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Daily Women's Football: Beyond the Pitch Episode 118: Managerial merry-go-round and FA Cupsets
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Catherine and Cate review the week's FA Cup games, including the massive upset that is Liverpool beating Arsenal. They also touch on Gareth Taylor being the latest manager to leave a WSL club, and upcoming WSL matches.
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Transcript
Introduction to Beyond the Pitch
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to Beyond the Pitch, a daily women's football podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm Catherine and today I'm joined by my favourite Italian.
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Cate
um And look at that.
00:00:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
The flat from Alessia Russo who is part Italian. Oh my
00:00:23
Cate
Yeah. And look at that. It's still bright. I don't have to put the light on. look so much better in camera. And just to let you know, look at that. I broke my wrist.
00:00:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
god.
00:00:34
Cate
Feel sorry for me, everybody, please. Anyway, nice to podcast with you again. it has been quite a while, so...
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
It has.
FA Cup Weekend Highlights
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Global Sports Podcast Network
um so in today's podcast, we'll be talking all about FA Cup fixtures of the weekend. ah Both Manchester clubs picked up wins. Manchester United beat Sunderland three one Manchester City beat Aston Villa 2-0.
Gareth Taylor Departs Manchester City
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
We should say the news literally just came out just before we started this podcast that Gareth Taylor um is leaving Manchester City. i think... ah We'll touch on that more in tomorrow's podcast because at the moment, literally all we've seen is he's leaving and that's all we know.
00:01:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But yeah, City beat Villa 2-0.
Liverpool's Unexpected Win over Arsenal
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Chelsea struggled to a 1-0 victory over Crystal Palace and for the cup set of the year, Liverpool knocked out 13-time FA Cup champions, Arsenal 1-0.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Amazing.
00:01:32
Cate
That I was not expecting it.
00:01:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, i don't think anyone was.
00:01:35
Cate
That, I mean, I'm not going to lie. Yesterday, unfortunately, because I had my surgery the day before. So yesterday I was not, um I didn't really watch a lot of, I watched some of the highlights. I didn't watch the game.
00:01:50
Cate
But when I saw the result, I was like, wait, what, what, what, what?
00:01:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Right, we'll come back to Arsenal. We'll come back to Arsenal, I promise. um Let's start off by talking about the Manchester clubs, the two
Manchester City's Victory over Aston Villa
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Global Sports Podcast Network
of them.
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Cate
Yep.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
um
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Cate
yep
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Man City played Aston Villa. The first half was quite blunt, with Villa having... kind of the better of the chances, but unable to find the net. Bunny Shaw broke the deadlock just after half-time, assisted by Mary Fowler.
00:02:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jess Park then made it 2-0 at 17 minutes, scoring from Aviv Miedema Cross. So I take it you didn't watch the game. Yeah.
00:02:26
Cate
No, no, I didn't. As I said,
Manchester United's Dominant Performance
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Cate
I've been literally in bed. I watched some of the highlights, but again, when we watch the highlights, it's always very different.
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:35
Cate
ah Already, I think when you watch it on TV, it is quite different, isn't it? You don't get the same feeling as when you are there. i I don't know. I mean, I'm not very surprised.
00:02:46
Cate
I mean I can see also, I could see by watching the highlights, it was in one of those games where you just go like, oh, damn, I wish I was there watching that game and just like, meh.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, for sure.
00:02:56
Cate
All right. ah Surprise. i mean, not particularly. Like, i if I had to put my you know my money on one of the two teams, I definitely would have picked City.
00:03:07
Cate
Sorry, Villa, I like you, but that's the reality of fact. I just feel very sorry for them because they keep on losing. That's Villa.
00:03:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:16
Cate
ah Very excited about Manchester United. You know, I'm not going to lie. I know it's your team, etc. But it's just, you know, their whole the whole team.
00:03:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:29
Cate
So I'm not talking about just the women one. The whole team, the whole company is going through like probably the worst time they've had in the past, I don't even know how many years.
00:03:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:39
Cate
and so just seeing the girls that just keep on you know going out performing insistent i mean they they are the champions from last year so let's not forget that but also they just keep they keep on winning on the league they keep on winning in here and they okay sanderland sure not chelsea not one of the top top team but i'd say again i watched the highlights it seemed to be quite uh
00:03:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:04
Cate
You know, pretty comfortable win for the team, but also exactly what we were saying last time. um You again, when you watch the highlights is different, but you watch them playing and it feels like they just have fun when they play. It's just nice to watch.
00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
so uh yeah manchester united beat sunderland 3-1 in i would call it a professional showing Lear Galton scored the first header. It was a hat-trick of headers, three headers, Manchester United's goals.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
That came in the eighth minute. Sunderland, what I was really impressed with, they didn't then drop their heads and say, OK, well, we've lost this now.
00:04:40
Cate
Yeah.
00:04:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
They really gave United a lot of trouble. Yeah. My Letizia got the second header just before half time. Sunderland pulls one back, kind of a fluky goal around the hour mark, but Elatoun made it a hat-trick of headers in the 91st minute.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
And yeah, I was so happy for Elatoun, so happy for the whole team. Yeah. especially not having Elizabeth Turland, because I think she's still injured from that international break injury. ah So, yeah, it was a really good... it was like It was probably actually the best game to watch out of the out of the four games, because Sunderland gave them a good fight.
00:05:27
Cate
i think they I also think that they went into this game thinking, OK, we really need to play the game of our life. like We have to give it all.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:35
Cate
It's just one of those, isn't it?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:37
Cate
It's a bit like, you know, I'm thinking, for example, on Sunday when there is going to be the EFL Men's Cup final and it's like Liverpool-Newcastle. Newcastle is going to give everything because this is their only chance.
00:05:50
Cate
That's it. And the same thing is Sunderland, right?
00:05:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:52
Cate
Sunderland just probably went in saying like, you know what? That's that's it. like We have to give everything, literally everything we have. And also, I love the fact that exactly what you said, you know, it's not just question of like, okay, well, we' it's just like, okay, we okay we are losing, but we're still going fight until the end.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
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Cate
But I want to ask you something, actually, because you said before that this for you was a professional showing.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
um
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Cate
What do you mean by that?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:06:18
Cate
In what way?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I just mean Manchester United, they kind of, it was a professional win in that, you know, we say it in the men's game sometimes when a team, it's not the best performance they'll ever have.
00:06:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
and It wasn't a ummp ah totally dominant Manchester United who'd never let Sunderland have the ball and and all that. It was just, it was a kind of, um you know, it just looked like, oh, they went and did the job.
00:06:48
Cate
That's what you meant by professional. I understand that.
00:06:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:06:51
Cate
yeah
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't talking about professionals, I mean, professional players and so forth.
00:06:57
Cate
No, no, I was just very curious ah of ah you know of of what you were thinking in in that point of view.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:07:03
Cate
If if that's what what it is, or if you were referring more to you know maybe some of the, you know, how they were playing, how they did the changes, how they moved, you know, from one side to another, how maybe some of the players dropped back and dropped forward, if that's what you meant or not.
00:07:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:07:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, literally just very simple. They went there, they did the job, um job done. It wasn't...
00:07:27
Cate
This is, yeah, no, I'm saying this is this is what I see on, ah this is what I'm seeing in United recently.
00:07:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm?
00:07:35
Cate
You know, whatever it is, a WSL, whatever it is, a cup, whatever it is, a tournament, it's like, that's what they do. They just go in, they have fun, and they just bring the result home.
00:07:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm?
00:07:45
Cate
And I'm very excited. I wish them to get to the final. of that's That's my wish for them. Yeah.
00:07:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll be facing a Manchester City, probably still under Nick Cushing, who I swear, wasn't he linked to Arsenal ages ago?
00:08:01
Cate
ah ah What is going on, by the way? Like, what is going on?
00:08:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
know.
00:08:06
Cate
It's like every week, every week we are there going like, okay, who's next?
00:08:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's four.
00:08:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why now and with Gareth Taylor? like Why not in the international break, if they were thinking about it, Because that makes me think that it's just they've had the game against West Ham, the draw, and they beat Villa.
00:08:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So what in those two games has changed that made them say he
00:08:29
Cate
I don't know. So for me, there is two things. We need to see. So now now that I've kind of like worked in football a little bit more, I didn't know before.
00:08:40
Cate
But if they announce a coach very soon, it's because this was planned. So, you know, they went through interviews a bit like they did with Crystal Palace, isn't it?
00:08:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:51
Cate
It's just like... Well, you know, you post about saying goodbye to, you know, Laura the day before and then the day after you announced the new coach was like, OK, how long have you been planning that for?
00:08:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:03
Cate
Quite a bit. ah But ah if they don't, then maybe, I don't know, maybe just something happened and, You know, in our group chat today, someone was talking about, you know, it's got to have maybe something to do with Miedema Chloe Kelly, ah you know, what has happened in there. So we don't know what's happening behind closed doors. Realistically, we don't know.
00:09:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
No
00:09:27
Cate
You know, definitely it's like, although City wins, they are not the same team. So it's like you you watch them play, ah you watch them play and you just go like, oh like, oh,
00:09:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
No But it's like compared to that game against Barcelona ah Back in the autumn It looks like a different team Oh yeah Hmm
00:09:39
Cate
ah
00:09:45
Cate
Yeah. Yeah. But it is in a sort of way a different team. It doesn't just look. It is as well. But anyway.
00:09:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, that is as well. I think we have two big surprises, managerial changes and what we'll come to after the break, which is Arsenal.
Chelsea's Narrow Win over Crystal Palace
00:10:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
So both Manchester clubs won. The same could not be said for both London clubs. ah Starting with Chelsea, we'll get to Arsenal, don't worry. So Chelsea won 1-0 in the end.
00:10:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah They actually had the ball in the net three times. Aggie Beaver-Jones and Catarina Macario both had goals ruled out for offside. Palace did frustrate Chelsea. ah They didn't give Chelsea much room to beat Chelsea and...
00:10:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
do special things once again lauren james proved the difference uh something of a habit that's uh emerging recently lauren james getting charlsey out of out of tough situations uh what did you think uh from the highlights
00:10:49
Cate
Okay, so as you know, I have a soft spot both for Chelsea and Lauren James. So, I mean, here's my star girl. um I tell you what, I was ah chatting to a friend of mine, Anna, yesterday when I was checking the results because I remember last year we were actually down ah um watching the game.
00:11:14
Cate
a King's Meadow when Palace played of Chelsea in the FA. And it was a great game. And obviously, let's remember, last year, Palace obviously was wasn't ah in the WSL, so they were still in the Championship.
00:11:27
Cate
But they put on such a good fight. And so I'm not surprised. I also think that they are probably a bit more charged now with the new coach. ah You know, it can always go one way or the other, right? The new one comes in and you'll feel a bit like, meh, always like, OK, hey, let's go, let's do it.
00:11:45
Cate
So I think that's what they did. I also think that Chelsea looked a little bit tired again, little bit like what we saw with their Leicester game when they, in fact, drew, do you remember?
00:11:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:11:56
Cate
When Leicester played quite well, I have to say, but also Chelsea wasn't really there. I think they were a bit... disorganized it seemed a little bit yesterday i don't want to say lost but kind of like a bit like that maybe and I'm just saying maybe thought this was going to be an easy game and maybe they are underestimated could it be
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
a I mean, I was slightly surprised that there wasn't more rotation in the team. ahs Although Mayra Ramirez was on the bench and I think Kira Walsh was on the bench, ah it was still a pretty kind of strong Chelsea 11.
00:12:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And maybe maybe fatigue, as you said, is just a is just playing a role.
00:12:39
Cate
hmm
00:12:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, The international freight was only like a week ago and this is already their second game their second game back. Palace were out to frustrate them. I think Palace did that really, really well.
00:12:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But yeah, one question that's kind of in the back of my mind at the moment is Chelsea, I mean, Chelsea under Emma Hayes, I feel like this was their thing. They didn't play well all the time, but they picked up points.
00:13:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
again, the same thing's happening. They're not playing that well. So why haven't they lost a game? I mean, they did lose the occasional game under Emma. Like, haven't they lost a game yet?
00:13:23
Cate
Ah, OK. I was like...
00:13:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
haven't they lost a game yet
00:13:27
Cate
Because I think it's that type of mentality. is a little bit for me ah For me, Chelsea reminds me a lot of Real Madrid, but the the the male version of of the male ah team of Real Madrid.
00:13:41
Cate
It's just that type of mentality, right? Even when they find themselves in certain situations, as soon as they have a break. And you can see that sometimes when they come back from the break, it's like they come back another team.
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:53
Cate
They just go like, oh yeah, for a moment we forgot, but we're Chelsea, you know?
00:13:57
Cate
Like, we're Chelsea, that's it. Like, what we do is winning. And so they just, but also they have the players. ah You have players that are very resilient. So Lauren James is someone that does not like to lose.
00:14:08
Cate
I'm not saying all the players like to lose. That's not that's not what I'm saying. But she really in particular doesn't like to lose. And you can see she's just going to go and go and go and go and go and insist and insist and insist.
00:14:21
Cate
And actually, sometimes so to me, it looks like she performs better when they are in this type of situations where she really thinks like, OK, this is now my time.
00:14:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:14:31
Cate
I can do something. I really need to find a solution to this. Let me go and insist on this. That's my feeling.
00:14:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:14:39
Cate
I think, again, I think it's mentality. I said it many times. I remember when I went, oh my God, many, many years ago, when I went to watch Chelsea-Napoli in Champions League, main one.
00:14:51
Cate
And then Napoli, I think they won 3-1 or something like that at home in Naples, which was like, wow. So literally when they came to London, all they had to do was to play quite safe and just defend very well.
00:15:02
Cate
And then just Chelsea trashed them. And you could see it was just the mentality. It was not the technicality. it was not any things like that. that it it ah Totally off topic, like I love to do so, but it reminds me a little bit like ah when i when I watched some of the highlights yesterday of Italy, England in the rugby.
00:15:23
Cate
Italy has played an incredible game yesterday, but then they reached a certain point. I think England came back in the second half and went like, okay, we are England. That's what we do is we win against Italy.
00:15:36
Cate
This is our home and we are going show you. And they just over...
00:15:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who won in end?
00:15:41
Cate
England.
00:15:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, good!
00:15:43
Cate
No, but the first half, the first half was really, really tight. Like I was like, what is going on?
00:15:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:15:51
Cate
Like incredible tries from Italy as well. But then again, it's that mentality. And I think that's what Chelsea is really good at.
00:15:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:15:58
Cate
But also it's really good at, I'm going to use this word, but it's in a sort of way, not as negative as it could be in other occasions. But I think they're also quite good at bullying the other teams.
00:16:11
Cate
Because they come in in that type of thing.
00:16:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:13
Cate
It's a bit like, you know, if you know you get Real Madrid in a final, then Real Madrid doesn't really lose finals. So you're like, ah okay.
00:16:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:16:22
Cate
It's already like, oh. And I think Chelsea's like this. You know, when they come in, they come in in a certain way and they bully with their own behavior.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:31
Cate
in you know in ah in a play way and in a football way, not in a nasty way. But yeah, it's it's here. It's here. But anyway, why don't we talk about the second team?
00:16:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, so for
00:16:41
Cate
Because the second match, because that makes me very happy. Happy.
00:16:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
what ended up being the biggest game of the round, Arsenal against Liverpool, it was really tough for the Gunners.
Arsenal's Disappointing Loss to Liverpool
00:16:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
They lost 1-0 eventually, thanks to a really unfortunate own goal from their goalkeeper, Daphne Van Domsalaar.
00:17:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
So you go first, Leipzig.
00:17:06
Cate
I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say, i'm not even sorry. i'm just like, nah, I'm not even sorry.
00:17:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:17:13
Cate
not sorry. We are out of the cup. It's good. You're out of the cup. That's it. Done. That's it. No, was like, I think it's a, so losing in this way on a serious note, losing in this way is always very disappointing, right? If you lose three, one, and you know, the other team has played fantastically, ah you just take it. You go out of there and you say, do you know what?
00:17:36
Cate
Well done. Like literally like, well done. You guys deserved it. You played very well. When you lose like that, it's really frustrating. I mean, it happens of course. And you know, fair play to Liverpool because they,
00:17:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:17:49
Cate
you know, it happened many times to Italy too in many competitions that they were very lucky and then they got to the final. on um but So you need, you need everything, but I don't know. Like when I, again, when I watched the highlights, I didn't, I don't think the result is fair personally.
00:18:07
Cate
mean, nothing to take away from Liverpool, but I don't think the result is fair. Like ah You know, if I don't put my Tottenham Hotspur fan on hat on, then I'll say I don't think actually Arsenal deserve to lose from the way they play and and from the game.
00:18:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:27
Cate
But again, sometimes that's just how it is. And, you know, I'm just going to enjoy it and know that they will not get to the final.
00:18:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:18:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I have a few points. The first one is, I don't know if it came across on just the highlights, but when you watched it, the quality of the pitch was atrocious.
00:18:45
Cate
Yeah.
00:18:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
They should not be playing professional games on a pitch with that And you could see that Liverpool adapted much more easily because they tried to keep the ball in the air wherever possible. So there were lots of long balls.
00:18:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Arsenal were trying to do that, but they were also still trying to pass out from the back and keep the ball on the floor. And then, of course, the ball was sliding around everywhere. The quality of the pitch was atrocious. And I thought Liverpool adapted much better to it.
00:19:10
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um And then one thing, I wonder what you'll think of this. a I'm very sneaky and I am kind of a mute member of some Arsenal fan groups online just because I want to see what they talk about.
00:19:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
I do this with lots of people. Like I'm a member of like a Man City fan group online. Just I never say anything. I never say anything. I just sit watch.
00:19:32
Cate
Yeah, I understand. you you stay in your place, but you just ears drop here and there.
00:19:35
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Yes, I accept that it's not for me.
00:19:36
Cate
Well, you're doing research for the podcast, which is great.
00:19:39
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Yeah, exactly. It's not for me to speak in them, but I do just watch. And I do find with Arsenal fans that I think they slightly go over the top, both in positive and negative.
00:19:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, with Renee Steggers, my big thing has been she has done an incredible job, but I feel like a lot of the Arsenal fans were saying, like, manager of the year, this, that, the other, should be a national team coach or this. She's the perfect manager. Everything's brilliant.
00:20:08
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And now they've lost a game. And a lot of the reactions I'm seeing are, maybe she's not ready. Maybe she's not ready. it's ah It was her fault. It was all her fault because the tactics were wrong. The subs didn't come on until really, really late. It was the wrong team.
00:20:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah What was she doing? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, guys, it's okay to be excited when things are going well. But try and, you know, keep a bit of keep a bit of um being a bit measured about it.
00:20:38
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and you know then maybe these falls won't be as big hmm
00:20:43
Cate
So I'm going to say something here that will upset a lot of the gunners. I'm sorry. i think it's a for me, this is and I've seen this many times from them.
00:20:54
Cate
and It's a very a this type of behavior comes from the men's side of sports. That's what they do.
00:21:03
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hmm
00:21:04
Cate
yeah It's true. That's what they do. Like, you know, it's like Arteta is the best. And I'm not saying just Arsenal. That's general men. It's like, oh, my God. Like, you know, Mourinho. Oh, the special one. He's the best. Like, no one like him.
00:21:16
Cate
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like loses two games. And it's like, oh, who does he think he is?
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:22
Cate
bla And it's like, literally, were you not saying last week that he was just like the best? What's going on?
00:21:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:21:27
Cate
And I think I agree with you. I think they are OTT. Exactly as you said, in the good and in the bad. Like, you know, when they need to put together, they put together, they go, you know, they're noisy, they show up for their teams, whatever you want to.
00:21:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:21:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
and ah
00:21:43
Cate
But also, yeah, OTT on the other side. i don't think it's going happen.
00:21:46
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I should point out, I'm not saying this is only Arsenal fans because you see it a lot with England fans as well. Like when um when we won against Spain, all of a sudden we're going to win the Euros.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
When we lost ah to Germany, it was Sax Arena, get rid of the whole team and play the under-23s. But I feel like Arsenal fans are like the worst defenders for it.
00:22:10
Cate
So yeah, I don't know. um i don't know. I have no idea, to be honest. i think I think that's what it is. The only thing that we were thinking in here, just to say about it, is that, so I think Arsenal is probably right now, i would probably say, definitely out of, ah you know, the Premier League race.
00:22:30
Cate
Obviously, they're out of the cup. So I think the only competition they are in is the Champions League, right?
00:22:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
The women, you mean?
00:22:39
Cate
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
00:22:39
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Yeah. Okay.
00:22:41
Cate
Yeah. So, you know, that's quite ah there's quite a lot of there's quite a lot of pressure in there for to deliver something.
00:22:43
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Yeah.
00:22:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is.
00:22:50
Cate
And I actually think that, you know, considering this is her first season as a coach and it wasn't something that it was planned, she's doing fantastically well also with the team.
00:22:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:23:00
Cate
So...
00:23:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
i I completely agree. i think my my takeaway was just that I feel like it's a lot of pressure for a coach as well when everyone's kind of saying, oh, you can make get miracles out of out of this team. You can do this. it's like, but okay, well, if that doesn't happen, then that just just gives them a lot further to fall.
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:23:24
Cate
Yeah.
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
But no, I think she's done incredibly well, especially in bringing kind of the spirit back to the team.
00:23:30
Cate
correct
00:23:31
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00:23:56
Cate
Yeah, so our last but not least topic in the last few minutes that we've got left is actually chatting a little bit about the next round of the Cup. A bit boring that the two Manchester team have been drawn, you know.
00:24:12
Cate
I mean, I did think about it. As soon as I saw the result, I was like, oh, it's going to be another Manchester derby, is it? Yeah, it is. I would have loved to actually see...
00:24:24
Cate
I want to say Chelsea City yet again.
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:27
Cate
Yeah. Yet again. That would have been so funny in history. Can you imagine? don't think that's ever happened. Champions League, f FA, WSL, all in the same, like, I don't know, four weeks, month.
00:24:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:38
Cate
But no, it would have been, it would have been nice to mix it up a little bit, but it is what it is. i know that you're probably happier than, as Manchester, that you didn't get Chelsea. It's probably like an easier way into the final.
00:24:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:51
Cate
So I'm going to, if I have to put something, going to have to say my final would be Chelsea United.
00:24:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I'll take that. I do. um
00:25:02
Cate
um But i don't think I don't think you will win against Chelsea.
00:25:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:25:04
Cate
I'm sorry. But yeah, you get to finals.
00:25:05
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No, i don't. I think after last year, i was saying the reason why I was happy that we ah avoided Chelsea was because I thought last year, semi-final, we beat Chelsea for the first time in our history and knocked them out.
00:25:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
And yeah, I think there will be a revenge element from them. Yeah.
00:25:25
Cate
Oh, but that was, oh my God, I remember that. That's when Emma got so upset. Oh, she was so upset, wasn't she?
00:25:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah,
00:25:32
Cate
Oh my God. Yeah, I remember now. Now I remember. But also at that time, that time she got out of the cup.
00:25:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:25:39
Cate
She was risking losing the Premier as well. Sorry, the the league.
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah
00:25:43
Cate
Not the Premier, sorry, the league. She was, I think, was she already out of the Champions League or she just got out of the Champions League? It was a bad time.
00:25:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:51
Cate
it was bad
00:25:51
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Well, it was when, because everyone, this is what I mean with everyone going over the top. Everyone was talking about Chelsea doing the quadruple. And then all of a sudden they were out of three of the competitions and it was like, oh, this is terrible. This is the worst thing that's ever happened. I'm like, no, it's not.
00:26:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Come on, guys.
00:26:08
Cate
Yeah, it's true.
00:26:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, sorry.
00:26:09
Cate
ah su Yeah, but we lie.
00:26:10
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I feel very random.
00:26:11
Cate
Come on, we are a bit drama queens anyway.
00:26:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, exactly.
00:26:13
Cate
No, I think this is this is what I think. Hey, look, maybe we are going to get surprised. Maybe Liverpool is going to get lucky again.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm?
00:26:21
Cate
Maybe City with the new interim coach. is going to beat your you know red asses. We don't know. We don't know. We'll i have to watch. It's the weekend of the 13th of April, right?
00:26:31
Cate
So the weekend before Easter.
00:26:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:26:33
Cate
Are you going up to watch the game? Or are you going up to report and write on the game?
00:26:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll have to see because I've just been put forward to cover the lionesses in Belgium.
00:26:44
Cate
God! That is fantastic!
00:26:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
and We'll have to see.
00:26:46
Cate
ah
00:26:46
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like If I get to do that, like if if the FA accept me to do that. then I probably won't be able to afford to go off to Manchester as well.
00:26:56
Cate
Oh, babe, that is fantastic. Well well done. Congratulations. I hope you get to go to Belgium.
00:26:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you. Me too.
00:27:02
Cate
I really do. Yeah.
00:27:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Me too. Oh, finally, ah last thing, the WSL is back this weekend.
00:27:04
Cate
Yeah.
00:27:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
There are some juicy fixtures, including Everton Arsenal, Crystal Palace Aston Villa, Spurs Brighton, and a little rivalry we like to call Liverpool United.
00:27:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Come on, United. um Two games from this game week have already taken place. So Man City were held to a 1-1 draw by West Ham, which by the sounds of it could have been the final nail in the coffin for Gareth Taylor.
00:27:27
Cate
Yeah.
00:27:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And Chelsea beat Leicester three one We need to shout out Ruby Mace ah for that game, who was stretched off in what looked like massive amounts of pain. And yeah, luckily, it's not an ACL.
00:27:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It has been. confirmed.
00:27:50
Cate
Confirmed. That's good.
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:52
Cate
Already you freaked me out on that evening when you texted it because you were like, oh, you remember when you were oh my God, what's going on? She was supposed to be Kira's replacement. And I was like, what?
00:28:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah. but
00:28:03
Cate
I was like, what did I miss in there? What happened to Kira?
00:28:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, um it i accidentally made it sound like something had happened to Kira Walsh.
00:28:07
Cate
Anyway.
00:28:10
Cate
Yeah. And I was like, what? And I, what?
00:28:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
By saying like, oh no, Ruby.
00:28:15
Cate
I'm like, no, I'm not. I know, i was like, I haven't watched football for one day and Kira Walsh is out of the Euro. No, please, come on.
00:28:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, no.
00:28:23
Cate
um No, I'm going to go and watch Tottenham if my arm is okay and I recover on time, etc.
00:28:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:30
Cate
I have a few friends in town, so I think we're all going to go and watch it. I don't think it's going to be an easy game against Brighton at all.
00:28:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:28:38
Cate
I think Brighton is coming to to get points and to win and to fight for sure.
00:28:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:44
Cate
So I think it's going to be a really good game to go and watch. I also think that our girls are going to put in a really good fight. So it's going to be a game where it's either going to be like a nil-nil because both teams are going to be like, okay, we want to win, but we don't want to lose. We want to be very careful.
00:29:02
Cate
it's going to be something like, I don't know, four, three, something like that.
00:29:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:06
Cate
So I don't know.
00:29:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
They have a plea to the Spurs manager to play Beth England in her rightful position.
00:29:08
Cate
Um,
00:29:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because, yeah.
00:29:15
Cate
I'll text him. I'll tell him. I'll throw one of the paper planes. I'll be like, whoo!
00:29:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
but She's a nine. She's nine.
00:29:22
Cate
Can you do that? And I am really looking forward to...
00:29:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:26
Cate
I won't be watching the game, but I will be watching the highlights and following ah Crystal Palace Aston Villa.
00:29:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:33
Cate
Obviously, you know, big relegation battle in there. Crystal Palace obviously called in another ah coach to have the opportunity to push on any possible little opportunity to stay up and not to go back down.
00:29:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:49
Cate
So that's what they're going to be, ah you know, playing for when Aston Villa goes down on Sunday. So... That's also, I think, is going to be. Yeah, of course, Everton, Arsenal and Liverpool, Manchester United.
00:30:02
Cate
There would be interesting games.
00:30:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean Everton will be tough for Arsenal I feel like coming well coming off of the loss Everton can be a very physical team that was part of what caused Arsenal so much trouble
00:30:07
Cate
Why?
00:30:13
Cate
Yeah, but...
00:30:17
Cate
Yeah, that's true. But I mean, again, they're coming off a loss, which is not like a really bad loss. It's more just like an make me angry, a bit annoyed loss because it's like, damn, that was really unlucky.
00:30:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And
00:30:28
Cate
It wasn't just like, wow, like we got our asses super beaten. So I don't know. It could be, it could go both ways. They can go up there and be like, you know what? No, we're going to show you who Arsenal is and they're just going to beat Everton a lot.
00:30:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah.
00:30:41
Cate
But we'll see.
00:30:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:30:43
Cate
guess, you know, we'll find out the next week.
00:30:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah um Before we go, we'll just say Man United that are going to thrash Liverpool 6-0. That's it.
00:30:51
Cate
Shall I put my money on it?
00:30:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:53
Cate
Okay.
00:30:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Although i i have a huge soft spot for Sam Kerr of Scotland and Liverpool. So maybe maybe I don't want her to feel bad. so
00:31:02
Cate
Right. So instead of 6-0, 5-0, how about that?
00:31:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:06
Cate
Softer, yeah?
00:31:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, but she has a really good game.
00:31:07
Cate
A bit softer. Ciao.
00:31:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sam Kerr has a really good game. Okay, so that's all we have time for today. ah Thank you for joining us and we look forward to welcoming you the next episode of Beyond the Pitch. Bye, Kate.
00:31:19
Cate
Ciao.