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Elias Hansen: Welcome back, Spurs Journal entry number nine, the Battle for Woke, Texas edition. Um,
charlie: Oh.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, pretty good, right?
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Pretty good. i got another one loaded i got another joke so stay tuned um
charlie: Okay, perfect.
Elias Hansen: But man. It's been a fun week and I'm happy to say. that once again i was right and charlie was wrong it's never felt so good Charlie, how you how you're doing?
charlie: I always do. I was thinking last night, man. I was like, this is the one. This is the one we're going to drop. okay guys That big ass lead.
Elias Hansen: it sure seemed like it it sure seemed like it
charlie: like it was like you know you just felt it in the air when they started going on that run
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: Of course, we were talking about the Mavs game last night on November 4th.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Um...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And, yeah, no, I actually, I was. pleasantly surprised about our performance. I guess the timber rules. And again, we're going to dive into everything specifically.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But, yeah, dude, you were right. I'm happy you were right.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: We're on a roll right now.
Elias Hansen: but
charlie: we're ah Are we 5 -0, 5 -game win streak?
Elias Hansen: I think it's six.
charlie: maybe six.
Elias Hansen: I think we're now six and two.
charlie: It's six. Yeah, 6 -2.
Elias Hansen: six game winning streak. Yeah. I mean, you I had to pull out the, if you're not watching, pull out the Comrade Wemby. Tea for today.
charlie: a
Elias Hansen: um Yeah, we willll definite but most of the time we'll definitely spend on that game. and Wendy's performance, but. As you were saying, so the Spurs, we played three games since we last talked.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: We played the Timberwolves. Utah and then the Mavs. We can we can Go in chronological, starting with the Timberwolves. I didn't have a ton of notes, but I mean, first thing. Important note. short -handed team.
Elias Hansen: Um...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Once again, Ant. Be out for a while.
charlie: No.
Elias Hansen: um No Rudy Gobert in that game either. and um
charlie: Mm -hmm.
Elias Hansen: A lamello ball. I mean, I don't know how much credit to give to the Spurs. for this but lamel ball got in pretty early foul trouble and kept that up for the rest of the game the the mass or the mass the timberwolves were really without
charlie: Mm hmm.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um a lot of firepower And...
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: That said the thing that I did write down that I thought was awesome was just And this is going to be a theme for. the rest of the the other games too. just living at the rim. I think when we had nine dunks.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: at least. i i wrote down in my notes look at stats as in i should look at the stats before we talked I didn't do that. um But... my The eye test told me.
Elias Hansen: that this was the start of a trajectory of building the offense around being close to the basket. and i liked it and it worked and it was an Easy. Easy game to win, it seems like.
charlie: totally Yeah. I mean, mellow. basically it was like in the first quarter he had four fouls and then they didn't really play him until the end of the fourth quarter.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: like like actual minutes until then. so It was an undermanned team, but I mean... I feel like that's just like. That's just the new and NBA. And I think we saw a lot of that like last year too.
charlie: Where it's like...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And and it's it's one of those things where like, it's almost. I feel like harder for our guys like to play. A team where like, you know, the scouting report is all is all wonky because there's so many talented players you don't expect.
charlie: you know a random six -man to go off for 30 points like in the Timberwolves game. and so
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I think... um I think it's... You know, i'm I'm happy that we were able to put the Timberwolves away and prove me wrong.
Elias Hansen: Hmm.
charlie: 43 points. 7 rebounds and 6 blocks.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. yeah
charlie: which is crazy.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: um Almost as crazy as you'd think that would be like the best the best game of the week, but it wasn't.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah
charlie: We'll get to that later.
Elias Hansen: Well, we can talk about it more too, but like... That felt like. ah in difference compared to like the Mavs game, like.
charlie: mm -hmm
Elias Hansen: This Timberwolves 40 point, like it. It was like, I mean, I liked the the living at the room stuff, but that one felt more like. Yep. nice like that's what we Expect.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: This is, like, we'll we'll talk about it. But, like, I feel like, you know, the the downfall of being a Spurs fan is you don't kind of sit and, like, with your jaw open. um because you're more concerned about winning the game but Like.
Elias Hansen: i wasn't i wasn't like absolutely floored it was like oh nice like we're getting we're getting on track maybe that's underselling the performance but
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: it was a good It was a good game, and I'm glad that he scored that many.
charlie: i
charlie: I agree. Same here. And I think it's... a The Timberwolves, I'm excited to see them when Ant is back. I know Rudy's already been playing since since that game. And it seems like there's like some weird, like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, some tension.
charlie: i'm not gonna say tension but like clashing between yeah you'll say between i mean i just saw a clip today rudy like made a layup and mellow was like like high -fiving him and it was almost like patronizing like dude like
Elias Hansen: All set. yeah
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: It's, uh...
Elias Hansen: Hmm.
charlie: I don't know i't know how that's going to end.
Elias Hansen: yeah Yeah, I saw quite a few Shackton of Fool clips with Rudy's performances recently.
charlie: the
Elias Hansen: Some questionable three -point shots.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um I'm, you know.
charlie: He used all of his powers against the Nuggets last year. And now it's now he's done.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. yeah Yeah, but now he's letting out. Um, And I'm just like giddy to get to this Mavs game. like and should we Should we keep going to Utah?
charlie: Same here.
Elias Hansen: Thank you.
charlie: Yeah, we can get through it quickly.
Elias Hansen: um Okay, well we'll we'll charge through.
charlie: those
Elias Hansen: a Utah game, I wrote down that like... you know Once again, despite having... No Wemby. We still... lived at the rim and the defense won that game i thought i mean you know
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: it's the jazz and they looked pretty bad, but like we were able to. shut down all of the schemes and any of the production. that was coming from Utah, any type of little surge.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: from Utah would come from just like pretty remarkable individual shot making. There weren't like breakdowns.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: in the defensive scheme. um And that's good because like. you know there may not be a lot to talk about and we like say like shorthanded team but um shorthanded teams that we're playing. but Like this is what you...
Elias Hansen: This is what you got to do. You have to take care of business and stack wins with the teams that you're supposed to beat.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: um And this one of the signs of a good team is being able to do that consistently. And, you know, the these games, I think we're just like. they're They're not like remarkably sexy. I mean, the 40 point.
Elias Hansen: game with the terminals is not is more sexy but like
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: you know good That is exactly what it's supposed to do. All right.
charlie: Yeah. It's also, it's it's like, it's it's crazy that our our star player can... score 12 points and we still win by 20 points.
Elias Hansen: Yes. Totally.
charlie: you know what i mean and i think that's that's the kind of I guess those are those are the ceilings we've been talking about of like the three guard lineup where it's like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: You know, having Dylan Harper had 17 points, Castle 16, and I think Fox had 20. I forget. I need to find that.
Elias Hansen: Okay.
charlie: But just like having so many scores on the on the team that are able to Like kind of convert and get us a bucket whenever one beers. you know. not doing that or focusing more on the defensive end.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But...
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Well, you know what? Let's just rip the bandaid off. Let's just do it. um What a game. I mean... Uh, I...
Elias Hansen: If you missed... I saw this tweet saying if you missed the election results but saw the Wembley game, it was pretty much the same thing.
charlie: It was...
Elias Hansen: um I saw someone else saying that. Victor now turned into Victor They Them Yama. um And this is how he will be performing.
charlie: You too. um
Elias Hansen: Now that Texas is woke again, woke is back. Um, This was incredible. It was scary, like you said, to see the game almost slip away, but I feel like we almost...
Elias Hansen: i i mentioned this earlier so this is the first thing i want to say like this is one of those uh ones One, it was ah it was a little hard to enjoy as a Spurs fan. um because I was so concerned about winning the game. like ah there This pillow on my couch like got punched quite a few times.
Elias Hansen: um because you could just kind of feel it in that third quarter. And we'll talk about why that run happened. but my overall before we dive into the numbers and all of the analysis and stuff i just think that Like this reminded me of watching.
Elias Hansen: him play, Victor play. like in his rookie and sophomore year when We weren't. really sure what to expect. And it felt like every third time he touched the basketball, you were just like.
Elias Hansen: Holy shit. Like, what the fuck? excuse me, that's a bad one, is happening.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: like And that was the sense that, like like I said, the Timberwolves game, I almost didn't really notice it. This one, like... Right away, you were like... Whoa. Like. This dude just looks so much better.
charlie: a
Elias Hansen: than anyone else it looks like no one can compete with him no one can stop him and he is just
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Absolutely. dominating. on defense, just like like a ridiculous force.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: So that's my that's my table setting. I don't know if you have any intro thoughts, Charlie.
charlie: e
Elias Hansen: I don't know like what parts of it you want to dive into first, but there is a lot. to stick our teeth into.
charlie: Yeah, totally. It's it's something about the Mavs man something that he just brings it out of him to where he has a monster guy I was thinking about like
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: And I completely agree. It felt like one of those nights earlier in his career where kind of nobody on our team or the other team really knows what to do with him.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And I think. What was really... I mean the two most impressive parts of his game, I would say. Tonight we're... Just being able to get in the paint you have the most points in the paint. I think are I think But yeah, most points in the paint he's ever had in a game in his career.
charlie: And that is so important towards. It's I mean it's it's to what everybody's been saying and wanting out of him and hoping for him to get to and it's it's hard because he's so gifted on so many other parts of the game.
charlie: but it it felt like it was a really good. kind of balance of like He's not the biggest. He's not the strongest. Like um okay. Yes.
charlie: He's the tallest but he's not like the biggest like you know strongest player or center there is.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah.
charlie: and it was and that's always kind of been something that i feel like has like kept him from getting to the spots he should be getting into and it felt like this was the game where he was combining his size with like his agility in a way to get into the paint and so like he couldn't back someone down but he had really great post moves and like pivoting and kind of like reverse layups and Just like so many.
charlie: fox connections on alley -oops like it just felt like he was It was the perfect, like. just like peak of using his athleticism to like do the big man things he should be doing.
charlie: You know what I mean?
Elias Hansen: Yeah. I think like i this was either rookie or sophomore year. And I think it was pop. quoted as saying like once vic figures out how to get to the free throw line. Like he's going to be absolutely unstoppable.
Elias Hansen: And like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: This was just beautiful because also it was. It was getting to the free throw line.
charlie: o
Elias Hansen: Like, I don't, I'm not. here to start any debate about how other players get to the free throw line but i mean like He was getting fouled. because...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: he couldn't be stopped and would have scored otherwise.
charlie: o o
Elias Hansen: You know what I mean? It wasn't like he's developed a move to where it wasn't like a lot of rip throughs.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: or like bump and then fade or pump fakes.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: He was like, at the rim.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: with the ball. and you have to foul him.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And it was just like and that's that like.
charlie: Totally.
Elias Hansen: It was so satisfying to watch because those free throws are so well earned. And then. you know We can talk about the end of the game later, but... like to have to To be that large and to just make 17 straight, I think it was.
Elias Hansen: or something to start the game.
charlie: It's crazy. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: like that That is unstoppable. That is, and I think like, like the halftime.
charlie: I mean, yeah
Elias Hansen: um Because at halftime, it was like we were up by 12 or whatever.
charlie: Hmm.
Elias Hansen: Vic had like 30, I think, and already had a crazy stat line. and it like they they cut to Charles Barkley and they were like, He's like, what do you want me to say? Like.
Elias Hansen: What is there to say about this? Like, this is just like. It's incredible. It's like there's nothing you can talk about. like There's no analysis.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um and like I think that's the best way to say it. Like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: ah We should say the the the finishing stat line, 52 points, 24 points.
charlie: It was.
Elias Hansen: 52 points, 24 rebounds, eight blocks. um There were a few steals, there were a few assists. in 34 minutes. And he only had one three -pointer.
charlie: That's the craziest thing too.
Elias Hansen: Usually when we see those stat lines, he is like...
charlie: o
Elias Hansen: 40 % from three and took.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: 9. I mean if he had shot just ah like a little bit better from three.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: this would be like well over a 60 point. um
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: Stat line.
charlie: It's crazy it's
Elias Hansen: It's it's just been the mind -blowing.
charlie: It's so and he but he did again like you were saying like I mean up until the last few minutes of the game he was a hundred percent at the free throw line and like that is such an important thing to note of like
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: and again we'll talk about the other the ending after this but like that's so such an important like distinction between them. him and other like traditionally like great big mans is that like You can't.
charlie: You can't play him like Shaq. You can't foul him and send him to the free throw line. and
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: you know, expect to like get away with it. It's like he. is such a great shooter he was getting to the paint and getting himself like you said in positions where He's either going to get fouled or he's going to score or he's going to do.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: both.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And. And so yeah, he was
Elias Hansen: I thought. that Did you see the the Walter Clayton clip of him defending Walter Clayton?
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: No.
Elias Hansen: where he just like he uh walter clayton's like in the pit and he just like sticks his tongue out after he decides not to shoot it's just like fuck you not gonna happen
charlie: Oh yeah, yeah Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. yeah Yeah, it was like, what was he? How is he feeling?
Elias Hansen: That was awesome Yeah, that i' that definitely described the attitude of him playing defense.
charlie: I also, I think.
Elias Hansen: on It's just like they're throwing a meatball sub for him too. Like the Gafford, like the third time he blocked Gafford in that single possession, which is like maybe the best defensive possession he's had.
charlie: um my god
Elias Hansen: i was literally screaming at the tv like shoot it shoot it shoot it because people still don't learn like there's you saw it later in the game where people would just kind of turn away but like gafford just kind of kept
charlie: Yeah.
charlie: but
Elias Hansen: chucking it up and it's just like that's free that's stat padding
charlie: Chug, chug, yeah.
Elias Hansen: was.
charlie: It's crazy. Yeah, three blocks in 13 seconds.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: on that player. But um... But yeah, no, it was, it was great. And like you said, just like one for eight from three. It's like... ah for 1b that's like really That's pretty bad.
charlie: If he hits a few more of those, it's a 60 -point game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: And. And yeah, just just crazy, crazy night.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Crazy and also I will say like like I think one thing I've... been noticing as well And I saw it. particularly this game when People would be like he only did this was at 34 minutes like It was 34 minutes.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: He only, you know, had the stat line in 34 minutes. like Last year, a 34 -minute game for Victor was like... was crazy. Like I like we I feel like we've been like
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: but We're finally seeing him. get close to more regular like star
Elias Hansen: yeah it was like 25 for a long time for a lot of injury management stuff yeah
charlie: Like. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's that's so exciting to see him being able to because it's like that's one thing I think that. heard us in the playoffs was was like our our are kind of...
charlie: ability to continue. like towards the end of the game at the same rate at the same pace and specifically for victor who's on minutes restrictions for the entire season and all the sun was playing the longest games of his life just back to back to back to back
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And so I think that's like a really exciting thing about the season is like. you know hopefully All goes well. and um We're able to like keep building up those minute minutes and get.
Elias Hansen: Right.
charlie: Victor and the rest of our guys. like accustomed to that.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Well, we can we can go through now that we've talked. I mean, there's not much you can really say to capture. Like that that was, like I said, that was one of those games. And I think like sometimes the comparisons are a little overblown and it's frustrating to like hear the praise because it's like, can we chill out as soon as he doesn't do well?
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: But like talking specifically about that game. the comparisons to like yeah other unicorn players like the bob mcadoo stat lines and like the wilt looking. defensive presence like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Totally fair. um in that game that That is like... You know, he he looked... He lived up to his nicknames. Um, But going into the actual game.
Elias Hansen: I think to to start the game. i The thing I wrote down for the first half was Brewer ball. I don't know how many people listening
Elias Hansen: watched baseball this season or watched the world series or watch the MLB post season at all. But like the brewers, their thing was like, we play brewer ball and it's like, we're manufacturing runs. Like we're going to lay down bunts. Um, we're going to get extra outs. We're going to have long at bats. Um, it may not be like. the sexiest way to get on base we're not going to hit a lot of home runs um we'll have great great hitters, but.
Elias Hansen: We're just going to manufacture runs. And that's that felt like what the Spurs... were doing. for the first half, because it was the story of the entire game that we could not hit the broad side of a bar with.
Elias Hansen: The basketball, like the shooting was absolutely abysmal.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: but it was fine because we were. pushing the ball, getting transition points. getting offensive rebounds. I mean, tons of offensive rebounds. and just finding ways, whether it was Vic at the free throw line, whether it was second chance opportunities, whether it was moving up the floor quicker than the Mavs could set.
Elias Hansen: um when when we When we didn't do that, we didn't score. But pretty consistently in the first half. I was pretty impressed with... how well we were able to play. with I mean, nobody giving us anything. By the second half, Stephon Castle.
Elias Hansen: uh gave a little bit more but i mean The first half, it was Vic and Dylan Harper, and that was it.
charlie: Yeah.
charlie: It was literally... I mean, you the first quarter, I think those are the only two players that scored.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: It was crazy.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Or like for most of the first quarter, not the entire first quarter.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But...
Elias Hansen: And then...
charlie: Yeah. it
Elias Hansen: So we can go from that. Sorry, do you have it yeah you have any any thoughts on first half?
charlie: No, no continue continue continue
Elias Hansen: So we go from that. And we only have Harper and Wemby working. and the Second half starts and we kind of stop. we get We get away from... I don't know if it was necessarily like just fatigue of the game, if it was bad scheming, if it was better defense, just settling into the game for whatever reason.
Elias Hansen: The manufacturing buckets, the brewer ball stops. And the shooting catches up to us. um We still, once again, only have Harper and Wemby on offense. Playing some great defense, and Stephon Caswell gets going a little bit more. um but i mean you you You look at the shooting percentage in the first half and you're like, that's not going to continue.
Elias Hansen: and we're going to like blow the doors off this game. It does continue. And that's going to catch up with you. Like you can't shoot that poorly. I think we shot 14%. From three. by the end of the game
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: and like sub 40 % from the field. by the end of the game so It wasn't surprising that the Mavs caught up. it was frustrating. um But. based on how the game had been going. like It's not always sustainable to just like.
Elias Hansen: be scrappy and fast the entire game. And win. Thank... God, we have this. Freak. who can just score her and have whatever way he wants and completely alter. like cover any mistakes on defense ever.
Elias Hansen: um because without that i mean We didn't help. We did not have a lot going for us. us.
charlie: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's... um I think it's super easy. For people to be like, oh my God, like here come the, it's like the cornet minutes. And then that's when we always lose our lead and one B's out. but i I think it's like It's not like...
charlie: Like this all falls on Cornette. It's like. More of like a rotation and like scheming. problem You know what I mean? like our defensive scheme and our rotation when The guy who's like a one of one freak of nature who we wrote like basically revolve everything around when he's gone How do we what is our? identity.
charlie: And I think that's like. That's like the The most frustrating part of these games is no watching 1B. come in and light it up and then you know at like the eight seven minute mark he gets taken out and Immediately, you know, they go on like a 9 -0 run.
charlie: And it's like. It's and and I will say like I don't I don't think that like Cornette necessarily deserves all the. flack that he's getting but like you know there is There are frustrating moments in plays.
charlie: I will say his his rebounding has gotten better than it was last year.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: Like he's had, I mean, we played a few small teams recently.
Elias Hansen: Putting some like pine tar on his hands or something. I guess he's kids catching the ball a little bit better
charlie: Yeah. um Yeah, but um... But I...
Elias Hansen: i come I like you. You're totally right. Like. I have that in my note.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Cornette pumpkin. comma, apology. What that means is. Cornette is turning into a pumpkin. And then I sit back and think about it some more. And I'm like, you know what? No, I need to write like a love letter to Luke Cornette.
Elias Hansen: Because... I think that like. it Yes, in some ways. like Cornette is not playing as well as he should. Um,
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That's true. But... i i was thinking about like the zach collins comparison i've kind of like quickly made but I think one, the first thing. No matter who who you put in to back up.
Elias Hansen: this player they're gonna look like hot garbage like that's that's gonna be natural
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: to, like you're saying. offenses This is like that clip of like when Kawhi came in. uh to defend lebron in the finals and he's at the free throw line and he like looks back and says Like.
Elias Hansen: The reverse is what happens when Wemby goes to the bench.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It's like everyone on the opposing team's offense is like... Thank. God. Finally, I can play like I typically play.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And so...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: everyone's attacking the basket the offense just everyone has more confidence with the basketball and you do just have worse defense because typically it is the other rotation That's coming in with Cornette. So for a lot of reasons, I totally agree with you that I don't think Cornette.
Elias Hansen: deserves all the blame. However, It's at least worth raising that At this point, how much more beneficial is it to have Cornette on the floor than Terrace Reed on the floor? Because if you're not going to get a lot of offensive production and you're not going to get, it seems like, you know, we used to kind of really, I mean, it's small sample size. It hasn't been a lot of games, but we used to really rely on him ah for fantastic contests, like really good at going vertical up and down. and not fouling. And he's fouling a lot more.
Elias Hansen: And so in that sense, maybe the defense isn't as great as we expected. So what's the what's the net positive? I'm not going to pretend like I know better than the coaches who are around these players all the time. It seems like there's there's a window here to see some terrorist read minutes.
charlie: Bye. I completely agree. I think it's... um I get like why it hasn't happened yet because they were trying to you know determine these things right now, but it feels like that's. Where we're like bound to be heading Because, I mean...
charlie: like it's I was thinking about that the other like yesterday. like There's so so like such little... Offensive production from Cornette. that it's like it's there's nothing that like Like Terrace Reid getting thrown in there, I feel like wouldn't really be...
charlie: that big of a you know inhibitor offensively, which I think is the biggest fear of throwing in your new big guy who like you know can get rebounds but like what is he gonna do in offense um Like, Cornette's not really producing much right now.
charlie: And I think that like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I think I said this last time, but it would be such a... It would help Cornette out too. If like... there was just another big in the mix like i do think like like what it like even like testing out lineups with like cornet and terrace reed or like terrace reed you know With like...
charlie: with wimpy like just like you know if there's if there's just one more guy who can fill that role that like where so much of that weight is falling on wendy's shoulders like it it helps all three of them And so I think that.
charlie: i'm I'm excited for that. I'm also excited for when our... our Our pick, our Jaden, jade and quin how do you say his last name?
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Quintance? Quintance?
charlie: it contains contents uh
Elias Hansen: I don't know. Whoa.
charlie: I uh... Yeah. Um... I am... So excited for him to... recover fully and be a part of in the mix because i think he's gonna unlock something even
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: Even better for us. But.
Elias Hansen: i think I think the other rotation note... um from this game first of all a stat that i should have mentioned when we were talking about Um... only Wemby and Harper producing.
Elias Hansen: um Apparently...
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Dylan Harper has the best rim percentage, like shooting at the rim percentage in the NBA so far this season. um Which I didn't know. i so Someone said that on the broadcast.
charlie: Really?
Elias Hansen: i would Like either Legler or... Mike Breen said that. I didn't fact check it. um But I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, some of the drives he had and the creativity.
Elias Hansen: um it was pretty cool to see him do that like on the same floor as kairi because i feel like that is what What?
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: We know Kyrie to do, but anyways, the other rotation thing that. I wanted to bring up was that we didn't see any Carter Bryant. Last night, Harrison Barnes.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: took those minutes. And.
charlie: I'll be on.
Elias Hansen: i I wonder... why I wonder if that was a decision that was made before the game, if that was made to hopefully get some more mature shooting in the lineup as as the offense looked like stalled without any type of more.
Elias Hansen: you know just manufacturing buckets um But I also wonder like it. It just makes me think like, you know, we have Tobias Harris. Who's going to be playing? A lot. He's either going to...
Elias Hansen: be the first off the bench.
charlie: When? What is he?
Elias Hansen: Yeah, I mean, hopefully, I guess.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I would i would think soon.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um But realistically, that that's the spot. where the log jam happens. And so like, <unk> there's just There's a limited amount of minutes in a game that everyone can play.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um... And I i wonder what... Carter has to show. um to make sure he still keeps some of those minutes because When you don't play against... ah when When Harrison Barnes take your minutes now without...
Elias Hansen: Um... without tobias harris i don't know something to look out for i think as tobias gets healthy
charlie: i I was just... I was just like... kind of talking to someone about this like the first time I've thought like oh like maybe Carter Bryant is not in like the the five -year plan.
charlie: You know what I mean?
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: It sucks. And and again, it's it's still early. like Things can change. would Like at any any day. um But like... I was just just thinking about that. And I i i think he's...
charlie: great and I think he has so much potential, especially defensively. And you know every interview said he worked on a shot over the summer. Hoping to see that in in game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: but um
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But yeah, I don't know. I sense that too, and especially when Tobias Harris comes back. I wonder... how that second unit is gonna look. and and who's who's going to get kind of pushed out of that.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I mean, i like... We thought at the beginning of the season before the three -guard lineup, which we should note the three -guard lineup, the advanced stats for the three -guard lineup. They're looking pretty. Pretty damn good. um the plus minus for those for harper fox and castle It's looking good. but besides the point when we were talking before this season about like thinking about the starting lineup, like a lot of conversation was like,
Elias Hansen: Tobias Harris has to start. Like that must be part of the agreement, part of the conversation. when he comes to San Antonio. um And I don't know, that that'll be interesting to do. Maybe he will...
Elias Hansen: come in for Devin Vassell for some games or start over Devin Vassell. I'd be kind of surprised. I think Vassell has to start. um And. if If he's not starting, he's got to be one of the first off the bench. um
charlie: um I'm hoping he's like...
Elias Hansen: It...
charlie: Like, he helps solve these. these cornet minutes you know what i mean these like rotational
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Because I honestly...
Elias Hansen: Yeah, it's a good point.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: That's a good point
charlie: I think that like... You know, there's also there's a level of like a veteran experience who can come in. And just like stop the bleeding because. I think that.
charlie: like just like a little bit more of like a floor general or someone with just like some experience to be able to handle those those off minutes for 1B. And for some of our like.
charlie: you know higher scoring guards.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I think, I totally, I feel like that's the best case scenario for for Tobias Harris, in my opinion.
Elias Hansen: Bye. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: i think I think that's a very good point. And, like, it was something... that like i Bye, guys. sarcastically said out loud watching the game last night when Some of the second unit was in with like, I think it was probably like a lineup of like Cornette, Champagny.
Elias Hansen: KJ. Um...
charlie: Mm -hmm
Elias Hansen: Castle and then I don't remember well, but it's just like man, like this is some one -on -one basketball. Like, this is just some somebody go take a shot.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And. Tobias Harris can get a shot like that is kind of what he does.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um And he spaces the floor enough to where like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: theres probably but There could be some ripple effects. for whoever is playing. in a backup big position. Oh. Probably Garnett. um I think it's a good thing. Good thing to note. And so hopeful hopefully that is true. Hopefully that does help a lot.
charlie: Yeah. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Well, should we talk about the the the closing of this game? the the
charlie: Oh, yeah.
Elias Hansen: I am.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It was scary. so um i'm I'm quite sure that anybody listening to this watch watch the game, but... When he goes from making 17 or 18 straight. Um...
Elias Hansen: and then misses four? in a row.
charlie: I think it was three in a row and he made the fourth one.
Elias Hansen: I believe. Three in a row.
charlie: And that's how we went up by one.
Elias Hansen: Okay. Okay. So kind of some flashbacks to end of last year.
charlie: And...
Elias Hansen: missing some clutch free throws.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Weird. I mean, whatever he made. by far the majority of them, but This free throw meltdown at the very end of the game kind of allowed... and i like I think it's worth pointing out... like Yes, his entering percentage. was still fantastic and it was like an otherworldly game.
Elias Hansen: But like. making free throws at a clutch time in the game. is like, I don't, it's like, I don't want to like, it's ah the gamblers fallacy. Like I'm not going to. look back and think about what his percentage was before and still congratulate him and be like, it's okay that you missed those. No, like those are the shots that you have to make.
Elias Hansen: um
charlie: The end.
Elias Hansen: So they're important um it's important to point out the meltdown. um And I thought the other interesting thing... The Spurs. um So the Spurs have the ball.
Elias Hansen: And they are. down one, if I'm remembering correctly. With about 35 seconds left um and get the ball.
Elias Hansen: and get it. Uh, the court And it becomes pretty clear. pretty quickly. that the Spurs are not going to execute a two for one. And...
charlie: Oh yeah.
Elias Hansen: Maybe there's just differing philosophies about this. but it seems pretty consistently at the end of games or even in the middle of games We are not good at doing that. So right away, it's like...
charlie: Amen.
Elias Hansen: Uh oh. ah we need to get a good shot here. I guess we are really making sure we're going to get a good shot.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And so Fox kind of prods a little bit. um And it's clear that there's not like a specific scheme that is in motion right now or that is working. Um...
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: there there's not ah maybe I'm sure there's a plan, but there wasn't like a... drawn -up idea of what this offensive... it's going to be And so then I'm like, Oh, God. And thankfully, like we get the ball to Wemby with about like.
Elias Hansen: 26 seconds left and he gets kind of a bailout fatigue foul. Um,
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It's just like a very obvious foul. Worked out. Made them. Go up one. But. I thought that was like... That foul doesn't happen.
Elias Hansen: That that is something that gets scrutinized a lot more Like that was an opportunity. to get a shot and then maybe a rebound. I don't know.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I'm not a coach. But... that was a little That was like a head -scratcher for me. like Why do did we not try to get up the floor a little bit quicker and get a shot up, considering how many offensive rebounds we've had?
Elias Hansen: um the like giant that has 30 rebounds right now that will be near the basket like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: This seems like all the ingredients you need to... motivate you to do. Go for a two -for -one. I don't know
charlie: I agree. and I think there was a few moments like that. There was that moment where like the ball got kind of deflected. into the backcourt like a minute before that and Devin Vassell ran after it.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Like didn't really know there was like five seconds left on the shot clock.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah
charlie: 1B has to chuck up like a Logo 3.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Like. barely gets it off and obviously he misses i think there's just like It's kind of the same thing we were talking about. you know about the end of last season where it's like when it's when you're in those moments When it's like, okay. game on the line.
charlie: you need a bucket right now it's like these kind of like five minute like scenarios or like two minute drills And. um Like. It just still sometimes...
charlie: i mean most of the time feels like we just don't have Things that we can fall back on that aren't just like iso ball like bad shots
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: And it's like, I don't think. I think there's like like Dylan Harper and Fox are maybe the kind of players that can like. consistently do that. I don't know if. if like Unless Wemby's in the paint, but like him like having the ball like on the elbow or like... you know kind of the three -point line like that's not where you want to run a play when you're in that situation or like start a play even
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: um But yeah.
Elias Hansen: and And so, you know doom and gloom But it's worth noting. um And also, you know, righted the free throw wrongs that happened earlier, and we go up one.
Elias Hansen: And. The final possession. ah by the Mavs. This was like... Such. Awesome defense.
charlie: mm -hmm
Elias Hansen: Like. And I want to talk about it like in detail. Because the most obvious thing, first of all, like I watched this play a few times. The most obvious thing was like Fox.
Elias Hansen: getting in front of Kyrie, like Kyrie Irving, the guy who gets around people.
charlie: Yeah. Dude. Yeah, okay.
Elias Hansen: But the reason he was able to do that.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And it like doesn't show up on the stat sheet. For Vic. is if you look at that play, Victor is guarding two people.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: on the left wing. And. Darren Fox has angled his body and is guarding Kyrie. So he's trying to force him left. Like he is trying to get him to split Fox and Wemby and try to make his way to the basket.
Elias Hansen: And.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Rightfully so. Kyrie is like, I can't do that. That's not going to happen. Victor takes half a step and is completely in front of me.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: We'll swallow up any passer shot. that I can even dream of. So because of that, Because of he he shades him a little bit, because Vic is there with his arms out. He has to go right. and he has to go try to try to get around to the right of the free throw line.
charlie: e
Elias Hansen: And because of that. Fox is able to move his feet and stay completely in front. of Kyrie the entire team time and force him to chuck up a really bad shot. And it was like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Not only like... All credit to Fox, doesn't foul, moves his feet, stays in front of like one of the toughest toughest players to defend, if not the toughest player to defend in the and NBA.
charlie: move
Elias Hansen: But that happens. because of the defensive presence of Wemby. And it was just like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yes, like watching that happen. It was like yes when we are composed and we're How we have smart. like collected basketball players who know, okay, I can cheat off a little bit like this because I have the best defender in the world right next to me. Like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: you're not going to get a good shot off. um
charlie: Totally.
Elias Hansen: it was it was It was just awesome. And then like the steal at the end, it was frantic and it was scary, but it was exactly what I would have wanted.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: from any defensive possession against Kyrie. Like i I never would have thought I'd be so comfortable saying. Let's have Fox guard Kyrie Irving and give Kyrie Irving the ball with a chance to get a shot to win the game.
charlie: She has to win the game, yeah.
Elias Hansen: And it was. Because of someone who wasn't even guarding. Him. being kind of nearby. Just awesome.
charlie: Yeah. It was great. And I think it's a great. thing to point out about Wimby's. effect on that um Because I was definitely watching Fox and being like, you know, he stood in up stood him up in a great way, made him pick up the ball, force a bad shot, didn't foul.
charlie: um It was also weird that, like... I feel like the Mavericks, too, were a little like confused on what their... goal was i think there was like there was like a second more on the clock then there wasn't a shot clock
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And they just kind of like held the ball for 12 seconds and then put up a shot with like six seconds left.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah
charlie: Like they didn't even wait the full time. It was like, it was kind of. A weird. like I guess that makes sense. If you theoretically think you're going to hit something, you don't want to give them a ton of time, but then why not wait the whole time?
Elias Hansen: but give yourself to like if you like They were saying this on the broadcast. like You got to give yourself a chance to get a rebound on a shot. If it's a tie game.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. run it all the way down but you're you're gonna lose if you miss and the clock expires.
charlie: Yeah. Yeah, and then he misses, and the ball's kind of thrown around.
Elias Hansen: I don't know. He did.
charlie: It's poked out. Dylan Harper grabs it. But even then, like... 1b was already there like ready arm up and like right on the baseline And. and so yeah it felt like really good to have Like.
charlie: Because ah those are those are it doesn't feel like it as much as like a ah shot, but like those are very clutch moments.
Elias Hansen: Absolutely.
charlie: that like are great for young teams and very like.
Elias Hansen: Yep. Yep.
charlie: Like Fox was clutch right there.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Like, so is Dylan Harper. And like, those are good moments to have.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: and to be in and it was cool harper was asked at the end of the game Like, what'd you think of Fox? like guarding like one of the greatest like ball handlers of all time, maybe the scariest person in the world to have a ball.
charlie: at the end of the game he was like i was not worried at all like like that's fox i trust him like he's got it like and it was
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: it felt like there' there's a bit more confidence there than there has been.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. I like my my shoulder is a little hurt today. Because like... after Harper got that seal, I was like, let's go. And then like immediately like tightened my shoulder up too much.
charlie: Ugh. Threw it out. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. um It was great. it And like I said this earlier. Like. i was so hyped with that last possession in the game because obviously we won and i think that is like true i'm sure spurs fans can relate to that where it's just like yeah, I heard the stuff at halftime and yeah, I was watching the game.
Elias Hansen: But... And yes, I was like jaw on the floor for a lot of these possessions, like some really smart decisions by Vic. But I wasn't like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Oh my God, Victor WBO, he's a generational talent. I was like, we need to win this damn game. Like, what are we going to do to win this game?
charlie: I know, same here. I was like, bro, we're gonna spoil this fucking...
Elias Hansen: like i'm enjoying like you know all the content today of these like edits of like and like everyone's saying like he's like will chamberlain And now I'm like, okay, yeah, true.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: But at the time, it was like, ooh, just.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: pull this out and it was a great way to do it.
charlie: great way
Elias Hansen: And I think the other quote, this is the last thing I do have written down about this game. um The quote after the game. From Vic saying like, oh yeah, I've been sick. And I was actually like a little bit sick.
Elias Hansen: This game still.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And sometimes I don't know like I'm gonna choose to believe him If that's true, it's like, that's ridiculous.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: I have a slight cold and and I'm like a...
charlie: if
Elias Hansen: I don't think I can get any work done on my laptop while sitting on the couch. Like I might have to call it for today. um Yeah, hopefully I'd like his comments about like I didn't have my legs under me like Hopefully more and more games will start to look like this.
Elias Hansen: It's like yeah. sure
charlie: That is awesome.
Elias Hansen: You're damn right, I hope so. Yeah.
charlie: Hopefully. And he then he gave the game ball to Mitch Johnson.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, it was awesome what a hundredth win
charlie: A hundred... 100 career that's so crazy that's like nothing that's so little it's like it's
Elias Hansen: I know. I know. I know. That is pretty weird.
charlie: It's so crazy. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Well, that is the last I had for the game. Do you have anything else for the Mavs game or the last few games?
charlie: Uh... i don't think so i think we can maybe try some predictions for maybe i'm gonna finally get one
Elias Hansen: Okay.
Elias Hansen: Well, did you did you watch the 60 Minutes?
charlie: a I actually have not. I have not.
Elias Hansen: Okay, okay, well...
charlie: it
Elias Hansen: but My two things, my two favorite things from the 60 minutes. Apparently there's like more extra clips that you can watch. ah
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I am an ignorant... 60 -minute watcher. and My understanding. based on the title, I think you could understand my confusion is that like, it's a story that lasts an hour. So I was like, parked on the couch like i'm gonna like alan is gonna be so good it's like a movie of about wendy and then there were like four stories it's like
charlie: That's what I thought too. It was like 10 minutes if ah
Elias Hansen: the Iran war I'm like who cares wake me up when this is over um so it was not in fact 60 minutes it was like you said it was more like 10 or 15 but Still cool.
charlie: ah and
Elias Hansen: My favorite things said was just like they asked. One, they asked Wemby about like some of his favorite. pop isms uh from like the film room or whatever and ah this is i don't think this is like credited to pop this is kind of like a coaching thing but I just thought it was a good quote like you're never as after a win you're never as good as you think you are and after a loss you're never as bad as you think you are I think that's a great
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Love that. Love that approach. it's Very true, especially in the NBA, such a talented league.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um But the other thing. was... how much time was talk spent talking about injury prevention. And it ties in well to, Miss Johnson was just quoted, I think today.
Elias Hansen: um He got asked about, like, you know, is all are all these injuries around the and NBA changing anything you do? with the approach to like playing time and preparation. And he was like, no, nothing has changed. This has always been part of the plan. What?
Elias Hansen: hearing if you haven't heard it like hearing when we talk about like specifically his feet how much he takes care of his feet um
charlie: Yeah, the barefoot. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It's cool, and it's like... Thank God. Thank God that our like precious star. is absolutely like kind of insanely obsessed. with doing everything he can to stay healthy.
Elias Hansen: Like that's what you got to do, especially when you're built like that.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: So. It was cool.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It's a fun interview. um Yeah. Check it out, I guess.
charlie: alright i've seen i've seen all the clips and it's like only 10 minutes so i'm like man i gotta
Elias Hansen: Yeah. yeah At this point, like you've probably seen.
charlie: It's probably 90 % of it, but I'll definitely watch it.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah. So... Looking ahead to next week, we'll have probably four games. um
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: we got We have Kings on Friday. That's the first of the and NBA Cup group play games to face the fearsome Kings again.
charlie: Oh wow.
Elias Hansen: Um, Then the next night on a back -to -back, we'll be traveling to Portland. to play. This is part of a a four game road trip. By the way, we'll we we be going to Sacramento. They're probably already in Sacramento.
Elias Hansen: or maybe on the way there. for the NBA cup. Then we're going to Portland Saturday night to play the Trailblazers. Monday night, going to Phoenix to play the Suns.
Elias Hansen: And then Wednesday night, we'll be traveling to Chicago to play the Bulls. Um, First blush, Charlie, what do you think? what do what do you What do you think about the games coming up? any Anything you're looking for?
charlie: I think the two... Two games I'm either thinking about, I think about the Trailblazers. um And we obviously knocked them out of the playoffs and they. very outspokenly did not like us and did not like wimby Um...
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: So these are all things I'm i'm thinking about.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: They now have Damian Lillard.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: Cool. I don't know if you'll remember, but it was like kind of like. hinting that he would make a surprise appearance when they were playing us in the playoffs
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah, I do remember that
charlie: And it was like, there's like all these like mind games happening. And I'm sure.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I'm sure that's another one where like. The date is circled. And. Yeah, I think i mean John Morant is going to be out, so we don't really get to see that. form of them. I mean we were we really We never lost to them in the playoffs when Wemby was playing.
charlie: I'm assuming he will be playing.
Elias Hansen: Right. Yeah.
charlie: um They weren't an easy team though. Like it wasn't like.
Elias Hansen: Mm -mm.
charlie: Just like a walk in the park. But I think if we're playing... like the way we've been playing. And I think we... We kind of talked about this a few weeks ago where like... Really this whole month is just like should be a very like just like winning month you know what i mean like it's any any losses are going to be us getting in our own way not because
Elias Hansen: Yes.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: we were facing like a sizable opponent. um
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But yeah, no, I think about... I think about the Trailblazers and I think about the Suns. um Because I know that like... uh Dylan Brooks like loves to be a thorn in player's sides and he's like I don't know how many of the clips you've seen but like over the offseason he's like was saying all off he's like my next guy is Wemby that's gonna be my next guy that I like you know
Elias Hansen: Yeah, true.
Elias Hansen: Oh Jesus. Okay.
charlie: So I'm excited to see that.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: i um
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Did you see him try to step on Damian Lillard's Achilles?
charlie: No.
Elias Hansen: Yes, after a dead ball.
charlie: um
Elias Hansen: He like, okay, step might be a little bit of hyperbole, but he like. Kicked his foot out a little bit to try to hit Damian Lillard in the back of the heel. they got into it too like david willard was like what the hell was that But yeah, that was like.
charlie: Oh my God.
Elias Hansen: oh my god That was ridiculous. um But yeah, I agree with you.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: like soft schedule Um...
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: the one i have circled is the portland game two thought the same thing like where we
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I'm sure Portland is going to be up for this game. like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It's easy to like... you know Portland was the first team we beat, and then we had much bigger fish to fry. and kind of stop thinking about Portland, but when your season ends because of one team, it's like us with the Knicks.
charlie: e
Elias Hansen: Like I'm sure when we see the Knicks, we'll be like. god it would be fantastic to beat this team um i think the biggest thing too is like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: ah You're already in Sacramento, so it's a little bit better, but like that's the worst place. worse Maybe other than Toronto to like fly to in the NBA. um And it's a back -to -back. um So i'm I'm sure we'll be.
Elias Hansen: Kind of tired. I'm sure people will be amped up for the cup game. I mean, the Kings suck. So like... Hopefully. I think ideally we get to kind of manage some minutes in the Kings game if we punch early enough, kind of like last time and are able to rest.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: players so we they're a little bit more fresh from saturday But, I mean, the Suns... um have had a really awful start to the season. um they're like kind of like a what the hell's going on team right now.
Elias Hansen: That is true, Dylan Brooks.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That'll be interesting to see. And then same with the bulls. like this The Kings, if you if you wanted to pick like three teams to play right now, you'd probably pick like Kings, Suns, and Bulls.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um, they're really they're not playing well at all it doesn't mean it's nba anything can happen but like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: you know. I... Got a good chance to stack some wins. here. I think.
charlie: I agree. I agree. I think we should take care of... the Portland Trailblazers, but that is the one. If we drop any of these, that would be... I wouldn't be as shocked if it was them.
charlie: um
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: But I think we're up for it. I still think they're... They're a really good, exciting young team, but I don't think they're... i don't think they're developed enough yeah i don't i don't really trust like i think they got some great bets like drew holiday i think is such a great guy for them i think dame is great i haven't really seen how he's been playing but
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: we If we play like we've been playing... We'll we'll win out until next week.
Elias Hansen: Okay.
charlie: And then we got the Warriors.
Elias Hansen: Okay. So that's a prediction. We're going 4 -0.
charlie: Yeah, maybe I'm gonna jinx us you know that it's like
Elias Hansen: Okay. Yeah, I i am going to go three and one.
charlie: Okay.
Elias Hansen: i The trilogy isn't playing well. playing really well i mean they're six and one
charlie: You're 6 -1, yeah.
Elias Hansen: um i think I think that like... More so than... Like. they are better and we will lose i just think like the combination of like Coming off an NBA Cup game, back -to -back, at home, against a team that you knocked out of the playoffs. like i'm not I'm not... very confident that we'll lose that game. I think there's still a very good chance we could win. Like.
Elias Hansen: um But if I were a betting man. which I'm not. I would bet. that we would go three and one losing. in Portland. That's my guess.
charlie: Okay. And then we got a big one on Friday.
Elias Hansen: that's my guess
charlie: on November 13.
Elias Hansen: We do. The next NBA Cup game is going to be fun.
charlie: Yeah, remember, yeah, Curry and the Warriors.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, that Draymond clip.
charlie: for some reason.
Elias Hansen: last Last time we played him in the cup?
charlie: Oh my god.
Elias Hansen: Oh, man.
charlie: And then Curry back -to -back 40 -point games against us last season.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: with the...
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And Yaxel Lindenborg is looking absolutely insane.
charlie: He's looking great.
Elias Hansen: um That's going to be a fun one.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That's going to be fun.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Hopefully we'll we'll have a little bit more reps and we can talk about it. A little bit more detail and also very exciting next week. Episode number 10, double digits.
charlie: Crazy. Crazy.
Elias Hansen: Come on.
charlie: Let's go.
Elias Hansen: That's what I'm talking about. Um, but that's what we got i think charlotte unless you got anything else
charlie: I'm good. i've I set my my predictions.
Elias Hansen: All right Yep.
charlie: I'm going to jinx it. We're going to lose probably two games now.
Elias Hansen: Staked your claim.
charlie: so
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well. Thanks for listening if you did, and we'll talk to you all later.
