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Ep 86: The Big Reveal with Amanda Hamilton
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Amanda from Free Play joins us and the mystery of the puzzle pieces are finally revealed!
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Thanks
Introduction and Guest Announcement
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for tuning in to the Loser Kid Pinball Podcast.
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We are on episode 86.
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With me, my co-captain, as always.
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Scott Larson.
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And Scott, we got a guest on today.
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We do have a guest on today.
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And I bet they even use Flippin' Out Pinball.
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I think they do.
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I bet they do.
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Oh, yeah.
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She even
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bets we do, too.
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Yeah.
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You know why she uses Flippin' Out Pinball along with us?
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She's Flippin' Out Pinball.
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Probably because Zach owns part of my soul because she's probably also part of the TPN.
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Wait, did you?
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Okay, so that's what you got for your soul?
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I only got like some Hubba Bubba for my soul.
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Or Alf Pogs.
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You remember that?
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From the Simpsons episode when Bart sells his soul.
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I like how we've already went off track and we're talking about our sponsor.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So speaking of selling your soul, if you need to buy a pinball machine, contact Zach and Nicole Minia flipping out pinball.
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They will be able to hook you up with all your pinball needs.
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And,
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Um, if you need that new, you know, Jurassic park was just on the line.
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So, uh,
Meet Amanda Hamilton
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or if you want to get that Godzilla and maybe you want to have a lizard, uh, group, you can put Jurassic park and Godzilla next to each other, but, uh, anything that you want, uh, they are certainly willing and able to figure out ways of helping you out.
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So contact Zach and Nicole flipping out pinball.
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So the real question is, would you, would you sell your soul, uh,
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To Zach for a 40th, number 40, 40th edition Elvira.
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That's true.
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He still is.
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You know, Elvira is not really my theme, but I'm sure there is an audience for her.
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And you know what?
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Definitely.
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He has the 40th edition number 40.
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That's not the only one he has.
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He has another one, I believe.
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He has number 69 as well.
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He just sold that one.
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He did.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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We had a house of horse and we sold it before the anniversary edition came out.
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It's a great game.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I need to properly introduce.
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So this woman, if you ever go to a pinball show, she's probably going to be hanging out with like John Borg or zombie Yeti or Dwight Sullivan.
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Cause that's, that's her homie.
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And she is like the life of the party.
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As soon as you walk in, she knows she's there.
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It is Amanda Hamilton with the Free Play Pinball Podcast.
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How are you doing, Amanda?
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I'm good, guys.
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How are you?
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You know what?
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It's the start of summer and we are just starting to get in the groove.
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Same.
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You can get to your garages again to play pinball.
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You don't have to shovel snow now.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Don't joke about it snowed two weeks ago here in Utah.
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Are you serious?
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Well, okay.
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Now, by you did not snow by you.
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Well, okay.
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And the mountains, what do you live on?
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What do you live on?
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Hoth?
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I technically do live in the mountains.
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So yes, it snowed up here like two weeks ago.
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What is that like?
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They had to get their tauntauns out and run around.
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Oh man.
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I hear those things smell if you cut them open.
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That's true.
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They do.
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Yeah.
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It's not very fun to go from 75 degree weather down to 40 and snowing.
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So I will say these two months happen.
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They are my favorite months in Utah, like the June and July up until July 4th.
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And then it starts getting really hot in July and August.
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But like I was out putting together an umbrella outside and it's beautiful temperature.
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It's perfect.
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Define hot for me, please.
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We live in Florida.
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So yeah, no.
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Okay.
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So I have humidity.
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We don't have that here.
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I don't want to live in any place that has a season named after a natural disaster.
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That is true.
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We have four seasons here.
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So for your listeners who are not familiar, I do live in Florida.
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I live in Northeast Florida.
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And I have for a very long time.
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And we have four seasons in Florida.
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We have
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summer.
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We have hurricane season, we have football season, and we have love bug season, and they all overlap.
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Love bug.
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Love bug.
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Okay, I'm not familiar with love bug season.
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Love bugs are abominations created by man at the University of Florida to help control the mosquito population.
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And they're literally these two little black bugs that are conjoined at the butt.
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And they have orange heads and they get on your car in the spring and in the fall and they eat your paint.
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It's, it's disgusting.
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They're so nasty and they're everywhere and they climb on you and you think you're being attacked by spiders and they're harmless.
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They just are annoying.
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And this is a bad genetic experiment.
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Yeah, basically.
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I, because Florida man, I don't know.
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I don't know why we do the things we do here.
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You do realize they have things called mosquito hawks.
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Like they could have just used those and like.
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I don't know.
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It's always dangerous when you introduce a new species into an ecosystem.
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Yes.
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Controlling two bugs at the butt does not.
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Yeah.
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However.
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It's fully more safe than introducing an invasive species.
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I did like during COVID though, when people are talking about like units of measurement, someone said, well, I'm from Florida.
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And so during COVID they were saying, stay an alligator apart from your coworker.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Um, and depending on which part of Florida you're in and I mean, cause our alligators will get big.
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We'll get 12 to 15 foot alligators.
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So that exceeds that six foot rule.
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Yeah.
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Is that, is that a guy measuring the alligator?
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I'm just, it probably is.
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It probably is.
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Suspecting it's wrong.
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I mean, sometimes they measure them by Python.
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Yeah.
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You know, we have that Python issue down in South Florida too.
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So yeah, that happened in, didn't that happen with like Hurricane Andrew?
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Like a whole bunch of pythons got into the Everglades and they just took over.
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Yeah, basically pythons and boas.
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People would buy them for pets and they'd get so big they couldn't handle them.
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So they just let them go.
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Sure, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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Yeah, we can't release mosquito hawks, but we can release pythons.
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Come on now.
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I love bugs.
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But Josh, you would appreciate this.
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I was going to say, you would appreciate this.
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When it does get
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cold in Florida for the three days a year, it does.
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They put out warnings because the iguanas will fall out of the trees and land on you.
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That is awesome.
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Yeah.
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Iguanas falling from the sky, cats and dogs living together.
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So, okay.
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Meanwhile, pinball.
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Pinball.
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Hey, pinball guys.
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Tell us about yourself, Amanda, and about free play and all that jazz.
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So I am almost pinball legit.
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We have been in this, my husband and I have been in this hobby now for almost five years.
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So I am almost allowed to talk about Dave fix worthy.
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Yep.
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I am almost allowed to talk about it with authority.
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So I run pinball, a free play pinball podcast with bill Webb, who some of your listeners may remember.
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He did, he co-hosted special when lit with Ken Cromwell.
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And he also is on Flippin' Out Monday Night Pinball stream on Twitch.
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And we are kind of a fun show, real laid back.
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We focus on the positivity of pinball.
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There's a lot of guys that do serious shows, but there's not a lot of women in pinball.
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And there's also a lot of focus on the bad when there's so much good and we forget.
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So I try to make it fun.
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Yeah.
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even as long as I've been in it, I'm still very new.
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So there's a lot of me asking silly questions that other people may be embarrassed to ask.
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A lot of cutting up and having fun.
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A lot of talk of how we would build a Harry Potter pinball machine.
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And that's usually if we have to wait on because Bill has nothing to do with that.
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Yeah.
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It's awesome.
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It's something that, that we really love my husband and I do and,
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I kind of attached to it and in doing so, I kind of got attached to a lot of the people involved in it.
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You guys included.
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Yes.
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And I've made some great friends through it.
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Definitely.
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So what was your gateway to pinball?
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Oh, my gateway drug to pinball was my husband and I bought a house and it was in an area that we didn't really have many friends.
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Yeah.
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So we were trying to figure out something we could have at the house to like get people to come over.
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Like we were literally trying to buy friends.
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And in Florida, it's so hot.
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If you don't have a pool, you stay inside.
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So he one day was like, let's get a pinball machine.
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And I'm like, what?
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What?
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So we started playing them.
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We went to a couple of different places and started playing them.
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And we both kind of fell in love with Star Wars, the Stern Star Wars.
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and picked that up and then we picked up a Pirates.
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Did you pick up the Pro, the Premium, the pin?
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Which one?
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We got a Premium.
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Okay.
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Yeah, and it was fun, but I'm not good at pinball and my husband's very good at pinball, so I was really bored a lot waiting for him to finish.
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So we got a second game, which happened to be a Pirates CE.
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For the JJP.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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We like we're, yeah, we, we didn't go home.
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We've got a house.
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We have $15,000 laying around.
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Yeah.
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Well, and I mean, this was when nobody wanted it.
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So we picked it up.
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It was actually, it had like less than five plays on it.
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The guy bought it and turned it on and played a couple of games.
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And his wife walked into the room and was like, Hey, I'm pregnant.
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This is a nursery now.
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And he turned around and sold it to us for like dirt cheap.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Lucky.
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Do you still own it?
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No, but I own two more pins because of it.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Funded two more.
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I miss that
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game so much.
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Two Ellie's from Stern.
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Yeah.
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It got us a new inbox, Yellow Brick Road and a TNA.
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Dang.
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Wow.
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That's impressive.
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Yeah, we did okay with it.
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But yeah, I hated pirates at first and I started watching Eric Menyer from JJP play it on his stream.
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And once I learned how to play and kind of how the rules worked, I really started loving pinball.
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And then it just went downhill from there.
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Like it just got bad.
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You went down the rabbit hole, Alice?
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Yeah, it's one of those ones where we have games in multiple rooms.
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Now it's getting ugly.
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Mm hmm.
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So let's fast forward then, because obviously, I mean, you got into pinball, but then what started free play?
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Like you just one day woke up and you're like, and it's time to do a podcast.
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Kind of.
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Um, special when the head stopped, um, Ken took a position at Jersey Jack.
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So it became a conflict of interest for him to have his independent podcast because he was doing one for the company and Bill and I had become really good friends.
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We never met in person, ironically enough.
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Like we had not met in person, but we would, I was always on their stream talking to him and we would always text back and forth.
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And we finally started talking on the phone and we would literally talk on the phone for hours, multiple days a week about pinball and
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And he reached out to me and he's like, hey, we should do a podcast.
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And I was like, okay.
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I mean, sure, why not?
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And ironically enough, Zach had asked me to be a special guest on the pinball show.
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So I kind of got my feet wet, like trial by fire with Zach.
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And that started it.
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And there was pretty good reception.
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So Bill and I started our show and we've been going for a little over a year now.
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And it's been a blast.
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We've had so much fun.
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And you release on the Pinball Network.
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We do.
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So if you're subscribed to the Pinball Network, it's one of the shows that you'll be getting.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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We try to do a show every two to three weeks.
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I have an incredibly busy schedule and so does Bill.
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So...
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We do what we can.
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I don't want to
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make it work.
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It's something I love, so I don't want to turn this into work.
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But I am part of the Pinball Network.
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I'm actually an administrator for the Pinball Network now.
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So I get to oversee and talk to and meet and collaborate with some of the most amazing content creators outside of the Loser Kids.
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I know.
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We're kind of on an island, aren't we?
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You guys kind of are.
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You guys are on the island, but everybody loves to go visit your island.
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So it's cool.
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It's the fun island.
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It is.
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We love our loser kids.
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It's like Castaway Cay.
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You can't stay there forever, but it's fun to show up every once in a while.
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It is.
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It is.
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It's better than Hotel California, I guess.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Or the island where Pinocchio goes to.
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Oh, the Lost Boys or whatever it was.
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Pleasure Island?
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Yeah, I think it was Pleasure Island.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's not going to be in the remake.
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No.
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Man, I would love to see that.
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Live action pleasure.
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I don't think that's made for the show.
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No, no.
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Seriously.
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You're taking the kids to it.
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You're like, wait, it's X-rated?
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This is not what I remember from the movie.
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Yeah.
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Kids, I think we went to the wrong movie.
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Yeah.
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It's like those memes.
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It's like, I think I downloaded the wrong Hocus Pocus.
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Yeah.
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Hey, by the way, Hocus Pocus, that is a terrible show.
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And then bring it on a sequel.
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Okay, it's a terrible show.
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We watched it last year with our kids.
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I've never seen it.
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And I was like, how is this even a thing?
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It's a terrible show.
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I might have to drop off now because my daughter and I watch Hocus Pocus like year round.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Love it.
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We love it.
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So bye-bye.
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Yeah, it's a cult classic.
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Okay.
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All right, Josh, we're going to drop Amanda.
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And we're just going to get someone else on.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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Well, before we drop her off though, I at least want to talk about how we then got tied in and roped in with Amanda.
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Because she has been very helpful to me, at least.
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Okay.
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This last month or two.
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Okay.
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So you're teasing.
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You're talking about the puzzle pieces that we've been leaking out, right?
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Yes.
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I am talking about the puzzle pieces.
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We are.
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Should we start?
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Let me start from square one.
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Sorry.
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Because that's where my brain.
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No, let's go.
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Piece one.
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Let's do Tarantino style.
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I want to start at the end and work our way back from the beginning.
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It's more Memento.
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It's Christopher Nolan.
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He's the one who first started.
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Or the Seinfeld backwards episode.
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Yes.
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The official reveal is we have been planning a get-together
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at Pinball Expo this upcoming year.
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TPN Loserkid is working together to do a 12 hour stream for autism.
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We're calling it flipping the script on autism.
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It personally affects me.
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This is where we're gonna go back to the beginning now.
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But we want you all to come join us at Pinball Expo.
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We're gonna have guests.
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I'm gonna talk about the two that
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have committed that I know will be there because they live in Chicago.
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We've got like Eric Menear coming on.
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We've got Keith Elwin.
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We've got Stern, JJP, American Pinball, Multimorphic.
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All these people have agreed to donate product.
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We're going to be having signings.
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We're going to be auctioning all this stuff off, and it's going to go directly to Learning Solutions.
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It's a Utah-based autism program that helps give kids with autism one-on-one learning resources.
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So they can learn the basics like social skills, ABA therapy, positive reinforcement, stuff like that.
00:15:14
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Well, back to me, 18 months ago, not 18 months ago, I apologize.
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Yeah, actually it has been 18 months ago.
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Holy crap.
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My son was diagnosed with autism.
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We were told that he had autistic traits and that we should start having him tested.
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Well, a year down the road, after doing all the testing that was required of us and whatnot, they had determined that he had autism.
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And we didn't know where to start because it's one of those words that like you hear often, but if you never had to deal with it, sometimes it's kind of confusing of what it is.
00:15:45
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You kind of maybe label someone as something that you don't fully understand and then you just kind of put it in a box and put it off to the side.
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Well,
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my son, we didn't know where to start.
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And this new startup program, Learning Solutions, had started here in Utah.
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And they said, let's start bringing him here.
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Within two months, he was nonverbal.
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He wasn't communicating at all, even sign language or moving his hands or anything like that.
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We went to, he's actually saying words now.
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He's helping, he's learning to keep his emotions under control.
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You don't know this.
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Usually autistic people, especially the males, have a hard time of keeping emotionally in check when they're young because they have a hard time transitioning from fun things or to whatever it may be.
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And so it's given him the developmental skills that have been amazing.
00:16:34
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It's just been life-changing.
00:16:35
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It's only been a couple months.
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So I wanted to give back to this organization because I figured...
00:16:40
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The pinball community is amazing.
00:16:42
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It kind of ties back to Special One Lit because they did their 24-hour stream.
00:16:46
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Got talking with Ken Cromwell at TPF.
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He said, go for it.
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He said, whatever you need to do, I will help you.
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So it's been fantastic.
00:16:53
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Amanda came in.
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She has given me quite a different perspective because she has dealt with charity stuff as well.
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And it has really helped me on the money side of things.
00:17:03
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And so I know that we're only a couple months into this and we're doing the official reveal now, but I am so appreciative of this community for TPN, for people like Amanda Hamilton, for my co-host Scott Larson.
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George Fisher has been amazing.
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Zach Manny.
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All these people that have just come together.
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We have like 20 plus people involved directly with this between companies and whatnot have all just been fantastic.
00:17:28
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None of them have hesitated.
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They've all stepped up and said, what can we do to help?
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And I just appreciate it.
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And I'm so excited to finally share this with everyone in the community because I want you to come join us.
00:17:38
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I know it's five months away, but it gives you, you don't have the excuse of, well, it's too expensive to go because you can still book a hotel.
00:17:44
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You can still get your plane and come join us.
00:17:47
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Yeah.
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And also we, we reached out to Michael Bernard who did the rush rush art and he did an excellent logo for us and again, donated that.
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So it's been really nice.
00:18:00
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And,
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I love that what we're doing is this is one of the most, the easiest things for us to do emotionally because we don't take any of the money.
00:18:12
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The money is coming in and we are giving it right to the organization.
00:18:16
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And so this is the best part about it is that anytime all these charity things, sometimes it can get a little muddy to, but okay, so who's actually getting the money?
00:18:26
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I love that Josh came to me and said, yeah, we're, I'd like to raise the money for this people.
00:18:30
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And this is all we're doing.
00:18:32
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And I, I'm really excited about it because I know this hits a local organization that really needs the help.
00:18:42
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I'm just thrilled that we were able to get in on this and help out as well.
00:18:47
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I love charity work.
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I'm a very altruistic person.
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I want to help and I love kids.
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And I am in a fortunate position where I have not had to find these resources for myself.
00:19:00
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But just because I don't need them doesn't mean I can't help support them.
00:19:05
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And obviously, we love you guys.
00:19:07
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You guys are friends.
00:19:10
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Josh, when you brought this up to the TPN and it was being discussed, we were on board.
00:19:15
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We were gung-ho, and we were vying for who got to help.
00:19:18
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So George Fisher from Don't Panic Flip, he is offering up his time and his equipment and whatever resources he has available for the stream itself.
00:19:29
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For those of you who have not checked out his stream, I am going to shamelessly plug it.
00:19:33
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His production quality is phenomenal.
00:19:35
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He is very good at this.
00:19:37
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He's fun.
00:19:38
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He's energetic.
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And he just brings so much to the table on that aspect.
00:19:43
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I mean, everybody loves you guys.
00:19:46
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So when we started reaching out to individuals, you had already reached out to some.
00:19:51
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I reached out to some.
00:19:52
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And immediately, as soon as I said, hey, it's Josh from Loser Kid, everybody was like, yes, what can we do?
00:19:59
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Now I will say you plugged a couple of people.
00:20:02
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I also got confirmation today that part of the swag is going to be donated by Flippin' Out, including the Creasel shirt with the little Creasel on it that will be autographed by Dennis himself.
00:20:17
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So I got confirmation from that.
00:20:19
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Today we are working on more donations, auction items, more guests, and
00:20:26
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It's going to be a blast.
00:20:27
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You guys, this is going to be so, so awesome.
00:20:29
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And I mean, I don't think it can be overstated enough.
00:20:33
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100% of all monies raised goes back to this.
00:20:37
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It's nothing is coming to anybody else except for learning solutions to help out with other children.
00:20:44
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Yeah, and I
Expo Fundraiser Activities and Goals
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actually invited a representative from Learning Solutions.
00:20:47
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They're going to be coming up to Chicago with us so that you can hand the money directly to them.
00:20:52
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I'm the kind of person that doesn't like to deal with the government if I don't have to.
00:20:55
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So the less my hands touch money, the better because then it just goes directly to them.
00:21:00
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And then if someone comes to sniff around and says, hey, you go talk to them, I just set it up.
00:21:05
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They took care of it.
00:21:06
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This is actually super easy too because –
00:21:10
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For the other thing I do, the Guatemala trip, we actually had a fundraiser on Saturday, and it was a charity golf tournament.
00:21:18
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And there were so many logistics about all of that going on, which was, you know, my wife's an accountant, so it was great for her to be involved.
00:21:28
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there's a lot of challenges when you're doing fundraising and making sure that the counting is transparent, making sure the money's going where it's supposed to and making sure that everyone is, is getting the things correctly.
00:21:40
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I was, again, I'm, I'm ecstatic that this is about as, as transparent as it possibly can be in that every, every dime that goes in goes to them.
00:21:50
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Yes.
00:21:50
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So we're, I I'm, I'm really excited.
00:21:53
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I was actually, I didn't know if I was going to make expo.
00:21:56
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But when Josh brought this up, I was like, yeah, no, I'm definitely there.
00:22:01
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I'm there for you.
00:22:01
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I'm there for your family.
00:22:03
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And this is a charity that absolutely it means a lot to Josh.
00:22:08
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And therefore, it means a lot to me.
00:22:11
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And I appreciate that very much.
00:22:12
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There's one other person we didn't mention that has actually been helping a lot too.
00:22:15
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Tommy McNichols of Jedi McMuffin.
00:22:19
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It was funny because once we asked him to come on board, he was already spouting out design layouts for the stream and how we're going to do auctions and stuff like that.
00:22:28
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So Tommy's really been a help too.
00:22:31
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And I'm excited.
00:22:32
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I can't wait to do this.
00:22:34
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I've been really nervous about it because...
00:22:37
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You don't know what you do until you get in the pool, right?
00:22:39
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Like you don't know exactly how it's all going to go.
00:22:41
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But once we flip on the lights and get going, I think all the nerves will go away.
Expo Event Logistics and Participation
00:22:46
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But until then, and if you do want to help out, you're more than welcome to reach out to us at LizardKidPinballPodcast at gmail.com.
00:22:53
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We are looking for people to help or to be interviewed, whatnot.
00:22:57
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There are some pretty awesome names of people that want to be interviewed, but I have sworn to secrecy before revealing them because I want...
00:23:07
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because October so far away, they want to make sure that they can make it to expo because they're not from Chicago.
00:23:11
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We'll put it that way.
00:23:12
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Did you get Robert Mueller to come on?
00:23:14
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Oh, you knew we got him out of jail just to come out for this.
00:23:18
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Way to ruin the surprise, Scott.
00:23:20
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You're the worst.
00:23:22
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This is why I dropped Josh's name instead of yours when I was asking for people to do it.
00:23:26
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Josh is actually a nicer guy than I am.
00:23:29
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Okay, Josh, I do want to talk about this though.
00:23:31
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People, when you started putting out the puzzle pieces, so why puzzle pieces?
00:23:37
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What is that significant for autism?
00:23:39
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Tell me about that.
00:23:43
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That's what's funny is people took this as a literal puzzle and the official logo symbol of autism is a puzzle piece.
00:23:54
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Four put together with the four different colors.
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If you notice, our logos are on top of them.
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It's truly about the puzzle pieces and the colors.
00:24:01
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It's all the autism spectrum together.
00:24:04
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And so it's funny because we've had a lot of people that have just been so focused on like
00:24:09
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this puzzle makes no sense because it's not bringing in a bigger image.
00:24:12
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It's just a puzzle.
00:24:13
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No, it's, it's because it's, it's for autism.
00:24:16
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Look at the, look at the logo for autism and that it makes a lot more sense.
00:24:20
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Yes.
00:24:21
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And then, of course, there were the conspiracies that TPN was going to finally absorb the Loser Kids into their empire of greatness.
00:24:33
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Hey, you guys got Reby Hardy.
00:24:36
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You don't need me.
00:24:37
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Trust me on that.
00:24:38
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We have so much amazing talent.
00:24:40
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I love that group.
00:24:42
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And I'm...
00:24:43
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I'm just so glad that there can be the collaboration that there is between.
00:24:47
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And it's not just us.
00:24:48
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There are other large groups of content creators that are also assisting in this and providing information and just resources that we may not have had available or thought of.
00:25:02
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Pinball is a very small community and we band together.
00:25:05
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And the pinball companies are actually stepping up for this too, which is, it's great to say that, hey, you know,
00:25:13
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This is exactly a way of giving back to the community.
00:25:17
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And what better way than a pinball company to be involved?
00:25:21
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So I'm really grateful for all the people at the companies that have stepped up too.
00:25:24
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What's made me chuckle too is like, when I first approached learning solutions about this, I was like, I want to do this for you guys.
00:25:32
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And at first they were hesitant because it's like, no one ever says they want to give us money.
00:25:36
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It's always, can you give us money?
00:25:38
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And I know I want to be the other way around.
00:25:40
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I want to help you guys out.
00:25:42
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You've helped me.
00:25:43
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You're doing life-changing things for my family that I feel like I could never pay back.
00:25:50
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Giving someone a life, making their potential so much more because they're giving them the skills for the life that they need, it's invaluable.
00:26:00
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It's priceless.
00:26:01
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And so I'm like, let me do this for you.
00:26:02
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And it's funny because like I brought up pinball and all this stuff.
00:26:05
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He's like, yeah, sure.
00:26:06
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Well, it was funny because like we get like two, three weeks into like I'm asking people and everyone's on board and I'm telling them everything that's going on.
00:26:12
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And Keith Meeks, who is one of the owners of Learning Solutions, is like, oh, like I didn't realize there was such a community to this.
00:26:17
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Like he's
00:26:19
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He's like, I thought pinball was just something you guys, you know, collected from the 50s and the 60s, a ding, ding, flip, flip, you know?
00:26:25
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And he's like, it's just astounded them, the support that they've seen so far.
00:26:30
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And I'm excited to see how much more support we can get for them because we haven't even done the event yet.
00:26:35
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And they're floored at what we've done for them so far.
00:26:38
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Okay, so I want people to put this on their calendar.
00:26:41
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What date is it, Josh?
00:26:43
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It's October 20th.
00:26:46
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So that's the Thursday of Expo.
00:26:47
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So they always have the fly in Wednesday and have a hot dog.
00:26:51
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And then like Thursday is kind of like we're starting to ramp up, but it doesn't really open till five.
00:26:55
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Well, we will be part of the vendor hall and we will be going at 10 o'clock as soon as the as soon as they open the doors, 10 o'clock to 10 o'clock.
00:27:04
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We will do it the whole time.
00:27:06
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Until the security walks over and shuts off our machines.
00:27:09
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And literally unplugged it.
00:27:11
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Yes.
00:27:11
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And that's 10 a.m.
00:27:12
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to 10 p.m.
00:27:14
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Central time.
00:27:15
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Yeah.
00:27:16
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I stay up.
00:27:16
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I stay up overnight for my job.
00:27:18
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I'm not going to stay up overnight for pinball.
00:27:22
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This is why we don't like you.
00:27:23
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I know.
00:27:24
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It's true.
00:27:25
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I'm just a grumpy old man.
00:27:26
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So it's OK.
00:27:27
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It's OK.
00:27:28
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We'll forgive you this time.
00:27:29
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Thank you.
00:27:30
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Thank you.
00:27:31
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Some of the stuff will only be available at Expo, so you'll need to be there if you want specific items.
00:27:35
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Some
Expo Plans and Charity Segments
00:27:36
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of it, we have got agreement that they're going to ship out.
00:27:39
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So don't feel like you're missing out if you're like Joel Ingerberth and he's like, well, I planned a vacation because it's my anniversary.
00:27:45
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Apparently, my wife's cooler than pinball.
00:27:47
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So, you know.
00:27:49
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We tried to solicit him to ditch his wife for this, but he didn't.
00:27:53
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He kind of likes his wife.
00:27:54
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Something about remaining married, I think, is the reason behind that.
00:27:59
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I think so, too.
00:28:00
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He thought about that for a nanosecond before he said no.
00:28:04
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He's still feeling pretty bad about it, I think.
00:28:07
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I think they will be watching it on their honeymoon or their anniversary trip.
00:28:12
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Probably.
00:28:12
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Probably.
00:28:15
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Probably.
00:28:15
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I know we initially were not planning on going to Expo.
00:28:21
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I work for a major health care system in my area and I work in the information services department, which means that I go in and test all of the equipment, make sure the computers are functional in all of our hospitals.
00:28:31
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We're opening a brand new hospital in October.
00:28:34
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So I unfortunately am going to have to call in sick if that PTO is not approved because I have something pretty awesome that I need to be doing on October 20th.
00:28:44
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We'll definitely have the cough track that you can say.
00:28:49
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Well, I mean, you're a doctor.
00:28:50
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Just write me a note.
00:28:51
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That's true.
00:28:52
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I absolutely will write you a note.
00:28:54
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Be like, she was playing pinball.
00:28:56
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Please excuse Amanda from work.
00:28:59
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She needed to do something important.
00:29:02
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She has pinballonitis and cannot come into work today.
00:29:04
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It's very contagious.
00:29:05
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Pinitis?
00:29:06
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She has pinitis.
00:29:08
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That sounds like it might itch.
00:29:09
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Yeah.
00:29:12
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Some of these comments, we've got to go through these really quick.
00:29:14
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You're bringing out a range of pinball podcast branded jigsaws.
00:29:18
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Yes.
00:29:21
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Calling it, this is Chris Chandler, partners for the JJP launch.
00:29:26
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Sorry, Chris.
00:29:27
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That was a good one.
00:29:28
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Hey, we can consider it, but yeah.
00:29:31
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I guess it could still happen.
00:29:33
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Collaborating with Bon Jovi for a new mom rock pin.
00:29:36
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Yeah.
00:29:37
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That would have been so cool.
00:29:39
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Okay.
00:29:40
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Bon Jovi is not just mom rock.
00:29:42
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Bon Jovi rocks.
00:29:43
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Okay.
00:29:44
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One of them just put profit.
00:29:48
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No, not like prophetic prophet, like money prophet.
00:29:51
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Oh, okay.
00:29:52
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I was like religious?
00:29:54
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Yes, we're going to be the new prophets of pinball.
00:29:56
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Pinball prophet.
00:29:58
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That would be a great band name, prophets of pinball.
00:30:01
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So write that one down.
00:30:03
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Call the Aquabats.
00:30:09
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Scott's relaunching Deep Root.
00:30:12
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Absolutely.
00:30:12
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He's got the hat on right now.
00:30:14
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I do have the hat.
00:30:15
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The hat that Amanda gave me
00:30:18
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But she has been trying to steal it back ever since she gave me the hat.
00:30:21
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Well, I didn't know that all that power was going to go to your head.
00:30:23
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Now you just think that everything is easy.
00:30:25
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Well, what's funny too is like podcasting is easy.
00:30:29
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I heard that.
00:30:30
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Oh, yeah.
00:30:31
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So the puzzle pieces started rolling out.
Community and Sponsor Engagement
00:30:33
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And what's funny, because like Drew from Poor Man's put their logo in one of the pieces.
00:30:38
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And then I was like, well, why not have that?
00:30:39
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Because the idea is we're going to I don't want everyone to sacrifice just a full 12 hours to be on stream.
00:30:46
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So we're going to kind of go through different hosts of different podcasts.
00:30:49
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They're going to interview different people.
00:30:51
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So that way you can still come to the expo.
00:30:53
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Enjoy your time.
00:30:55
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do a little slice for autism and then go about the rest of your day.
00:30:59
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And so I called up Drew and I was like, Drew, this is what we're doing.
00:31:03
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And he's like, if I'm there, I'm on board.
00:31:05
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He's like, you pencil me in.
00:31:07
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He's like, I know it's five months away, but let's, let's see what we can do.
00:31:10
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So it's funny.
00:31:11
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Cause like Drew, just simply doing the puzzle piece of poor man's in there.
00:31:15
Speaker
Give me an idea of like, well, I'll call him then.
00:31:17
Speaker
So I, I hope the drew wears his shirt that says Tim Lee sucks a pinball.
00:31:23
Speaker
Well, Tim Lee is going to be there wearing his Drew sucks at pinball.
00:31:26
Speaker
So I say we put them on a couch together and see how this plays out or get them like some of those giant inflatable boxing gloves.
00:31:33
Speaker
And we can turn this into a charity boxing match for autism.
00:31:36
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure Glenn has one that says I'm better than y'all.
00:31:40
Speaker
So probably it's on the bottom of his skateboard.
00:31:44
Speaker
Yes.
00:31:45
Speaker
So definitely if you can make it, we would love to have you guys, anybody who's interested, definitely we'll get more information out, but I'm really excited that we are doing this and I'm excited for everybody who is really rallied behind Josh and something that's near and dear to his heart.
00:32:03
Speaker
And I don't know of anybody who doesn't like Josh.
00:32:06
Speaker
I'm sure there is some person out there, but I haven't met him yet.
00:32:09
Speaker
So there's a couple.
00:32:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:12
Speaker
I thought you took care of them already.
00:32:15
Speaker
Yeah, he had them silenced.
00:32:18
Speaker
Exactly right.
00:32:20
Speaker
Put them in Facebook jail for the rest of their lives.
00:32:23
Speaker
Nice.
00:32:24
Speaker
Now this is, this is going to be awesome.
00:32:27
Speaker
Just, I I'm so getting knowing who we have commitments of showing up if they are going to be able to make it to expo.
00:32:36
Speaker
And again, I mean, nobody is guaranteeing anything anymore because COVID and you know, and now apparently like monkey pox.
00:32:46
Speaker
Yes.
00:32:46
Speaker
That was not on my bingo card.
00:32:48
Speaker
I'm so mad.
00:32:49
Speaker
But, you know, it's the people that have verbally committed this far out already.
00:32:55
Speaker
Just it gives me goosebumps thinking how much fun this is going to be.
00:32:58
Speaker
And you guys get to do like a live stream with your third co-host.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:05
Speaker
So that's going to be fun.
00:33:08
Speaker
Thank you guys again for letting us borrow him for an episode.
00:33:10
Speaker
He was a good time.
00:33:12
Speaker
We let him out every once in a while.
00:33:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:15
Speaker
Custody battle gets a little ugly if you don't.
00:33:17
Speaker
It does, yeah.
00:33:18
Speaker
It does.
00:33:20
Speaker
Poor Keith.
00:33:23
Speaker
No, it's going to be so awesome.
00:33:25
Speaker
And I mean, some of the items that have been committed for this, these are literally one of a kind items that you're never going to see anywhere else unless somebody like hacks it on eBay.
00:33:37
Speaker
There's going to be some really cool stuff.
00:33:39
Speaker
There's going to be some stuff that is not super expensive that you can purchase at the table we are working on.
00:33:46
Speaker
So that...
00:33:48
Speaker
We don't want people to feel like if they bid on it, they have to be able to afford only LEs.
00:33:54
Speaker
Like this is something we want to raise money for in as many ways as possible.
00:33:59
Speaker
We want people to have something to show for the fact that they did this besides just pictures of the groups.
00:34:05
Speaker
And it's just going to be so awesome.
00:34:09
Speaker
I'm so excited.
00:34:10
Speaker
I'm ready for October.
00:34:12
Speaker
Me too.
00:34:13
Speaker
Actually, my wife is coming with me, which is a big development.
00:34:16
Speaker
So I'm pretty excited about that as well.
00:34:18
Speaker
Yes, that is going to be so awesome.
00:34:21
Speaker
So she's like a trip to Chicago, I guess.
00:34:23
Speaker
If you're going to twist my arm.
00:34:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's October.
00:34:27
Speaker
Who doesn't want to go to Chicago in October?
00:34:29
Speaker
Exactly.
00:34:30
Speaker
I guess that pretty much wraps it up.
00:34:31
Speaker
Well, you'll be hearing more from us.
00:34:33
Speaker
We're going to be pushing this pretty hard for the next couple months.
00:34:36
Speaker
Do come join us.
00:34:37
Speaker
We will be happy to hang out with you and chit chat and we'll have plenty of swag, it sounds like, too.
00:34:45
Speaker
We're working on that.
00:34:47
Speaker
And I mean, I'll even let people beat me at pinball if they want to come and donate.
00:34:51
Speaker
Yes.
00:34:52
Speaker
Well, speaking of Scott's attempts to buy pinball companies like Deep Root, I saw that you are posting stuff on their website now to bring back Deep Root from the dead.
00:35:03
Speaker
Okay.
00:35:05
Speaker
It has to be a joke, right?
00:35:06
Speaker
There's no chance this is legit.
Question: Deep Root Pinball's Resurrection?
00:35:09
Speaker
Well, considering Nap Arcade had posted that the crossword puzzle said pinball is easy in it.
00:35:15
Speaker
Right.
00:35:16
Speaker
It also said fire and brimstone.
00:35:18
Speaker
I looked at that earlier.
00:35:20
Speaker
It looked like a Zodiac killer thing.
00:35:26
Speaker
It looked like a ransom note.
00:35:28
Speaker
So is Deep Root coming back?
00:35:32
Speaker
Or do you think they at least try to profit off of the... How many prototypes were there?
00:35:36
Speaker
What did they say?
00:35:37
Speaker
Like three, four?
00:35:38
Speaker
Even if they finish the code on those?
00:35:41
Speaker
It's certainly rare.
00:35:42
Speaker
Okay, there would be a level of collectability because those old magic girls from Zidware are out there somewhere.
00:35:50
Speaker
Well, and there's those guys over in Europe that have finished the code for Magic Girl, too, to get them playing.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:55
Speaker
They'd actually have to change the layout, but sure.
00:35:58
Speaker
But the... Yeah.
00:36:01
Speaker
And so, like, hey, trust me.
00:36:03
Speaker
There are tons of people who are willing to buy this kind of stuff.
00:36:06
Speaker
But, man, I just cannot see it ever really doing anything.
00:36:11
Speaker
So you're not cashing in the 401k and buying out their company, huh?
00:36:16
Speaker
No.
00:36:18
Speaker
I would buy...
00:36:19
Speaker
I would buy a real company, not a fake company.
00:36:22
Speaker
Well, honestly, you don't have to cash out your 401k for it.
00:36:26
Speaker
I mean, it was like pennies on the dollar, wasn't it?
00:36:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's okay.
00:36:30
Speaker
No, I'm good.
00:36:31
Speaker
I'm good.
00:36:32
Speaker
It would just go to filthy lucre.
00:36:36
Speaker
So you have no faith in this, Scott?
00:36:37
Speaker
No, I have zero faith.
00:36:39
Speaker
No, absolutely.
00:36:40
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:41
Speaker
Do you think anybody in pinball would really want to?
00:36:44
Speaker
When they were trying to sell them, they barely had over a hundred people who wanted to buy Raza.
00:36:50
Speaker
And most of them were just like committed to dealers who were planning on reselling them.
00:36:57
Speaker
So there's zero desire to resurrect this thing.
00:37:02
Speaker
They have some hope when Jesus was there, but when he disappeared.
00:37:05
Speaker
Oh, Jesus.
00:37:06
Speaker
Where did Jesus go?
00:37:08
Speaker
Did anybody find that out?
00:37:10
Speaker
I think Blueberry Johnson said that he went back to Robert Mueller's personal collection.
00:37:15
Speaker
He said that was a personal item.
00:37:17
Speaker
Oh, you mean the Jesus painting?
00:37:18
Speaker
The Jesus picture.
00:37:19
Speaker
Oh, yeah, the picture.
00:37:20
Speaker
Yeah, jeez.
00:37:22
Speaker
Somebody needed to take the backing off of that and look for all the offshore account numbers.
00:37:25
Speaker
That's all I'm saying.
00:37:27
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:28
Speaker
So Jesus was hiding it in the tomb, sadly.
00:37:30
Speaker
That's, yeah.
00:37:32
Speaker
Knowing Mueller, though, that painting is, that is a standard painting you can find in any Latter-day Saints church.
00:37:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:38
Speaker
Like building.
00:37:39
Speaker
I wonder if he just stole it off the wall from church.
00:37:41
Speaker
He probably just took it after he stole the people's money from church.
00:37:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:45
Speaker
This would be great in my office.
00:37:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:48
Speaker
Next to the casting couch.
00:37:50
Speaker
Exactly.
00:37:50
Speaker
Jeez.
00:37:51
Speaker
Jeez.
00:37:52
Speaker
is watching over you.
00:37:54
Speaker
When he got a second and third wife.
00:37:56
Speaker
Oh my.
00:37:59
Speaker
Oh my goodness.
00:38:00
Speaker
I'm saying it's a weird story, but yeah, I
00:38:05
Speaker
Again, move on, move on.
00:38:07
Speaker
There's nothing more to see here, kids.
00:38:08
Speaker
It's like Austin Powers when that lady won't die.
00:38:11
Speaker
Why won't you die?
00:38:13
Speaker
It's like this bad 80s action film thing where at the very end, the Terminator shows up again.
00:38:20
Speaker
Oh, I know we hit you with a nuclear bomb, but you're still alive.
00:38:24
Speaker
At least he gave you the thumbs up as he was going down the end of the loft.
00:38:27
Speaker
Exactly.
00:38:28
Speaker
The molten metal.
00:38:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:30
Speaker
Well, he even said he would be back.
00:38:32
Speaker
I mean, come on.
00:38:33
Speaker
You had warning.
00:38:33
Speaker
I'll be back.
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:35
Speaker
Oh, boy.
00:38:37
Speaker
But we haven't heard much from Mueller.
00:38:38
Speaker
So it kind of shocked us when we did hear Deep Root was kind of coming back.
00:38:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah.
Question: Pokemon-themed Pinball Machine Success?
00:38:44
Speaker
Robert.
00:38:45
Speaker
Well, I think Robert right now is probably being told by his actual lawyer to shut up.
00:38:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:52
Speaker
Oh, my goodness.
00:38:52
Speaker
All right.
00:38:53
Speaker
Let's move on to some.
00:38:55
Speaker
I'm excited for this.
00:38:56
Speaker
I don't know if you guys have been watching Facebook or whatnot.
00:38:59
Speaker
You're reading into the Pokemon thing at all.
00:39:01
Speaker
You know, Gary Stern raising his hands up with a Pikachu and a Mew.
00:39:06
Speaker
I know I'm going way too nerdy for you guys.
00:39:08
Speaker
Is this too much?
00:39:09
Speaker
Is this like... If they don't have a Charizard wizard mode, it doesn't need to be made.
00:39:14
Speaker
Exactly.
00:39:15
Speaker
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
00:39:17
Speaker
I want to see Jigglypuff bouncing around during a multiball too.
00:39:20
Speaker
I've never played Pokemon...
00:39:23
Speaker
That's fine.
00:39:23
Speaker
You only need to play the first one.
00:39:25
Speaker
Honestly, the first 151 of them are the most iconic.
00:39:28
Speaker
Okay.
00:39:31
Speaker
Isn't that like Japanese dogfighting?
00:39:33
Speaker
Isn't that basically Pokemon?
00:39:35
Speaker
No.
00:39:36
Speaker
Not really?
00:39:37
Speaker
No.
00:39:38
Speaker
Don't you have some magical creature that you play cards and they fight each other?
00:39:44
Speaker
Okay, how amazing would that be if they got Ryan Reynolds to narrate the whole thing as Pikachu?
00:39:49
Speaker
Okay, yeah.
00:39:49
Speaker
See, that would be good.
00:39:50
Speaker
I'd pay for that.
00:39:51
Speaker
Actually, I thought the movie was funny that way.
00:39:54
Speaker
And then every time you have a ball that gets locked, it goes into the Pokeball.
00:39:58
Speaker
Yes.
00:39:59
Speaker
Oh, my goodness.
00:39:59
Speaker
This game literally writes itself.
00:40:01
Speaker
It does.
00:40:02
Speaker
Go me.
00:40:02
Speaker
And it does help that there was a Pokemon pinball game made at one point, too.
00:40:06
Speaker
So, come on.
00:40:09
Speaker
Where's our game at?
00:40:10
Speaker
I need this.
00:40:12
Speaker
You need a Pokemon.
00:40:13
Speaker
If Pokemon Go can make $5 billion in four years, I think that this can have a chance.
00:40:19
Speaker
I mean, seriously, come on now.
00:40:21
Speaker
Wasn't that people like running around like geocaching Pokemon basically?
00:40:26
Speaker
Essentially, yes.
00:40:27
Speaker
They still are.
00:40:29
Speaker
Oh, they are?
00:40:29
Speaker
There was a big event this weekend.
00:40:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:32
Speaker
If you were in Chicago, I think that's where it was or I don't know.
00:40:36
Speaker
Did they have enough pretend Pokemons for everybody to catch?
00:40:40
Speaker
They're not pretend.
00:40:41
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:40:43
Speaker
They're reeling your phone.
00:40:44
Speaker
Dang it.
00:40:44
Speaker
It's like Bitcoin and Pokemon's the new Bitcoin.
00:40:49
Speaker
It's like Raza, you know, just because you don't have one doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
00:40:54
Speaker
That is true.
00:40:55
Speaker
That is true.
00:40:57
Speaker
But unlike Raza, you can actually take a picture of your Pokemon in the real world, and then it's like you're there with them.
00:41:04
Speaker
But no, seriously, this is the number one grossing franchise of all time, $92 billion as of 2019.
00:41:12
Speaker
I think it's a safe bet.
00:41:13
Speaker
I could be wrong.
00:41:14
Speaker
Maybe it's because it's hard when it's an Eastern theme because I think when we think of Western themes or just on max slam dunks, right?
00:41:22
Speaker
Like even these, these cult titles that people throw out like, uh, uh, evil dead or big trouble in little China.
00:41:31
Speaker
I don't know what some of these other cult ones.
00:41:33
Speaker
Goonies.
00:41:34
Speaker
Goonies, 16 candles.
00:41:36
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:41:38
Speaker
Those don't hold a candle to Pokemon and how much money they've made.
00:41:42
Speaker
So I bet you could at least make, I don't know, 500 of these with no problem.
00:41:50
Speaker
I think the cool thing about the Pokemon idea too, though, is Scott, you might be a little too old to remember Pokemon cards back in the day.
00:41:59
Speaker
Cause like I was on the cusp of being a little too old for it, but they had like magic, the gathering cards, but these are different.
00:42:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:08
Speaker
I, I never, I wasn't smart enough to like, there's a, even though I'm an engineer also, there's, there's a level of like,
00:42:17
Speaker
complex nerdity that I could never understand.
00:42:21
Speaker
I just wasn't smart enough for that.
00:42:23
Speaker
Fun fact really quick before we transition back to Amanda.
00:42:27
Speaker
Wizards of the Coast that make Magic the Gathering cards actually did the first run of Pokemon cards.
00:42:31
Speaker
Oh, there you go.
00:42:32
Speaker
So.
00:42:33
Speaker
Nice.
00:42:34
Speaker
Anyhow, back to you.
00:42:35
Speaker
No, I was going to say, you know, I think Pokemon has a really good chance of doing well, even more than 500 units, because our generation, and I'm looking at Josh more than Scott, we had these growing up, we watched the shows growing up, and now our kids are in it again.
00:42:54
Speaker
Like, my daughter's eight, and she has probably...
00:42:57
Speaker
probably three or four hundred pokemon cards like i don't even i didn't even realize there were that many pokemon now yeah same with my son too baby brother who's three years younger than me so i'm not telling you guys how old i am but just know that he's old enough to rent a car um and then some he still has his pokemon cards from when he was a kid
00:43:19
Speaker
And like there's just this cult following people want these cards.
00:43:22
Speaker
People watch the shows.
00:43:23
Speaker
They're doing the Pokemon Go.
00:43:25
Speaker
It's bringing families together.
00:43:26
Speaker
It's getting people outside.
00:43:27
Speaker
It'd be a great game.
00:43:29
Speaker
And you're catching things in Pokeballs.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yes.
00:43:32
Speaker
Pinball.
00:43:33
Speaker
You would have to do the original 150, the first generation.
00:43:37
Speaker
You would.
00:43:38
Speaker
You would.
00:43:38
Speaker
There is over 913 Pokemon with a new game coming out with more Pokemon being put into the thing.
00:43:44
Speaker
There's no way you could include all 900 of them.
00:43:46
Speaker
And no one's going to know what the – there's a literal trash can with eyes and a mouth.
00:43:53
Speaker
Or a trash bag.
00:43:54
Speaker
Oscar the Grouch?
00:43:55
Speaker
No, it's just a Pokemon.
00:43:56
Speaker
It's literally a trash bag with like trash flowing out of it for its arms and legs.
Question: Street-Level Games Viability?
00:44:02
Speaker
So they've gotten desperate.
00:44:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:04
Speaker
Well, and there's an ice cream cone too with eyes and a face.
00:44:07
Speaker
So you see what I'm saying?
00:44:09
Speaker
Like the original are iconic.
00:44:10
Speaker
We're kind of getting to a point of like, I don't think these are Pokemon anymore.
00:44:14
Speaker
I think you're grasping at straws.
00:44:17
Speaker
They've genetically modified all of the critters known to man.
00:44:20
Speaker
We're now using inanimate objects.
00:44:23
Speaker
That's a chandelier.
00:44:24
Speaker
That is not my good story.
00:44:25
Speaker
That is a Pokemon.
00:44:26
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:44:28
Speaker
Well, now they're just using whatever they're finding the Pokemon on on Pokemon Go.
00:44:33
Speaker
And they're like, oh, well, there's one over there on that water fountain.
00:44:36
Speaker
Well, now it's a Pokemon.
00:44:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:38
Speaker
No, please stop.
00:44:40
Speaker
Do you really love lamp?
00:44:41
Speaker
Are you just looking around the room and saying that you love?
00:44:44
Speaker
Exactly.
00:44:46
Speaker
I have a water bottle here.
00:44:48
Speaker
We're good.
00:44:50
Speaker
Oh, boy.
00:44:50
Speaker
It'll get silly.
00:44:52
Speaker
All right.
00:44:55
Speaker
I don't know how we're going to transition from that to this, but we're going to anyway.
00:44:58
Speaker
Did you know John Norris is looking for work?
00:45:01
Speaker
He just recently posted today.
00:45:04
Speaker
I saw that.
00:45:05
Speaker
Okay.
00:45:06
Speaker
So what do you think about that?
00:45:08
Speaker
Tell me some John Norris games.
00:45:11
Speaker
Have you seen this, Amanda?
00:45:12
Speaker
Have you seen the layout and everything?
00:45:14
Speaker
I have not.
00:45:14
Speaker
I have been MIA because of work.
00:45:16
Speaker
So when you sent notes and I saw that, I actually meant to look it up and it kind of shocked me a little bit, but okay.
00:45:26
Speaker
I just sent it over and Scott and I will talk about first and then you can kind of get a sneak peek.
00:45:31
Speaker
I think it's hard in this day and age to do a street level game.
00:45:34
Speaker
I'm just going to put that out there.
00:45:37
Speaker
TNA is the exception to the rule.
00:45:39
Speaker
Well, TNA and Beatles are probably outliers, but they're kind of a niche retro feel game.
00:45:47
Speaker
And TNA is really all about Scott Denisi's soundtrack.
00:45:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's a fun game.
00:45:55
Speaker
It's a party game, but it really is about the soundtrack that draws you in.
00:46:00
Speaker
And the Beatles, that's a re-theme.
00:46:02
Speaker
And so they were able to modify it.
00:46:05
Speaker
And yes, even the Beatles is all about that street-level nostalgia.
00:46:10
Speaker
Do we really think there's much appetite for a street-level game?
00:46:13
Speaker
I don't.
00:46:14
Speaker
I don't.
00:46:15
Speaker
Because it costs roughly the same as a standard game.
00:46:20
Speaker
And I agree with you, TNA, the soundtrack to a point.
00:46:23
Speaker
Because play that game with the sound on and then play with it off.
00:46:26
Speaker
It's weird.
00:46:28
Speaker
We did that at Expo because someone had the sound off to a TNA.
00:46:30
Speaker
And I don't know why.
00:46:32
Speaker
But we're playing this and it's like, this is weird.
00:46:34
Speaker
It just doesn't feel right.
00:46:35
Speaker
It's not as fun.
00:46:38
Speaker
The sound immersion is so intrinsic to that game.
00:46:41
Speaker
But the other appeal of TNA is also like the stealing of the locks.
00:46:45
Speaker
And there's kind of a brutality to that game that you can find in older games.
00:46:51
Speaker
But it's like made specifically to compete with other people for dollars or whatever.
00:46:58
Speaker
So I think that's the appeal of TNA.
00:47:00
Speaker
I could be wrong.
00:47:02
Speaker
I was going to say, I think part of the appeal with TNA too is it's a game where you don't have to know the rules very much.
00:47:08
Speaker
You prime the reactor quickly.
00:47:11
Speaker
You make the reactor critical.
00:47:13
Speaker
You blow the reactor up.
00:47:15
Speaker
Literally, I just explained the rules to TNA2.
00:47:17
Speaker
Now go do it nine times.
00:47:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:20
Speaker
You know, so it's got that unattainability.
00:47:22
Speaker
But Scott did such a good job.
00:47:24
Speaker
That's one of my favorite games.
00:47:25
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I love street level games.
00:47:26
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I'm going to put that out there.
00:47:28
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I love it.
00:47:28
Speaker
But would you buy that or a, you know, for $6,500, $7,000, would you buy that or a Stern Pro Godzilla?
00:47:40
Speaker
Well, I mean, I don't need a Stern Pro Godzilla because I have an Ellie sitting in there.
00:47:44
Speaker
Ouch.
00:47:44
Speaker
Wow.
00:47:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:45
Speaker
I mean, I have a TNA.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:48
Speaker
You know, let me just throw this one down there.
00:47:50
Speaker
No, but I mean, I have TNA.
00:47:51
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It's one of my favorite games.
00:47:52
Speaker
I would love a Beatles.
00:47:55
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I do like that kind of single street level layout.
00:47:58
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I think it's kind of fun.
00:47:59
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It's challenging.
00:48:00
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It's different.
00:48:01
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It's neat what they can do with ramps.
00:48:02
Speaker
It's neat what they can do with bash toys and, you know, subways and whatnot.
00:48:05
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But the fact that you can put that much of a game together.
00:48:09
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in one, one dimensional area.
00:48:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:12
Speaker
I think that's kind of neat to do it on the plane.
00:48:14
Speaker
Now looking at this, do I think it would work?
00:48:16
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No, because it's a terrible layout that has way too much crap going on it.
00:48:20
Speaker
Wow.
00:48:21
Speaker
Shots fired.
00:48:22
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Okay.
00:48:23
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Yeah.
00:48:24
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I don't think it's a terrible design.
00:48:26
Speaker
The problem is you can't... Street level's hard in our day and age because we do expect ramps.
00:48:32
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We do expect the pizzazz and the rule set and whatnot.
00:48:36
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I think if you can do a street level game at a really competitive price, like a super competitive price, it might have appeal.
00:48:44
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But looking at this design, I've kind of stared at it off and on again through the day.
00:48:50
Speaker
It's not bad.
00:48:52
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I think it could be really fun.
00:48:54
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Like I said, I think the problem is, is we've progressed to the point of can street level games that are brand new out of the box really compete with everything else that's out on the market.
00:49:07
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Even for a startup company.
00:49:08
Speaker
I just look at look at pinball mafia.
00:49:10
Speaker
They made the mafia pinball or team the team pinball team pinball that made mafia.
00:49:15
Speaker
There we go.
00:49:17
Speaker
Did they even sell 100?
00:49:18
Speaker
Did they even sell 20?
00:49:19
Speaker
I think they sold 10.
00:49:21
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Yeah, I just, I don't know if there's much competition or there's much demand for it.
00:49:27
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And like I said, with Beatles, it was Beatles.
00:49:30
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And they didn't even sell the 1966.
00:49:32
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I think they finally did, what, four years later.
00:49:35
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Yeah, it was a slow burn.
00:49:37
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Absolutely.
00:49:39
Speaker
Well, it shocked us when Kim Kamekau came on our show and he's like, well, there's still some available.
00:49:43
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And even people in the pinball community was like, wait, what?
00:49:46
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Yeah, I bought one when that came out.
00:49:49
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I was like, you know, I really want one.
00:49:51
Speaker
Okay, so when I'm looking at this game, yes, it feels very much like a...
00:49:57
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A 1977 era game.
00:50:01
Speaker
Like it's on that early solid state EM transition.
00:50:07
Speaker
It could be.
00:50:09
Speaker
It's really hard because when you're looking at the layout, you don't really know how it will play.
00:50:15
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But I'm just wondering, I think it would fit well in that era, but I just don't know if it commercially can compete when you could buy a Genie for $2,000.
00:50:25
Speaker
I find it interesting that a lot of the shots don't actually come back at the flippers.
00:50:29
Speaker
Everything has been actually shifted so it shoots out to the edge of the pinball, like the outlanes.
00:50:36
Speaker
It's not outlanes because there's lots of catch-up.
00:50:38
Speaker
Okay, but that's kind of how those games were, though.
00:50:41
Speaker
You really had to nudge them to get it.
00:50:44
Speaker
You didn't really have much safe returns.
00:50:45
Speaker
You always had that risk of it going to the outlane.
00:50:49
Speaker
Yeah, but if I want that, I'm going to buy a Borg game, you know?
00:50:52
Speaker
But if you're looking at this, they're almost all safe returns, except for like the far, even the far left orbit comes and it goes by that power scoop and it aims towards, like there's spots that catch it and kind of bring it back to your flippers.
00:51:05
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You see what I'm saying?
00:51:07
Speaker
I mean, he, now this isn't John Norris's first game.
00:51:10
Speaker
So I actually had to look up John Norris because I wasn't as familiar with his
00:51:16
Speaker
his work however i'm just going down the ones that i i certainly have heard of bad girls lights camera action um cactus jack surf and safari super mario brother street fighter 2 gladiators those those are all some of the best gottlieb games made rescue 9-1-1 freddie nightmare on elm street shack attack big hurt
00:51:42
Speaker
Okay, you need to stop now because... Well, no, and I don't want to be a downer here, but I would say that none of these are really... They're not grand slams.
00:51:54
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They're not great.
00:51:55
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They're not amazing games.
00:51:57
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And so I think it would be different if you had someone who had more success with selling games to be able to say, hey, I'm going to try this thing out.
00:52:10
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than that people should take a shot on.
00:52:12
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But all of those games, I mean, we've all played them, but I don't know of any of those that say, wow, I really want to have this in my home.
00:52:22
Speaker
And so that's where I feel it's risky to take a risk for any pinball company out there to try to manufacture this.
00:52:34
Speaker
So I don't think it's going to happen.
00:52:37
Speaker
Do you think that we've become overly spoiled in the past three or four years with just there's been a lot of games that have come out and there have been a lot of them that are very good?
00:52:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:49
Speaker
They're fun shooters.
00:52:50
Speaker
They have great layouts.
00:52:51
Speaker
There's toys.
00:52:52
Speaker
There's gimmicks.
00:52:53
Speaker
There's mechs.
00:52:54
Speaker
There's sounds and lights and all of the, you know, we're just so involved in these games now.
00:53:01
Speaker
I wonder if TNA would have sold all of its units if it came out today versus when Scott released it or Spooky released it, you know, after Scott designed it.
00:53:12
Speaker
Right.
00:53:14
Speaker
We're spoiled now.
00:53:15
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I think, I think it still would have, but Tour de France is not going to have that same sort of like auditory immersion that TNA had.
00:53:25
Speaker
Right.
00:53:26
Speaker
And so it could, it could, this is just a design and he's suggested what the theme should be.
00:53:32
Speaker
What could you, sure.
00:53:33
Speaker
What could you, what theme could you possibly put?
00:53:36
Speaker
Like what music could you possibly put with this layout to say it's relevant?
00:53:44
Speaker
Ooh, Bon Jovi.
00:53:45
Speaker
Oh, but at French.
00:53:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:49
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:53:50
Speaker
Unless they get Daft Punk, which are French.
00:53:52
Speaker
Yeah, to actually come back into a Champs Elysees, the Tour de France soundtrack, then maybe.
00:54:01
Speaker
I don't see why not playing.
00:54:03
Speaker
Dof Punk to this.
00:54:04
Speaker
I think a good music-based pin, and this claims it's very fast playing.
00:54:10
Speaker
I think you do some good techno music with fast playing.
00:54:13
Speaker
I don't know.
00:54:14
Speaker
I think you're good to go.
00:54:15
Speaker
Okay, but the Tour de France, okay, I'm just going off the theme.
00:54:20
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The whole reason why the Tour de France was a big thing, in addition to Lance Armstrong, but it was a
00:54:28
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you would put it on TV and you would see these amazing helicopter flybys all over France.
00:54:35
Speaker
I mean, it felt like a travel video.
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:39
Speaker
You were just seeing all these breathtaking landscapes from France, but you know, I don't know how that translates to this.
00:54:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's true.
00:54:48
Speaker
I don't know.
00:54:48
Speaker
Like I said, it's just the thing that he slapped on it.
00:54:51
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He claims there should be 19 modes in it.
00:54:53
Speaker
I think if a startup company bought this and rethemed it to something that's, uh,
00:54:58
Speaker
Maybe.
00:54:58
Speaker
More contemporary.
00:54:59
Speaker
Maybe it has a fighting chance.
00:55:01
Speaker
I just, I don't know.
00:55:02
Speaker
Maybe it's Deep Roots comeback game.
00:55:04
Speaker
Maybe.
00:55:05
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:55:06
Speaker
So if you're looking for someone to hire, if you want to design, it's got low bomb.
00:55:10
Speaker
That's what it says.
00:55:11
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He's looking for a job, looking for something.
00:55:14
Speaker
So that would be something.
00:55:17
Speaker
So that low bomb thing gets me, though.
00:55:19
Speaker
Is it low bomb as in truly a low bomb?
00:55:21
Speaker
Or is it going to be low bomb as in this is going to cost you what a Stern Pro cost three years ago?
00:55:27
Speaker
Right.
00:55:27
Speaker
Define low build of materials.
00:55:29
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:55:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:30
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low bomb street level play field.
00:55:32
Speaker
It's very specific.
00:55:33
Speaker
No, I don't know.
00:55:36
Speaker
I, I, I wish him all the success in the world.
00:55:39
Speaker
Um, this is not something that I'm interested in.
00:55:43
Speaker
So I don't know, Josh, you interested, Amanda, you interested?
00:55:46
Speaker
Uh, probably not.
00:55:49
Speaker
No.
00:55:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:51
Speaker
Like I said, it's so hard to compete with what's out there right now.
00:55:54
Speaker
You know, we always talk about pinball transitioned like in the late 70s to the 80s when it went solid state.
00:55:59
Speaker
And then you transition again from the DMD from the late 80s to the early 90s.
00:56:04
Speaker
And then you've got the newer stuff when Stern happened in the 2000s.
00:56:09
Speaker
I really feel like we've hit a transition and the rest of the industry is trying to catch up at this point.
00:56:15
Speaker
I think for how much you can buy a street level game for doesn't compare to buying it new out of the box.
00:56:22
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:56:23
Speaker
You can still get stars.
Haggis Pinball's Success and Transparency
00:56:25
Speaker
You can still get Meteor for under $2,000.
00:56:29
Speaker
Depending if you have it shipped and whatnot.
00:56:31
Speaker
And if you want a new street level, you can buy Beatles.
00:56:34
Speaker
Yeah, or TNA, because Spooky's always threatened to remake those.
00:56:38
Speaker
But they're floating around too.
00:56:40
Speaker
It's not super hard to get hands on a TNA.
00:56:43
Speaker
You'd be surprised.
00:56:44
Speaker
When we got ours, we struggled to find one.
00:56:46
Speaker
We really did.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yep.
00:56:48
Speaker
I want to talk about definitely one more thing.
00:56:50
Speaker
Haggis.
00:56:51
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I'm excited for them.
00:56:52
Speaker
They've shipped a couple of games now.
00:56:54
Speaker
Fathom showing up.
00:56:55
Speaker
I know I've got plenty of friends that have gotten their Celts.
00:56:58
Speaker
They are loving them.
00:57:00
Speaker
I'm actually kind of jealous because our friend Steven Strom, who lives down in Vegas now, got his Celts and that thing looks super sweet.
00:57:09
Speaker
I know.
00:57:09
Speaker
I want to go crash his house.
00:57:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:11
Speaker
I know.
00:57:12
Speaker
I, Steve may not let me in, but Doreen will.
00:57:15
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:57:16
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So, um, I know there's some hesitation out there.
00:57:20
Speaker
People are kind of getting like a little concerned about Haggis putting out product.
00:57:23
Speaker
I don't see a problem.
00:57:26
Speaker
And they're comparing them to other startup companies.
00:57:28
Speaker
Deep root never made a machine.
00:57:30
Speaker
So like, it's hard to compare when deep root wasn't a real company.
00:57:34
Speaker
Okay.
00:57:34
Speaker
So let's just throw deep root out.
00:57:36
Speaker
The other companies that are actual real companies made an honest attempt.
00:57:41
Speaker
Yes.
00:57:42
Speaker
And with Haggis, they made Celts.
00:57:45
Speaker
And yes, this was a first, it was an excellent first run thing.
00:57:50
Speaker
And then they have the, the Fathom remake.
00:57:54
Speaker
I'm super excited to play the Fathom remake.
00:57:57
Speaker
I want to put my hands on one.
00:57:58
Speaker
It looks great.
00:58:00
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:01
Speaker
And fingers crossed, if everything works out, hopefully we'll see them at Expo.
00:58:05
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Because I know we'll be there.
00:58:06
Speaker
Yes.
00:58:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:08
Speaker
I mean, Damien's got enthusiasm for this.
00:58:10
Speaker
And I get like he was very, very transparent at the beginning.
00:58:13
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How many times a week can you really come back on and say, hey, we're still facing the same problems everyone else is.
00:58:20
Speaker
People are still having a rough time getting cars.
00:58:21
Speaker
Like I talked to a guy two weeks ago that went to go get a truck.
00:58:25
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And like, well, we don't have the chip to do like the adaptive cruise control.
00:58:28
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And he's like, I don't care.
00:58:29
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I just want my car.
00:58:30
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well, we don't have this chip to do this.
00:58:32
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And he's like, I don't care.
00:58:33
Speaker
I just want my car.
00:58:34
Speaker
And so it's not just pinball that's being affected.
00:58:38
Speaker
We're still seeing this problem of people not getting their product.
00:58:43
Speaker
I mean, that's part of why Stern pushed back their cornerstone.
00:58:46
Speaker
It's just they've got parts in-house that they can finish these products and
00:58:52
Speaker
Well, you're not going to ship something out that says, hey, we have 98% of your car.
00:58:57
Speaker
We don't have the steering wheel, but everything else is fine.
00:58:59
Speaker
So just throw a vice grip on it.
00:59:00
Speaker
It's fine.
00:59:01
Speaker
It'll be fine.
00:59:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's fine.
00:59:02
Speaker
It's fine.
00:59:04
Speaker
Because that went so well with Magic Girl.
00:59:07
Speaker
Again, not real company.
00:59:09
Speaker
Not real company.
00:59:10
Speaker
But I guess if you compare it to Andrew Highway with Highway Pinball, Big Lebowski.
00:59:16
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It was a real company, but that was inept.
00:59:18
Speaker
Yeah, Big Lebowski, again, real company, but they were inept.
00:59:21
Speaker
So I don't see any of that with Haggis.
00:59:24
Speaker
It seems that they're going through a typical, standard, difficult time getting things out the door.
00:59:31
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But they see, from what it seems like, then they really are making an attempt to make good on all their promises.
00:59:39
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Yeah, and they haven't failed.
00:59:40
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In my opinion, they haven't failed yet because they're still playing product out.
00:59:43
Speaker
Right.
00:59:44
Speaker
Exactly.
00:59:45
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And they actually have a legitimate, viable, improvable reason why they haven't had games ship out at the rate they would.
00:59:53
Speaker
And it's something that is affecting Stern, Jersey Jack, Spooky.
00:59:57
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So, I mean, it's not like they're saying, oh, well, we were going to put it up with the dog ate the cord.
01:00:03
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We got to we got to reweave the power cord and then we'll get it out.
01:00:07
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These are legit issues like everybody's facing them right now.
01:00:10
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Well, and honestly, let's talk about this just for a split second.
01:00:13
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How many of the companies out there have actually produced a game during COVID time?
01:00:17
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So March 2020 to now.
01:00:20
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We got American that did Hot Wheels.
01:00:23
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I mean, obviously Stern, which...
01:00:26
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Stern is in their own category.
01:00:32
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How much are they backlogged right now?
01:00:34
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I mean, I've heard estimates upwards of 20,000 games.
01:00:38
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Yeah, I don't know how true those are, but that's huge.
01:00:43
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JJP did Guns N' Roses.
01:00:45
Speaker
Was that before or after COVID?
01:00:47
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That was in December of 19 that that came out, was it not?
01:00:50
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Yep.
01:00:52
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I mean, American did do Legends of Valhalla, but that's also another, like, that was already kind of pre-made.
01:00:59
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Like, I don't know how much you attribute to that.
01:01:02
Speaker
You had Halloween and Ultraman come out.
01:01:05
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Yeah, so Spooky did their thing.
01:01:06
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But even Spooky said they saw the writing on the wall and was already ordering parts for Halloween and Ultraman well in advance before they even started making them because they knew they were going to run into issues.
01:01:16
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Yeah.
01:01:17
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Yeah.
01:01:17
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I mean, then, I mean, you have multimorphic that had some games come out.
01:01:21
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Um, but they also, you know, they're so dependent on all of those electronics, even more so than some of the other manufacturers, they did have a warehouse on them.
01:01:32
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We have a multimorphic, um, a P three system that's on order that we ordered at Expo last year.
01:01:38
Speaker
We don't have it yet because they're facing the same issues that everybody else is.
01:01:41
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Yeah.
01:01:43
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So I just have a hard time looking at Haggis and saying, well, they're not delivering on what they said they do when all the other companies are kind of having a hard time delivering as well.
01:01:53
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But they are delivering product.
01:01:55
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Yes.
01:01:55
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And that's the thing to remember.
01:01:57
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They are delivering product.
01:01:59
Speaker
I'm seeing some of the stuff that goes around and I just I don't fully understand it.
01:02:04
Speaker
I don't know.
01:02:04
Speaker
Like, was it Dennis and Zach that talked about toxic positivity on a pinball show like a few months back?
01:02:12
Speaker
And I'm like, I get like being too positive.
01:02:14
Speaker
That is a bad thing as well.
01:02:15
Speaker
But I'm being realistic is not a bad thing either.
01:02:18
Speaker
Like, yeah, taking the good with the bad.
01:02:20
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So yeah, I don't listen to their negative crap.
01:02:22
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So I know.
01:02:24
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I listen to it on two times speed.
01:02:27
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And so Dennis sounds like a chipmunk.
01:02:29
Speaker
I'm surprised that's not in your contract.
01:02:31
Speaker
Like you're allowed to be with us, but you have to listen to the pinball show.
01:02:36
Speaker
They pipe it through my Google Play speakers every night at very loud volumes.
01:02:42
Speaker
I and if I fall asleep before the show's over, somehow they fixed my lights to where they start blinking on and off.
01:02:48
Speaker
I am literally one episode away from developing epilepsy.
01:02:53
Speaker
Yep.
01:02:53
Speaker
That's part of the indoctrination.
01:02:55
Speaker
It is.
01:02:56
Speaker
It is.
01:02:57
Speaker
It's the TPN cult.
01:02:59
Speaker
So to wrap it up, no toxic positivity or negativity.
01:03:02
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We're
Godzilla-themed Pinball Mod Excitement
01:03:03
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all realistic here.
01:03:04
Speaker
We're all good.
01:03:05
Speaker
We don't get our own opinion.
01:03:06
Speaker
We're in the media.
01:03:07
Speaker
Gosh dang it.
01:03:08
Speaker
You're 100% middle of the road all the time.
01:03:10
Speaker
Okay.
01:03:11
Speaker
I will say though, I am positive that I got an awesome, or at least I ordered an awesome Godzilla logo sign for a mod.
01:03:24
Speaker
The Tokyo neon mod.
01:03:25
Speaker
The Tokyo neon mod.
01:03:28
Speaker
And this thing looks crazy.
01:03:30
Speaker
Did you get this too, Amanda?
01:03:33
Speaker
My husband is getting one for Father's Day.
01:03:35
Speaker
Nice.
01:03:36
Speaker
And it may be Father's Day of next year, depending on how long it takes.
01:03:39
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Yeah, I was like, well, there's lots of options there.
01:03:42
Speaker
Could be for the next 10 years, but.
01:03:44
Speaker
That's fine.
01:03:45
Speaker
Happy anniversary, babe.
01:03:46
Speaker
We've been married 15.
01:03:47
Speaker
You get it for 20.
01:03:48
Speaker
It's funny because I was looking at this.
01:03:50
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I'm like, I don't want to spend money on this.
01:03:53
Speaker
And then it's funny because he's like, we're going to only do $250.
01:03:55
Speaker
I'm like, well, now that you've put a cap on it.
01:03:57
Speaker
Okay, well, okay, I'll do it.
01:03:58
Speaker
And with how fast they were selling out.
01:04:00
Speaker
You got the LE.
01:04:01
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:02
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I was like, I better get in on this.
01:04:03
Speaker
Holy crap.
01:04:04
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It's funny that I went from like, I'm not spending money on this to like, oh, crap.
01:04:07
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I better not miss the boat on this.
01:04:09
Speaker
The FOMO is real.
01:04:11
Speaker
Well, my goodness.
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:13
Speaker
Okay.
01:04:13
Speaker
So I'm actually looking at the list and it says, let's see, 18 left before the run is capped.
01:04:21
Speaker
And then there's 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10.
01:04:23
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And there's loser kid right there.
01:04:24
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:32
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put me on the list at nine.
01:04:34
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And it was like, okay, everybody above is in 10 spots left.
01:04:37
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And then I'm the next one on there.
01:04:39
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But it was funny.
01:04:39
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Cause we were, we're in a chat with triple drain, Joel and Travis and Tom.
01:04:43
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I'm like, no, they're like, are you going to get this?
01:04:45
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I'm like, no, I just, I can't justify it.
01:04:47
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And then the next thing I know.
01:04:48
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Yeah.
01:04:50
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And even Tom said, yeah, I'm getting it.
01:04:52
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Actually.
01:04:52
Speaker
I think I sent it to you guys.
01:04:54
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Cause Steve Govea sent it to me.
01:04:55
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He's like, Hey, check this out.
01:04:56
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I'm like,
01:04:57
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that is pretty awesome.
01:04:58
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And within, and thank you, Steve, because within like 30 seconds of you sending it to me, I was on the list.
01:05:04
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Well, and he also said that he's going to try to start working on the signs in the back as well.
01:05:08
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The ones that tell you like bridges lit and start battle and stuff like that.
01:05:12
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So I'm like, well, if you're going to make it all matching, I better, you know, make it all matchy.
01:05:18
Speaker
So just think ladies and gentlemen, for the price of a mod, you can donate to learning solutions and make a difference in a child's life.
01:05:27
Speaker
Hey, I'll be doing both, okay?
01:05:28
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I'll
Gomez-designed James Bond Pinball Buzz
01:05:29
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be doing both.
01:05:30
Speaker
All right, last topic, and then we're going to wrap this up.
01:05:35
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Okay.
01:05:36
Speaker
Gomez came out and said he's doing, oh, sorry, he did not say he was doing James Bond.
01:05:40
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I apologize.
01:05:40
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He said he's doing Steve Ritchie's design, which they scrapped Steve Ritchie's design, and he's doing it from the ground up.
01:05:48
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Yeah.
01:05:48
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The rumor is, this is the rumor, people.
01:05:51
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I need quotes around rumor.
01:05:54
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You thieving, hungry people for rumors.
01:05:57
Speaker
Is that it's Bond.
01:06:00
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Yes, no?
01:06:01
Speaker
Does that sound good to anyone?
01:06:02
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I know David Dennis is like, yes.
01:06:05
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Give me Gomez.
01:06:06
Speaker
Give me Bond.
01:06:06
Speaker
He's frothing at the mouth about this.
01:06:08
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I know.
01:06:09
Speaker
He sold a game like last year to get on the list.
01:06:12
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Okay.
01:06:14
Speaker
I'll be the first to say I'm
01:06:18
Speaker
James Bond is one of those themes that can be problematic.
01:06:22
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And I would say that I even said the same thing about Elvira when Elvira came out and I thought, ah, this is your, you are selling a sex appeal in modern era.
01:06:35
Speaker
So is that, is that okay?
01:06:38
Speaker
James Bond, there are certainly eras in James Bond, right?
01:06:41
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So the classic one is Sean Connery.
01:06:43
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And then you have the Roger Moore days and then you have the two Timothy Dalton days and you have the Pierce Brosnan.
01:06:50
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Yeah.
01:06:51
Speaker
But those are so bad.
01:06:52
Speaker
I see where Austin Powers came from.
01:06:54
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Oh, they made it.
01:06:56
Speaker
It's in actually Golden.
01:06:57
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I was okay.
01:06:58
Speaker
But and but then you basically Jane Jason Bourne films came out and all of the Daniel Craig ones are basically Jason Bourne films.
01:07:08
Speaker
But that was Daniel Craig was how James Bond was in the books.
01:07:12
Speaker
Okay.
01:07:12
Speaker
So I haven't read the books.
01:07:14
Speaker
And so, but the only way that they could possibly go with this theme is they could either go with the Daniel Craig version, which is the current one that just wrapped up, or you can go with the Sean Connery one.
Balancing Nostalgia and Stereotypes in Bond Films
01:07:31
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I think that most people would prefer the classic Sean Connery one because
01:07:37
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But with that, you have some some very dated stereotypes, cultural stereotypes that are in there that would be challenging to implement because it is very much the the male fantasy from the 1960s.
01:07:55
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And I think it would be challenging to be able to implement that with like threading that needle of walking that line of what's, what's nostalgic versus what is inappropriate.
01:08:09
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I can kind of agree with that.
01:08:11
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Yeah.
01:08:11
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I think the safest bet, just go with Daniel Craig and then you go to Jason Bourne and it's
Female Perspective on Bond Portrayals
01:08:18
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most relevant.
01:08:18
Speaker
From a female perspective on this, if you do the Sean Connery version, you were going from a stereotyped, politically incorrect sex appeal murderer.
01:08:30
Speaker
To the Daniel Craig version, which is almost borderline sociopathic, provocateur, sex appeal murderer.
01:08:38
Speaker
So which poison do you want?
01:08:41
Speaker
And this is coming from somebody who loves James Bond.
01:08:44
Speaker
I don't want to see it on a pinball game, though.
01:08:46
Speaker
But I mean, I love Gomez games.
01:08:48
Speaker
So... At that point in time, just have Keith bring Archer back.
01:08:54
Speaker
I was going to say, well, look at what Keith did with Godzilla.
01:08:56
Speaker
Like, honestly...
01:08:58
Speaker
Godzilla, those movies are what, 75% dialogue and story and 25% fighting and that game is seriously all Godzilla fighting.
01:09:07
Speaker
Okay, but yeah, Godzilla is the definition of a CD list title that was elevated to A-list status by the designer.
01:09:16
Speaker
But my point being is, is you don't have to incorporate some of those stereotypes and stuff like that.
01:09:22
Speaker
You could still focus on the gadgets, the coolness and the gunfights, which would be a lot more like Mandalorian, right?
01:09:29
Speaker
Where you're building, you're building your armor.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:32
Speaker
You have to give you and you have the watch.
01:09:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:36
Speaker
You could definitely do
Question: James Bond Themes in Pinball?
01:09:37
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it.
01:09:37
Speaker
It's the theme itself is not something I'm interested in, but I am interested to see what George Gomez is going to do with it.
01:09:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:46
Speaker
And then the other question is, if you base it off of the Daniel Craig Bond, who is going to be M?
01:09:52
Speaker
Is it going to be Ralph Fiennes?
01:09:54
Speaker
Or what is it, Ralph Fiennes?
01:09:55
Speaker
Or is it going to be Dame Judi Dench?
01:09:59
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Ooh.
01:10:00
Speaker
I, you know, I'd have to go with Judi Dench on that one.
01:10:05
Speaker
I would love, oh, that would be a great M. Could you imagine her telling you, is that what you call pinball?
01:10:10
Speaker
Yes.
01:10:10
Speaker
Get out there and do better, Bond.
01:10:12
Speaker
Yes.
01:10:13
Speaker
What, having Judi Dench do that?
01:10:15
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Yeah.
01:10:16
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Oh yeah.
01:10:16
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No, she'd be great.
01:10:17
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And she, she's one of that talk about stage presence.
01:10:22
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She is one that could stare you down quickly.
01:10:26
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Yes.
01:10:27
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Time will tell.
01:10:29
Speaker
It sounds like we are all, Amanda's are in on an Ellie, it sounds like.
01:10:33
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No, no, I would, I still wouldn't own it.
01:10:35
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And the other thing too is Daniel Craig has swore off ever playing James Bond again.
Daniel Craig's Bond Legacy
01:10:40
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So.
01:10:41
Speaker
He got really salty in the last five years.
01:10:43
Speaker
It was kind of hard after the last one.
01:10:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:10:46
Speaker
Well, I wasn't going to give away any spoilers and he did.
01:10:48
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Okay.
01:10:48
Speaker
If you haven't seen the movie by now.
01:10:50
Speaker
He died.
01:10:51
Speaker
He died.
01:10:51
Speaker
Then.
01:10:51
Speaker
Yeah.
01:10:52
Speaker
But there was.
01:10:53
Speaker
I haven't seen the movie yet.
01:10:54
Speaker
Darth Vader is Luke's father.
01:10:56
Speaker
Oh my God.
01:10:57
Speaker
Did you know that winter already came and then it springs?
01:11:01
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
01:11:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:03
Speaker
Wow.
01:11:04
Speaker
And the hobbits made it back to the Shire.
01:11:06
Speaker
Just in case anybody missed that part.
01:11:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:10
Speaker
But no, it'll be interesting.
01:11:13
Speaker
So it sounds like we have to see it first.
01:11:15
Speaker
Yeah, this is a, I'm really interested to see it.
George Gomez's Design Contributions
01:11:20
Speaker
I love what George Gomez does because he has.
01:11:24
Speaker
Deadpool's amazing.
01:11:25
Speaker
Yeah, like Deadpool is so much fun.
01:11:28
Speaker
Such a good game.
01:11:29
Speaker
And he did a great job with Beatles too.
01:11:32
Speaker
I know that there are, there is, again, it's a different game and I like it because it is different than the other ones.
01:11:42
Speaker
But yeah, it's certainly, I love what George does.
01:11:47
Speaker
Well, in the words of TP and correspondent Craig Bobby, we're just going to have to wait and see.
Pinball Profile Tour Details
01:11:53
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Well, if you want to go on the Pinball Profile tour, oh wait, that's not our show.
01:11:57
Speaker
But if you do want to do that, go to Pinball Profile's Facebook page.
01:12:00
Speaker
Go join Teolas at a tournament and tell him the Loser Kids told you to go and then he will harass you for it.
01:12:07
Speaker
So.
01:12:09
Speaker
Amanda, tell us more about your show before I say more stupid stuff.
Promotion for Free Play Pinball Podcast
01:12:15
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I don't know if I could top that right there.
01:12:17
Speaker
No, come check us out.
01:12:18
Speaker
We're on the Pinball Network Free Play Pinball Podcast.
01:12:21
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You can reach out to us.
01:12:22
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We have a Facebook page.
01:12:27
Speaker
We have a Facebook page, Free Play Pinball Podcast.
01:12:30
Speaker
We would love for you to join our shenanigans or you can email us at freeplaypinballpodcast at gmail.com and check out some of the other awesome content creators on the Pinball Network, streamers, podcasters, whatever you're into.
01:12:42
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We can do it as long as it involves pinball.
01:12:45
Speaker
You want it, they got it.
01:12:47
Speaker
That should be your slogan.
01:12:48
Speaker
No joke.
01:12:50
Speaker
World domination.
01:12:52
Speaker
Yes.
Contacting Loser Kid Pinball Podcast
01:12:53
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If you want to get a hold of us, we are Lose a Kid Pinball Podcast.
01:12:56
Speaker
We are at gmail.com.
01:12:57
Speaker
If you type that in, lose a kid pinball podcast at gmail.com.
01:13:00
Speaker
You can get us an email if you'd like to.
01:13:02
Speaker
People are still asking about the hats.
01:13:03
Speaker
We're still working on them.
01:13:04
Speaker
Sorry.
01:13:05
Speaker
We are affected by COVID as well, apparently.
01:13:07
Speaker
I did not know this was a thing, but I have learned in the last couple of months that yes, it is hard to get a hold of hats for some odd reason.
01:13:14
Speaker
Besides that, if you want to get a hold of us on the socials, there is Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Twitch, all at LoserKpinball.
01:13:22
Speaker
But I do appreciate, like I said, Amanda, thank you so much for coming on.
01:13:26
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You don't know how much I appreciate you and your husband.
01:13:29
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And for all the help, all the calls that we went on and you helped me work through some of this stuff already for flipping the script, I'm excited.
Anticipation for Pinball Expo
01:13:40
Speaker
I can't wait for these shenanigans to ensue at Expo.
01:13:45
Speaker
I am just an honor.
01:13:47
Speaker
It's an honor to be a part of it.
01:13:49
Speaker
You know, you guys are great friends and anything we can do to help out.
01:13:52
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So I'm stoked.
01:13:53
Speaker
I cannot wait until we get to hang out again in October to do something like this.
01:13:58
Speaker
It's going to be so cool.
01:14:02
Speaker
And then Scott.
01:14:03
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:14:04
Speaker
No, I'm sorry.
01:14:05
Speaker
I was.
01:14:06
Speaker
He's asleep.
01:14:07
Speaker
I was looking at the thread and I was trying to find the follow up that said the back signs were getting made, too.
01:14:14
Speaker
But yeah.
01:14:15
Speaker
No, I'm looking forward to hanging out at Pinball Expo, and we'll see everybody soon.
01:14:20
Speaker
Why would you not want to miss this tangential chaos
Conclusion and Future Interactions
01:14:25
Speaker
with us?
01:14:25
Speaker
Yeah.
01:14:26
Speaker
This is like a bottle of rocket with a stick pulled off.
01:14:29
Speaker
We're just going in frantic energy with no sense of direction.
01:14:31
Speaker
It's fine.
01:14:33
Speaker
We'll figure it out.
01:14:35
Speaker
I guess we'll see you in two weeks.
01:14:37
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See ya.
01:14:38
Speaker
Bye.
01:14:38
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Bye.
01:14:58
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we'll cut that part out.