, maybe he's not in anymore. Same with Joseph Quinn, who I think was rumored like months ago. But they weren't really looking. Now they're really looking. Now they're yeah they're doing it. so eyes Heads down. Eyes up.
01:44:56
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Ready to go. That's how they're kind of doing it. Getting ready. Picking the people. Yeah, I think Joseph Quinn would be a good one. So you in for this when it comes out?
01:45:08
Speaker
Yeah, I'll watch it. It's Denny Villeneuve. And now I'm a 007 fan because of this one video game. See, that that completely worked. That was what was so weird about the frigging Amazon, like throwing their dick around like, oh, oh, we we're going to publish the next one.
01:45:21
Speaker
ah we're We're going to be involved in the next. but Like they were like, like the Amazon executives were like, like because they bought MGM, bought Indiana Jones. What am I talking about? They bought the James Bond franchise. They bought MGM. Amazon bought MGM.
01:45:37
Speaker
and then ah And now they have full control of it. But IO Interactive, who made First Light, wasn't making... they were they They made the game before MGM was purchased by Amazon. They were making the game before. And so they self-published and it looks like Amazon really wants a piece of the like a full piece of the action. They want to publish it.
01:45:53
Speaker
But it made it look like they' were going to hire someone else to make the next game, which is bizarre because that game is sold like hotcakes. And it literally is reviewed incredibly well. And everyone who's played it that I've talked to has loved it, including my own experience with it. I've loved it as well.
01:46:07
Speaker
So I'm like, are you really like doing this big dick energy type situation with like this game and your your partner? It shouldn't you be like these guys are amazing. We're going to keep them forever. I don't This bizarre. So I'm curious to see what happens. I hope there's a sequel because I feel like.
01:46:21
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Definitely a sequel would would really hit hard, especially just that's the games industry in general. They they make a first game and they're kind of like getting their sea legs and then they they take the ideas that they had and they like amplify them. We talked about that before with Uncharted.
01:46:36
Speaker
Yeah. um and and And many other things. Like there's so many examples of like the first games. It's pretty good. It's really good. but It's like, what can you do? What can you do to expand on that? Anyway.
01:46:46
Speaker
Kingdom Hearts 1 to 2. tatoo Yeah, that's a good example. Think about that. Yeah. if Cool, man. All right. Anything else you want to note about this? Um, other you still want me to list any other actors here? Oh, sure. do you have any more ideas?
01:47:01
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I have one other one. OK, if we're looking young.
01:47:07
Speaker
The guy from Warfare, Kit Connor. He, oh, that's on the short list. think that his name was the other, the third name. Sorry. Kit Connor was, I believe the other name. There's three names. I couldn't remember the third one warfare. Yeah.
01:47:20
Speaker
Interesting. Yeah. He could be, could do it. And you know what, if we're looking at warfare actors, let's just throw Will Poulter into the fucking mix. Why the hell not? I like Will Poulter.
01:47:30
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. and think they're all British people. They're all going for the white guy, though. It's seeming like from the from the template. Yeah, they're not going to do the I guess it's fine. i don't know.
01:47:41
Speaker
I just got I like the Idris Elba idea. That guy's really suave in real life. I feel like he would have really pulled it off. But again, he's old. If you're if you're going to go for non white actor, who would you pick?
01:47:54
Speaker
Trying to think about ones that like I have to take a look at the British acting. The first one that came to mind was Washington.
01:48:05
Speaker
for Oh, um John David Washington. washington Sorry? John David Washington? John David is not his name. Is it not John David Washington? No. What is it then?
01:48:16
Speaker
It is something John, though, isn't it? John something Washington. You almost had it. Is it John David? No, there's no way. But now it's like, again, you got that in my name in my head. Now I can't think. Oh, it is John David. You're 100% right.
01:48:31
Speaker
Okay. I haven't seen that guy in anything recently. I just haven't seen him around. But he's ah he' American, obviously, so that doesn't work. um But yeah I don't know. who Who would do would do it?
01:48:43
Speaker
i know I know who I would pick. Who? if it will If it wasn't a white dude. Okay. I'd pick Dev Patel from from Skins. back in the day that's a great but also green knight that's a great choice i really like dev patel that's a great choice dav patel yeah yeah it would be cool like i don't know if they're looking for a type like it would be cool if there was ah just a large pool and they were just like again maybe just do black hair scar on the cheek and not care about the like color of the skin type situation i'm i'm more cool with that i feel like that would make that almost makes more sense
01:49:19
Speaker
Yeah. It's gone the cheek, though, I think is crucial. I love that they did that in 007 First Light. Like they did. And they show you how he gets it. in the Yeah. Beginning. I think'm like, that's awesome. It's like they don't they don't do it. They just didn't do it. And I don't again, I'm i'm not a 007 historian, so I don't know. Maybe they did it in one of the iterations of it. There's been so many different actors, but I don't recall them doing that. I didn't even know that was a thing.
01:49:40
Speaker
Like I'm I'm so like, I don't know anything really about 007. They took it seriously too, because again, they made his hair black when that actor, Patrick Gibson, has got blonde hair. So I think that that's also really interesting. Like they, they took that seriously. They're not like, no, we're not, we're not just making you, yeah he looks exactly like him in every every other way. Except he's got a scar and he's got the, it's easier to do it a scar on the cheek in a video game, I guess. Yeah, what a great game, dude.
01:50:04
Speaker
What a great game. I love it. Yeah, it's good. You're right. It's really good. You're right. I'm halfway through it. All right. ah Okay, let's move on now to the third story. If I can find my document somewhere somewhere here on my number of tabs. um So the third thing, the third of the topical tidings, um again, we'll spend as long as ah as ah on this as as you want. But according to Deadline, despite a very high Rotten Tomatoes score and relatively high viewership,
01:50:31
Speaker
Netflix's science fiction mystery show The Burroughs, which is executive produced by the Dover Brothers, has been canceled after its first season. This is very interesting to me personally. I actually, this was the story here that I was most interested in talking about. um The reason why I'm interested in this because is because of what I said at the start. Despite a very high, meaning 97% of Rotten Tomatoes score last I checked, which is ridiculous.
01:50:55
Speaker
Whoa. And very high viewership. I got the numbers here. I can't even believe this. It makes no sense. As reported by online publication TV line, the show had great viewership. They were number two in watch minutes ah the week that they they they aired the first few episodes.
01:51:11
Speaker
ah no ah No, it's all at once. So the the week that the show launched all at once. um With 1.2 billion watch minutes. Okay. Mm-hmm. In their first week on the air, that was the first week on the war air. And they were number one with 1.75, I 1.74 billion in the week following the May 25th to 31st. Okay. So they were actually number one. They went up, which is interesting. I thought they went down and I thought it was part of the story, but the Nielsen ratings is kind of a, got a lag. Like they don't put the numbers out right away. So it takes some time to collect them all.
01:51:45
Speaker
So I think people thought they may have dropped, but it appears they did not. Uh, They reportedly also... No, yeah. So I had reportedly here that they there was a subsequent well week drop-off, but it looks like that's not even true because of the numbers that kind of came out yesterday or the day before, like ah Thursday from the the day we're recording this on the Friday before episode airs next week. um But the Hollywood Reporter wrote as well, quote, in his first four days, the Bros was second place on Netflix's top 10 English language TV chart with 5.6 million views. That's different than Watchmen. It's, of course... and and it's for And in its first full week, it jumped to number one with 9.5 million views. The following week, it was fourth. They claimed that the views dropped off the following week. It's a different kind of metric.
01:52:33
Speaker
It's interesting. um But anyway... Here's the thing about this, which is weird. And so why would you cancel a show that was arguably doing quite well? The show was expensive to produce. It cost $10 million, dollars apparently, reportedly per episode. It's got a pretty good cast.
01:52:48
Speaker
The Burroughs, of course, is a science fiction show. Maybe the Defer Brothers, the Defer Brothers who made Stranger Things. It's a science fiction show, takes place in a retirement community. These people are living there and there's some weird hijinks that happens and there's monsters, etc. So they're like dealing with that and critics love it. It's 97%. So obviously it's a really cool idea that people like, I was just going to give ah this, this little stat house of the dragon season two, first two episodes on HBO apparently generated 1.2 billion watch minutes.
01:53:16
Speaker
I found one that was very similar. So the same idea. They didn't cancel house the dragon after season two though. Right. So that's according to variety. That's where I sourced that from. And guess how much house to the dragon cost per episode. Adrian.
01:53:29
Speaker
More than $10 million. I'm going to say $25 million. $20 million. $20 million dollars per episode. So they're sure there so the the question, I guess, is why? And the Hollywood Reporter, like I think his name is tonyio mag Tony Maglio. He had some ideas for why. Can you guess why they might have canceled this before I tell you what Tony Maglio's thoughts are? My guess is since this was produced by the Duffer Brothers, Duffer Brothers have left Netflix. They're now moving to Paramount. Maybe a little bit of Bad Blood.
01:53:57
Speaker
That's my only assumption. That's what I think it is, because and that's what Tony Maglo thought, because it doesn't make any sense otherwise. He said, quote, but the quiet part out loud here is that the Duffer Brothers ditching Netflix for a four-year deal at Paramount seems to have rubbed high-ranking Netflix executives the wrong way. The first source told, ah he's saying the first source told The Hollywood Reporter, the relationship there what has been, quote, tough, unquote.
01:54:21
Speaker
um Since Matt and Ross embarrassed, quote, quote, unquote, embarrassed the streamer by leaving, the source said, a source close to Netflix denied the accuracy of that characterization and says this was simply a business decision.
01:54:36
Speaker
And I can't imagine that's true. The argument was that it was expensive to make and the viewership wasn't what they expected. It seems to be what that's the case. that That was the case. Also, the executive team that greenlit the burrows initially at Netflix, they moved to MGM and Amazon.
01:54:50
Speaker
So they don't work there either. The thing about the Duffer Brothers involved in this is that this is the Duffer Brothers produced show, but they're not even the showrunner. They don't show on this show. So it's like, are you seriously like you're canceling this? All the people are now out of work. The actors are going to be fine, I'm sure. But like the all the crew and cast of the show, this is 97% of on Rotten Tomatoes. Are you that petty?
01:55:12
Speaker
I don't know. Netflix. Lately, they just seem like they're losing. I don't know what it is. like They're just like petty little bitches. That's what I get as an impression.
01:55:22
Speaker
i don't i I don't even have enough subscription right now because there's no shows that I'm that keen on watching except, funny enough, the keyna the show I was looking forward to watching is The Burroughs. Now I'm not going to watch it. but i'm not going to i was actually going to subscribe for The Burroughs.
01:55:38
Speaker
like and They canceled the quality thing I was looking for. They'd rather make reality TV shows, I guess. I don't know. They're in a really weird company because they also also almost make, i think, double the content versus all of their other competitors. They make so much content. I was looking at like a a stats chart. It was like outrageous how much content they make on a consistent basis.
01:56:01
Speaker
But I just find it so bizarre. They they also cancel the most shows per... but on a gross perspective, like how many they cancel, but they don't cancel the most on a percentage of how many shows they make. So that's not the case.
01:56:13
Speaker
So that's an interesting thing. we We said that before that we thought that they canceled the most because it feels like that. They do cancel the most, but that doesn't mean anything because they make the most shows like that. They make almost like double the shows and then they canceled the most shows too. So that, that doesn't really matter, but Disney, ah sorry, Netflix is so expensive.
01:56:31
Speaker
And they're not tied into making only quality. They have like this large like repertoire that they're constantly making. And that's why I think Netflix is just not at all near the top of what I like for streaming services. But they have by far the most subscribers.
01:56:45
Speaker
So it's such a funny thing. And everyone, it' all Netflix is almost like Kleenex. And my question is, should it be? You know mean? Like Kleenex is the facial tissues. Like everyone looks at it and like, oh, Netflix, the streaming service everyone has. like, nope, not me.
01:56:57
Speaker
I have every other streaming service almost right now. except for Netflix. I have Disney plus right now. I have Apple TV plus I have Amazon. I have crave, but I don't have crave as our HBO max, I guess in Canada.
01:57:09
Speaker
Um, anyway, that's my, that's my thought. know if you have any thoughts on that. I kind of gave you a little diatribe. I thought it was hilarious that they would do that, that they would cancel this, but,
01:57:19
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a shame. I didn't watch it. I didn't really have much interest in watching it. I yeah i honestly, i i remember you mentioning this show came up, but I didn't know that it was this well-reviewed. I feel like if I knew that, maybe I would have given it a shot. don't know if it would have mattered.
01:57:34
Speaker
Yeah, at this point. Who knows? Maybe you and i maybe the two extra viewership hours could have changed everything, man. Maybe it could have been us. But yeah, Netflix is interesting because i'm I'm looking at Netflix original stuff that I'm like excited about.
01:57:52
Speaker
And, you know, I like One Piece, the live action One Piece. I finished season two of that. um Really good stuff. Is there anything else that I'm thinking of? I still got to watch Beef season season two And again, I was watching Big Mistakes. But apart from that, I mean, there ain't much going on here.
01:58:10
Speaker
They do their content, though. That's their issue. They have so much shit in there. Like, I don't know. Like, that's why I love Apple so much. Like, I think Apple TV, they're not making that many shows, but every one is a banger on us. It's crazy. Yeah.
01:58:23
Speaker
They're killing it from, again, your friends and neighbors to Widows Bay. to like, again, for all mankind to the the spinoff for from mankind in in the. um Yeah. Oh, my God. What am I thinking?
01:58:35
Speaker
Oh, Star City. Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. Interesting. Yeah, it's it's interesting. What is it is like right at the top right now um of of Apple's like streaming rankings, but I'm sure that's like nothing. It's like a fraction compared to what Netflix is getting. It's like, God. Yeah.
01:58:50
Speaker
Not to like tout Apple as like this company that you want to support a lot because it's like another like, what is it? Three trillion dollar company. Like they're just a huge corporation, but I'm just saying they're doing the right things in my opinion. And they also don't cancel very many shows. They're kind of there.
01:59:05
Speaker
That chart actually, i don't know if I should send it to you so you see it because it's kind of a cool little chart here. It's actually from 2023 to 2025. So I found like ah a recent, see if I can drop it into this chat so you can click it if you have a sec. But yeah,
01:59:20
Speaker
It's kind of a cool like little chart. There's like two graphs in there that show the cancellation rates. And I think that that's really kind of interesting. Like Apple canceled a lot in 2023. I think though everyone was canceling a lot in 2023. It was a big problem, Paramount being the worst one. But then they took like, they just kind of not been canceling just generally because we look there was a chart from variety Variety reported. It might have been from the same like analytics company. They were saying that like Apple had canceled the lease from 2020 onward to 2023. But then they, shockingly, like they're one of the highest.
01:59:51
Speaker
And then they take, they stopped doing that in 2024 and 2025. Interesting. But I find that they don't cancel a lot just in general. They also don't have a lot of shows. They just don't make as many.
02:00:03
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yeah But 2023 was a big year for them to cancel for cancellations. Disney Plus is also really not one to cancel too many shows recently either. 2023, again, big year for cancellations. I think it's like a post-COVID issue.
02:00:17
Speaker
they're like all They're all correcting in 2023, and that's why it looks... If you look at this chart, it's crazy. Disney Plus canceled 15 shows in 2023. Apple TV Plus closed ah shut down 23. Netflix shut down 55. But again, not fair to Netflix to say they shut down the most because again... for us per capita whatever you would call it.
02:00:36
Speaker
Yeah. They shut down. They actually shut down the least almost in 2023. But yeah, this is a crazy thing. This just seems like petty.
02:00:47
Speaker
This seems so petty and I was kind of excited for it. I'm looking at, I typed in the bros again just to see what it was at. Yeah. It's 96. Oh, with 80% audience score. That's crazy, dude.
02:00:58
Speaker
That's so high. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah, I was excited. i was I was going to watch it. There's the one thing I was going to watch because I thought the cast was really solid and I like the Duffer Brothers and what they've done. So whatever they're, they're not making it, but they're producing it. So um anyway, yeah, so it's wacky, wacky stuff here. I wonder if it will get picked up, but it is $10 million dollars per episode. It's bit of an investment. This is something that I feel like what Paramount that picks it up, you know?
02:01:26
Speaker
Yeah, it makes me wonder though, like, Again, I didn't really know much about the show. How are you spending $10 million? dollars i Like, just people at a retirement home. Like, what's going on show? it's visual effects, right?
02:01:38
Speaker
Okay. How much does Stranger Things cost? That's the question. I don't know, but Stranger Things went, like, full balls to the walls, like, CGI and stuff. Yeah, they probably did the same thing here that just, like, went hard. Yeah. Like, was the first season of Stranger Things high budget? I feel like probably not as much. No, they didn't know it was going to be a hit.
02:01:56
Speaker
Yeah. They're always easing into it, but they knew this would potentially be a hit because they... Whoa, the fifth and final season Stranger Things, the budget is estimated to be 50 million to 60 million per episode. Dude, there are huge episodes. To be fair, each episode was over like an hour plus. Yeah, like they were movie length. So yeah, true that.
02:02:13
Speaker
But again, that's still not that fair. It's still so much money. That's crazy. That's a crazy price. I'm sure they were paying Millie Bob Brown even more. Bobbert. Yeah. The thing you're doing now, I just I just made it up right now.
02:02:27
Speaker
Okay, cool. Millie Robert Brown. Because Bobby is a short form for Robert. Maybe. Obviously. Anyways. All right. Cool.
02:02:38
Speaker
All right, Adrian.
Upcoming Releases and Anticipations
02:02:39
Speaker
Now into a segment of our show that I like to call a look to the future portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between the dates of June 30th and June and July 2026. Adrian, as is customary, you go first.
02:02:57
Speaker
What is your first picture? Yeah, my first pick is Evil Dead Burn. It's coming out on July 10th, dude. Evil Dead Burn, July 10th. The next movie in the Evil Dead franchise. This one looks crazy. It looks bloody. It looks gory. It looks spooky. It looks good.
02:03:15
Speaker
Cool. That's great. Yeah. All right. My first pick here is a... Oh, a little show also on Apple TV plus. It's like I work there. Silo season three premiere as July 3rd.
02:03:30
Speaker
um i really love Silo. It's another show that I deeply recommend for anyone who likes science fiction stuff. It's a pretty unique concept. It's based on a book though. um It's not unique in that ah it is based on a book, but I mean, it's unique yeah as an idea from the book itself. um But yeah, it's really, really good. I really like the show. stars Rebecca Ferguson in the starring role.
02:03:52
Speaker
And yeah, that's season three premiere, July 3rd. Nice. Nice. Seems good, man. Seems good. um Honestly, not much else I'm excited about. So I'll just list off another thing that is coming out.
02:04:05
Speaker
July 10th, again, live action Moana movie. Oh, yeah. i don't I don't think this looks particularly good. I feel like it looks like an insurance commercial. There's something about it. I disagree.
02:04:15
Speaker
this um This is one thing I don't understand. You really don't like the way it looks. i'm like i And I mean, your credit. A lot of people online don't like it. So it's like, I guess I'm in the minority. i'm like, I think it looks fine. What are you going to do with' a It's a Moana live action film. It's got a freaking weird chicken in it. It runs around. It's mentally. Yeah.
02:04:37
Speaker
Mentally enough chicken. Maybe. But I personally think that The Rock looks fine in it. That's the controversial part. I think people think. With his like bodysuit or whatever?
02:04:48
Speaker
i think they're great. I don't know. I don't necessarily know that's a problem. Yeah, I just feel like it just looks weird. That's the problem that most people say, right? His hair looks ridiculous. It's like, no, it doesn't. It looks fine to me.
02:04:59
Speaker
What do you expect to see here? I think they did a great job with what they with what they're trying to do. I think that they've they've accomplished their goal. I don't know. I don't know. Tomatou going to look like? It's not my audience. I'm not, sorry, I'm not the audience for this. In other words, they're not playing to me. Yeah, honestly, I'm just so sick of, this live action I'm just so sick of these live action movies. All they're doing is remaking movies. They're not doing anything else, man. What the hell? Yeah, the only, yeah, it's all Disney makes. They just make live action remakes of things.
02:05:24
Speaker
They don't make anything else. Exactly. Yeah. It's a terrible time to watch movies, you know, in 2026. Yeah, nothing original. OK, the other thing that's coming out, Adrian, is a there's a TV show called don't know you saw this. It's called the Westies.
02:05:43
Speaker
It stars J.K. Simmons in this like 1980s Irish mob show. Kind of interesting. It's on MGM+, plus which I'm confused about because MGM+, plus is like, is it just another excuse for Amazon to make money? Like Amazon Prime is too inexpensive. So now we're going to separate things into m MGM+. plus I don't really get what their play is here. I'm not a big fan of this because I tried to watch some. I was going to watch No Time to Die, like the last Daniel Craig James Bond movie, because I think it's the only one I hadn't seen from his his catalog of of James Bond films. Mm-hmm.
02:06:11
Speaker
I'm going to go watch it. And they don't have the James Bond movies on Amazon Prime video. It's like, you guys own James Bond. like And I looked at it and like, where do i so where can I watch it? And it's like, MGM Plus.
02:06:22
Speaker
like Are you serious? It's on Crave though. um So I could watch it on there. I learned later that it was on c Crave. But I'm like, why why are you gating this behind MGM? I don't really understand. I'm kind of disappointed in that. That was the one advantage of them buying that. Because MGM is not that huge, MGM Studios.
02:06:40
Speaker
So I'm okay with them buying this studio and then putting it on Amazon Prime. But the problem is, that again, the price increases. I'm not okay with them buying it. I'd rather they didn't buy it. I don't want any of these companies to get consolidated because this is worse for consumers. Yeah.
02:06:54
Speaker
um But they already did it. So I'm like, well, least I'm going to get this on Amazon Prime. And they did not do that. And they have some names. They had that James Bond reality show. Remember that? Like hosted by Brian Cox. And they put it on Amazon Prime.
02:07:06
Speaker
It's like, that was on amazon Amazon Prime. And now you're making MGM Plus. You're putting the actual James Bond movies on him. Come on. Come on, Jeff. Get real. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Jeffrey Bezos. Get real, bro.
02:07:19
Speaker
Okay. Anyway, what's your next pick? um This is a movie that I'm actually excited about. I kind of forgot about it. And then i just it just popped up into my head because I was like, wait, isn't this movie coming out? And it is. It is the a twenty four Olivia Wilde directed movie.
02:07:35
Speaker
The Invite starring herself, yeah Seth Rogen, Penelope Cruz, Edward Norton. It's rated incredibly well. Yeah. On the Rotten Tomatoes.
02:07:46
Speaker
Sweet. It looks good. That's coming out July 3rd. But will it be able to rival ah this movie starring George Lucas? Minions and Monsters, Adrian, comes out July 1st.
02:07:57
Speaker
Impossible. Yeah. July 1st. I've never been a Minions fan. I didn't watch Despicable Me. I did not watch any of the Minions movies. I should probably watch Despicable Me. Despicable Me was good from what I remember.
02:08:11
Speaker
i like it That's the only one I watched. And then they're like, let's make an entire franchise with the guys that don't say anything. All they say is banana. Right. It's like I love it.
02:08:22
Speaker
People love it. It's like it's like if it's like if they did like a Like a Star Wars, just Ewok show. Hmm. I got an Ewok special and all it is. that just e e walklk Lucas wanted to do before he sold the the rights to Disney.
02:08:37
Speaker
Maybe because he's in this. He loves minions. Apparently he loves minions.
02:08:43
Speaker
Yes. Good stuff. All right. Your pick. I mean, those are the three that. Oh, you know. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I'm going to just rattle off some some things that are coming out then. Yeah.
02:08:56
Speaker
Well, there is one on here that is actually really good. I don't know. how I missed this one. um X-Men 97. That one X-Men 97. Apparently people really love the second season. I meant to watch the first season. Second season premiere. It's on July 1st. Disney. Yeah. Which is pretty cool that i I'm going to probably try to get around to watching that eventually.
02:09:14
Speaker
um I started watching The Boys. i didn't say that. Oh, season five? I'll leave my verdict for next episode. Yeah, I'm curious what you think about that. I'm very curious. Yeah, um so we'll get there. But I don't know why I brought that up.
02:09:28
Speaker
and oh Oh, because I don't have time. Because I usually watch most things with my wife. And so that's what I have alone. and watch I'm playing Starfield or some other game. Like 007, First Light. But the other things to rattle off here. Elle, there's a... It's a Legally Blonde TV show, right? Spinoff, yeah. It comes out July 1st. That is a late James Van Der Beek in it as well.
02:09:50
Speaker
It's an Amazon Prime. Wait, it really? He's in that? Yep. Oh, they really held it back then, I guess, for a while. Yeah. Interesting. Passed away earlier this year, if I recall correctly, like back in January, unfortunately.
02:10:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's sad. um But yeah, that comes out July 1st. Enola Holmes 3. That's also July 1st. July 1st as well. Yeah. So Canada Day. Awesome. Then we got... That's it. That's all i got. Yeah. That's it.
02:10:19
Speaker
Cool. Cool. I'm sure there's other things, but I thought there were... those you know, deserve to mention potentially the things that people would be interested in. I'm not interested in any of those except like deeply except for silo.
02:10:31
Speaker
I think silo is the one that I will definitely watch on there and the other stuff I might watch some of the stuff like, I don't know, meanings and monsters. Maybe one day in my life. I don't know. We'll see.
02:10:43
Speaker
Uh, okay. Well, that's that now on to Adrian, our final segment of our show, a segment of, where we each present our favorite trailer of the bi-week, the segment known as The Trailer, the caboose of our episode.
02:10:59
Speaker
Adrian, what is your favorite trailer of this bi-week episode? The caboose is loose. You know? Yes. The caboose is loose.
02:11:13
Speaker
um My favorite trailer, Simon. and i mean, I can't really think of too many trailers that I watched. i know there was a bit, like there's a few that came out that I just don't want to watch. Okay. The one that I did watch is a movie trailer. It's a trailer for the movie called Clara and the Sun. It's Taika Waititi's next movie starring Jenna Ortega.
02:11:33
Speaker
Yeah. She's a little robot. helping out a family heal themselves or whatever. Um, it seems pretty good. Again, i feel like, uh, feel like tech of what TD kind of needs a hit. Cause I know his soccer movie that came out. I think you liked it. I didn't watch it. It wasn't reviewed particularly well.
02:11:50
Speaker
And then his, um, I mean, Thor love and thunder was a, was a total miss for me personally. So I'm hoping he can kind of find his stride again with Claire and the son. It looks heartfelt.
02:12:01
Speaker
Amy Adams is also in this. Um, Looking pretty good. I'm not against it. i'm not I'm not against this movie whatsoever. It's based on a book by kazoo kaz Kazuo Ishiguro.
02:12:16
Speaker
Ishiguro. gururo Yeah, it looks pretty cool. Yeah, it's interesting enough. reallying By chance, did you watch the trailer for Spider-Man Brand New Day? It's not my pick, but I'm just curious.
02:12:30
Speaker
Was that this bi-week? The final trailer, yeah. Sure. Did I? I don't know. Okay. Did I? Spider-Man. Did you?
02:12:42
Speaker
Brand new day. I did watch it. I did watch it. Did you like it? I thought it was okay. I don't think I loved it. I preferred the first trailer. Yeah, me too. Yeah.
02:12:53
Speaker
But yeah, that's why i don't like it. guess, yeah, I don't really remember it that well. So I guess that says something about it. Okay. i was I'm excited for the movie, though. I was wondering because you picked Clara. So if you really like that trailer, I give you a ah choice. But you didn't remember you saw it. so um the The trailer that I'm going to pick here is ah is one we just saw yesterday. I saw for the second time, though, because I watched it the day before, I believe.
02:13:18
Speaker
And it is not yesterday. Sorry. The trailer we saw in theaters um two days ago for Supergirl. The thing about this trailer is that it's just... It's just... the It's a bit too much for a lot of people. Every time I've seen people watch it or like looked at the comment sections, people don't seem to be a big fan of it. People seem to be confused in the movie theater. But it's the the trailer for Digger, the the Tom Cruise starring film, which is like a Tom Cruise retrospective trailer.
02:13:47
Speaker
I just thought it was epic. I thought it was awesome. And the thing about Tom Cruise that's interesting to me is that Tom Cruise is like... There's not that many movie stars, you know, with like the capital M, capital S, like movie stars, you know?
02:14:01
Speaker
and I think Tom Cruise is deeply one of those people that is deeply a movie star. Like he he like he carries weight behind his name. And ah yeah, I feel like it's proof by the fact that he like people think that is a joke, but it's like he saved the film industry after COVID, you know, with Top Gun Maverick and all that stuff. So I think there's like an element of of like he cares a lot and like he he cares like he he seems to like um have a lot of gravitas when he enters a room or he enters ah an interview. And he's like very much again, a movie star.
02:14:32
Speaker
So I thought that was a really interesting trailer, but it's a bit too much on the Tom Cruise aspect for a lot of people. I just thought it was epic. And I am really excited to see what this movie will be. Cause they barely, yeah. The interesting Yeah.
02:14:43
Speaker
Like ah for this trailer. Cause I like this trailer as well. It's cool, but it's like, I have no idea what this movie is. like I was confused. i was like, Oh, they're making a documentary about Tom Cruise's career. And then all of a sudden it's like, no, this is a crazy comedy movie starring Tom Cruise. I was like, what? Like yeah I was, I was shocked when I saw it. I was very like confused. Yeah.
02:15:02
Speaker
um Well, you know what it is because we talked about it, right? Or you didn't remember? i didn't remember. Oh, okay. Yeah. ah You brought this up every time I say the word digger, you tried to catch me in a a racist slur.
02:15:15
Speaker
So I'm surprised you don't remember it for that reason. Why do you even bring that up? That's messed up. It's Alejandro in there. That's why I'm so excited about it. And less so for even Tom Cruise. Although I am excited for it because it's Tom Cruise and Tom Cruise has been very much an action star of the last few flicks.
02:15:30
Speaker
So I'm excited for it for that reason mainly is Alejandro like Birdman and The Revenant are excellent. Like I love them and I haven't seen a movie from him since he he did one. ah In his native language last, I think. And I, yeah, I'm hoping this is good. It's a comedy too. which is Birdman is kind of a comedy, I guess.
02:15:49
Speaker
The Revenant is certainly not. So. It is in some ways. The Revenant? Yeah. Yeah. It's ah elevated comedy.
02:16:00
Speaker
Yeah. It's elevated comedy. Yeah. New term. That's what the bear is. The bear is elevated comedy. It is. That, that, I actually am serious about that one. Yeah. we could going That's it today.
02:16:12
Speaker
i know. It's exciting because it's all out today. They put it all out, which Disney plus doesn't always do. They do with the week often. Yeah. So like, I am excited for this. I'm going to watch. oh yeah. I watched Gary. Oh, cool. Okay. and I watched that.
02:16:25
Speaker
ah that which is the the prequel it's with um i know Eban Moss Eban Moss Bacharach and yeah Bernthal yeah wait oh I forgot to say this did I not write a note about this I have no idea I didn't talk about, i watched the John Bernthal like special, the, the Punisher special. Oh, nice. Yeah. you I just wanted to bring it up because I laughed out loud in the beginning of the movie because not a movie. I guess it kind of is like the 50 minute special is is really short. It's funny. Yeah.
02:17:01
Speaker
But like I, I laughed out loud because there's a moment where he's doing pull-ups in the beginning. and I just thought of you because like you, you always say like John Bernthal is way over the top, but it's great that he's over the top. Like he goes into 11 and he's like, he doesn't never tones it down, but he's doing these pull-ups and he's like groaning like as loud as possible. And I'm like, oh my God, that's exactly what Adrian described. I don't agree with you. I said that before. I think he's in the, he's in the range he's supposed to be at for the character he is. I think he does a great job. He's like, he's a good actor.
02:17:32
Speaker
um But I just i just laughed out loud because instantly thought about you saying that because it was so over the top. You just watch the first like five minutes of it, maybe the first minute. He's just like groaning at like the top of his lungs as he's pulling up on a pull-up bar. Anyway, it's good.
02:17:48
Speaker
I liked it a lot. It's very bloody, very crazy. It's awesome. almost felt like it it left something to be desired, though, because it's like, okay, okay. I wish it was longer. Like I wish there was more. Did you resolve it?
02:17:58
Speaker
Did you? don't know. It does kind of end abruptly. Hey, like, I just feel like it ends. And I'm like, Oh, isn't there more to, to happen here? Yeah. That's kind of what I was thinking, but yeah, but we' we're doing a late stage. What we watched all of a sudden.
02:18:13
Speaker
Yeah. But anyway, yeah, the trailer of the week for me, Tom, cro the Tom Cruise retrospective Alejandro in a redo digger trailer. And we've got some. Don't you dare.
02:18:26
Speaker
I didn't do anything, dude. I don't know why you're why you're bringing attention to it so many times on this podcast. It shocks me that you didn't remember this. I don't. I don't want to mention two other trailers. OK, one, because I think it looks really cool. I think it's also an apple. The dink. You see this?
02:18:40
Speaker
Oh, I did watch the trailer for that. Yeah, that looks good. I like i like Jake Johnson. Yeah, he's like a tennis star becomes like a pickleball pickleball pickleball player because he injures himself. I just think it looks it looks really kind of funny. And that's a movie, right? Or is it a TV show?
02:18:54
Speaker
That's a TV show. I think TV show. OK, that makes sense. Let me just double check. Now I'm questioning it. And there's one more trailer I just want to bring up before we close off the show. Okay. ah If you've, as soon as you find out what the dink is, is the dink a TV show?
02:19:07
Speaker
It's a movie. Okay. Ah, it is a movie. Yeah. Weird. I don't know why. Give me a TV show vibe like deeply. But then after at the end, it was like, it's a movie. I'm like, what? Yeah. That's why I said it was a movie, right? To start this. And you said it was a TV show. It wasn't reversed.
02:19:22
Speaker
No, it was reversed. I was correct the entire time. So don't worry about it. Let's keep it going. I mean, it is recorded. um So I guess the audience would know. But um one more trailer I just want to point out. And I want to know if you think it's as controversial as people say.
02:19:36
Speaker
Adrian, they showed in this bi-week the Shrek 5 trailer. yeah. forgot about that. And it got lot weird hype online. What did you think of this hype? What did you think about the overall vibes of this trailer? And what you think? Like, is it warranted or are people overreacting? Because i got a firm overreaction.
02:19:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah, obviously. don't know, man. i don't know what people were expecting. It's just fucking Shrek, dude. Well, they didn't want it to be. They didn't want it to be developed at all. They want it to look exactly the same as it did with the CG from 2000. What? 2002. When to come out?
02:20:10
Speaker
2002 seems right. Yeah. 2001. I was going to say 2001. I said 2001. That's crazy, man. Like it doesn't look, they they just developed, they're like, it looks like AI. It's like, it does.
02:20:23
Speaker
It doesn't look like a AI. It has ruined everything. It's broken everyone's brain to just to assume something is AI. But no, I think it looks pretty fun. Like, I don't know. Shrek has always been kind of absurd. To be fair, I've only seen Shrek one and Shrek two.
02:20:36
Speaker
Maybe short the search and field, dude, we live in like ah a world in which there's a distortion field where people, but I wonder also maybe, is it like, are these people are very sheep like, like they want to follow other people.
02:20:47
Speaker
They look, look at it and say, this is an AI trailer because Jimmy said it. So now I have to believe it. Now I'm going start saying the same thing online as well. Yeah. I'm convinced because someone else said this thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. How does that happen?
02:21:00
Speaker
So you don't think it, it looks like that. You think it looks good. No, I think it looks there to even like, Yeah, like I think the animation looks wonderful. I think DreamWorks animation is all awesome. I feel like they were especially with like um Puss in Boots, The Last Wish. I feel like they They outperformed every other animation studio for a little bit there. Like I think pu but put some put puss in boots.
02:21:24
Speaker
The last which I can't talk is like one of the great animated movies of all times, both by look and by story. So yeah, sure. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. I do hate the whole like Gen Z haircut thing, but I think that was the joke.
02:21:38
Speaker
Yeah. I'm like, okay, this looks weird, but it's fine. I like Trek has it. It's his son. Yeah. Like broccoli haircut or whatever they call it. Yeah. I don't think I ever heard that term until my brother told me that. I'm like, broccoli have haircut's not a term. He's like, yes, it is. Like broccoli ass head, motherfucker. And then I keep saying it everywhere. I'm like, all right, he was right.
02:21:59
Speaker
Fine. He was right. He wins. The broccoli cut. He wins. I don't know. I just can't. I couldn't believe the outrage. I'm like, I don't know why I should say I couldn't believe it. I feel like I definitely, I could definitely believe. I believe everything these days, man.
02:22:14
Speaker
Everyone just loves complaining. Yeah. like I'm complaining about people complaining. You got to get the money from Elon on Twitter. I know. I fucking hate it. I'm not on Twitter, dude. i I've deleted Twitter many years ago. I don't go on there. Yeah, but it leeches over to everything else. That's the problem.
02:22:29
Speaker
I guess. I got to delete Instagram off my phone. I got to delete everything off my phone. The only issue with Instagram is like I communicate with so many people on there. It's got like meme threads.
02:22:41
Speaker
Yeah. like that That's where I like converse with a lot of my pals. And it's like, that's the issue. That's the issue. he said I just use it for memes. Yeah. Trying not to go on there too much. Anyways. But okay, cool, man. Well, that's it. We did it.
02:22:54
Speaker
We accomplished it. We did episode 139. Do you have anything to say to to our audience before I close the show off, sir? Do I have anything to say? No, I don't think so.
02:23:08
Speaker
Do you? No, I just got to give my sore gums a rest here. Yeah. So you gotta shut the hell up, huh? Yeah. Is that it? In a moment. Okay, that's fair. After these two sentences. All right. Thank you for listening, audience, to episode 139 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie, and it has been a pleasure to host you alongside...
02:23:26
Speaker
The creme de la creme of co-hosts. Amazing. The creme de la creme of co-hosts, Adrian Pinter. Please join us for episode 140 on July 14th. Good evening to you and good luck.
02:23:41
Speaker
Episode 140 on July 14th. 14, 140. There's been 10 Julys. 14 times 10 equals 140. fourteen one forty there's been ten julys a hunt fourteen times ten equals one forty Take care and goodbye.
02:23:56
Speaker
Wow. Okay. Goodbye.