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Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of a favorite action animated series, yeah.
Introduction and Co-host Absence
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Yeah, welcome back to another episode of animation deliberation, the podcast where we take action and cartoons seriously, but not too seriously. We are your hosts, I am Zuhara Lee. And I am Andrew Rogers.
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Jay Scottie is on another devil hunting assignment, whether it be in a galaxy far, far away or around the corner. We have no idea. We don't ask questions. We just know he's busy. Well, I mean, when you are a devil hunter, there's a lot of things that are put on your shoulders. So, you know, it's it takes away from the life sometimes. Yep. We're going to talk about devil hunters. But first off, we're going to hit a little bit of news and we're going to start off with the most depressing one yet, the legendary.
Tributes to Kevin Conroy
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Kevin Conroy has passed away at the age of 66. He is Batman. He is the greatest Batman. You cannot argue me on that. And it is a time of mourning, so unless you're an asshole, keep your other thoughts to yourself.
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He was a great voice actor from Batman made a series to a majority of the movies. To finally actually get him to see him play Batman in a live-action role on Crisis of Infinite Earths. You know, it's just, there's no other word other than iconic. He's just a brilliant voice actor. He set the standard for how to convey the balance between Batman and Bruce Wayne. It is just a huge loss.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm getting chills at, you know, hearing you talk about it. It was a, it was a big moment when we talked about this off air when it happened. And I can't say it any better. Iconic is the word. And, you know, we talk about how many legacy actors take on characters. And I don't think anyone is more of a legacy actor than he was, because
00:03:16
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literally every iteration of Batman that came after was just trying to hit the same marks that he did flawlessly in the animated series and everything after that. Like, without a doubt, he influenced a generation helped to, you know, make that show as popular as it was that then influenced animation, voice actors, everything across the board. He was just such a noted name. And, you know, there's no other
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other things than we can say, but he is a great and he will be missed, of course. Yep, there's, there's no other like him. That's all we got for that. So you know, praying for his hand only praying for, you know, Mark Hamill, who was his rival as the Joker for so long, you know, it affects people in various ways. But
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You know, there's a beautiful comic strip. I don't know if it's been posted to the socials yet. I think it was DC that put it out, but it was...
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It was Batman answering a call to the bat signal. I'm not sure if you've seen this yet. No. And Gordon's like explaining the mission and Batman's not saying anything.
Impact of Kevin Conroy's Batman
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And he was like, even for you, you're really quiet today. And he hands up a folded piece of paper. And as Gordon opens it, it says, I lost my voice.
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And then he swings off and Gordon says, like, I'm sorry for your loss. And then it cuts to Batman with the tear coming down his eyes swinging and says, I am too. Rest in peace, Kevin Conroy. Oh, my gosh, it was.
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It was a moment I sure hope that DC Studios was flying a bat signal that night. It needed to be honored because there was another one that I saw that I think I reposted, but if not, and it was just Mark Hamill, I believe, was the one that reposted the fan art originally, and it was just Joker clutching the cape saying goodbye old friend in the idea of they're not one without the other. Yes.
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Yeah, Hamill was a noted friend of his, so I can only imagine what it is like to be in his life right this moment. I just sent you the image if you want to give the live reaction. I don't know if I want to cry live on air, like that's... Oh my god, that's things to talk about. We'll lighten up the mood quick. Jeez. It's beautiful. Whoever did this, this is the original animation style and... The colors and everything, like it's just...
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It's so evocative. It's just an emotional moment and it sucks because our next piece of news is not an Upper either All right, well rest in peace Batman tell us about Tell us about a new trailer that we have
Pixar's 'Elemental' Trailer Reaction
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Oh right, that's in the middle. This is an exciting one. The Elemental trailer dropped today. Now for those of you who are unaware, Elemental is the upcoming 2023 Pixar movie. It is essentially going to be about the elements that are alive, so it's literally like a city of earth, water, fire, and air, and our two main characters are a fire
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female and a water male that are going to go on some sort of adventures in. I've seen the trailer at this point. I know Zoo hair hasn't it reminded me a lot of like Zootopia in the way that.
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It feels like they're building this world of like everyone on the train has a specific purpose in the way that the rocks work. Like the plants are all reacting to the water people. Like it just seems like it's going to be a really good world building movie. We didn't get any of the plot in the trailer, but it's still something exciting and something to come out of it. So Avatar meets Zootopia.
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Yes and no, because I mean, they are literally like when I say a fire girl, like she is a ball of fire like that. Yeah. Like when I say elements, they are like literally the element that they are meant to be like it's a droplet of water, an actual like flame. There's a rock. That sounds like very beautiful.
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It looks, it's Pixar. Pixar is doing Pixar things, yeah. It just looks like it's gonna be another great one. So we'll see what comes of it. All right. Well, speaking of other animation, oh wait, it's an animation podcast.
Grogu Animation Disappointment
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We reported a couple of weeks ago that we were excited to hear that Star Wars had partnered with Ghibli and we were like, is it a show? Is it a movie? What big project are we getting? Tell them what that project ended up being.
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a five minute Grogu short. And I'm sure that this short is beautiful. There is also another asterisk that I feel like kind of deserves to go on this is it's like hand drawn animation from what I read. So I don't even know if it's the usual like full on Ghibli animation or if it's a love letter to old animation. Like I said, I'm sure it's beautiful.
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But just, I don't fault Star Wars. I don't fault Ghibli. I fault all of the news sources that came out with the headlines that were in big bold letters. This is gonna be the next big thing. Lucasfilm and Studio Ghibli teaming up for the first time. It's like, holy crap, they have a chance of beating Star Wars the Clone Wars animation on a monumental scale. It was just...
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Read your news carefully folks because sometimes even those of us that go to trusted news sources because we generally vet our sources before we try and report things. We open the articles too. Yeah, those sources were reporting basically just rumored information at that point. All that they knew was that there was a project.
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So I'm sure at some point we will have some more to talk about in that vein when we actually watch it because it came out this past weekend. But as of now, that is out there for any of you who are fans of Baby Yoda Grogu. I have heard that it is a fun little beautiful jaunt. Well, for what it is, enjoy more Star Wars content. Still got a couple weeks of Andorra left.
00:09:48
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And then nothing until we talk about Bad Batch. Yeah, Bad Batch is next. Wow. Bad Batch, Attack on Titan and Jujutsu Kaisen are all like in the same time frame.
Deep Dive into Anime Shows
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I mean, we don't know when Demon Slayer is. It could also appear. Is it not February or March?
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I don't know. I don't think anyone knows. Well, I can confirm those three things. We always got a lot to talk about. And speaking of lots to talk about, we have a segment called and a minute coming up. We got three shows to talk about. We get one minute each and all of them. Which one would you like to kick it off with? I feel like we always start with spy. So let's just keep that train rolling. All right. After you.
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This is episode 19, a revenge plot against Desmond.
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So yeah, once again, Spy Family just absolutely blowing it through the roof with this bizarre story. Like, didn't have to be anything special, but I just had so much fun with it. Like, this kid going off the rails, you knew something was going wrong. And Anya just, like, playing along while everyone else was kind of a main character, like, trying to play into this kid's shenanigans. Well, she's like, here's a leaf. Enjoy. Like, not actually having any
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Full understanding of what's going on and it was just also perfect like kids get things wrong that he overheard his dad saying something thinking oh my life is over actually no your life is probably better for it now it's just. One of those things and then this your episode was so good so much fun we got so much of the stuff that like we've been wanting to see just watching her do gymnastics off buildings and loyd freaking out like wait what is she doing here.
00:11:49
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just so much goodness out of these characters. Yeah, the fact that she gives the leaf and then when they was dropped the line is like you better give all that stuff back and it flashes back to the leaf just floating away like the little details of the show is just truly impeccable. Yeah, everything with your you know, she's 100% wife material, the fact that she packed all that up and it wasn't even gym class day was hilarious. It's just everything about that from
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You know, it being this deep revenge plot and unveiling this new character to it being so sappy. And then Anya's face towards her friend when she started singing, it's like, are you serious? And, you know, Desmond dancing and all that stuff, just all about it. Just, yeah, this is just a fun show. Like, I don't even care about Bigger Picture anymore. We're loving every second that we get of this. BORF. BORF.
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just that time filler and uh one thing i did realize this week like 20 seconds left did you really wow yeah take it yield my time take it well i just realized this week we talked about a couple weeks ago that mappa does the intro and outro which like is now confirmed
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I didn't realize the studio that's doing this is Wit, that did the first three seasons of Attack on Titan, and then map us the studio that took over. And I'm like, so now they're just working together and doing intros for each other's shows.
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I'm like, I'm curious that I was talking about where it's like apparently it's not unusual for like animation studios to like outsource a lot of the work to other big studios. So even with like American stuff like it is like very tied together to like who you trust or you work within this and that but the fact that it's like that consistent of a.
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of a project is really cool because you would think that like MAPPA just kind of took the project like they were like you're better you're gonna do the last one but it turns out it was just like hey they were better equipped for it and they still need these things to work together and we have all these projects in the future and that's a really cool collaboration yeah I don't know how MAPPA had any time for that though at the same time having to work on Jujitsu Kai's in Chainsaw Man and Attack on Titan but they did a great job also that outro was not something that you skip
00:14:02
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doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. It's on my anime playlist. Yeah, it's, and it's, there's some of those scenes that are like unnecessarily beautiful in that outro, like them in the kitchen. I'm just like, why is this so pretty? It's so perfect. And speaking of anime playlists, that song actually comes right after the theme song to Chainsaw Man. You want to talk about that?
00:14:31
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Oh, you know I am. Do you want to go first or? You sound excited. Go for it. OK, yeah, I'm getting my timer out because I watched this one last night, so this one's fresh.
00:14:43
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do it. This is one of the best episodes, I think that I have seen I was immediately immersed in all of it. The character writing was so good. It was just enough that like they weren't stupid about figuring it out. But as a viewer, you got to figure it out so much quicker than they did. And there's just all these pieces coming together. And we don't even know these characters yet. But they're reacting like humans having panic attacks and doing all these things.
00:15:07
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Oh, it was just so good. Eternity as a devil is actually a terrifying concept when they revealed that's what it was. And there's just so many layers to it. It was so good. The music that I want to point out is actually not music in this episode. Throughout the entirety of the scenes where they were like figuring out what to do, there was no music. So it was just the constant ticking of the clock.
00:15:29
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Causing you to have anxiety as they're having panic attacks watching them basically stab each other and turn on each other It was just so perfectly emotionally evocative and I don't even care. We had like no action in this episode I was glued to the screen the entire time this shows amazing
00:15:45
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One minute. So after this this arc is over, I really do want to have this fun fact that like everything that happened happened like within the span of like 30 minutes and they're just like really impatient, crazy people. I am forgetting her name, but I absolutely love the ghost hunter or the ghost devil. Her flashbacks and her origin story and everything is truly phenomenal. Like everything about her design and powers and everything is super cool.
00:16:14
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It is kind of sticking with what I feel about the show is that it's very film noir and they're taking their time with all this stuff and I have to keep reminding myself of that because it's just so much build up for cliffhangers. And if this next episode is not going batshit crazy with action,
00:16:32
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it's gonna be really hard to dial myself back because the build up and everything is fine and it's great but like stuff like that the episodes need to be an hour so we'll see how next week goes but I hope it's a wild one five seconds all right we're getting good at this yeah but uh we have one more still left to do and this one is all you
'Spy Family' Episode Review
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This one is all me with bleach thousand year blood war. Oh my god, another like season so gut wrenching. And like I said, I haven't even watched all of bleach leading up to this and I love every bit of it. You have the biggest, baddest mofo around in the Soul Society after a thousand years being like, you know what? I'm going to fight. I'm going to finish this up. He shows all of his power that he's never unveiled before.
00:17:19
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He's beating the daylights out of the villain. You wonder why you even need Ichigo. And then all of a sudden you find out that it was a plot just to get him to expose everything. And the villain was actually like hiding behind the scenes and watching and plotting the whole time and then took the old man's powers away. Everybody is screwed in this. And like the closing music is so freaking beautiful. I absolutely love the song.
00:17:44
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But when it just cuts out to like the slow fade and you see this graveyard of all the captain's swords and stuff, man, this every weekend, you just the way these episodes end make you feel so hopeless. Oh, God, I had the minute right there.
00:18:04
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That's amazing, and honestly, listeners, we haven't gotten much feedback, but I really hope you are all enjoying these Anna minutes, because I get to be a listener to something like this when Zuhair goes off like that, and he has me so sold and so intrigued, and just, you know, when I have free time, perhaps I'll pick it up, but like, I hope that you are getting as hype as we are, because I am so, so invested in a show that I am hearing a minute about every week at this point.
00:18:33
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Just listen to how the song starts. Imagine one of the coolest characters you've ever seen has just lost all of his powers and is literally staring at death. And then it fades to this.
00:19:03
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It's literally just that music, black and white, a graveyard of all the captain's swords. It's emotional is what that is for sure. That's another song that you can skip, but it's also like me trying to process everything I just saw, because I was like cheering and like, yo, this is sick. And I told you the way they do fire in the show. Look, it's on par with how they did Rengoku. Hmm, that is that's a high bar.
00:19:30
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High bar, and I know you think Studio Piero is lame because you think Naruto is lame, but oh it looks beautiful
00:19:37
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I never said Naruto is lame. I feel like this is a Fisherman story where every week the thing that I said keeps getting blown out of proportion. Yeah, 100%. You're awful for saying that, and I'm going to make you realize that every week. That's how my heart feels, Fisherman story. I'm just trying to remember. I'm pretty sure I said it was, like, median. Yeah, like, nothing wrong with it. It's like, you know, for an anime that has just, you know, very simple design, it's nothing too exciting. I was like,
00:20:09
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we are animation deliberation. There is a conversation that has to happen for it to be a true, you know, true review of whatever's going on, but I feel like we've taken up enough- I'll liberate these birds. Deliberate. We've taken up enough time with this crazy non-anime, or not non-anime talk, non-my hero talk, and I know that's what you're all secretly here for, so why don't we jump right into it?
00:20:37
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I don't know why I was so obnoxious about drinking my water just now, but hey, we stay hydrated on the show. That was, that really was like a child drinking like the full big sip. Like I just want everyone to feel like they're sitting with us. All right. Disaster walking episode seven of my hero academia season six. Do you want to take over the synopsis? I can do that.
00:21:06
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Also disaster, we do need a soundboard because I want to get like an Anna minutes, like filler, plug, soundbite, whatever you'd call it to like play before it like bridge into the segment. Okay. Is it disaster Walker or disaster walking as well? You said walking, but I believe we said it was Walker at the top. And I just want to make sure the listeners are getting the walker sounds cooler, but whatever walking does Walker.
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Episode 7, Disaster Walker. A news helicopter reports in on the devastating destruction of Jakku City. With All Might watching on nervously, in the city, Shigaraki is able to efficiently deal with Endeavor and Ryokyu's attacks.
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While the heroes attempting to assist are forced to face against the newly awakened near-high-end Nomu. Nomu with the strength of a high-end but lacking coherent thoughts. Shiguraki tries to use this opportunity to kill Eraserhead, but Deku suddenly arrives and tackles him, declaring his and Bakugo's intentions to save their teacher. As Endeavor returns to the battle, he agrees to let the two students join in the fight. Shiguraki hopes to try and capture Deku and escape, but in the process he ends up calling him his little brother, surprising the two.
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He realizes that the will of his master still persists within the quirk, rejecting it and declaring his desire to be better than all for one. The heroes proceed to overwhelm Shigaraki with their coordinated attacks. Meanwhile, at the villa, Giganto Machia carries the League of Villain members on his back in an attempt to reach Shigaraki. Right before he does, Dabi snaps
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nabs skeptic to take with him, planning to use him for a specific purpose. Mount Lady is able to barely hold off Gigantomachia, slowing him down while being pushed backwards. Midnight attempts to use his quirk to send the villain back to sleep, but is thwarted by the attacks of Dobby and Mr. Compress, which knocks her onto the ground, injuring her. She calls on Yau Yousuru. Yau Yousuru. Or is it Yomo that they call her? I think it's Momo. Momo.
00:23:11
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Yo-yo Momo, uh, and tells her to create anesthetics in order to put the beast to sleep, just as their call is cut off. With the heroes busy fighting the villains and only the UA students remaining, Yayourozu takes charge, issuing orders to her classmates as they prepare to intercept Gigantamakia.
00:23:31
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And, like, if the length of this synopsis is anything to go by, like, I was reading what I felt like was the normal length, and that was just the first half of the episode. Like, it felt like two episodes occurred in one. I almost stopped you after the first half, just till I talk about that half, and then read the other half, but, like... Oh, the show is so stinking good! I mean, you know, we finished with the Yaya Rosa stuff, so I'm just gonna go over there. I was terrified for Midnight.
00:23:58
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Oh my God, like, I still see her as like this. You know, just the fan, the fan service character, but like they have not overdone it this season at all with her and her telling orders and, you know, keeping her students calm. Like she was seriously like, Hey, if you can do this, even though it's against the rules, help us out. If not, just go run away. Like it's fine. We'll figure it out.
00:24:28
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I don't want to put you in danger, but I know what you guys are capable of. So I'm trusting you guys to make the call on what you're comfortable with. That was such a powerful sentiment before she gets knocked the F out.
00:24:43
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rules that she was referring to was like, she talked about the law, like it's illegal to sedate Gigantamakia. Oh, I'm taking it. Yeah, that was it was a very interesting way that she phrased that aside from like, Okay, what are you capable of? But yeah, it was just
00:25:02
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It was his heart wrenching moment of like, what is she going to do? We've talked about how she's kind of getting into this leadership role. She is obviously the leader of the class. But what was that really going to look like when it came time to make these harsh decisions? And she just snapped into that leadership. She was ready to go. And I'm quite the panic attack. It felt more like an internal panic attack, though. Like it wasn't the outward I don't know what to do. It was very like,
00:25:31
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It felt like this was supposed to be a 30-second thing that happened, and then she made the decision. I took it as outward because of the way everybody was like, hurry up, tell us, what do we need to do? I think because they're familiar with her, they saw the shock of like, what's your orders, Captain?
00:25:54
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Yeah, which makes me like it even more because like these at the end of the day, these are kids we're talking about. I got this into this huge debate with my friend the other day about heroes and about
00:26:07
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how they don't have to always go out as heroes. Life gets the best of you. Sickness gets the best of you. Your internal demons and stuff get the best of you. And this is a part of her character that we've been familiar with for about six years now, six seasons now.
00:26:27
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So to see her go through that, we worry for her, we see the growth, we see the development, but we as an audience know she has this tendency of panicking. So it's awesome that she's able to get through it and we'll see the results of what she comes up with.
00:26:46
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But it's important to know that this is a character trait that you didn't just magically get over. It's still something that she copes with. Like I've been a photographer for about 14, 15 years. I still get like fidgety and panicky to every shoot that I drive through throughout the day. So to see that within this character of like making the decisions of people's lives at stake, I think it's super important that we acknowledge that she has this tendency and she's actually working through it to be the best version of herself.
00:27:16
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Oh, yeah, I couldn't put it any better. And that's exactly what I was gonna say, whether it's inward or outward, it was still amazing as an audience to get to see that. But then also the fact that her friends and some who aren't even her friends, because you have class two there as well, that was her class B.
00:27:33
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still ready to listen to the order. What do we need to do? How are we going to do it? And as much as it was kind of that cliche, I still couldn't help but smile as she wanted to be like, you don't have to stay here. And common areas is a common area. No common areas. Yes. Yes.
00:27:53
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Okay, how Kamenari was just like, you don't have to say it, let us stay with you and fight. Like just having them all have each other's backs. It was just, it got you so hyped up for whatever's coming. And it's back to this show doesn't feel long enough every week, you're chomping at the bit that episode ends and you're like, how can that be it? Where's that next step? What is it going to be? Because they didn't put it as like, oh, this anesthetic is gonna be easy to
00:28:21
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get in Gigantamakia, I guess, well, they produced it. But like, Gigantamakia has got hard skin. I don't know how this is actually going to like, work if it's an injection if they have to make them swallow it if it's by smell. Yeah, like it is. It's that same level of beer though, as the Armor Titans. So like, there's a lot going on and they didn't make it an easy answer. So now suddenly our students are in the full thick of it. While also the villains are on this thing's back. So there is
00:28:51
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There's a lot that's going to happen. And I cannot wait to see the showcase of powers that we're also going to get because they kind of gave us that reminder of like, well, we have, you know, the mud guy that can turn the ground different. We have mushroom girl, we have all of our one a students. So how are they going to weave this together to be a plan that works? I cannot wait to find out. Oh, I'm gonna call my shot right now that mushrooms are going to end up on Gigantamakos nose.
00:29:20
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Because I remember she put out the ones that almost killed Tokoyami and they had to call the match. Yeah, no. She's got that power. It's just a question of what works on Gigantamaki more than anything. Yeah. And just the fact that she has options that are that dark. And of course, seeing Jiro and I always forget the dude with the multi arms.
00:29:45
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having them as the the recon of trying to find out how far is he how tall is he how much time do we have like that that high maintenance like military like just talk give me the information stuff it was it was a great way to wrap the episode and like I wish I could apologize to the creators
00:30:04
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because you know where they were typically have a commercial break like they show the character and the powers so we had I think it was Deku and then it cut to midnight and I was like I don't care about that story right now I'm more interested in this I want to talk about sugar hockey what the hell is happening to Endeavor and then when it played out I was like I'm sorry
00:30:27
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I had the exact same reaction I'm like wait you're not telling me that's all we're going to get of that side of the story like this is the most insane emotionally evocative side of it oh no well actually the other side could do it too so I guess we should jump back to the beginning of the episode as well no I'm not done yet because I was scared I mean like
00:30:48
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I was scared for midnight but like we didn't talk about how like when we saw the teaser to get into this episode we thought that Mount Lady was gonna go like toe to toe and she was just being dragged the whole time. That part alone was terrifying and then Dobby to have the balls to be like let's hop on and make their lives a little more miserable.
00:31:08
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like we remember midnight's powers we're like oh she's gonna flex right now like she's gonna single-handedly bring this bid due down it's gonna be awesome nope I felt so bad for Commie Woods I was so terrified for him because he's literally just wood and then got hit with blue flames I was like I really like him don't kill him don't kill him don't kill him
00:31:28
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um, Mount Lady's just getting the snot beat out of her. I love her grit, though, just how persistent she is. Like, just stop now. Oh, it's the last night of my morning. Like, she's falling down even more than gets kneaded by her legs. Um, so yeah, it's just absolutely terrifying to see our heroes in that situation. Midnight like can't even turn over and there's like five villains creeping up. So
00:31:53
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You know, we'll see what happens. But I had to mention all the other parts of that because it was just like what I said with bleach. Like every time you think there's hope, like they just kept getting kicked again. You know, they kept reassuring the students. It's like, hey, don't worry, like we're going to take care of it at the front. Like you're just here as backup, you know, just in case probably won't even need you. And now it's like, hey, you're all that's left. Figure it out.
00:32:16
Speaker
Yeah, like, I love how good the show is that like, I should have seen it coming. I should have known that the students were going to be the literal last line of defense. But now that it's happening, I'm in disbelief that we're actually about to watch them save their aisles teachers and
00:32:35
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you know, the number two, three and four heroes that are hanging out there with them. Like, that's a bizarre concept. And they're just setting up so many things that I don't know what to keep track of anymore. Because until I read this synopsis, I also completely forgot that Dobby decided he was going to go back and get a skeptic. I couldn't remember his name. It's ability like I see him on the computer. Is he just like an Intel dude?
00:33:05
Speaker
I think it's Intel. I'm guessing his quirk just makes those things work better. Because if I remember correctly, he was just doing all of like the tech stuff in like the villain city when they had that fight last season. But I don't think it was ever like expressly talked about, Oh, here's exactly what his quirks do. Or if it was, it was a bit overshadowed by all of the other quirks that you know, we're fighting twice at that point.
00:33:33
Speaker
When I typed in his name on the wiki and went under abilities, it says company board member, audio video editing, hacking skill, leadership skill, tactical skill. Oh, by the way, his power. I was like, Oh my God. Um, meta's ability allows him to take a human sized object such as a desk or refrigerator and turn it into an extremely lifelike look like of any given person, which he can control. Yeah. Yeah. We did know that. That was, that was a thing.
00:34:02
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I didn't get to, when I was doing my rewatch, I didn't get to the, the villain Academy part. I stopped like in the middle of, like when Deku's whip power opened up. Yeah, that was like the last season that I watched. And then I immediately started watching Mob Psycho, where they also had a weird, the villains own a tower and we have to fight our way up arc. So like, I just keep getting the wires crossed when like talking about that arc in general, because they do very different things in those arcs.
00:34:34
Speaker
One of the things you and Scoots mentioned last week is how you want all these heroes to appear portal style. It made me remember that Uraraka, Tokoyami, Asui, all of them, they don't even know what's going on yet because the radio cut off. Yeah. Are they still helping with evac? Are they going to show up? Are they going to fight Nomus? Because in the opener,
00:35:03
Speaker
I'm not a huge fan of the song, it's alright, but it ends with Bakugo Deku and Shoto. Oh yeah, Shoto's got a show on. He's gonna pop up and ball out. So they didn't really, because as much as the Nomus were like an air quotes big deal, they really weren't as much like with that being the cliffhanger of last episode because
00:35:26
Speaker
If I remember correctly, Endeavor's flaming-haired sidekick showed up with a bunch of heroes and they're fighting the near-high ends. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get to see it yet, but Shoto is amongst those people that are helping to fight the near-high ends, or they're going to come in the next round, perhaps? I think they're coming in the next round because when Endeavor saw Bakugo and Deku, he was like, where's Shoto? Like, right away. He was like... Oh, that was a moment.
00:35:56
Speaker
Yeah, just in the middle of the fight, like, oh, man, Deku's entry! Oh my gosh, yeah, like... That was sick! He was like, all this stuff about Aizawa, like, flashing back, he's like, I'm doing this for my students, there's so much more to see of them, and this and that, and Deku is like, hi! I'm here.
00:36:13
Speaker
Aizawa nearly gets Best Sensei Award. And that's a high bar to get when you have all of the great anime big brother sensei characters out there. But just that reflection of how much he really cared about them, how much he was always doing, how he was always there. The fact that Deku's emotion took over and all of them were like, wait, where did you come back to? He's like, if he can't hurt me, I'm going to hurt him. Let's do this. It's time to throw hands.
00:36:41
Speaker
and you know that you can track them too so it's like how far is he actually gonna run i don't know if they figured out the tracking i wouldn't put it past deku but yeah even bakugo like still holding on like all the stuff that happened him with the villains earlier on he was like i'm not done with you yet either and he hits like the multi shot oh my god the comment of like was that just supposed to tickle and then it was the big boom i was like yo
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, I don't want the season to end, but whatever this final fight is about to look like is gonna just go ham. Yeah, I got one thing spoiled for me and I'm kinda just waiting for that to happen.
00:37:21
Speaker
Um, I'm just processing how intense everything is. Like I'm struggling to put it into words, which is not very helpful for an audio podcast. Well, it is interesting because Scoots and I, as many of the listeners will know, we went pretty short last week. And at the end of the episode, we were like,
00:37:40
Speaker
All right, why why were we so short? And it was just because like last week's episode was a fight the whole time. And what are we going to talk about on the podcast? Well, they fought and they fought some more. Whereas this week, there's so much substance to the wise and the house of what they fought that I just I agree with you. It's hard to put into words because there's so much happened. I just remember sitting there trying to take it in at the end of the episode like
00:38:06
Speaker
No, I don't know. It's just all happening so rapidly. And I think that if I could get one wish of this season, I wish they did the same thing that they did with the save Aerie arc. I want the timestamps of like, is this like an hour that all of this is happening at once? I just love knowing those little tidbits of like,
00:38:30
Speaker
what it actually looks like when we're seeing so much in slow motion. The command center and like giving updates about what's happening and who's not contacting like that'd be a great time for the timestamp. Yeah, just throw them
'My Hero Academia' Strategy Analysis
00:38:43
Speaker
on the screen somewhere. That would be a perfect way to do it because you have to assume most of this is going on congruently between the two locations at the very least. So deployed all at the same time.
00:38:54
Speaker
Yeah, so it is feeling very stretched out, but what is that actually going to look like? You know, because I also don't have a great grasp on how far away the Villa is to the hospital. Like how far does Gigantamakia have to run to get them there? And as such, how big of a distance do the students have to try and stop Gigantamakia? I think it is a relatively short distance.
00:39:21
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because they're operating out of those two spots, so I imagine they don't want too long of a commute. I mean, but they also couldn't one of the Nomu's portal. I mean, when you have a Kurogiri in your arsenal, does it really matter how far away you have to? I mean, I'm not disagreeing, but is the doctor that smart?
00:39:47
Speaker
Dude, if I know you need to have plant bees, the villainous doctor knows you need to have plant bees. This is the first time this season that we saw All Might and Arie. Not for very long. Yeah, also, the synopsis did not mention that Arie was there like, I'm sorry, All Might, you need to censor this. Like, she should not be watching whatever this newsreel is. Like, this is some intense stuff going on for a very, very small, sheltered child.
00:40:10
Speaker
I was thinking that it was an odd time for him to be babysitting and then I thought about it. I was like, wait, everybody else is gone. Like who else would be babysitting her right now? Except for the principal. I was just about to say, where's the principal? Is he about to just like pop off in this fight? I'm honestly surprised he's not in the command center. Heroes that were traitors, heroes that were traitors, somebody else like came in and like got ahold of them already. So like every hero is doing something right now.
00:40:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah, no, it's it's an all hands on deck kind of situation. And it made me worried at the beginning of the episode if All Might was going to like join the fray and try and save Deku. So I'm happy to see that he has babysitting duties because it feels like he will be sidelined throughout all of this. Yeah. Seeing Shigaraki kind of have that inner monologue with himself when
00:41:09
Speaker
all for one was starting to take over. Oh my gosh. And like the dialogue started lining up and he said it and everybody was like, what are you talking about? And he was like, you know what? I appreciate everything you did for me, but you did it your way and you messed up. We're doing this my way now. Oh boy. His way is scary. His way is very scary because I like his way.
00:41:34
Speaker
There's still so much of his power that we're like, just tapping into the way that he's maneuvering himself the way that he's resisting these flaming attacks. He still has. He still has like the gun fingers that we have no idea what they're gonna do. Like, there there's fingers. You really just got his fingers cut off. I think it was just like, just a placeholder.
00:41:56
Speaker
I don't know. It looks like those are like the barrel of a gun or something. Oh, is that how he's going to? Is that how he's going to shoot the the anti-quirk bullets? Maybe. Ooh, that's that's a thought right there. Yeah, I just thought it was like instead of bandages, that's just like the bling that he put on because he lost his fingers in the last season.
00:42:18
Speaker
I guess that makes some sense, but I feel like if you're doing full body modifications like that doctor did, you're gonna, you know, give him something. No, I'm curious. Huh. I don't know. There's so much going on under the hood that, like, again, we haven't scratched the surface because I don't, I don't think I don't want Aizo to die. Let's start there. I don't think he will, but I have a feeling he's going to go out of commission in some capacity. Yeah.
00:42:48
Speaker
And then when the quirks open up, what does that look like? And he's already like limited compared to when we first met him. Because when he got his face smashed into the ground of bazillion times, like they said afterwards that he can't use this quirk for nearly as long as he used to be able to. Yeah, so that that poor guy struggling. Yeah, no, there's that he has to blink eventually.
00:43:16
Speaker
and his legs are basically broken, so there's a lot of problems, as well as how long does it take for him to figure out if he leaves Aizawa's sight that he can use his quirks? I think he knows that, but he's trying to get Deku, so he has to be within range. Right. Because he even had the line of, like, you have to know that if you can see me, that means I can see you, and that's when he tried attacking.
00:43:43
Speaker
But I'm even just thinking like you go behind a building and you can use your decay again like. The minute you get out of sight, he is all powerful again, so.
00:43:58
Speaker
Maybe just destroy too many buildings. Maybe I don't know that I don't want to get you deep into it I don't want to dig that plot hole because that's about the only one that I've always questioned is just like okay Well, what if you just like go around the corner, but also at the same time? How much power can be got in the power or in the time that it takes to blink is another question I've always had like
00:44:21
Speaker
you know, just do a do a quick little blink their eyes out, you're good to go. You don't have to close your eyes permanently. Like how much can he do in a quarter or a quarter of a millisecond? As long as it takes to blame you do when I have dry eyes and I take my contacts out like I'm sitting there with my palms like just digging my face for a few minutes.
00:44:38
Speaker
It's so dry. I mean, yeah, miserable feeling. Oh, my God. And I get somebody's powers is literally just to water his eyes and keep it like force it open. But like, so funny. So good. I'm also really worried about Endeavor hitting his max temperature and going.
00:45:03
Speaker
Yeah endeavors going all out and we talked about this last week that like I think he's the one I might be the most worried for. And it was another number one hero. But there's also.
00:45:16
Speaker
There's several ways this plays out in my head. Either Shoto is going to have to come like avenge and save him, or Shigaraki's going to attack Shoto when Shoto defends Deku, and Endeavor's just gonna pop off. Like... I think Todoroki's actually gonna cool down Endeavor. I'll figure out how to put the quirks together! Yeah, so he's gonna be fighting and like, he's gonna be cooling Endeavor while he does his thing.
00:45:45
Speaker
Oh, it's got it. At this point, I just feel like it has to be a Dobby Endeavor showdown, then like Joe Giganto Machia gets through. And maybe in one movie. Yes, but
00:45:59
Speaker
Feels like it could be something more that there's so much going and I just I don't know what to think and I'm sorry MCU but I haven't cared this much about like a superhero thing in a while Like this has me so hyped up This feels like I felt back during Infinity War like I just don't know what to expect around the corner It's gonna be fun. Oh, yes, it is
Speculations on Future Episodes
00:46:28
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fun. How many episodes do we have left? I believe we're getting 12? So... Five? Five episodes left? Oh no.
00:46:43
Speaker
I, I hesitate to I was about to say I hesitate to believe this is all wrapping up in the first 12 episodes. I think we're going to get 12 good episodes and then 12 more good episodes. Like we're not going to get a. You know, we need to put on a play at the school show arc this season. Why God, why? Oh, I found the name on the next episode.
00:47:11
Speaker
Well, if you want the answer to that, catch us next week on the Animation Deliberation podcast. Wait, the season will run for two consecutive cores. It will air for 25 episodes. Well, it's usually 25, but are they not taking their break this year? Oh yeah, they have like a little break, but 25 episodes for the season. Don't do me like that! But like if you look at the past few seasons, it's been 12 episodes of like
00:47:38
Speaker
raw heroes and then like I joke 12 episodes of well we need to please Aery at the school festival how do we do it like it wasn't it was really two distinct arcs whereas who knows how it's gonna play this something happened after that the the school festival arc yeah it was like 10 episodes of the school festival arc and then you had the two episodes of
00:48:06
Speaker
Like the Kurogiri, Aizawa story? If I'm not mistaken? There's no way that was it. There was one season where that was like the entirety of the 12 episodes. No... Was it season 4? Dude, that was when, um... We met Hawks and found out the new hero lineup and him fighting the Nomus. That was the second half of it with the...
00:48:36
Speaker
You find out, like, all about the Todoroki family. Oh, I guess that was only six episodes. It just felt like it was so long. Dude, I was like, no, there was something else. There had to be something else. It did not end on the damn festival. Well, I knew it didn't end there, but I'm just saying, like, you did not. That's as close as this show gets to filler. This show does not very often do filler. Don't do me like that. I do what I gotta do.
00:49:07
Speaker
Annoy people? Heavily. Heavily. Call great anime lame animation. Y'all don't need to listen as bash on each other. It's what brothers do. Alright, anything animated related you want to talk about? That's such a broad question.
00:49:29
Speaker
No. I can't believe we're already into November. October just ran by with anime. But there's still so much going on out there. And I'm consuming other stuff we're not talking about on the show. So we say it every week, but please... Finally started the first episode of Blue Lock.
00:49:49
Speaker
Seems like that's going to be interesting. Hopefully I get a chance to actually properly dig into that. Black Clover, I'm almost done with, we're like 140 of the 160 episodes that currently exist. So almost there, maybe Fire Force next, we have no idea what's actually coming because time is an illusion.
00:50:18
Speaker
And I started watching the X-Men animated series, not anime related, but just like have been getting in the Marvel old school mood and just wanted to go back and do the X-Men animated series, which is just it's fun. It's it's a great story. The X-Men are just some of the best stories when it comes to Marvel, in my opinion. So I'm here for it. What about you? Anything else outside the show that you've been doing besides football?
00:50:48
Speaker
Uh, Andor stole Andor has his moments, but good lord is it slow. I want to watch Blue Lock, but screw you, country roll. Ha ha! I'm rewatching Jack Ryan because season three is coming out. Season one of that show was incredible. Is that the Amazon Prime one with Krasinski? Yeah, the first season was really good.
00:51:15
Speaker
There's so many shows in this world that I'm like, just watch the first season. That's, that's all you need to know. I mean, she was good, but that one, it was just like, it's so many perspectives. Like you have the everyday American, you have the converted Muslim, you have the Middle Eastern Muslim, you have like why this person went bad. And then the people who were trying to make most other immigrant lives, like,
00:51:37
Speaker
Just the perspectives, everything was so, so fascinating. And like, knowing people from each facet of those lifestyles too was kind of like, you know, a bad guy is a bad guy, but this is a really intriguing story. Yeah, I don't think I'm really watching anything else. Just been playing a lot of Destiny. And what free time I actually get. It's more of like, I play Destiny instead of going to sleep on time.
00:52:06
Speaker
That's how it is with me and Marvel Snap. I got Monica into Marvel Snap and we just play so much. It's such a fun game. Oh, we got Pokemon games coming out today. Today? Uh, Friday. Tomorrow, yeah. Tomorrow, yes. Tomorrow, Pokemon, Scarlet and Violet come out. My copy of Scarlet will be here tomorrow, so you'll probably possibly- Why'd you get Scarlet? Huh? Why'd you get Scarlet? Why'd you get Violet? No, I got Scarlet.
00:52:35
Speaker
Oh, I'm going to scarlet. Well, I got scarlet when they teased the possible, uh, Don fan evolution, which was a thousand times better in the scarlet version than the violet version. Interesting. The violet version looks, it looks bad. It just looks, I'm not one to hate on Pokemon designs. I just don't think it looks anything interesting.
00:53:05
Speaker
If you are ordering this game or buying this game or whatever, make sure you update it right away because Game Freak has come out and said that there's just so many bugs in just the regular version. So whatever update is out, make sure you do it right away. Apparently it's still very buggy too. But that's what you get for trying to put an open world game on a handheld console.
00:53:29
Speaker
Yeah, that is what it is. We'll see how it actually comes out. We'll probably try and give an honest review, though, because I love Pokémon. I've played almost every single game. I played Sword and Shield all the time. Legends Arceus was amazing. So I'm finished that on the plane tomorrow. You should finish it on the plane because the end of the story is kind of bonkers.
00:53:55
Speaker
Yeah, I'd probably do that because I only have like that last snow section and whatever follows left.
00:54:00
Speaker
Yeah, and we're talking about planes. We're talking about, you know, what's going on next week with Pokemon and everything else. Just to give you a peek behind the curtain listeners. We have no idea what our schedule is next week. It is Thanksgiving. We're all traveling. We're all doing different things. We're going to try and line up our schedules at some point earlier in the week and see if we can get something out for My Hero Academia. Keep an eye on Twitter and the rest of our social medias.
00:54:26
Speaker
For any updates, I will try and put something up there for not going to record, just so you know not to be waiting by your feed the entire time. Obviously, that means we'll just cover both of the episodes in the following week if we don't get to it next week. But we wanted to be frank with you and just say, life is crazy sometimes. We're going to try our best, but no promises. And also, take that time to also spend it with your family as well on Thanksgiving and around the holiday, just like we are doing.
00:54:53
Speaker
You know what we should do if we can't record next week? Is just record our immediate reactions as a just-in-case, and play that before we talk about next week's episode. Hmm, interesting option. I don't hate it. Makes me wonder if I should just like- Ha! Plan Bs! Plan Bs. Start recording the Anna Minutes off air like right as we watch the episodes. That could be interesting. We don't get to play off each other though.
00:55:24
Speaker
Yeah. So it could get very redundant. Yeah. All right. Well, if you have any thoughts on that, you know where to find us. Send us all the feedback at all the places and be safe with all of your travels in this holiday period. B plus ultra and stay whelmed. And until Gigantamakia runs again, muscle muscle.
00:55:52
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