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Young Justice Finale Feedback & Lightyear Hype
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Pixar's Lightyear opens in theaters this weekend and Zuhair, Andrew and J Scotty unite for a final episode to build hype and solicit feedback before experiencing the other side of infinity! Plus, a few pieces of listener feedback hot off the heels of last week's finale for Young Justice Phantoms.
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Young Justice Finale Feedback & Lightyear Anticipation
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On another very exciting and special edition of Animation Deliberation, we're covering Young Justice Phantom's finale feedback, as well as Building Hype talking about Lightyear hitting theaters in most locations this evening at the time of this recording, but everywhere on June 17th. We're gonna get right into that. After some ads, we have no say over whatsoever.
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Host Introductions and Listener Welcome
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Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah. All right, friends. Welcome back to animation deliberation, the podcast that takes action animation and cartoons seriously, but not too seriously. I'm Jay Scotty Sinclair, and
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I've got a friend in you, the listener, but I also have a couple of friends here with me. I've got my co-hosts Zuhair Ali and Andrew Rogers. What is happening, fellas? Howdy, fellow toys. You're doing well. How about yourself? Very good, very good. Very excited and very overwhelmed for what is going to happen tonight. Yeah,
Lightyear Pre-Watch Excitement
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yeah. At the time of this recording, I know Andrew and myself are going to see
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the movie lightyear pretty much as soon as we get out of this recording. So definitely waiting with bated breath here. What's more overwhelming, your excitement for this movie or having a snake in your boot? The snake in my boot is expected at this point. You know, we've had four Toy Story movies. I just I live for that.
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It's funny, I have my Woody sitting right next to me and I was going to try and pull the string, but I didn't want to sit here and go through six different sayings to get a stake in my boot as you said that. So many inappropriate things. I was going to say that could really be taken the wrong way. I've got my Woody right next to me. Don't want to pull the string. Got six different sayings. Oh, I can give you a couple more, buddy.
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Oh my goodness.
Young Justice Season 5 Hopes
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So, Zuhair, you weren't here for the finale of Young Justice. Do you have anything you want to bounce off us as hosts as I try and dodge as far away from this one as I can? Clearly, we've all drank from the poison water hole. Young Justice was pretty awesome, man. I'm bummed it's over, but just happy that we still have it.
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hoping for a fantastic season five with lots more story, lots more action, uh, more of seeing the team together again. It's yeah, just great. I loved it. I wish I could have watched it and like a better headspace, but loved it. Yeah. We were very sad that you couldn't be here to join us, but.
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It was great to be able to include your thoughts in some fashion. So thank you for submitting those thoughts and thank you for being here now.
Supporting Young Justice & Audience Engagement
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And if for some reason you're listening and you haven't watched Young Justice or heard our coverage, our last episode was for the finale, episode 26. And Young Justice is one of those shows. It's always kind of a guessing game about if and when it's going to come back. And we here on the show are big supporters of it.
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definitely check the show out. If you watched it through once, watch it again, listen to our podcast, submit some feedback to us. You can do that at animationdeliberationpodcastatgmail.com. And on that note, we have some people that did just that.
Young Justice Character Feedback
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Let's get into some finale feedback here.
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first one coming from Andrea hello again thank you for reading and responding to my email I appreciate it small correction it's pronounced Andrea but that is okay because I get the other often I may have pre read this well either way we apologize because I was the one that read that email so that's on me for once not a zoo hair and his pronunciations so yeah and now he gets to do it right so there you go
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As to my wedding info, apparently there is some shipping going on with El Dorado and Bart Allen. Also, yes, Beetle and Thirteen were established in the episodes from the last season where Perdita was kidnapped at the fair. There was also the running joke in that episode about Static needing a girlfriend. It seems he still hasn't found one lol in all caps.
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Again, I appreciate you all and you cover much of what I watch as well. So I will be sticking around stay wound Well, thank you Andrea. Yeah Yeah, and I will say on the note of people shipping El Dorado and Bart Allen I do love that and it's also just another Sprinkling possibility of the representation because I know Bart Allen in a number of the comics is canonically bisexual as well So with El Dorado being another male character it
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doesn't feel like a stretch for people to say, oh, we're shipping them because they were sitting together at the wedding to actually have that possibly be just even more sprinkling in in the same way we did with all the other characters. I kind of love that nod and possible forward mention. And for my knowledge, just as a refresher here, Eldorado was the
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The one that can teleport, right? He has the father that worked for Star Labs. Is that correct? I believe that is his power. Okay, I can't remember his first name
Character Dynamics & Representation
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off the top of my head. He wasn't the one with the astral projection of that spirit.
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Let's see. He was abducted and given metapowers by the Reach and became a member of the Outsiders. Power is teleportation. His first name is Eduardo. Eduardo, Eddie. Okay, that makes sense. I believe he's a junior because I remember his relationship with his father was a pretty focal point there. I didn't pick up on that at all. I didn't know that about Bart Allen, but yeah.
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It's great how the show shines a light on these things without hanging a lantern, a green lantern if you will. The other thing I take away from that is I had completely forgotten about that running gag with static shock and I feel for Virgil. I'm there too. I'm not actively seeking a relationship, but I know how it is to
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be confronted with social engagements where it might be expected to bring a significant other. Not everybody has to be in a relationship. Hang in there, Virgil. At least he knew his friends were superheroes, so he didn't have the worst time at that wedding. Thank you, Andrea, for your eagle-eyed pickups there and for writing back in. I hope you continue to write in and thank you for being a part of the show.
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Who was it that didn't know his friends were all heroes? Oh, we looked up his name and I'm trying to... Marvin, I want to say. What's his name, Marvin? Have we seen him before? What was he in? We hadn't seen him since like all the way back to season one with the Halloween party, maybe season two. He was one of the happy high school members that did all the things with them. And then they all happened to become superheroes after that. Gotcha.
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That's why he was sitting amongst all of the other teenage superheroes from the high school with Bluebird and all of them. Right. Good times. Are we ready to move on to the next piece of feedback here? Do we just want to put Fabi and stuff together? Yeah, I think Fabi and Z-mails together are good. Do you want to get that or shall
Listener Speculations on Supergirl & DC Universe
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I? I can get it. Cool. So both of Fabi and Z-mails all together.
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One theory I have regarding Supergirl is her dad sent her to the Phantom Zone as a way of avoiding the planet exploding and hoping Clark or someone with the projector saves her, or she could be a bad girl. We'll see, I hope. Great pod, guys. Keep the positivity. Listen up with the hope. We will see you soon.
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I believe TJ was referencing the DC animated film Superman Batman Apocalypse, a sequel to Superman Batman Public Enemies based on the comics and artwork of Jeff Loeb and Michael Turner, among others. In the film, a recent release from suspended animation, Kara is kidnapped and brainwashed by Granny Goodness and the forces of Apocalypse. I'm sure it happened in the comics too, but this is the one I'm aware of.
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Great Pod, guys, and yes, Spy X Family is excellent. I watched the Delbon Crunchyroll and the voice acting is excellent. Bye, guys. Fabian. I'm happy someone else is watching it now. Spy Family is awesome. And I actually have seen those Batman Superman movies and they were really good. Like, as I was reading it, like, scenes of it started popping back into my head. Hmm.
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And for the first part of it, I know the Supergirl TV show, the CW one, her origin there was that she was sent off of Krypton when it was about to explode, and on her way out, she accidentally drifted into the Phantom Zone. Yeah, I watched the first couple of seasons of Supergirl, and as I recall, maybe it was a shockwave or a bit of Krypton, the planet knocked her off course. Something like that, yeah. Okay.
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And then I'm curious, these two films that were mentioned, one of them was Justice League Apocalypse, is that right?
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that Superman Batman. OK, are those all a part of like this shared continuity that we've talked about for a while? No, they're neither one. These are totally different. Yeah, I think those two go together, but they are not part of the overarching DC animated universe, which speaking of, it turns out they're starting another one with the past like two or three movies. They've started doing another connected universe. So that may be something to keep our ears to the ground on going forward as well. Sweet.
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Yeah, Fabian, your knowledge and your wealth of information never ceases to amaze. I've had a fair amount of exposure to the character of Supergirl across various forms of media, but seeing her as a villain is brand new for me, but it seems like Young Justice is doing what it always does and pulls a little bit from every corner of the DC universe to appeal to fans of every interest level.
Young Justice Season 5 Speculations
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So to hear that she served as a fury beforehand is surprising to me, but I look forward to the fifth season getting to see her play a little bit of a different role than I'm used to seeing her play. Check out that movie if you want a taste of it. It's pretty good. I just want to see her be a bad girl. Just flat out she was sent to the Phantom Zone as a criminal. Let's see her be bad this whole time. Like that would be kind of cool as a full new take. I don't know if I need the hero turn over and over. Let's just let bad be bad for a little while.
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What was Zatanna's student's name that turned? Mary. Yeah, Mary. Oh, yeah. I was so sad to see that. I know it's going to be badass, but it was like she's like Black Adam now. Right, yeah. Was it Mary Black or Miss Black? I want to say Mary Black sounds right. Yeah, I think it was- It'd just be Black Eve.
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Well, I think part of this as well, not to get into too much of the nitty gritty, but I want to say in comics, she was Miss Marvel or something along those lines. I think her name was Mary Marvel or Mary Marvel. And that was part of the joke earlier in the season of, oh, say the name, say the name. I can't say that was right. They have since taken away the name Captain Marvel for Shazam.
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Despite that was, I believe he was Captain Marvel in the first season of the show because they still were kind of deciding what the rights were going to be. And then MCU took off. They said, hey, DC, why don't you rename this character Shazam? And that's what they did. So now I think that's probably another part of it is let's rename her as well to Mary Black. That also could be a comic thing. I don't know, but I do know there's a history going on with all of those different names.
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I mean Shazam's a lot cooler too. Like it's just more fun to yell at the fact that it's acronym for all the gods. It's just, it's pretty clever. Yeah. I think it was just the fact that that's all of their trigger word for their powers. That makes it a little weird. Like every single one of them says Shazam because I think there's six or seven of them total. If I'm not mistaken. What I do know about the character and I, uh, it's been a little while since I watched the movie with Zach Levi, but
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As far as the continuity that I'm aware of goes, it's the wizard's name is Shazam. And then the hero himself was Captain Marvel, so he said the wizard's name in order to invoke the power. And actually, as I'm thinking about it, I think that is what took place in the movie as well. I think Jiman Hansu was like, say my name or something like that. But you know who I bet does know?
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Fabian probably knows the answers to all these questions we're asking, and if not him, TJ. And also the fact that they respond to each other's emails on our podcast is so funny. I love it. I love that you have this little fan group bubbling and creating itself outside the chat. It's awesome. I like that Mary came up, though, because I was thinking as we were talking about Kara, Supergirl, do you think that they're going to get along or they're going to be rivals?
Character Rivalries in Young Justice
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Oh, so you're wondering if this is going to be some Star Wars Darkseid kind of things of like, I'm the most powerful. No, I am the most powerful. Well, I want to be Darkseid's best friend. No, I want to be Darkseid's best friend. Or even with like Granny Goodness, I don't know if you guys have seen the favorite. The Oscar winning film, but basically it's like it's these two women vying for another woman's like affection and her approval. I could totally see Granny Goodness relishing in that.
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I feel like it's going to be more of testing out the anti-life equation and then not having control over themselves at all. Interesting. Yeah. Just pointed weapons for Darkseid. Yep. Makes me think of the boys, but I won't go off on that tangent right now. OK. Are we ready to move on to some more feedback?
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Last one from JaShawn Smith. Hey guys, love podcast. It's awesome to tune in every week and listen to you guys review new animation. This season of Young Justice has been has had some great story beats from Superboy to Beast Boy. Interesting for them to do characters arcs. I wonder will the
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where they'll go in the next season, especially with new characters like Hooded Figure, Damien, Kara, and Mary. Again, the podcast is amazing and I love listening each week. Thank you guys to Sean Smith.
00:15:42
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Well, thank you, Jashawn. I think this is your first email into the show as well.
Young Justice Storytelling & Season Structure
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So welcome to the feedback group. Yeah, I echo those sentiments. It's always great to hear from new people and just watch the show grow. So thank you for tuning in and thank you for writing in and thank you for watching Unjustice and letting us know how much you enjoy it.
00:16:02
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Hopefully you'll stick around for our show as well as the fifth season that we've got our fingers crossed for. And I will kind of shed a little bit of light on all of these things as we're talking about them. There's been several interviews over the past couple months, including a Q&A earlier this week with the writers of this show.
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And an interview a while back, they talked about where the arc structure came from. And they just said, we have so many characters set up, so many different things that we want to do. What if we did arcs this time? Because they had them all written as, OK, we want to do this with this character, this with another.
00:16:39
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And they were like, we could cross them as we always do. Or what if we just left them in these broken segments? And they said, you know, it was an interesting way to do it, but it's not something they're necessarily married to because they wanted to change it. There's a different vibe every single season. So I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see arcs again. And as much as I enjoyed it this season, I don't think I need it again in the future. I would like to see more character growth across the board. But then the other reason I'm bringing up that there was a Q&A earlier in the week is they could not
00:17:09
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confirm or deny anything about season five but they they were very hopeful very positive and very confirming without confirming that the reviews looked very good there's a lot of great stuff coming out of this much more adult oriented season as well as this Q&A was for the companion comic that just came out
00:17:29
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That's already looking like it's going to getting some positive reviews and the fact that they are putting out a companion comic says DC wants more of what they are doing. You like the first one that you've read so far, right?
00:17:43
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Yeah, I think they're coming out weekly, so there's only the one on the website right now. But that companion comic, we don't have enough time to go into here. It was so much fun. Everything I love about comics, just the way that they can toy around with viewpoints and characters jumping between each other. It was so good. And then it just had that young justice feel at its core.
00:18:06
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And my favorite cast of characters, it was Bowhunter security was like part of the forefront of everything. So getting to watch all of the arrow clones interact on screen with a bonus employee of Bowhunter security, which I'm not going to spoil, but is an awesome part of the continuity we've kind of questioned in the past that they have started to sprinkle in.
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It's gonna be a lot of fun I think wherever this comic goes and it started it's about Perdita getting kidnapped that happens on like the first page so it's not a spoiler and then everyone having to go save her and I think Gar and her are broken up at this point because there was some like you know romance things so it seems like we're gonna get more information about what happened to them as well, so
00:18:53
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I don't know it's kind of cool but it is between season three and four we do know that much so it's not going to give us new information aside from stuff we may have suspected hopefully we can drag over the the posts of our sibling podcast spark source pages a reading collective and see if they can come over and chat with us about that
00:19:14
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Yeah, between that and Tales of the Jedi, I'm sure we'll have at least one of those hosts appear and do some coverage with us and vice versa.
Podcast Network Collaborations
00:19:24
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That's the great thing about being part of the Stranded Panda Network, go to StrandedPanda.com for all these great shows. And I think that wraps up all of our Young Justice stuff. I don't know if you guys have anything else to say. Nope.
00:19:37
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Not Young Justice related, I have like one quick bit of fun news that came out this week. Sure.
Avatar: The Last Airbender Movie Announcements
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Hit us. Avatar The Last Airbender announces three new animated films coming from the franchise as creators. That is so exciting. And if you followed us on Instagram and looked at all of our Instagram stories, that's animation deliberation on Instagram, I posted about this on our story as well to kind of get some thoughts out there already. So, Zu, what do you want out of this?
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more avatar content. You don't have any like, what would your number one story for one of these movies be? I'm not sure if I necessarily want any particular story, but I do want to see like our team as adults a little bit more. Okay.
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Because while the comics were good and they were a little cheesy just because Aang and Katara were on their honeymoon phase, the whole thing of like restructuring all these and like the Fire Nation and stuff into its pieces and the fight between them and the Earth Kingdom of like which colonies belong where and how like Republic City came to be like, oh, that was fascinating. But I do want to see more of like
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More adult and because there's too many shows that cover on too many Too many like teenage characters and I do want to see the development of the characters that we already have an attachment to hmm. Yep
00:21:01
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I'm right there with you. My vote is even centred on Fire Lord Zuko. Have him be a focal point of what his rule actually looks like and maybe a little bit of escapism from the crown to go and have shenanigans with the gang again when he gets overwhelmed or something along those lines. That would be interesting. Yeah, definitely. And I'll just say,
00:21:25
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I have gaps in my animation viewing, but probably my biggest slight or my biggest, like, egregious error in terms of my lack of viewing is I've seen many, many episodes of Avatar the Last Airbender, and I remember watching it when it was on when I was a young man, but I've never sat down and watched it from beginning to end. And it's one of those shows that's been brought up quite a bit.
00:21:53
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We need to change that. Yeah, I know. It's a timing thing, but it's just great to have an excuse to finally do that. I think with these movies, as requested as the show has been already, it's just the perfect excuse to cover it on this podcast. I'll be excited with my experience as a viewer now and a little more maturity and whatnot to go back and really appreciate the series and get the full picture.
00:22:19
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Yeah, we thought we were going to cover the show for preparation of the live action. So it's even more exciting that we're doing it for actual animated content. Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm excited. And I'm excited to also do this with a first time viewer and kind of get all of your holy crap. They did this in a kids show thoughts.
00:22:38
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because it was young justice before young justice of they did the adult things that shouldn't have been necessarily taught to kids, but kids actually understood it in a great way. So I'm excited to know. Yeah, I don't know. First time viewer doesn't seem completely accurate because I have seen quite a few episodes. It's just I've never sat down to watch it from beginning to end. Like I know
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There are a few episodes that I remember very well that'll be interesting to revisit on a new watching where I have the entire continuity kind of in mind. But yeah, I'm definitely excited for it. And I'm glad you guys are so excited about it. I'm glad, like I said, that we just have an excuse, a justifiable excuse to... Excuse doesn't even sound like the right word, but motivation to cover it on this podcast.
00:23:26
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Yeah, we can bring it higher up on our list. Yes, exactly. It was definitely one of the first ones to hit the list. Indeed it was. We just need an excuse to talk about more secret tunnels. About time. That I don't know. I know the cabbages. I saw that on the Instagram. I was waiting for you to actually say it.
00:23:47
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I was trying to find a good way to link it in, but it doesn't need a good reason. I don't need to know all the words. You don't need a good way to go to a secret tunnel. Well, I'm looking forward to understanding that reference, I will say. My nickname was Sokka when I started growing my hair out. It's a show that I love. I can't speak its praises enough, but we have another exciting thing to talk about tonight.
Building Hype for Lightyear Movie
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Indeed, indeed. As we mentioned at the top of the episode, in addition to covering Young Justice feedback and that Avatar news that we just got, we really wanted this episode to kind of be like the building of hype right before we go into Pixar's light year. And full transparency, there was a Disney Plus kind of behind the scenes featurette that they released on June 10th called
00:24:38
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Beyond Infinity, the journey from Buzz to Lightyear, and it's like a 35-minute little featurette akin to the Star Wars Gallery series or the Marvel's Assembled series, but it's preemptive to the release. What was that one that they did for Ms. Marvel? What was that one called? I was unaware they released something before Ms. Marvel.
00:25:03
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It was basically just kind of like a primer, again source pages, a reading collective spark. They do these primers to get people hyped for series and get people a little more familiar with a character, but Disney Plus has been doing that more and more. And they did that with Lightyear.
00:25:18
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I'm the only one of my co-hosts that have watched in its entirety, so I will provide a slight and mild spoiler warning for everyone.
Buzz Lightyear's Character Origins
00:25:25
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The first 15 minutes are really good content that kind of, as I set off air, I didn't have the opportunity to rewatch all the Toy Story movies before going into light year. Just a timing and scheduling thing didn't allow me, but this featurette did a really good job.
00:25:41
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just reminding me of the character's origins showing how they kind of brainstormed this concept of kind of like a space ranger superhero character that kind of harkened back to like Flash Gordon and those serials from the 1930s and how
00:25:59
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he really kind of had humble beginnings. That first Toy Story movie is Woody's movie, and it just says a lot about the character, how he stood the test of time, and how endearing, and how much affinity everyone has for him, that he was really the foil to the main character, and he's gone on to get this origin spin-off story before Woody. I don't even know if they're contemplating one for Woody right now, so I really appreciated the featurette for that.
00:26:27
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Yeah, and the featurette does a really good job of also reminding.
Tim Allen to Chris Evans Transition
00:26:32
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I think a big part of why this character was so good was the voice behind buzz. Oh, yeah, I don't think you could have had this without Tim Allen just bringing that bravado to it that you know, we've talked about.
00:26:45
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And I think, you know, we're gonna have a great experience with Captain America himself, Chris Evans, taking this helm. But I do think it's gonna be a bit of a different spin, and I'm okay with that. I'm not saying it in a negative light by any means, but I think he brought so much to that original character that I don't think we would be getting this movie if not for him originally.
00:27:09
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And especially because Tim Allen's performance is him as an experienced Space Ranger, whereas we're seeing the origin of Buzz Lightyear and him really stepping into his role. So you do kind of need that the differentiation of like, that the wondrous of like all these different worlds and whatever shenanigans you're getting into as opposed to I'm a Space Ranger. This is my job. This is my duty. I've been doing this for years, like,
00:27:36
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You need to have kind of like that. You need to have that little spin and that little innocence that I think that Chris Evans is going to be providing to this. And the series that you were referring to was called A Fan's Guide to Ms. Marvel. A Fan's Guide to Ms. Marvel. Okay, great. Thank you for looking that up. I appreciate it. And as you talk about the origin story, I'm going to pitch this as a rhetorical question and talking point because I don't totally know the answer anymore.
00:28:03
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A few months ago, and we talked about this based on the trailers, it was, this is the origin story of the man behind the toy. And in this featurette, they kind of brought up the point of, you know, how would Andy have known about this? Well, he probably saw a movie, he saw a TV show or something that this toy then relates to. Right. Do we think that this is still a factual movie of like this person's
00:28:32
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journey or is this a movie in a movie like this is the actual movie that Andy went to the theater to go and see and it's all some big like connected universe and this is fiction within fiction is it rhetorical or is it a talking point you gotta pick one no it's a talking point I'm just saying like if you know the answer because of the spoilers you were talking about Jay Scottie don't bring those up but talk away as to what we think this could be
00:28:59
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I will clarify that the spoilers are not about that at all. The spoilers talk about what transpires within what I'm guessing is probably the first 10 minutes of the movie with Buzz himself. Okay. Yeah.
00:29:16
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But no, to answer your quote unquote rhetorical question there, I really don't know. I know there's those people out there that have the internet theories that find a way to connect like all the Pixar and all the Disney movies together. So I think just for continuity's sake,
00:29:37
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it might be more, actually not even for continuity's sake. I would just say for a universe building, for me personally, I think it would be a little bit more fun if it was the story of an actual person that existed within this tangible world. As fantastical as it seems already.
00:29:57
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Yeah, and I think that's part of it is it just seems so like far fetch of a thing. And I don't know about either of you. I did not have a toy of Buzz Aldrin as a kid, like as fantastical as astronauts were. We didn't look to them as the I want the toy. So it felt like, hmm, maybe this was based on the TV show.
00:30:20
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in universe like it was just a really cool point that this featurette brought up that i didn't even think to question when they said it's the origin story of the toy hmm yeah i don't know i think it's just spin-offs off of characters that are just kind of testing the waters to see what works and they might push off of it in the future because a story off of rex would be really cool a story off of the toy soldiers i would love that
Toy Story Spin-off Ideas
00:30:45
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Yeah, that'd be fun. I would honestly love a like bunch of shorts about the toy soldiers. Just give us like a weekly five minute. Hey, they went on this adventure in Andy's house and I would be ecstatic about what's going on there. But it would be cool if it's like they made it wonders where it's like it's the house, but like actually animated to look like.
00:31:11
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they're in somewhere else like they're in a jungle like you see the house but it transitions actually look like a jungle and they actually like have vines and i just tried to make it like more wondrous without it just being an animated war movie
00:31:24
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Yeah. All right. Here you go, Disney. Just take this idea. Just call it Andy's playtime and give us like how great that scene was at the beginning of Toy Story three. That was the mirror of him playing with the boxes at the beginning of Toy Story one. And you could see like ham hanging from the ceiling. And then in that short at the beginning of three, they had the ham spaceship. Like just give us that a bunch of episodes. And I would be a static like exactly what Zuhair said.
00:32:08
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That was a tough game. It was a lot of fun, but it was a tough game. Gosh, I haven't thought about renting games from Blockbuster in forever. Oh, I still have my membership card. Showing my age. Showing my age. I still did. I'm not that young. I remember going to Blockbuster and renting all those games. Don't you worry. OK. OK. Fair enough. Fair enough. But even just talking about these potential spin-offs and whatnot, I can't help but go back to one of the more recent
00:32:19
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do it with all the toys, let it spread its wings, that would be a lot of fun.
00:32:35
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characters we were introduced to with Toy Story 4. I want that Duke kaboom spinoff. Give us Keanu Reeves doing what he does best.
00:32:45
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remember the stuntman he was kind of like yeah evil and evil yeah there's that's the thing of and this opened the conversation toy story gave us so many characters that we all fell in love with time and again they have an endless number of possibilities and I think honestly it it's terrible but the least interesting is woody I think
00:33:06
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Hmm cuz we already kind of know about Woody's roundup and the puppet that he came from and all of these other things like Let the other toys have their time in the Sun because yeah, he was just a piggy bank, but ham was amazing Why did they make a slinky dog? Like where did that toy come from? like you said Rex has some stuff that we could do with all of the dinosaurs that he now is friends with like there's a lot of Stuff that we can flush out
00:33:32
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from all of those early movies that I think has a lot of merit. And yeah, I'm curious to see because I think this movie is going to do well. I feel like I know people who don't like animation at all that have been talking about this
Lightyear's Appeal & Listener Feedback
00:33:45
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movie. And I'm I'm very excited. I'm going to see it with my whole family because we grew up with all of the Toy Story movies. So it's it's going to be a good time. And I think that's going to hopefully give us a better future with more of these movies is how popular it's going to be amongst families.
00:34:00
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Definitely, definitely. And I'm just so excited to see, even though I didn't rewatch all the Toy Story movies in preparation for this, that first one I'm like intimately familiar with. It's one of the first theater experiences I remember growing up. So I'm just really looking forward to the ways that they weave in little cameos in reference there. I think in one of our first coverages of one of the trailers, like one of you guys mentioned the fact that they might include the little green men
00:34:25
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that were in the Pizza Planet machine with the claw. You have to show one of those at some point during this movie.
00:34:32
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The claw. The claw, that's right. Not to be confused with the Jim Carrey liar, liar claw. Am I showing my age again? I'm showing my age again. Another reason I wanted to do this episode was kind of as much as to build hype for us right before we go into the theaters, I did want to give people an opportunity. We will be recording this Sunday with Friend of the Show's hair a day, but
00:35:02
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It'd be cool to read some real time feedback from people like right after they come out of the theater. So I'm planning on dropping this. I will be going to theater pretty much right after we record, but then I'll edit it right after that and have it hit the feeds. Should be Friday, Thursday, overnight, Friday morning. So if you're seeing like you're within those first couple of days of release, please hit us up with your feedback. If you're waiting to see it and just want to, you know,
00:35:28
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build up your hype and anticipation, please send us some feedback that way too. You can reach us at all our social medias, the Instagram, the Twitter, Facebook, I'll allow Andrew to plug all those, but then also the email that I mentioned at the top animation deliberation podcast at gmail.com. Yeah. And if you don't want to type up all of your thoughts and want to walk out of the theater, the voice memo app on your phone or the built in voice memo or voice recorder on most windows laptops, both work really well.
00:35:57
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You can just record your thoughts, scream into the microphone and say how excited you were about this film, and then just email that directly to us. That works just as well. That's how all of us do it when we're not here, like Zuhair had to last week. He literally just recorded it on the base stuff and sent it along.
00:36:14
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You don't need any special equipment if you did want to send that because I had a friend who asked, hey, how do you do that? Do you need a mic? No, you just need whatever phone or computer you had if you did want to record. So that is also an option if you wanted to do that with your feedback. Indeed. What they said. All right. Anything else you guys want to say about your anticipation for Lightyear here? I wish I could watch it with my family, but I'm going to have to enjoy it on my own on first watch and
00:36:44
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Yeah, whether it be from the action or the animation or just pure nostalgia, there's going to be something about this movie that's just going to be great. That's actually, I'm glad you said that, Zuhir, because that does remind me of one thing I wanted to bring up about that feature that I was talking about.
Pixar Animation Evolution
00:36:58
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It was really incredible to see how far we've come, or how far Pixar has really come with their animation style. Seeing those stills and little clips from Toy Story 1
00:37:11
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you know as iconic and how much of a game changer it was like seeing that original Buzz Lightyear model and the reflection on his helmet compared to like what we've seen from the little snippets of Lightyear so far is just mind blowing and I'm really looking forward to seeing this high quality
00:37:32
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animation on the big screen opening weekend. That's that's one of the things I'm most excited about. Honestly, I already have chills like as you're talking about how far this has come. I'm so like a ball of energy just for that. I think I'm going to cry probably like three times just hearing the music and seeing it on screen like it's just probably going to completely overwhelm how far we have come because.
00:37:56
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I'm not trying to make either of you feel old with this. The first Toy Story predates me. That first Toy Story came out a very long time ago. It was in 1995 compared to myself, who was 1998. There's so many of us that have come along with all of these characters that it is just, I'm so ready to see how far we've come.
00:38:20
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I have enough physical issues to make me feel wild. You don't have to worry about that. Right. And I guess last little thing that comes to mind here with the featurette, I don't think either of you guys watched until this point because you were wary of the spoilers, but they spent a little time with the director Angus McLean. And I'm just really excited to see what story he brings for us and how much passion for the character he brings because he wasn't
00:38:46
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He didn't work for Pixar when they did that first film, but he loved the character so much that when he came on for Toy Story 2, he became the go-to guy for Buzz Lightyear, any kind of animation, how he would move his hands, how he would move his face. And they just showed him interacting with the production crew. And he has this tendency to build things out of Legos. And he just loves toys and action figures. And you could see around his desk this menagerie of action figures. And he likes to take them apart and put them back together.
00:39:16
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He clearly has so much love for the character and it seems like a really interesting guy. I believe this is his first full fledged solo directing opportunity. His last film that he co-directed was Finding Dory. Interesting. You bring up the animation of Buzz
00:39:33
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And I think that's the thing I'm really curious because I know they're going to do a fantastic job as Pixar does. But they talked about in that feature at how mechanical the original buzz was that they wanted to make sure if this was a toy, how would it move? How would these joints interact? And, you know, from a technical perspective, it was so far ahead. Like that's commonplace now that, you know, you put in the code and stuff.
00:39:55
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and it would be able to link, but that was so cutting edge then. This is going to be the first buzz foray where we don't have to worry about mechanical joints, so I'm really interested to see how fluid this buzz is going to look compared to the toy version and how many differences we can find.
00:40:11
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We're going to talk at length, I'm sure, about the animation styles and choices come Sunday. Indeed, indeed. Well, folks, thanks as always for tuning in. Thanks for all your support. We will see you on the other side of Infinity. Last call to action here is to please leave us a rating or review. If you dig what we're doing here, show us a little love and help keep us going with a five star or whatever you think we're deserving of.
00:40:37
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Marvel Podcast Guest Appearances
00:40:48
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Zuhair, do you want to let the people know about what you've got going on?
00:40:51
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Yeah, so I've been guesting on the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast to do the instant reactions for Ms. Marvel. For those who know, that show is based off of Boccasani family. I myself am from Pakistan, so I've been doing a lot of breakdowns of the cultural stuff that's involved with that. So if you want to have an expanded view of that show, please check out the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast and watch the videos on YouTube. Yeah, I just got to say
00:41:20
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The trailer, and I might've said this before, but I'll say it again, the trailer for Ms. Marvel didn't exactly have me overwhelmed. It had me whelmed, but two episodes into Ms. Marvel, I think it might be my favorite Disney Plus show so far. I am loving it. It just puts a big smile on my face the entire time. Iman Valani is just so adorkable and lovable, and she's great.
00:41:50
Speaker
Andrew, did you want to let the people know about anything you've got going on? Now, as always, you have the social media. Go follow us there. That's my main way to interact with all of you. I will say, Zuhair is the number one companion piece to the Miss Marvel show because he has done a lovely job of letting the other hosts, who are just as uneducated with the culture as I am, talk about what they've learned. And then he goes in and fills in the amazing blanks as he does so.
00:42:19
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Honestly, give him the listen. And he mentioned YouTube and stuff. If you go to their Twitch and livestream, it's fun to watch them go back and forth in live action. And occasionally these past couple of weeks from Ms. Marvel, I've been there. So you could just hang out with me and tease Zuhair like I've been doing behind my screen name that I don't think he's realized as me yet the past couple of weeks. That's all for me.
00:42:42
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Yep, good times, good times. All right, as for myself, we just wrapped up our coverage on Benjers Assemble for the Jurassic Park films, culminating with Jurassic World Dominion. So please go give that a listen. And then I've been appearing on PandaVision for The Boys season three. I don't know if I'm gonna be a permanent installation there, but I kind of popped in as a understudy for episode three.
00:43:08
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and it sounds like I'm going to be showing up for episode 5 as well. So if you dig the boys, we're having some pretty great breakdown and analytical discussions there that I'm quite enjoying. So check out PandaVision as well as Benjers Assembled, both part of the Stranded Panda podcast network. And that will do it for me this week. Thanks again for tuning in. That's T-O-O-N-I-N. Stay well. To infinity. Are you trying to get me to pull your finger?
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