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Speaker: All right. And go. Darkcast Network. Indie pods with a dark side.
Speaker: You are listening to Castles and Cryptids, where the castles are haunted and the cryptids are cryptic as fuck. And I'm Alanna. And I'm Kelsey. um And we're back.
Speaker: To say. I yeah i know That awkward pause. was like, did she forget? I'm like jotting down the um yeah date or whatever. Because I'm like, this was supposed to come out.
Speaker: I think the second. A week ago. Originally intended. The best failed plans. Yes, as they say. oh Yeah. Yeah, hour we're back.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yes, this episode should be funny. I know my cases are pretty. Well, one of them is actually, i think, pretty hilarious. The other one. Triple homicide. not so like No, I tried to stick to more lighthearted. um Yeah. Stories.
Speaker: You know, there's a lot of dark there's a lot of dark ones ah that come up when you search up like celebrity or like TV star crimes. a lot of lot of drug stuff, a lot of DUIs, a lot of car accidents and stuff. It's some murky waters if you're like, yeah, TV star crimes, especially if you go the reality show crimes. as i kind of Yeah, you said you were going to do those. Yeah. You're like, oh, no.
Speaker: There's a lot to choose from. But yeah better than murder sometimes, you know?
Speaker: Yeah, I ran across, like, a couple cases that were like, ooh, this is interesting. But i was like, but I don't want to cover a murder. gosh. Yeah, unfortunately. That's the thing.
Speaker: You can be on a TV show and also, like, kill somebody probably, allegedly. But we were trying to go a little lighter true crime, I feel like, this time. Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I picked two celebrities that i love, so I think it's pretty great. I thought of it it was kind of interesting pulling up their Wikipedia and like reading about these. i was like, oh, this is kind of funny. Nice. I mean, I thought it'd like scandal slash, you know, bordering on crime too and stuff like that.
Speaker: But no, I don't know where you're going with this. I think the last thing we talked about was like how some of them are dark and you know, this yeah person might've been killed by that person. So I didn't know what you were covering. I'm like,
Speaker: Yeah. ah and I decided to pick ones where like either nobody got hurt or like um Nice. Like the the place involved was like, please don't press charges or whatever and stuff. So, yeah. Kitchen nightmares. Oh no.
Speaker: Okay. No, yeah. I tried to steer away from potentially triggering ones where it's like and yeah there's some yeah yeah like the like child pornography and shit too even it's like oh my god like damn like there's a lot that's a few goes right from child exploitation and all that stuff yeah you can get to the really dark dark dark um yeah it was like damn yeah tried to had to keep it lighter
Speaker: Oh yeah, we're good. We could definitely have just gone like celebrity crimes and then you have a whole gamut of normal to crazy. But yeah, we tried to keep it a little. We just want to have some fun, but I'm excited now. I don't know what the hell you're covering. Exactly. um Yeah. yeah I don't think we have any.
Speaker: and um I can maybe give a health update. I can't remember what I said in the last episode. ah What's changed? What's changed? Not much. I am am' currently, ah i guess, on a 30-day medical leave from work.
Speaker: um So I can chillax at home and de-stress, I guess. um And then I make her work on the podcast. Yeah, just... Slave trainer. She's like...
Speaker: She's just ah texting me 70 million times a day being like, hey, do this. No, she's We have deadlines yet. um As you can tell by us being a weekly.
Speaker: We prioritize mental health and care and things like that for sure. Mental health. All yeah all of the health. Yeah. um Yeah, my doctor thought it was, like, maybe heart-related for a while. um So I was doing some tests for my heart and, um like, ECGs and...
Speaker: Yeah, like monitoring my heart rate and everything, but it seems to not be heart related. so now we've moved on to tests for my brain, but ah so far like MRIs come back normal and everything. Which is good, yeah.
Speaker: At this point, we think it may just really be, like, stress and that kind of stuff, which, I mean, at this point, that might be the easiest solution to handle than it being, like, something major.
Speaker: So, yeah. We'll see. But it's nice. ah We could take a a leave from work and, um like...
Speaker: figure that all out and yeah take some time off yeah yeah especially i'm just watching movies and tv shows and laying on my laying on my couch that's crazy you must not know what to do with yourself no Yeah, it's been weird. Sometimes it'll be like, like one or two o'clock in the afternoon. I'll be like, God, I've like done nothing. And then today I was like, I should do like at least one thing. so I was like, you've had a load of towels in the dryer for a week. It was like, okay. The towels.
Speaker: like but I told to you about the towels this weekend. They were in there on the weekend. Yep. So I like put them on, um you know, like wrinkle release or whatever.
Speaker: um like really hot setting and then i was like yeah fluff them back up run them back through for half an hour or whatever and then i was like okay i'll put these away that'll be my my task for the day i put away the towels i washed a week ago But yeah.
Speaker: Honestly, yeah. It's much better better than having to take them from the washing machine and going, oh, I left these washed, but wet. Yeah. Then you need to like wash them again and you're like, oh no. I... Yeah, i don't think... I think I've only ever done that once and yeah, it was like, ugh. I was like, no, gotta rewash these. These are gross. Oh yeah. Washing machines get gross too, man. Ours has been... We keep cleaning the lip part.
Speaker: because you know there's oh i don't know i'm sure there was some is yours like a front load yes and then like yeah you forget sometimes you're like oh there's a cleany part there's a clean cycle but there's also a part where you you can take it out and like you know clean out the filtery thingy and like water comes out and you're like oh yeah there's some dog hair that's probably what's stopping everything from like yeah it gets kind of gross and grungy and you're like oh yeah oh that's nice though I was gonna say I hate when people say they like just take them like oh it'll come out of the dryer but then they say they leave in like piles somewhere and I'm like doesn't it get wrinkly that's what I understand yes that's why if I'm not putting it away immediately I leave it in the dryer so I can like re wrinkle release it don't know ah yes yes yes this makes sense
Speaker: It's not very insane. um Yeah. That's funny. No, I got on Pat. We had a bunch of freaking laundry buildup and then Pat did a bunch when I was at work and it was just like, oh, I was like, I keep feeling like I have to come home and being like, do I have any clean underwear for tomorrow? Like it was getting to like the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker: And then it was so nice. I was like, oh, okay. You did a bunch of laundry. That's awesome. um yeah nice but also like when you said that it was like oh somebody a comedian on the podcast or whatever i was listening listening to was like oh and you know my girlfriend's this is crazy how i like fold my clothes or something or wash my clothes and then they were like i take off what i'm wearing i put it into the washer you know the dirty clothes go into the washer once that's full that gets washed then it comes out of the washer and like
Speaker: back on me um out of the dryer like back on me and he was like he doesn't put anything away or fold anything he was like it's an unnecessary step and I was like yeah you're insane just stand there naked for two hours we don't understand your only options is like what's coming out of the dryer like you must have more clothing than that I was like what well somebody yeah somebody over told me that they have I guess like two hampers. They have one that they keep their dirty clothes in and the other one that they keep their clean clothes in. And like stuff comes out of the dryer. They throw it in the hamper and then they like in the clean clothes hamper. And then i was like, so you like don't ever put stuff away? And they're like, not normally. Or fold it.
Speaker: It gets thrown clean back into a hamper. I was like okay that's possibly the most insane and one I've ever heard I was like whatever you're
Speaker: I could not could not be me yeah watching them i guess yeah oh boy i'm like okay yeah yeah they're the ones washing them um it's like okay laundry man oh yeah there's a whole segment for you people go crazy yeah like shared laundry facilities oh so many problems oh man anyway yeah that was the uh that was the banter we didn't know we needed right ah is
Speaker: all right what do have to tell me about your Yeah, are you ready for my first one? yeah Yeah. I know. i don't know if you will remember this happening. um It was in 2001.
Speaker: So back in the day, yes, I would have been like 13. Okay, yeah, I was gonna guess like 1213. Yeah.
Speaker: I remember now a little bit younger, a little bit younger. So I do not remember this because I would not have been like watching the news or anything. Oh, less than five years old. Yeah, probably. No, yeah not many formative memories unless they're traumatic. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: um So this is Winona Ryder. love her. Winona. um who what scandal yeah i i'm trying to think like really think about the first thing i ever saw her in okay and i do remember i think i do remember this being in yeah tabloids at least later when i read people magazine which we'll get to okay yeah probably i'm sure it gets brought up a lot i can't
Speaker: they love they can Yeah, I am pretty sure the first thing i saw her in would have been like and maybe the first season of Stranger Things. Really? Okay.
Speaker: Yeah, because i I don't know, I'd have to go back. um and like check if there's a way for me to check on like letterboxd or whatever yeah um because like i know heathers and oh yes um ah like girl interrupted and um girl interrupted because it it you know it was spicy tv on late at night um And wre what else? My sister loves Heathers. I think i had seen both of those for sure. But oh yeah, I don't know. Like Edward Scissorhands and everything. Like I can't remember um if I would have seen those necessarily along with like Beetlejuice before I had seen the first season of Stranger Things. Right. Needlejuice.
Speaker: She's a classic horror-y girl. almost you know it's like I know. So I was like, this is fun. I really like a lot of those movies. What's the one that was in Casper 2? I'm like, there they get like goth girl queen vibes. Is her first name Christina? Is it Christina Ricci? Yes, Ricci. Ricci, yeah.
Speaker: Ricci. Who was in... um she was in yeah she was um wednesday adams wasn't she too right yes this one yeah yeah i love her too yeah um like yeah i thought it was kind of watching oh sorry i was gonna say pat was watching a halloween movie when i come home because now it's october yeah that's what i was doing earlier nice well didn't you other day go oh when who is that from one of the horror movies and like at first i was like i don't know but then almost immediately i was like jamie lee curtis like we were like oh yeah the other like she's the scream queen like it's jamie lee yeah yeah okay ah anyway yeah i was watching um
Speaker: I don't know. It came up on, like, newly added. I think it was on Prime or something. It's, like, an old one. It's from the 1960s. It was... ah Okay.
Speaker: Like my parents. um Oh, shoot. What was it called? Eyes Without a Face or something? Eyes Without a Face, I think it was. it's um It's French. Black and white. It's, like, this ah girl that's involved in, like, a car accident or something and has to get, like, a face transplant and her dad is like a surgeon they fake her death and like all the shit but the face transplants keep rejecting um and then it's like a whole thing but yeah pretty good like props and i was i was like cringing and had to look away multiple times when they were doing the facial transplant and i was like this was the nineteen sixty s like
Speaker: props to your like props department because it looks pretty gross was like i can't believe this like yeah creepy yeah it looked pretty good like if they had shown the same thing today in like full color i think it would have made people pretty queasy because like yeah it was like watching a surgery happen live or something Yeah, shout out to like practical effects, man, because they can pretty crazy. Absolutely. It was crazy. hu Yeah.
Speaker: I don't Yeah, it was pretty cool. That reminded me like a book or something. I was like, hmm. Like, I want to say like something called like The Mask, because I've read some like Dean Koontz and Stephen King back in the day. Like, I don't know. That was like a big, big novel, but it was something about like an actor that, yeah, wanted a new face. So when you were saying that, I was like, ooh, yeah, creepy. Yeah, that's creepy. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. a creep It's a creepy trope. Yeah, well, this, it was fine. They did, like, I don't know, the whole, like, pen mark where they're going to do it. know They had the whole, like, scalpel. plastic like surgery. Yeah. Yeah, and then they had, like, the blood running down, but it was when they were clamping, like, all the forceps all around, like,
Speaker: The skin and like, then you could see them like putting the scalpel under the skin and like detaching it from like the muscle all the way around and like could see the skin lifting up and they're like going all around the face for like minutes and minutes.
Speaker: Or something. Yeah, they're like, I don't know, you could see like, movement underneath the skin where they're like, pulling the skin away from the muscle, like on the face before they like, pulled up the thing. i was like, oh, this was, yeah, my skin is crawling.
Speaker: I was like, damn, this was like 1960. Like, this shot. this crazy this whole shot nope don't like that yeah gross don't just talking about it like i've been less disturbed by watching multiple saw movies than it was this two minute scene in this movie ha yeah although that chicken recipe i tried recently was cool and it was like well not recipe but like just roast chicken and was like get that butter and take a spoon yeah and you kind of get it up under the skin and like yeah it was like that it was a hit I'm so sorry yeah I don't I'm hungry you're disgusted now right yeah I was like kudos
Speaker: oh it's like please please don't show another one yeah man don't show anything else creepy yeah don't love the body horror um but anyway yeah this is like um yeah so you know exactly probably what what case i think it's probably one of the biggest scandals she's ever had um I mean, in the grand scheme of, like, scandals, I don't think it's that big. like Oh, right. Yeah. like oh that was actual crimes and everything. yeah I forgot exactly which one we were talking about for a second.
Speaker: Yeah. So this 2001. And Winona Ryder was arrested and charged with grand theft, burglary and vandalism.
Speaker: Grand theft? Wow. Yeah. ah um They really tried to slap a two-er. yeah and I couldn't really get, like, I don't know why vandalism was included.
Speaker: Me neither. I thought she literally just shoplifted something. like Yeah. What? I don't really know where that ties in, but I guess I'm not. 2001? Just just a typical time for us to be like super hating on women.
Speaker: Just dragging through through the mud. I don't I don't know. It seemed common then. Yeah, so she was charged a grand theft, burglary, and vandalism for stealing almost $5,000 worth of clothing from Saks Fifth Avenue.
Speaker: That could have been like three shirts though when I think about it. You know what i mean? um I don't know because I did see one article that did have ah slightly more information that I couldn't find anywhere else.
Speaker: yeah But this happened in Beverly Hills. And what the one article I just... Beverly Hills. I'm so sorry.
Speaker: Yeah, it's posh. It's a posh place for that to happen to you. Yeah, Saks Fifth Avenue. of ah Right? Is that even real? Yeah. um The article, like I just talked about that I couldn't find the same information anywhere else, said that a security guard um said that they saw her cutting price tags or tags off while in the changing room. And that she had taken 20 items through the checkout, but had only paid for four.
Speaker: So I think like they meant she had concealed. So, i don't know, maybe she was stealing like 20 items. Yeah. Or like 16 items, but yeah.
Speaker: Not too clear.
Speaker: i mean, you get too carried away or the place has lacked security there's some you can you can like okay that's one of my places don't let you take backpacks and stuff back into like changing rooms and things now because yeah i like i think if they just have teenagers or at whatever at the till and then you can just like stuff a bag and like yeah not gonna say i was on the right side of that as a teenager but nowadays i think that would be annoying to the And they have much stricter rules a lot of the times, but it's a place. So like, I don't know. are they giving you yo free champagne at this Saks Fifth Avenue? Because they could afford it, you know? like yeah
Speaker: It's like, calm down. um yeah so she got like arrested and everything in charge with that uh the store had made multiple requests actually to drop the charges against her but the district attorney's office refused uh to drop the charges so i thought that was kind of cool the store was like hey we don't want to like press charges um yes then it was past that point like yeah who's this da what the hell
Speaker: Winona was eventually convicted of ground theft and shoplifting, so they like dropped um the vandalism charge. Good. I don't know if that's just included because she was cutting like the tags off like I don't know because I feel like she a bit of a reach to me because like I feel like if you're trying to shoplift you're not like vandalizing to draw attention to yourself at the same time that's just like extra slap on the wrist for her or something
Speaker: Winona yeah was convicted of grand theft and shoplifting. And she would later say that she was under the influence of prescription pills that she describes becoming dependent on.
Speaker: um so she said that they had been like prescribed and everything. But yeah, I guess the doctor that had like prescribed them, I saw somewhere, was like later lost their medical license and all this stuff. like It seemed to be not...
Speaker: like properly prescribed um or like perhaps if it had been at one point she was abusing it at that point maybe I'm just speculating but like yeah like I think there was multiple things that could have contributed if if she was on some pills I'm sure it was yeah made her feel good there were perhaps a little less inhibitions at play yeah totally um
Speaker: so it's Yeah, right? In the grand scheme of the world, shoplifting is really like the least
Speaker: harmful thing you could actually do in the world. like that's really yeah Especially to not a small like business. If it's not a family-owned small business, I don't give a shit.
Speaker: like Sorry. Yeah, if and if they didn't want to press charges, then why were charges pressed? Exactly. Yeah, that's a little weird. A little bullshit. For the tabloids, yeah. ah Ironically, though, the trial made headlines for other reasons.
Speaker: um The clothing, I guess, that Winona wore during her trial were ah designed by Marc Jacobs. and Oh, no.
Speaker: Not like he specifically... avenue designer or Well, apparently his clothing was in the Saks Fifth Avenue and that's what she was trying to steal.
Speaker: um Plot. Yeah, so she was trying to steal his clothes. um And it's not like, I'm not explaining that like Mark Jacobs was like, hey, I'm going to design your clothes that you're going to wear at the trial. No, but she wore his his clothing to her trial. Because I'm sure she could have afforded it It was probably just for the thrill, if anything. You know what i mean? Could be. Or like, like yeah, sometimes. um Just wanted to live a little. She just broke up with Johnny Depp. I think that was around that time. the they She was hounded by the press after. Like, anyone who dates him gets like... yeah.
Speaker: I'm sure everybody gets hounded about everything. i went through this whole rabbit hole that was like the best friendship you didn't know ever existed. It was Gwyneth Paltrow and Winona Ryder. And I was like, God, why am I reading all this right now? was like seven pages. I was like, Jesus Christ. i was like, I'm getting pulled into this drama that happened like when before I was born. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: i know oh my god before i was subscribed but i did i was i was kept up on the hollywood friendships and stuff for a while i feel like yeah it was like so-and-so was dating so-and-so and they were best friends and then this it's like god it's like high school or like here they are shooting their new movie but then eventually i got tired of lynn was like but then this happened and they all broke up and you're just like oh and now we have to like look into people and you know just be mean about their personal lives hi gordo he's like all up in the spot um yeah so yeah yeah she was
Speaker: stealing like clothing that was sold by the store Marc Jacobs and then she wears his clothing to her trial um which looked very nice by the way ah and so that caught spark they got quite a bit of publicity for that and this led to a long-standing friendship but between Winona and Marc Jacobs oh where I thought that was kind of funny Amazing. Where she eventually appeared in his spring 2003 campaign. love that. And the pair remained friends and collaborators ever since.
Speaker: um Then in, oh, this was in November 2002, Washington Post put out an article that was about the trial where writer ah Robin...
Speaker: I want to say Givna, Given, given maybe, wrote that Winona may be a shoplifter, but she has impeccable taste, which I thought was funny. I was like, mm-mm. Of course she does.
Speaker: I will say, ah the job I work at, we do judge people when they're stealing. um We judge them based on what they're trying to steal. But what would they're trying to steal? when they're naked? Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, that's almost always a drug crisis, but... um It's very hard to steal things when you are naked. Where are you going to hide it? I i think that was a different situation, but I still can't get that over of my head when you told me about that.
Speaker: Sorry. Yeah. ah No, it will mostly be like, oh why are you stealing like this like handbag and these like socks and... like Yeah, not high-value items to be resold. No, but it'll be like...
Speaker: Yeah, it'll just be like stupid things and you're like, why? Like steal something good. Like no even fun. Yeah. Anyway. My girlfriend wants these ones. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. So fairly quickly, i guess these free Winona t-shirts, which I kind of want one. Not gonna lie. um oh Okay. Yeah. I think I remember those. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: ah they quickly were like printed and started being distributed at the time or at a time when like memes and everything didn't exist um like this is before like yeah really before even like the internet was a big thing like these shirts became iconic um and it's still kind of when i like look them up there's still a bunch of like rip-offs that you can order online and everything to like name three songs that band sings free winona or whatever
Speaker: yeah like shop but ah I thought it was kind of funny because I i ran across a picture that was Winona like back like more recently to when it happened wearing like one of the free Winona t-shirts and then ah I think a photo shoot she might have done within the last couple of years wearing the same shirt and I was like oh that's that's kind of funny that made me laugh I love it like a throwback photo shoot was like I hope other celebs could look at that like, feel some solidarity, like, I don't know, but more, like, people like poor Britney, where we were all, like, free Britney and stuff, like, people were like, this is not cool, and then everyone's like, ah you know, you have, how can you relate? There's, like, a unique experience being a celebrity under the scrutiny of the world. and oh yeah, I think it's something you can't even, like, imagine,
Speaker: like having every single moment of your life like picked apart and millions of people having an opinion on i would go insane like never go out without makeup yeah yeah i'd be going out with my makeup every single day so that when i did wear makeup people like oh wow they look really good jesus christ you look amazing yeah like i love her she is so iconic i'm like if this is part of her legacy but also the other thing i remember um
Speaker: Which I have to mention is that like she had this boyfriend that was known to have broken up with her complaining that her breasts were too big and she wanted too much sex. And I was like, that's hilarious.
Speaker: Did
Speaker: you ever hear that? No, she did not run across it. Jamiroquai front man, JK. JK. Oh my god, his so his screen name was JK? That's not funny.
Speaker: but I recognize the name Jamiroquai. Jamiroquai. Yeah, I know that like group or whatever, but yeah, allegedly he said he broke up with her because her breasts were too big and she always wanted to have sex with him.
Speaker: God forbid. And that's always the paraphrase. Oh, here's the quote at FHM magazine. Oh, I used to read FHM and like I don't know, whatever the other fucking stupid man one was. But sometimes they weren't that... They were like more cleverly written than fucking Cosmo. So I was like... oh I'll read this if my roommate has it. and Okay, he said, she did have this habit of constantly wanting to play hide the sausage. It was exhausting. What the fuck?
Speaker: I'm sorry, what a loser. What a... What like a um self-like... I don't know, like reporting that you're an idiot and like what a loser you are. being like Guys, does anyone want a hot girl who's very successful, talented, wants sex all the time?
Speaker: Breasts are just huge. Sorry, I'm out. like Okay, buddy. there and So funny. ah Yeah. tim I don't know. I would just know. Yeah, right.
Speaker: So just be yourself. Do whatever you want. even shoplift from sacks fifth avenue um yeah it's uh 25 unless you're rich um yeah so the yeah like these shirts um obviously are like pretty iconic um I guess, like, not everything was going great, though. Like, after kind of that 2003 campaign she did with Marc Jacobs, there is some, like like, sporadic work that she did, some, like, voice acting and that kind of stuff. But not, like, a huge involvement in anything that was, like, super mainstream or um I'd say, like, really.
Speaker: here Like notable necessarily. Like I didn't recognize the names of any of the projects. It's possible she had a hard time finding work then. Yeah. Which as an actor. Always have that like. it Like non-reliability. Yeah. thing She said that definitely like. Fell into a lull where like it was hard for her to like get insurance. Or get um auditions and everything. After this all happened. So she did take like somewhat of a step out of the spotlight. For a number of years. Um.
Speaker: Yeah. I'd say like she is still best well known for probably her earlier work in like all these cult classics. So mentioned Beetlejuice. Depending age demographic, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Like Edward Scissorhands, Dracula, the Age of Innocence, Little Women and Girl Interrupted. like Those are some big um fright movies. Right. Women's.
Speaker: Yeah, I think the only one I haven't seen... i don't know if I've seen that version of Little Women. um i don't think I've seen The Age of Innocence. um Love all the other ones.
Speaker: But yeah, after... like not into like I haven't seen a lot of the... um Little women sort of sense and sensibility historical stuff. Yeah. Even though I'm kind of a history girl, but eh.
Speaker: Yeah, it's not my favorite. Yeah. I don't know. There's different versions, though. I'm going to try some. The Age of Innocence was the other one? I don't know if I've that. oh eighteen seventy s New York. Okay. No, I don't think I've seen that one.
Speaker: No, I don't think I have. um Yeah, so after years of like... Wow. um minor roles in lesser known projects Winona re-entered the spotlight I'd say um with her main role in casting in Stranger Things what a comeback I know and like some really good role um I think it like in a huge um like a huge thing and she's probably one of my favorite characters in it like and for a number of years And for a woman of her age in Hollywood, it's tough to get a good role that's not just blah, blah, blah, one dimensional. Yeah. So really cool. was really happy for her. I mean, considering what everybody else's parents in that movie, like she's the only one that's in like every episode, basically. good to write every All the other characters off is not having parents anymore. Because like, where are they?
Speaker: Okay, but to ah to be to to be fair, or to contract that, um the other mother, not the movie, which I do want to see. But um ah what's her face's mother?
Speaker: was going to say Natalie Dwyer. That's the actress's name. um Nancy Fiers, like the her mom and everything. and will's mom the blonde one oh she was in a bunch of shows like and then we were watching something back and then she was just like this like secret agent or something and we were like you know you from strange things so actually that was really cool to see her in some different roles too but that's anyway that was just uh something i thought of oh but yeah there's so many good actors in that yeah
Speaker: And then also like they did the Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, the second one, which was decent. I wouldn't say it held up like as much as the first one, but equalls i mean, I thought it was.
Speaker: It was nice to have everybody back. um Yeah. And obviously with like Catherine O'Hare passing and everything, like they can't really do anymore. So it was nice that like.
Speaker: The recent one? That was the recent one? they just Yeah. Okay. yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's neat to have. It's neat to see it. Yeah. It's nice that like they were able to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. I like when they revisit stuff like that when time has passed and like there's a nostalgia for it and people want it. know. Yeah, I think it depends. It was pretty well made. I don't think it holds up to the original one, but it's hard do that movies just aren't made that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker: i don't know movies just like aren't made that way anymore Like, that's just not how they get funding, and it's not how they're filmed, and, like, stuff uses a lot more, like, CGI instead of practical effects, and... yeah and it was just like movies in general though i mean i think you just don't know when you're get that gonna get that like what do they say like lightning in a bottle like sometimes you just don't know what's gonna be a hit really yeah pour all this money into something and then it flops you know you just they're like oh yeah yeah that's interesting um i love her
Speaker: Yes, I love her too. um Yeah, so that was the first one. i thought that was kind of interesting. i was like, okay, I love Winona. Didn't know she was shoplifting. Okay, now I've heard about that one.
Speaker: Yeah. and The other one, I thought this one was also pretty funny. It came up on like almost every list I looked at. Okay. Okay.
Speaker: And it's also, like, pretty funny. Okay.
Speaker: okay It's ah Matthew McConaughey. and This happened. I love Matthew McConaughey. I will watch any movie with Matthew McConaughey in an okay.
Speaker: All right, all right. All right, all right, all right. have no idea what you're going to say. It's just so If you watch any interview with him, just, like,
Speaker: right um Yeah, I don't know if I would have been able to predict the story, but it did come up on like all these lists. I thought it was hilarious. So this event um ah happened in 1999 when police were following up on a noise complaint ah that was happening at 2.30 in the morning.
Speaker: And police respond. They go to Matthew McConaughey's Austin home. And ah they go in and they find him dancing naked and playing the bongos.
Speaker: Mind you, in the privacy of his own private property. So like do whatever the fuck you want. But apparently he's being too loud. I'm sure.
Speaker: staring I guess he was I think he might have been outside I'm not too sure but anyway okay just like 2 30 in the morning he says bongos and these are actual bongos yes full on bongos okay okay yeah I was like, know those are some sort of drum. Yeah. um Though police did find a bong inside his home, ah they were unable to charge him with any drug-related offenses because they weren't there on, like, a, like, warrant or anything to, like, search the house. Like, they were responding to a noise complaint. So, like, whatever they saw, they couldn't do really anything about
Speaker: Okay. was gonna say, also, that's just a bong. That's just paraphernalia. That's not even drugs. Yeah. Like, even before weed was legal here, you could still sell those in the shops and be like, it's for tobacco. You know what i mean?
Speaker: Yeah, like, like a loophole. Yeah, so they kind of said, like, they, um, that, but Matthew, like, McConaughey, he was charged with ah public disturbance and resisting transportation.
Speaker: um After he was involved in quote-unquote struggle with officers who were trying to get him into the car, like, the police car, um, i think i don't know if i kept it his big dick i can't remember if i i can't remember if i kept it in but i saw a quote that was like yeah of course i was fucking like fighting them they broke into my house and just like attacked me in my yard or something it's like yes like like they just like
Speaker: fucking came in and we're like and he's like what's going on like I'm not gonna say i can relate but sometimes you have angry neighbors or they don't like you and one time when Rain was really little we lived in this apartment building and they like somebody said they called a noise complaint on us because the cops showed up And we were in bed. What? So, like, Pat basically answered the door like that naked butt for bongos. thought it was our neighbor. think someone didn't like us there because, like, that was not the first time we had a complaint on us.
Speaker: When Rain was, like, a baby. That's ridiculous. It was crazy. We're, like, we're sleeping. Like, what do you want? wow So, I totally know how old Matthew feels. No, I'm just kidding. Right? What? What?
Speaker: um Yeah, so I guess they like ah take him to the station. um at the time, there was this reporter, Bob Banta, that um wrote, I guess, something saying, quote, people in the lobby of municipal court, ah most of them waiting to pay parking tickets, were cheering as McConaughey ah or cheered McConaughey as he exited the elevator with his attorney, Joe Turner. so you round of appla like, that's Matthew McConaughey! Yeah, because they're, like, in the same courtroom. They're just, like, literally looking to, like, fight a traffic ticket. And here he is in, like, civilian court or whatever.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Um, I just thought it was so funny. i didn't end up watching this, but, um, like, McConaughey and his wife actually revisit this naked bongo arrest in a new tequila ad.
Speaker: Um... So they're also kind of poking poking fun at it, which I thought... Oh, that's nice. I feel like Winona did the same kind of thing. They embraced it and were like kind of like, yeah, I did that. Like, and okay. Exactly. Get over it. Yeah.
Speaker: um Yeah. So this is from this article. It said the actor 55 and his wife Camila Alves in a new ad for their tequila brand are revisiting McConaughey's 1999 infamous with the law McConaughey was arrested in Austin, Texas when police running to yes responding to reports of noise complaints found the actor in possession of marijuana and paraphernalia while dancing naked and playing the bongos, according to prior media reports.
Speaker: um Oh my god. What was he playing the bongos with, by the way? His hands? I think so. i just think it's funny because... um it's all in the ad In the ad for the tequila, his wife is like reading the police like report, and he's like like throwing in his like two cents. being yeah um I just think it's kind of funny. yeah um It says, to celebrate the anniversary his first and last run-in with the law, ah the tequila brand that's called Pantolones.
Speaker: Pantolones? Pantolones? you know i think so pantalones organic tequila the mcconaughey's are releasing a dramatic reading of the police report um this is his tequila brand or something or like so yeah him and his wife's oh think it's him and his wife's yeah um liquor it says steve uh Oh my god. Zern Kilton? The voice of Law and Order? Sorry. Not familiar with... ah Well, I'm familiar with the concept of Law and Order. I have not watched any Law and Order.
Speaker: haven't heard that name, I don't think.
Speaker: He's somehow the voice of Law & Order, is also featured in the video. um Matthew McConaughey and his wife Camila revisit ah um an ad for the tequila.
Speaker: Oh, he says he starts off the video saying what follows is the real police report. No names have been changed because he was totally guilty. ah The video cuts to Camila who reads the report out loud as Matthew drums on the bongo and offers his commentary on the report.
Speaker: so ah It says on the 25th day of October. It's almost October 25th. It's almost the anniversary of the bongos.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: yeah Okay, on october the 25th of October, camila Camila says, to which Matthew responds, 2.36 in the AM. m Camila responds that saying, well, the report says 2.37.
Speaker: Matthew responds, they were tardy. um Camila continues, glassy and very bloodshot eyes, um to which Matthew responds, and...
Speaker: um Then she jokes saying, why can I see this so clearly? um Matthew then remarks, ah because it's happened about 45 times since.
Speaker: And then that law and order voice great ah voiceover advises, please bongo responsibly. okay so it's sorry, i you said the law and order voice and it's the guy who does the the voice at the beginning.
Speaker: yeah probably yeah yeah steve yes z zern k kilton yeah that's a weird name yeah okay anyway um in addition to the video pantalones is commemorating the anniversary of the incident or the incident with a signature cocktail called pantsless and famous so Oh my god. A riff on the classic cocktail, Naked and Famous.
Speaker: ah It includes the organic bla ah the organic Blanco tequila, Aperol, yellow chartreuse, and fresh lime juice garnished with a lime wedge.
Speaker: I'm so into Aperol lately. I love it. It's that Italian liqueur. Yeah, it's all orange and you mix it with sparkling wine and stuff and then mix Aperol Spritz. But damn. Like, sorry. um That just made me laugh. The description, all of it.
Speaker: Yeah. They're fully embracing it. They think it's hilarious. Yeah, you gotta watch this video. It sounds funny. I just died when, like, the wife is like, why can I picture this so clearly? And he says, because it's happened 45 times since. It's like, you you naked bongo often enough.
Speaker: Yeah, you... He's out there vibing just like 2.30 in the morning. Sound the bongos again. That naked bongo drummer.
Speaker: But it's funny because if you watch like any interview with him or like people talking about like their work experience, you're like, yeah, he he lived on set like in a trailer out back that he parked there or whatever. And he was just vibing the whole time. it it's like Jesus. sounds So what he's like a real hippie? Yeah, he sounds so funny.
Speaker: just sounds so funny when you're like watching stuff yeah and then you want you watch like one of his roles and you're like wow he's so dramatic it's like yeah that's true that's true um yeah so all those cute kids with his little wife there and they all have cute little names like levi always loved seeing their pictures in the little bags a um yeah so the thing continues saying um the actor has candidly spoken about his arrest multiple times and even addressed it in his memoir green lights um so i guess this is the lead up to it um after attending a texas longhorns football game mcconaughey who was 29 at the time spent the rest of the weekend partying before deciding to wind down with some marijuana and the beautiful melodic beats of henry de kongu don't know who that is in the early hours of our time don't know
Speaker: ah in the early hours of Monday, October 25th, 1999, the actor wrote in his memoir, um what I didn't know was id that I was banging away in my bliss. Two Austin policemen also thought it was time to barge into my house unannounced, wrestle me to the ground with nightsticks, handcuff me, and pin me to the floor.
Speaker: Banging away in his bliss, Yeah. Yeah, that's how you it's literally phone. I think the bongos are a cover story.
Speaker: McConaughey added he refused to cover himself up during the arrest and lashed out at the officers for breaking into his house. um right ding dang dong you see it all bing bang bong uh he was booked into jail on drug related charges and for resisting arrest um he pled guilty to the misdemeanor charges and was eventually fined five or fined fifty dollars um wow
Speaker: yeah um in an interview with gq um like the leading man of the year 2013 mcconaughey cheekily remarked that he still plays the bongos naked but he makes sure to close the blinds or close the windows like i'm like yeah no more no more noise complaints but yeah i just thought that was so funny like Yeah, I didn't watch, like, the full video, but I could see them. He's, like, sitting there, and he's got the bongos, and they're, like, him and his wife inside the house, like, in front of the fireplace, and she's just, like, reading the police report, and he's just, like... boo so Sounds like a slam poetry event. but Yeah.
Speaker: And then I went outside, and there I did see the cops. Yeah, I don't know. yeah and like at 2 36 and she's like who to it says 237 and like fucking fine then shut up bitch yeah i saw it was so funny i was like oh they like have a tequila line and now they have a a drink to come around pantsless and famous it's like great it's true i was like fabulous i love that
Speaker: next next step in our goals get uh our own heart like liquor heart liquor i don't know crystal skull vodka we want in ah dan are you oh god yeah he loves that shit and anytime i hear people slagging it off now i'm like no you know what he stands behind that you tried that shit you try it again it's good I have, and i I do mostly drink vodka when I'm out, but yeah I can't do it straight. I don't know how people can. Oh, don't... I don't
Speaker: Anyway. Gotta get the good good Russian shit if you're able to drink it straight. at the Oh.
Speaker: I don't remember what our house vodka was called at that restaurant bar hotel there, but the pantry... Yeah, like, the yeah, the the cheap shit always has some random Russian on the label.
Speaker: You're like, I don't think this is, like, trying to fool you. It's certainly not weird enough. Yeah, it's not anything better than that, like, sky or, like, polar or whatever. No. It's just shit.
Speaker: Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Those were the two I researched. um Two of, like, but two of my favorite actors. I've liked them for a a number of years. like Yeah. They got charged with actual crimes somehow. That were hilarious.
Speaker: And harmless. Yeah, i like that. like Yeah, like nobody nobody got hurt. um They've kind of embraced it and like moved on and like kind of can poke fun at it.
Speaker: Yeah, like obviously it sounds like maybe Winona's financial situation like she maybe had a hard time getting work and stuff for a while which that kind of shit yeah sucks because it's like you can't step a foot out of line you know well when I looked it up on like her like Wikipedia there was still like a number of things listed for almost every year in between like so she still had quite a bit of work it wasn't just it just wasn't anything that was like I'd say super like mainstream or what she'd be like known for
Speaker: now I don't remember any of it. yeah Yeah, I didn't recognize any of the names of like any of the movies or shows or voice acting she did. Well, hopefully she wasn't too hurt in then. you know like I hope not.
Speaker: I hope she had good good residuals on everything. Yeah. But it's like, it's crazy. Like you will get that kind of scrutiny. Like somebody had the. Oh yeah.
Speaker: i I read a free. ah I see free. Why do I say like that? It's like I get it from the library, but I got it from the library at work where people, it's a lending library, but it was a Johnny Depp um biography. Sort of thing And It was only up until like the early 2000s So didn't have any of the latest Skit Yeah whatever but it was like Yeah Even when they were together um Him and Winona They're just so high profile They come under So much scrutiny They're always yeah under the lens Of everything just It sounds awful The way people just pick your life apart
Speaker: you know yeah like Oh yeah, they always have. like yeah um Watch any ah anything from like even the 50s and 60s and like going back, everybody. All the starlets and everything, all the celebrities have always been like just picked apart and scrutinized for for everything.
Speaker: i suppose so. for a while they were in silent movies and then the 90s and the 2000s man they were a particular rabid time like oh man what a time to be a woman alive in the business all
Speaker: right well that was amazing i think we shall take a break so i can pause this recording
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