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#21 - Oliver Blume - Regeln sind da um gebrochen zu werden: Immobilien, Hotels und Quantencomputing
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Wie gelingt es, mit disruptiven Ideen Branchen neu zu denken – vom Fernsehturm über modulare Hotels bis zum Quantencomputing?
In dieser Folge spreche ich mit Oliver Blume, Unternehmer und Investor, der querbeet innovative Projekte vorantreibt. Er erzählt, wie der Kauf und die Sanierung eines 65 Jahre alten Fernsehturms zu seiner Vision von urbanem Wohnen mit platzsparenden „Box Apartments“ führte. Dabei musste er gegen traditionelle Bauvorschriften und das Unverständnis der Behörden ankämpfen – ein Beispiel, wie bahnbrechende Ideen häufig auf Widerstand treffen.
Oliver teilt zudem seine Erfahrungen aus dem Apothekenmarkt, wo er mit Discountkonzepten und Automatisierung alteingesessene Regeln brach, aber auch persönliche Anfeindungen und politische Kämpfe erlebte. Seine Geschichte zeigt, dass Innovation nicht nur Mut, sondern auch Ausdauer und kritischen Dialog im Team erfordert.
Außerdem berichtet er, wie er in das hochkomplexe Feld des Quantencomputings einstieg – getrieben von der Überzeugung, dass Deutschland diese Schlüsseltechnologie nicht verlieren darf. Dabei macht er deutlich, wie essenziell politische Weitsicht und konsequente Förderung sind, um im globalen Wettbewerb zu bestehen.
Diese Episode ist ein inspirierendes Plädoyer für freies Denken, die Kraft von „Rulebreaking“ und den Glauben an disruptive Veränderungen – für Unternehmer, Visionäre und alle, die an die Zukunft glauben.
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Introductions and Backgrounds
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Hi, I'm Ajmal Savari and From the purchase and the sanitation of the TV-room, over innovative Box-Hotels, to work in the field of Quantencomputing.
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Oliver erzählt von seinen Erfahrungen im Streit mit Behörden, den
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Enjoy!
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Today talk about Oliver Blume. Oliver is a and investor with a wide range portfolio that been from Immobilien and Hotelier to technology and quantum computing. He currently has innovative project that develops a and space-spareng hotel concept conceptive for urban design. His long-term experience in the development of different companies combined with his focus on the connection between technology, architecture and sustainability, provide a special perspective on the future development development of disruptive development disruptive innovation. He also engaged the quantum computing research and from one of the most exciting technologies of our time.
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Unfortunately, my microphone has not worked properly, but luckily don't say much. Oliver hears me freely. Alright, enough background. Let's get into it, shall we?
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Oliver, welcome to my podcast. I thank you very much for your time.
Podcasting in a New Language
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I have say, this is a premiere for me. This is my first podcast on German. I'm doing it on English. So I'm sorry if a little Denglish comes out.
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m We have been the first time with our contact. We have been through a joint connection with our friends. I
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I looked at what you already did. Also that's the the in
Innovative Ventures and Designs
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and me. just list yeah That's right, our friend said that said not the VW-Chef. That came not in
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they think as money ask the big funnels are but but money ask a far and direct to has at from beland The TV tour. How does TV tour buy? That was my first question.
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What do you want to ask?
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Also das war ein bisschen einfacher, weil wie gesagt mein Nachname ja identisch ist mit dem des CEOs Oli um tried to explain, that on the and that
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and um as I got with the idea of the issue of the And in
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and vi enough i long on duing andkare there as as a as do hasa ifaang wolfen or a mazel hey Yeah, you have to sell. Where it was not clear, if you want to sell. But when said, I would like to ask, with whom can speak, was actually quite excited about it. Because you wanted to see if I'm a candidate or a spinner. There were many people called me.
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Ach, tatsächlich? Okay, das hätte ich jetzt... Okay, und was, also wie kann ich mir dann so eine Verhandlung da
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Yeah, well, there a lot of things that we have in and gosviak side sip sian visits in order the and then to see,
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that they gave them to The city had also a veto-recht from them. And there was really interesting concept was another
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um not under Yeah, a lot of people, if I say that, they wanted to have that. They had a bit of a very fantasy-like plan, which were also financially difficult to set up. And when said, I had a idea, the shaft with building to build building, so that the shaft comes out the water from the water, and that you can then better sanify and then also be more stable, then it was actually something that was understandable.
Architectural Solutions and Sustainability
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And then
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It was and that I that to asked us in k that site oka abaed on dan oti andchaid on gutroen
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on, right? Yeah, it has always to and things, I have other thoughts that are logical for which are maybe not logical for others.
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And since had Box Apartments. That's architecture solution, which have created or skizzed in boxoel gapez fua aner of garbbe stalong he had an immobilia um miveish plaz on um dhi tuum foron um he might be metbita baiva vaimma kla um ah ho hotel simmer van z huunng from ma for endon on min e deva for unfunng unniri and hotel simmer ba v i made of umf c miles by meter arti lin is does food me falls out tomanitter byter well i met a the of
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That's a build a hotel room with the room with a smart I
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Hotelzimmer, was knapp 4 m hoch war und durch eine Split-Level-Thematik, die ich da erfunden habe, dann doch sehr gut war und ein Raumgefühl bekommen hat und Sinn macht etc. to about 4,40 to the height of the height. And that was for me just a architecture.
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I live in Venedig, there was a architecture-in-law, where I looked at what it was the time was tiny house and mini apartments. And I found my idea then very convincing and thought, the will build a little bit later. Then there was a Fernsehturm, the building had building. And when I could think of that, that I would have to put these apartments in a way. Then had different vision, that I had to have a lot of living in the city. And so was that. And then I took a circle of my children from the house, and then I took a
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If that's the idea of the Chef, then you can just try
Leadership and Team Dynamics
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it out. What is that problem? Well, that's always the point of view of what you want to find out. If you're a disruptive chef, it's it's very important your employees and and
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Nimbus. Aber nein, die Leute, die ich um mich herum habe, sind sehr, sehr ehrlich, sehr direkt und teilweise beleidigend. Okay, okay.
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um Fähigkeiten der Überzeugungskraft, dass wenn du dann ein Team
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good that's kind of what by me disco was i see paulval english um ypohen And
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and this is einlich mothers disbeto pennivoto harmcans c sisters to mitloyton um dish ima offer shi kan to sudan ib my vokfa sas house and al ain The first part of the area where I come from, is that the discussion with people from another branch of the other, very quickly, ideas.
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My wife said earlier, she didn't go to an hotel but earnt one traffic loiter the e sea and business was a business on the nahabi no noyedd um they under understand i need a yara ah duchka haen and they may it done zeba e fein who be in theovf term that is with Now my family had the idea of the
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um i'm muat peter hadi in by mi and bero and um the noga chef today mild than octosopptive than efun A in
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But it's not for me, as if you don't have time to spend your family with your family. It's just that these things are parallel going to happen.
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Also die Diskussion, die du schreibst, ist mehr das Interesse. Yeah, it's just so, a not And to was this from experience. And it is just, and it also shows you the Hirnforschung, that you have very, very difficult difficulties, disruptive thinking to make, because you have all these experiences. experience to blend, that is just a difficult and is probably also a you just described here is also very interesting.
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Let's say that many... Let's say that this creative aspect is when you come from branches, you see other in the other branches and you ask yourself, why are you doing this?
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We are doing this That makes actually much more sense. Could you do that not so? And noticed that when with people from
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actually because it grew up historically. So that was it actually already. Also because there are obviously in the branches of the a And it was clear that I in for privacy, also a private room and a shower. Now I said I can not put the shower down on the earth because the water has not. if I imagine I build a hotel with 200 I had to go to the house EG, had to go to water in the to to to to to
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I made an naduhugaba that um ah the kind vasadam put it.
Pharmacy Industry Innovations
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the And ima vaita the from And
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exact um to most mild understanding
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Okay, also da wäre ich ja jetzt überhaupt nicht drauf gekommen, dass das, was Yeah, but when the just hanging, the room just hanging on a the same. The Dusk has to be on the best Estrich-Bond or the one must be
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Also, ja, definitiv, also ein bisschen anders auf jeden Fall. Ich glaube, ich muss auf jeden Fall mal in eins von deinen Hotels gehen, um das einfach mal zu sehen. Das ist, das habe ich mich, auf den Fotos habe ich das jetzt gar nicht, ich habe mir das natürlich angeschaut, das ist mir gar nicht visuell aufgefallen, dass das einfach dann hängt.
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Ja, gut ist es. Ich muss dann ein Kompliment an die Architektur dann.
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All people who come here have an Aha-gefühl, they say, wow, what a room-gefühl can't imagine. More room than you need. You have great to see Aha-Erlebnisse when you come here. That's why I had my colleagues with the model. was ich mit dem befreundeten Tischler gebaut habe, auch sofort überzeugt. Die sagten, wow, wenn du jetzt auf einmal in einen Raum kommst, der fast vier Meter hoch ist, dann hast du natürlich ein ganz anderes Raumgefühl. Das ist auch diese Idee für diese Box-Apartments, die dann an den Turm kommen.
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Yeah, definitely. I'm sure I'm in Berlin and here always in a new building or in an old building where the deck is so high, even if different feeling. It feels like a lot of water breathe.
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and Ja gut, da gab es eben halt eine Vielzahl. Also einmal natürlich, dass du als Apotheker in dem Apothekenmarkt, also als Nicht-Apotheker in
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The price has never changed. It was always clear that everyone who has a market will actually be in the other Apothekers. root el english um emapppo taking barai from an under an apu take on dan beket on the bikaur triangle come on top the acidid is counter would take a good net eappu damit um ah did roki feel aga asking king this mo dr on anlag on iron no mon run And the had a bring
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We will have to use a have to fight them. Because now we had that's just a bad thing.
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enlighten butha accosed and um does ibmalum For me, didn't understand it because I had to find the Discount-Up-Concept in the is
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so, dass er… Das ist kein Junk. Svdnit Römerlein Wissler Ja und ich glaube jetzt nicht mehr, ich will jetzt auch die Apothekerschaft nicht schlecht machen, aber dann ist das Thema, was ich nicht verstanden habe, dass ein Apotheker dann eine direkte Kundenbeziehung hat, das heißt den Kunden anspricht, ihn fragt, sicherlich auch berät, dann aber das eintippt, also auch seine gesamten Gehirnhälften eben halt mehrfach benutzt, indem er then berät, then then back then läuft, um that Medikament to buy, then maybe a copy of it etc. But I said, it's actually the only academic career that makes something like that. That would a lawyer someone else's not like that. And then also the Kassiervorgang makes. And all that, had in my mind, is absolutely not effective and that must be done. And then I started to say, well, Now we can build a store with a checkout store. Also as a fun fact, when I was in the first Discount Apotheque, was, and that's bad because I was also in the same way,
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I said, best if the Schlangen are in the place. Every concept where people are with a huge chunk of money is great. So what I did? had before the opening, because the stores said that would be nothing, took the Kassen out of the place, so that they only the opportunity to have one Kasse to bed. And I had a huge chunk of the money. And so I had to have instead of 100 customers, 1000 customers. I had the next day again a Kasse B there, because it was quite a bit of a quail. But showed them that you can just make certain opportunities from other branches, and the Apotheker very shockingly think about it. But that were also some of the things I said, we have to change the whole thing. If a doctor has a report, that's the only thing he should do. Then I got to get to the company's automatic automatic. That were to the point that was the most expensive. almost the model the doctor's model. There was a half million dollars for it. I said I just want to buy 40 and to the Commissionier Automatenhersteller because they said that this is just a bit of a deal. No, I want to buy 40 of the same, but I want to pay 80.000 € for that. That's what I got. And so I had the opportunity to have the only one in front of the Apotheker.
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berät, das Medikament eben halt in das Kassensystem eingibt und dann kam es hinten raus und der Kunde ist dann natürlich auch noch durch meinen Zwangslauf dann wiederum zur Kasse gegangen, hat dann noch viel mehr gekauft und dementsprechend war das ein gutes Konzept. Aber auch das sind alles ungeschriebene Gesetze gewesen. Wie muss sich ein Kunde auch in einer Apotheke bewegen? Und auch als ich das gedacht hatte,
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I have to say, I have to say, how can so and then I have to say,
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That was cool, because at the point of the place, um the football team for hait and vandan <unk>angacom hamsy and coppka norman alice ibha da wasman runs niant abu taker since she e to hiing gali alo embiinahe some maalus she comes and the And then And And
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yeah crazy, I'm just totally shocked. Should I just pause? Yeah, my wife is coming right in, she's coming right away. Everything is good. I'm just totally shocked, because I worked in a hospital, not as hospital, was 16, I was the Medikamenten-Bote, that was one of my first jobs.
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um And was asked to ask myself why this where the creams and on,
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clobbies chap noah
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I've seen very seldom, that one of the other people who worked there, used it. It was always just the Rezept that goes
Challenging Industry Norms
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back and goes back and goes back and goes back and goes back and I've always wondered what's in the Apotheque in the back and why is that there?
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Okay, ja gut. Mir wird das rausgebracht. Ich muss es rumfahren. Das hat mich zu der Zeit noch nicht gekümmert. Ich musste ja nicht nach hinten laufen. Aber alles, du jetzt beschreibst, das finde ich ja total abgefahren. Auch das mit dem...
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he so I say with the unwritten rule of the price-stumption between the Apothekers. My Uncle, he is a We the the And a That's okay. And then he said, I've done it once and then got here a brief from... And then I thought, what?
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this is so um But that's actually the of
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We 150.000 for every resident, just as tip. with him. then you get 150.000 per check. What is that? That's a
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I got 80% of the price. lister ai put sanrababoko because that's kind of designed to's say it might sufiia dafi ibhad all skipped nine does is I a
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And to go into such things and break it up and then say, that's just complete nonsense, that's not supposed to be, that's not supposed to be. That's not supposed to be.
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No, that's always been so. And is. for
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No, that's not. It must be a And that? individual to it.
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etc.
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For me was that parallel to see and ask myself, why does that make no sense? ah My uncle has it apparently also seen so, but he played directly with the fire and as of ca um v Also wenn du über solche Sachen nachdenkst oder alleine schon, du hast es dann ja gemacht bei der Easy Apotheke,
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inwiefern musst du oder breitest du dich dann schon auf den Fight vor? Also inwiefern denkst du schon darüber nach, wie groß der Fight sein wird?
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so weiter und so fort. Auch natürlich bis ins Private, da gab es There was a boycott, in in imberai habi ala buttika ea and and ashtadt gig mis kibra the one I all finfa um one hu not put send stuff on one gigame on um the
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sometimes done an oswell who kind of under the milkkage test And
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think three people had 150.000 € in Strafe, 10, believe I and a huge, insane effort. And that was just something um so it was but ni darktaber yabagada ikidayev el's ah that's nomala um ah marktaema honi besriidi and basically a did withzehib matan osi heli youn vidu said in aba these a vita stunt on v loiter ibmha mishtan a petishka markhta asking king byi fa familiarlia more than a take of a million um it met minor fa familiar than gabra um un savao on forth those fashion simmi car one dulicity for ya ni although doesn't say mu at was foru they naive based on the ski mi ima vida in bo and deundan I it. to the and it.
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azula and he help the upport taking lunch of tabifa endat So, and to
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Yeah, you have certain naivete, you have to look at it already, because in your mind everything is logical and good. I said, what can be bad if you buy a customer's products, and one was crazy, I made myself then finish.
00:39:19
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Also, have with eBay. I have the CEO America in America, that you
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an account that was professional, where you had a just So that we will start
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It was a
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and And a huge campaign against me, and all the Apothekers, the chefs etc.
Pursuing Innovation Despite Challenges
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were there saying, Mr. Blume, bring people up. And And
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Yeah. Oh man. I must say, was
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as they were more medical, which were also prescribed, including Paracetamol or Ibuprofen, there was the time that you couldn't just buy them in the Apotheque. I was still there, I studied to the time in the Netherlands. I had a lot of pain, I was super-gerned to the Arzt, because I think for the pain, don't have to go to the Arzt, um just Paracetamol or so to get to the Arzt.
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on And then said tamo i can't see a to a
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and suspectist emmanu zeu fer is iva apo take A of fliage okay us stand first i want place this fear on that it said a kind of i's fine name but assistant here but the logic?
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yeah hide so
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Okay. In the sense, what you said, just because you can't buy it so, that you can't buy it, or that you can bring to people. That's what you can do with it.
00:43:31
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I think that if okay. Good, good.
00:43:43
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I find it really interesting what you said. But let's not let the podcast in such a morbid way. No, no, no, no. It's going in the positive direction, worries. I find it really interesting. It gives me hope. I have often the feeling when speak with other companies, that they
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um before
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We know what I mean? And that, what you just described, I think that's good. It gives me Hoffnung in the sense of you don't have to miss about this whole thing knows. That comes, while you do it.
00:44:29
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That's also the of wouldn one ah see if we just breaking the infay And in in
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dia from you have a clear break. You have a clear break you have certain rules of the way to take away from you. And you have to take a break and
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who will ah this is Also, du Die Stadt sagte eben halt, ja, umso Ohne Fenster, Hotels ohne Fenster und das wird erfolgreich werden etc., du musst es eben halt umsetzen.
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Aber als ich dann eben halt das gemacht habe, mir eine Fläche gesucht habe, Baugenehmigung hingekriegt habe, In Göttingen, also in the same country, was unproblematical. They thought it was great. In Hannover came I and said it didn't go. And the former former former Yeah, that's gesundheitssendlich.
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issh Okay, good. have then first with Schlafforscher etc. talked about, why is actually a Fenster vita There came out that it wasn't. That was my idea. It's counterproductive to sleep. There are a
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vman zoan because that's ainov abouthar and thuswa could sna in greek There was law that the the a The
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but nakunngs in pce in in kabeva and of course what while does ccr canal those guohima whether they not the vagon hut and then ka ra vina for also of nu e in milardda um uba nachhun and bessets in kowarif from straktenunha in in kabi the avijaufai lifts How you see that?
Disruptive Hospitality Concepts
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Is of the And hotels. But also
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for me as disruptive entrepreneur, especially when it's hotels fast my In
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Somit gegen eine Stadt, also da hast als disruptiver Unternehmer auch keine um yeah kind of airfoed that's all bi anotsuze si noan amlessia finan le dama exvinanky great although he's been re shaed on so fazu as allar ein does this gazets einhaiten ver and fork kumla aba venu maxed the sign gazettes a baan and zinn aib dan dain so camin is familiar english shown find
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yep yeah yeah as i ski well um I was at the Box Hotel, when I saw that and all that's to mihaki in kst as a be gets swo that's su zion i said the sister that That's the argument the it
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as in holland ki ima do i you conceptor is in biouna fui horo tuition english the guinei loiter of mitch paststein the hama oktan be he in this deloitte bos imar zey mea and from ni kua ousaunham it's no other hotels a about good lu is out to come So is the Kampf, exactly. But I think it's super exciting, you say, the people go into a hotel, super important metric, not even the important one, is the good sleep.
00:52:58
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What is
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It's just like that. It's just like that. It's just like that people are going to leave it
00:53:32
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that's what is not really my imag gear or in giglilia art and does yeah the system even my mar ons on and That, I Yeah, not logical, but if there's a good argument for I okay. sense but alice vaswi bashrim has aslana e may i was in a fun status and have always done that's That's what's really going it's interesting, how first reacted a hotel room, which is just 4 square room.
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ah just bit of
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I would definitely try it. I think maybe, we know, the first time I saw a bed without a window, that was at the beginning, it only habit, but because it was just a lot of air, you know, you have a lot of air, you have to open the window, etc. But the air air has 1A, this habit of a habit, this habit of a habit has held a bit of air and that was it. And that was it then also.
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And if everything is done with everything, then everything is good. That's interesting. When I... We're going to and
00:55:27
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Yeah, good, that's always the way you combine
Quantum Computing in Germany
00:55:31
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things. And with but the Rebecca Society, that's I'm doing with the research institute in And there was about eight years ago, there was about the motto of quantum computing, and I had no idea I heard the word, I didn't know what's behind I thought that's just bigger computer.
00:56:03
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And the interesting thing was that I spoke with many foreign guests and there came often the question, why are you actually not leading the country in the quanticons, because quantum physics have done well found.
00:56:18
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And that was for me
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unt das verredo english eina vua de maisten vienhaftla also build um in con physiques And a to bes the In the and the taken
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and um he had a du ein and um I was a professor of the Congress, my jetzia partner also German and then
00:57:29
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went to England, Australia etc. started there and started there, and then started at the University of Sussex. At any point, I invited him to Germany and asked him what he could do, so that he came to Germany. His partner, partner, also this topic, then I made an offer and
00:57:58
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I went to the next place and then went to the next place.
00:58:07
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holy won kindpo answer um been done um to ah to menhenngerang un ha dan visited him in England and asked him what he could do to go to Germany. We were then with a few friends the first investor for this company. Then came over Corona the idea of Mrs. Merkel, about 2 Mrd. in the quantum computer. Then I did a little bit of work and we managed to get the biggest Auftrag from the Bundesregierung. I was in Germany and I was founded in Germany, I was founded in Germany, I was founded Germany, was founded in Germany, and then was founded in Germany.
00:59:05
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I'm now already in biggest company for quantum computing advisory board, I'm doing a bit of a job, I'm now in soul fineinbo lines so common and some bowel and yeah bider ib mild dardoch divin ah marri maassdi zchef that's manch my aan school via quantumus light mahikipisten ah diplomamatansin and op kofman the And now I'm just going to this ecosystem. It makes huge amount of fun and I have a leadership, but also from clear experience because I know what will happen with this. And if we have such a technology in Germany,
00:59:50
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but the device was started with paian verton when we and deutchcheland zo annotation lu guenish tarn then will that in with underin dem muartishian firsttinness um andf fun and um so you take noinine a a is And with the Hightech Agenda for the first time I am am going to do everything, that we will get to world again, that we will get to world again, that will get to technology to make
01:00:54
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the way it is game changer it is after, we this technology. From Crypto, that can all to Defense, and it. very important point. I am the one who tries to do it in ah this topic so to we the for Computing.
01:01:50
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as I find it super cool. like to see how you burn for find really cool. I'm neuro-science. I find it very sad in can be in so much world-fueling
01:02:06
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charter in deutschland suanne does where i click paid few and z can in zo fear and that they are not going be. That makes me really sad.
01:02:20
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ah Because it is you said, the or then they are then leading the world, but then also with our brain power. think it's just a shame because it's not so, as if we could do here.
01:02:46
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But we have learned it. Also, I say I always say that Germany had a great development, as the Kaisers said, we now have to build universities, we now have to build science, and for that money is just given to the end.
01:03:03
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then we had to a time before 100 years the most Nobel Prize, ah de maistan moin te luguin in geklisja art undaffa hung the
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And we can it,
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more or less so determined that research groups are great but they are not interested that you can find them somewhere. I think we have from 300.000 students, 3.000 students are every year.
01:03:46
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ah And that's a number of times. And when I'm at Stanford University, where the Etats have 20, 25 Mrd. every year, where they are just normal, where I'm in Tel Aviv, actually first recognized when they had 25 startups just created. That's all. And a of us amvi elib vi c zechne so and ngenu gaze shafka common oncein ibn mallo susan isn sha liing baha foska gun while daff is in vior or perfect we currentt engineer a the
01:04:32
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thanks Yes, that's true. I've seen it also. I was lot of in the USA. They have achieved, as you say Stanford, especially as you are also right there, they have achieved a to up, where the students actually from beginning to not only the scientific process and that engineering-based technology can get, but also directly to the Startup, start-up, to the start-up, and motor forward.
01:05:16
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01:05:36
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And I look at the people like that. Or what do you mean, what's the university then? I say, a minute, you can just go to a notar and then you're theoretically founded.
01:05:49
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But you're not step further. You have a paper and that's it. But that doesn't matter. The people need support. Especially the scientists.
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um this is niion pxction cast h invites off by fear And this year, where I often heard the big cry about the and top
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un interface a hyn on yas is from sona shara betterta And and nothing of it is increase here. And that's crazy.
01:06:45
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That's crazy. And it quantum computing, for run with time bus clubs to about What do you think about this situation here in Germany?
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And for it must be a political will give, where you say,
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01:09:01
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We stecken alles rein, okay, da ist jetzt so und so viel Geld drin,
01:10:09
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We had this with him Habeck, who had quite quickly money for the quantum computer.
Political Support for Tech Advancements
01:10:17
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for the pump and things etc. then gave up and then just took off the materials there. Where was upset, what of course probably made of his political career. Yes, that's my clientele, so I can win the Wahlen. But that's what they should not have. Politiker must have a long-term perspective over the legislative period. where they just say, what is the good and the right thing we are doing here for this state. And that means, that's autonomous, clear technology, which then again the whole of the economy can build up. And that's what I also to continue to put in the political world in the way.
01:11:04
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Total, also that on is, um in three years so in the other three years so. That's going to happen. It must continue to work on working until the break comes.
01:11:39
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but um I think it's a bit sad that is not single one of them. can i amrung its all ine as you have was thinking king deal let savorava ibhas says on ah ah lunni fainelow whohi muttan v hofman kuunna or and other f and polika intuziva in buddus can slug and sla hisar um i'm kind of sight messophilyan we must eat mil ramming in like it's all kind of and surely um we em my you are we haven't a in And so I hope I... SIGRID RÖSELER BORCHER Wir haben ja Geld. Das ist eigentlich ein recht wohlhabendes Land JOSEPH BORCHER Irgendwann hast du es nicht mehr. Also wenn du es nicht in Technologie investierst, wird eben halt dieser Speicher, den du hast an Wissen, an Firmen, an Hidden Champions, wird nicht mehr da sein. Also auch think we are the only country that is from the world that we have Hidden Champions. That's a question. Why do we say Hidden Champions? In other countries are the heroes and we say hide.
01:12:50
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the That's all a question that we have to do, where we have to do, where we have to do, where we have to do, where we have to do, that we have to do, that we have to do a clear role. We have to do, because we have probably the best democratic concept in the most countries. And we notice that the world changes drastically. And they will, if they have so many technologies, will they only for themselves. We can't get away from that, we can take them out, but they don't give them out. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to get to it. Also, um nochmal the topic the AI to stay. We get a lot of good things on the screen, with which we should be holding on, even if it's about cybersecurity, data protection, etc. I don't want to say that that's bad.
01:13:45
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Aber wenn es dann so heißt wie, ja, es sollen dann keine amerikanischen Firmen genutzt werden als Server oder Cloud Provider, denke ich mir, das ist ja okay. Aber wen soll ich denn dann benutzen? Ist ja keiner da. Und das finde ich dann irgendwie wieder so, ist so?
01:14:01
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Ich würde ja gerne jemand anderen nehmen, aber... It was built on, was built on, was built on, was built on. And that's how it feels like a two-year-old mass. With this, we can't hold but we can't hold on, even if we want it. is against magicric luck off because that's about big kon on nich my biggest and height and that's for of spoil in v It's also the and
01:14:42
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01:15:05
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ye Yeah, exactly. That's what I said. With quantum computing, when it's just about cryptographic protection, that's not to leave. I was at a conference where the leader of the BSI has something with the cyber attacks, which is the fact that Germany has not been done. And we don't fight there,
01:15:35
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even if it's just for the, on those, who invest have invested, or then you're just there.
01:15:46
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Yeah. Yeah. You, Oliver, I ask myself, by all the projects you have now, mean, it's not just few, the all you have on the table, say I now, what are
01:16:02
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va and What are the next steps for the cost of the cost? that's okay imson be have eli mohammad him this Is of Is
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01:17:21
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So many things where you try to work, like in the is is a thing of fantasy,
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Und das ist Yeah, I think that's always a about
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you then have to go to the because a change has for of the creative destruction. satuun i mahad gabatta that's queer automated to kriger by krieger ibha was
01:19:41
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And so was of in the then make a model completely new. And You have a super humus where new things and new things can perfect grow. And that must be in
01:20:10
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and that's what makes me feel like this, that's what makes me feel like this, that's what I'm trying to change. I think the push is to go forward.
01:20:23
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yeah yeah i stopp at pushing a fauna does ah yeah Ohne Angst push nach vorne.
Germany's Potential in Global Tech Innovation
01:20:31
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Da müssen wir wieder hinkommen.
01:20:34
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Und das ist in da gab es irgendeinen, der konnte wahrscheinlich gut reden oder hatte sonst irgendwelche Möglichkeiten, die Leute zu überzeugen.
01:20:50
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And he said, we have to go out of this town and he told them that probably after next river, that, as it's always so nice, milk and honey, flies. And he said, he said, that's not a problem.
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01:22:06
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Yes, yes, of course. Also, eine Frage, die ich noch habe, ist, also ich finde das ja wirklich spannend, wie du hier rangehst, also an alle Projekte. Ich kann jetzt den roten Faden immer ein bisschen besser sehen.
01:22:31
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okay, dieses Buch, wow, das hat schon ein bisschen was mit mir gemacht, das kann ich empfehlen. Do you have something for the listeners? No, have few books. Of course, few researchers, was for a a so,
01:23:20
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think that idea of just and
01:23:42
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aba If you can reflect well and think about things, why are they so, why are they so, why are they then it's better you go with a free thought of things. Sometimes you have to forget that you have to forget with your own experiences, with the things you have read, that you just break down and just think about how it could be better, what are the reasons for people to decide and what can be done so that it can change. And that's maybe the red flag that you have sought. If you do that with the passion, then it's better for me. And so mean in areas that many people I think there are studies that say there are certain theories that you have to hold on to the right. In medicine is positive, so you should have learned something to use.
01:24:51
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All Rule Breaker, which know, are exactly those who have made knowledge of other branches and free thinking, have been able to go new ways. These new ways are, my opinion, what a society needs.
01:25:13
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01:28:53
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01:31:02
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That's sad. think that we have much potential Germany and we can improve the world, we can change the world. And that
01:31:22
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