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BIGGEST SCAM? Anthony Joshua 🥊 Jake Paul Boxing #boxing #boxeo Review
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WTF DID WE SEE??? Anthony Joshua 🥊 Jake Paul Boxing #boxing Review
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Welcome and Show Promotion
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Let's get it on, baby.
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Yo, yo, yo, what up, friends, ball and buds? Back at it again. And yes, you know that we had to come back as what was a crazy, crazy weekend.
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All everyone is talking about on the Internet is what happened in the Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua fight on Netflix. And wow, so many opinions out there and so many opinions right here And you came to get the best of them.
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So welcome to Ballin' Buds. Make sure you subscribe at B-A-L-L-A-N-D. B-U-B-S on YouTube, handy QR code over there on the
Humorous Boxing Recap
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side. You as well got Clubber D's YouTube at Clubber D. I as well got Josh from 86 Boxing at 86 Boxing and as well 86 Boxing TV. And finally, Clubber D, who we got?
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ay right as I take a sip people high and low left and right right to left forwards and backwards heavy on the poppy light on the yayo none other than poppy tune yayo yes sir that's right you know what's cracking man we had ah um we had an inciting week of ah boxing and I'm just looking forward to talking that trash Oh, I'm excited to see what you have to say, especially because I've been seeing you run run the Internet's ablaze, as they say.
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but let's get some comments here real quick. Boz 2.0, shout out. We appreciate you tuning in. Boz. As well, Bobby C355 is known as bob Bobby G, the tribal chief of podcasting. What up, brother?
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um Yeah, we'll see what happens with that bet. We'll see what happens there.
Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua Discussion
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as i We'll see what happens, Bobby G. He was ducking and diving a little. bit Can't make stipulations after you've met somebody. You cannot make stipulations, nah.
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take a take you finish it that i well play did i on sunday showed in a shameless plug every sunday after the day game before the night games we review all your nfl and college football so check us out me clever de dirty mojo and shane beach um but note what we came here to do was talk boxing and wow it could be ah considered a a stain on the on the eye of boxing that Anthony Joshua even let it go that long.
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ah But we saw a track meet. We saw one man running for his life. like he knew And that was the plan. That was the plan all
Alicia Baumgardner and Women's Boxing
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along. He said it beforehand.
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um But there are all kinds of rumors about scripts. There are all kinds of um you know potential alleged lawsuits.
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Jake Paul's broken jaw, which by the way, that paul at punch, which I know we're going to talk about. Oh my God. That was one of the good ones. And we'll talk about the rest of the card as well. We'll save that for just a little bit and to get y'all a little hyped up before we actually get to the main event there. But before that, um let's talk about Alicia Baumgardner, right?
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Three minute rounds for women. I know there was a lot of talk about this in the boxing champs. Oh, by the way, before we get into that, if you want to get in the boxing champs, fight picks group, free to play, win money, hit anyone up here. Shout out to champ Ross. We appreciate the great job you do. All you have to do is pick boxing match outcomes and you can win money for free. Hit us up.
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Thank you. Hit that like button as well. um So yeah, thinking about that, Alicia Baumgardner, complete domination. That girl looked like she had been through a two wars by the time this year. round and come around.
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Clever D, what are your thoughts on this fight? You know, I was i was happy ah she's getting the shine she deserves. um I was nervous, you know, if she had a gas tank because, you know, she kind of fades a little bit in fights and she hasn't been really
Advocating for Women's Boxing Equality
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been active. I think she's fought like two times in what, ah maybe two, three years, maybe something like that because I know she had that ah that break in, in fighting from the, uh, the test, the sample coming back, ah positive or she, hopes she beat that. But, you know, I thought she looked good. Um, I'm, I'm interested, interested to see if she's going against, uh, uh, uh, Du Bois's sister. That'd be, that'd be very entertaining. Um, but I'm happy that she got to show uh, She belongs on that stage. And also she can she can do the three minute rounds and a big F.U. to the WBC for not ah thinking women can fight for three or three rounds. I think that's ridiculous. I do understand the two minute rounds where you it's like a firefight. You want that. But, you know, it's equality. If they if men could do it, they can do it, too. So I'm i'm all for it.
Audience Interaction
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Yeah. And I like the idea that I saw floating around the Internet of winning the chip. choose. If they're the other champion, let they choose if they want three or two minute rounds. If they can do it, they can do it. Because obviously, that girl, Layla Boudin, was not ready for that.
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Alicia Baumgander dragged her into deep waters and gave her, as she called it beforehand, a well-seasoned ass whooping. Joshua, what are your thoughts, my friend? did I call you by your full government? I apologize.
Jake Paul's Impact on Boxing
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No, that's what's there.
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That's what's there. No, um I'm cool with it. So I thought i thought it there's there's an impressive nature to her going 12 rounds for three minutes defending her title.
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So that in itself deserves not the performance. Yeah, I thought she, for the most part, dominated her. the opponent that she was in with and uh you could tell by the end of the fight just given the face of her opponent so i think that kind of showed how the fight went from an overall perspective uh and alicia did she did pace herself so It ended up going the distance. She had some moments where it looked as though she might get her opponent out of there, but she wasn't able to do so. And I think that came down to some of the pacing. So decent performance from her from an overall perspective. Hey, i agree. If the women want to go three rounds, they can.
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And I say it was solid and impressive in doing that, I guess, on this larger stage. But most certainly there are women out there that I know for fact can do the three minute rounds. So just being around the sport, then you know this is a thing. So it's just a matter of when will the when will something major change, I guess you can say. Or I guess you can push it as you noted there as champion and make it sort of a mandate for you on the individual side as the boxer as well. So
Promoting Women in Boxing
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so again, solid performance there. And I want to note that Alicia was cleared. But if I recall correctly, she was cleared by the WBC.
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Yep. The same one that didn't give her this two minute, three minute round right there. So I don't know if that's full clearance, but that is a sanctioning body and providing clearance.
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Interesting. I mean, the WBC has been in an inordinate amount of controversy lately, from the Terrence Crawford, which they basically pushed him into retirement, to all this other bullshit that they're going through, people dropping their title left and right. uh bum gardner here in that case uh i know two people that i would have loved to see and i'm pretty sure i speak for clubber d on this because we mentioned it both times three minutes would have been those katie taylor amanda serrano fights that's what i would have loved to see three minutes like girls another minute to the have to change the outcome for sure they want that papi chunia what's your thoughts yeah man y'all know i said it beforehand um I think that there needs to be like some sort of boxing um boxers association for women and men. And i think the organizations need to get together and actually ask the women what it is that they want
Equality and Diverse Audiences in Boxing
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to do. Like, what do you guys want? You know, how can we help make this sport better together? Right. Just ask them, because like I said, you know, we've interviewed, you know, countless numbers of women and we've yet to have a single one say that they did not want.
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to go through three minute rounds. We always ask them that. um And we we do know that there was one person who objects to it. That's Katie Taylor. That's because she's the juggernaut, bitch. You know what saying? She gets tired. She run her head into everything. know saying? She's a professional brick breaker. She just go around just breaking bricks with her forehead. That's why it's tough like it is. You know what I mean?
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But look, man, Alicia Baumgardner, man. That's off to you. I'm going to tell everybody just like this. If you sat there and listened to that bogus-ass commentary, you would actually think that they didn't have they they weren't doing a good job. But look, this is the second, the number two, the second women's fight that has had three-minute rounds. The other one was with Amanda Serrano and another girl, and they threw probably 2,000 punches total. like They threw 1,000 punches each, right? So dudes ain't doing that. But let's talk about the Alicia Baumgartner fight, right? So three minute rounds, amazing for me because it allowed it allow the women to not have to play rock'em sock'em and just get in there and just bang it out. You actually get to see the skill set. You actually get to see somebody get tired and make mistakes. You get to see the difference in skill level with that extra minute as well. So the only thing that I see that that maybe could be worked on is like her trainer has to give her some more information in the corner
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Because, you know, dudes that are fighting three minute rounds, they know, OK, look, at this point, I can step on the gas because there's such a big difference and get them out of there because now I know all their tricks. i've I've pocketed that over the last five, six rounds. Right. So now I'm to step on the gas to get them out of there. We didn't see that with Alicia. We've seen her stay in the same gear.
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You know what i mean? So she stayed in the same gear the whole fight. But I thought it was great, man. um I thought it was good for
Critique of Jake Paul's Strategy
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women's boxing. um And for all y'all haters out there, look, man, yeah, she shot her shot at Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua shot his shot at her.
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So what? they They're professional boxers. Both of them are single. Let them do their thing. I know everybody's out here, you know what I'm saying, me gazing and, you know, this and that and third, you know what mean?
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But good to you. If you can go if you can go ahead, add it to the resume if you can. I mean, they was both sitting full side. They didn't look like – mean, they looked like they looked good together as a couple. If that's what they want to do, let them do it. Hey, sit. If you had another AB, he'd give you all the info. There's just some comments here. Salute Technique 539. We appreciate you, brother, for you tuning in and everybody. As well, Papa Trunio did put in that link in there for y'all.
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in the comments so it is there if y'all want to join that predictions league uh shout out bobby g says one wrong punch can alter your life even in two minutes let these women fight that let the women fight let these women fight they know let these women fight they know what they signed up for i i i missed that comma there um Yo, man, we ain't judging you, man. Ain't nobody making you hooked on phonics jokes.
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Let these women fight. They know what
Influencers' Impact on Boxing
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they signed up for. True. I mean, that is true. Again, I think the champions should be able to choose there. and And Bobby G will hit me with a comment, with a comma next time. So I have i love you. bro All right. Boss says, I got to go to sleep. Take care. Hey, appreciate you for tuning No, Boss. Stay up.
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Have a good night. Hold up a second. don't know where you're coming from, but that's got to be Shakur or Teofimo. I'm not sure where this question came from, but hey, don't know what it is. Yaz Cher, salute for tuning in. Anybody on this one, I'm sure this is some important sort of insider.
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Curb. All I got to say, Curb. Hey, man, Bob's going to have explain that RoboCop outfit he got on. That's something different right there.
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No, bro, I can see the picture when it pop up. They do like a RoboCop outfit. It does like RoboCop. Murphy!
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That's tremendous. the hairline like them Yeah, again, champions, choing but yeah, overall, um Alicia Baumgartner just well-versed.
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more skilled and more ready for that type of match. That other girl was not ready and they had her up to be, and it just did not turn out that way. So anyways, all right, anybody watching, hit that like button. i have keep it moving. Make sure you tap in with everybody here. What do you think?
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It is in the comments. Do you think that women should fight two versus three minute rounds? um You know, let us know. This is a really hot debate on the interwebs. It is my friend. I know, you know, grammar. I know I was just, you know, i like messing with you. um is better though I do appreciate it.
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All right, cool. Now, we have to move into what was you know the the main event, but also the main clown show, if you will, for some of us. What was put out to us to be an influencer turned pro boxer, a influencer who, yes, may not have fought any true boxers, had fought enough good competition, we were told, to be able to be in sort of in in this sort of situation. He tried to fight the smaller man in Tank Davis. That didn't work out. He had to go to bigger competition, being turned down by multiple people, until Anthony Joshua took him up after being previously knocked out by Daniel Dubois back in 2024. So he was coming off that layoff of his own. The problem is Anthony Joshua is a true heavyweight, four pounds ah taller and about, I don't even, 50 pounds heavier probably, something like that.
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So what we learned very, very quickly, and you could see it, gentlemen, when they came into the ring, was the stature of Joshua. The first thing that came to mind when I saw them lock up as they say in wrestling I know they don't lock up but oh shit he sh trimped i I thought this was Glass Joe versus Mike Tyson like that's in Mike Tyson's punch out that's what it looked like to me I was like oh he's about to get his ass demolished But we also know Jake Paul said he was going to run and try to stay away as a wave as far as possible from being hit whatsoever.
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Not only did he do that, but he did it for a lot longer than people expected, which made this seem to be more of the clown show as it went on later and later, as Anthony Joshua himself before the fight said that it would be ah a a disappointment to him if he didn't knock him out in the first round. Papi Chunyeo, you were a very, very loud about this on the Boxing Champs Picks group. Talk to us. be Your thoughts on this fight. Yeah, man. I mean, you know, just to recap what I said in the la in the previous show, I said that if Joshua didn't knock him down or out with the first, you know, the first brick that he landed on him, that is the
Financial Implications of Influencer Fights
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fix is in. Like, you know what I mean? that's what That's how I saw it. I saw that if
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out You know, this is supposed to be a real fight. There's a lot of money. You know, a lot of money is up and it seemed like this was supposed to be a real fight. That's how they were. That's how they were selling it. They were selling us wolf ticket tickets, obviously.
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You know, that's what he does. He sells wolf tickets. He's not he's not a serious dude. He's a good businessman, but he's not a serious dude. You know, um basically um what we saw was. ah we saw the We saw the exclusive introduction of the up duck butter duck butter flavored lip balm.
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um
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aj version duck butter flavored lip balm um will be dropping because all we seen was your boy topping him off the whole fight oh god he had his head in my man crotch more than he did standing up bro like i mean what did he come to do boy he said oil him him up he said his his his old lady said if you don't do it i'm do it so he said look i'm gonna take I take it 13 times before I let you do it, baby. you Please don't leave me for him. I can't you know what i can't compete with that.
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you know just So he did it. Duck butter flavored lip balm. Anthony Joshua verse. Call it the AJ duck butter lip balm. that's what ah That's what we got out of that fight, bro. Takedowns.
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You know i'm saying? Facing the crotch. Man, they say he got his tonsils removed before the fight so he can get it right. Yeah. ah No, no. Gobbled him up, bro. they Come on, man.
00:18:49
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that Like I said, let's listen, but a serious note, he gobbled him up. But on a serious note, though, like we got to get a dude credit, whether he's a scumbag or not, we got to get a scumbag credit for lacing him up and getting in the ring with a real, real boxer, a real heavyweight, a dude who could actually, you know,
00:19:11
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could have broke his skull. You know, we talk about that later, but you know, he got in there with him and it was a track meet. He's a runner. He's a track star. You know what saying? It was a track meet. And you know, it's just, I told you guys, man, I said, we're going to end up talking about this dude and this fight more than we actually talked about the women who he says that he is supposed to be putting at the forefront of this thing. He had the women fighting on YouTube y'all.
00:19:41
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Understand that. They wasn't even on Netflix. He had them fighting on YouTube. You know what I'm saying? And if let's say they're, they we don't know what the numbers are, but they're saying there's like a upwards of $180 million dollars that was out there between the two of them, right?
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I guarantee you, if you add up all the salaries for the girls, that they didn't even get a single million. What are we doing?
Boxing's Historical Spectacles
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you What are we doing? You mean aside from the Baumgartner and DuBois fight, right? Because they were both on the Netflix cards.
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We're talking about the bread. These ah these are prize fighters. They signed up to be prize fighters from their from their you know preteens. You know I mean? So you put them all together, you don't get a million dollars for their salaries probably.
00:20:26
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so what what i mean what do we Bro, million, dollars you can't give them a million dollars bro? What we doing? I mean, seriously. I'll try to get the move up. That's really how I feel about it. i mean that's that There's nobody. Undercards ain't going to get that much, even in men. They shouldn't have the undercards. We had a 50-year-old MMA. I'm with you on that, but people know who they are.
00:20:50
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You know what i'm saying? If this was just a card to showcase young talent, yeah, I get that. But you got to get people to come buy tickets and put asses in seats. Not many people know who Daniel DeVos' sister is. So if you put her on the main card, who's going buy a ticket? Where the money coming from? And not many people knew who Anthony Joshua was. That's why there is a ah people that's why fire there's a viral thing going on with all the women.
00:21:13
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That's all they're talking about is AJ. They act like this was the first time they've seen him. They thirsty. Boxing fans aren't majority women. You know what I'm saying? The dudes who bought seats getting that place knew Anthony Joshua was. the people I'm all for it. I want you with with women getting money. i'm well I want that to happen. However,
00:21:30
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I can't put on Sally from down the street if she's just an amateur and put her in the main car because nobody knows who the hell she is. You got to put the donkey in there to watch the donkey fight the lion. And maybe somebody is going to see that person and and make it bill because I looked at the numbers like just just with Bungarner alone. OK, well, she fought Michaela Mayer ESPN three years ago. It's at 812 viewers on YouTube. okay I looked it up. Now, three days ago, Netflix put the clip up. They're already at $308K in three days.
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So that's exposure that she's going to get for that next fight that she can catapult and be and justify being her own main event. Well, you said Netflix, right? Yeah. But they didn't fight on Netflix. They fought on YouTube.
00:22:14
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No, no, no. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about Alicia. I'm talking about Bumgarner. Yeah, but this event was supposed to... Jake Paul's cards are supposed to be for women fighters to get their exposure. This wasn't a woman this wasn' a women's fight card. We all knew that.
00:22:28
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Yes, it was. No, wasn't. They were supposed to be Chris Wybin and Ernst and Silva. Okay. Bumgarner was the co-main event. Nobody knew who the undercard was. They didn't promote that. they We know who the undercard is, right? but Because we watch boxing, but average person saw Anderson Silva and saw Tyron Woodley. And they're like, oh whoa, they're boxing.
00:22:47
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You know what I'm saying? they ja do Okay, let me ask you let me ask you this, though, because I know you were heavy on the MMA side, right? would you Would you prefer to have uneducated fans that are m MMA fans over in the boxing lane talking talking serious business to us guys who actually know what boxing really is about?
00:23:05
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or Or would you want boxing fans who don't know anything that much about MMA, takedowns, you know, all that stuff that goes with MMA stuff. Would you want some some boxers to go and perpetrate over in the MMA world and bring their fans with them? Like imagine imagine a Tank Davis fan, the Tank Davis fans coming over there to m MMA.
00:23:26
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I mean, they already got them with Jon Jones fans, but are you talking me as a promoter or is actually just a fan? As a fan.
Women's Boxing Contracts and Promoters
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To be honest with you, I don't care because i don't if I hear some dumb shit, I'm not going engage. going walk away. I think they're here already. know what I'm saying? They're already here. You hear what they say about Ryan Garcia?
00:23:42
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yeah you you You hear that. So let's not act like boxing fans. We ain't got the dumbasses already. You know what i'm saying? We got people calling Devin Haney, Shakur Seed, runners, but they won't say shit about Jake Paul running around the damn ring. You know what I'm saying? So we already got it.
00:23:55
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So it's there's not that many – We watch boxing after dark. We watch Tuesday night fights. We watch the fights on Friday night fights on ESPN. A lot of these guys didn't watch that stuff. They only know, you know, the top people. You know what I'm saying? Tank Davis would have beat anybody. Oh, they're scared to fight him. That's what they'll say. They'll say stuff like that. Or they'll say, this is how I know a boxing fan. They say, oh, yeah, that guy i made a lot of money.
00:24:18
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Is it yours? Why you care? Does he got talent? That's what I care about. Different question. Would you? Okay, so do you do you think it was okay for Jake Paul? to fight 135 pound fighter and you know, his 212 pound self.
00:24:34
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Stupid. so Okay. So then you got 212 pound Jake Paul fighting, uh, a disadvantaged Anthony Joshua, they made him do a weight cut so that he wouldn't come in for any, for those of you don't know, heavyweights don't be doing weight cuts like that. They be putting the food in, you get what I'm saying there, you know, that they're building. So Now you got something at this level, but he disadvantaged. He put Joshua at a disadvantage.
00:25:02
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I think that has to do with the sanctioning in Florida because Logan Paul had to cut for Mayweather. It would have to be a fight. So I think that has to be with the state. You know, certain states have different ah rules on that stuff. So you cannot outweigh somebody by a certain amount. i'm I could be wrong for their particular but thing, but I know for Logan and Floyd, Logan had to cut weight for that fight to happen, for it to be sanctioned. So I think it might, it could be something like that, but it could be, you know, he had to cut, but I think that's dumb. But if I'm making, if I'm making 50 mil, I'll cut.
00:25:32
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fancyy man that i don't I don't like it. Deontay Waddle was 214 and Tyson Fury was in there about 272, 290 on fight night. You know what I mean? So, you know, that's the heavyweight division and he's fighting in the big boys division.
Spectacle vs. Legitimate Boxing
00:25:45
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You know, so if we want to, if we want to, if this guy wants us to give him full credit for what he's done, then I'm gonna give him full credit for the clown shit for sure. oh because that's what I see. I see clown shit, and I don't like to do moonlighting and boxing.
00:26:00
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So I just got – I'm just – you know, i'm ah um'm I'm an advocate for women. You know, I'm always advocate, you know, for women because their voice is not being – it's not loud enough over here on the internet, and we're trying to give them a platform so they can come and get their get their opinions off because they're participating in the sport too. they got their' Their say needs to be heard.
00:26:21
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Yeah, let me get some comments real quick, and we'll get right back into this. um Just make sure we're giving shout-outs to everybody. Thank you, Peach, for your always being there to correct me. I really appreciate
00:26:32
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D-Club, your brother, three-minute rounds. Why not? I think we all agree. Shout-out to you all. Salute for tuning in. um Bonds 2.0, true Paul deserves respect.
00:26:45
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Let's see. Bobby G, Netflix owns the footage. um Also says 240 pounds isn't a disadvantage when your opponent is 216. Very true.
00:26:58
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yeah um And then Ba says Haney is just not a finisher. Going back to the Haney mention there in that conversation. Look, this is what I'll say. ah Because Clubber D and I have had plenty of episodes on this because we did advocate we Well, we always advocate for women, but did advocate for Jake Paul's involvement in boxing solely on the fact that he was promoting women's boxing in such a good way.
00:27:24
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um Now, if you're telling me every woman on the card wasn't on the Netflix, but at least you had Dubois and Bumgarner on the Netflix, who would be only two I would expect to be on?
00:27:37
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the Netflix card because Netflix also only gives you a certain amount of time for you to feature enough bouts. That's why all the wrestling companies do pre-shows on YouTube because they can feature all their other people like that. That being said, I i completely agree with you. I think women need a bigger voice in this sport. um Jake Paul has been that as much as we may hate him as a boxer.
00:27:59
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ah But again, hopefully they do get more promotion. Amanda Serrano will be the vice president of his company after her fight. So hopefully we'll see more and more of that going forward. But I think we but we can all agree that women deserve more in the boxing world when it gets to the actual fight in itself. I agree with you exactly. ah Jake Paul was was oiled up, ready to perform fellatio any chance he had.
Audience Engagement and New Viewers
00:28:23
Speaker
oh my man. um So it was it was a game. it was a troll. He trolled the shit out of all of us. He sat there. He stuck his tongue out when he was getting hit. He ran. I remember in the third round, he had three for 12 connected while Joshua had five for 17. And I just looked at myself and I was like, why am I doing this? I was like, could be out on the cruise open bar just having a lot of fun right now, but I'm in the room watching this fight.
00:28:52
Speaker
ah But in the end, we all got what wanted. We wanted to see him get his ass knocked out. He got knocked out. Did we see it in the time we wanted? No. I said KO3.
00:29:03
Speaker
He wanted KO1. All of us wanted us to see it early. Yes, it's a stain that it didn't happen earlier. But in the end, we did get to see him get knocked out, which is what people have been begging for for years. Is it not, Josh?
00:29:14
Speaker
You haven't talked. Come on, get in here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, i I'm with you there in that regard. I thought let's not kid ourselves. This is one of the greatest heavyweight bouts we've ever seen. If we're being honest with each other.
00:29:28
Speaker
All right. Let's not put that aside. I'm just kidding, folks. I was waiting for the other two. I'm just kidding. Come on. But here, so I have a few things, of course.
00:29:41
Speaker
I've said this before. The novelty aspect of boxing has long been a thing, even going back to the 1800s and prior to that, really, even when you're talking to bare knuckle world. So you've always had these kind of weird situations in the sport where you would have traveling champions and they would open or issue challenger challenges to anyone, for instance. ah I brought this up in the last one. I brought up ah John L. Sullivan. he A lot of his fights, if you look at BoxRec, you'll see his official record, and you'll see probably about 40 fights there.
00:30:15
Speaker
But that being said, he's estimated to have had around 500 fights. because he would travel to these different locations, theaters, et cetera, and challenge any man available for to stand with him for four rounds. And if you could do so, you would win a certain amount of money, which would have been pretty substantial for you back in the day there. But that being said,
00:30:39
Speaker
The or times have shifted somewhat, so shifted ah a bit more, and we're now in this social media stage.
Promoters' Role in Women's Boxing
00:30:48
Speaker
And i think that while boxing has continued to go on, certain elements of it no longer, or many people, don't they no longer know about some of these things.
00:31:02
Speaker
older times and old novelty and things of that nature. And then there are different instances we've seen over the years where you might have a Muhammad Ali versus Antonio Inoki. But those are huge names that were just relative to their sports and all that stuff. But the social media world. That was groundbreaking at the time because they were two other legends in their own sports though. Yeah. like the ends were yeah too led k So the social media aspect takes it to a new level because if we really look at it, let's say if we we use 2005 as sort of a marker because that's when a lot around when a lot of the big social media platforms took off.
00:31:41
Speaker
And now you have these individuals, these stars that are essentially like stars or celebrities of the past that we would only see on TV and stuff.
00:31:52
Speaker
And these individuals off of social media, they are, they have a larger following than Some celebrities and things of that nature that we know of, you know, I can think of some that I absolutely knew nothing about.
00:32:06
Speaker
I show speed and this guy, the top streamer on YouTube and all of that stuff. Apparently Jake Paul. I actually had never seen anything with Jake Paul prior to him boxing when he boxed. up Nick Robinson. His first fight, yeah, whatever. But I knew who Logan Paul was.
00:32:25
Speaker
I just didn't know that connection was there because I never saw anything with Jake Paul or whatnot. So I didn't know who the KSI guy was when he fought Logan Paul. But I would see him on these Mayweather prediction videos on the Mayweather YouTube channel.
00:32:40
Speaker
a And I'd be like, who is this KSI? He was a British guy, but I thought he was just someone who... Maybe was boxing and on the come up whatever. I say all that to say we've now reached that stage where, hey, these individuals, they have a lot of buy buying power when you think about it from a social standpoint. And because of such...
00:33:03
Speaker
They're able to come in and maybe skip the line in a traditional sense as far as what some may have to do to get to this point, to get a fight with Anthony Joshua. If you're just a heavyweight on the come up, you're not going to get that, of course.
00:33:18
Speaker
you got you You will have to have done something, had some accolades in the sport. You know what I'm saying? But as Clubbers are noting there, money talks. So I do agree that there's a financial aspect of it. And when that happens, not that it's a good thing necessarily, but when you bring those finances in, they'll money.
00:33:38
Speaker
pretty much whatever has happened because i i alluded to previously i know at one point hami munguia when he was on the come up he was not widely known but starting to build the name he wanted to fight triple g as a replacement for an opponent i think that ultimately ultimately got injured or something for a fight and the nevada athletic commission denied him that opportunity That being said, would this same commission deny Jake Paul an opportunity to fight with Anthony Joshua when we know that that difference between Tommy McGee and Triple G versus Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua is...
00:34:20
Speaker
you know, a vast margin right there, you know, talking about Grand Canyon style. So it is an interesting thing that we're at this
Promotional Landscape's Impact
00:34:29
Speaker
stage now. And I i suspect we'll see more. They've carved out a neat niche in terms of misfits boxing. And apparently people are paying for it.
00:34:39
Speaker
I think these are not necessarily boxing fans that are, know, you know diehards or who will follow the sport for the regular or young boxer who's coming out of the amateur ranks and all of that stuff and making waves i think they're in it just for that sort of environment event type situation and then seeing some of their streamers youtubers or whomever they follow pretty much fight because I mean, there's something entertaining about that to a certain degree, I suppose one would say. But ah that um I think that's kind of just the stage. I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. Now, on the side of the women.
00:35:23
Speaker
I do one thing that ah Ernest mentioned that I definitely agree with in terms of the purse aspect of it. in turn As far as Anthony Joshua making, let's say $60 million. dollars I think that's what it or somewhere to that.
00:35:40
Speaker
Jake Paul making somewhere near a hundred million dollars or something of that nature. And those are such large sums. So the question is for those that were on the undercards,
00:35:55
Speaker
Do they benefit as lucratively for them from a career perspective as those two in that single fight? Because I'd imagine everyone on the undercard hasn't made as much as those two have made in this single fight right here.
00:36:12
Speaker
And that is something of question there. If you want to... push that push the issue of hey should these women have more if they're fighting on this card maybe your purse is reduced say you don't get a hundred million you get 50 million and then the interest is dispersed to some of those uh others now of course we know you're the name bringing them in but also you're that power player changing the sport changing the paradigm there for women in the sport of boxing But, you know, that's a larger issue. And I would certainly like to look into that a bit further. But I do agree that I think Jake Paul, all of these women signing with him, that is saying something, whether that's about the promoters, the other promoters that are out there, or just how boxing operates in itself and what they're getting from it. Because, know,
00:37:04
Speaker
Amanda Serrano, who's one of the top in the sport on the women's side, she speaks nothing but essentially praises for
Jake Paul's Controversial Career
00:37:12
Speaker
him. And of course, she is the big name fighter that he has under the but under his umbrella right now.
00:37:19
Speaker
So that makes it interesting. You know, and there's a lot of other women who are some of the top in their divisions and relatively around it that have signed with them. So there's something to that. Maybe this is a this is the promoter's thing.
00:37:34
Speaker
Maybe they're getting what they can't get from these traditional boxing promoters. And they hold fault in that as well, I would say. Well, what they got is Jake Paul can sell boxing, stage boxing, promote boxing, sustain attention around it in ways that few people can because of that social media presence, because of that, that not even a boxing promoter, but just promotion.
00:38:00
Speaker
in general, marketing, digital marketing, social media. I mean, you can say whatever you want about him, but the fact that the two of them are bringing in a combined, you know, $180 million dollars for this fight, ah yeah, I can guarantee it's not going to the lower fighters. I tried to look it up while y'all were talking. I could not find any official figures for the the the the fighters from Baumgartner and below. Because they're probably not making nearly as much, and they don't want that to be publicized. I did find out Tyron Woodley made $2 million as a late replacement. Anderson Silva, $500,000. Come on. And now, bro, see, listen. There you go. I'm telling you the news. You said Tyron made $2 million. This dude has been in two boxing fights, and he's been ass up.
00:38:51
Speaker
he's been asked up diddy style you think he was there's no way tyron woodley that's why i that bro he got he got two million that's wow yeah we ain't doing that i'm not i'm not knocking you up i'm just saying man it's just it's it just it just proves my point even i don't i don't know how legit that that might be That might be off. It said Anderson Silver got $500,000 and 35%? Whatever they got, they got more than them female fighters.
00:39:25
Speaker
Look, what I'm saying is that they would not have had that fight at all if it wasn't
Boxing's Financial Ecosystem
00:39:31
Speaker
for Jake Paul. There would be no $190 million for anyone. None of these fighters wouldn't have had shit if wasn't for him. So as much as I don't like the guy, as much as I think he's ruining boxing, if you want to have $200 million on the table, you need someone like him or a Conor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather. There's not $200 million on the table. That's the point.
00:39:54
Speaker
That's why I'm saying he's pimping the sport. There is not $200 million on the That money is – he's cashing out and AJ is cashing out. And those two MMA guys are cashing out. None of those – those aren't boxers aside from AJ. You know what I'm saying? so they're they're they're going to the bank.
00:40:11
Speaker
For for a what, man? it's a It's a clown. It's a clown show. This show, 100%, is a clown show. i'm i'm wondering I'm not denying that at all. um I will say, just for my quick little rundown the fight, it reminded me of... ah Rocky, when he fought Thunderlips, Hulk Hogan.
00:40:30
Speaker
You know i'm saying? When he looked up at him, instead of bench pressing him, he was grabbing his leg like he was Jeff Van Gundy and and and and which part was ah Alonzo Mourning. So it was it was like he just ran and all that shit. but But besides the point, besides all that, when I say he does well for women's fighting is when he's behind Amanda for the first Katie Taylor fight when they when they sold out the Madison Square Garden. He's behind women boxing when he puts on an all-women card that he's done. That's the type of stuff I'm talking about. I'm i'm okay with him doing. This stuff, when he puts them on an undercard, yeah, cool. Yes, he can showcase them or just showcase one fight that, like a man, Bumgarden, he's trying to make her a name like he did... ah
00:41:10
Speaker
Serrano, because Harry Kane Taylor had all those viewers because everyone loved their fight before Mike Tyson fight. It was pride fight at night. So that stuff I respect. There's other stuff I can't stand. I don't, I don't, I don't,
00:41:21
Speaker
I'm not a i'm not a good with that. i think anybody is that's a boxing fan, what he's doing. But however, I can appreciate what he's trying to do for the women. Because when he does those cards, he ain't acting all wild, acting all crazy. He's letting them do that. He ain't Puffy dancing in the front. He's being Suge Knight, letting them rap on their stuff. Now, on his stuff, he acts a buffoon,
Future of Boxing Promotions
00:41:39
Speaker
obviously. But on their stuff, he doesn't do all that shit. And that's why I don't i don't mind him doing that.
00:41:43
Speaker
No, he is, though. all of All of his promotion is all is's all bad is bad, bro. It's ridiculous. I didn't see him. I saw them two piping that fight up. well they had their car no no I'm talking about like, so he's in charge of the event, right?
00:41:58
Speaker
he's the he's the He's the head man on the event. For his event. I'm not talking about his event. I'm talking about their event for the women. For the women, he's in the background. But he's promoting it. It's his company.
00:42:09
Speaker
And they're fighting for that. That's what I'm talking about. For his shit, yes. I want you on that. But when you say it's a women's show, that a up he he in back like Shugnight. He ain't dancing in front like Puffy. No, no, no. He is Puffy. He all up in the background in the ring, putting belts on, dancing in the video. Yeah, he he is. p did he wouldn't pay to see i a promoter they in there afterwards you know there a lot of i will know ringing there afterwards he is the boxing was only year but and i wanted to note there's two things there of course um
00:42:41
Speaker
or at least the firsting i would say is i think yeah there's a element of a few different things but it was only last year That, and I know this because the fighting Marine, Stephanie Simon, she fought on this card. There was this card on Brinks TV at the beginning of last year. And this is where...
00:43:03
Speaker
Stephanie made her debut and basically Alicia Baumgoner, this was her last fight, I believe, prior to this one, or it might have been one right the one before that. But I think it was the last one prior to this one. And the purse bid at the time, which was, if I'm not mistaken, $500,000 was the highest that a women's fight had ever received.
00:43:25
Speaker
in boxing history from all indications and people you can look this up but this was on brinks tv which was a network that's no longer around but it was started by this guy who was the sports science guy on yeah espn when that started to get developed then he and eventually sold that to espn right and so just think about that five hundred thousand dollars was the highest purse bid at that particular time for a women's fight now I suppose that on this particular car, everyone who fought on there, they may have made the, I don't know for sure, but they may have made the highest payday of their career. Just think about it from a boxing standpoint, all of them that were involved in all of that stuff.
00:44:11
Speaker
So I guess there is, some solace there in the sense that if that is the case, you do get the highest that you've been paid. Now there's still that question of could there have been more what say some sacrifices from the person up top.
Progress and Challenges in Women's Boxing
00:44:28
Speaker
And also it'd be interesting to know that what say they have that 100 million or say Jake Paul made 100 million. He is the co-owner along with his partner there of MVP promotions, like what operationally from a cost perspective comes out of that? Do they get this solely like, Hey, you're getting this amount and say he does get it. So solely what,
00:44:56
Speaker
comes of i guess his finances as far as the mvp operations maybe all of that is covered by the different sponsors that you have maybe that is covered by netflix those are the types of things that you look for of course sponsorship the promoter or sponsorships the network and all of that stuff to help offset those costs then you have the fighter purchase so on and so forth so that would be interesting to know as well But I will say some strides have been made, but certainly on the women's side, we're not where we want to be because
00:45:31
Speaker
is certainly not that It's certainly not the case outside of MVP promotions in terms of some of the top women that are there. Though we did see Clarissa Shields sign an $8 million dollar deal there with Salita Promotions, which is a smaller promotion, but bigger in, I guess you could say, the network of boxing, but smaller relative to the largest promoters that are out there.
00:45:53
Speaker
Now, she is at the top of the women's sport and it's $8 million for her there, which, of course, I'll take it. We'll take it. A lucrative amount and all of that stuff. But served still, just look at the numbers. that i think that's multi-fight. That's a contract from a multi-fight perspective.
00:46:12
Speaker
And just think about of a person making $60 million in one fight or $100 million in another fight. It's just mind-blowing in some sense. How, bro? this this is I'm telling you, man, this this has this the stuff that he's doing, it feels like it feels like you know it feels like there's a mob or there's some type of you know i'm saying some type of secret society in here that's that's money laundering and washing our money and washing their money through the sport. you know I'm going to keep it
Entertainment Value of Influencer Fights
00:46:42
Speaker
real. and wouldn that would but limited that you know i'm saying like how How do you have that much money
00:46:47
Speaker
to just just give away to people You know what I'm saying Like, how do you do that? I i know who's really winning. Intuit taxes. They're winning. Because when they tax that $50 million or that $94 million, they're going to get paid.
00:47:00
Speaker
They were the largest sponsor. They were the largest sponsor that was on there. I'm so glad you said that because the governments of the United States and especially in the United Kingdom for Joshua are about to tax. 67% of what you
00:47:25
Speaker
They ain't even got to push when they do. do it They just sit down and it fall out. Government just be out here assaulting folks for no reason. But when you said this, ah yale I think you're wrong. I think Turkey would work with Jake Paul.
00:47:39
Speaker
I think he would because I think he is about money as well. For your sake, i hope he do because I'm going roast both of them. For real. He talked about Tom and Jerry with Shakur Stevenson.
00:47:52
Speaker
what you what what did What did Jake Paul do? Jake Paul was really, that was some really Tom and Jerry type shit right there. yeah you know time Listen, I promise you, man, I got to bring this up because that's the type of shit I do. But no black person in this world will have the opportunity to do what Jake Paul is doing. He got the complexion for the protection.
00:48:13
Speaker
I'm telling you that right now. he does there are but plenty of funny There are plenty of funny people out there. Cat Williams is a funny dude. he said he could run the fade with Kevin Hart. He said, what you want do want to We could put gloves on or what? but you Did that happen?
00:48:27
Speaker
But I just think about what Josh put out there earlier with KSI's Misfits Boxing. That's huge. They got millions of followers. They just came all the way to Nashville and put on a show. And I would i saw it. And they were the whole place was packed.
00:48:40
Speaker
So these influencers, even though they don't know how to box, even though when you watch them, you're just watching to laugh at them because they're they're shitty boxers and you just want to see them knock each other out, it sells. And it makes tons and tons of money.
00:48:54
Speaker
they should do that jake paul should park he should park his ass over in the misfits as far as fighting and boxing and he should promote women's boxing like you can do both but just don't parade around in the real boxing and try to make everybody think that you're a real boxer that's the this is like it's like a wolf in sheep clothing you get what i'm saying the problem you i like to think about it like this so people when fighters typically their first six fights first 10 fights, whatever, they're usually fighting dudes that got records like two and 55. They've been knocked out 47 times and they're going to fight a person like that, right?
00:49:32
Speaker
This dude, Jake Paul, has so much money that he was able to do what the amateurs are doing, except for he's doing it with the legends of combat.
Regulation Challenges in Boxing
00:49:43
Speaker
Bro, that shit is bogus as fuck. Well, it's ver that on itlas it's not. i at My bad, Josh. I'll say this. no I will say um who did Lomachenko fight in his first five fights? So, you know, he fought.
00:49:59
Speaker
Champions got a world title shot with a second, third fight or whatever. And that's yeah got like, how the hell he get this? but Nobody else get that opportunity. I know, but but Jake Paul gets it because on his Instagram, he got 28 million followers.
00:50:09
Speaker
Fox is in a state where they need fans and they don't care how they're going to get them. Okay. If Jake Paul was was Ronnie from Wegmans, they wouldn't care. But he Jake Paul with 28 million Instagram followers and don't know what he got on Twitter and the other stuff. They know he has high budget sponsors. Now we say Complexity for Protection.
00:50:25
Speaker
I showed Speed was in the Royal Rumble two years ago. How the hell is he getting the Royal Rumble? Okay. Well, I mean, he has 21,000 people watching him take a nap. Exactly. So it's not about their background. It's about how many eyes are on them and how many, um how much money are they getting from these, these people? Cause these companies just want the money. They don't care about the fans. They just want the money. I can't do I can't do this with y'all, man. All money ain't good money. I can't itt know we know it. can't do it. It's what they're doing. It's the reality of what's going on. I mean, I'm going to call it out. It is what it is.
00:50:59
Speaker
I don't like it, but um what am I going to the one hit wonders Maybe the one hit wonders were only one hit wonders because they didn't want to have them dudes go get them dildos out the dishwasher and jam them in for them to make another track.
00:51:13
Speaker
then i rap He couldn't rap. He stole that. he stole that Do you get what i'm saying? so i just don't I don't think you should do a deal with the devil in order just to just to get money, man. When you sell when you sell out like that, you they're absolutely he's a vampire. We let the wrong one in and he's sucking the life out of boxing.
00:51:32
Speaker
and all anybody's talking about it for ranking them blame the wba a for ranking them number four that's crazy okay that's the problem it's it's it's like i like i just said it's the it's the promoters and the belt the commissions that are letting him do this because they're getting that money that the commissions are Yeah, so that's a larger part of boxing. And one of the issues that you mentioned earlier, ah unified commission or something, that's not happened in the history of the sport and doesn't look likely to happen unless you want...
00:52:04
Speaker
Dana White to come in, make those changes to the Ali Act and then it comes about like that, you know, folks, is if that's what you seeking, then that could be it. But that being said, that likely won't happen because these states, much like politics, they want those rights and control there on in on a state's basis to handle things there from a jurisdictional standpoint.
Jake Paul's Evolving Role
00:52:28
Speaker
within what they control and i say that to uh say uh i brought up this sort of i don't know if it's an analogy or what and and it's sort of i guess an unfortunate thought in the sport but let's say you have a champion let's say you're uh from you're from Omaha, Nebraska, was just used Terrence Crawford, for example for example. Now, he had them fought a ton of fights there, but i just say you have any random person there. They're from some smaller town, even smaller than that. If you have a guy a woman who is...
00:53:10
Speaker
considered to be the top of their sport, they just so happen to win a world title or whatever it may be. There is incentive for that person to compete and operate in your town, state, commission, jurisdiction or whatever, because of the fact that, of course, this is going to bring people in. This is going to bring money. This is going to help to generate things. in that particular area or or whatever. So there's an incentive there. And that makes you think about how certain things are allowed it to take place. Of course, Florida is one of those states where a lot of things can happen that are
00:53:47
Speaker
sort of foul by comparison in other areas. But Florida is a place where you can pull off a Anthony Joshua versus Jake Paul as a ah legitimate fight from a sanctioning standpoint.
00:53:59
Speaker
Now, that being said, once the numbers are added up, I wouldn't doubt that a state that may have more strict regulations i guess you could say i wouldn't doubt that they would find some kind of work around or whatever to make it happen as well because of that financial aspect those wolf and not and that's well yeah i don't agree with it i don't think that's a good thing and sort of like what you said there um there is all money isn't good money but I don't think he's going anywhere. Jake, he hasn't been flashing the pin in the sense of coming in and then he's out.
00:54:36
Speaker
He has seemingly made an effort to do things in the sport and can continue to train and all of this stuff. We're still having his fights here, i guess, five years in says because I guess he started in 2020.
00:54:49
Speaker
So he's still around. How long he'll continue to go? Maybe he'll get in the background at some point and all that stuff. And then we'll get to see how his impact is without him being sort of the centerpiece on the card and all
Changing Boxing Audiences
00:55:05
Speaker
of that stuff. And we do get a sense of some of that with most valuable prospects.
00:55:10
Speaker
When those promotions take place, I think they well run and the production value is a top tier. Now that could be because it's not just him and it's that other guy who I can't think his name, who's like a co-founder for him.
00:55:24
Speaker
He seems to have an eye for certain types of things. But I like some of the things they do from an overall production standpoint. yeah Yeah. I mean, look. Go ahead. ahead, yo. No, I'm just going to say, man, when we look back in history,
00:55:38
Speaker
um We look at we're going look back at the tighty whities of boxing. There's going be a big old doo doo stain on it. And it's going to be funky than a motherfucker when you go back and look at you I'm like, damn, this dude, this motherfucker, social media influencer with the Habsburg jaw and the hobbit's foot under the beard came in the box and and was able to do what he he did. What?
00:55:59
Speaker
Yeah. God, yeah bro. People are going to stop believing that boxing is real. They're going to think that every fight is scripted now. and You know, that's not what we need. I think it can we need it can happen in these types of sports. I'm guessing because, yeah, you're not going to have a YouTuber come out and compete in the NFL. You know what I'm saying?
00:56:19
Speaker
Maybe not like ah in essence, but maybe you have someone who's competed in the sport of football who maybe they get a big YouTube following and they get a tryout or something like that. Let's say they make the team or whatever. bro brackle black lener Brock Lesnar tried that. It didn't work out well. It didn't work for Rucks. He got punched in that shit. that but The is only positive thing I'll ever say about Jake Paul, I do appreciate what did for Ben Askren who needed a double lung transplant. oh yeah and Jake Paul paid for all that. and While like you know Dana White other and other MMA promoters kind of just didn't really help the guy out. and ah yeah because He looked definitely. though Those bitches were gross. but yeah um
00:56:59
Speaker
It's kind of like like with this Jake Paul crap. it it makes me just think of every bad card we've seen in boxing scored, you know? we It just, there just levels of fuckery and his is just at the extreme level and it's on this though the showcasing for the world to see, you know what saying? Who in a who in a in ah in their fondest memory or or thought, whatever, would think that I'm watching Orange is the New Black on Netflix 10 years ago and then I'm watching Mike Tyson versus ah Jake Paul on Netflix. yeah Nobody would have thought about that, you know what i'm saying? Yeah. The first season of Stranger Things, and then it's like, whoa, they're promoting Jake Paul and Stranger Things comes out on Christmas? Like, this is this is crazy. It's crazy. sam will be a Hey, I'll just say this. Yeah, hey, you know, the numbers are crazy. So, you know what I'm saying? So, that...
00:57:46
Speaker
is a driver for a lot of it there uh and i just want to say that i guess it's me a kind of last thing i'll touch on it but i think there is a place for jake paul in the sport by virtue of some of the things that have taken place and all of that stuff as i mentioned this novelty aspect but i agree that this fight is not a good fight and i don't know if it wins over any fans if it loses fans ultimately maybe time will tell but There seem to be a lot of people talking about it, and that's one thing that I will say because I know for us, we probably all watch boxing on a weekly basis, multiple cards, sometimes multiple things up on different
Event Organization Strategies
00:58:29
Speaker
devices.
00:58:29
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That being said, usually, unless it's the top level of the sport, Crawford versus the Spence, Joshua versus Usyk or something like that, I don't get people that hit me up or text me or anything saying anything about boxing. But after a Jake Paul versus whomever fight, I usually get people that ah text me, especially after this one, people hit me up. You know what I'm saying? Just talking about it and they were wondering about it. Hey, what do you think about it? Now, a lot of it was whether it was legit or scripted or whatnot. So maybe that's not a good thing in that sense. But that being said, they were hitting me up.
00:59:06
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So it was interesting. yeah Paul, he got it he has a role in boxing. but i mean, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Omar. No, no, no. No, you're good. He does have a role in boxing. I'm assuming you were going to say as a promoter and nothingness of women's boxing? No. No. His mouth is a duck butter collection plate. He could definitely sell out on his duck butter lip balm.
00:59:29
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Just like I said, you got to put an AJ stamp on it because it's that edition. And all the girls will buy it. You feel me? It's like the Erykah Badu vagina scented candles that she has. You know what saying? They're sell out.
00:59:44
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I'm trying to help you out here, Jake Paul. Go and get that duck butter lip balm ready. You know what I'm saying? Jake Paul is the dude who won the bet. You know, the guy that said he could walk in the bar, stand on top of the bar, and piss everywhere and not get in trouble?
01:00:00
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That's him. That's him. He did. He couldn't stood on top of the bar, pulled his meat out. You know what I'm saying? Pissed on his balls a little bit because his shit's so small. oh yeah that be Yeah, I'm cooking. I don't like this dude, bro. I don't like what he's doing. I don't care. care might This was a Hail Mary for him because that last fight he had with Mike Perry, knew i really the were numbers were really down from his previous ones. People were kind of getting tired of him in boxing. so i This was like a Hail Mary for him.
01:00:28
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I love the synergy that we have on this show because all three of you touched on my next couple points here. I got some sports professor facts for you. First of all, in terms of how abominable this fight was, Joshua landed 48 of 146 punches, out 48.
01:00:43
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with thirty one of those being remembered thirty one out of forty eight In round five and round six, which means he only landed 17 punches in the first four rounds. Jake Paul, on the other hand, landed 16 of 56, 29%, just abysmal, including none, zero in the sixth round where he was on all fours and basically got knocked out.
01:01:05
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and mouth the word wow or woe to his brother because he was so surprised at our how hard Anthony Joshua hit. On the other hand, as we mentioned, they watched this fight because of him. 44 million was the top line number worldwide, 26 million in the United States. So the eyes were on this like a major NFL game.
01:01:27
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So if that's what you're telling them then that Netflix is going to get, Netflix is going to take those ratings all day. a long um Let's get some comments here. We got some questions. Shout out to our brother, Dirty Mojo. I know I'm catching up on these questions. I was just waiting for the right time. Tune in to Sunday Showdown.
01:01:45
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Every Sunday but after the night games, before the day games, before the night games. But he says, do people watch Jake Paul for the fight or because they want to see him get beat up? Right? you mean know what what Exactly. What we saw was that one punch put his ass on the canvas. That's what we had been looking for. Let's get to another comment here. Shout out our brother Champ Ross. Happy holidays. We appreciate you, brother. By the way, this is the Boxing Champs Fight Pick group, so if anybody wants to play in the group, it is free to play. You can win money. All you got to do is pick the outcomes of boxing matches. Yayo, put the link there in the chat, so hit that up or let any of us know. Get free to play and you can win money. He says, um Ernest Jake is going to send a cease and desist order on your ass. He also says the hoaxer estate should shoot for sue for defamation. Now let's talk about this.
01:02:43
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Yeah, I don't fuck with him either. There was a controversial entrance, first of all. Joshua, by the way, coming me out with Freeway. When was last time we saw Freeway? i was very I was excited. I was great kind of laughing along. Look, we ain't seen Freeway a while. Hey, man, a you you met the you met the real Rick Ross, right? Yeah.
Controversial Entrances and Personas
01:03:03
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Yeah, I did. Yeah, man. You can't mix the two up. no No, no, no. Of course not. And Rick Ross's fake self with his stealing of identities was in the crowd. Yeah. The fake Rick Ross. It's Miami. wrong ja pop Jake Paul came out adorned in Hulk Hogan-inspired ring attire and with controversial rapper and snitch, shall we say, Takashi69. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Another Miami person.
01:03:31
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Troll. Both of them trolling some real shit. were just troing troing Yeah, 6ix9ine troll rap, hip hop, he trolled it. And Jake Paul is trolling boxing. And um both up, there's no place for either one of them.
01:03:46
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Not as boxer. not as a boxer 69 has been doing ah the streamer thing lately. He's been with Aiden Ross and the rest of those those guys. so oh yeah it just Yeah, he's been doing that stuff. because the all it just It just makes sense for him to do that. there He lives in Miami. He ain't got nothing else to do. you know say I think he's going back to jail anyways. but ah and He needs to chill out because his mom was robbed not too long ago.
01:04:11
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Yeah. They kidnapped her. They kidnapped They held her hostage. They held her hostage. Yeah. Bro, need to calm down, bro. You need to calm the fuck down. Yeah, he does. Right?
01:04:23
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Hey. hey Look. Go ahead, Josh. I just had one thing, and it was on what you had mentioned. From a percentage standpoint, from an overall fight perspective, that 33% and 29%, that's not out of the customary. It is pretty abysmal, but you see that sometimes with even guys who are legitimately two tough competitors. Now, from that round-by-round standpoint, that's when I think it really does shout out, and that's horrible there when you're talking about some of those low numbers and all of that stuff. The total overall punch is being very low.
01:04:58
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And then the 44 million, yes, those are eyes. So the streaming world is pretty interesting. I guess a lot like music in some sense with the streaming world and the change and all of that stuff.
01:05:10
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I wonder, and maybe there's something out there conversion wise, just thinking about it, how it translates as far as like the traditional boxing pay-per-view, they used to be a higher amount. So of course you look at Pacquiao Mayweather, that was a,
01:05:26
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2.5 million or was it three or no maybe it's four something like four yeah uh mayweather and de la hoya at the time and i think that might have been the highest for a long period of time but certainly a difference between buying a pay-per-view that is 75 85 100 versus getting netflix you know which a lot of people already have but that being said That's an easier avenue for new fans and new people to get into the sport right there. So there's something to that as well. So I'm not saying one is better than other. And I prefer certainly an easier access point, even you know network television when that's been done at different times. So it's just interesting with the numbers there, 44 million at that peak right there. And Netflix has a bunch of users, maybe a hundred and something million or something like that. So I just wonder how it all translates UFC on Paramount, same thing. go happen
01:06:22
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Exactly. And you know what else they did that was smart, which I would never normally say by going later was smart. They went later at 1130 when the football college games were ending. And by the way, they promoted the new Dave Chappelle special in the middle of it. So they knew they were trying to maximize as many eyes as possible for that. o bar Not even the fight, but just the the after as well. There comedy scene.
01:06:47
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Mauro Ranallo even said, for those you guys tuning in after the game, welcome. He said that once the game ended because I was watching the game. I had the game on and I had the fight. I had the sound on the game. I just had to fight. just look i was watch I was into the game. And then once it ended, Ranallo was just like, hey, there everybody who watched the fight, I mean, watched the game, welcome to the fight. And i I'm sure their stuff you know skyrocketed.
01:07:09
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And they definitely do that better than what Amazon does with the PBC cards because you practically don't see anything. They don't even care. It's crazy. No promotion. One finding is promotion. I remember Yale said that one time because we were both talking about that, how Amazon is just a facilitator of just, hey, you can watch it here. You think I'm going to put my money and promote this? Oh, no, we're not doing that.
01:07:32
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no But they'll put the Thursday night football game on their regular Amazon page, the regular shopping there, but they won't do that with the boxing. No, they do it for one fighting sometimes too.
01:07:43
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Oh yeah, one FC, I was going to know this. Yeah, I've seen them out there, but definitely not the boxing like that. Second biggest promotion in the world. and the vietnam And they came out the other day and and Amazon said they're getting their highest ratings for Thursday night football this year, 16 million every year. they're never killing it. They're killing it.
01:07:59
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um yeah Shout out to Kristen Kastenberry. Appreciate you tuning in, girl. Shout out. She says, I heard the fight was rigged, but who would break their jaw on purpose? You know, if that goes against, a you know, Joshua going against the script, if there was one, we can talk about that. She also says this guy just sacrificed his face to get plummeted just to make money.
Future of Women's Boxing and Industry Challenges
01:08:18
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Yep. She also says on Instagram that it's got to be about the money or false prestige. He gave the audience what they wanted. It's all strategic. It's all a bunch of bullshit, she says.
01:08:28
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I do feel like a hundred for, I feel like a hundred million could help me with a broken jaw. For real. look i list glory Break kind my jaw for a hundred million. i think I'll be wrapping through the wire.
01:08:41
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Billionaires, billionaires have millionaires and multimillionaires have some weird hobbies, right? they They do because they've done everything else. So they're into that other stuff, right? So, I mean, to be honest, y'all saw how Jake reacted after getting his jaw broke.
01:08:58
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It was like, it's like he got a, he got an erection from that shit. Like he was like, woo. I actually took one from the big black guy. I just, I took the whole thing. Right. That shit was weird, bro.
01:09:11
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That listen listen, bro. That's weird. I'm telling you, ain't never seen nobody get that shit cracked open and just be, get excited about it. Like, Like, there's something wrong with that, bro. Y'all ever seen that movie Surviving the Game with Ice-T? Go ahead, Josh. Y'all ever seen movie Surviving the Game with Ice-T? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:09:33
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That's something that happens for real. There's there's a story behind that. It's crazy. There's a story about that. Yeah, there's a story behind that. You what I'm saying? That says somebody free out in the woods and hunt them for real. Yeah, there's story behind that.
01:09:48
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Oh, shit. I'm sure that happened to a rich people. um Let's see. Dirty Mojo also says majority of people watching his fights are not boxing fans. Completely true and shown by the majority of the people that were in that audience that night.
01:10:01
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Champ Ross also says I showed speed as the next guy. I hear him talking about Carl Frampton. Wow. Interesting. Let's talk about the next guy for Anthony Joshua.
01:10:12
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The long-awaited Tyson Fury potential fight. It was immediately talked about on the broadcast. Does anyone have thoughts on that? I think Fury's trying to be like Usyk and fight the, say he fought the big, you know, the last one because he fought Usyk. He fought Wilder. he just hasn't fought Fury.
01:10:34
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And it was the one, the all Britain fight that they really wanted. It should happened a long time ago. It's past its shelf life for sure. yep So what ah whats what's happening with money here?
01:10:46
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Right. Where's where's this where's this money being funneled to? Right. Is there don't we have a human trafficking problem? m Wasn't it? Wasn't it? Wasn't Wasn't it? Do it accused of um doing some things like that? Yeah. But yet. But yet we're you know, what type of people are we giving millions of dollars to?
01:11:05
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are we Are we enabling them? to Are we enabling these guys to to be able to continue on with what they're doing? so So let me ask you guys this, a serious question. If you had a daughter that was in boxing, right?
01:11:18
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And you you've done everything you're supposed to do for as a child, you've gotten her in USA Boxing, you've gotten her you know to do trials and nationals and things like this. Would you entrust your daughter to be under Jake Paul or MVP promotions,
01:11:33
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to to box would you entrust would you entrust your daughter to go with them for her boxing career I mean are you putting them against other boxing the organizations that don't treat me no I'm asking you if you would let your your daughter would you advise your daughter to to sign with MVP box if you're gonna okay daughter you can go to any of these organizations all of them are gonna treat you like shit but one is gonna make you a lot more damn money you make your choice mean, it's the question. You answer the question. take well I think if I think me personally, if it was my child, ah daughter or son whatever, and and it was Jake Paul and his organization is paying the most and putting on the fights and showcasing their fighters.
01:12:14
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First thing I would do is take that contract and take it to a lawyer. If it's legit, I'll do it. If it's not legit, I'm not doing it. out I would. Boxing is a cold game. Got a lot of dirty promoters and all of that out there. Exactly. There's a select few that get to rise to the cream of the crop and all of that stuff. But what I will say is, yes, I know that I'd be there every step of the way. And I hope and I feel I know that My background in my professional life would help me guide her in the proper direction as we're going through this journey. And I would be there. So I would say yes. And as mentioned, he has a track record of a number of the top women in the sport that are signing with him.
01:13:00
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Now, that that being said, What does that say about either his promotion or the other promotions as mentioned? Because a lot of them have jumped ship from more established promotions, whether that's Queensberry, Boxer, Matchroom,
01:13:21
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freaking top rank or I don't know but he has a lot of women under the stable there so there has to be something tied into it but I but yeah you can go ahead there it did after you finish that I do have one thing there Ernest in regards to that financial aspect uh but go ahead yeah I mean for me personally uh I don't I don't think I don't think I could would advise uh my daughter to to do business uh with them until they they really prove that they're there for the women. Cause right now what I see is not them being there for the women. I see them using the women as pawns in the game in order to enrich themselves and enrich people who have no good intentions for our sport whatsoever. They're just there to collect money.
01:14:08
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So I would say, no, I would, I would advise my daughter to talk to Salida promotions. I would advise her to have a conversation with Layla Ali and You know, maybe um maybe our our homie down there in Nashville, know saying, have a conversation with them and try to figure out what the best route to go because I'm just not going to let no dude put my daughter on a track and and be pimping her. I just, I'm not about to do that. You know what saying? And I would it it would, obviously it wouldn't be my choice at the end of the day.
01:14:39
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It would be hers to make, but I would advise against it. Like I wouldn't send my kid to go intern at Bad Boys. or any other music label. I would do what Taylor Swift's dad did. I would invest in my child and do the marketing for them and get them where need to be.
01:14:56
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Hey, I think some of, i hear I hear what you're saying exactly. I do hear what you're saying, but I think some of the structure of boxing has it set up in a way where there's so many players involved in all of that stuff that,
01:15:13
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um there are going to be some organizations companies individuals whether cd or who only have the financial aspect for them individually in their interest just with just the way that it's set up because you had to have so many people involved from the location the venue the networks if you're aiming for networks the promoters the managers if you have that there are some people doing it on the independent route without a promoter and you have to move a certain type of way there.
01:15:48
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And of course it's not, it is not apples to apples for all who are involved in those types of deals where they're doing things on the independent side.
01:15:59
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That being said, yeah, there's always something that is a bit seedy rough. And I guess you can say um not necessarily,
01:16:11
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ah are her theres yeah There's a rough side dark side to the sport, no doubt about it, I would say. That's the best way of putting it. And that made me think of this. I had wrote this down earlier, what you're talking about there.
01:16:25
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There is some of that aspect of, you think about it from a financial perspective, where there can be some laundering and things of that nature. So you made a great great point there. earnest on tyson fury and him not being able to travel to the u.s no one from his family essentially because they were on the fbi's list or whatever some kind of band list and that's because of their ties to this russian mobster or irish chicken irish or irish okay yeah and i am cartel organization yeah cartel lead or whatnot and for those that don't know there used to be in that mess Yeah, there there used to be a boxing promotion called Probellum, and they were ah scooping up a lot of top-tier fighters,
Probellum Promotion and Cartel Ties
01:17:07
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or at least, and then there were big promoters that were doing deals with them, your top ranks of the sport, for one, for sure, who had a deal with Probellum.
01:17:16
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so ty ah So Tyson Fury, he was co-promoted or some kind of joint agreement with Top Rank and Probellum. And when this situation happened where this guy came up on this list or whatever, this cartel leader and everything, then they broke ties with Probellum and Probellum now no longer exists or whatnot. And they had some top global fighters.
01:17:39
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Yeah, MTK Global. Yeah, that's the other. I was trying to think the other one as well. Probellum and MTK Global. And if you remember from a certain time period, so let's say about between five, between ah like four and seven years ago when they were out there or whatever, you could just see them pop up all of a sudden. They started getting all of the top named fighters out there, of course.
01:18:02
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Tyson Fury dealing with him. he was the lineal champion at the time, so on and so forth. But you had a lot of them doing ties with them, agreement deals being made. I think Matchroom may have done something with them too, but i don't I can't say that for certain, but they may have.
01:18:15
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But that being said, when all of this came out, they all of a sudden broke ties. Nobody wants anything to do with them. But that being said, they were enjoying and taking that money while it was happening. Yeah, somebody ah that was that's on the ban list, is they say he insulti.
01:18:30
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Ain't that where Turkey at? That's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, they say that's where he's at. So then all of a sudden we have, you know, we have re-eye season. Hmm.
01:18:43
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No, I mean, that's all facts you were spitting, Josh. Very good information. Thank for that. Really appreciate it. Caden in the comments, 9226. Thank you for tuning in. It says, MVP promotes female boxers better than other promotions.
01:18:56
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Unfortunately, most promoters don't take boxing seriously. I think that's what I was trying to get at and Josh was trying to get at. It's not that um Jake Paul would be the best one to send her to. It would be that...
01:19:06
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she would make the most money there and no one's going to care about her wherever she goes. Now, obviously there are women led organizations, as you mentioned, that might
Historical Corruption in Boxing
01:19:15
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be better off. And yes, I agree with you when you're actually looking at it in a more serious life than we are having a little jovial fun here. Yes, you might have a little more serious conversation and look into that a little more. But if you ask the average person, they're going to send them to where the most money can be made in such a a corrupt, excuse me, sport.
01:19:35
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Champ says Eddie Hearn has been good for women's boxing. Also, Caden says the sport has been corrupted since the mob days in the early 20th century.
01:19:45
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um So, I mean, it is. It's a corrupted sport. hey Going back prior to that, I can tell you. get from the history of yeah um a a Congress had the Bull. about fixing fights.
01:19:58
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they they interviewed him and he talked he had a conversation about fixing fights right they They talked about that on the Congress. congressional um you know There was a hearing about it over you know the mob's mob's involvement in boxing. And we're seeing that happen now in other sports too.
01:20:13
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With the NBA, we saw the gambling defense investigation. God, they're so stupid and NBA. God, man. or so no yeah yeah Yeah, no, I agree with Kate and Derek, but I can tell you 100% if you go back 19th century, 18th century, yeah, some of the stuff that was taking place with these fighters, especially um fighters of color, black fighters or any other minority fighter and how the playing field was for them, it's some crazy stuff right there. I can tell you that a corruption aspect of it, the dirtiness and all of that has been a part of it pretty much since its existence, you know?
01:20:49
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Yeah. My bad. I missed this comment earlier, Bobby G. He said it was like watching Drago follow Apollo around with his fist got back to his trainer, let him loose. Speaking of Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul, shout out Rock Chalk.
01:21:02
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Social Media's Influence on Female Boxers
01:21:12
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01:21:15
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And as well, yes, go ahead. I got one other thing um and I was just thinking of it. You know, I said i sir I would let my daughter sign to, you know, from that scenario to MVP, but there are certainly choices that have to be made, you know, and just thinking about it from an athlete's perspective, you as the fighter and all of that stuff, ah what you're willing to do and,
01:21:42
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whether or not you're willing to compromise yourself, your morals and values and things of that nature for the benefit of, say, follower growth or more likes or things of that nature. Because I can't say I have seen where a sort of and I think if people just look at their like.
01:22:03
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there has been a sexualized nature to some fighters I've seen, and not that it didn't happen with any other promotion, but how they're growing and benefiting some of the women on the MVP side as far as they're on Instagram, you know, things of that nature. Now, that being said, if you're,
01:22:24
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the that fighter yeah i suppose you would have a choice you know what i'm saying and if that's the route you choose to go or whatever and if you don't go that route it may hinder you from gaining millions of followers versus several thousand you know what i'm saying so that is an interesting aspect of it too that is out there what are you willing to do and continue are you willing to compromise your own moral values ah i hate I hate that you made such a salient and amazing point while there was some bot in the comments making emojis that covered him yet myself and Yayo. I was literally like, what the fuck? What is this? Still doing it, dude. Get out of here. Every emoji that you said, it wasn't it anything you were saying. We really appreciate everything. Oh, no, no, no.
01:23:15
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I got you. You're right. They do sexualize women fighters. they what With that body paint, too. um ah yeah Just like Gale said, right? And as well, what about the ring girls? We still have ring girls that go around in two-piece bikinis. So it's not like- Given that, hold on real quick. in In relation to that, for women's fight, would you be cool with a guy in a Speedo going around a ring?
01:23:38
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Me personally, if you want to put a Chippendale out there, make it equality. But do you think the majority of the line ain't close? they would have hired me, I'll do it. You stupid. I'll do it. If they want somebody dusty, I'll do it. I'll do it. With the Borat joint.
01:23:53
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Clever gonna come out with the Oscar de la Hoya banana hammock. Hey, I'm gonna wear a singlet like Andre the Giant. I wear one singlet. Let's go. Hey, let's go. Hey, let's go. Beat them on that door. Let it be known. We want the quality in the Hey, go with Dallas. I'll pick it up. don't care.
01:24:10
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Yeah, man. if If they did that, I mean, I probably, i don't know. I probably, i don't know what I would do. I'd probably, I probably wouldn't watch it if we're being honest. Cause you know, I love your it be won't be there live. I know that if they did that. Champ agrees a little bit with what we all said and kind of gets to the point you were making earlier, Yale.
01:24:28
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He says, and i saw I'm sorry, these comments go over your face, Yale. Unfortunately, I can't do anything about it with the layout. i answerribute I was upset they didn't put the three women's fights on the main card to watch the right underneath Longgarden to build that fight. Instead, I highly doubt they matched them up, AB on another pad. I think I agree completely. de bo should have been They should have been above the Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva fight, even though they're bigger names.
01:24:54
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yo cast yo The Yocasta Vale fight? Oh, yeah. Man, that fight was cold, man. That was a... that was probably the best fight on the card bro being honest like that should have been on the main card and i i put like this if you're gonna if you want to promote the uh the the boy and and blood bump gardener you want to have her so that people can say see who the hell she's talking about when you know she says yeah i might fire her next you know what i'm saying so with that do you all think that's a good fight next for for both them absolutely yeah it needs to absolutely yeah and with three with three minute rounds
01:25:28
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we three might be with three minute rounds With three minute rounds, that would be an incredible fight. it would absolutely be incredible. I mean, I just I've already pictured in my head how it would go. But that would be a fight that would need to be studied because Caroline Du Bois is she she's for real.
01:25:45
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what I'm saying? She's highly skilled. She, you know, you know, she's she's she's highly skilled. And we just haven't had an opportunity to see her use all the things that she has in her tool bags. Because I promise you if you guys want to see knockouts, give her an extra minute to work ah to work with. you know she'll She'll put most of them down. brother Her and her brother. i wonder how that household was.
01:26:05
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Oh, you know, that's funny, boy. He has no personality. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, I'm convinced her brother was hatched. He looked like a Jurassic human. He looked like a Koopa Trooper. He's a straight Koopa Trooper. You know what I mean? He looked like Koopa Trooper, yeah, like a Goopa. Like, he'll say, hey, guys, I said a joke.
01:26:25
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ah Small head, big body, real boy. Y'all remember the the Mario Luigi movie when they had the big alien? we leave. No type of personality. ho do we we have to We have to wait for Josh to get back to get his final answer on that and that fight we were talking about. But until we wait until we get he gets back.
01:26:46
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Talk to us about these MMA fighters that fought each other. Tyron Woodley versus Anderson Silva. Both want to continue fighting. Anderson, 50 years old, knocked Tyron Woodley out with a mean uppercut.
01:26:58
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didn't tell y'all that was going to happen, though. it i call I called the Silva knockout. I called it. It's one of those things where you know you got two legends in their own weight classes ah in the UFC in mixed martial arts. Those are two legends. um One of the best they ever do that at their weight classes. And what the problem is Silva was known for his hands and his feet and his knees and his elbows. wood lee he Later on, he had power in his hands when he like knocked out Kosciak and a couple others. But he's a wrestler.
01:27:26
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I'm not a fan of seeing them fight like this. just a sidebar only one i kind of am happy to see him do well in boxing is tony ferguson who' won again um he's not a now he's not a bad boxer but i it's just this the original circus match was supposed to be silver versus war jones dana stopped that because he was still an active fighter they want to do it and now that they're both you know they can do it i don't see why that fight hasn't happened um It was cool just to see, like, hey, 50-year-old Angela Silva in the ring still doing his thing, but we saw him against Jake Paul. You know, we we know what type of boxer he is. It's it's it's not you know it's not for him. He can knock out MMA guys. He can knock out a boxer. Ain't going to happen.
01:28:09
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you know he Now I will say against Chavez, he looked good, but, you know, it's Chavez jr Another person who's supposed to be in the Misfits League. Yeah. He should be there, for sure. hey And he fought he fought Jake Paul, and that was, you know. Embarrassing. Embarrassing right there, for sure. Hey, I thought it was trash, to be honest with you. And if you want to make a strong case for the women or someone else being on the main card, I don't see that that fight brought any true or real value from a fan's perspective.
01:28:43
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or anything of that nature. Of course, the knockout, in hindsight, of course, or now that we know it, the knockout happened. Yeah, that's something that you will see on some replays and things of that nature. And they will benefit from that from a social media standpoint and all that stuff.
01:28:59
Speaker
But I can't say that that there was a reason that that fight had to be on the main card. And I don't think... that it drew in any people. I wouldn't think maybe there are some m MMA fans who wanted to see Silva and Woodley, of course, but just for them to box, yeah, I think i thought it had no real value. It was supposed to be Chris Weidman, and people did want to see that because Silva wanted his get back at Chris Weidman.
01:29:25
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Yeah, yeah. Even that, you know what I'm saying? Boxing, you know, Weidman, more a wrestler, you know what I'm saying? Oh, he's wrestler, 100%. He's a wrestler. He didn't really box. But he did knock out Silva, though. How is that good for boxing? I mean i think it's i think it's not. i think it helps more in physical ticket sales. It's not. It's helping the comm show. I do think physical ticket sales, it would have helped out more. If people are like, oh, I can see Anderson Silva versus Tyron Woodley live. Okay, cool. Fuck, that sounds good. but Yeah, live on Netflix or for boxing fans, no. No value whatsoever, Josh. Yeah, man. have one of them.
01:29:56
Speaker
they Sorry, yeah or I was going to say, they complained about Woodley and his style as an MMA fighter. Dan White complained about him, talked trash about him and that stuff. So certainly he's not one who brought the views in that sense, you know?
01:30:11
Speaker
but Straight Cirque de Soleil. You got two dudes who ain't officially boxers and one is a last minute replacement. You should have just canceled the fight altogether. Like you said, it it added no value. There was nothing really to see other than, you know, homie starching, homie.
01:30:25
Speaker
And, you know, yeah. Face down. Face down, diddy side up. Woodley wasn't in shape for that anyway. No.
01:30:36
Speaker
think they thought I had a cruiserweight or something. Anderson saved him, bro. He was really about to be diddy sided up. He held him up on the way down. He said he got called up, what, two days before the fight? No, it was like two weeks. I think it was like two weeks. Two weeks notice.
01:30:52
Speaker
All right. So finally, gentlemen, we do have to answer this question that we asked earlier.
Anthony Joshua vs. Tyson Fury Preview
01:30:56
Speaker
Josh, we'll start with you. Anthony Joshua versus Tyson Fury next. We've got to get some straight answers. What say you? Well, I say that, of course, I'll watch it.
01:31:05
Speaker
And it might ultimately be a decent fight still, even at this stage, at one point. And this was when, I guess you could they were both in their prime, depending on how that parallel was there, whatever it may be. this At one point, I thought that Anthony Joshua would beat him. I wanted to see that fight. I thought it was one of the top fights in boxing. By the same token, I also thought that anthony joshua versus deontay wilder at one particular point could have been the top fight in boxing you know what i'm saying if it would have if things would have worked out in a different way you know what i'm saying joshua not get knocked out uh against andrew ruiz and all of that stuff and did uh what transpired between um
01:31:57
Speaker
Wilder and Fury. So unfortunately we didn't get to get that, but this was also going to be one of those, ah certainly a top 10 fight in the sport. Just thinking about the viewership and expectations, certainly from a domestic standpoint. Now I think they'll generate a lot of people who come out, show support because it's going to be a domestic fight and the British fans, they show up, show out. As we all know, I think it's an interesting fight.
01:32:24
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Whether it moves the needle, I don't think – well, it will will move the needle. I will say it will move the needle needle to a certain degree. But in terms of implications for the heavyweight division as a whole, I don't think there that – Yeah, either one of them, or at least I feel that regardless of who wins, that shouldn't shoot them to the top of the line or anything. I don't want to see Usyk in there with either one of them again because he's already beat both of them twice.
01:32:54
Speaker
And therefore, we just need to see Usyk take on some of these other guys that are out there who could give him a challenge for sure. So what would you do differently for each of these fighters then would be my counter question to you.
01:33:08
Speaker
whos Oh, at this stage, at this stage, no, no. I think this is the best fight for the two of them right now. i do ah I agree that this is the best fight, the biggest fight for the two of them that can be made right now. Because, yeah, when you look at it as far as Usyk being the guy and then who else is around it, I don't think they can generate...
01:33:31
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a bigger audience or whatever it may be without each other in the way that they're going to be able to generate this over in the uk depending on where it'll be whether that's wembley or um or o2 arena whatever it may be so i do think this is the best fight for the both of them at this stage and i do when looking at from a prediction standpoint on where things stand right now i favored Tyson Fury at this particular stage.
01:34:01
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ah Like I said, that's why I brought up the point that previously I favored Anthony Joshua, but I do feel that Joshua Yeah, there's something that happened with that knockout loss to Andrew Ruiz that changed how he reacted to knockouts because we saw him get dropped by Klitschko, and that was a tough one. He got up, did his thing. Matter of fact, he got up a few times against Ruiz, but I think after that,
01:34:29
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a lot of things changed and maybe even from a confidence perspective, certainly going up against someone like Tyson Fury, who's going to be all over him from a verbal standpoint, just let's think about the press conference, it's going to crazy. So I favor Fury and I do think it's the best fight for the two of them at this stage.
01:34:47
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steel i agree um I agree completely. in cubity I've talked and i have talked about this fight for years and how it is a little late, but they're still two of the best fighters from Britain that are going to make the most amount of money at this point, even still because of their heavyweight status and their name status and all that. Clever what do you got? um Yeah, I know. I'm at my grandma's house in the country in Puerto Rico. I'm looking at the one from Jack's wise menu.
01:35:17
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oh Look at both of those. Lord have mercy. i mean, if if you could sell out two... soccer arenas for counter Ben and Chris Eubanks in a non-title fight just think what they're gonna do with this okay uh think you know I said it before there's not much to do over there and not many you know uh things they could do on the weekend so this is just gonna have everybody come see this fight even though it's past this prime we all paid i know I paid a hundred dollars actually take the DVR the damn match uh because I was at I was was in a wedding but uh
01:35:51
Speaker
but Mayweather fought Pacquiao. They were in their their late 30s and they fought. You know i'm saying? it was past where we wanted to see it, like four or five years too late. Spence versus Crawford is about five years past where we wanted to see it. So people are still going to want to see this fight, even know it's past its prime and it's going to sell out and we're going talk about it. And ah Fury is going to dog walk him.
01:36:11
Speaker
Yeah, and I agree. I think ah at this point, um... You know, the way that Jake Paul or Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua was unable to hit a ducking Jake Paul.
01:36:23
Speaker
Tyson Fury is very slick, very, very slick. And the way that he moves around that ring awkwardly as well with that awkward style of his. um I mean, it's going to be hard for him to to to catch as well. So, yeah, I would have Tyson Fury as well there. Yeah, what you got?
01:36:40
Speaker
Well, I'm going to tell you what boxing does. box Boxing likes to have. a face ah representation as the face of boxing. Yusek, they'd like Yusek to be the face of boxing.
01:36:52
Speaker
Jake Paul, they love for him to be the face of boxing. Canelo Alvarez was the face of boxing for the longest time. um Tyson Fury, they try to make him the face of boxing, right? Do y'all, you you see what we have? We have a whole bunch of failures except for one, Yusek. And Yusek doesn't, he's not being pushed in a way to where he should be the face of boxing, but he deserves He deserves an honorable mention there based off of what he's done.
01:37:19
Speaker
And he should be talked about more, right? Because based off of whats what his deal is. But like you guys said, man, back to the Joshua Fury thing. So Joshua's fought at Wembley Stadium at least three times, right? At least three times. And it doesn't really matter who they put in Wembley Stadium.
01:37:36
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They're going to sell out because there's, i don't know, let's let's just say there's 10 million people in the UK and there's a wait list. for events at the Wembley Stadium, and they have 90,000 there. So no matter what event they put on there, it's going to be packed out because people are on and they're in line waiting to be able to go to an event there.
01:37:56
Speaker
So it's going to look like something spectacular. Cool. i um Honestly, I think, you know, to your point, Omar, I think Fury is a much larger guy. He would be easier to hit in the body for sure.
01:38:10
Speaker
Joshua could definitely get to him. we've seen him We've seen him get to some some fighters before. He could get to him, but i think I think Fury is, he would put on a master class at boxing and probably something like third, fourth round. cause you i mean if if he fought if If he fought Fury the way that he fought Deontay Wilder in the second fight where he just went forward and just, he did that, it get bad early. It could get bad early. quick it can get bad early so i think i think Fury would would fury would probably do him bad man and i don't want to see it i feel like anthony joshua i feel like deontay wilder i feel like all these guys have made enough money and for them to really actually be putting it on the line against somebody who's a killer just like they are it's at this point you know i'm saying just just let it go bro
01:39:03
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? don't know. Anthony Joshua, this might be your last chance left. And if you get a shot of Fury and can somehow magically knock him out, yeah and then you get a shot at a world championship, i think you've got to take it. this Do you? Fabio Worley would knock him. Do you? I would. don't know. Heavyweights ain't nothing to be playing around with. Fabio Worley would knock the curl out of Joshua's hair. He didn't want that. Previously, didn't think that –
01:39:30
Speaker
very could knock out Joshua, but now I think he definitely could. I just feel like, yeah, there's something there despite these last several fights, but if you really look deeper into it, yeah, i still think that he's a different fighter from when he fought Andrew Lee. It's too stiff. It's too stiff.
01:39:50
Speaker
I mean, you got Kaviel out there. Kaviel is body snatching. Kaviel, I mean, I think Bacolia leave him slobbering. you know what mean it depends on what bakoli depends on what that's all pictured bakoli in the gym a few weeks ago now yeah only but i mean what about what about zane big bang hey i think even jane if joshua with that uh left straight he was catching uh juggernaut joyce with
01:40:22
Speaker
um my Might do might duo a whirly-durly like Wilder did. Like, well what was that? yeah And shout out Unc Drake, my guy Unc Drake. Josh, i would I was just about to say, you've got paid-for chat, so you know you need to salute this person.
01:40:38
Speaker
Yes, sir. Young knockout. Glad I caught you on my way to work. Appreciate you there. Unc Drake, folks, go go hit him up. Follow him. Salute that to you, Unc Drake, holding it down.
01:40:49
Speaker
As always, appreciate you, my guy. Put some color in the chat. ah Jose Diaz says, even Alexander said, Terrence Crawford is the best pound for pound. Caden says, Joshua has some power, but he has a bad chin, so I don't know in reference to Fury. Champ Ross says, Fury, Joshua, we got to see it. It's a UK special. Jose Diaz says that fight would sell.
01:41:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah, for sure. Both of them are chinny. Both of them have hit the canvas several times. Anthony Joshua got famous from getting up off the canvas to put Klitschko down. So these guys are have been known to you know hit the canvas.
01:41:26
Speaker
That uppercut was crazy. like he When he gave that uppercut to Klitschko, I saw the bottom of his his his tailbones all the way here with his neck snapped Yeah, that was crazy right there. And the way he got up there, he was a confident he was confident still in that one, which is crazy to think about it with Ruiz, who I know yeah none of us expected to end it like that or to end like that specifically. you know And Joshua had caught Ruiz with a hell of a damn shot, too, to drop him. Oh, yeah.
01:41:55
Speaker
That was a big one right there. So I say Ruiz has a chin from taking that. Well, we'll see what happens if Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury finally do fight. And we'll also see what happens with Jake Paul. Will he ever fight again or will he walk away with all the money that he made? It is still to be seen. That being said, again, thank you for tuning in. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds, B-A-L-L-A-N-D-B-U-D-S on YouTube. handy qr code there will take you to all our social medias including clubber d's youtube at clubber d as well you can find josh at 86 boxing and 86 boxing tv and papi chunyeo at papi chunyeo on ig we are here for the boxing champ fight picks group which papi chunyeo put that link in the comments for you all if you would like to join join the group it is free to play you Just pick boxing match outcomes. And if you win, you can win money. And again, it's just free. So it's pretty – it is very fun. And you'll enjoy talking shit with all of us in the group.
01:42:58
Speaker
And as well, again, shout out to Champ Ross for doing all that work that you do. We really appreciate that. And, yeah, let's go ahead. We have some fights to pick for this weekend, two fights before we get you out of here. So that way y'all can at least get a little fight pick special. First of all, we have – Punto Nakatani, 31-0, 24 KOs versus Sebastian Hernandez, 20-0, 18 KOs. These are two undefeated fighters, 12 rounds for the junior featherweights. we'll start with you. Who do you got in this fight for the fight? good Yeah, man. Listen, these this this fight is going to be a great fight.
01:43:38
Speaker
um You know, there's there's there's nothing that I can take from from either fighter. um based off of the you know the fights that I've seen him watch in the past. you know For a while, I just didn't i didn't really want to believe Junto Nakatani. I felt like his opposition wasn't um you know it wasn't really high-level opposition. But, man, after watching him fight a few more times and going back and re-watching, I think he's the goods, man. um I do think he's the goods. He is going to be tested in this fight.
01:44:10
Speaker
And I hope for his sake that he move his head because that's one thing that we' we've learned about Japanese fighters. They have a habit of leaving their head on the center line and left hooks just tend to send them all over the place. You feel me? we seen We've seen that with ah the guys going to fight in the main event. Left hooks are their arch nemesis. So this going to have about four knockdowns.
01:44:35
Speaker
i'm thinking this fight's gonna have a bow four knockdowns maybe two from each man. um At the end of the day, I'm a ride with the home team. I think Nakatani, you know, he'll be able to pull something from his people, and I think he'll be able to get the job done.
01:44:55
Speaker
But like I said, I'm thinking i'm the it at least two knockdowns, but I'm thinking four. something like I'm thinking a large number of knockdowns. And i think I'm going ride with Nakatani,
01:45:07
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um
01:45:10
Speaker
Oh, I don't think it goes a distance. um I think I'm going go with Nakatani probably round 10. Round 10, Nakatani. What you got, Josh?
01:45:23
Speaker
I already picked it in ah my little app. I put it in the notes section on my phone. I picked split decision for Nakatani, but I do think it's going to be a damn good fight. nakatani should be tested that to go got 18 knockouts in 20 victories so i'm thinking he's got a punch to him folks if you don't know and if you don't like the or don't know of the smaller weights folks this is where you get some of the best fights in the sport for sure because a lot of these guys go guys and gals go unnoticed and um i like nakatani i think he's uh as advertised as uh
01:45:56
Speaker
ah Ernest mentioned there. I mean, we saw him start to rise on the scene, and then as time has gone on, man, he's got some pretty impressive work he's put in out there. And I like the fact that he's so long that when he launches some of those hooks, man, they're coming from back, and when they land, it's crazy. So, yeah, there may be some knockdowns. I got Nakatani via split decision here, and this, if I'm not mistaken, is this his first fight at 122?
01:46:22
Speaker
twenty two because he had vacated 118. Let me see. here in a second It might be his first fight at 122, if I'm not mistaken. um So Super Bantam, yeah, that's 122. So I think this is, let me double check here, but I think so. So that adds even more value to it if it's the case, because I think that um ultimately, you know, it seems we know who's next, and we're going talk about that in the next fight prediction, i guess you could say.
01:46:50
Speaker
Yeah, and I agree with both of you, so I'm combine kind of the the reasons that each of you had. I have Nakatani because, as we've seen, he's just – and I'm not going to use Inoue's name, so pardon the pun, but he's ah he's just a beast, right? He's a he's a savage. um But also, as you mentioned, both of these guys, they're coming out to KO the other the other man the majority of their wins have come by KO.
01:47:15
Speaker
So I assume that they're going to be trying to knock each other out as soon as possible. I got Nakatani KO6. This is going to be a war. Clubber D, what you got ah had I had the same as Yayo. I had 10. Nakatani, I was the same way. you know i was like, why is this guy on a pound-for-pound list? think all these other fighters that should be on that list. I i wasn't believing the hype until I really started watching him fight. This guy is no joke. you know you You know you're something special, even though this is a Christmas show. When they have a building named after you from Die Harder Part 1, you know you're something special, Nakatani.
01:47:46
Speaker
If anyone gets that joke, probably not. But anyways, ah I'm going to go knock on a KO eight. and it's going back and forth. See, so I'm guessing. I think he'll he's gonna learn to move his head by at least by round three, but he will hit the ground least once. And going to say about five knockdowns total before he takes him out the eighth round.
01:48:10
Speaker
Definitely knock down, maybe even, they never know. It could be be on both sides. um Shout out to ah Morning Wombat. we always really love that. That's the man right there. Hey, look, you've been asking to get in the group, and then we we kind of lost contact there. Let me know, brother. We've got to get you in there. I'll let it's more than one back.
01:48:31
Speaker
The link is in there as well. As you can see, Papi Chunyeo posted that link in there. And as well, Champ Ross says the new season starts January 10th. So this is the last week of the year. New season starts January 10th. So make sure that you all join us immediately. Champ also says Nakatani in a way set for spring if both win. Yes, that's what we're hoping to see. That being said, thank you for that segue. Let's move into the monsters fight. This is for all of the bantamweight. Is it bantamweight or featherweight? Excuse me Super bantamweight. Wait, which is it for?
Inoue vs. Picasso Fight Preview
01:49:07
Speaker
This is going to super bantam. Super bantam. All the super bantamweight championships. Thank you, Josh. You got the Monster in the way at 31-0 undefeated. Picasso, 32-0 and one draw.
01:49:18
Speaker
So a very good record there as well. Monster is seven years older, while Picasso has both a three-inch height advantage and a two-inch reach advantage. Clubber D, we'll start with you on this fight. What are your thoughts?
01:49:35
Speaker
Picasso's going to paint a picture, no pun intended. think he's going to use length. He's going to use his length early in the fight. The monster is going to take, in a way, a little while to get in close, okay, to touch that chin. I feel like the first three rounds, people are going nervous.
01:49:53
Speaker
And then since we already had that monster fight lined up, I got...
01:50:03
Speaker
I got the monster pulling away towards and the end of the fight. got stupid split decision. Go with the monster. All right. Go all the way. Vision the monster. Josh, who you got? i think i actually did split decision as well but i need these split decisions or something to win that little thing i'm leaning in right now you know what i'm saying but hey picasso mexican fighter young cat cool this is definitely a step up for him is going to be the toughest fight of his career in all likelihood
01:50:34
Speaker
And I think he's a good boxer. He's a darn good boxer. He's a Mexican fighter, as noted. But that being said, he's not a come forward type of brawler guy, though he does have a little moxie to him.
01:50:46
Speaker
He will be there in there to box. I think some of those tools will help him out here for a period. But I don't see him going the distance. to be honest with you, um or he he may go the distance. I did pick split decision, but I could see him potentially being stopped at some point in the contest midway or late as well because I just think it's a big jump for him competition wise fairly soon. But hey, you know, if you get opportunities like this, you have to take them, you know, you're going to get likely your biggest payday. Of course, is your biggest opportunity to shout at world championship of status. But I just think, yeah, this will be a learning lesson, hopefully for Picasso in terms of regardless of what happened. He continues forward and tries to kind of rebuild himself. But I do favor, of course, the monster in a way. Oh, my God.
01:51:44
Speaker
The monster in monster in a way while Bronson hit come with a monster in his face. Got him on the inhale. Any dog owner knows that one. Stop feeding the dog broccoli and ah broccoli and milk.
01:52:02
Speaker
yeah I almost called him out of his name. i oh Oh my God, Jesus Christ. He's got it up in his mouth. Yeah, yo, what you got on this plate? Yo, man, listen. ah You know, as per usual, your boy Yayo is in it to win it.
01:52:17
Speaker
I'm right there at the top where it's tighter than Frog's ass. I need about a swing, maybe three fights, maybe, you know, maybe a top ah top three finish, you know what I'm saying, for me to be able to take the whole thing home, all of it.
01:52:33
Speaker
You feel me? So um I ain't go iin't going to lie, man. I'm going with him by stoppage. i'm right I'm riding with the underdog, baby.
01:52:45
Speaker
Yeah. Picasso? ah Yes, sir. OK, OK. I'm taking the young bull by stoppage. The old bull done told young bull. He said, hey, man, look, if you just walk down the hill, you can fuck all of them.
01:52:59
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? So I think Picasso is still going run down the hill. He going to catch any way slipping and he going to do what other people couldn't do. He going to finish him off. Let me tell you why.
01:53:11
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Throughout and throughout these last probably 40 years or so, we've seen sports writers try to take these dudes that can do jumping jacks under a car.
01:53:22
Speaker
You know what i'm saying? And put them in the pound for pound number one spot. And what happens every time? They get exposed. They get upset. We've already seen your boy get sat down with left hooks.
01:53:34
Speaker
Now we got a young a young young brother with with with reach. You know what saying? Fast hands. Catching my man coming in. Woo! You don't move your head? It could get bad real for you.
01:53:47
Speaker
So I'm taking i'm taking my man Picasso by stoppage. And I'm saying it's going to be in the first half of the fight. First half of fight. Yep, that's what I'm saying. oster so you're taking i'm taking I'm taking Picasso by stoppage. i said saying the You're essentially saying younger, bigger, faster.
01:54:07
Speaker
and that's what That's what I'm saying. I'm right i'm riding i'm riding with the underdog. With that underdog thinking, they already said, obviously, the Nakatami, I'm about to call him something else. They already got that fight lined up.
01:54:22
Speaker
And then he already said an interview, he wants Bam also. So this is the perfect ripple effect to ruin everyone's plan. Yeah, fuck it all can see that scenario.
01:54:33
Speaker
Look at all the castle is going to need to be a special fighter for that to happen. Not that he isn't. they paint a picture but He's paint the picture, Josh. Yeah. Hey, I don't, yeah, I don't see it, but that being said, if he's a special fighter and he can make it happen, cause we have seen it before.
01:54:48
Speaker
ah And my thing would be, hey, Nakatani, I mean, not Nakatani, but ah in a way, he's been dropped multiple times and all that stuff. But, hey, he got back up and he finished the fight. You know what I'm saying? So I give him that for sure. He's got something there. He came one round, man.
01:55:05
Speaker
Seven. TKO seven. I agree with what Josh just said there. In a way, is proven he has five years experience on him. He's the monster for a reason. He has an 87% KO percentage, 27 of his 31 wins by KO. Look, this Picasso guy, he paints pictures, and if I'm sure they're very nice. Maybe even Bob Ross-like, Happy Trees and shit, but he's no monster. And he's about to he's about to see some nightmares, the things that Inoue Paws is about to put on him. right
01:55:37
Speaker
i got Inoue KO7. The monster's going to go in and put a whooping on him so we can get this mega fight we want to see between him and Nakatane.
01:55:48
Speaker
oh So there you go. Let's go ahead and get into some comments real quick. Finish this off here. Champ Ross says 86 Rock Boxing Josh is also in the running for the decisions category, $50.
01:56:02
Speaker
Jose Diaz says the monster, that's who he's choosing. He doesn't like left-handed. Oh, that's not you're choosing. He says he doesn't like left-handed fighters. No, sir. That left to the chin has dropped him before.
01:56:12
Speaker
Yes, sir. And then Chip says, Ernest going upset City, baby, picking. Yeah, I guess at this point, if you want the win, right, you got to go against the grain and at least one or two of those fights where you think is like a consensus where everyone's going to go one way and you just go the other. it' hey I'm the dude that hits those most of the time.
01:56:32
Speaker
Hey, there you go. Yeah. All right. Well, hey, we appreciate y'all tuning in. I got to be done before two hours so I can try to get some AI clips on here. So we'll let the gentleman sign out. Yeah, yo, sign out, my brother.
01:56:43
Speaker
Yeah, man. Hey, look, ah happy holidays, happy Hanukkah, all that, whatever you guys celebrate. You know what mean? Personally, it's a time to to be with family and to definitely enjoy the food, be off work. You know i'm saying? And fuck them if they didn't give y'all no bonuses or no presents.
01:57:01
Speaker
You know what mean? But, hey, listen, if y'all didn't have money this year to be able to to get your kids presents and stuff, y'all need to teach them that that's not what's important. What's important is the quality time that you're spending with them, the memories you're making, the jokes you're cracking, you know, your uncle drinking too much and saying stuff he ain't supposed to. you know what mean? That's stuff you need to cherish. Love your pets. Hug on them.
01:57:24
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you know what saying? Find a homeless person. Give them a meal. Shoot them a jacket, some blankets or something like that. That's what all this is about. um We know were we're we're we're we're better than, you know, what we've been portrayed around the world. And I just feel like, you know, at this time of the year and most times of the year that we should be giving back to people and ah trying to be supportive because there are people that are going through things that y'all may not understand and just try to understand.
01:57:49
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Yeah, facts. I mean, i'm so people who watch Ball and Buds, they've they've heard me essentially say what you've said on so many occasions. There are a lot of people out there that have a lot worse lives than we do on this program.
01:58:02
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And those people need to be supported, especially during this time of need, during a holiday season where they may not have the support that we have family. And some people don't even have friends. So, you know, just give ah a smile. A kind word always helps. Even a donation or giving somebody a jacket on the street or something like Yale said is always good. make sure you find him at Poppy June Yale. Always very insightful on IG. Josh, what you got?
01:58:28
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You on mute, brother? He got the mute. That's what he got. hold up hold up he was ready too he was back yeah i was ready i had myself dred i wrote my little thing down but no uh i agree with everything that you all stated there gentlemen and yeah this is a time uh to celebrate your family all of that stuff or like i said the material things ultimately don't matter in that sense you know the fan so enjoy that time you know and we stand with everyone for sure i want shout out community kinship coalition
01:58:59
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because they've been doing their thing. They did a coat drive here recently. And as matter of fact, today was the day that they were, coat and toy drive, they were distributing everything. So we happy to be able to support that.
01:59:13
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PVA, shout out to all the PVA boxers who did their thing this year. uh potomac valley association that's in this area right here many of them went down there got some championships in the last national tournament of the year so we're doing a boxing banquet on the 27th and it's going down in heightsville maryland there palmer park really i guess you can say that palmer park where sugar ray leonard is from ultimately so You'll see that out there on the social media and all of that stuff.
01:59:39
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And yeah, outside of that, just yeah enjoy this time, you know, because that's one thing you can't get back. Time, folks. And I appreciate you. Be sure to check out the channel, all that good up good stuff. We got the Jack Dipsy shirt that I'm rocking on there. For sure.
01:59:54
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Where it works with your code will take you to the Dipsy video that I did. I'm going to be taking them down soon. So if you want one, you better go get them. I'll put a hoodie up there. Some people requested a hoodie. I'll put a hoodie up there. And then be in tune for 86boxing.com. About to have some stuff and jumping off there too for sure. But more to come in that regard. So appreciate everybody.
02:00:12
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Good to hear. somebody. Yeah, you know what? I need to hit you because need a hoodie also. I need i need i need one of those in the arsenal. I'm going hit you up later about that. I'm going to challenge anybody, everybody out there, before the year is over with, if you have any grievances with anybody or, you know, if you felt you've been done wrong or someone has done you wrong,
02:00:30
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Forgive them. Move forward for next year and and let that stuff behind it in 2025. It's going to be 2026. Start a new you. Don't just talk about it. Be about it, okay? Send a text message to somebody haven't talked to them. Say, hey, how you doing? hope you're doing well. That's it, okay? If they don't text back, at least you you did your part. Also, um to all the fancy football people out there, okay, if you're in the championship, like myself, and you're tired of your team getting screwed every – I lost Lamar Jackson. I lost Judkins. I lost Kittle. I'm still there. I'm still fighting. I'm crawling my way to the championship, and I want to get it.
02:01:04
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I probably will lose again, but I'm trying, gosh darn it, and I'm not going to quit. So y'all don't quit either. Cover the UG.
02:01:13
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Never quit. Never give up. Thank you all for everybody tuning. We really appreciate all the comments, all the love. Please hit that like button. Now, if you're still watching, hit it for us. It helps all of us here. Even if you're watching on the replay, that like button will help everybody in the algorithm. Get us out to more people that have not heard of us. So we really appreciate you tuning in. Make sure you tap in again with everybody's channels and make sure you subscribe at Ball and Buds.
02:01:39
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02:02:04
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So, um you know, y'all people you keep your people close and always tell the people that you love, that you love them because you never know when is their last day. And that being said, we love y'all and we will see y'all in 2026.
02:02:17
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Be blessed. Happy holidays and a happy new year. oh like batting
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