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Episode 27: GTWS Final Preview, Lara Hamilton 6th at World Cup Final VK, and Heat Training
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Welcome to Episode 27 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This week’s episode is hosted by Sim Brick, Brodie Nankervis, and Vlad Ixel and talks through everything from heat training, to the upcoming GTWS final with a few Aussies in action, to some awesome aussie trail results!
Start - 25:30 :- Training Chat
This weeks training chat starts with a 10 minute discussion of heat training with all three hosts giving their past/current experience with it, before hearing about Vlad’s vert for the week, Brodies racing decisions for South Korea, and Sim’s build into the GTWS Final
25:30 - 53:45 :- GTWS Final / GTNS Final Preview!
The Golden Trail World Series Final is this week, with 4 races to follow along! Female Prologue Thursday, Male Prologue Friday, Female Main Race Saturday and Male Sunday. We give a rundown of the main contenders in the World Series, how the National Series Final works, who is racing for Aus in the National Series and a discussion on the flower style of course. This is definitely one to follow along and get behind our Aussie team!
53:45 - 1:13:50 :- Race Results
We then cover a few Aussie races that went down over the weekend:
Pemby Trail Fest WA: https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=369240
Mount Bold South Aus Trail Running Championships: https://eventstrategies.racetecresults.com/results.aspx?CId=90&RId=559
Heysen 105 Trail Ultramarathon - SA: https://my.raceresult.com/312922/
Hume and Hovell Ultramarathon (aus 100mile championships): https://www.racetecresults.com/results.aspx?CId=16295&RId=228&EId=6
And a HUGE international result for Lara Hamilton coming 6th at the Mountain Running World Cup VK Final: https://www.endu.net/en/events/kilometro-verticale-lagunc-val-bregaglia-trail/results/2024
1:13:50 - End : What’s coming up
Lastly, we do a quick run through of the upcoming trail races around the country and what is coming up for us.
Thanks for tuning in to Peak Pursuits! Connect with us on Instagram @peakpursuits.pod to share your thoughts, questions, and your own trail stories. Until next time, keep hitting the trails and chasing those peak pursuits!
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Transcript
00:00:07
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 27 of the Peak Pursuits podcast. My name is Simone Brick coming to you from Italy and I am joined by Brody, who I didn't ask Brody, where are you now? I'm also in Italy. I'm in a small town down in Sicily called Ragusa.
00:00:28
Speaker
Nice. Cool. Okay. We're in the same country. Good to know. And ah Vlad, who is still back in Australia, but not for much longer. Vlad. Yeah, two more days and a fly out to South Korea. So yeah, pretty excited about that trip.
00:00:42
Speaker
Nice. Very nice. so Cool. Well, speaking of that trip, I've just saw Sarah has made it over. She found the vegan kitchen that I think was discussed in the episode. She's already sent pictures of that through. um But how are we feeling for South Korea for the trip over Vlad?
00:00:59
Speaker
Yeah, I feel good. Had some good training. I think that, yeah, I just listened to today's episode, um Trail to South Korea with with with the guys and um yeah, I could definitely kind of re relate a bit with the HIIT training. I've been kind of did a little bit of HIIT training two years ago. um So before Pike's Peak, was it 2022 when I met you, Sim?
00:01:25
Speaker
I did a bit of heat training where I would just wear like two jumpers in the gym, put the treadmill on 15% incline and run up for an hour. And then so I did that like ah maybe like 10 sessions for like three or four weeks in the lead up to the race. I didn't have a good race probably because of the altitude.
00:01:47
Speaker
Well, most likely because of the altitude. And then I was like, I'm not sure about this heat training, but then obviously Killian has been putting all his training. Um, everybody in the tour, the fronts does heat training right now. Um, yeah, I mean, Killian has been doing three to four hits, heat sessions a week in the lead up to, um, Sierra's and now, um, so I've, yeah, last five weeks since I got back to Australia, I've been kind of slowly building up my HIIT training, which pretty much had long pants, four layers and 40 to 50 minute runs or cycles and been going really well. Kind of doing six sessions a week was getting a bit hard um and I felt like
00:02:35
Speaker
So two days ago I kind of was supposed to do my last one and I've been keeping an eye on my heart rate and this last uphill running back home. It was a warm day in Perth as well so it's probably like 20 degrees outside, um four layers, long winter pants.
00:02:53
Speaker
And my heart rate just jumped to 160, so I felt like, wow, am I might be overdoing it a little bit. um That was in the morning. Why does it not surprise me that you saw four to five on a lot of other people's and you decided that six was a good idea?
00:03:05
Speaker
No, so I've been kind of reading a little bit about obviously the science and how some of the two of the front striders have been doing it. So there's a few protocols. There's obviously the five weeks, 50 minutes, five times a week with kind of two days off. But then there was also one which was six days, 40 minutes, six times a week, 40 minutes for two weeks, um which is a bit little bit more intense. But yeah, I don't know. I kind of felt really good about it for the first four weeks when I was doing four a week. And then the last two weeks going to six definitely felt a bit harder. And then yeah I was about to do my like session in the afternoon and my heart rate was still fairly high.
00:03:48
Speaker
during the key session, like three times 3K threshold. And I was like, yeah, probably just overdone it a little bit with the heat training. But I think we're still two weeks to the race. I can still hopefully recover, even though like today's run last kind of long run, my heart rate was a little bit higher than usual. So yeah, I feel like this, yeah, I guess the travel, like when I travel over and have few kind of easier days, hopefully everything kind of settles in. But if you had much experience with heat training,
00:04:18
Speaker
Yeah, I've done quite a bit of it. And and I know it's very much um individual for how much you can handle and what is overdoing it. And it's one that is quite like you've got very much diminishing returns and can be quite harmful if you do overdo it or do it wrong. Like you're not rehydrating enough. So I was very pedantic about the whole um before and after it will wait. um Before and after heat sessions, taking my weight and drinking one and a half times what I'd lost within the first hour, like making sure that I was doing it all properly. Obviously, Vlad, you've got Bix, you've got all the hydration that you can bloody get. So you've got no excuse for dehydrating yourself in this process.
00:05:05
Speaker
um But yeah, like I actually really like it. I much prefer doing say a heated room on a treadmill than wearing more clothes. um Wearing more clothes I just find horrible. um But I also prefer or I like doing say a 10 to 12 day adaptation period and not doing it um any longer than that. So even if I was to do 10 to 12 days early on in a block, I would then also um take a break, train as normal, and do 10 to 12 days leading into a race. um Because I think there's a there's a pretty good 10-day heat adaptation protocol um that shows good results for just adapting your body to the heat and sweat.
00:05:49
Speaker
So there's adaptation and there's also like the benefit of like, um, heat training as well. Um, yeah yeah with like black plasma and all that. So yeah, I think that's, that's where like adaptation, you don't require as much time. Um, we're like to get some, like, I guess altitude benefits of it. That's when you need it. You need to do it for like four or five weeks to get those kind of benefits.
00:06:14
Speaker
yeah I did run with like a thermometer the first few times to make sure that I'm like around 38 and a half degrees body temperature so I kind of stop kind of see my temperature with that I'm around that but yeah I think like probably six times a week is a little bit too much and also like I've been doing it on the trails so some would be on the bike so and some would be on the trails the thing with the trails is when you go up you're like really overheating and then when you go down It's kind of like not the same. So I think if I am, probably if I'll try it again sometime next year.
00:06:50
Speaker
I would rather test it out on a treadmill um or only on the bike and see how that feels. Wait a minute. You'll be rocking one of the core senses that all the triathletes have. They just wear them. yeah ah There's a few other ways with like those internal peels and everything. I know. Yeah, but the core senses they've all got just for like every single training run.
00:07:15
Speaker
I watch far too many triathlon YouTube videos. No, me too. But like I don't know. like I think the technology is... I mean, it's hard to say what your core body temperature by seeing the skin temperature, if that makes sense. And I feel like yeah maybe the technology is not 100% there yet um and it will take a little bit of time. And I'm sure like Garmin and Corus are probably trying to integrate that stuff to their watch as well. So it might be... um in our watches in the next few years as well. But yeah, I think it's an interesting kind of ah area because...
00:07:51
Speaker
Obviously, like you know if you can't go to altitude and training camps, this is like an maybe an easier way of like boosting 1% or 2% in your performance. But yeah, it's definitely not fun. And I guess like what they were saying with the washing, yeah like especially when I wear like free jumpers, like my wife is not really happy with all that amount of washing. When you do it six times a week, she's like, that machine is full again with all your sweaty clothes.
00:08:19
Speaker
Yeah, I'll probably try it again. i'll I'll see. I'll probably try it again sometime next year. Yeah, nice. What about you, Brody? Have you ever done heat training slash is it warm where you are? Cause it's definitely not warm where I am in Italy. Yeah, it's actually quite still quite warm where I am. And it has been since I left Finland, um, still like 30 degrees or high twenties up to 30. Um, nice. So yeah, I haven't done any specific heat training because, um,
00:08:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think I'm at a temperature where I'm getting a little bit of discomfort and I'm sort of running in some running in some conditions that are like I'm not always running at the perfect time because I'm also traveling around. So I'm just sort of leaning into that a little bit. The other day I did yeah did my longer run. I started at like 10 or something. So I definitely was in a good amount of heat. But yeah, no, I haven't really done it in the past. It's something that I would consider doing.
00:09:15
Speaker
um But I think I would want to do it towards a race the first time, not just willy-nilly. I guess we get a bit of heat training over summer, just training normally at home. Yeah, yep. For sure. Well, did you want to run us through what your key training was for the last week and your thoughts about which race you're doing at Korea? Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, so last, ah I think it was last Sunday I did, like,
00:09:41
Speaker
That was when I went up Aetna, so I'd done five days of running last week. I had a couple of days off after the Orange hearing, so this day i tried to this week tried to get back into a more normal week of training. um I did just an easy run on Monday and then on Tuesday.
00:09:58
Speaker
I wanted to do a bit of a threshold session and I was trying to find somewhere where I was to do it on the flat. But it's quite hilly here in Sicily. um And even on the coast, it's quite hilly. um And where I was looking to do it on ah this beach promenade was just like excessively busy. And I was like, no, I can't can't try and do a threshold session there. It's going to be too hard. so The town that we were staying at had this like nice like castle up on top of this little hill overlooking the city. So I just did like a ah did some reps up there at sort of threshold, but um had to jog back down, so I had a bit of longer rest. So I did three reps. I think there were about 200 metres of climb in a kilometre, so it was about 20%.
00:10:45
Speaker
um So that was good, it was good. The races in Korea are going to be quite steep, so I was happy to do that session on the hill instead. I was thinking of doing four because it was taking me about eight, I think maybe nine, eight, nine minutes, but i my legs started fatiguing out in the third rep and I couldn't even get my heart rate up. So it's a sign that I'm um training the right things, but I've still got a little way to go. So yeah, I was pretty happy with that one. um nice and they And then, yeah, I guess the big run, I had another easy day on Wednesday and and then the big run for the week was on Thursday. I wanted to use it as a little bit of a test to see where I'm currently at in terms of how long I can run for. So I did a kind of route.
00:11:35
Speaker
um through this sort of coastal national park. um I was aiming to do three hours and try and get as much climb as I could. It was quite healy. I ended up doing three hours 20 And I covered, I think it was about 30K, a bit over 30K with 1,450 meters of climb or something like that. So I got a bit of climbing and I did it. Yeah, I started that one at like 10, so I was running.
00:12:06
Speaker
um wasn't that probably yeah It was probably getting getting to the hottest part of the day by the end. so um It's a good chance to sort of try a bit of a racy simulation. I wasn't pushing at race pace because I haven't run that distance for a while, but um with the nutrition and everything like that, it was good to try and practice all that. But yeah, after I ran that,
00:12:31
Speaker
I had decided that the shorter racing career would probably be a better option for me because I started to feel started to feel a bit cooked about two and a half hours in. So I've opted to do the sky racing career instead of the short trail. um So the sky races. That's 26k? Yeah. So it's 26k with 2,000 500 meters of climb. So it's literally like 20% up or down there. That's the average. So it's yeah it looks to me that it'll be somewhat more of a hiking race than a running race in parts. But I'm hoping it should be a bit shorter time-wise. I think that the short trail, which is 40k with 2,700. So um I think maybe we're looking at around
00:13:22
Speaker
three, three and a half hours potentially. not I'm not exactly sure what it'll be on race day. um yeah ah yeah and I use that as a build towards, I've been trying to sort of do a 50K for a while and and do it properly. I did Keema in the middle of the year obviously, but that was probably a bit more than a 50K in the end in terms of duration. So I'm entered for GPT in November and I've sort of had my eye on that as one that I ah would really like to try and finish and I think if I did short trail and career I might be biting off a bit more than I can chew so I'll do the shorter racing career and then build towards GPT and then that'll be the end of my season and I'll sort of back off and get ready for next year because the main thing I need to do is train.
00:14:12
Speaker
I haven't i've been too interrupted for the last two years that I need to try and stop stop thinking too much about races. so I think doing the shorter line career, hopefully is a smart choice. We'll see how it goes. I think um illy's Billy's over there at the moment.
00:14:29
Speaker
training for the short trail. He's taken some pictures of the where my course is the same or where he's sort of seen where my course comes in. And I think it's ah it could be quite gnarly and quite steep and technical. um So it it should be a fun one. We'll see how it goes again. Sounds fun. Yeah. Sounds good. it's Nice. Starts with a VK. So I've had some VK practice earlier in this year. So that's a good I know what that feels like at least. Yep. Just then you got another 15 or 20k to go. Yeah. Nice. Love that. Well, no, it sounds good. And to be fair, I do think that is a smart move, um like the backup of ah the long trail and the GPT would be a lot for not having had done many of that distance before. So smart move.
00:15:25
Speaker
I'm going to say. and the And the training I'm doing at the moment I'm covering like since then I've just jogged easy and I thought about doing something a bit harder today but based on how I feel yesterday I'll probably jog again um just recovering from that three hours but I'm um'm covering about eight to nine hours of training in a really good week at the moment and I'd like to see that number up quite a bit higher consistently so that I can race well over these distances so Yeah, the the focus is definitely getting the training back to a good level. Yeah, nice. Very nice. Well, Vlad, you look like you've had just as crazy of a week as always, although maybe a slight taper down, two hours worth, um as we approach the race a little bit, but only five and a half thousand meters from Perth this week. So you want to tell us about it? How'd that go down?
00:16:16
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's still a good week. Probably just, I guess the difference is that long run was just a little bit shorter. I did a bit more cycling this week. um So the last few weeks has been like four hours of cycling this week, almost got to six hours. So still 18 hours of cardio training um for the week, which is pretty similar to like the last four weeks where it's been around 18, 19 hours. um Yeah.
00:16:42
Speaker
Yeah, kind of standard, nothing super hard. Key sessions are very controlled at threshold because I'm doing a little bit more volume right now. um yeah But yeah, overall just trying to build a bit of strength. You know, kind of seeing some of the pictures from the course from Billy that's been sending them over that maybe this is going to be a bit of a quicker race than what I thought it would be. I think like looking at the profile and some of the pictures on Strava with all the stairs and the rocks, I thought this race might be closer to five hours when now I'm thinking it's probably like a four hour race.
00:17:18
Speaker
um for the wind. So yeah, probably, I don't know, maybe I should have been doing a little bit more faster stuff, um rather than kind of trying to build that long distance strength, but yeah. ah But hills are speed in disguise. It's fine.
00:17:35
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, it's hard to say. I feel like yeah it's hard to say till I see the course obviously from the pictures and you know it does look a bit quicker and probably I thought there might be a bit more stairs where I think he was saying there's maybe like three or four k worth of stairs for the whole race where I thought it might be like half of the course is like stairs like most of the races in Hong Kong. um But yeah, still um I mean I'm gonna get a whole week so I get to to the race side like Wednesday so I get like more than a week to see the whole course so I think. Oh nice. Yeah kind of helped me with planning you know the effort and and nutrition and stuff like that and maybe even sho true choice like maybe I'm gonna go with something a bit lighter. Yeah and what's the trip across like from us like is it a big how long is it?
00:18:24
Speaker
Um, Perth to Singapore and then Singapore to Seoul. Okay. And then, yeah, i spend one night in Seoul and then get the train the next day. So it is a big trip. It's a bit out of the way in many ways. Um, yeah, it's, it's a long trip actually. So yeah, I guess the one, the the kind of one night stop of in Seoul would be actually kind of nice. and Yeah. Yeah. Like one big day of travel where we're like half and half.
00:18:52
Speaker
Yeah, good. But yeah, I mean, last time I was in Korea was like 2016 for a race. That was just before the the Winter Olympics. And we kind of ran where the Olympics were going to start or like the opening ceremony was going to start. Did the North Face Korea there, which was, yeah, really fun and beautiful. So I'm excited to go back again to say South Korea, to be honest.
00:19:15
Speaker
nice nice yeah it'll be cool to hear what it's like next week when you're there um for yeah good old travel fun well um my week we're gonna tie in at the end of it with a golden trail preview because this is the week before race week for us over in Wow, technically the race is in Switzerland, so I've been driving back and forth from Italy to Switzerland almost daily at this point, um which is always a novelty, still is a novelty as an Aussie.
00:19:46
Speaker
Uh, so, but yeah, my, I haven't been on in a couple of weeks and my last two weeks have been a lot of fun. Um, a little bit of just figuring everything out as I go jumping in races left, right and center. Um, and a lot of elevation gain, which I will say I was trying to hit a 6,000 meter week last week.
00:20:09
Speaker
And Strava gave me 5,999 at the end of the week, which I was really pissed off about. But that was the week before leading into this one. So it was a pretty big one. It was like 16 hours. um And then This week that just gone which is the week before the race and i didn't even realize i was doing this this is part of the downfall i think of i haven't had a plan ah for training i've kind of just gone with how my body feels day to day.
00:20:39
Speaker
So even though I had a day off on like I had a day off on Monday um which means from what is that Tuesday to Saturday I've only covered 80 K's but I've covered almost like I've covered 4650 meters of it over 80 K's so I didn't even realize I was getting that much in but it's pretty easy.
00:20:59
Speaker
from Italy slash Switzerland to rack up the vert. So happy with it overall, but I had did reach the point where I did the Claro Pizzo race on Sunday, last Sunday. Now that's a race that 9.2 K with 2,500 meters up, all uphill.
00:21:22
Speaker
um Which I entered because it just sounded wild and in the end, they shortened it. We got seven we got about 8K with 2000 meters up, which probably did me a favor in just being a bit shorter. But that's what I was coming off from the Sunday and that went really well. I actually felt great and loved it.
00:21:41
Speaker
So that's why Monday, rest day. But then I've been trying to check the course um and do sessions on the course, and of and also um Greg and Madelena and Meow, yeah so Madelena Floria and Meow, Meow are here as well. So it was really, really freaking cool to have try like um training partners for the week.
00:22:02
Speaker
So I essentially jumped in um a couple of different sessions at different times with Madelena and Meow. ah So my favorite, like my sort of a bigger session for the week in a way was that we ran the prologue course.
00:22:20
Speaker
which is about 7K. But we did it in the style of the prologue, which I've never done a session like this before, but it was a lot of fun because I took off first. um So yeah, for the 7K with about 400, 500 up and down with some very technical sections and some very runnable. But I took off, one minute later, Meow took off and one minute after her, Madelena took off. So I'm running and the first part's all uphill. So I'm hooking it up around a flatter loop and then up this hill just trying not to be caught by Madelena and Meow, which is a great way to make yourself run faster uphill. And then Madelena caught me, but then it meant we all, like I could catch her again on the downhill. So we had, so I had company and then tried to be the first
00:23:10
Speaker
to the bottom of the downhill um before just watching Madelena run off again up the hill to finish because it was an uphill finish, it is an uphill finish for the prologue. But that gave me a lot of confidence having essentially done the race before the race, or one week out from the race for the prologue.
00:23:29
Speaker
and um Yeah, so that was a hard effort without going too crazy because it was a little bit too dark to go um full speed on the downhill because it's very undercover.
00:23:41
Speaker
But yeah, that was my longer session for the week, which was about, I think I did it in about 38 minutes that day. So managed to hold off me out on the last climb. And I was pretty freaking stoked at that point, thankfully. um But it was good. And then my only other session for the week ended up being that my left calf wasn't quite so happy. And so the others were doing another sort of 10K worth of race pace um around the course. But I did all the uphills easy, met them at the summit, and then did the downhill.
00:24:17
Speaker
one of the longer downhills, like 4.5K of downhill hard um before jogging back up because my calf didn't like the uphills. But again, that was a lot of fun. I essentially just sent 4.5Ks of downhill on the course and um had Greg for company, and he's a insanely good downhiller. So following him down ah is good. It means I get a really good feel for the downhill and where the where the course is sort of more technical versus I have to actually really push for the um flatter sections and the ups, obviously. But yeah, my week was a lot of checking the course and in between checking the course, um easy jogging. And yeah, as I said, 80K so far for the week, but I haven't done my Sunday. Today I'll do about 20K flat um to finish off the week.
00:25:07
Speaker
Feeling good for this race, I think I've put a lot of work into the last two weeks. Cause I think even leading up to Claro Pizzo the week before I'd done four sessions, um, of different kinds, everything ranging from some like really fast, um, 500s on the track to one case to one minute efforts. So yeah, chucking everything at it. So I actually feel a lot fitter than when I left the U S which is a nice feeling. Thankfully we got, we're getting there coming around. And do you know who's racing? Do you know how competitive it's going to be? how older I mean, this is obviously it is the final, um but yeah how is everybody there? Like all the pro elite kind of runners are there.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah, everyone will start arriving this week, but the that's where we can do a bit of a preview. So um for the Golden Trail World Series final, um how it works. And I'm going to go through, first of all, the World Series. um And then, obviously, we do have a lot of ah couple Aussies here for part of the National Series, which is a bit different. um But in terms of the World Series, ah everyone is already ranked based on their top three results from the main season.
00:26:18
Speaker
And then in the final, we have the prologue, which is the seven K I was talking about that we do two days before the actual final, which is about 24 K. um The prologue has half points, so 100 points for the win. And the final race has one and a half points or 300 points for the win. So all up is if you win both, you get another 400 points, which is a lot because um normally each race in the season is only 200. So.
00:26:48
Speaker
The current leader is Joyce Njero, who's on 600 from three wins. But um in terms of who's here versus who's not here, it's actually probably the first year I've seen that I think almost most of the top 30 will be here and beyond. um So a big notable losses is Maud Mathis is currently sitting in third, but she's not here and she's not going to be racing.
00:27:15
Speaker
um Then, and this is on the women's side. I'll go through the men's. Then another, like you have to go all the way back down to Sylvia Nordsgar, who just raced Piranyu. She, I believe, is not going to be here either, and she's currently ranked ninth.
00:27:34
Speaker
um And then out of the top 12, I think they're the only two missing that will be missing. And then as you go further back, I think most people in the top 30 are due to be here. On the men's side, I have a feeling like the only people I'm unsure of just because I don't know them very well in the top 12 is whether like is in the eighth to 12th range of is Joey Hadorn coming or Cesare Mayestri, I don't know about those people, but like top eight or top seven are all going to be here. And again, most of the top 30. So for the women's, Joyce, Madelena, Marlin, and Judith, and even Therese Labouf and Meow-Yow, like everyone's pretty close at the end of the day.
00:28:27
Speaker
um although Madelena and Joyce have a bit of a gap on the everyone with 564 and 600 and then Marlon Ossa from Spain is in third ah in on 500. So there can still be a lot of movement um all the way back down because there's a lot of people further back that will be trying to get as many points as possible. um You've even got the likes of Sophia Loughley and Sara Lonzo, who are much further down the field, but I would very much expect to be moving up. And then on the men's, it is ah much it is a bit closer again. You've got Elhuzin Elizui on 600 points from three wins, and then Patrick Kipigno on 588,
00:29:11
Speaker
Philemon Kiriago on 552, and then Remy Bonnet on 520. They're the sort of, what are they calling them? The Fantastic Four, I think, is what they've been calling them on a lot of their videos. um But behind them, people like Daniel Paddis, Bart, Przewalski, I can't do his surname, Polish Bart, Solomon Bart, Roberto de Lorenzis in 7th. But yeah, it'll be interesting because the course at this one is very varied. um There is some flat, fast parts.
00:29:46
Speaker
There is one long uphill, like the longest uphill of the race is 6.7 K with 800 meters up, um right in the middle. But it's also got some very technical downhill, which, and then it ends sort of rolling flat uphill. So it ends fast.
00:30:07
Speaker
So yeah, I think it is a course where people can get gaps rather than what we've seen in the last few, I think, which is that the sort of four um men and a few women are sort of off the front together. I think it'll be much more back and forth, back and forth.
00:30:23
Speaker
What do you think about the flower format that they try to introduce more and more to those Golden Trail races? Personally, for me, I like it um because it really breaks up the course and like it still feels very similar in some ways to running um having like run the whole course in one go.
00:30:43
Speaker
Like you're still constantly on different trails. So it's not as if you're doing the same loop over and over again. Like you're getting different, like every single loop is different. So you're getting different climbs, different descents.
00:30:54
Speaker
but always coming back to that one spot, which for me personally, like I like the idea that you get to, A, get the support, um the aid station quite a number of times, but B, just the fact that mentally you can go, okay, I've got a 4K loop and then I'm back with the crowd and then another 4K loop and I'm back with the crowd. There is a 10, the last loop, loop four is like 12K.
00:31:19
Speaker
So it's quite ah like that'll be a long time out and away from um the spectator zone at the top there. but Yeah, like obviously I don't, I don't think you'd want every single trail race you ever did to be a flower format for sure. But in terms of the spectacle of it and the final, the feel of it being for a final, especially, but, um, yeah, I, I didn't like it when I first saw, like I didn't like the theory of it when I first saw it, but having run, um, I haven't raced this, but having been at NOLI last year when they did it for the final last year.
00:31:57
Speaker
And then having run this course, I think i'm I am actually a fan now. I quite like, yeah, just the way it breaks it up and changes it. But what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, obviously I've never ran one before and I think, I think it'd be actually quite kind of cool to do, um, you know, that kind of flower format. But like you said, you you don't want like every single race to be like that, but you know, once or twice a year, can it be fun? It's, it's definitely a bit different though. That's definitely a lot more like, a lot more like movement through the, through the field, you know, with this format, I feel like there's more overtaking, there's a bit more action. Um, and it's nice having that spot in the middle that,
00:32:36
Speaker
I guess spectators can see runners quite a lot. and yeah i mean I think it's actually going to be interesting. I'm looking forward to to watching the um the live coverage and hopefully do a flower kind of format race myself in the future. But yeah, I wouldn't want to be doing them you know on a regular basis because it could be a little bit too much. But yeah, I'm excited about next weekend.
00:32:59
Speaker
Yeah, it's like that whole on the trail. Sometimes it can be a pretty lonely day out there or like you're away from everyone. You can be struggling up a climb or something and like you're not going to see anyone for ages anyway. No one can see you.
00:33:11
Speaker
But I find the fact that you're running around a loop and you know that soon, other people are going to see where you are compared to where you were last time they saw you. It's almost like this extra mental boost of going, okay, don't get dropped, or you have to catch back up to the people you were with last time because otherwise they're going to know that you've dropped off them. And it's, it changes, for me it does at least, it changes the bit of the mentality of going of going like you've got it. It's so obvious whether you're moving forward or back in the field um to all the spectators because of the flower format. And having been a spectator last year, which it turned into an absolute spectacle, especially on the women's side where you had Madelena and Judith
00:33:55
Speaker
and and Sophia, and you could see the gaps changing every single time they came through. And obviously at the end or towards the end, they had like Judith was chasing Madelena and the gap was just getting smaller and smaller and smaller every time they came through the start finish. um And the course is similar this time in the way that the last time we come through the start finish we actually still have um one and aha a 1.5K loop around to go. So you finish that one big loop when the when the spectators haven't seen everyone in quite a while and a lot can happen. But then you run past the finish line, do another 1.5K and come back. And that 1.5K is quite flat overall. So I see, like, having been a spectator,
00:34:41
Speaker
makes it so much more exciting. It's pretty cool to watch as well. Um, so yeah, I like what they're doing. And, but again, like you, you want, you want both sides, I think in trail because you wouldn't. Yeah, you, I wouldn't want to do this for a very long race. I don't think like an ultra yeah that it becomes like a backyard backyard ultra pretty much.
00:35:05
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. yeah Exactly. So, but but no, like even for the prologue, the prologue will be interesting because even in that 7K prologue, we do three loops. So we come quite through the start finish area within 7K quite a few times.
00:35:20
Speaker
Um, which, yeah, cause they definitely changed a little bit from like few years ago when the final was like five or six days long, right? Like when they had, you know, madeira at least four days. Yeah. Like, which was probably a bit too much. Yeah. Yeah. to like like yeah and And this is the thing. It's like, they're trying to cater to so many different athletes and different athletes will have different views. Like you speak to some that.
00:35:47
Speaker
Like everyone likes different types of races. um And I don't think they're ever going to please everyone. ah So yeah, it's just, it's like the the reason they didn't do another one of the multi-day races is because the athlete said it was too much, but then.
00:36:06
Speaker
It's a case of, well, some athletes will like it if it's a technical final, some athletes will like it if it's a non-technical. So I know from, that they they kind of try and go for a mix where you have within one race, there's some technical parts, there's also some fast runnable parts. um And so it's like the overall all best well-rounded sort of trail runner, I think, that they're aiming to get the win.
00:36:31
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I think they're kind of like, obviously, you know, in the back of their mind is something like the tour de France that is a multi-day event that, you know, obviously is kind of fun to follow and, and, and be a part of, and then running road running races where it's really hard to kind of back up day after day and and race hard on the road. But like on trails, a bit more forgiving, you can go back to back. Um, but yeah, I think you're right. I think it's, it's finding that balance between.
00:37:00
Speaker
making it as even as possible where it's not super technical, not super flat. like There's a bit of everything, so it's kind of like um even kind of play playing field. But I think it could be cool if it was like you know a flatter course one day, then the second day.
00:37:20
Speaker
Might be more of a downhill lot of third days more of a like a uphill race and then the last days like a fifteen or twenty k. You know loop that gets a bit of everything. Yeah but yeah i think obviously racing four days in a row is is not not easy oh i loved it but i was one of the very few people that loved it.
00:37:41
Speaker
Yeah, and I think with like so many races around it, it's kind of like you really need to put time aside for it to really be like your final, final for the year. And maybe some people are still racing after that. And yeah, I guess time will just tell and the way it's kind of moving too. But obviously they want to get in tea into like TV and stuff like that, broadcast broadcasting. So um looks like they are trying to keep it short and more engaging. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.
00:38:10
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. yeah i'm I'm actually so pumped. And one other thing I am very pumped for is the fact that I know that a lot of ah few other Aussies are on their way to where I am right now to come join. And so completely separate to the Golden Trail World Series um is the Golden Trail National Series.
00:38:31
Speaker
And so we covered all the races that happened in Oz for our national series earlier in the year um and our final. And what happens now is that the winners of that, so that was Maggie Lennox. Oh my gosh, Indy Zamet was the under 23 female and Leo Peterson on the men's side and Toby Lang in the under 23 men's. So they will all now come.
00:38:59
Speaker
ah compete also shout out to I think was it Billy that came second to it was wasn't it Brody you with me yeah I think it was maybe Billy cuz tape dropped off the top of the ranking. I can quickly check. I know this, but anyways. How come they had two females and one male for the Australian team? No, so yeah, if you saw on the thing, so what happened with Oz is that because, so Katinka is named in the team as well. She won't be racing. She's been struggling with some injury. So she had to take a tinker for making the team. She's still actually going to be here. So number one cheer squad is going to be Katinka.
00:39:39
Speaker
Um, but that was just an option thing because for how the support works is that the local country, um, pays for the flights over to the final and then the final puts them up in the accommodation, the food and everything. And, but everyone's so courts kind of given the same budget, which puts Oz at a bit of a downfall of it costs a lot more to get two people or three people across from Oz than it does from Switzerland or the Nordics or anywhere else, um, in Europe.
00:40:09
Speaker
So the Oz deal was that the winner of the Open and the winner of the Under-23 got a paid trip across. Katinka took up the option to buy her own flights to then come. And ah i'm I'm fairly sure it was Billy in second place in the men's and he wanted to go to South Korea. So he he went to South Korea and didn't opt to take that option where he could have paid his way transport wise.
00:40:38
Speaker
um but then got supported once he got here. um So that's why we had that discrepancy between that. And that's why most countries do have two open and one under 23. And Oz, we're going to have one open, one under 23.
00:40:53
Speaker
okay But it's first year for Oz, so we'll see how we go in future years for that. Hopefully it just grows. But in terms of what they do now, so they have their own individual ranking with individual prize money. So like first, second and third in the national series individual. um It's 1500 euros, 1000 euros, 500 euros for that. um And also the under 23. So the under 23s have a completely separate prize pool as well.
00:41:20
Speaker
Again, 1500, 1500 euros. But then they also have a team ranking with prize money. How the team ranking works is they take, for us,
00:41:31
Speaker
they will actually just have to take all of our runners um times because the way it normally goes is that they, the top time in the open, plus the top time in the under 23 for men and women. So they add four of those times together. And that's how they rank the national series teams overall. So it's like, oh, it's against the Nordics, against the Spanish, against all of the other teams.
00:41:59
Speaker
um And then there's 3,000 euros up for the first national series team, 2,400 for the second and 1,800 for the third, obviously to be split between the team. um So yeah, they actually have a few things going on in terms of the national series of like ways to sort of win prize money and just compete, but it's a separate competition. The one other interesting thing is though, that and I kind of love this, is that obviously I say obviously way too much. Anyways, people, the um is that the um it's the same race. So we're all on the same start line. So the World Series people are on the same start line as just mass participation as well as national series. And the point scoring for the World Series is still affected by the national series and the open mass race because it's just your position is your points, which is how they come mix it up a little.
00:42:58
Speaker
I really think that the team aspect of it should should be kind of explored a little bit more because I think that that's the fun bit of of racing. um You should talk with Greg and tell him that there is the easy way of like you know the last day, the third day. So like let's say you have the prologue on a Friday, main race on a Saturday, and then the Sunday should be the 3K loop, which is already part of the thing, but as a relay um kind of option. So each country would have to like ah an open male, open female, and then another 23 male and female. um And in in a relay kind of style, I reckon that would be so much fun to watch and and and to kind of trying to get behind your country. And yeah, I guess, obviously, the the scoring of the team is cool. But also, if it's like a relay around a 3 or 4K trail loop, it would be so much fun. And like I would watch that for sure. like Obviously, triathlon has been doing it. And I think it's been a good success for triathlon.
00:43:57
Speaker
yeah I reckon you should tell them. I think it would be hard to fit in because you know well like they'd be racing the day after having raced in the main race as well. um yeah but its trail i mean like i mean Trail running obviously, the recovery is a bit quick quicker and and you know if it's only like a 3K race, a bit more fun, but still you know some people can take it a bit more serious. and um yeah Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where it goes um for sure. But yeah, it's a lot of fun to then be able to like, I'll be out there in the race for the women's, but especially for the men's, I'll be able to watch Leo and Toby um go at it. And no one knows the overall national series scores until the end of the men's race at the very end of the weekend and stuff. So.
00:44:40
Speaker
Yeah, follow along if you can and cheer out Aussies through, because yeah, it'll just be cool to see. I don't know how many now. There's a lot of national series now. There's what? One, two, three, four, five, six, 12, 13, 14. There's 14 different national series now. I shouldn't have counted that on here.
00:44:56
Speaker
But anyways, there's 14. I should have been able to count that basket. If I had, that was much better than I thought. Anyway, there's 14 teams that are going up against, um and they're not all one nation either. um So there's different ones that have multiple, um multiple different countries within one national series. I think doing the men and the female races together are very separate.
00:45:21
Speaker
No, so we're separate. So for timeline, the prologue, I think it'll actually be, it no, it'll be middle it'll be evening time, Oz time, because our prologues are for the women Thursday afternoon and for the men Friday afternoon. um And that is, I'm going to be i'm ranked 55th or 57th or something. like i'm I'm way, way back in this in this series now. but I'm going to be in part of where they send us off every 30 seconds. um So the mass participation and everyone ranked outside the top 30 gets sent off one at a time every 30 seconds. And then once they get to the top 30, it goes in backwards order. So 30th goes, then 29th, then 28th, one minute apart. So the last person to start the prologues will be Joyce on the women's and Elhuzine on the men's side.
00:46:13
Speaker
And it's like time trial style, one at a time. Off you go. I've only done one time trial start back in 2014 in the Mount Blanc marathon. And I was actually like three or four people before Killian. So I don't know how they put me so far back, but I was so excited, sprinted for the first like five minutes. Obviously got like, burned my legs, burnt everything and ended up middle of the pack.
00:46:42
Speaker
but I literally was standing there with Killian and he started like, you know, a minute behind me, a minute and a half behind me. Yeah. yeah Well, thankfully I had a bit of practice of this because Madelena is probably like one of the best, if not the best climber in the damn thing. And so when I started the session with her only two minutes back,
00:46:59
Speaker
I got the feel of what it's like to go, OK, don't take off too fast. like Don't sprint off this line because it starts on the one and a half K flatter kind of loop and then you start going uphill. um And I think I did it quite well that day because she only caught me like 100, 200 meters before the top. I was pretty freaking stoked. As we got further and further up, I was like almost going to push harder and fully redline to try and like get to the top first.
00:47:26
Speaker
But then I was like, but you've still got a ways to go. so what it What is the course? What is the course for the for both days? So the prologue course is seven Ks. It starts with a one and a half K fairly flat and fast. Like it's not flat, it actually goes down then back up, but not much compared to the rest. um Then we go on a one and a half, two K climb that's fairly, it's runnable, but it's so it's a steeper climb. And then this is where, for me, there's a part that really, really suits me because it goes straight down under the chair lift.
00:48:03
Speaker
um So super steep, wide grass, but then there is the bottom section of the chairlift where they've actually had to, there is a trail there, but it hasn't been used in many, many years and was very overgrown. So they've only just reopened it in the last couple of days. um They've had workers up there to reopen a very steep trail under the chairlift and it's technical, it's Like it's slow terrain. That was the point like Madelena caught me to the top, but then I was able to get back in front on like the um on this sort of descending because it's steep and technical. And then we keep, we go back past the start finish area and do another loop downhill. So another fairly technical downhill before coming back up to finish. And this one doesn't have a one and a half K loop at the end. So it's just an uphill finish into the finish line for seven K.
00:48:50
Speaker
um I'm going to guess it's actually going to be a little little less than 7K and it's going to be, I'm going to say just over 30 minutes for the women's win and yeah, 20 high for the men's. um but What's the elevation for the 7K? 400 or so. Okay.
00:49:08
Speaker
Up and down. um and So it's punchy. It's definitely punchy. ah But it's think of it as a flat start, then an uphill into a longer downhill into an uphill finish for the 7K. And then the 24K starts exactly the same. You have the shorter, flatter loop to start, and then almost the exact same loop as the Prolog.
00:49:31
Speaker
is the first bigger loop with the one difference that they take us higher on the mountain, they take us to the summit. And the way they take us to the summit is about 500 meters at close to 50% upper. but Like there's sections at like 47%, I think my Strava segments were saying, um straight up the side of a grass hill. So like, if you can see someone halfway up, there are a couple of minutes ahead of you, even though they're not very far ahead of you. And this is only three Ks into the race. So,
00:50:00
Speaker
a super steep climb to the top and then four and a half Ks of technical steep downhill. Well, sorry, there's the one K of steep downhill under the chairlift again, and then rocky, rocky downhill um all the way down to a town before you hit the 6.7 K 800 metre climb. um Off the top of that climb is probably the section that will either catch people out quite a bit or people will like, because there's about a 500-metre descent, I'm going to say again, at 40% descending, and very technical, like, hands on the ground, kind of jumping down. Like, imagine a rocky outcrop of a mountain and you're trying to go down it, probably 500 metres worth of chemo-style kind of stuff, or
00:50:45
Speaker
Um, just very technical and then, um, but the rest of it's very fast. We hooked down some mountain bike trails. Um, you have a big long descent, all runnable after that section, but then it's a slight uphill into the finish. And as I said, again, the finish you run past, do the one and a half K loop you started with and then come back to finish.
00:51:08
Speaker
So yeah, it's ah it's an interesting one. It honestly is so varied at so many different times that it'll be very interesting to watch um and feel, I feel like I'll be back and forth.
00:51:19
Speaker
Talking about watching, do you know what's the deal with the bot broadcast broadcasting um of the event? Are we going to see it on Channel 7, Channel 9, Channel 10? In Australia, um the YouTube is always the way to go in Oz. I do know that there I saw the guy that's in charge of the live stream yesterday. I do know um they're not i too impressed with the level of coverage in some areas of the race. Is that Sebastian?
00:51:49
Speaker
No, yes, no. i okay I wish I knew his name. You just caught me out there because I feel like I should. Yeah, I think it's Sebastian Chateau. He won like the UTMB back in 2012 or 2013. I've raised him a couple of times and yeah I know he's been doing some of the live. But um I did hear that it's going to be on euro ah like Eurosports, which is a big deal around Europe. It's going to be live live on Eurosports?
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah, quite a few of the races have been live on Eurosport, or not quite a few. I think three of the other races have been live on Eurosport and every race that wasn't live on Eurosport had a 23 minute recap go out on Eurosport. So yeah, they're doing, ah they like they've been on Eurosport all year. um And this one again will be Eurosport and the YouTube. So very cool to watch. I'm actually probably most, no, I'm most excited for my race, but to then be done with my race and get to watch the men the next day is going to be hectic.
00:52:51
Speaker
But yeah, very worth tuning in. And I think that the actual races will be a good time for Oz. The prologues will be a bit nighttime. um But yeah, I mean, they're getting some big views on like YouTube. Yeah, they are. Sierra Zinal got like 120,000 views on the live.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely some big views. Even the recaps, you know, Mount Blanc recap, 150,000 views. and So they are doing well. Yeah, I know that the yeah, the they're moving towards trying to televise everything, which will be pretty damn cool. And obviously, that's part of their their exposure is aiming for exposure then grows the sport because it grows the sponsorships, it grows the money that's in the sport and all those sorts of things. So It's cool to be here and be part of. That is for sure. But that's probably enough Golden Trail Chat for ah for this episode. um It's kind of all my brain gets stuck on after being here and training for it for quite a while. But to where we don't have any major news or anything else for the week um or listener questions because we were just going to We knew that Golden Trail would take a little bit so instead we're going to bring it straight back to Oz and Vlad have you got the Pembe Trail Fest results handy?
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah, so I did actually did this race two years ago as my lead up for the Thailand World Champs. So this was three weeks before the World Champs and this is, well, it's actually like a full weekend of racing, a couple of hours south of Perth, um really now nice mountain bike trails, obviously a not crazy amount of elevation, but just beautiful flowing trails. um So they have a Friday short night kind of a race, but the main event is the Saturday half marathon and when I did it Sunday was also about a half marathon um so it's kind of a perfect weekend of racing for me. This year looks like they've also put in a longer marathon distance um but in the half marathon
00:54:58
Speaker
Distance, Nick Hargrove and Andrean Houston won the male and the female in one hour 40 and one hour 45, so actually quite close. um Only about 150 runners all up, so probably not getting crazy amount of runners coming over. And the marathon distance, the male was won by Harrolyn Menics and the women's by Jimin Bergman, sorry for obviously butchered your name but two hours 14 and sorry four hours 14 and four hours and 21 Only about 68 runners in the in the race. So not a big event It's it's definitely got a potential of being a bigger event. But yeah with so many races around Perth now, there's a bit more choice for runners and
00:55:49
Speaker
I guess doing the two or three hour drive out of Perth seemed to be a bit too much. So yeah, good event, but probably not the numbers that we're hoping for. Yeah. Nice. Sounds fun. Sounds very fun. Brody taking us to, we've got two races in South Australia happened last weekend or this weekend, I should say.
00:56:09
Speaker
Yeah, so the first one was the, I was just having a quick look at the South Australian Trail Running Championships. Now, do you notice him? Is this like a one-off race or is this the culmination of the season in terms of like the trail running championship? Because I couldn't quite figure that out. That is a very good question. I will do research while you read the results.
00:56:29
Speaker
Yeah, from what I can tell, it's part of a series, but I don't know if this is the actual championship race. Anyway, there was four distances, we'll cover three of them. There was the 35 kilometers, which they called the extra long. In the men, we had David Gomez in first and two hours 45, Brett Goldfinch in second and two hours 49, and Nick Walker in third in 259. In the females we had Lauren Rook in 259, 56. So she was just four seconds behind Nick who was the third male and Lauren I think is heading across to South Korea. I think the guys were commenting on that in their podcast. She's not in the named Australian team but she's running the short trail I believe. Second was Lauren
00:57:27
Speaker
Mallette in three hours and 41 so it looks like that was quite close and third was Yumi Oi in three hours 36.
00:57:39
Speaker
That was not extra so long. And there was also the long run, which was 24K in the men. First place was Max Stevens in one hour 50. Second was Kieran Rook in one hour 53. And third was Ben Princey in one hour 54. So some pretty close results there.
00:58:04
Speaker
And then in the women, we had Michaela Sexton in 1st and 2 hours 14, Emily Brownwood in 2nd and 2 hours 44, and Cynthia Piano in 2 hours 46. Nice. I'll just have a quick look. They also had a 17K medium run, and the winner in the males was Zach Ronaine in 1A 27 in the women, it was Lisa Davis in 1A 41. Nice. Now as far as I can tell, this is the final part of their series, but it says incorporating the 2024 South Australia Trail Championship. So I think the championship is just this race, um but then it is also the last race of the series.
00:58:49
Speaker
Yeah, cool. Nice one. So well done to all those runners. Had some wins and placings in the championships. Yeah. Well, I should have the updated. um We should be able to call out the um champion the season winners next week when it's all updated on their website.
00:59:08
Speaker
Yeah, cool, awesome. We also had a big ah sort of long trail, long ultra over in South Australia, sorry, the Hazen 105, which is quite a, I think a famous ah or a well-known ultra in South Australia. i Obviously, sorry sorry to kind of disturb you there, but it's obviously i famous because of my YouTube video that I made there two or three years ago.
00:59:37
Speaker
I didn't know where I knew it from. but Yeah, i'm I'm not going to go too deep into it, but literally the Perth Marathon was a week before. This is during COVID, so not much.
00:59:48
Speaker
opportunities to travel. So I walked around the Perth Marathon and I went, who wants to come with me to South Australia next week to run the first Ultra Marathon? So I got a free entry in flights to the race. And I was like, I'm going to pass it forward. I'm going to give it to somebody else. I'll pay for my own trip, but I'll give the flights and accommodation to somebody else.
01:00:07
Speaker
So i walk around um the finish line of the Perth marathon and I'm like every anybody's here not done an ultra marathon and Obviously, I was like few people say yeah I've never done an ultra marathon I was like do you want to come next weekend to do your first ultra marathon the heist and 50k all paid for it and everybody said no except one guy, Ben, and we had a fun trip, he did his first ultra marathon, which was a painful experience. I did that race as well. They don't like course-marking that race, so they just followed the Heisen trail, um which obviously I got lost, yeah but still, yeah, fun weekend. and There is a video about it on YouTube, if you have a look at my YouTube channel, it's up there. It's actually a fun video.
01:00:52
Speaker
That one sounds worth the watch, but also I want to check this sanity of this guy that said yes to an ultra marathon for the first time on the finish line of a marathon one week earlier. Yeah, exactly. One week after his first, I think it might've been his first marathon as well. Um, we had, you know, we had a fun weekend. He did not enjoy it. Like I think part of the video started like.
01:01:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was not happy, I think, like, you know, five hours into the race. And I think the race was even harder than what I kind of told him it was going to be. I was like, Oh, yeah, South Australia shouldn't be that bad 50 days. The course was actually tougher. It was really hot. Yeah, great event. ah Beautiful part of i still running. Or have you put him off?
01:01:35
Speaker
I think he's still running. This was two or three years ago, three years ago, COVID 2021. So yeah, three years ago. Yeah, he's still running. I see him sometimes. I see Strava sometimes, but I don't think he's done any ultra marathon since.
01:01:52
Speaker
no Anyways, bringing it back to this year's results, Brody. I've got to watch that YouTube video. yeah I'll put it on the list, just loading it up. All right, so it actually says here that the Hyson Trail is 115 kilometers. So I'm not sure why it's called the Hyson 105, but um the winner in the women was Sky Witcher. She ran 13 hours and 27 minutes, 47 seconds. ah Second was Phryne Weckert in 15 hours ah flat and 50 seconds. And third was Yuko Sato in 15 hours and 7 minutes and 34 seconds. So fairly close finish between second and third. I wonder if that was a bit of toing and froing.
01:02:47
Speaker
um got females, I'm trying to, oh, there's the men. So in the men, the winner was Isaac Fishlock in 11 hours and 28 minutes, 19 seconds. Second was Jared Allen in 12 hours, 13 and 40 seconds. And third was Angus White in 12 hours and 16 minutes and four seconds. So again, close finish there. So yeah, that's the results from Hyson. Very nice.
01:03:19
Speaker
Very nice. Now I'm going to take us to the back to Vic for the Hume and Hovel ultra, which is actually was the, is this year's a hundred mile ultra national championships. Um, so they had the, the miler there, which is still going, but we do have the results for top male and female. Um, so in the winter in the men's, which it looks like he had a very solo day, but hella strong.
01:03:49
Speaker
because it was won by Nolis Rope. I'm going to say that I butchered that name, but I tried. And he won in 18 hours and 40 minutes. And second was Tim Cochran in 21 hours and 15 minutes. And then in third was Rob Mason in 21 hours, 51 minutes.
01:04:10
Speaker
So Nolus had a day of it by the looks of that and was um had a bit of a gap ahead. But then in the women's, it was won by a 100-mile national champ is Melissa Robertson in hours 26 hours 34. And third was Meredith Quinlan in 28 hours 55.
01:04:36
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And then there's still a couple of people out on course. Meredith was actually the last lodged finisher so far. But then also at the Human Havel Ultras, they had a 100K. That was won by Matt Gore in 9 hours 37, 2nd Damian Smith 12 17, and 3rd Matthew Russell in 12 hours 40.
01:04:59
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ah First female was actually then fourth overall, and that was Amanda Stanford in 13 hours 30. Second female, Heidi Kimber, 15, 13. And third female, Melissa Halilovich in 15 hours 14 minutes. So there was 50 seconds over 100K between the second and third female.
01:05:22
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Which, damn, I think that would be a painful way to finish if you're racing it. um Would not want that. um And just quickly for the 50K, that was won by Benjamin Butler in five hours 18. And first female and second overall was Ellen Bradley in five hours 33. So.
01:05:43
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one for the women there. And the other, only other results from this week, this one, though, is a big result and could not be understated how well she's done here. Our very own Lara Hamilton, who will be racing this week with me at the Golden Trail World Series final. She was at the Mountain Running World Cup finals in, it's also in Italy, so it's not too far away, in Chiavenna. And she ran the VK, so this is the World Cup final VK, and she came sixth.
01:06:17
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So, it was won by Scout Adkin um in 3757, then Fillory's, then Paola Stampinoni, who I know that name now because she actually won a week before this, she won Claro Pizzo. So, she's an uphill specialist. um But then Lara was in 40 minutes and 18 seconds, only 25 seconds behind Joyce and Jerro.
01:06:42
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And she beat a very, very strong list of runners. So that is an absolutely incredible result for Lara. And I could not be happier to see it. I also know she was only like 24 hours off the trip over from the US. So, hella strong and bodes very well for seeing her do well in the final this week when we both run there.
01:07:02
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ah The only other things that I just saw pop up um out of just random interest is that Tate Herpes, who was one of the leaders of our national series, um he popped up on my Strava having run Melbourne Marathon half today, or yeah, today, your time, um in 68 minutes. And our SA correspondent Fraser Darcy but popped out a 31 minute 10K at Melbourne Marra as well. So there's some hella fast and strong running there.
01:07:32
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ah Any other results on either of your radars at any? No, I just thought, I think Lara's race is very, very impressive. I think like you sort of alluded to the runners that she was running against, but the time is also super quick. I think it's like one of the quicker times I've seen.
01:07:49
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Men or a female from Australia do in a vk. Obviously it's quite a quick course, but it's definitely it's like four minutes faster than what the fastest time at Kenyani is and and that sort of thing so yeah yeah the the time one was in about It would have been in about 3k for the 1000 meters. So it was a short and steep one for sure. It looked hectic. So yeah, so strong though. So freaking cool to see. Yeah, another race that wasn't too far for us was in South Korea. I think like talking with Billy, he wanted to do that as a warm up race, the Trans-Jaeju.
01:08:31
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um, race, which is obviously, you know, two weeks off the Asia Pacific trail champs with the selection criteria, you know, allowed to raise so close to the race. But, um, I did see that one of the Korean, so I'm not going to butcher his name like a butcher old names, but Kim, um, I've raised him a few times is probably the highest second highest ranked.
01:08:55
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Itra runner in the short male category. um He did do the 20K so maybe South Korea doesn't have such a strict policy about racing so close to a championship race. He did win the 20K race and he's going to run the short trail. But yeah, kind of was thinking about it that trail races, you can recover a bit quicker. It's not like road running where you need a couple of weeks. Sometimes you could use a, I know that me and Brody talked a little bit about it when we did our run together that you could use, you know, a race two or three weeks out of like a key race as a, as a good kind of sharpening race.
01:09:35
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um But yeah, as as part of the Australian thing is that you're not allowed to race. I think it's like five or six weeks before. Five or six is a lot. Yeah, I mean, I can understand if you're ah doing like a 100k road race, that would make sense to me. But, you know, with trail races, you know, it could be a bit more flexible, only because, you know, recovery is different, you know, the impact is different. um You're not using the same muscle group, like, you know, for like a marathon for for two or three hours, it's different muscles and
01:10:08
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Um, yeah, I know like a day after marathon, uh, road marathon, I'm not going to be fresh, but like a day after a two and a half hour trail racer could go and do a 90 minute trail runner or two hour trail run might be a bit sore, but not like, you know, after a yeah road marathon. Yeah, I think it like, I know that Australia is not the only one with this sort of ruling. I know for world champs, different countries all have different kinds of rulings on, um, how long before the championship you're allowed to race and Like personally, maybe I think ah for a world championship, like sure, two weeks before for the shorter ones and four weeks for the longer ones. Like i what they're trying to do usually is just make it so that you're really targeting that race. But I think in order for personally, for me, if even if I'm doing a longer race, like the, the lead in races teach me a lot for the key race and actually get me ready for it um in many ways. So yeah, I think there's always two ways to think about it.
01:11:06
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Um, cause obviously you wouldn't want to target like full on go for another race necessarily, um, in the lead up to a championship race, uh, depending on the time line beforehand. But yeah, if it's like five to six weeks, I'd feel very stale racing a race, I think off five to six weeks of not racing another.
01:11:26
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yep on the shorter distance side at least yes i mean i'm just looking at the results and yeah his surname is kim ja so is his first name he won it in a now 25 and this is i guess 12 days before the short trail racing Yeah, like I would think that this is kind of like a perfect Sharpening kind of a session almost Before the race. Yeah, I would almost always have before my key races within the last three to four weeks. I would almost always have a race um Like before my last race of this season I think my second last race is two and a half weeks and they're both long so but that's just personal preference for
01:12:09
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race spacing and effort spacing and stuff. So it's it's hard for them to cater for everyone, I think. Um, but yeah, interesting. Yeah. I mean, like you could also think about it because obviously we have to pay for our own flights. Um, but if you do have a sponsor that could, you know, pay for a UTMB race, which is two weeks before, and you can kind of combine the trips suddenly, you know, it kind of works probably a bit, bit better as it's kind of linked together.
01:12:36
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Yeah, it will be interesting um next year to see what the ruling is in terms of ah there's four weeks between UTMB and World Champs. So does when the policy comes out, you'd assume it would state any of these sorts of rulings and policies based on selection. So it could be that World Champ selection automatically rules anyone that wants to be on that team out of any of the UTMB races, depending on timeline allowed.
01:13:06
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So that'll be interesting to see when it does come out. Yeah. I mean, I think with, with the short course, I don't know exactly know about the long course for the world chance, but the short course is, is actually fairly long. That's like 42 K with 3,700 meters of gains. So that's a long race. Um, where the Asia Pacific trail short champs, uh, short course champs so is a bit of a shorter trail. So yeah, I guess that could probably.
01:13:31
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um you know, have some different kind of rulings. But yeah, I know that Billy wanted to do this race and obviously he couldn't because he was part of the short course team. Yeah. Yeah, cool. Interesting times. We'll see how um how that plays out moving forward and we'll keep people updated. But for what's coming up next week, it's actually a pretty big week in many different ways. So you've got Blackhall 100 up in Queensland.
01:13:59
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um Also up in Queensland, I found Lamington Classic, which just sounds cool because it's in Lamington National Park, and I love that name. um In Sydney, there's one of their um Sydney Trail Running Series, I think, St Ives again, or um but yeah one of their Trail Running Series. Kunanyu Trail Series have their race at Nokloftee. Then there's one called the Brindabella Ranges Ultimate Trail Ultra Spectacular, which they call Brutus, which is a bit of a name.
01:14:29
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ah In Vic, there is the roller coaster trail run, which is a very big one for being local to Melbourne and really not far out of the city. And then this one I added in because I just, it's hilarious. There's a race called in, or maybe in Queensland again, called I Can't Believe It's Not Butter. And that's because it is a, far as I can tell, it is a trail version of Butter 24.
01:14:53
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which is a 24 hour track race. So I can't believe it's not butter is a timed race. I think they've got three, six, 12, 24, and 48 hour races, but it's on like a 5k out and back trail.
01:15:07
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as opposed to a track. So yeah, big mix of different types of races all around the country going on next week. um But for the three of us, also some fairly big weeks. Brodie, I'm assuming you travel this week too, or do you travel after? Yeah, no, I'm traveling this week. i um I've got just three days left here in Sicily. So I fly on Wednesday um to Korea and get get in on the 17th to Seoul and I'll be there for a few days and then I'll head down to where the race is.
01:15:37
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Nice. Nice. And so you both get their similar time, Vlad? Yeah, I think I go there a few days before, so I'll go there on Wednesday. Okay. Nice. And I have entered taper mode. So all easy running from here because a double race week is kind of, this is a new one for me. I've actually never done a prologue into a normal race. So um trying to figure out how to actually properly taper into this one has been an interesting mental exercise, but I think we're starting that today by going bowling. So, great taper. Anyways, it is, it is. We'll see the recap on the golden trail um episode that's going to come out. for you
01:16:19
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Quite possibly because it's me and Maddie and Madelena and Meow and Greg. I think Sara Alonzo might be coming along too. Like it's going to be a pretty eclectic mix of humans. So that will be a whole bunch of trail runners trying to bowl. um But on that note, I will say thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode. We hope you enjoyed. I hope that as many people as possible do tune in to cheer on our Aussies.
01:16:47
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this coming week at the Golden Trail Finals. And yeah, any listener questions for following weeks, any news, any results, keep sending them in. Thank you so much for everyone that has. And we will both all speak to you. Well, not me. I'll be racing. But these two and Jess will speak to you next week. Fantastic. See you there.