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On this episode Drew is joined by Dylan Heide. Dylan is a Wyoming resident that has earned his stripes teaching himself to big game hunt over the past decade.
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Introduction and Purpose
00:00:06
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You are listening to the Tricer Podcast, where we talk all things hunting, gear, and the great outdoors. Before we begin, let's start things out right and put God first. Lord Jesus, I thank you for Tricer, and I ask that you can use this podcast as a way to bring joy to all of our listeners. We lay Tricer and this podcast at your feet.
Weather and Living Conditions in Wyoming
00:00:32
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All right, another episode of the Tri-Soup Podcast joined today by Wyoming's own Dylan Hyde. So, Wyoming boy, how's the weather up there? You guys having to cool down up there right now? Yeah, we're in between the warm and the cold period, so it's about to get cold, I think.
00:00:47
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Yeah, for sure. We don't experience that. We're always warm down here in San Diego. We have deer tags this weekend. I'm excited because it's going to be 80. I'm like, all right, it's going to be 80. It's pretty cool. Yeah, rub it in. I wish it was 80 degrees. Goodness.
00:01:03
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Yeah, it's for hunting though. It's horrible, right? I mean, like you wish it was cooler and you wish you'd get some weather and some, it just doesn't ever, you don't really ever get any good weather for deer out and down here. I mean, a good deer day would be in the sixties cloudy. It just doesn't get that cold down here. You guys, I mean, you experienced like extreme winters. Yeah. Right.
00:01:21
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Yeah, Wyoming especially gets, they just get a lot of wind, like a ton of wind. So we get, even if it's 20 miles or 20 degrees outside, we get 30, 40 mile an hour winds on the daily. And it can even get worse than that, but it's just freezing cold, just ripping that ice cold wind in your face and you're like, man, why am I outside?
00:01:42
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I know you do real estate, so how does that affect you? I was always wondering, because we just got to work year-round here. When it comes February, March, April, are you guys just inside or are you out selling houses? Dude, we're selling in houses, man. It's more or less, we're selling all the non-residents that showed up and we're like, what the heck was this? This winter sucks and when they're leaving, so we're just in their houses and get them sold of the rents.
00:02:09
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So yeah, we stayed pretty much year round. It's pretty cool. But yeah, definitely. It's crazy going from February to like July, just the difference in weather. Definitely crazy.
00:02:20
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Yeah, we've been looking at some properties in Wyoming for Tricer, honestly.
Business and Career Choices
00:02:24
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I don't know if we're going to make product and make that switch, but we're probably going to get our business registered up there because, yeah, everyone's just, California, everyone just keeps leaving. But I do think it's funny when they're like, oh, I'm going to Idaho or I'm going to Wyoming. It's like, did you visit there in June or did you visit there in February? Because you probably should go up there, you know, a few different times throughout the year and see if you really want to move there. You can handle it.
00:02:47
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Wyoming alike is there's nobody here so I mean we're just I mean you're kind of left alone the most part you go to California and I mean you got people Everywhere I mean Wyoming like the town I live in it's like it's darn near the biggest city I live in Casper right in the middle of the state and there's 50,000 people here, which is a ton Wyoming But I mean shoot you drive 10 minutes north south east west and you're out of town. There's nobody to bug you I'm just I
00:03:11
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they're you in the country you know so yeah it's it's it's kind of nice i'll tolerate the wind if i mean i'm not tolerating cool so yeah it's we definitely don't have that man i drive home every day from work and traffic bumper to bumper for an hour you guys probably don't even have that many stoplights you know i guess you do in casper but it's just a bumper
00:03:32
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Yeah, no kidding. So we deal with that stuff. So tell me about you, man. You're working with tri-shirt a little bit. We got you some tripods. You're using our stuff. Seems like you're liking it. You seem like you're putting it to good use, man. I keep seeing you. I just feel like you're hunting. I don't even know how you sell houses. I feel like you were hunting all the time. Dude, that's a great question. You just don't let my clients know that.
00:03:55
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No, it's honestly a really good career choice. To kind of dive back into your first question or tell you a little bit about myself, I actually had the opportunity to get into the hunting industry a few years back and make that a career.
00:04:09
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I chose to not go into that career path for, there's several reasons, but mainly, you know, I started seeing, you know, how I wanted to raise a family and the way I wanted to raise a family personally, just didn't want to get into it with hunting and making that my full-time job. So long story short, I got into sales because I'm a people person and started selling cars and knew I wanted to sell something that didn't depreciate over time. So cars was definitely not it, but you know, I got to learn some pretty good sales.
00:04:38
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Then I got into house sales about a year and a half ago. Man, I just love it. It just clicks for me. The nice part about it, I'm a business owner, so I'm my own boss. I get to determine my days off. When I don't want to come to work or when I do want to come to work, obviously, if there's somebody that's a high priority to me wanting to look at houses and stuff, I'm obviously making it a high priority and showing them houses and such. When times are slow, I get to go out and hunt.
00:05:04
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So I get to use that opportunity of when it's slow and there's not much going on, I can go out and hunt. When there's stuff going on, I'm just calling to work. So kind of works out pretty good. Just don't show any houses before like 11am and you're probably pretty good to go. As long as you don't kill something, you got to pack an elk out or something, you're probably pretty good.
00:05:23
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Yeah, the nice part is I built some good relationships with other realtors. I mean, worst case scenario, if I had like a client that was like, dude, I got a look at a house right now. I'm like, bro, I'm backpacked into an Elcon right now. I can't help you. Sucks to suck. No, I don't say that. I'm just like, hey, I got another realtor that's in town right now. They can show you the house and then they can kind of work the deal. And in the back, I'll just pick up where you guys left off. So.
00:05:46
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And then obviously I can help out that agent, give him a spiff or something, you know, percentage off the dealer in any way. Yeah.
00:05:53
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help each other out that way. It all works out. I imagine up there, because in San Diego, it's taboo. If you hunt, it's taboo, especially in California. It's just not common. There's millions of people here. Even though, I think we have more hunters in the state than you guys have residents. Compared to population, it's a small number. It's taboo. I imagine in Wyoming, a lot of you guys hunt. It's probably not uncommon for me, like, oh, I'm out elk hunting. It's not weird. I tell somebody to hunt here, and they're like, oh, what? No way.
00:06:23
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kill stuff. It's probably more common up there. They probably have a little bit more grace for it, I guess, than we would down here. Yeah, no doubt. It seems like what we've done the map on, it's like one out of every three people has gone on a hunt here in Wyoming in their lifetime, at some point in time. Everybody knows that this is like a hunting state. It's definitely a common theme. It's definitely a thing for sure.
00:06:48
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The one thing I will say, though, is choosing this as a career path. Nobody that I know of that hunts as much as I do has made this their career path. And I find that really surprising because this is a really good career path for somebody to make a ton of money and to enjoy the time in the outdoors that they want to enjoy themselves. So it's that part shocking to me that nobody's done that, especially here in Wyoming.
00:07:14
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Most people are working a day job, nine to five, and they're like, man, I wish I could get tomorrow off because I've got a big bowl spotted, but I can't get in there until Sunday. I'm like, well, where's he at? I'll go kill him.
00:07:31
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Yeah, it does give you that freedom. My brother-in-law does real estate, and he actually opened up his own loans company, too. He had real estate for years, and now he does loans. He gets to take off a lot of time. My sister's always posting pictures and videos, and they're hiking in the morning and drinking coffee by the pool. I'm like, damn, I got up at 4 a.m. and drove an hour to work.
00:07:51
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You definitely get a little more freedom with that. Yeah, that's neat, man. I got to get with you too, because I've got a bunch of points up there. I know you guys all hunt. You guys are making it really hard on non-residents to come up there and hunt now. They're making it harder and harder on us. I got to get with you, because if I'm with you, can I go to wilderness area? I actually don't have the answer to that question, but I don't hunt any wilderness areas. Oh, you don't? That might be... No, I don't. You got grizzly bears, you're dealing with in wilderness areas.
00:08:19
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So I won't deal with them. A lot of residents will, but I'm never in there hunting with grizzly bears. So I've got other units that you get in town that
00:08:28
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I could, you know, I worry about bears. I'll have to talk to him about my point and see what we're going to do. I never showed an antelope. Like down here, like, so California, it's like a 15, 20 year tag to draw that. And same thing with Arizona. So it's, but up there, they're like, like rabbits, right? I mean, they're everywhere and everyone goes and gets to antelope. Every year you go get an antelope, right? That's one of the things you guys do, right?
00:08:49
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So I'm glad you brought that up. Really interesting. It's funny, every podcast I ever talk on, this is always a topic of conversation. So I feel like I've gotten a lot of information out there and this is going to be something good for you. Residents like tree antelope hunting, like it's just a given and they don't care. They just apply for it, get a tag. And it's literally so easy that you could drive out and kill an antelope for five minutes.
00:09:16
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And the thing about this, residents have no idea what they got. They have no freaking clue, like how good it is here for Antelope. You go any other state, literally, and it takes years of reference points or years of just applying to get a tag to just have an opportunity to shoot an antelope, not just like a really good buck.
Hunting in Wyoming
00:09:38
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There's units here, like as a resident, we can draw it and it's like 70, 80% drawing odds is like,
00:09:45
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a top 10 unit in vinyl and if you don't draw you got second choice options to pick from and there's always leftover tags that a residence can pick up and dude it's literally so simple you just go out and shoot an antelope but I it's literally actually my favorite kind of hunt because when you actually learn the behaviors of antelope and how to hunt them what a big buck actually is stuff like that
00:10:08
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It's so much fun. It's unbelievable. I mean, you can find the same antelope every single day, like the same buck. If you went in April, you could find that same buck. He doesn't leave his little hill, his little sagebrush hill. He stays right there the entire year and you could go out and shoot him. So the hard part is just keeping eyes on him and going out and staying consistent and putting that work in and then patterning him and the whole nine.
00:10:32
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But I mean, he's in the wide open, so it's not like you're losing him like an elf in the trees. You have no idea if you're ever going to see him again. Like, you will see him a hundred percent, but you just got to learn their behaviors, what they do, and you do it. It's so much fun. I just love antelope hunting so much.
00:10:46
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Yeah, I gotta come up there and do that. It's on my list for sure. Like I said, I think I have like six or seven points for Antelope now out there. I gotta come do it. I had Rocky, what's that? You need to just spend them, man. I will, I'll talk to you and figure out where I'm going. I'll come up there and do it. So I have, I had Rocky did a Monty on. His brothers shed crazy. He was on like last week and he was like, yeah, they're all two points.
00:11:09
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on the antelope. He's like, yeah, I don't really care. They're all two points. I just shoot them. I'm not picky. It's a good way to put it. But yeah, I got, I got to get up there and do it. I had some friends do it a few years back. How, your, your boots on the ground up there, you just went through like this gnarly winter. How did it affect the, the antelope and the mule deer? Like, what do you see it? Are you seeing every, they make it sound like every antelope is dead. Is that true?
00:11:32
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Right. Here's the thing, I'm gonna piss a lot of people off by saying this, but really, the social media blew that winner we just had way up. I mean, dude, there's plenty animals out there. And I've gotten into all kinds of arguments with people over social media that are like, yeah, the deer herd's down, don't give out any tags, blah blah.
00:11:51
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And do I agree that the game and fish is good about managing our deer herd? Absolutely not. Like, they're horrible. But there's still plenty of deer around. Now I do know the west side of the state. I went shed hunting over there one time this year. And there was like, cuts and valleys just loaded with 10-12 deer just dead. So, I mean, yeah, I did hit them hard pretty much over there. Utah got hit pretty hard. That whole like border area, right? That whole area's got hit pretty, pretty good. But dude, I mean,
00:12:19
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There's still, there's still a good amount of animals running around. An antelope didn't get hit near that hard. Like I said, it's going to piss a lot of people off saying that because there are some people that are very passionate about this whole topic and they just think that they, you know, if you go drive around, you won't see any animals. Well, dude, I'm out there every fricking day. I see animals every time I'm out. So it's not true, but whatever. I mean, I'm sure it affected the population a little bit, but I mean, it's not enough to put an extinction on our animals, you know? So.
00:12:48
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I would say a worse issue is like CWD and deer. That's way worse than our window just had. Really? So you're seeing that? You're seeing CWD and deer? Oh yeah. Our CWD is pretty bad around here. I would argue that
00:13:03
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Like I said, CWD is worse than our winter we just had. The kind of the nice part about these winters that we just had is these brutal winters, like, I mean, only the strong survive, right? If something's got chronic wasting disease, and it's going to try and live through the winter, we have a pretty mild winter, then it's going to probably live and then pass that.
00:13:19
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cwd threw on in genes or however it's passed along versus you have a big big winner that comes in and kills that animal and then boom that one less deer has cwd and that happens tenfold you know through the population of deer so it wiped out a lot of our cwd deer but i mean they're still quite around so big winners sometimes are definitely helpful for our deer population i would say
00:13:41
Speaker
And that's actually a really good take. I don't know the like the redneck science on that, but I haven't heard that. That's a good take on like the CWD and the witchers like taking them out. Like that's, it is a good take on that. And I didn't think about that. I guess God has a way of sorting this stuff out, you know, and that is kind of a, that's a good take on that for sure. I didn't even thought about it like that.
00:13:58
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Yeah, I mean, it's definitely, you know, definitely throughout the Bible, it says that the world's going to continue to get worse. So I can't sit here and say the population is going to get better or whatever. I mean, I could imagine it's probably going to get worse, but I don't, I don't know. We could only kind of play with the cards that were given, you know, so. Yeah. So now on Hot N' Up Day, we talked about mule deer, we talked about antelope. I know you guys got whitetails, too, over like on the eastern side. Are you hunting whitetails at all up there, too, or no?
00:14:26
Speaker
I actually, I really prefer to not hunt white tail if I can. I mean, so here's my mentality on white tail, and this is actually probably most residents. Our big thing around here is mule deer. It's really like to hunt mule deer. I think more people are concerned with the population of mule deer and the genes that are going around, blah, blah, blah. So that being said, most people, you only have like a six-day rifle season. It's like central part of Wyoming, and most of the other season's only like 15 days or more parts of the states.
00:14:52
Speaker
So the reason that's relevant is because, you know, these residents will go through and hunt mule deer for 15 days with their rifle. They see something small. Most of the time they don't shoot him. They'll just wait till whitetail season comes around, which is in November. And that's also a general tag. And then they'll just go pop a whitetail because they hate whitetails. And whitetails, in theory, taste better. I don't know if it's true or not, but, you know, that's what everybody thinks is that whitetails taste better. And so they'll
00:15:17
Speaker
just go and pop a whitetail with their general tag and just call it a hunting season. That's at least most people just really want mule deer, so they'll just go shoot any mule deer if they can. So whitetail are on the same general tag as mule deer, but it's a separate season for whitetail? Yep. Oh, that's kind of cool. So it's like if you don't get a mule deer, you can now go out and try and get a whitetail. It's similar hunting, right? Yeah, it is. The part that sucks is that we don't get a hunt mule deer here.
00:15:45
Speaker
which is really weird. Everywhere you hear of animals getting hunted in the rut, that's just the thing. But in Wyoming, they're like, nope, absolutely no way. So we don't see any of the mature mule deer until like November, which you can't hunt them. And it's like, oh my gosh, this unit does have big bucks. Where the freak were they, you know? And I just holler, just go shoot a whitetail, like whatever. But yeah, it's definitely different, different than other states. Because I mean, Montana, they're over the counter season. It's November when they're rutting, so.
00:16:12
Speaker
I don't know about no mature mule deer, man. I've been seeing some pictures you've been posting. They look pretty darn mature, the stuff you've been killing. The one behind you looks pretty good. Pretty good with my cam. I make it look bigger than I really do. Oh, fishing? Yeah, you hold it just close to the... It's a giant, you know?
00:16:29
Speaker
I like it. All right, dude, so we kind of beat around the bush a little bit, got some stuff out of you, did some dirt on Wyoming. Tell me about you. How did you get into hunting? How did you get into hunting? Tell me your first deer story. Sure. Yeah, that's a good topic, actually. Really weird. I was actually not raised in a hunting family. Now, that being said, it's not like a California non-hunting family.
00:16:54
Speaker
Thanks. No, I'm just saying like, when you hear that, it's not like my dad was around hunting his whole life. He's killed a deer and like an antelope, which no big deal, right? Whatever. But my dad, the only antelope ever shot, one shot, just a quick side story. The only antelope he ever went and shot, shot his first antelope, whatever, and he brought it home. They went and scored it. Made Boone and Crockett, 85 inch antelope. He had no idea. Okay, cool. What do we do with the horns? Throw them away? My grandpa's like,
00:17:22
Speaker
No, I'm children mounting this. Long story short, I have it. It's sitting in my garage. I'm sitting there wishing I had the opportunity to kill an 85 inch antelope, and I hunt antelope every year, and I've never seen an 85 inch antelope in my life. So my dad, just the typical Wyoming guy, just took it for granted, like, oh, whatever, you know?
00:17:42
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But it's cool though because I feel like my passion really came from myself coming from just sticking out in all of everything I know by myself. My grandpa kind of shown me a little bit, my other grandpa did too, but my passions didn't come from that. My passions came from just going out by myself, learning the hills.
00:18:03
Speaker
understanding a specific mountain range and where the deer go. Deer hunting is actually what got me into really enjoying hunting in general.
Dylan's Hunting Journey
00:18:13
Speaker
So yeah, when I was 15, went out and started hunting general deer. I started archery hunting pretty quickly after that too. My very first hunt I went on was actually with my dad and my grandpa because I'd been begging and begging and begging for them to take me along when I was 14 and I couldn't drive at the time so they took me out.
00:18:30
Speaker
found the first buck that they saw I told me go shoot him I shot him and I was like okay I've got to go out really hunt myself that was forward like whatever dude you know so yeah I went out actually the deer behind me right here I drew it actually a decent tag at the time went out did all that by myself and hunted shot him when I was like 16 but yeah just
00:18:50
Speaker
Just learning stuff by yourself. I mean, it wasn't somebody didn't pass it down to me and have all this knowledge and you know, I also kind of figured out social media at the same time how to grow my following get you know, a decent sized page going like relatively about the same time so I incorporated it into hunting and
00:19:09
Speaker
Everyone always gave, gives me crap. You're like, you don't kill big animals and blah, blah, blah. You got this big page, but you're just a fake blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm trying to learn like everything I can by myself. Like I, I don't have anybody showing me this crap. Like you probably were raised with people that about 30 years of experience. So they know what to do. And I have no freaking idea what I'm doing, but I'm just putting a backpack on and going, you know,
00:19:36
Speaker
Definitely interesting how that perspective is how it is in the hunting industry. Yeah, I had the same experience. I started hunting at 13. My dad doesn't hunt at all. I used to just watch Bill Dance and watch those
00:19:53
Speaker
hunting shows in the morning. Jim Shockey you know before school get up at like 5am watching shows before I go to school and I went and got my own hunting license and then I found one of my dad's friends taking me bird hunting. It's all I bird hunted up until I was like probably 28. I always wanted a big game. I had no idea how to do it. I finally ended up getting on a hunting forum so shout out to SCH outdoors here in San Diego. Look at the local guys.
00:20:12
Speaker
hunting forum, you know, and started talking to them and just learning. And I just got a deer tag and went out and a couple of years upon they got a deer, you know, and I'm not shooting monsters by any means. I mean, I'm at a point now in my hunting career, you know, I've been big game hunting now for about 10 years, where I'm finding animals and killing animals, right? Like, I'm confident, like, if I go to Arizona next month, my boys, we're gonna find bucks, and we're probably gonna kill bucks.
00:20:36
Speaker
But I'm still not at the point where I'm shooting 120 ish goosdeer, you know, I want to I'm working on getting there and I'm trying my best to find them. But it's it's fun, man. And screw the Internet, man. Screw people on your social media. You know, like I'm at a point now, like with mine, like.
00:20:52
Speaker
I've just decided with Tricer, I'm just not going to care. And if I just don't care from the beginning, it will never matter. So if someone says something crappy, I just call them out. I don't even care. I'd rather be that way than let everything eat me alive. People suck. No matter what you do, people are going to say something about your stuff, or people are going to complain, or like with our stuff, oh, it's too expensive, or oh, it's this or that. People are just keyboard warriors, man. You just can't let them get to you. It's like, whatever. I don't care what you say.
00:21:21
Speaker
That deer on the wall behind is a great deer. It looks like his eye guards fell off, but he's a great deer, so a giant buck with no eye guard. I'm looking at him like, where are the eye guards out of that thing, dude? Right here. There you go. There you go. Put them on there. Put them on there, yeah. Dude, that's a giant. That's a great buck, dude. That's a freaking 170-inch mule deer behind you or something. It's a good deer. It's definitely interesting.
00:21:44
Speaker
it's not freaking internet dude it's stupid it's tough though man to not let it get to you I mean it honestly is because sometimes it's the same topics over and over and over again you're just like dude like am I doing something wrong here like was I supposed to like know all this stuff before going out
00:22:02
Speaker
You know, just stuff that you're just like, why is the same things kind of coming up over and over again sometimes? But, I mean, at the same time, people that don't have social media, that I agree with in their topics with stuff, they don't have it. But, I mean, it is what it is at the end of the day.
00:22:16
Speaker
everyone's to each their own. Everyone have their own opinion about stuff. So whatever, man. Put your head down and just keep going. My favorite comment is always like, man, would have been a great buck next year. It's like, dude, my kid shot his first deer. Screw you.
00:22:32
Speaker
I don't care. No matter what you shoot, people are going to say something, right? Or you should have did this. It's like this whole public land, DIY, went deep. I'm the best. It's just like, man, everyone's not as freaking bad as they say they are on social media. You know what I mean? It's easy to look awesome on there. It's easy to sound tough on there. Man, hunters shouldn't be going after each other, for one thing. They should be supporting each other, not going after each other.
00:23:00
Speaker
I think what you're doing is awesome, man. I think you're killing a bunch of really good deer. I mean, upper percentages of animals. Deer, you got, I think you killed moose. You guys, can you kill a sheep too? I have not. I actually have not killed, this is my grandpa's moose. I have not killed a moose yet. Look, but I'll, it'll probably be in the next few years. It's in the making. So I got some, I got like 15 points. Oh wow. So that's a shyroof on the wall behind you. Yeah. Yeah. Actually a moose that my grandpa would not have killed if it wasn't for
00:23:28
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me getting out of his house and dragging him down where I knew a bull was and he freaking shot him. Yeah, it's funny. But oh, I'm sorry. All right. So you got your, you got your first gear. You've been, how long are you in big game? I've seen a big game out for 15 years plus, right?
00:23:46
Speaker
I'm only 24. 24? I thought you were 30. 10 years. You've been there for 10 years. Yeah, young pup. Just a young pup. I got I got Oh, go ahead. No, you're doing great. And 24 years old, you're killing a lot of animals, man. Your cage is pretty awesome. I'm trying. You got to keep people happy when they stay happy. No, I just want I just like honestly, I the only reason I even keep it going is I just like looking back on myself and seeing
00:24:12
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all the pictures and stuff myself instead of having it on my phone. I use Instagram as almost my gallery. I just kind of look back at where I was mentally and where I was in the time of the hunt. And yeah, that's what I use it for. I don't know if everybody uses it that way. They just use it to show off or whatever, but that's genuinely, I'm just going back and reliving those memories in any way I can. Yeah, I got my wife in hunting. Actually, she was the same way. She grew up in a non-hunting home. So when I started dating her in high school,
00:24:40
Speaker
We got into hunting or got her into hunting and she kills way bigger animals than I do. So that's just how it goes, man. But yeah, she likes it. She likes it a lot too and it's a good bonding experience we get to have. So definitely cool. You guys have kids yet? Yeah, we've got one little girl upstairs. She's two and a half and then we've got a baby boy on them.
00:25:00
Speaker
Nice. Good for you, dude. When's, when's he doing? February. Gotcha. So I had, so someone had told me, like someone else was telling me like, you guys all make your kids in that cold season I was talking about. I think you guys all make your kids. So there's something about that, that like April, March time from the year where you guys are stuck in the house. You guys make babies and then after hunting season. Yeah, dude. I mean, we're smart. We just, we, we know when to, when to make them come out and it's not during September to December, you know, when we're hunting.
00:25:27
Speaker
No, I don't. Something in the water, man. My buddy Jake, he's gonna listen to this. He's with my son right now hunting in Utah. He has like three kids in September or something crazy. It's like, dude, what are you thinking, man? Wasn't planned out. Wasn't planned out well. Part of like God giving a breath of life to everyone. He's probably sitting there going, yeah, Jake.
00:25:51
Speaker
It sucks to suck, buddy, but it's gonna happen in September, man. Sorry. It is what it is. It is what it is, dude. It's a good way to humble him. All right, so tell me about, like, give me a good hunting story. Tell me about your favorite hunt. It could be, he doesn't need to be successful. It could be a big deer. It could be just, it doesn't need deer. I mean, whatever it is, some of your favorite hunt.
00:26:07
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Yeah, my favorite hunt was actually
Memorable Hunts and Gear
00:26:10
Speaker
with my wife. It wasn't my tag, it was her tag. And I don't know why it sticks with me. There's not really anything super special to the story besides just the moment and how it felt, you know? But we were Analo Funny, and this is the main reason why Analo Funny's my favorite. Just started kind of getting into that learning curve of how to find the same buck over and over and over. We covered so much country, dude, looking for a good buck for her. And she had already had her first buck, so she was looking for something bigger.
00:26:36
Speaker
and we were just finding dinks like little two points as you say you know we were just seeing dinks everywhere nothing nothing big and we finally stumbled upon an area where we might have found something was decent we got close and found out just one side was broke off and i'm like this is horrible like whatever so she was just like ready to just end it right just be like i'm just gonna shoot next buck you see and i was like really
00:27:01
Speaker
She's like, yeah. I was like, you know, somebody just told me that whenever that moment happens, that you're ready to throw in the towel, you need to push on it. Like, this always is the turning point. Okay, we'll give it to the end of the day and see if we see anything else. Okay, great. Your patience lasts another four hours. Great. Like, whatever.
00:27:17
Speaker
Dude, it's all we need. Real quick, real quick. When you guys are glassing for Antelope, are you guys running like big glass or what are you guys using to glass these things? So, I use this tripod company called Tricer Tripods. I got you, okay. It's awesome. That was what I was looking for, but thanks for the plug. I was talking more about the optics, but yeah, go ahead.
00:27:40
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had to throw
00:27:52
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that's why
00:28:11
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you just when you see a big buck which are very too far between but when you find them you just freaking know you're like oh my gosh what is that thing like holy cow and this thing just gave us the wow factor like made us shaken like in the truck like we're opening the door trying to get our orange hats on it's blowing 70 miles an hour and all of our hunter management papers and licenses just blow out of the truck and there goes our hats and our vests and scrambling to grab all this and meanwhile that buck's like bro
00:28:40
Speaker
See ya, and he just takes off you know and we're that put us on the chase like we put on probably You know eight or nine stocks like to the point where it got dark and see him anymore So we wanted to come out after church the next day so
00:28:55
Speaker
We went to church, next day came out, found him again, and we hunted him, put another like five or six stocks on him, and he was like chasing does because this is during the rut, just chasing does and gone, right? Completely gone. And just so you know, like the buck wasn't the one skidded with those. I don't know what it is with those, but antelope there, every single species has their own sense that they're like,
00:29:16
Speaker
really tuned in with. An elk, theirs is smelt. So they're like super blind. That's why you see people on YouTube standing in the trees and they're like walking right by. They can't frequency anything that's moving, that's not moving. So elk are blind, but they can smell you. You're up wind from them. You're not going to shoot an elk. You're down wind. You're good. Gucci.
00:29:36
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You'll hear their hearing is really good. They'll hear you like long before you'd even know that there's a deer even in the country so That's their biggest thing they use a little bit of their smell as well and then as well sight so they're kind of little tuned into all three But hearing is definitely the number one but antelope dude their vision is phenomenal. Oh my gosh They will see you from like six miles away people
00:29:59
Speaker
peeking over a hill. Here's the hill and you're like, and they're gone. Meow. But they just seen you. If you ever cut open an eye, they have this little like magnifying glass literally inside their eyeball. If you put it on the newspaper, yeah, it'll blow up the letters like cute. It's pretty cool. Really? Are you- Is this out with a bow or the rifle right now with your wife?
00:30:19
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. It's extremely hard to get close to an antelope or bow. If you see people that are killing antelope with their bow, they're probably going out and finding the dumb ones that just like can't see you because vision's messed up or something. And they're like, yeah, we've got an antelope with my bow. But I can bet you money that they're not going out and finding a specific buck, like a normal buck that they're wanting to shoot and staying on it. It's impossible. He gets shot out the first time. He will not give you 150 yards.
00:30:47
Speaker
You're you're gonna be it's so tough. So anyway going back into the story the this thing gave us the runaround start chasing does and Grace is like I'm giving up. I don't want to do it anymore
00:30:59
Speaker
All right, let's go home. Like we just kind of, that's how defeated we felt. We put on so many stops with this thing and they just seen us and they kept running, wouldn't give her a steady shot. And we're like, all right, let's leave. So we started leaving and literally on our way out, those does ran way down the bottom, kind of close to where the truck was, like 700 yards away. And I glass and that big buck wasn't in there. I'm like, where'd he go? What the heck? But there's another buck in there. I'm like, Grace, I bet this other buck just kicked him out.
00:31:26
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so he's probably like tired of running he's probably gonna go lay down somewhere so we like turn around and start driving back up the hill sure enough he only he laid down like right down in the bottom of that hill just tired from running and fighting whatever so we had our opportunity we snuck all the way up to 80 yards
00:31:44
Speaker
And she's able to lay against a sagebrush. The only thing she could see was the back of his head. And I told her, just shoot him right below his head. Shoot him right in the neck. She popped him in the head. This is all on YouTube, by the way. It's pretty cool. She pops him right below the head. He stands up. She shoots him again. We're like super stoked. He's dead. Walk up to him. Just giant. Big old antelope man. Just so cool. It's cutters the size of your hand.
00:32:08
Speaker
Unbelievable, but it was so cool going through so many downs Finally you get that like that thing that I guess that moment that just goes for you Like it just all came together, you know
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'd say that's my favorite hunt. He ended up scoring, he scores right at about 80 inches. He'd be 81 and a half if he wasn't broke off the back end. And dude, it's just, he used to buck for the lifetime. I mean, a lot of people, you can't shoot 80 inch antelope, but they're just so hard to come by if they are. So it's 80 inches, that's B and C, right? 80 inches is B and C for antelope? That's the annual awards. So like all time is 82. So yeah, it's,
00:32:47
Speaker
But comparatively speaking, that's a 360 inch pole. So I mean, it's a that's awesome. Yeah. What is it? What is your wife shooting? What caliber? She shoots a 6.5 Creedmoor. It's a Creedmoor. What rifle? Curious rifle scope.
00:33:02
Speaker
What's that? The Weatherby Camilla. Weatherby Camilla. Okay, I'm free with that rifle. It's super, it's lightweight too, right? Yeah, it's built exactly for a woman. So it's got a short stock and it's like tailored made for a female. Yeah, dude, she loves that guy. That thing shoots so good. I like shooting it. So it's a sweet gun, dude. And you were saying that you were sponsored by Burris, right? That's what you were saying? Yep. So are you running their rifle scopes as well or just their spotters?
00:33:29
Speaker
yeah everything everything okay everything yeah yeah go ahead oh go ahead give him a plug I want to hear I haven't run run their stuff really on my rifles I have a few friends you like their scopes a lot so I give it goes a plug on the bursts on their rifle scopes and I want to hear about it
00:33:44
Speaker
And so they're like, their main thing, their focus is actually kind of technology based. They're probably their top sellers, their eliminator. I mean, it's got a built in rangefinder in the scope. So you got something at 673 yards, you don't have to adjust the top dial or anything, you just push the button, it gives you your whole dot, you just aim the dot on the animal. So probably is the best rifle scope I would say on the market.
00:34:10
Speaker
hands down for somebody that likes to just make something really simple. You know, it takes a little bit of prep work up front. It's nothing crazy. Just plugging in, you know, your muzzle velocity and stuff like that. Just plugging in some information and to give you your stuff. And then you go test it out in range. And if it's shooting high, you just bring it up, shooting low, you go down, whatever.
00:34:30
Speaker
then when you're good to go, do that thing's dialed and you're ready to go. It's sweet. They got a couple other, they just came out with their pH system, their voracity pH. That one has a separate range finder that you just range. It tells you what to dial it to. So you can have a dope card too, or you can just look through the scope and it says, dial it to 12.7.
00:34:50
Speaker
So you just dial up 12.7, boom. Or you can use it as a normal scope to just block your dope card and turn it from there. So, but no, I would say their glass is awesome. I mean, it's not going to be like stupid high quality, like Swarovski or anything like that. But I mean, they're out of Colorado. It's not overseas or anything. They're a US company. And the guys, this is the reason I stick with them. The guys there are just super cool. I mean, they're just hands down like the nicest human beings out there. So.
00:35:20
Speaker
That's probably, that really goes a long ways. I mean, you, I've got, there's companies out there I used to buy from because they're like all about attacking people on social media and all about like just being the big bag hunter, you know, type personality. And I'm just not for that, you know, I'm like, whatever.
00:35:39
Speaker
You know, I'd rather try and side with the average Joe if I could, you know, and accept everybody, you know, and that's kind of their, they're very like just open and cool to talk to. So yeah, I got to check them out for sure. That scope sounds intriguing. That limiter scope sounds kind of intriguing. It sounds intriguing for a muzzleloader as well. It's kind of cool.
00:36:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. As for the hunting industry, yeah, it's a cutthroat industry, man. I had no idea until I got into it. I can give you a list of companies you'd like to be big and bad. But the cool thing about Tricer is now is we're trying to get bigger and badder, so it's like, keep swinging at us, you know? But yeah, it's pretty cutthroat. People are out there. I mean, I had a guy go on to one of my ads the other day and just start hammering us on. The inverted legs are scientifically proven to not be stronger.
00:36:25
Speaker
I'm like, man, this guy is passionate. I look him up and it turns out he owns one of my competitors. He was his hammer, man. I was like the best engineer. I ended up pulling it down because I already called him out. I was like, dude, like if you're going to do it, what do you do for your company page instead of your personal, you know? He's just upset about us.
00:36:41
Speaker
us building stuff and taking business from them. I was like, just give me a call if you're upset about it, but I'm not going to stop. Why are you doing this to me? Honestly, you're writing this stuff down and I've got 5,000 tripods in the market who people say differently. They say it's the strongest tripod on the market. I don't care what your science says, you're wrong. It's a cutthroat industry, man. People are always trying to come at us, big companies. From day one, some shy companies come after us.
00:37:07
Speaker
It used to really bother me. It used to really get me worked up, and now it makes me happy. Now I just have to talk about it. Yeah, that's awesome. I can tell you a lot of different experiences with tripod companies. I don't know what it is with the tripod industry. I have no freaking clue. Who would have thought that would have been a sour patch. It's brutal. Dude, it's stupid. I've reached out to a couple way back, probably three or four years ago, talking about partnering with them, going to the
00:37:34
Speaker
you know, Hun Expo. They're freaking rude, dude. Like, holy moly. Like, it's one thing to say, nah, we're good. It's another to just be like, like, just completely arrogant and fool yourself and just freaking throwing you to the curb, like, wow. I don't know. Just, definitely, I've had those run-ins. Nothing probably as bad as you have, I'm sure, being that thing in the actual, like, tripod industry. Plus,
00:37:56
Speaker
Yeah i think there's a couple of them who thought they were the only guys to make hunting tripods and then we came out and just made a better hunting tripod and they're not too happy with us but yeah as for being rude to people too man like i like being a company for the people like i love giving out like you know writing an handwritten card every one of our packages
00:38:15
Speaker
I love talking to our customers like I'm doing right now with you and just do it. That's why I'm doing all these podcasts you're seeing. It's not famous dudes on here. It's just dudes who like to hunt, man. And I like that. And I don't want to lose that. I don't want people to ever think that we're untouchable like that. I don't want to ever feel like I'm better than people,
Innovation and Industry Growth
00:38:31
Speaker
man. It wasn't for customers.
00:38:32
Speaker
Tricer wouldn't be where it is today. Tricer is going to continue to grow over the next few years. We're really starting to get momentum. It's not in spite of customers. It's not because I'm great. It's because we have great customers using our stuff and talking about it. You can't lose focus on that. I think what happens, you get so established in this industry, you feel untouchable and you feel like, I'm the best and you have to use my stuff. If you're not using my stuff, that stuff sucks.
00:38:57
Speaker
I talked to him about today. It's almost like this like Ford and Chevy thing. It's like, well, Chevy suck. Well, why? Well, cause I have a Ford. It's like, man, the Ford's pretty, the Chevy's pretty good too. You know, it's like, everyone has good stuff. And I think it's so great for our competitors to be innovating things and making things.
00:39:13
Speaker
And I mean, honestly, with Tricer, we're kind of forcing people's hands to force them to change, which is a good thing. You need that. If you don't have competition, you're always going to be stuck with the same thing. And I want to see people creating, innovating things. And that's what I told this guy the other day, he was hammering me on social media. I messaged him and I gave him a phone number. I was like, man, I like what you're doing. I think it's great. I don't know why you're coming after me. I'm just pushing the industry forward. And he was upset about something that wasn't even true. So I actually talked to him about it.
00:39:40
Speaker
He thought I was coming after him. And I was like, dude, honestly, I really don't even know who you are. I've seen you watch it twice. That's not a shot at him by any means at all. But he was just upset about something. And I was just like, dude, don't come after me. Keep creating stuff, dude. I support you. And I want to see you do good. And the more we work together to innovate things and do things, the bigger this space is going to become. Because the tripod industry is still small. We're still on the fledgling stages. And we really are at Tricer. We're coming to awesome stuff that's just next level, next level of minds.
00:40:09
Speaker
Our stuff right now is already next level. It's rad. But some of this new stuff coming out is just like what the heck? It's awesome. And that's gonna drive the industry forward, you know? Yeah, I've been seeing you guys coming out and stuff. You keep posting stuff. I'm like, man, these guys are like, they're they're thinking like you're not just making a dang tripod like you're making these cool adapters and stuff that you can actually use that a lot of people would be like, oh my gosh, this is so handy.
00:40:33
Speaker
That's what's really cool about you so far, I really like. Dude, these guys, they're thinkers. They didn't just make a product and they're like, oh wait a minute. They're thinking ahead. They're like, we're making stuff that nobody else is thinking about. Like, cool, you made a tripod. You start thinking of all these cool things to actually add to them and then how to make those tripods better.
00:40:56
Speaker
that's just going to drive you forward. I don't think a lot of people have that mentality, so it's definitely a seed. Oh, yeah, man. I really get off on creating new stuff, right? So the answer I think we're trying to do is a lot of these big guys are just kind of taking their money and pocketing it, and every penny I make, I'm putting back into new products and marketing and growing this thing, and that's what's fun, right?
00:41:16
Speaker
But it is this weird space where it's like, you know, you got 20 car manufacturers and no one's like, I can't believe Elon Musk is copying the car industry. But I come out with like, I came out with this rifle clamp, right? And they're like, you're stealing it from this company here. Well, it's like, well, yeah, those guys might have made the first one, but you know, there's this polymer and it's twice the size and it doesn't have ARCA built into it. And, you know, my truck, my rifle clamp is 9.7 ounces.
00:41:42
Speaker
It's billet aluminum. It's only three inches long and three inches wide. So it fits basically in your pocket, you know, and it has arc of real built into the whole bottom of it. Like it's just, it's the next stage of where that first clamp should have went. And a lot of times when you create something, that's where you, you peak, you peak there, right? And then it takes innovation, which is taking your products and making it better to really grow the industry. And that's what I like to do is grow the industry. I'm not out there trying to steal people's things.
00:42:07
Speaker
you know by any means but people get upset it's like I'm the only one that can make a rifle clamp well no that's not true yeah I'm gonna make one too and I'm gonna try and make it better than what you're doing hopefully it'll push you to make something even better than that and we'll just continue to grow um there's room for that man but people just yeah it's a weird industry dude but it's fun it's cool seeing guys like you using our stuff man and like using our you're taking all these pictures our game bags you put our game bags with major use um
00:42:30
Speaker
I know I wasn't expecting to put use that quick, but Rick man, I've used them like six times already helping other people and just whatever the heck I need to do man. Holy moly. Oh, they're holding up, they're holding up good, huh? They're holding up, they're holding up great. The only thing that I have an issue with is just being lazy to wash them. They're sitting in my main garage right now, they need to wash.
00:42:51
Speaker
So I, what I do is I just soak them in a cooler with, cause normally like you have a cooler full of blood. So I wash that cooler out and then I'll throw oxy clean in the cooler with the game bags and the oxy clean is not pretty darn good. And I'll throw them in the, I turn them inside out when I wash them. So turn them inside out. That way it doesn't mess up like the reflective stuff on them. And I just throw them in the washer and wash them on like, if I, if I don't, I can wash my hand too, but I'll throw them in the washer and put them on like a real delicate load and let them go. And then I hang them. I don't dry them in the dryer. I just hang them and you know, whatever.
00:43:18
Speaker
I'm not too picky though. If there's a little bit of stain on my game bags, I don't care. I mean, it's like my backpack is pretty clean, but there's pretty much always blood on it somewhere, you know?
00:43:28
Speaker
Man, that's awesome, dude. That was a fun podcast. I'm going to come to Wyoming and go antelope hunting with you. I got a bunch of points. I got to show you my points. I'll come up there, and you just make it sound really easy. So I got to come up and do it at some point. Yeah, you're going to be like, what do I do? Which one do I shoot? I'll be like, none of them. You're like, dude, there's 100 of them, right? You're like, nope. Stay patient. You're like, no, dude, I don't have one of these on my wall. I promise. I've done this 100 times with people. Really? It's like, dude, it's awesome. Freaking antelope the best.
00:43:56
Speaker
I got to come up there and do it. Yeah, I'll send you one of those messages like, I'm not looking for a honey hole, but I'm not looking for your, I'm not looking for your best spot, but you know, can you point me in the right direction? I'll hit you up and come up there. So plug yourself, dude. Plug your Instagram. You have a YouTube channel as well. Plug a YouTube channel. Where can we find you? Where can we see all these things you're killing? Yeah, just by me, actually two platforms, but I'm actually starting to use threads quite a bit
Social Media and Engagement
00:44:24
Speaker
too. I actually like them. Really?
00:44:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's actually been quite enjoyable, similar to other social medias. But Instagram is my main platform, which is find me at Fish Hunt Wyo, literally Fish Hunt Wyo, like Wyoming. So you can find me there on Instagram. Mainly, I just do a lot of stories. I'll do some posting and stuff too, and reels and stuff like that. But I get most of my engagement comes from my stories. So I think it's just because people like to follow along with day by day stuff, see what I'm doing right then and there.
00:44:53
Speaker
So, yep, you can catch me in my stories quite a bit. I am one of those few people that actually answers all of my DMs, so if you got questions or anything you want to talk to me about with whatever, go over points, whatever, whoever it is listening, you can feel free to shoot me a DM. I'm not one of those generic logs that doesn't like.
00:45:11
Speaker
keep to myself about everything. I'm very open. I want to see success throughout everybody. So yeah, find me on Instagram. You can add me on Facebook. I just have a normal Facebook personal page. I add everybody. But my other one is I actually do a little bit on TikTok as well. Got a decent page on there too. So yeah, feel free to follow me on all those. And I do some stuff on YouTube, but do maybe one or two videos a year. I don't do it consistently like some guys.
00:45:37
Speaker
Now, so I'll just upload some stuff every now and then if I've got a pretty good video put around, but I normally just help other people that have a YouTube page because I'm not going to grow up. There's no reason to put the effort in. I've got other things to focus on like life.
00:45:53
Speaker
That's awesome. I will end with this. Your handle is fishhuntwyo. And last night you texted me like, hey, text me and you texted me like, hey, this is Dylan from fishhuntwyo, but it auto corrected through to, this is Dylan from your mom's house. And I was like, and you sent it and you're like, oh, and I was like, dude, this is awesome. And I was like, can you do it on purpose? Because if you do it on purpose, I really think it's really funny.
00:46:17
Speaker
But I assumed it wasn't on purpose, but I was like, that's awesome that Siri auto corrected it from your mom's house. And I was like, I like this guy. I can tell him I'm going to have a good time with Scott of podcasts. We've got to be able to read people and just from seeing your videos on there, I'm like, he would appreciate this, I bet. So I'm going to say this is going from your mom's house.
00:46:36
Speaker
and then send a text after, I mean fish on wild. You gotta have thick skin. Oh was it? That's good. Perfect. That's good, dude. All right, bro. They should come in on. Let's do it again. Sounds good, dude. Anytime.
00:46:53
Speaker
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