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Episode 9 - Chit chat
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This week's episode is a little different, but we hope you like it anyway! No real topic so we went back to our roots and bounced between a couple different ones. Enjoy!
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Introduction and Episode Overview
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Speaker
Well, well, welcome back, shallow friends. And thanks for joining us for another episode of your favorite podcast and mine, The Shallow End.
00:00:07
Speaker
So, although we started off with a topic in good intentions this week, somewhere along the line we decided to devolve into complete and utter chaos, otherwise known as normalcy, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, I think that you guys are in for a treat because what you're about to listen to is probably the closest that we have so far to Jessica and Kevin just in the wild, whether they're at home or posted up at their favorite watering hole, just chatting the shit.
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Speaker
So with that said, sit back, relax, pour yourself a glass of wine, and enjoy episode number nine of The Shallow End, Chit Chat edition.
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Rebecca's Surgery and Recovery Journey
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can see bumps on my audacity screen. Tracks are being laid as you speak. Lots of shits being laid. Oh, yeah. All right, so hi, Rebecca. Hi, Dad. How you doing? How's your day? Well, I didn't even get the whipped cream on top of my shit sandwich. How about you?
00:01:35
Speaker
Okay, all right, all right, your life is fine. My life, yeah, I was just gonna try to make a joke about it and then I considered the situation that I'm in and realized that I had no room to complain. So I shut up. Hey, are you enjoying being with your kittens again?
00:01:52
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Oh my gosh, so much. Basil is literally following me everywhere around the entire house. Of course. Yeah, he won't leave me alone. I did a lot of school stuff today and he just insists on sitting on my lap the whole time. It's very sweet. I have to admit to you that I was feeling for them on your behalf last week.
00:02:23
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Yeah. I longed for them. Yeah. It was rough for me, emotionally. I'm sure, yeah. Thinking about them. That's part of what I was thinking about, like, oh my gosh, this must be... Yeah. You're struggling with, I don't want to go back yet, because I shouldn't. I should. But also, I really need to be near these kids.
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah. So for context, I had a major surgery last Monday. So just a day, eight days ago, eight days, eight days ago. I was seeing with my parents for recovery for about a week.
00:03:08
Speaker
Actually, exactly a week. And I came back to my apartment yesterday. I came back yesterday. But I couldn't bring my two kittens with me because they have cats. Three of them. We have cats.
00:03:24
Speaker
Yeah, you have cats. Not my cats have cats. That would be so cute. That would be so cool. I was just clarifying. That's all. My parents have cats. Actually, the girls, my boys get along with, but there's one boy cat that they have. Tripod. The three-legged cat who's also a lovely cat. He is. He's awesome when my cats aren't there.
00:03:51
Speaker
But then he's, well, he is a dick to one of the girl cats. That's true. Yeah, but I left my kitties here and I had my younger sister come check on them once every like day or so. But this has been the longest stretch of like,
00:04:13
Speaker
Like, they didn't see me for a whole week. And they've never gone that long without seeing me. And I've never gone that long without seeing them. And it was really hard. But I'm glad to be back. And they're so sweet and wonderful and perfect. And I'm looking so nice. Why can't everyone be like that? Well, so I think we hinted at this. So we should probably put a ball around.
00:04:42
Speaker
Like last episode was social contracts and like there was the sick contract at the end. And so maybe there was a little foreshadowing there. Yeah. I don't actually remember what we said, like how much we talked about. Um, but the, the surgery that I got was like.
00:05:04
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a hopeful treatment for something for one of the things I've struggled with as a chronic pain problem for a long time. So, so far, I mean, we can't really see whether it worked or not yet. But I'm, I'm very, very hopeful. Um, and honestly, the week
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of staying at my parents' house in recovery was like I couldn't stop being like, hmm, interesting. Sick contract is being shown right now, right in front of my eyes. Look at all these things these people are doing for me.
00:05:44
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look at you back in your apartment a week later after major surgery. So like, I mean, obviously we never doubted that. Like part of it is you have that sense of responsibility and like you're not taking advantage of anyone. You're just saying, okay, this is how I feel. And
Optimism and Reflections on Surgery Outcome
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then now there was this big procedure and we all hope that it results in
00:06:15
Speaker
You know a better lifestyle for you. I think no matter what my life My day-to-day life will be improved. I think there's no question there, right? It's just a matter of to what degree yeah, and how much of the underlying condition? Yeah is addressed now, too
00:06:35
Speaker
Yeah, right. But I'm like, like I said before, I'm very hopeful about it. I really think that this is like, like I've been working at it for a while for years and it's finally happened and I'm really hopeful about it. So yeah, I feel good about it.
00:06:51
Speaker
So we should also maybe just like touch on the fact that we did sit down before you went back and we talked about... Oh my gosh. A plan, right? We had a plan. My father and I, of the Brew family, I would say that the eight of us, you and I are the ones that go a little bit cuckoo crazy bonkers if there's no plan. I need to know what's happening. And for the past eight episodes,
00:07:19
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We've kind of just been like... We don't want it. Really freewheeling it, guys. And I don't know about you, but it was fun for a time. And then I started being like...
00:07:33
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Come on. We need to schedule this shit. So I'm glad we sat down. We planned it out. So we did that, but we did that. And we said today we had a topic. We didn't tell anybody about the topic, but we had a topic. We hadn't decided it. And then we started texting today and we were like,
00:08:00
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We were both just not feeling, I don't know, spunky. Yeah, the energy for it. The energy, the silly energy. And I think the topic that we had picked out, which I'm not going to say. No, I think it's going to work. I think it's going to be a good episode, but I think that I wouldn't have been able to
00:08:27
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word all of my thoughts on the topic. You wouldn't be able to deliver. Yeah. Yeah. So that leaves us with what are we doing right now? Well, okay. I'm going to repeat what you said when we first got on this call, which was
00:08:47
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Neither of us are really feeling like, like our days kind of smack the shit out of us and neither of us really want to sit down and formally discuss a topic. But the point of the podcast or the idea of the podcast was born out of us having a lot of shitty days. And at the ends of those shitty days,
00:09:13
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deciding to sneak off and talk together and change our attitudes and energy from feeling like shit to enjoying each other's company and feeling better about the world by the end of it.
Origins and Evolution of the Podcast
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So we decided, fuck the topic, we're gonna sit down, we're gonna chat like we would, and we're gonna turn our attitudes around and maybe we'll get an episode out.
00:09:41
Speaker
Or maybe we'll just flush the whole damn thing. Or maybe it'll just be a fun little thing to keep in my computer forever that we'll never see the light of day. Yeah. So what are you drinking? Oh, I'm drinking. I think I've had him on here before. Bardog. Oh, Bardog? I don't know. It's Bardog kebs off.
00:10:05
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$10 or $11. And it's like a perfectly serviceable Cabernet Sauvignon, so. What are you drinking? Remnants of the, that Cote de Ronde Rosé. Whatever. I guess we're, honestly, we're almost 10 minutes in. We should probably go ahead and say, hey guys,
00:10:29
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Welcome to episode 0.0. I don't even know what episode this is, technically. No, if this sees the light of day, you're listening to episode nine. Nine, yeah. Yeah. Episode eight went out today. Yeah. Went live today. Right. I'm gonna check the listens, but. It's up 40% over the last time you looked. No, 50% over the last time you looked.
00:10:58
Speaker
Oh my gosh, guys. I'll let people do their own math there. Guys, we're going viral. But so we put together the schedule of what we want to talk about. We started booking guests. That's important. That people should know that. That's true.
00:11:19
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We are also, this is part of the reason, I think this is helping to build some discipline too, even though we feel eh, about a formal topic. We wanted to build the discipline of saying, hey, we're gonna have this talk every Tuesday. And then we're going to publish every Monday.
00:11:47
Speaker
That's the idea. That's the idea of the rhythm of what's going on. Tonight almost didn't happen, so first opportunity, we both almost went, eh.
Podcast Scheduling and Planning
00:11:59
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And we didn't publish Monday. We published today. Yeah, but that was technical issues. That's true, but I also did just give up. I was like, fuck this. I'm not fighting with this today. It's one of the brew family rules sometimes. Sometimes give up. Give up. Honestly, guys,
00:12:18
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I'm, I've finally given up on my idea that I'm going to be a professional golfer. Hey, don't, don't, that's not where you're supposed to laugh. You know what dad, acceptance, acceptance is the first step and for that I'm proud of you. I birdied to two of the last five holes yesterday. Birdie, it's one under par. Yeah. Okay. So it's good. Good job.
00:12:49
Speaker
Two of the, wait, I wasn't listening to the rest of what you said. Two of my last five holes. Wow, good job. What'd you do for the other three?
00:12:59
Speaker
We won't talk about it. That's not how we do this. We celebrate the little victories here. That's right. That's right. So anyway, the hope is that we'll get on a normal schedule. A posting schedule at the very least. A posting schedule, yeah. Yeah. Because I'm sure it'll be easier for people if they just know every Monday they are blessed.
00:13:28
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Something like that. You're welcome. Oh my gosh. For all of our shallow friends out there, I'm sure you all know Kathleen has been getting shout outs a lot. You met her finally. And I met her. Not finally. I've met her before. Oh, you have? I have at a bar with you. Oh, that sounds about right. I don't know if I want to shout out the bar.
00:13:57
Speaker
Is it the one we go to a lot? It's not. Oh. It's one of the secret, it's a secret bar and a restaurant. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I was talking about. Yeah, so we can shout that out. That's fine. I like that. Oh, okay. Because I actually, it might, go ahead, finish your story because then I'll
00:14:18
Speaker
Oh, that was pretty much the end of my story. It was just that I re-met Kathleen. I re-met Kathleen and it was a wonderful moment because I was just like wandering. And then she said, I'm the fan. And I was like, and you said, this is Kathleen. And I was like, oh my gosh, Kathleen.
00:14:38
Speaker
And we hugged, and I promised her that she was getting more shout outs in our most recent episode. We shouted out a lot. We did. And she gushed a little bit. So it was just a wonderful meeting of fan kind of experience for me, my first one. I'm not used to it. I mean, all of our other fans are family, to be honest. Yeah, and I'm used to them being fans of me. Yeah, they're pretty supportive.
00:15:08
Speaker
They actually are. They love us. They have to love us. They can't get rid of us. So they have to just make peace with what they've got. So this is going to be relevant to a tiny little microcosm of people, even of people who listen. But that place that you first met her is Moe's.
00:15:35
Speaker
the speakeasy at the bottom of Manjiamo's, which if anybody's familiar with Grand Rapids, Michigan. Shout out. Six wants to say. Manjiamo's is a big old mansion. Yeah, it's like a big old house. A restaurant and then one of the family members of the owner opened up her
00:16:04
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her dream speakeasy kind of in the basement, and it's a super creepy old house, but she's freshened up the speakeasy experience, and it's really fun, it's a really cool place. But I was gonna close that loop by telling you that I was over at the club today, and guess who was wandering around? Was it Moe?
00:16:34
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Mo's dad. Mo's dad. The owner of... The owner of Mongello's. And we had a great conversation. He's a really sweet guy that seems to care a lot. Yeah. I hope that place is doing okay.
00:16:51
Speaker
Seems like they are. Yeah. I think that they're, the outdoor season is about to start or is starting for them. And it's just like another level up of chaos and business for them. It makes it tough, but, but that's good. At least it's, at least it's busy. It's busy. Yeah. I brought, I brought somebody.
00:17:14
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to Moe's recently, who had never been there before. And when we got our drinks, we sat down and they go, you've ruined me. And I was like,
00:17:28
Speaker
I've ruined you? And they're like, yeah, because now I just want to go here all the time. I want to take everybody here. This is so cool. Yeah, it's a pretty cool place. It's such a good vibe. Yeah. It's like a cool little, like they play, like they play vinyl. There's candles everywhere. It's perfectly dark, but not too dark. Right. We, we, um, the person I was there with, we found a magic eight ball and
00:17:56
Speaker
just like on a table, and we just started asking it questions, and it was so fun. They also had Uno for those who were interested. And they have a specific cocktail that they serve a candy cigarette with. Oh my gosh, it's so fun, guys. Come on, what are we doing? We were just having too much fun. It's very cute. We're having too much fun. Who let us have this much fun? No, it's a great spot. It is, yeah.
00:18:25
Speaker
Um, I want to tell you about something. Okay.
Analysis of Bridgerton Season 3
00:18:30
Speaker
That's happening in. Do I need to take notes? No, but, but it's, I know that. Is it about a time traveling Disney character again? No, no, no, but I do know that you have controversial opinions about this. Oh. Franchise. Tea it up. It's about, it's about season three of Bridgerton. Part one of season three of Bridgerton.
00:18:55
Speaker
I'd like to give you, I'd like to paint you a picture and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, but you say what you think right now about me bringing this up. I'm not saying anything about you, but isn't the chubby little gossip the starno? Stop, that's so mean. Yes. What's mean about it? Oh, I called her a gossip?
00:19:21
Speaker
Yeah, I guess that's not very nice. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. She is Lady Whistledown, for those who are not in the know. She's the author of the gossip column. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I, yeah. But nobody knows that she's the author, except for one person. I figured it out after season one, did it ever, did everybody? Well, they revealed it to us at the end.
00:19:43
Speaker
Oh, not me. At the end, I'm saying I've only watched one season. Yeah, you watched the worst season. Season one is not good. Nobody likes that season. Nobody goes back and rewatches that season. I love season two because it's about the oldest brother of the Bridgerton siblings and he's very
00:20:10
Speaker
oldest child energy. Okay. And I relate to him. Even though you're not the oldest child. Well, but kind of I am though. But then his love interest is another oldest child. And she's like, okay. So I love them together. Read me in to season two here. Is season two the one where they, is it, is this the one in India?
00:20:38
Speaker
It's not in India, but the love interest is they come from India. Oh, very saucy. Well, right. Which is something, to my knowledge, I haven't read the books, but to my knowledge, this is something that the show came up with.
00:20:57
Speaker
because I'm pretty sure I remember when they announced casting for season two and like the main love interest in her younger sister were very clearly like Indian women. Everybody was just losing their minds because in the book, her character is blonde and blue eyed. And they were like, she's not book accurate. It's like, well- It's all about the camera. Well, wait, in season one,
00:21:24
Speaker
Does the book actually have a biracial romance? Black people in it? No. No, it doesn't. So the TV series has been doing that to try to make it a little more modern day accessible? Right. So this is something that they've been doing. But okay, I need to talk my shit about season three.
00:21:49
Speaker
I thought we were going to talk about the season one rape, but go ahead. Oh my God. Okay. We're in agreement about this. I don't like season one. I don't like it. It's problematic on a lot of levels. It's really bad. And it's like, I don't like her and I don't like him, so why would I care about their relationship? Bingo. I don't care. I don't care.
00:22:13
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Anyway. Which is why I didn't watch season two. Well, I was always, I remember in season one the whole time, I was like, damn, that oldest brother is really cute and seems to be the most reasonable one of the group. Didn't he disappear during season one? Didn't he like go away at some point?
00:22:30
Speaker
Hey, that's Colin, who's the love interest of season three. In season three, okay. See, I don't even remember. Well, there are, okay, so Bridgerton is like, it's about- By the way, welcome to our Bridgerton episode. Welcome to our Bridgerton podcast. This is a Bridgerton podcast, no. So each season is like a different Bridgerton siblings love story. Okay.
00:22:56
Speaker
So season one was Daphne's and she's the fourth born. Season two was Antony's and he's the first born. And season three was Collins and he's the third born. Because they're alphabetical. I know, there you go. It's pretty ridiculous, but it's fun. Okay. It is fun, but I want to complain about season three.
00:23:26
Speaker
Here's the problem with season three. Season three follows Colin and the gossip, the little gossip girl. Their love story. You shouldn't call her little, that's very, very demeaning. She was little, she's very short.
00:23:43
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Yeah. Also, her actress is like almost 40 and she looks 20. Oh, really? Yes. It's crazy. I remember in season one, I mean, I'm assuming it's roughly one season per year. She looked 15. Yeah, she looks very young, but she's almost 40. Wow. You go girl, whatever you're doing, it's working. Okay, so these two, they've been
00:24:13
Speaker
Like the build up has lasted for now three seasons because they knew each other in season one, knew each other in season two. And the whole point is she's in love with him and he has no idea. And he is like just Caesar as a friend. And at the end of season two, she overhears him talking to his friends and saying like, Oh, I would never court her like
00:24:38
Speaker
Oh my God, can you imagine? Ew. She overhears this and is like, wow, fuck that guy. And so season three begins with Colin being like, Penelope's mad at me and I don't know why. And Penelope's like, I'm going to be hot this year, which awesome. But they lead up to it like.
00:25:05
Speaker
acting like Penelope doesn't really give a shit about him anymore. And he's desperately in love with her and is gonna like grovel and like make up for being kind of a dick to her. Wait, what? That sounds the opposite of what you were describing. Well, it flips. Season three, it flips. Oh, okay. Where she's like, fuck that guy. He was horrible to me. And then suddenly he's like, oh my gosh, I gave up what I- And then she becomes hot and he's like, oh my God, she's hot.
00:25:32
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and nice to me. I don't know. He has this whole scene where he like is confessing to her, his feelings, and everything that he says is not something about her, it's something that she does for him.
00:25:46
Speaker
It's like, you always listen to me and you care about what I say. And you've always been there for me. And it's like, okay, but also she's like super smart and is running her own business. And it's like funny and interesting, but he didn't list any of those things. So I'm not a Colin fan anyway. Narcissist says what?
00:26:08
Speaker
Right. So I think that you've got to be really careful during our Bridgerton episode here about not giving away future episodes. Because, you know, topics can crisscross applesauce. What would our future episodes be? Well, you know, you're hitting on a couple of topics that could be future episodes. One of them is
00:26:34
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our proposed topic for tonight. And another one would be misogyny. True, true. Well, I feel like if people have listened up to this point, they would be able to predict a little bit of what I would say about misogyny.
00:26:58
Speaker
Yeah, you'd say, I'm all for it. It's my favorite thing. It helps keep women on edge and really striving for excellence. Men are our masters, and we must listen to them and do as they say. Oh. No, it's the whole iron sharpens iron, you know? You need... No, boy. That's not at all what I mean. It's a very brew family opinion.
00:27:28
Speaker
Yeah, ignorant and just for the guffaws. Yeah. But I, okay, so they split this season into two parts, which is the first time they've done that. And also the season is already only eight episodes total. Yeah, but they're like hour plus long episodes. They're like about an hour each. That's a lot of content. You'd think, right?
00:27:56
Speaker
You'd think it is, but this season is supposed to be all about Colin and Penelope and their relationship and like watching it like blossom. But we barely got any screen time from them. Like it was mostly it was it was a little bit of the couple from last season, which I was fine with, but then they disappeared.
00:28:16
Speaker
It was a younger Bridgerton sibling, Francesca, whose turn, this is not her season. I was gonna say, it's not her season yet. She's cute, that's F, that's not yet. Like she's cute. A, B, C, D, E, she's season six. At least season six.
00:28:39
Speaker
So they they talked like they spent a lot of time on Francesca and it was fine. I don't know. She's cute. She but like meh. And then a ton of time on just a random family that were like background characters basically for season one and season two that suddenly we care a lot about their story and what's going on with them. And is it going anywhere?
00:29:06
Speaker
I mean, the whole drama for them is they were a regular family and then they were somehow... Oh, they inherited a lordship.
00:29:18
Speaker
And so now they're part of the part of society and they're like going to balls and like going on the hunt, but they still own a business and that's a problem. And it's like, I don't care. I don't care about, I don't care about these people. Why are we spending so much time with these people?
00:29:38
Speaker
And then also there's this weird side plot with a woman who was the villain of the previous two seasons. Suddenly we're supposed to care about her and like what's going on with her at home. Like her dad's a little mean to her and like cut her dress buying budget in half. And now it's like, oh no. Like Cressida has an abusive family. It's like, no, she doesn't. She doesn't. She's rich. Everybody calm down.
00:30:06
Speaker
I don't care. It's abusive when I can't get my dresses, Daddy. But the end of part one is this like big make-out scene between the love interests, Colin and Penelope. Big make-out scene and then Colin proposes to her. They've spent like barely any time together. Like out of nowhere? Basically, that's how it feels. That's how it feels. Yeah, that's not very satisfying.
00:30:33
Speaker
Right, and then it ends. And then we wait a month for part two, and I'm like, this was disappointing and bad. And all of them...
00:30:43
Speaker
All of them have like TikTok makeup on and like, there's this thing that people say where it's like, this face has seen an iPhone. This is a face that has seen an iPhone and I can't accept that it's in a period drama. Like you are a modern face. So who's doing this show? It's Shonda Rhimes. I think it's Shonda Rhimes. But what studio?
00:31:14
Speaker
Shondaland. She owns... Oh, it's her own studio. Yeah, she also does Grey's Anatomy. Well, did. That's not a real thing anymore, is it? I think it's still going, dude. Is it really? I think so. Since 2005. I would say Grey's Anatomy is fully Grey. Dead, rotten, and done. Well, I think they're... They're main characters. Put the entire anatomy under the earth. Well, Grey's Anatomy... Have a nice service.
00:31:43
Speaker
It's named after Meredith Grey, right? I mean, it's named after Grey's Anatomy, the book, the Anatomy book. But it's spelled for her last name because it's about her. She's like the main character. And I think the actress left last season. So they're still going. That's why I thought it was good. I don't think she's part of the show anymore.
00:32:05
Speaker
I don't know how they're still going, but they seem to be, but this is like a big, big studio. Like Shonda Rhimes is a big deal. Well, I know. I mean, like, obviously you put something like Bridgerton together, you you're legit, you're doing big stuff, but if you get to a point where you're trying too hard. It felt like they were just trying to jam too much into like four hours and it just kind of
00:32:35
Speaker
diluted everything to where it was like a bunch of really shallow storylines that I just did not care about. We should like that. We're the shallow end. Oh, no. You're right. But that is sad because it's like they're stealing joy from you because just do your thing.
00:32:59
Speaker
Like, I know you can do this well. Right, exactly. You know? Like, you proved it. Like, why'd you screw it up? Why'd you change it? Yeah, I also, they, hang on, I'm struggling to spell season. Oh, okay. They also, okay, so season two was in 2022, March of 2022. So they took two years to give us this.
00:33:25
Speaker
Can we just say COVID? No, not anymore. We can't say that. Not anymore. Although, writers strike. Oh, writers strike, yep. They were filming during writers strike. Hollywood COVID, yeah. Hollywood COVID. So I guess that's an excuse for why the writing is terrible, but... Well, I mean, even the chosen had to pause for the writers to... Really?
00:33:52
Speaker
Okay, talk about the chosen, explain the chosen. Well, they got permission to finish the season they were on, but then I think they were delayed a little bit to start the next one. What season are they on right now? How many are out? I think we're in the middle of the fourth season. And I think that they're saying it's six or seven seasons total. Wow, okay. So for people who don't know, I mean,
00:34:21
Speaker
I mean, I'm talking to a room of 20 people, but, um, so yeah, the chosen was like the crowdfunded, um, initially crowdfunded story of Jesus, um, produced written by the son.
00:34:44
Speaker
of the guy who wrote the left behind series, which if you grew up Christian, I did not know that in the eighties or nineties, you would know the left behind series is pretty wack. It's like sci-fi Christianity. Um, but, uh, the series is like an attempt to kind of just put
00:35:09
Speaker
the Christian version of Jesus stories, like authentically out there in a very human way. And it's, I think it's brilliantly done. I think that storytelling is really well done. I think that the pacing is great. It's not, they're clearly not trying to rush anything because they've taken six or seven seasons or whatever it is. Which is the way they should do it.
00:35:39
Speaker
Right. And it's, I think it's great actors. And even as like, I'm, I'm not even really like, go back and listen to our religion episode if you care to know more about my views. But I wouldn't say I identify with the Christian or Catholic faiths or like any faith that really is like Jesus-y.
00:36:07
Speaker
But I watched the first two seasons, I think with you guys and like sobbed at these episodes. Like these are really well done. Beautiful, really well done. Not preachy, which is always my problem with these kinds of movies or shows where it's like,
00:36:30
Speaker
It doesn't seem like Jesus is talking. It seems like the guy who's producing this show is talking. Right, right. You know? Yeah, no question. But that's not how this feels at all. Yeah, that's what I like about it, too, is like this feels... I mean, it really just feels like good quality storytelling on film and it elicits human emotion. And that's what they want.
00:37:00
Speaker
Their goal is to help you to understand, hey, this is who we think Jesus is. Please get to know him, really. But to be able to present that and have someone who isn't a believer still appreciate it and go, hmm, that's kind of cool. It's kind of, again, like a period drama.
00:37:25
Speaker
With well-constructed characters that you follow through the storyline, it's believable in a sense. If you're not a believer,
00:37:43
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you're not gonna believe in some of the stuff that goes on, but it's not like super over the top stupid. You know, moments where it's, if you watch a Star Wars movie, you're gonna be like, ah.
00:37:56
Speaker
I know there aren't really lightsabers and the force isn't a real thing, but I get into the moment and I like it. And I, so I think that the fact that they've produced something that is accessible on all those levels where someone just with a critical non-believing eye can appreciate it and enjoy it, that's a credit to them.
00:38:22
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Yeah.
Discussion on 'The Chosen' and Biblical Stories
00:38:23
Speaker
It is also more fun to watch when you have like the background knowledge of having a Catholic upbringing where I like know these stories already. I know like what the significance of each of these things is. So, so seeing them like, it's just, it's so different from
00:38:49
Speaker
sitting in mass and listening to these stories be read out in like weird jilted language versus seeing like a real person and watching it happen and like really getting the significance of it rather than having to have it explained to me because it's not translated as well. One of the things that they did at the very beginning when they were just trying to build it all up is that they had a
00:39:18
Speaker
a priest, a minister, and a rabbi. And they had like a roundtable talk after each episode. And I don't even know whether they still do that. It might just be so overwhelming to try to coordinate that at this point. But it was really fascinating because the guy behind it, Dallas Jenkins,
00:39:44
Speaker
he was there and they would go through different scenes and then each of these faith traditions would weigh in on what he got right, what he got wrong, what they would have done differently or what they think that, it was like none of them were mean. They were all like, they were all clearly happy that he was doing what he was doing. But it was interesting to hear different perspectives then. So you get that really,
00:40:15
Speaker
you get that like sort of animated version of the story that's on just a page. And then you get these people who have studied it for their entire lives, giving their feedback and it's like, oh,
00:40:30
Speaker
So this guy had one vision of it based on all the things that he's lived and learned, and then all these people have studied their whole lives to know these stories, and they have their own little feedback and everything. It's like, huh, interesting. It's where I'm like, maybe I'm just gonna go to the heart of it and be like, if I watch that scene,
00:40:56
Speaker
and it makes me weep, it's telling me something. There's something real there. But even like the way that I look at it, it's like even if it's not telling me like God is real and Jesus is the Son of God, like even if that is not what I'm, like the message I'm getting from it, is I'm still getting like, look at how just a kind man being kind
00:41:27
Speaker
to everyone in the way that he says he will be, look at how that affects the people around him and look at, just look at the effect that that can have on people. And even if it's not a religious reasoning behind it, I can still take that message and try to live it out in my life. Yeah, I mean, it's really, yeah, like,
00:41:56
Speaker
If you show me a bunch of morality plays where the golden rule is handed to me over and over and over again, it's going to be impactful for me. I'm going to be like, oh, I should be, I should really try hard to not be a dick. Right.
00:42:15
Speaker
In the end, being a dick is kind of hard. It takes a lot of effort to remember all the ways you're supposed to continue to be awful. That has never been my experience. You're just naturally gifted. I'm really good at it.
00:42:37
Speaker
It's a lot of energy. I'm glad you're not giving lessons in it at least. Yeah, at least. I'm trying really hard also.
00:42:48
Speaker
A lot of the time. I think people can tell. I think my family especially can tell when I stop trying. And then they're all like, you're being really mean. Can you pull it together? They feel like we have that going on in our family a lot. Every once in a while, everyone goes through it. It's like, what is your issue? I don't know. What is going on with you? Why are you being such a dick? That's me the last two days.
00:43:13
Speaker
Yeah. I left this morning and I said to your mom, I'm going to try to come back with a better attitude. And she was like, that'd be good. Like just stone cold. That'd be good. That'd be good. I can imagine her doing that. At least you recognize that you were like, I mean, I'm, I'm not doing well.
00:43:36
Speaker
and this needs to turn around. You should see my Google search history since my operation. Oh, gosh. Do I want to? Because I knew that... Whatever. We'll just say it. I had a hysterectomy. That was my operation. And there's a lot of
00:43:58
Speaker
Um, like emotional turbulence reported with people getting hysterectomies, but I thought that I would be, mine would be, my experience would be a little bit different because I.
00:44:11
Speaker
have known that I didn't want kids, so it wasn't like a sacrifice to treat. It was like an added benefit to the treatment. But all of these things that I saw were like, you'll be really sad and you'll feel like you lost something and you'll be grieving. And it will last probably about a month and a half, but it will go away.
00:44:35
Speaker
and I haven't experienced sadness but I have experienced rage like I'm so mad like all the time at everyone so I did want to come back here but also I was like I can't spend another day
00:45:00
Speaker
Living with my family because relationships are going to be damaged permanently.
00:45:12
Speaker
Living here is different. You like, actually we were talking about this yesterday. You like space, you like your alone time. I like space and alone time. I think mom's gotten to the point where she likes space and alone time. Colby, he lives here. I see him every once in a while.
00:45:39
Speaker
So we do have that in our family. Like we don't want to just be together all the time. True. And you went through a major situation where you kind of like couldn't, it wasn't that you couldn't fend for yourself, but you needed to be here, which in your brain probably translates as
00:46:06
Speaker
helplessness, trapped. Like, I can picture exactly how your mental state was going. And I was actually shocked you waited as long as you did to go back. And I was happy for it, happy for it. Of course, you know I love it when you're here, so it's not bad. The reason, honestly, here's why I waited so long.
00:46:36
Speaker
I was told that I wasn't allowed to pick up more than 10 pounds because even if you feel like you can, you could be ripping internal stitches. Yeah, right. And I live at the top floor of my apartment and I knew that the bag that I had brought was more than 10 pounds. And I was like, hmm, I could, if I could get into my apartment, I'd be fine. Yeah.
00:47:01
Speaker
but can I carry my things up the stairs yet? And I waited until I was like really sure that I could. So that I didn't, I know, I considered other things where I was like, like I'll make Maggie drive also and then carry my bag up and make her drive back. Like that's crazy. Well, she did it a couple of times for your cats. She did it to make sure they were fed.
00:47:29
Speaker
Just saying. That makes sense to me. If she was going to do it for your cats, she would do it for you. Yeah, that's fair. Well, also, I don't know if you know this, but I have a bit of a pride issue. You? Shocker, I know. Shocker. Which I struggled with a little bit in recovery because
00:48:00
Speaker
It's, I am grateful that everybody around me wanted to help me out and make sure that everything was taken care of and I could just rest as much as possible. But like, sometimes I want to get up and get my own goddamn water.
00:48:21
Speaker
for the love of God. And I don't need somebody to guilt me about that. A lot of references to God about that, but right there. Are you sure you don't believe anything? I'm trying to censor that. For the love of God, God damn it. I'm trying to censor that a little bit, because mom does not like it. No, she doesn't. So I do have to get better at that. Well, she's got to censor some things too.
00:48:50
Speaker
She's pretty good at it, I think. I know that she thinks a lot of stuff that she doesn't say. That's very true. Two cocktails in, there's no filter. It's hilarious. I love it because the mean stuff that she says to me, I already know she thinks that about me. It's not like a shocker. It actually is just fun to have it come out.
00:49:18
Speaker
Yes, it's refreshing when people just... Let loose. Oh my gosh. I reconnected with a friend lately and he has always been somebody that has not been afraid of how I'll react to the things that he says for better or for worse. For better or for worse. Is that a mutual thing? Do you think you can... Oh yeah. It's the same thing. I heard his feelings a lot.
00:49:48
Speaker
But like the first couple of times that we hung out after we reconnected and he would just like say some like really inappropriate, like, like you're not supposed to say that to somebody that you really barely know at this point, but that were true and that I needed to hear like, it's like refreshing. Like, Oh my gosh. Thank you for just saying that instead of, so yeah.
00:50:16
Speaker
We're going to get a little too close to, not really. I will say this. I really appreciate friendships that do that for me. I do not want that from my spouse. Too close. I don't want the sharpest knife right next to my heart.
00:50:39
Speaker
I want somebody out here to be able to bruise me and keep me in shape, but I do not want. Yeah, I definitely get that. How can you ever actually be vulnerable around your partner if you're always feeling like
00:51:03
Speaker
they could be stabbing you at any moment, I get that. But also at the same time, I also struggle with like, if you're not being honest with me about this thing, for the sake of my feelings, how can I ever trust you to be really, truly honest with me? When I need to hear something. And I agree with that. I don't mean it quite like that. I mean more like I don't want
00:51:32
Speaker
a relationship with my spouse to be all about that verbal sparring where you're just really on edge and you're able to throw jabs that are really personal and
00:51:56
Speaker
Potentially hurtful. I want it to be like I totally agree with what you're saying like you do want to have that transparency and vulnerability to somebody that you're committed to But I don't believe in a Relationship is going to be really really successful because You're able to say the worst possible things to each other. Yeah, that's true
00:52:26
Speaker
It's like, you get good at what you practice. Please don't practice being mean to me.
00:52:34
Speaker
Right. I guess, I guess I didn't mean like, we're mean to each other. Although we all, we also are that. Like we are also mean to each other. Like yes, but that's a separate thing. Also he's, he is also able to, like when he's delivering these like truth bombs into my life, it's not,
00:53:03
Speaker
Like, ha ha, look at how sucky this part of your life is. It's like, hmm, is this what's going on in your brain while this is happening? And then I'm like, holy shit. Yes, and it's, or. That makes sense to me. Very honest feedback. Right, that's a friend. That's like, there's somebody who really understands you, like understands your brain.
00:53:30
Speaker
The problem with, I think, being my mother's daughter is people are scared of me. And people don't talk back to me a lot. Well, and it's rare that you meet somebody that understands what's going on in your head. Yeah, I would say almost never have I met somebody like that. Right. And by the way, those people are dangerous.
00:54:00
Speaker
Cause the two of you get together and like could be some kind of nuclear thing goes on and then the world ends. We don't want that. When the wrong superheroes get together, it's not good. I don't know. There's an umbrella Academy thing here, but I can't. Hell yeah. I'd be Vanya.
00:54:26
Speaker
No, you wouldn't. No, I wouldn't. You'd be fine, everyone. You'd be fine. That tiny little asshole, that's so mean. You would be. You would be. The only one that actually knows what's going on. He's the one, can he teleport? What's his thing? Teleport or time travel? Yeah, he translocates or whatever and can move through time too, I guess. Yeah, I would love that power.
00:54:55
Speaker
Would you though? Yes. Oh my gosh. If I could just think and move from a place to another place. That would be amazing. Yeah. You can just like, I'm out. This party sucks. Fuck this. It's like the best Irish goodbye possible. You don't even have to find a door. You could just disappear. That's perfect. The comic goodbye.
00:55:24
Speaker
Yeah, poof. And then there's like some dust on the ground where it was, and that's how they know. Oh, Rebecca left. Or a really awkward mannequin. Pieces of a mannequin. Yeah, that's my wife, god damn it. Put some respect on her name, please. I am going to refill. So please pause. Talk amongst yourselves. OK, we're at 55 minutes.
00:55:55
Speaker
I think we're just getting started. We're just ramping up. All right, let me re-film while you do that. I did not riff. I decided that we would just cut it out. Just cut it out, yeah. Yeah, there's no more? They're watching a movie upstairs, so I might as well. Oh, what are they watching? Ready? Oh. Oh, that was disappointing.
00:56:24
Speaker
I didn't hear it at all. I think your mic leveled out, leveled it out for you. It just kind of came out flat and we'll see. Um, they're watching 10 things I hate about you. Oh, okay. I've never heard of that. I don't even remember. I know I remember the movie, but I don't remember watching it. So, but that's not uncommon. So.
00:56:56
Speaker
What are you looking forward to the rest of this week? Anything fun happening? What am I looking forward to? Um, I might go into the lab depending on how I feel. I, I keep thinking like in the morning, like the first hour of the morning is pretty painful because I have to get up and take medication. And then once it kicks in, I'm like, why am I sitting around for the rest of the day? I can go do stuff and then I feel guilty for the rest of the day for not having like,
00:57:28
Speaker
stuff to do, like stuff set up to do. Oh, you're an adult. Yay. Because I'm still technically in recovery. So I don't know, maybe I'll go into the lab. I have the first assignment in my class due on Friday. Which class? What is this one? It's physical chemistry. Oh, boring. So like, I like it. I'm kidding. It's like thermodynamics and like
00:57:58
Speaker
like energy and force and stuff like that. Oh, so like burning shit up? Not actually doing that, but thinking about how that works at a molecular level. Oxidation? Also, we will be covering redox reactions. So yes, a little bit of oxidation. You know,
00:58:26
Speaker
You know my favorite new, not new, my favorite podcaster these days, right? If it's who it, I think it is, then yeah. Yeah, yeah. And yes. The rogue master. No way. If you just want pure comedy,
00:58:52
Speaker
And I only lasted 25 minutes on this thing, okay? But if you want pure comedy, go episode 2-1-5-2. Oh my God, that's so many episodes. So many episodes. That's a lot of episodes. It's Terrence Howard, who is an actor. He was an Iron Man. He was Lieutenant Rhodes or whatever in Iron Man.
00:59:20
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, seemed like totally cool guy. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah. It's like, I would like to- Brody. Yeah. He's a fucking loon. No, what's wrong with him? Oh my gosh. Why? You have to listen, and this is why you have to listen. Why? As someone who's getting a degree,
00:59:41
Speaker
in actual science. You have to listen to him incoherently explain his version of the periodic table of elements. I've since seen a little review of this episode and they said the most off the rails Joe Rogan podcast yet. All right.
01:00:12
Speaker
He, this guy believes that modern science is all based on a linear model of the universe. It doesn't actually reflect reality. And the physical reality is the periodic table of elements should be a spiral. And the forces are, he's,
01:00:44
Speaker
He's incoherent. That's insane. But listen to it just to get the laughs. Tell me what the fuck does he mean his own periodic table of elements? Does he mean same elements but rearranged differently because we don't actually know what they weigh? No, he says that there's... I think... Shit.
01:01:13
Speaker
He couldn't even explain it very well. So I'm going to give it my best shot. But apparently what he's talking about is something that someone a while back came up with. And it was the idea of taking that periodic table and instead of having it in the linear chart form where
01:01:41
Speaker
horizontally and vertically, there are similarities, right? Like that's, that's how I learned the periodic table is like, there's, there are similarities up and down and then across. His argument is many of these elements are not unique elements. They're on a spiral and one element is actually just, um,
01:02:11
Speaker
if you double it, then we call it a different element, but it's the same thing with a different energy level. We don't call it a different element. It's wrong. No, he's saying, he's saying, he's saying. Oh, we should call it a different element. No, he's saying that we call, I mean, I'm gonna say it wrong, but he's like, he's also using terminology that's not scientific at all. So he's saying things like, if you take,
01:02:40
Speaker
hydrogen and you go up an octave you get oxygen and if you go up another octave you get lithium and it's like i don't know what you're talking about none of that is science but anyway but he's basically saying like this one resonates it this hurts this one doubles it to here okay so he's got his whole like pseudoscience and
01:03:06
Speaker
My favorite thing, my favorite thing, I don't know if you can read the sarcasm, I fucking hate this shit, is when people who, people who.
Reaction to Unconventional Scientific Beliefs
01:03:20
Speaker
Really, really smart actors? No, it's like people who are like all into like energy, you know, which I agree with a lot of like the base stuff that they say, it's just where they're like,
01:03:38
Speaker
Yeah, like, the charges in your body have to equalize. It's like, do you have any idea what you're talking about? No. Do you have any, any idea what you're talking about? The charges in your body have to equalize? Yes, things in your body are charged. Did you know that something in your body having a negative charge doesn't mean that it's bad, it just means...
01:04:02
Speaker
It's a scientific assignment of value. It's not a moral good or bad. Stop using terms that you don't know the definition of to explain shit that you don't even know how to explain. Shut the fuck up! Oh my god. But also, please do touch grass.
01:04:23
Speaker
This is the rage I was talking about. I'm really mad about this right now. It's well deserved on this one. By the way, we're just getting started. I'm going to give you Chapter 2. Give me more stuff to be mad about. Chapter 2. There's another piece that he was saying where everything is misinterpreted in modern science. His whole thing is that there is a breathing in and a breathing out.
01:04:50
Speaker
there's an intake and an output and all things have to be balanced. And so when you talk about, um, I think he was talking about like magnetism, magnetism and electricity and he, yeah, just wait, just wait. And he's like, those are opposites.
01:05:16
Speaker
And he's trying to explain how one breathes in and one breathes out. And, and then there's like, he's trying to take like, like these, the quantum stuff, like the weak, the strong and the weak nuclear forces and like, and gravity and, and eventually he wound up saying something along the lines of we're about to break gravity.
01:05:44
Speaker
I mean, I know we've got an obesity problem in the country, but we're not about to break gravity We're gonna break gravity. Did he elaborate on what? I don't know. I quit. I quit listening. I quit listening Okay, you were like nothing in my life is gonna be improved her attitude by listening to this motherfucker talk I I should I don't know whether it's credit that I deserve but this guy started I
01:06:07
Speaker
It was probably a 30 minute unbroken stream of this guy talking, which is one of the things Rogan will let you do. Like, oh, I don't, like if he doesn't, if he doesn't have to like push the narrative, he'll just like, let you go. You want to go sound like a fool? Sound like a fool. I think it was pretty much at the beginning. He was like, Hey Joe, what was your first memory?
01:06:38
Speaker
And Rogan was like, I don't know, I'm not good at memories, maybe like five or six years old. And then the guy just went in and he was like, I remember before I was born.
01:06:50
Speaker
No, you don't. Yeah. No, no, no, but he, I remember I have all these memories and he's, and he's talking this whole story. And then he talking about how he goes back to that place in his dreams. And this guy gives him this flower of knowledge and he's fucking broken to seek actual help. That's crazy.
01:07:17
Speaker
He's also been married three times and beat the crap out of his wife. Okay, maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. What's this guy's name? Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard. No, I am thinking of the right guy. That's such a shame. Yeah. Bummer.
01:07:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's not Diddy, it's Terrence Howard. What a psycho thing. Yeah, exactly. Listed after spouse is one of his spouses and then there's a more link. That's a bad sign. Well, he married a lady and then they got divorced and then he married her again. And then remarried her and then divorced her again.
01:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, I see that. And then he's married two other women since then, I think. Oh my goodness. Yep, you're correct. That's crazy. And one of them said that he had a domestic assault accusation. Based on that, I believe it. He's a little weird. Not a little weird. That's psycho. Yeah.
01:08:28
Speaker
I mean, he, he could have slotted into our conspiracy theories episode pretty nicely. Yeah. But instead we had to talk about, what was her name? Bridget? Bridget. Yeah. I don't know. I like her a little bit more than this guy. I like the idea of time travelers that take advantage to like fulfill their silly little
01:08:56
Speaker
Yes. Like I've always wanted to be blah, blah, blah. Like that's a much nicer way of using time travel than. Yeah. I think I can go fix the world. Right. I'm going to go kill Hitler as a baby. And then what? Yeah. Germany's suddenly solved. Like all of the things that were happening, that let World War II happen just disappear. I mean,
01:09:25
Speaker
Hitler's dead. Hitler's a bad dude, but just getting rid of him didn't solve the problem. Just like getting rid of Trump doesn't solve the problem. Yeah, but I hate him. Well, I do too, but that doesn't mean we solve the problem. There's still a bunch of loons out there. That's true. I have a question for you. It's fun. Do you think
01:09:53
Speaker
that if you were given the opportunity ignore ignore like well it wouldn't really solve anything like it would probably still happen even if he had been like had been murdered as a baby do you think if a wizard showed up and said i can
01:10:13
Speaker
Travel you back into baby Hitler's nursery. He'll just be laying in his bassinet. And if you are able to murder this baby, the Holocaust will not happen. Would you be able to look at this baby and murder that baby? So I get...
01:10:40
Speaker
I get put back into the crib. I'm a baby. No. I'm a baby? No, you are you. Oh, I am me. You are you. I am a full adult human. You're a full adult human. Hitler is a baby. Okay, now I have to wait. I gotta get bigger. Okay. Well, you're all ready. Okay. Now I'm looking at the baby. Hitler's a baby in the crib. Nobody's in the room with you. The wizard has promised you that if you kill this guy,
01:11:08
Speaker
This baby, the Holocaust will not happen. There's only one baby in the crib, right? It's just Hitler. It's not Schrodinger's baby? It's not Schrodinger's baby. Could you murder a baby knowing that it's Hitler and knowing that you would save millions of people's lives? Could you do it?
01:11:29
Speaker
I don't
Moral Dilemmas and Hypotheticals
01:11:30
Speaker
know. I'm not sure I could. I think I might be the idiot that would pick up the baby and hug it and say, you don't have to do all that stuff. I love you. You could be good. I promise. You could be good. And then you put it back down and hope. Yeah. And then, of course, the baby at age six would be like, that's the guy that touched me when I didn't want to be touched. Kill him. No, he would have no memories of it because he's not special like that one guy.
01:11:56
Speaker
Um, but that's okay. I think that a lot of people that are like, Oh, I would just kill Hitler. It's like, no, I don't think you could. I don't think I could do it. I don't think you could. I don't think most people could. And that's wild because even, even like you're saying, like setting it up, even knowing with the knowledge, I'm not sure I have it in me to
01:12:16
Speaker
to actually kill a baby. I think mom could. Mom could. She's even got a term for it. Yeah, I think mom could do it. I think mom... Mom, oh my gosh. I need to tell you about this conversation. I need to tell you about this conversation we had because it's very similar. She was reading a book. Are you good telling everybody about this? Yes, it's fine. Did you bring enough stories for the whole class?
01:12:43
Speaker
I think it's the Red Rising series, which I don't enjoy, but the rest of the family likes. But I think it's the series where he has to kill somebody that he knows in order to be risen to the higher ranks. And then he doesn't know, but once he kills this person, they get brought back to life afterwards. But he doesn't know that while he's doing it. So it's like...
01:13:08
Speaker
somebody close to him that he has to murder. Right. Right. Right. And mom was talking about this and she was saying, she was saying if she had to choose a child to kill, she would choose me. Wow. And I was like,
01:13:35
Speaker
You know, I agree with you. I think you should choose me too, but I'm curious to know why you would choose me. Yes, please tell me. And she said, because, because you're allowed in the room together before it happens and I'm allowed to tell, like talk to you. So I would say, Rebecca, it's okay. You'll come back to life. I'm just doing this so I can get to this higher level. But like Maggie and Colby were both in the room and Patrick was in the room.
01:14:02
Speaker
And she said, Maggie, even if I said that, you would be personally hurt by it and you would never forgive me for it. Colby, I don't remember what she said to Colby. She said, Patrick, I think would be too scared and would never let me do it. Or like would make it hard for me. Like would cry and whatever. And she was like, yeah, I think Rebecca, I would kill you. And I was like, hmm.
01:14:27
Speaker
I feel so known and loved. Huh? I don't know how to... Thank you? I don't like... No, that's not good. Cool. Yikes. Good to know. Like, I was a little bit honored that she was like, I could explain it to you and you would, you would get it. And I wouldn't feel like worried about you. So it was a little... I think you got gas lit there.
01:14:53
Speaker
You'd be okay with it if I murdered you, right Rebecca? Well, I agree with her that I would be I agree with her that I would be most likely of the six children to be like if you have to do it to somebody like You know
01:15:17
Speaker
like there was one time we were walking along you know at the cottage we were walking along m22 and it was her me maggie and patrick and she initially was walking on the outside like by the cars and i moved her to the inside and i was like let me walk here because if one of us is killed it should be me because people need you a lot more people need you to be alive than they need me to be alive and she was like
01:15:47
Speaker
You're right. And then we moved on. I've had pretty much the exact same conversation with her where I go along the traffic and I'm like, I'm going to do this because I have the most life insurance and I'm pretty sure I felt her nudge me closer to traffic. No, that's horrible.
01:16:15
Speaker
That could have been something I brought up. My life ain't insured, girl. Yeah. Hers is, but... Yeah, but to a lesser extent. Yeah. Oof. How'd we end up here? I don't know. You're the one that was talking about murder. Yeah. Ow. My guts. My guts hurt. It's not really your guts.
01:16:44
Speaker
It's around my guts. It's that powerful core. It's recovering. Yeah, one of my scabs fell off today. You're welcome. And that's the kind of quality content that people subscribe for.
01:17:07
Speaker
One of my scabs fell off today. One of my scabs fell off today. It was a big moment for me because it was one of the incision sites that I was worried about, but it looks fine. So. Well, one of the ones that was more bruised up. Only one of them was bruised, but it was one of the ones that was like.
01:17:27
Speaker
Like, it's like a, like a, it's hard. It's gross. And like kind of swollen. To me, it looks like the ones on the sides were having more issues. Yeah. They're like some's all the way on, some all the way on the outside. You weren't having issues with any of them. They were just more, you felt them more. Yeah, they, yeah. But I think I'm over the hill. I'm definitely over the hill.
01:17:55
Speaker
Well, you're 51. I think you're just saying you're feeling better. I am feeling better. I am feeling better. I like that. I almost went on a run today. No, you didn't. I did. I thought about it. That's a bad idea. I know. And then I really looked up how long I was supposed to wait. And also it was like 83 degrees. Yeah, it's hot. So I said no. When I ran this morning, it was cold.
01:18:25
Speaker
It's cold. Yeah. It was such a bipolar Michigan day. Polar. When I went outside, it was right around 60. That's nice. But it was wet. It was like foggy, misty, 60. So it's like that wet 60. So it was just like cold. I love that.
01:18:54
Speaker
And then I did my run and I got back and like, didn't bother me, but by the time I got back, I'm like, this is great. Now I get to be hot and cold at the same time. Yeah, hot and with cold water on me. Still felt cold, but I was sweat. So I don't know how to manage that. I don't know how to manage that either. I just don't want to go downstairs into the basement and run into all the,
01:19:24
Speaker
The pee, yeah. That's pretty gross. I think we've done our duties. Our 20 minutes. Are you feeling like this is something we want to share with the world?
01:19:44
Speaker
I don't know, what do you think? I think we talked about interesting things. I had a fun time. I had a fun time. Maybe this is one of the things that we publish, and we say this is a Ramble episode, only the real fans will listen. And if you don't care to, then don't. Check that again. Yeah. Let's just say, sometimes it be would it be, right? Sometimes it be would it be, it do what it did and it be would it baw.
01:20:14
Speaker
Suck it, also. What is going on? Special guest. Fred is here. Little ginger tripod. Hey, boy. Hi, Fred. Oh, he's so cute. Oh. For those of you who aren't watching, this episode. We have our, I gotta give him space so he can get up.
01:20:43
Speaker
What is, what platform is stabbing you? What platform is the video available on? I actually don't know. I don't know. You don't know? I don't know what you're uploading. That's a great sign. I feel like you're uploading video to all of them. So I think... Not on Spotify. I thought there was video on Spotify. I don't know what the hell's going on, Rebecca. When we upload, there's no video on Spotify.
01:21:13
Speaker
Maybe just YouTube then? Maybe. Maybe Apple Podcasts? Do they do video? I don't even know. I don't look at Apple Podcasts. I don't either because I'm not crazy. Hmm. Yeah, there's no video on Spotify. Yeah, I know that. I don't know why we're recording video then.
01:21:41
Speaker
Well, it is uploaded to something, because I've watched video before. Just to like check to make sure it was good. Yeah. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Yeah, Apple Podcasts, there's video. Is there really? Okay. Why not on Spotify? I don't know, but I've never seen video on Spotify.
01:22:08
Speaker
I watch Rogan on Spotify with video. Oh, well, maybe he's special. Well, he's definitely special. Well, okay. So for those of you who, who listen on other platforms and always hear us talking about for the video, it is available podcasts is where you should go if you want to see the video. But if you don't care and you just want to hear our beautiful voices, that's fine too. And I get it.
01:22:40
Speaker
We're going to wrap it up. Um, I am going to announce next week. Oh, wait, what are you going to announce? Are you changing it? Hang on. Ah, what'd you do?
01:22:59
Speaker
Sorry, I accidentally started playing our other episode. Are you listening to your own tracks? I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. You heard the band t-shirt to the concert? I'm going to announce our next topic. I can't wait to hear this because I'm not sure where you're going. Or not our next topic, but what our plan is for the next episode.
01:23:29
Speaker
We changed this. What is in my planner is not correct, I don't think. Well, I think it's going to have to be. I think what's in your. It is a guest episode. Mr. Finch. Okay. That's what we changed it to because I still have it for somebody else. We changed to Mr. Finch. Okay.
01:23:53
Speaker
We'll call him Mr. Finch. We'll call him Mr. Finch because that's actually a character in Bridgerton. Oh no. Is Mr. Finch not joking? Let's do a callback on that one. That's crazy. Yeah, so.
01:24:09
Speaker
Mr. Finch from Bridgerton will be with us next week. And it will be another, it will honestly be pretty similar to this one. We've tested out the style. Our plan, although it will probably be more energetic and infuriating.
01:24:34
Speaker
If I had to label it with two, I would also suggest it is highly likely to be way more inebriated.
01:24:42
Speaker
True. It could be a three-hour episode where we have hammered it. Well, we discussed this idea of like having the shallow and deep dive episodes wherein the two of us drink bourbon instead of wine because we'll be more ready to dive deep if we're drinking some brown.
01:25:06
Speaker
And it seems to me that maybe next episode will be our first episode where we may be partaking a little bit of that lake. We may start sliding down into the deep end. Maybe a little. We will also... I've been referring to it as...
01:25:30
Speaker
Like our Seinfeld episode. It'll be the podcast about nothing, but we kind of just did that. That is true. Although it turned into a Bridgerton episode. Yeah, but Mr. Finch will... Pretty much what we intend to do is like... He's gonna love that we're referring to him as Mr. Finch. We're gonna set him down in front of a microphone and just like turn him on and let him go.
01:25:58
Speaker
and see what we see. And we'll see what we see. So get excited for that. It's going to be long form internet reaction video.
01:26:09
Speaker
You and I will be like, what? What? Didn't you just say it out loud? Explain that. Oh, you can't. Okay, moving on. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that will be next episode, so get excited for that. Hey, look. Oh, a guest. Speaking of guests. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's pretty obnoxious. Get him out of here, please. Okay, Wraith, get out.
01:26:39
Speaker
Tell him to leave. No. What an ass. Yeah, that was annoying. Yeah. That guy wants to be on the podcast. Oh, could you tell? Could you tell that he really wanted attention or? All right. So. All right. So we are going to stay with this posting schedule as best as we can.
01:27:07
Speaker
Follow the Instagram, the shallow end crew. And we'll see you next. Thanks North Carolina crew. Thanks North Carolina crew.
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:27:20
Speaker
Thanks Kathleen. Fox crew. And we'll see you next time. Thank you always, as always to Producer Chase. And Producer Chase. For producing us. Making magic happen. As always. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye guys.