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Elias Hansen: Okay. Welcome back. Spurs journal entry number eight. a mixed bag edition.
charlie: Let's go.
Elias Hansen: Charlie, I just watched ah Halloween, so I'm a little on edge still.
charlie: ah
Elias Hansen: It's actually my first time watching Halloween. My girlfriend hates scary movies, so I have to watch them when I get the chance. So I was like, okay, I love Halloween. Gotta get in the spirit. I'd never seen the original. So anyways, I'm on edge.
Elias Hansen: How are you doing?
charlie: Okay. You know, I can, there's a little bit of of peace. And like, as the the day we're filming, this is the night after the Spurs closed a close game.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: Huge.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: huge you know what i mean that's
Elias Hansen: Yep, true. There'd be very different tone to the start of this podcast if that game had gone differently.
charlie: Good. There's, you know, there's...
Elias Hansen: If Mitch Johnson had gotten that timeout.
charlie: a oh god yeah well yeah it'll get to that but overall i'm feeling like
Elias Hansen: We'll get to it.
charlie: You know, there's some peace in that, obviously. my predictions did not pan out like I thought they would you were you were You nailed it.
Elias Hansen: I gotta say, Charlie. I nailed it. I thought about saying Elias is always right edition at the start of this podcast, but I wanted to keep it about the game, but. Hey, if you want to know about what's going to come next, listen to Spurs Journal.
Elias Hansen: And preferably Elias.
charlie: Elias Picks. Sports vetting. Spread.
Elias Hansen: That's right. Yeah, yeah.
charlie: if
Elias Hansen: Cool. So we'll we'll run through the four games that have happened since we talked last. That was Houston -Dallas. Sacramento, and then Utah last night. And then we'll talk about some other random stuff.
Elias Hansen: Well, not random, but other stuff around the league, Spurs related, non -Spurs related.
charlie: and
Elias Hansen: and then maybe quickly hit some of those games coming up before we talk to y 'all. Again. So. Kick it off. we'll We'll start on the lowest note. We'll start. with the Houston game.
Elias Hansen: um I'll kind of give my my thoughts. my My thoughts are... Unfortunately, what I thought would happen. uh, happened. Happened. Um. It feels a little better now, seeing that the Rockets seem to be one of the hottest teams. in the league.
Elias Hansen: and have been spared from the injury bug. but The Spurs in that game. got completely ran off the floor. the They played very it seemed like a very similar script.
Elias Hansen: to the thunder gri Thunder game, maybe a little bit more fast -paced. The Spurs got locked down. on defense. And the Rockets. capitalized on Fast -paced. I mean...
Elias Hansen: on on misses, on rebounds, even on made baskets. The Rockets were down the floor. um at a pace that we just We just really. couldn't couldn't keep up with What would you think about the game, Charlie?
charlie: Yeah, I think like most. fans. you know We had a... ah very disappointing opening night. and and opening like disappointing not just because of the loss and you know the team we were playing
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: But like I think the way in which we lost felt like very familiar. And...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And. um And so I think going into, you know, the Rockets game, you're like, okay. These problems haven't really changed too much over the offseason like we'd hoped, but also, you know, there's...
charlie: some grace. It's it's a... you know hang over from a great finals run It's Russ from the offseason. It's, you know, a new lineup, which we talked about last time.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Um. But yeah, it was a bummer because it it it felt like... we were kind of getting like bullied in the same ways that like other teams have kind of figured out how to play us.
Elias Hansen: Exactly.
charlie: As of recently, you know what I mean? um I think that... there were Like a number of things that were an improvement from the OKC game.
charlie: But ultimately it was it was definitely a disappointment and I feel like
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: You know, you can point to a few things like you were saying Also, like, Shangoon, like, just...
Elias Hansen: that's in my note I have my little phone notes pulled up that I take during the game.
charlie: So... That's... her
Elias Hansen: And my note about Shingun says, and if you're watching, you can see it. It says, Shingun nasty ball. I hate watching him play basketball. It's like Jokic's evil.
Elias Hansen: cousin
charlie: You're young.
Elias Hansen: It's just like offensive foul your way to the bat. This off -arm hook that it's never called.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Use it every time until you get a defensive foul, which is a defensive foul, but not.
charlie: Yeah.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: before the offensive foul, but yeah. Oof.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: He, uh...
charlie: and I mean, there's there's a reason why he's so, like, hated.
Elias Hansen: Most...
charlie: it's
Elias Hansen: Yes, most times it seems like when we play him, we can. expose his style of play to make it seem ridiculous and there's memes made about the way he's playing when he plays this but
charlie: Mm.
Elias Hansen: Unfortunately, that night. It worked. It worked. He could bully. um Bully really anyone, especially Cornette, unfortunately. And we'll talk about Cornette more, but.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Shingun.
charlie: We're not done with you, Cornette.
Elias Hansen: we're coming back to you buddy um Yeah, he he took over the end of that game and made it really impossible. It seemed like we were building a little bit of momentum and that towards the mid of the fourth.
Elias Hansen: quarter and Just couldn't sustain anything because of those tough and one tough. free throws from jangoon
charlie: Yeah, and I honestly like... Credit where credit's due. In the beginning of the game, Wemby had, like, at least, I think, two blocks on him, and it would kind of, he did his...
Elias Hansen: Mm hmm.
charlie: He was doing the exact same thing where he just like scoots into the paint.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: you know kind of tries to pump fake and then tries to go just straight up with strength and like At the beginning of the game that just wasn't working for him and he just kept chugging along and doing that and then Just. By the fourth quarter, it seemed like they just ran the same thing like three times in a row, and he kept getting the calls.
charlie: And. Yeah, like you were saying, it just always felt like we would. you know, make a bit of a run. get some momentum and then just something we just take. the breath out of our our run and and we'd just be back to where we were.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: but
Elias Hansen: Yeah, i I will say the way that... The game ended. Like, uh... All all ah in in throughout the game, all credit to the Rockets like they played fantastic defense.
Elias Hansen: um Their offense looked...
charlie: o
Elias Hansen: great like they were just running all the problems like when I remember the I went to a few of the later season I went to the game. Where. Champagny hit bit like a billion threes and then the Rockets came back and won. And then I went to the game where the Spurs, it was kind of a close game. I don't remember the specifics, but Spurs ended up winning. But in both of those games, the Spurs were able to.
Elias Hansen: I mean, this was out without Van Vliet and without Steven Adams, but they were able to slow the Rockets down and force them to try to create a half court and expose. I remember one of the games I was at was like.
Elias Hansen: one of the poster child games of like Amen Thompson. has to be playing with a point guard because we would just
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Let him even be open from the from the free throw line. Um, And he couldn't do anything. But they moved quick enough up and down the court that that was not a concern. People were cutting. They were getting rebounds. They were getting free throws. Amin Thompson has approved. improve his free throw shot. But all that to say.
Elias Hansen: That block at the end of the game was. Absolutely spectacular. Um, i i it seemed to me like wendy was trying to lay it up i feel like he probably should have tried to go through Amen and Dunk It.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um, But regardless, like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That dude's a freak of nature. that was an incredible block you just kind of yeah at that and With that, you just kind of have to tip your hat. We got it to where we wanted it. And somehow...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: when we got blocked at the rim. I mean, okay. if you you give me You give me that. Maybe not that specific shot would have liked him to dunk it, but you give me that action where Wemby gets the ball. you know, two feet from the rim with three seconds left. to to win a game.
Elias Hansen: I'll take that Every time.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: You gotta live with it.
Elias Hansen: No problem. Yep.
charlie: Yeah. and i And I think that's that's another another part of this game that was just...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: really like Hurting the Spurs was... I think I did not expect a band fleet to come out like that. i really I haven't seen him play in so long. that He was really so crucial to their speed.
charlie: His three -point shot was going. It was just... he was I think he was like the star of that game for a lot of the game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Yeah, I heard it said before the season, and it seems like it may be true over the past few games. like The Rockets. Especially now, like... It seems like they might be the other. team up in this tier. that everyone had been proclaiming that the Spurs and Thunder were in alone.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: The rockets look great. And we're going to have to play them again. And. We'll hopefully be better prepared. um Maybe a little bit more of a fluid offense. but That game, I think. you know it's the second game of the season Like I said.
Elias Hansen: No need to overreact too much. hopefully learn from it. um But it does suck. It does suck to lose that way. So moving on, we'll move on to the first win of the season.
Elias Hansen: um against the Texas Legends G League team. that we somehow managed to beat.
charlie: Mhmm.
Elias Hansen: Dallas. had just about everybody out. Um, And... We won!
charlie: Almost how they call up Sohan from the G League.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, congratulations, first first pick.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: So, Han. In the first half, I wrote this down, I heard... um The Mavs. had 46 points. In the paint in the first half alone, 46 points. That is a. Mavericks record, franchise record.
Elias Hansen: For points scored. in the paint against any team. at... Anytime. Um. The first half of this game first. honestly like three quarters of this game.
Elias Hansen: was pretty ugly. We relied once again on three -point shooting. um Offense. didn't have enough motion to figure anything out in the half court.
Elias Hansen: um it It got bad enough to where after the game. interviewing Darren Fox. um and a few other players it became clear when be. deflected I don't know if deflected. He said there was a different reason, but it seemed like Mitch Johnson pulled Wemby out because he was so disappointed.
Elias Hansen: with ah his effort.
charlie: me
Elias Hansen: And that was that was a pretty. consistent case. I mean, the Spurs, you know. I'll say, and then I'll shut up. The Spurs, you know, we turned it around and ended up winning by double digits. as we should. against a team that was that...
Elias Hansen: um You know. under undermanned. um But there was a concerning, you know, the for the first. Two and a half games of the season. there was starting to creep in some sense of... Uh -oh. Like.
Elias Hansen: we can't seem We don't have the same intensity on defense.
charlie: proud bulch
Elias Hansen: and We can't really create anything right now. But we won.
charlie: Yeah. And I think the... The biggest things that I was hearing as like that were kind of like the biggest disappointments of these first few games. Especially when...
charlie: Up until that fourth quarter when we kind of. Took a you know a lead and held on to it and ended up closing out the game But it was one, it was obviously a lot of people were kind of shocked at when B's playing in the first few games.
charlie: And two is our three -point shooting. That was just...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: has not been looking good. um also even our three -point defending too like and that was something that was really
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: not to bring it back to okc but just like our rotations closing out shooters just keep like kept leaving people open.
Elias Hansen: It's true, yeah. They were open threes.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And um but I think that. this This Mavericks game, it was... It was not. be pretty you know it wasn't it wasn't clean but i i like there's what other way can you get yourself out of
Elias Hansen: No.
charlie: you know a bad Season start. You know what I mean?
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: You just got to put your head down and figure it out. And Vic did have. away. better game that night and he shot a lot better. um I think we saw like...
charlie: Harper had a good game too, who's also... you know had some some troubles but still looking pretty pretty decent pretty great for us um But I think, yeah, I think this is...
charlie: Not the prettiest win, but it was definitely. necessary and being able even though it was Not till the fourth quarter to so squeak out like a. comfortable double -digit win I think it's very important for the team and for the fans. if we're everyone in the program too.
charlie: kind of have that under their belt and Get the ball rolling.
Elias Hansen: absolutely yeah i think that and i this may be true for more of the the kings and the jazz game
charlie: Mm -hmm.
Elias Hansen: um But it's it's a little bit of like a product of. um like watching a team be so good but like I feel like for the past more than two games with that game to you would kind of.
Elias Hansen: get the sense of like uh you know wendy's not having a great game like even in the first game wendy had an awful game was still had a positive plus minus which is insane but when he's not having a great game and oh my god
charlie: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I have this incredible ability and you can ask my girlfriend. I have this incredible ability that anytime I genuinely think. the Spurs put up a bad shot. Like if Steph Castle is shooting a three. And I out loud, before the shot like goes up, I'm like, oh my God, don't shoot that.
Elias Hansen: It goes in every time. So this may contribute to it.
charlie: and
Elias Hansen: a little bit but I feel like I would just kind of look up. And like, oh, like, actually, when B has a solid double double and like has a few blocks and.
charlie: Hmm.
Elias Hansen: Wait, it like. Steph Castle's shooting percentage from three is higher than his shooting percentage on layups. so far.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: this season. And the is shooting improved is is improved a lot.
charlie: it's It's great. and
Elias Hansen: um So I think that there's like some blinders of like.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: you know expectations that happens when you watch the team um and so that
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That could be impacting it a little bit, but... The Dallas win was definitely... Kind of an ugly win. We'll get a chance to see Dallas again. uh, And. Yeah. Good first win. Good first win. Like, you know.
Elias Hansen: chalk it up, move on.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Nice work. Got it done.
charlie: And. i will i will say i can't remember i don't think i talked about this last time um because thiss it's become more apparent since the last one but Uh... Castles.
charlie: shooting and his like confidence and his willingness to because that was That became the game plan for so much of... the playoffs, especially when we would play like the thunder. which they would just sag off on Castle. And then we it was almost like we were playing down a man because of the way they could construct their defense.
charlie: and leave castle just like kind of on an island beyond the arc but To like his. his He's obviously put in the work. He's obviously... I just had like a change in mindset of like.
charlie: I have the space. like I'm going to take the shot. And he's shooting. really well. Like it it is really
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And I think people also forget that he had a massive. three -point percentage increase from his first season to his second season.
Elias Hansen: Mm hmm.
charlie: too. And so this is something like he's been working on. It's not just this off season. But. um i don't know i think i'm really i'm really happy with seeing that it's like you see it in person watching the tv and you're still like oh why why is he taking that shot but like
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: it really is has been a great a great step up in his game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. And i'm for the first two and a half games, like. his He still had a good shooting percentage, but They were the only open looks we were getting.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: So it's easy to see it and say, okay, we're taking...
charlie: Hmm.
Elias Hansen: this bailout shot, but.
charlie: Uh -huh.
Elias Hansen: after those first two and a half games. when you start getting more north south action when we're running in transition And that shot becomes open or Steph becomes the open shooter after a drive and kick.
charlie: ma Yeah.
Elias Hansen: or after the ball's moved around a little bit, after there's a pick and pop.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Then it's like. okay, now we have a pretty good shooter taking this open shot and it makes more sense. um So I think like... It'll be interesting to see because we'll definitely run into like this is gonna happen again where the offense stalls out um We become kind of flat footed and we have to create in the half court.
Elias Hansen: Um. I'm wondering, well, this will just depend on if the shooting percentage keeps up, but like, will those shots keep going up and will I keep going? Like, oh my God. What an awful shot.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: Like, what are we doing?
charlie: Keep getting scared about it.
Elias Hansen: ah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ah Eventually I'm going to adjust because at this point. We would much rather have Steph Castle take a three than Wemby, but... That's not my my reaction when I see it happen.
charlie: Yeah, but even yeah, I mean one B's shooting just started off so horribly like in the first this first games.
Elias Hansen: Oof.
charlie: specifically.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: by By the next one, you know things start to turn around.
Elias Hansen: Oh yeah. ah Yeah, so... We got, well so we went over the rockets. loss. Dallas win. Kings. I'd just like to preface this game by saying. This team. is Hot.
Elias Hansen: garbage. They are Ass. Like they are. It could be historically bad. Like it would not surprise me if they win the fewest games in NBA history. In fact, my dad texted me and was like, Spurs are looking good.
Elias Hansen: And I was like, Kings are historically bad.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um,
charlie: So...
Elias Hansen: So we just have to get that out of the way. like I'm sorry. Kings fans, I don't know like what's happened to your... like What do you mean what's happened? This is the state of your franchise. It's it's awful.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: All of that said, like getting that out of the way.
charlie: oh
Elias Hansen: The Spurs offense. Let's just take it as a practice game. I use it as reps
charlie: Mm -hmm.
Elias Hansen: It looked fantastic.
charlie: It looked great.
Elias Hansen: Like. We were getting downhill. um Moving the ball. um The amount of... Lobs to Vic was absolutely beautiful.
Elias Hansen: Um. All of the offense. Looked. Great. And. Well, I'll stop there. i'll That'll tee it up for I think the main talking point.
Elias Hansen: of this game
charlie: Julian Champagny.
Elias Hansen: Julian Champagne. Julian Champagne.
charlie: Dude, he had a...
Elias Hansen: Jesus.
charlie: he had like a one of those nights that he only has playing against the knicks or something like that it's like um
Elias Hansen: Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, then the New Year's Eve game, yeah.
charlie: Yeah, no, he was he was amazing. And again, it's like... He it's so hard to to look at that and be like, okay, how is there not room for him? in the starting lineup.
charlie: You know what I mean?
Elias Hansen: Oh, gosh. Yeah, no, that is like that is a good segue to talk about it because it's so true.
charlie: And it's like. And it's like. it I mean, because even just... Like, okay, well. In case anybody doesn't know, he had eight threes in 13 minutes.
charlie: In the first half.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, definitely in the first half. yeah
charlie: In the first half, I think it was 13 minutes played, he had eight threes. He went eight for 10, shooting 80 % from three. This is just absurd.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: and And it's like. the amount of spacing and relief that kind of shooter. like just like brings to a floor and like opens up for guys like, you know, Wemby or even Harper or Castle who like want to get to the paint, want to get to the rim.
charlie: And, like, take their high percentage shots, like, right at the basket. It is so crucial for opening up the floor for. you know allowing you know the amount of gravity that wemby has in the game Or that even Dylan Harper has when he has the ball and he's sizing someone up and everyone knows he's going to try and get to the basket. like Having someone like Champagny who can just spread the floor, someone you can just kick it out to.
charlie: It's so crucial. and um He was definitely... showing his worth and showing his value on the court for us. It was it was a...
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: It was a spectacle. I think he he tied.
Elias Hansen: It was. Paul.
charlie: His own record, right?
Elias Hansen: he did yeah yeah tied his own record nba record was 10 really wanted him to get it
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um But yeah, it it was a beautiful game to watch. But to your to your point about... the lineups. This is going to be really interesting because um You know, last season, Mitch Johnson mitch johnson even said like...
Elias Hansen: There were a lot of things that they wanted to try. with the lineup.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: But the expectations set at the season, like they they started, they messed with the lineup a little bit. And then all of a sudden it was like. Holy shit, we're winning. Like. actually were pretty good. And by the time you get to the point of the season.
charlie: oh
Elias Hansen: um where like They needed to... Work with what was working because they were a playoff bound.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: team and they didn't have time to like experiment.
charlie: Mm.
Elias Hansen: with a lot of the lineups and
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I think that there we're just learning quickly that like with this three guard, really four guard lineup because Devin Vassell is a guard too. Um. This three and a half guard lineup.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: There is a... There is a lower floor. than maybe people may have thought, or maybe some people expected that.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: But the Spurs clearly believe that there's a very high ceiling. And they're okay. experimenting because it's it's certainly not lost on like the fantastic basketball minds of in the Spurs organization that like.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Julian Champagny provides an immediate spark of offense and much better spacing.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Like. Yes. Definitely.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: And. They're not purposely. I think there could be an element of like. It is good for the team's future to keep both Fox and Harper happy right now.
Elias Hansen: Bye.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: That is in their best interest on term. There might be a sprinkle of that, but I think a large chunk of it is we can afford. to try more things. And we think that there's more.
Elias Hansen: Like this is worth the juice is worth the squeeze. on this lineup. This isn't Sohan at point. Like. We've had worse experiments. where some We still get the top we took it to have Castle starting um alongside...
charlie: but yeah
Elias Hansen: Um, Harper and Fox like It's pretty damn good um
charlie: it's That's... Yeah.
Elias Hansen: But I wouldn't be surprised. like along the same I wouldn't be surprised if the three and a half guard lineup. is different. Bye. early december even like i don't i don't think that this is a permanent lineup
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And I think a lot of this season will be. Like. figuring out how to raise the ceiling. Because the ceiling wasn't quite high enough.
charlie: in
Elias Hansen: Um, to win the finals and this is this is the like this is the time to do it early in the season when you're playing teams like this and we'll talk about it later but like
charlie: I... Yeah.
Elias Hansen: We got a soft schedule right now. This is when you want to do it.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: like let's Let's try it.
charlie: Yeah, I think like an an underrated. difficulty. like with this lineup. Especially like... in these first few games. Is that. you know, not only is there a learning curve.
charlie: We're experiencing right now with these these five guys on the floor But it' it's been feeling like also our rotations are are so... confused.
charlie: you know they're like they're not super like
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Our rotations were some of like our greatest strengths last season. except for like into the
Elias Hansen: Mm hmm.
charlie: you know playoffs where you know are just every round are are players just kind of shrunk more and more into like the same like seven players by the finals
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Sure, sure.
charlie: But um but ah but for the most part.
Elias Hansen: sure
charlie: most of our success was rooted in, like... the The rotations that we had in this balance, we had of... guys on the floor.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: and what we could bring on off the bench, you know, when we needed to rest rest the starting five. And I think that like. That's something that will also get tweaked as we're you know developing the game plan and developing the the starting five.
charlie: But like, it's like. In a few games, like I remember like it was the Rockets. I mean, I would say... even like OKC a little bit. And also, I mean. Those are the two games we lost, so those are the best examples.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: but like It's like you we start off so... Hot. Like, you know, we're going so fast. and You can see Mitch Johnson on the sideline. He's just like, go, go. Everybody just.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: run as fast as you can. anything happens like Like... You know, Vic, like someone, Vic gets like, you know, someone passes him, gets the shot. He's already sprinting to the other side.
charlie: of the court and that's like There's so much pace and there's so much like. kind of fury in that and then i think that like The difficulty with having all of our... like you know, fastest, most capable.
charlie: Like. bucket getters in the starting five is that
Elias Hansen: Right.
charlie: you know we try and do subs and We... the momentum is lost. And we also, the game plan is is completely different. And I think that. That gets... That's a hard thing.
charlie: especially within the first few games of a season to to nail down like A rotation that's going to inherently change your like the DNA of your offense and defense as people people come in and on.
Elias Hansen: Totally. And. i think I think you nailed it, and I think it's not just... the speed to It's the... like multi -dimensionalness or whatever of the players on the court.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: because. Different players like obviously some are more shot creators, but right now with this four to five like shot creator lineup.
charlie: who
Elias Hansen: This next set of players, like... Keldon. has one move, and it is... Drive hard and spin move and put it up Julian Champagny. is a three point shooter.
Elias Hansen: Cornette. is like a rim defender. screen setter. Um... Who am I missing? Like... But...
charlie: Carter Bryant, is that, does he get one?
Elias Hansen: He's had a tough start to the season.
charlie: Peace.
Elias Hansen: like ah you know Basically, my point is not only is it speed up and down the floor, but it's just like...
charlie: Right. oh Yeah.
Elias Hansen: How many ways? these players who come in off the bench can affect the game. And a lot of the players that are coming in off the bench right now, if they're one. strength is not working. They're not.
Elias Hansen: a dynamic enough player and it's not like a knock on them it's just like that's why they're in the second unit they're not dynamic enough to Switch up the offense.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: in a way. Um, and when you have someone like Harper coming off the bench,
charlie: Definitely.
Elias Hansen: um when you have someone like paired with Harper. Um... Like Julian Champagny, I mean, obviously it's still coming off the bench, but when he's paired with Harper, you just get a little bit more optionality.
Elias Hansen: If the. first like the I'm thinking like a football, like the first read isn't there. If you're a quarterback like.
charlie: oh
Elias Hansen: Let's scan the receivers. Let's see the other routes. What are we going to make? Like this second unit is. tracking this first read. And. That's what they're working with right now. Um,
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: It comes with time.
charlie: Yep.
Elias Hansen: like I think players will get more comfortable with their roles and understand a little bit more the different ways that can impact the game. But right now, I think you're absolutely right.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: like That is... an issue. Even though like these players sound. good Um, it doesn't quite mesh
charlie: Yeah. And and we'll we'll figure it out. for sure it'll get better and then we'll figure out if we need to change it or not but um But yeah, I mean, even just like, I mean, every single game now, it's the starting five, the three and a half guards.
charlie: And then like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Two minutes into the game, Fox is out.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: and jim penny's in and then it's like i feel like even that is like like it gets confusing because we have these like this like burst like absolute like two minutes of pure like speed and pace and like, just like go as fast as you.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: possibly can. And it's like, all right, no. And then we like. we're switching things up and then you know vic obviously has this very like specific minutes each quarter, each half, each game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But yeah, I think, I mean, well, I'm excited to see. the players figure that out and also the the coaching staff. you know figure things out with that but um
Elias Hansen: Yeah. I'd one.
charlie: Something to note.
Elias Hansen: Go go go.
charlie: Well, I was just going to say. um Kind of a ah leading. topic into the the cornet Talk we're seeing all online
Elias Hansen: I think we're on the same. Yeah, we're on the, where I was exactly what I was thinking.
charlie: Right now, if you want to. If you want to talk about that, yeah.
Elias Hansen: Well, I worry that Cornette's turning into Zach Collins a little bit.
charlie: Wow.
Elias Hansen: um I think that's probably a little extreme. But... What we got to see, which I think is what you're referencing. in the Kings game with some terrace read minutes and more terrace read minutes.
charlie: h
Elias Hansen: Um, And man. He does his job well. Um, while Cornette is sometimes an absolute butterfingers golly on the glass like he's big in there but he just can't grab that damn ball and tip it in Karis Reid. Looks.
Elias Hansen: Patient. He is great at boxing out. He tracks the ball. on a miss. um really impressive. Like and these cornet minutes, I i have to pull up the um the stat that i took a screenshot of but That's a little concerning. So right now.
Elias Hansen: with Victor on. We have a 118 .4 offensive rating and a 98 .6. defensive rating and when victor is off and cornet is on small sample size of course but A 107 .9 offensive rating. That's about an 11 point drop and 128 .9 defensive rating. That's about a 30%.
Elias Hansen: uh swing so overall that's we have a 19 .8 plus that rating. When. luke Luke is off the floor. Vic is on the floor.
Elias Hansen: And when Vic is off and Luke is on. We have a negative 21 net rating. That is a. nearly 41 points per 100 possessions swing.
Elias Hansen: um In plus minus. when those two Come in and out.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: so That's not going to cut it. that That is not going to work. um
charlie: And it was I mean, it was like that last year, too.
Elias Hansen: I think. Yeah. But it wasn't like that before the playoffs.
charlie: but
Elias Hansen: I feel like it it got heightened.
charlie: That's true. I'm thinking playoffs. Yeah, I'm thinking playoffs
Elias Hansen: um But I think it ties into this like lineup and rotation conversation because I don't think Cornette is necessarily out there.
charlie: m
Elias Hansen: With the like like because it's a small sample size like it's gonna be skewed by the players. He's typically on the floor with
charlie: he
Elias Hansen: um And I don't think he necessarily is like. being trotted out there with the best offensive weapons. But. That said... My...
Elias Hansen: I'll never claim to know more than a coach. but I'd really love to see Terrace read more. ah he's He's played in some... meaningless minutes. so that's of course important to like put an asterisk by as well but Man, he looked good.
charlie: He looked good. He looked eager. He looked like he knows. I mean, it's just so apparent that we lack. rebounding Like at almost any given point in the game.
charlie: And that's that's normally how... you know, teams like... the knicks have got taken advantage of us you know if you have someone like a mitchell robinson or like you know yeah rockets you know if you just have
Elias Hansen: Rockets.
charlie: these really Big. you know, guys on the other team that can. kind of bully their way over our entire lineup. you know it's It really makes it valuable to have someone like Terrace Reed.
charlie: who can get boards and i and i think that's like that's
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: That is a problem that like. It's very obvious for every Spurs fan can see and like to see. a potential solution or a potential step in the right direction i get why everyone's Everyone's calling for it.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. I, Terrace Reed, like. He will play more.
charlie: Mm.
Elias Hansen: I don't think it's like we have to keep hoping that we get to... He's going to get minutes. And as the season goes on, like if he is proving more effective in those minutes.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: He's going to take minutes from Cornette. Um...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: so So it's something to keep an eye on.
charlie: And. And that would be like, that's not the worst thing in the world to be able to like.
Elias Hansen: as the
charlie: It's not even like it could be like taking minutes from Cornette, which technically it is, but like, you know. just adding someone a third person in that rotation. And like a third person that can be in combination with the others, relief for others.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Like I just, I think it's. it would be really helpful to to be able to have that luxury.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, I think there's I think there's um circumstances too. like We saw it a little bit last year, but like the French vanilla lineup, if if a team like the Thunder is going to be... like putting out.
Elias Hansen: uh a dem a day mora
charlie: Adai Mara.
Elias Hansen: Sorry. Ade Mara. Yeah. Ade Mara and Chet. Like there are there may be certain teams with certain matchups where like it makes sense to have one be at the four.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Um... And in that circumstance, like it's very helpful to have a terrorist read. um who's like a Like. kind of neck and neck possibly with that. next position. But I think this is a good transition into this most recent game, the jazz game, because the Cornets minutes.
charlie: maybe
Elias Hansen: were kind of glaring.
charlie: Hmm.
Elias Hansen: In this jazz game, there were definitely a point of comparison. Um. I'd say more... The Jazz win and the Mavs win were both ugly wins.
Elias Hansen: But. I would say the Jazz one was a good win. Like, i I am completely fine with how it played out.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: It was the first back to back. of the season I think those are like, those are pretty tough, regardless of like the timing of the games like a back to back is always going to be a tough night And. i mean man i don't know what you thought but It.
Elias Hansen: I thought it showed like that. We looked lethargic. Um. pretty flat. especially as the game went on ah when we were getting to overtime man like The first.
Elias Hansen: whatever six possessions from both for three of for both teams or it's just miss miss miss miss
charlie: Yeah, it was crazy
Elias Hansen: It was like. These teams are tired. um so Good good gutsy win.
charlie: Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I think. um I think it was... i mean there's a few different players of the game you can talk about obviously i think the most The one that's gotten the most.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: attention, rightfully so, Devin Vassell.
Elias Hansen: Yes, absolutely.
charlie: you know, just like are honestly our most consistent player. Like.
Elias Hansen: That little curl screen curl screen to get to like the free throw line extended.
charlie: Yeah. Off one, yeah. yeah
Elias Hansen: fade away it's beautiful it's like i see that is one of the few shots and when they do it out of a out of bounds play when he curls towards the baseline those are like the two
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: plays or two shots where I'm like, that's going in.
charlie: Yeah. And then and we ran it three times in a row, four times in a row.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And it it just like, it creates so much. Like I don't know it creates so much like so many different opportunities because Devon's such a great shooter from that position that people have to jump and when they realize they have to jump, you know, you have other options in the paint.
charlie: Or at 1B. Anyway, um he was great. he essentially close the game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah, I thought he said I broke down Devin saved the game like.
charlie: um
charlie: He did.
Elias Hansen: ah that he when like When Steph shoots a three and before it goes in, I'm like, oh, it's a bad shot.
charlie: um
Elias Hansen: When Devin does the curl screen, it does a like crazy difficult fadeaway. I'm always like, that's a great shot. Love it.
charlie: That was, it was, it was great. It was amazing.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I think also um Keldon Johnson. kind of It really stuck out to me, especially like kind of. as Later into the game, people are getting tired.
charlie: And when the Spurs really. didn't have anything at certain points or felt a little flat. Like he was the spark that just, you know, diving on the floor, getting the ball.
charlie: like getting tough buckets you know getting a weird like finger roll thing i've never seen him do
Elias Hansen: Yeah. yeah
charlie: for That was pretty sick.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Um... But I think he really was like a spark that we needed. out of at the times that we needed him um And then I'll also say I texted you this right when it happened, but...
charlie: the Very end of the game. It's like a two possession game already Darren Fox. Pokes the ball away. And you just see him sprint as fast as you can.
charlie: Faster than he did in the finals.
charlie: I want to see those clips side by side and see the difference.
Elias Hansen: Ha ha.
charlie: Because he was noticeably like incredibly fast.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: And it's like. and he did that and yeah i said he and then he went and he didn't lit up, he dunked it. And he he dunked it with the might of every single, you know.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: hate comment he's received for the past six months.
Elias Hansen: See you guys. Yes.
charlie: about you know, what he should have done in the finals. and um I think one... Hopefully like that maybe exonerates. yeah maybe he was more injured than people give him credit for
Elias Hansen: Exactly. I was going to say that.
charlie: Um.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But two, it was like... oh my god like what a great thing for a spurs fan to see like this the same exact situation happened and like we the right thing happened.
charlie: like The right decisions were made.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. The good guys won. Yeah.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. I think the other thing that stuck out to me in this game that looked great. I think we should, we should know too, like. We're going to see the Jazz again. And... Also, I mean. Chianti George. Like.
Elias Hansen: and he was playing like an all -star he looked absolutely incredible he's light It was really impressive to watch.
charlie: It was crazy.
Elias Hansen: Still. The jabs were very depleted. um No Jaron Jackson Jr., no Larry Markkinen.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um they They had a lot of firepower out. um so credit to them they still Bye. played a great game but the other thing i wanted to mention is the the castle wemby two -man game like That game.
Elias Hansen: It. it became very clear that like of any of the guards There was that one incredible where Kelton Johnson just like threw it backwards and like when we dunked it.
charlie: yeah Like Crazy.
Elias Hansen: He's up there somewhere. But of any of the guards that Wemby is playing with, like it it's pretty clear that... He has the best chemistry. ah Best like lob and pick and roll. uh, chemistry with castle.
charlie: Yeah. Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: Like there were just so many fantastic. plays where like Yes, he's tall. And so he's kind of always up there, but you know, teams know that that's like the easiest shot that we can get. So they're, they're, they're, if, if it seems possible, they're going to foul, they're going to bump, they're going to like seal, they're going to do whatever they can to make that not possible. Castle seems like the one guard that is like getting that ball to the right spot before the defense has time.
Elias Hansen: to adjust now once again small sample size like you know
charlie: Totally.
Elias Hansen: while We're going to see lots of different defenses, lots of more.
charlie: Mm -hmm.
Elias Hansen: Adept defenses, but In this game, it was like... Okay. Like, he he, they get it. Those two together, they look good.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: And i I didn't dig into like the stats of it, but I'd be interested to see like. how that shows up in the the plus minus numbers of those two there may not be enough minutes but those two guys together
charlie: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. It's like It's kind of the thing that everyone's always saying. like Maybe pass it to the dude that's eight feet tall.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: and it's But it really, you can, there is a level of.
Elias Hansen: Right. Right.
charlie: you know. Just like... this ability to to seek those things out that specifically Castle has. And even, you know, Wemby throwing hemlobs too in certain... scenarios or you know faking it passing it back to him
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: Um... But yeah, it is is good that you mentioned that they were an undermanned team. Um, Which kind of is... is the trend right now. Um...
Elias Hansen: It is it hits the trend. Yeah, that's a really good...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: set well the Okay, the one thing I do want to mention... Well, like everybody I'm sure if you're listening to this you watch the game but like That was a shot clock violation. And that was.
charlie: oh
Elias Hansen: why there was no timeout called. Like, I think there was even even Mitch's postgame. He was like That's on me. I should have called a timeout. um we would have gotten like ah would have gotten a better shot but That was a shot clock violation every time.
Elias Hansen: i you know, that was really frustrating. that was that was like
charlie: And there you can see the players looking around for it too. It was crazy.
Elias Hansen: Yeah. yeah Yeah. But. yes good segue into our other stuff section. Um, Man. Like. Everybody is injured. Everybody.
Elias Hansen: So we've got... ah J -Dub, Jalen Williams, Kaysen Wallace, Alex Caruso, Anthony Edwards. Tyrese Halliburton. AJ Devonsa made his debut.
Elias Hansen: Um. Who else? Obviously, Jaron Jackson Jr.
charlie: Anthony Davis.
Elias Hansen: Larry Markin and Anthony Davis. It is like.
charlie: um
Elias Hansen: it's it's good Someone's going to get injured on the Spurs at some point in the season, sorry to tell you. Well, actually, Tobias Harris is already out. but um
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: It happens to every team, but... particularly this season. that j -dub entry was absolutely awful i was watching that game live that was disgusting As a diehard Spurs fan, I just want to say.
Elias Hansen: No single part of me. Not even like the... the Devil on my shoulder. was like, yes. Like, no. No. Also, i' credit to the Thunder, I didn't even have time to think that because they're so good that they could beat us without them.
Elias Hansen: So that doesn't even really matter. But that was...
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: an awful injury like That sucks. That's probably the worst injury week. of like any team I can remember to lose Cason Wallace and to lose Alex Caruso. Um...
Elias Hansen: they're super it'll be interesting to see like what happens next with this team, but
charlie: horrible
Elias Hansen: The Spurs play the Timberwolves on Halloween night. That's our next game. And so we will be facing the Timberwolves without.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Anthony. Edwards. um
charlie: a
Elias Hansen: They... And the Timberwolves are still. Plenty good. They still have LaMelo Ball. um they almost survived uh Steph Curry Masterclass.
Elias Hansen: last night um So it'll be an interesting game, but... I'm i'm i'm losing i'm losing the... the lead or whatever Yes, the injuries are absolutely.
Elias Hansen: Insane. Can't bear it right now and it sucks.
charlie: the Yeah, the Anthony Edwards injury too is like... is just not Not, I guess, as... As bad as J -Dub, but... pretty Pretty serious. I mean, I saw...
charlie: like an insider.
Elias Hansen: Oh, Kawhi Leonard. Well, that one's kind of obvious.
charlie: Kawhi Leonard.
Elias Hansen: but
charlie: Halliburton, too. I don't know if you already said that
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: um But like. The Anthony Edwards, I don't know how much you read into it. It's like ah they're comparing it to a Kawhi or Joel Embiid situation. to where it's gonna require surgery.
Elias Hansen: Oh really?
charlie: Every season. that he doesn't decide to get like the big surgery, which will. Take him out for a whole year.
Elias Hansen: Wow. Interesting.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I didn't see that.
charlie: It's like it's like the same like like
Elias Hansen: Dang that sucks
charlie: knee -swelling situation that you know kind of Guts. Joel Embiid and Kawhi Leonard is such a bad rap.
Elias Hansen: Interesting. Yeah.
charlie: Um... But yeah, so just...
Elias Hansen: Hmm.
charlie: Very... Very difficult time in the league, and a lot of people have... speculations about the shoes, about...
Elias Hansen: I saw that yeah.
charlie: but how much how many steroids were they actually taking back in the days to prevent this like Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Listen, I'm going to put all the rumors to bed right now. It's not the shoes. It's not the steroids. It's playing 82 games at like the fastest pace any athlete has ever played and doing it.
Elias Hansen: for every season Like. I don't think it's a mystery. It sucks because it's a problem that's never going to get solved because there's too much money in playing that many games and. Like every NBA fan who would be listening to this, like...
Elias Hansen: i would be upset if there were fewer games like i won as many games as possible
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: But. Like. The strain on these players' bodies is just absolutely... like i was This just popped into my head of like... just like a random Keontae George basket during the jazz game. And it was like a closeup of him landing and then running back and like seeing kind of his heel drop bouncing after like the wear and tear on these players is, is.
Elias Hansen: Incredible. um Yeah. it sucks but it's it's like it's going to be part of the game and i would like to see some serious load management from the spurs i don't think anyone for a while there was a big blowback on the originators of load management the spurs um But let's bring it back.
Elias Hansen: because I don't need to see when be playing in the second half of that Kings game.
charlie: Yeah. This.
Elias Hansen: And I'm fine. If we only end up winning by five or six.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: Um...
charlie: Yeah, it's it's the it's the pace for sure.
Elias Hansen: I don't know
charlie: It's like that is it's.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: you know Also, All the closeouts on three -point shots. you know.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: It's, it's just. It's also I feel like It's pretty It feels almost like a parent that like. many different teams. Like did not do what they were supposed to do or players.
charlie: like leading into the season because like all of this happening right now in the beginning of the season
Elias Hansen: Yeah. Jalen Dern.
charlie: Like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: yeah exactly it just it feels like you know These players need extra care extra training extra you know medical attention to be able to jump back into the wear and tear of an entire and NBA season or even.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: much less a week.
Elias Hansen: Yep. Yeah. Well, i have I have a couple too quick. kind of non -basketball things and then we can talk about the next games quickly unless and you have anything else about these last four
charlie: No, I think that was it for me.
Elias Hansen: Okay. um the two notes i have sunday night spurs fans when beyond 60 minutes I can't wait.
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: Um, I think it's going to be awesome i'm sure he's gonna like say some incredible quotes that people are gonna be like oh he's so he's such a poser
charlie: They're going to hate it.
Elias Hansen: yeah um but i think it's gonna be fantastic that'll be cool and then also like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I don't know, interesting news for... people who are living in San Antonio and they listen to this. um there's some ah developments around project marvel it sounds like a lot of the budget has been slashed a lot for the project.
Elias Hansen: the um Timeline maybe slowed. the existence of a missions san antonio missions ballpark maybe in question too Just something to keep an eye on um if you're in the San Antonio area and you've been tapped into like this arena news.
Elias Hansen: um there there's some There are changes in the... a proposed budget and how much would be spent on what like i think Like the the Alamo Dome renovations got slashed. The land bridge got changed to like. a pedestrian bridge.
Elias Hansen: There's no set groundbreaking now. I don't know. I was just like, okay. Just, you know. Important to take note of, I guess. if if you're if you're she
charlie: the to watch I have not heard that that. That news has not made it to Brooklyn.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: so
Elias Hansen: Yeah, the local...
charlie: was
Elias Hansen: Like Spurs clickbait Twitter got me on that one, but. Figured it was worth reporting.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: But anyways, looking ahead. So, like I said, we got... ah Timberwolves on Saturday. Monday is the Mavs again, I think. And then Wednesday.
Elias Hansen: is the jazz again. um To note for for games coming after that too, Spurs have a pretty soft schedule. here for a while which seems like it'll be a good thing the way this team has started um So it should be a good opportunity to stack some wins. I think you know we've seen the Mavs.
Elias Hansen: Cooper Flagg just had an incredible night and beat the Thunder pretty much single -handedly. Um, We didn't get to see him When we played the Mavs. So that'll be something to note. And then the Jazz may have a little bit more firepower. They still gave us a run for our money.
Elias Hansen: um So, These are going to be an interesting few games. The Timberwolves one was obviously the marquee before. ant is out i think it'll still be a good game but it is at home which is helpful.
Elias Hansen: But how are you how are you feeling about the next?
charlie: yeah
Elias Hansen: We'll stick with the next three.
charlie: You know
Elias Hansen: cautiously optimistic, optimistic, scared.
charlie: I think it's we got some good momentum, and I think the the players definitely feel definitely feel that as well. I would not count out an injured. Timberwolves team.
charlie: You know, this is a team that took.
Elias Hansen: Yep. Agreed.
charlie: up to six games last year. With an injured squad.
Elias Hansen: Yep.
charlie: like It was like.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: We're the missing, you know. Again, it's it's changed up. No Nas read, I feel like will be big for us personally.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: but um I mean, Anthony Edwards is such a phenomenal player. That's obviously going to be a gap for them. but I'll be interested to see... how LaMelo takes charge of the team.
charlie: Without ants.
Elias Hansen: yeah I just like i like almost chuckle just hearing that guy's name.
charlie: That's... i um
Elias Hansen: like it He's just so hilarious to watch. It's ridiculous.
charlie: It's great. Have you seen?
Elias Hansen: it's like every
charlie: Like the edits already of him and Rudy like beefing.
Elias Hansen: No, I haven't.
charlie: Bye. they're like yelling at each other like on the sidelines and stuff already and like rudy said in an interview that yeah like i i think you should really slow down his game
Elias Hansen: Oh God.
Elias Hansen: Oh man.
charlie: and ah it's Yeah, so I think I don't, I'm...
Elias Hansen: um Boy, trouble in paradise.
charlie: I was very optimistic going into my last predictions and I think
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I don't feel like we have. figured out our big glaring problems yet i think we are making steps in the right direction, but I don't think we're we're past. letting one slip. on Halloween.
charlie: um
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But I would... Oop. Cautiously. Like... Bye. Think. We should. When? I think we should.
Elias Hansen: Okay.
charlie: well
Elias Hansen: Okay. Okay.
charlie: What about you?
Elias Hansen: All right, so... i I think, I think. We should win the Halloween game. I think we'll be at home.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: I think we've got some good reps. We got a little bit of rest. We had two nights off.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: I don't really see any reason why. We can't. Um, Close that game out.
charlie: Mm hmm.
Elias Hansen: I think, you know, like, yeah yes, yes. It's still going to be a good team, but... I think that. We can match up well. um With.
Elias Hansen: with the Timberwolves there. Flamelo just kind of never scares me maybe he should but he's just so unserious that i just like
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: He never never freaks me out that much. um
charlie: m
Elias Hansen: So I agree with you. i' I think I'm a little bit less cautiously optimistic. I think this one a little bit more. i'm expecting us to win.
charlie: h
Elias Hansen: with that much of a gap. in their offense. without Anthony Edwards. What about, okay, let's move on to... Next one is... Mavs. We got Mavs and then...
charlie: Next one, I see it's Utah then Mavs, actually.
Elias Hansen: Mavs and Jazz Oh, Utah, then Mavs. Okay.
charlie: Yeah. but um I mean, if if Cooper Flagg is playing. Um... when we play the Mavs that'll definitely be a more interesting and exciting game.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: um I mean, these are both teams, we like you said, we've already played, but we played them undermanned. and it was a close game you know At least for the majority of the game was close.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: I feel like... I'm looking at the schedule that we're gonna drop one of these. You know what I mean?
Elias Hansen: Okay.
charlie: It's it's gonna be Timberwolves, Mavs or Utah.
Elias Hansen: Okay.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: That is what like my my brain tells me. My heart says we're going to. We're going to. carry this momentum from beating the Timberwolves on Halloween and go on a little nice winning streak until we face like Phoenix.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: But...
Elias Hansen: Okay. Yeah.
charlie: Dylan Brooks, the 1B stopper.
Elias Hansen: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um I'm going to be more optimistic than you, and we'll i will'llll we'll stay at the different, for you know.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: prediction. I'm going to, I'm going to go three and O in these games. ah We're at home for all three.
charlie: m
Elias Hansen: which At home for all three and no back -to -backs.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: There'll be some good reps. Like we said, we got some good reps in. Um... I think that. I think that. the um The Mavs game will be close.
Elias Hansen: I think the math's like... might be pretty good and then the jazz depending on how much i mean i said from the beginning like i think the jazz might be pretty good if they have all of their all of their uh weapons.
Elias Hansen: So depending on the lineup for that night too, that could be a difficult one. But I think, I think this first can, I think this first can get, that would be what six in a row. if we win these next three games.
charlie: Yeah. It'd be great.
Elias Hansen: um i think we could get six in a row i think we could we could flip the flip the 0 and 2 to 6 and 2. And it can be done.
charlie: That would be a great place to be in.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: You know, in this freaking Western conference that just kind of got turned on its head.
Elias Hansen: It would. yeah Yeah.
charlie: you know Um, I'm curious to see how the Thunder do.
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: how the Timberwolves do. The Rockets. seem to, you know... be cruising right now, so it's gonna be
Elias Hansen: Yeah.
charlie: It's a good time to stock wins while we should be stocking wins.
Elias Hansen: Yes. Yes, it's a good time to say exactly. This is the time to do it. um So. Everybody, make sure you stretch. before you go down the stairs.
Elias Hansen: um You know, don't take your limberness for granted.
charlie: Yeah.
Elias Hansen: um Stack wins. While you can. Hopefully the Spurs will do the same. And we'll talk to you all. Probably Thursday night because we're playing Wednesday night. and run through those games, talk about...
Elias Hansen: the next week ahead.
charlie: Sounds good.
Elias Hansen: Cool. Alright. Talk to y 'all soon.
charlie: Alright.
