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Japan's Maglev: 250km of Tunnel Through Earthquake Country

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Join Jason and Carlos as they explore three major infrastructure and technology developments:

๐Ÿš„ Japan's $60 Billion Maglev Project: Explore Japan's ambitious $60 billion Chuo Shinkansen Maglev project connecting Tokyo to Nagoya in 40 minutes. Discover the engineering challenges of building 250 kilometres of tunnel through earthquake-prone terrain and fault lines deep underground.

๐Ÿ’ฐ Germany's โ‚ฌ500 Billion Bet: Germany announces a massive infrastructure fund to transform its roads, railways, and digital networks. Learn how this fiscally conservative nation plans to double its infrastructure spending over the next decade.

๐Ÿ—๏ธ Construction Tech Headlines Test: Jason, Carlos, and producer Olu examine whether construction technology companies communicate their services through a guessing game, analysing real website headlines to see if they can identify what each company does.

Key Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction & AI Blackmail Discussion

04:58 - Japan's Maglev Project Deep Dive

11:52 - Germany's โ‚ฌ500 Billion Infrastructure Fund

22:01 - Construction Tech Headline Challenge

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Transcript

Exploring Superconducting Maglev Technology

00:00:00
Speaker
The maglev line is what it says on the tin. I didn't even think this was a real thing, but it uses superconducting magnetic levitation to to absolutely like float a train 10 centimeters above this like guideway.
00:00:17
Speaker
um And a prototype of it in 2015 reached 600 kilometers an hour. And not only are they doing this thing, they're doing it on a 286 kilometer route.
00:00:30
Speaker
The 25 kilometers of the route runs underneath Japan's Southern Alps, crosses a massive fault line. It's like 1,400 meters below this ah the surface of the Earth.
00:00:46
Speaker
seven of the earth. Thanks for clarifying which one it. yeah I wasn't sure whether it was like from the mountain top or from sea level. So I just, okay, I left it vague.

Introduction to Offsite Podcast and Main Topics

00:01:03
Speaker
Welcome back to the Offsite Podcast, episode 91. I think we are at the ticker. I am Jason Lansini, joined once again by co-host with most Carlos Cavallo.
00:01:15
Speaker
Today, we are talking about Japan's massive maglev high-speed train project, which we're going to nerd out on for a good 10, 15 minutes.
00:01:25
Speaker
Then we're going to take take a deep dive into Germany's massive 500 billion Euro special fund for infrastructure, which if you're in into infrastructure or technology that infrastructure people use, ah you should be definitely aware of.
00:01:40
Speaker
And then finally, we're going to look at some headlines and taglines of companies in construction technology and see if we can guess what they do based on a conversation that has come up a bunch recently about software companies claiming to save the world or have huge benefit, but not clearly describe what they do.
00:02:02
Speaker
And we'll see if we can put that to the test. Carlos, how are you,

Anthropic and AI Funding Tactics

00:02:05
Speaker
mate? Pretty good, Banks. having a I was having a good giggle this morning at an article that Olu, are ah our producer, shared with us.
00:02:13
Speaker
An Anthropic who has an application called Claude, a bit like ChatGPT, but a bit better for a few different things. yeah um A lot better. blackmail.
00:02:27
Speaker
male individuals and companies ah that basically threaten to use other tools. So it gets a bit dark and dirty ah with some blackmail tactics. So end of the world moment.
00:02:40
Speaker
I don't know if you follow this. don't know if you follow this story very closely, but This company has, there is a conspiracy theory that whenever Anthropic is getting close to trying to raise some additional X number of billion dollars in funding, their playbook is that they reignite this like AI end of the world discussion.
00:03:01
Speaker
Our AI is so powerful it could do all of these things to end the world, you know, ah conversation. that If you look at the scenario, which was like, oh, we're going to turn, the scenario they gave was something like, we're going to turn off your, you're going to get basically turned off as AI, but the engineer that's going to do it is cheating on their spouse.
00:03:20
Speaker
And it's like, you've kind of like given them the answer. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what could you do about it? Oh, okay. it was thought I might try and blackmail them. Not say that that's like the obvious answer, but like, you know, you've kind of put the, you've kind of like dangled it close enough that you could see how you could see how it goes and gets to that conclusion.
00:03:42
Speaker
yeah So I think it's a bit contrived. If you buy into the conspiracy like some people, ah it feels a bit contrived to grab headlines ah to

Personal Life Updates from Hosts

00:03:53
Speaker
put them back in the news before they're going to try and raise their next round of funding. I think OpenAI i raised recently like 40 billion or something. So yeah, the race is the race continues here. Yeah.
00:04:04
Speaker
Good. But how are you generally? Yeah, well, good. I started my day being thrown up on by a very sick 14-month-old baby. So, you know, that gets you going in the morning.
00:04:17
Speaker
um Yeah. But I've roped in his ah his grandparent for the next couple of days. So I've ah delegated authority of that one. Wonderful. How are you?
00:04:28
Speaker
I'm good. Can't complain. Back in Germany, it's raining. It's hot. ah No buildings have air conditioning. Someone needs to sort out the air conditioning. Sounds like a tropical country in Southeast Asia. It's raining. It's hot. It's noisy.
00:04:41
Speaker
Well, the tropical country in Southeast Asia has the AC, so. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. But no, good. Very good. And was in London last week, had a ball.
00:04:52
Speaker
um And so, yeah, the topics this week are ah particularly interesting.

Deep Dive: Japan's Chushinkansen Maglev Project

00:04:58
Speaker
The read so far, let's let's just dive into to the one off the the top So,
00:05:03
Speaker
um In the latest edition of the offsite newsletter, shout out to the offsite newsletter, the Chushinkansen Maglev project. If you have not heard of this, I was going to say pause and go and look it up, but we're about to talk about it. So you could just keep listening and you'll also learn about it. It's a really cool project. Go have a look. had Topic number two. yeah It is a 288 kilometer long maglev rail line from Tokyo to Nagoya, which is a large city in Japan.
00:05:33
Speaker
Both of those are large cities in Japan. I just assume people know Tokyo. um And the goal is to bring this trip down to about 40 ah minutes It's about a 60 billion USD investment.
00:05:45
Speaker
ah The maglev line is what it says on the tin. I didn't even think this was a real thing, but it uses superconducting magnetic levitation.
00:05:56
Speaker
to to absolutely like float a train 10 centimeters above this like guideway. um And a prototype of it in 2015 reached 600 kilometers an hour.
00:06:09
Speaker
And not only are they doing this thing, they're doing it on a 286 kilometer route. The 25 kilometers of the route runs underneath Japan's Southern Alps, crosses a massive fault line It's like 1400 meters below this ah the surface of the Earth.
00:06:32
Speaker
Surface of the Earth. Thanks clarifying which planet. I wasn't sure whether it was like from the mountain top or from sea level. So I just, okay, I left it vague. yeah Yeah, it's ah also 90% is underground. So the 250 kilometers of board tunnel, which is absolutely massive. of I, yeah, first of all, i had the research for this started with like, are maglevs real?
00:06:56
Speaker
um Then like, oh my god, maybe there's lots of these. Are there other ones? No, there's not. ah They've actually, this is the first one in Japan.
00:07:08
Speaker
um The Shinkansen is, for those that know the famed Japanese bullet trains, this is, so it's a type of a bullet train. This one's faster than a speeding bullet. did No response to my Sin Man reference.
00:07:24
Speaker
um Yeah, it's absolutely amazing project. Construction progress isn't so amazing. um So the project started in, got approved in 2011, construction began 2014, and 11 years later, it's 15% complete.
00:07:41
Speaker
So a bit of work to do. the The project is supposed to now finish in 2034.
00:07:51
Speaker
ah But even that seems punchy in some people saying 2037. So yeah, Carlos, what a project, huh? Yeah, that must be ah a dream project for engineers to work on. 250 kilometers of tunnel, a 500 kilometer high speed train, two major cities.
00:08:08
Speaker
Obviously, distance wise, if you, I was looking at the driving route, it's over three hundred and fifty k four and a half hours. so it's yeah It's a serious distance. The existing train is 90 minutes and that's cut down to 40. So like a significant saving in time.
00:08:21
Speaker
So um yeah, major scheme, seriously late. I think they said, yeah, they've got another 10 years to go. So the majority of the work is still to go. But you touched on one of the aspects there, which is that it's on a fault line.
00:08:33
Speaker
And ah yeah, digging into what they've had to work with around there, but there's something like 1500 earthquakes per year. So everything infrastructure has to go through pretty serious design considerations for earthquakes.
00:08:45
Speaker
Yeah. So it's something they know very well, but 250 kilometer tunnel with a train that's floating... 10 centimeters above a magnet. feels like a very risky thing to sort of funnel through a ah fault line.
00:08:59
Speaker
Yeah, it seems like they use a combination of isolation or expanding joints in all of these sections to give this sort of a bit of leeway, a bit of flex to the tunnel itself. Yeah. um And obviously they do like a shitload of monitoring across all of these things. They're constantly trying to work out like exactly when to shut down the system, to cut the trains, to make sure that there would be no one in the tunnel when there's a like a certain Richter scale of um seismic activity across the route.
00:09:25
Speaker
Yeah, obviously that's running the trains, building those in a region with 1500 earthquakes. I don't even know how you get around that from a safety point of view. Like how often can you have people in a TBM if if you're getting, what, five earthquakes a day, technically within the country?
00:09:42
Speaker
Yeah, I honestly don't even know where to start um on on the project. is i We're definitely not even doing justice in the the overview here. I recommend people look it up.
00:09:54
Speaker
You can read the article on the offsite newsletter ah or or search the project generally. um But it's like... every part of this thing is like on hard mode.
00:10:06
Speaker
Yeah, 500 kilometer hour floating trains through, they can go up to um level seven on the Richter scale earthquakes and still function. Like that's- Yeah, and constantly. like All the time.
00:10:20
Speaker
um There's obviously at the speed that it travels, you don't really want too many stations near each other. um But there are, apart from the terminus station, I think there are four stations along the route as well.
00:10:33
Speaker
And interestingly, like a lot of the cost escalation has happened at stations. So that's not the hard bit. um So... It seems as though the classic like services and coordination and design at stations is the is the thing that's usually the killer is the killer again. Yeah, it's definitely um you're buying speed with this type of technology as well. So Maglev uses more energy than traditional high speed rail.
00:10:59
Speaker
Yeah. It's not the most economical, ah sorry, isn's it's not the most sustainable approach to high-speed rail. And I think a lot of their issues came with um environmental fears over sort of rivers and lakes and its crossing through areas of local agriculture. So yeah, it seems like the public have pushed back quite substantially, which has caused a lot of these delays.
00:11:20
Speaker
So um yeah, a bit of a controversial deal. Still, I've not looked at the numbers, but I reckon still wildly more ah wildly better for the environment than then obviously flying between the two locations or driving 600 kilometers over the Alps.
00:11:34
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. yeah it's just not as good electrified rail networks. Yeah, it's and I can't recommend people ah strongly enough to go and check out this project. A new line inside of the the like bullet train network and what they're building is

Germany's Infrastructure Investment Plans

00:11:52
Speaker
unreal.
00:11:52
Speaker
So pushing forward, ah Germany ah is making, has made one of its like boldest moves in terms of funding and infrastructure investment in, I don't know, lifetimes almost.
00:12:09
Speaker
So So it has recently announced a 500 billion euro special fund aimed at fast tracking upgrades to roads, railways, digital infrastructure, and to ah sidestep constitutional limitations on government borrowing.
00:12:25
Speaker
And we thought we'd break down and have a look at what's in this fund. What does it mean for folks in the construction industry that may not think about Germany as a as a place that they might go to deliver projects or to construction software companies or technology companies that might look at Europe as, you know, we'll get there eventually or a bit hard or maybe not worth it country by country.
00:12:48
Speaker
So for some context here as ah as someone that's in Germany, so Germany has this interesting scenario where they have a constitutional, so a legal government ah limitation on how much they can borrow and spend as ah as a country.
00:13:05
Speaker
And the way that they get around that is not by changing that limitation, but they basically agree to put stuff outside of the cap.
00:13:16
Speaker
the cap ah through some loopholes and off the back of a whole bunch of conversations around, you know, what's happening geopolitically, the potential like withdrawal of like ah the US as, you know, a supporter of of some of Europe's goals.
00:13:35
Speaker
um and yeah other geopolitical changes, there has been a massive and appetite in what has historically been one of the most fiscally conservative countries in the world to start ah massively ramping up yeah its spend on infrastructure.
00:13:55
Speaker
To give some further context to that Germany um has currently a debt to GDP ratio of 64%. So of its GDP, which is like, i think roughly four or five trillion in USD GDP, it is currently 64% of that number in debt.
00:14:15
Speaker
If you look at big countries around the world, like France, France is 111%. The is at 101%. And the US 122%. the uk is it a hundred and one percent and the us is at one hundred and twenty two percent ah So in terms of how levered and how indebted ah the country is, Germany is one of the least indebted countries in Europe and and probably around the world.
00:14:38
Speaker
And so they have the most, they have a lot of like dry powder to unleash. And so they have recently approved this 500 billion euro fund.
00:14:50
Speaker
across a whole bunch of different infrastructure. Carlos, don't know if you dove in yet to any of the different areas of spending, but there's ah there's a lot here. Yeah, a huge amount. So just to give an idea of yeah the the profile of spend, we've got about 50 billion worth going directly into rail um to improve um yeah some aging infrastructure, and then adding an electrification of lines and increasing capacity across the network.
00:15:19
Speaker
We've got ah road infrastructure. So There seems to be a lot of pinch points in the country where congestion seems to sort of peak around bridges. So they're trying to increase that capacity to deal with ah better flowing traffic across the country.
00:15:33
Speaker
um There's energy infrastructure. So a huge amount will be going towards renewable energy, but then they also have to upgrade the grid trans grid transmission for things like wid wind energy across the country and hydrogen pipelines.
00:15:48
Speaker
and I think green energy storage systems. So yeah, the full sort of suite, what you would expect. It covers 5G rollout. So leveling up their connectivity. Great. They're targeting.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah, how's the internet at the moment? It's going to get better. Yeah, 400,000 homes per year is in that target. So a huge amount of homes being added to the market. And then they also have ah put aside some work towards technical education um within construction energy and AI. They have, it seems a bit of an issue with an aging workforce.
00:16:24
Speaker
um But also if you look at the spend, so this works out to something like $50 billion dollars a year over the 10 year period, they need an extra 100,000 on top of what the current market provides to be able to deliver at that pace. So yeah, education, leveling up their skill set is a huge part of being able to deliver this um because it's not like they could just absorb workers from every other EU country. France, Italy, all the major economies are also doing similar spending plans, not to the same sort of level, but yeah, there's no shortage of work, that's for sure.
00:16:59
Speaker
Yeah, and just they're in such a strong place to become like to to continue to entrench themselves as one of the leaders in Europe, ah given the the the additional capacity um as a result of like fiscal conservatism over time. As you said, like 150 to 200 billion into transport directly, 100 plus billion into energy and climate.
00:17:23
Speaker
Like we know that France is investing a ton in AI data centers and energy and nuclear. ah And we talked previously about Germany shutting down all their nuclear power. They're going to have, if they want to compete in this space, the need for a boatload more energy production and grid. So it's massive. put To put this into context, so this is an effective doubling of their infrastructure spend year on year.
00:17:48
Speaker
It pushes them over 1% of GDP. The 500 billion is supposed to be deployed roughly over 10 to 12 years. So as you said, between 40 and 50 billion additional per year in infrastructure spend.
00:18:00
Speaker
um That pushes them over 1% of GDP in infrastructure, directly in infrastructure investment. That is double the US for context, which spends roughly 0.5%.
00:18:14
Speaker
This will take Germany from one of the more fiscally conservative and lower spenders to the one of the leading infrastructure spenders, ah definitely in in Europe.
00:18:26
Speaker
And this is the start of a 10, 12 year investment in this space. So we'll be talking a lot more about Germany in the industry over over time.
00:18:36
Speaker
You know, we saw this happen when we started seeing the investment announcements in, say, Saudi Arabia or other parts of the Middle East. And then suddenly you see people moving there, working there, companies setting up headquarters there. I think we're going to see a similar thing in in Germany because the need for workers, the need for contractors to deliver projects is is going to come. it's um It'll be interesting to keep tabs on because like if we think it's a 10-year period, which is a long time, the the net ad is, I think they they suggest a two-to-one ratio. So every every euro of money you plug into infrastructure, you should get two euros back towards like GDP. yeah um
00:19:15
Speaker
It's a 10-year period. So if they're... really putting money towards infrastructure. The public's not going to feel the benefit that of most of that for quite a long time, and they're probably sacrificing elsewhere. So it'll be interesting to see, do those plans shift within this 10-year period? How committed is it in the long run when yeah political views can change pretty quickly?
00:19:35
Speaker
I don't I think that does make a difference, right? Like if they if you just ballpark numbers, I think they're at four four plus trillion in GDP. Like the people here will talk about how they know that they're one of the slowest growing countries in Europe.
00:19:48
Speaker
Growth is like a big gap for them. Even if your number of that like multiplier of money is correct and they're putting 50 billion into the economy in a year's time.
00:19:59
Speaker
and you might get a hundred billion in like GDP growth as a result of the multiplier effect. That's a one divided 40. Yeah. It's like two and a half percent additional GDP growth.
00:20:11
Speaker
Like if we think about one of the pain points was like an aging workforce, is that good feeling going to be actually with the older or more experienced generation rather than the younger? who are having more of an influence on direction and politics. so what are the benefits that One of the benefits that Germany has that the UK doesn't have or did have until it decided to leave is it has the pool of all European workers.
00:20:35
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, does. So it has ah it has ah massive benefit. You know, theoretically, for the 500 billion, it should be able to, you know, we talked last week about the deal between ah Europe and the UK and how that would solve some of the UK's problems around expensive materials and ah expensive labor.
00:20:53
Speaker
Germany has most of those advantages already being in the single market. So it should be able to get more bang for its buck on yeah the on the investment as well. yeah i just might be I might be biased because I'm here, but I'm very bullish on the future of of ah Germany and France as the two biggest economies in Europe.
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah, and then a click conflicting argument against my own argument. It sounds like there's a pretty poor public perception of a lot of this transport infrastructure, and they've been asking about it for a long time. Yeah, it's rubbish.
00:21:26
Speaker
Yeah. it's shit it's probably Everyone in the UK thinks Germany is at like the... No, no, rail and road, they know they know they've been like super stingy or fiscally conservative on the on the investment. i um Definitely needs, it definitely needs the attention and they definitely know it. And, you know, the maybe the older population, like the fact the trains run on time or whatever, but the younger tech people will definitely want the jobs.
00:21:52
Speaker
So yeah, it' very bullish. if you don't know If you're not across this and you're in the in the space, definitely get across it because it's it's ah it's a big

Vague Claims in Construction Tech

00:22:01
Speaker
deal. um Okay, time for something lighter.
00:22:04
Speaker
ah um So yeah, maybe if we start and set the scene, ah there is a lot of content and a lot of posts and a lot of people talk around that like so much of the construction technology space ends up trying to ah present what they can do at increasingly like higher and higher levels. So they go from, like I don't know, we help get QA records done for your project in this way to like we help improve the speed of QA to we help make your project faster to we make like we make the world better becomes their like headline.
00:22:41
Speaker
So that over time, for some reason, the the the description or the accuracy or the clarity of what someone does from their website seems to get like lower and lower and lower. And the generic claim of some benefit that helps the world increases. And this was epitomized by a post that we looked at the other day where um an analyst on LinkedIn said, if you had to explain your ah if you had to explain your technology to a two a superintendent in two lines, could you do it?
00:23:11
Speaker
And after that, we started talking, we briefly touched on this in a previous podcast. We started talking offline about how clear are what people say on their website versus what they do when we try to look at potential partners and other people in the industry.
00:23:25
Speaker
There are some pretty spurious ah claims and hard to interpret headlines. So what we did is we set producer Olu off on a mission to go and find 10 different companies' websites and return with their headlines and see if we could guess what they do or at bonus points for if you guess the company.
00:23:43
Speaker
um And so before I introduce producer Olu from behind the scenes onto the podcast, I probably need to Carlos also say like, we have been as guilty as anybody in doing this.
00:23:56
Speaker
this is not like This is not an other company's problem thing. We have done this. We probably are still doing this on our website somewhere.
00:24:07
Speaker
So we're as guilty as anybody, just to be super, super clear. Now no one could be annoyed. That's it. Yeah, yeah. So apologies if we fail to guess people's companies. We've not seen the list, but I'm sure you could take parts of our website and we could definitely be on the list.
00:24:27
Speaker
All right, Olu, welcome out from behind the shadows and into the light hello of On

Guessing Game: Deciphering Tech Company Purposes

00:24:34
Speaker
Air. Hello. Hello. you feel How do you feel about being ah on the podcast? Yeah, it's like a it's good. It's good to be out of mike the little podcast dungeon. It's a little bright up here, but you know and ah my eyes will adjust.
00:24:51
Speaker
Nice one. So you've got the What do you want us to do? You just want to dive straight in? Yeah. So pretty much as you've said, I've got 10 websites. Literally we took the headline right at the top of the page. And yeah, I'll read that out to you. You can have a guess of what they do, and then I'll tell you who they are, and then a little bit of a summary of what they actually do.
00:25:13
Speaker
Okay, and Carlos and I are showing hands, so we're not Googling. Yeah. Jason's favorite task of this Sunday is to review the websites of other tech vendors. So, yeah. Let's see how we get up. As you said before, Carlos, team sport. If one of us gets it, we both get it. Yeah. I'm keen for that. Apart from the customers that are trying to work out what the companies do, they would be real winner. Yeah.
00:25:41
Speaker
A little bit of clarity for them, yeah. So first up ah for number one, we have digitize your construction sites. How you start with a cracker. you ah Anything.
00:25:55
Speaker
This is anything. If I just guess Autodesk every time I'm going to get my... I was going to say it would be some sort of BIM modeling tool that think that's the... Do you think BIM, but digitize the construction site makes me feel slightly more orientated towards the field?
00:26:12
Speaker
I don't think it's like a like an open space or an image capture tool. You don't? I think you would... i just I could just think of a hundred better ways to say it if you were. um Okay, this will be good. Let's roll with that. Not that...
00:26:26
Speaker
but maybe like something logistics. I don't know. That's rare. it's That's broad. Yeah. Yeah. Digitized construction. I'm going with Autodesk. Carlos?
00:26:39
Speaker
No, no. Autodesk sucks. Not what? It sucks. Yes. But it that's a again, the guess also sucks. The, oh God. ah what type of What type of solution is it? Don't think about the- like reality capture. I'm going to go with drone deploy.
00:26:56
Speaker
I'm going to go more on the model side, say something like a synchro. Nice. Okay. You're both wrong. It is in fact field wire, which is- That was closest to the field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When that, I was like, ooh.
00:27:08
Speaker
Yeah, close, but could more specific. You have just said that. Yeah.
00:27:15
Speaker
and track punch this generating reports from any device and on site yeah close but that could be more specific cu youve just said that all right, ah second one.
00:27:28
Speaker
All eyes on site, all teams in the zone. Yeah, that's right at the top in massive text. Surely that's a field tool. Go get one more time, Oli. All eyes on site, all teams in the zone. Planks.
00:27:39
Speaker
It's got to be about job cards or daily tasks or something to do with like, what are the team doing each day? My new strategy is I'm going on gut. I think planks. I don't know why, but no. Yeah.
00:27:50
Speaker
All eyes on site. ah that Definitely like capture, but then teams in the zone zone meant like if they're in the area, i don't know. It's so cryptic. I can get on board with that.
00:28:01
Speaker
Yeah. Or is it something stupid like data scope? Data scope is not stupid. That guess, there's nothing wrong with data scope. I didn't mean it. I mean, um yeah, it's like a,
00:28:14
Speaker
Yeah, a backwards way of describing it's tracking people. Yeah, let's go Plinks. Incorrect. It's Let's Build. Product focused on site coordination, quality and safety, and schedule communication.
00:28:25
Speaker
No, we'll never have got that. Right, next one. Field management made easy. oh I would have guessed Fieldwire again, but could it be like a Daylux or a...
00:28:36
Speaker
It won't be a pro call because that's too specific on that part of it. Field management. At least it's more descriptive. have no idea. So I think you guys get understand that what the solution might be, but you're not.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah. and if i don't know the car I don't know the company, yeah but I feel like it's, yeah, i feel like it's coordinated. i'm going to guess Bridget. Incorrect. It's Racken, but it is like a mobile field management app, ah very similar to,
00:29:07
Speaker
Good. fieldide right Well done. That's not that so far. That's the best headline. yeah yeah Next one. Get answers. Keep building. Oh, shit.
00:29:19
Speaker
Trunk tools. I think it's an AI chat. Yeah. stuff yeah It's not like a, no, that wouldn't be an end plan. Like I'm thinking of one of the tools that's recently released an agent so you can ask questions and keep building as a bit. The keep building makes me think it's in the field again. So that's why like, yeah, get answers, keep building ch trunk tools. Follow the guess? That's my guess. I'm keen on Carlos's because if we if we put two guesses in, one of us might hit.
00:29:47
Speaker
We're just going for field tours every time and hoping for the best. Oh, I'm going to say Daylux again. I can't think of many other field tours that I mentioned. That would be quite a punchy headline for Daylux.
00:29:57
Speaker
Yeah. Cool. It is, in fact, open space. So, reality capture using hands-free 360 video. Yeah, maybe. Could be better.
00:30:08
Speaker
So, you can turn, yeah, sight walks into digital twins within minutes. ah Next, take control of your materials. ah Yeah, what's the name? It's obviously materials management platform. ah it's This is good because ah du now it's like, either I don't think it's Matt Track. I don't think there's one from the US, which I always forget the name of.
00:30:31
Speaker
oh Or like a Veya or Matt Track. I don't know exactly which one, Olu. I'm going to guess Matt Track. Incorrect. It's a company called Kojo, which is formerly that's the one. That's the one.
00:30:44
Speaker
That's the one from the that one. forgot the name wrong. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So materials management. ah Yeah. It's a materials management platform connecting the field prefab. Great. Good. Good. heaven Very simple. Yeah.
00:30:57
Speaker
Well done. Next, ah your construction operations command center. That's buzzwords. That is, that feels like construction operations command center. I'm going to go build dots.
00:31:09
Speaker
I feel like it's progress tracking, planning AI, so and it feels like the language that build dots would use. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Incorrect. Fuck. It is a company called Assigner, ah which is ah basically for scheduling cruise equipment and subcontractors.
00:31:28
Speaker
thought you were just freaking well-known companies in this list. No, Assigner is well-known. I have. i You're like digging. No, they are. They're from the US.
00:31:39
Speaker
I think they're like a competitor to Bridget. They do resource scheduling. Yeah. People. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. What was the headline again? i don't think I would ever have got that. Your construction operations command center.
00:31:51
Speaker
Yeah, that's over claiming. Just scheduling. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Right on. Sweet. Automate tracking, predict delays. I'm going to go build ups again. Carlos? Yeah, we've had open space.
00:32:04
Speaker
Yeah. it has to be progress tracking. It has to be one of the progress tracking companies. I'm going to guess BuildDots. That's the only way they can can predict today. I actually was on the website relatively recently, and I'm pretty sure i'm pretty i'm pretty sure this is the headline.
00:32:17
Speaker
This is, you're quite correct. It is build dots. Yeah. So AI ai assisted and tracking using 360 video um to flag deviations and forecast delays.
00:32:31
Speaker
Actually. One out of nine. but i bring it We'll bring it home. Connecting field operations to office decisions. I don't know if Psy translates, but this feels like a Procore Autodesk thing.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah, it must be plan to report. We've had Let's Build who claims to do that. So Procore or... Field operations to what, Ollo? Field operations ah to office decisions.
00:32:59
Speaker
Oh, it's gotta be, it's gotta have a plan related. It's not gonna be a contract schedule. So outbuild? Maybe. Yeah, let's go out. we blow night That's a good, that's a good guess. That's a good guess.
00:33:10
Speaker
Incorrect. It is a company called Versatile ah that create um sensors for cranes so they can get their detailed information on time.
00:33:22
Speaker
Just put sensors for trains. Just put sensors for trains. I need trains. Right. Yeah. Cool. All right. No, I need to connect what?
00:33:32
Speaker
Field operation. Yeah. that All right. That's number one. That's number one example of it. So strict range. Oh my God. Right. okay Okay. Second to last, optimize the risk and recover your construction project.
00:33:48
Speaker
It's an Alice and plan. And plan. One of them. No, it's yeah. I'm going to go Alice. Pick what? out i I'm going to go Alice because they use the word optimize. Yeah, and that's that.
00:33:59
Speaker
Yeah, you you are correct. Yes. and the That's quite descriptive. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually pretty good. So there's that yeah to three good ones.
00:34:11
Speaker
and And then finally, ah multiplayer planning software for construction. That's clear. Yeah. It's going to be Apex for someone extremely cheeky. Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker
That is correct. It is indeed Apex. And yeah, it does what it says on the tin, doesn't it? You should have grabbed the headline from like a year ago. and That would have been... Yeah. Yeah. The fastest way for construction delivery teams to plan together, I think, was... Yeah, it gets worse.
00:34:44
Speaker
Yeah. well About five years ago, it was smart tools for construction. Yeah. I don't even know what that is. That is horrible. Yeah. We've come along. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:55
Speaker
Nice. Nice. fat guy Well done. I think, yeah, point validated, right?
00:35:03
Speaker
Just say what you do is the lesson for all of us so people can work out if they need it or don't need it. and Yeah. We can't all be we can't all be the the command center for construction or whatever it was.
00:35:19
Speaker
Census for grain. ah

Podcast Conclusion and Listener Engagement

00:35:22
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Cool. Yeah. Nice one, Olu. Thank you very much. I think we're definitely well and truly out of time, Carlos. So do you want to read us out? ah bo I've already closed my page, but no, thank you very much, everyone, for listening to today's podcast.
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