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Speaker: Olivia, Michael, how you doing?
Speaker: How you feeling?
Speaker: New episode.
Speaker: Man, my mind is going crazy right now.
Speaker: So much to think about.
Speaker: So much to talk about.
Speaker: But we have any topics.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: And it's the stigma of mental illness.
Speaker: Define that.
Speaker: What is that?
Speaker: Mental illness, I think you would define it as any disorder that affects your mood, your thinking, or your behavior, whether that's in a positive or a negative way.
Speaker: So this could be something as serious as schizophrenia or something as more common like depression or anxiety or an eating disorder.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So there's a big spectrum of what falls under mental illness.
Speaker: So that is deep.
Speaker: And a lot of times, I don't know if you can...
Speaker: cure mental illness or depression, but I have a story that I want to brief you guys on.
Speaker: A few weeks ago, a friend of mine, a very close friend of mine, had a panic attack.
Speaker: I don't know where that plays in all of this, but he called me and he said, E, have you ever had a panic attack before?
Speaker: I said, no.
Speaker: He's like, man, I just had one and my breathing is off and it's crazy.
Speaker: He said, I'm going to come by.
Speaker: I said, okay.
Speaker: So he came over and before he came over, I'm on my phone Googling like, what is a panic attack?
Speaker: What should I do?
Speaker: And, you know, this is my good friend of mine.
Speaker: Like, I want to help him.
Speaker: He came over.
Speaker: We talked for like a good hour.
Speaker: And two things I took from the conversation was that he said, I feel like I'm desensitized.
Speaker: I can't cry anymore.
Speaker: And I feel like I attract dark energy.
Speaker: So I was like, wow, okay.
Speaker: So I said, that's two things you said.
Speaker: Pay attention to that.
Speaker: Listen, I said, you want to go for a walk?
Speaker: So we stepped outside.
Speaker: We went for a walk.
Speaker: And the first thing I said as I walked out, I looked to the sky and I said, man, you know, sometimes when I wake up and I see the sky, I think about gratitude.
Speaker: Gratitude is my attitude.
Speaker: Like, I'm so grateful to just be living, to have this life of mine, to be doing the things I'm doing.
Speaker: And he's like, oh, snap.
Speaker: I'm like, what?
Speaker: He's like, that's it.
Speaker: I was like, what?
Speaker: He's like, yeah.
Speaker: Gratitude.
Speaker: He's like, something in me just shifted.
Speaker: I'm like, really?
Speaker: He's like, yeah, man.
Speaker: Gratitude.
Speaker: So I'm like, good.
Speaker: I'm like, that's good.
Speaker: So I kind of felt a little better.
Speaker: So as we walked, we walked, we turned.
Speaker: And then he started going.
Speaker: He's like, yeah, man.
Speaker: And then he's like, man, you know what?
Speaker: I love you.
Speaker: He gave me a hug and he just started crying.
Speaker: Like just pouring.
Speaker: And I'm like, man, it's cool.
Speaker: I'm like, it's all right.
Speaker: Like, let it out.
Speaker: And he's like, man, I work so hard and I just don't know.
Speaker: And I was like, man, you can't do it alone.
Speaker: And I'm like, it's okay to cry.
Speaker: It's okay to have these things happen in your life.
Speaker: And I went through, I don't know if I had a panic, but I had parts of my life where it wasn't the best.
Speaker: And I cried and, you know, the best way I knew how I vented about it.
Speaker: But
Speaker: Basically, what I learned was in that moment, and I want to talk about this with our next guest, Matthew Santoro, YouTube star, 6 million subscribers.
Speaker: He's a comedian.
Speaker: He's an author about mental illness with himself because he spoke briefly.
Speaker: He has a YouTube video out about it and about having it with males.
Speaker: As men, we hold a lot of emotions in.
Speaker: And to see my friend go through that and for him to cry, that was really a miracle because I saw him let out what was holding him in.
Speaker: I think your story is a testament to show how difficult it is to talk about these things and how important it is.
Speaker: So often, I'm someone who struggles with anxiety.
Speaker: And so often I keep it in so close to my person that it makes it worse because you're afraid to talk about it.
Speaker: But when you talk about it, you release it.
Speaker: Yeah, and it's, man, and like, and what I learned in that moment, my purpose was for him was just to be there, not to judge him, not to critique him, just to be there, be the energy, be that present and just be E. And it kind of like, it kind of loosened the mood and he was like, okay.
Speaker: And I'm like, we went, we had food, we ate.
Speaker: He's like, man, I love you, man.
Speaker: And I was like, man.
Speaker: And that's my question to you, Eric.
Speaker: It seems like...
Speaker: through a lot of hard times with some of your close friends or friends, you're always there during the roughest times.
Speaker: So him being vulnerable enough to express that to you, to even call you, how does that make you feel?
Speaker: Man, honestly, it's crazy because I wanna help people so much and I feel like I'm always compelled to people who are going through the most and the worst.
Speaker: I done had friends got shot in the head, people who leave their families, people who have been in abusive relationships, mental disorders or, I mean, I just had so much in my life and I think because my life just happened, I never had time to process it.
Speaker: I'm just there, I'm just present.
Speaker: I'm giving the best I have in that moment based on what I know.
Speaker: And I'm just a friend.
Speaker: And I just feel like it's part of my purpose.
Speaker: In what way, I don't know.
Speaker: But I just feel like I'm always around stuff that's heavy, that's deep, that's intense.
Speaker: And I'm there.
Speaker: It's me.
Speaker: I'm like, okay.
Speaker: And my best thing to do is to figure it out.
Speaker: So, I mean, that was a great question.
Speaker: I never thought of it like that.
Speaker: Shows a lot about who you are, though.
Speaker: And I just love people, man.
Speaker: I want to see people to win.
Speaker: And it's okay to cry.
Speaker: It's okay not to have it figured out.
Speaker: It's okay to have these tough moments.
Speaker: Like, we're all human.
Speaker: Like, it's all right.
Speaker: And so with that being said, you know, the topic of the day is the stigmas of mental illness.
Speaker: I have YouTube sensation comedian, Arthur Matthew Santoro.
Speaker: He's amazing.
Speaker: He's such a humble guy.
Speaker: When I met him, I actually met this guy a few weeks ago.
Speaker: And he was just, I said, man, would you love to come on the podcast?
Speaker: He said, man, if it's all about good vibes, I'm willing to do it.
Speaker: He's a cancer.
Speaker: We're going to talk about his astrology.
Speaker: He's birthday July 16th.
Speaker: He's just a great person.
Speaker: Matthew Santoro, guys, is up next.
Speaker: Stay tuned.
Speaker: Bigger Talks, mental illness.
Speaker: We're going to get into it.
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Speaker: Welcome back to Bigger Talks with Eric Bigger.
Speaker: Bigger Talks, welcome back.
Speaker: Welcome back.
Speaker: I got the man, the YouTube sensation, the star, the comedian, the author, Matthew Santoro.
Speaker: What's up, brother?
Speaker: How you doing?
Speaker: How you feeling?
Speaker: Thank you for having me.
Speaker: I'm excited.
Speaker: Man, welcome to Bigger Talks, man.
Speaker: Thanks, man.
Speaker: We met, like, not too long ago.
Speaker: You were so open, so humble.
Speaker: You have a familiar face.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: I do know that you're popular and you're somebody, but you're just very, very humble.
Speaker: And so, you know, I did a little bit of research.
Speaker: Didn't have that much time because we just met, right?
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So your birthday is July 16th.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: So what I know about people who birthdays in July, they're cancers.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: Cancers are very sensitive.
Speaker: They're emotional, and they're all about family and a water sign.
Speaker: So they're really helpful and given.
Speaker: And man, I just, you're so humble for the 6 million YouTube subscribers to having, you know, your own book and all your fans.
Speaker: And man, you're here.
Speaker: And I just want to say thank you.
Speaker: Oh, thanks, man.
Speaker: I should be thanking you.
Speaker: I'm grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker: I really appreciate it.
Speaker: And I will say I am into numerology.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So I'm going to just do your life path number real quick.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Do I need to put my hand out?
Speaker: You're going to read my palm?
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Maybe not, but I'm going to just do the numbers, and I'll give you your life path number, and you let me know if it's true or not.
Speaker: So July 16th.
Speaker: So when you do numerology, no number can go above a 9.
Speaker: So we're going to add up your year first.
Speaker: So 1 plus 9 is 10.
Speaker: 10 plus 8 is 18.
Speaker: 18 plus 5 is 23.
Speaker: So 2 plus 3 is 5.
Speaker: Then we got 16.
Speaker: 1 plus 6 is 7.
Speaker: So your day, 16th.
Speaker: 1 plus 6 is 7.
Speaker: Plus your year equals 23, which is 5.
Speaker: So 7 and 5 is 12.
Speaker: 12 plus 7, because July is 7, is what?
Speaker: 19, so 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.
Speaker: So 1 plus 9 is what? 10.
Speaker: Oh, Life Path 1.
Speaker: So Life Path 1s are considered born leaders.
Speaker: So Walt Disney, Steve Jobs, LeBron James, they're very ambitious.
Speaker: They're going to get what they want, and they're coming, no matter what.
Speaker: Their ego doesn't get bruised too easily.
Speaker: They can go through any and everything in life.
Speaker: They're coming.
Speaker: So you're like the sun.
Speaker: You're shining like...
Speaker: People got to see you.
Speaker: Thanks, man.
Speaker: It's just part of your nature.
Speaker: That's a little bit of numerology and astrology.
Speaker: Very cool.
Speaker: You're here, and we're going to get right into our rapid fire segment.
Speaker: Oh, shoot.
Speaker: We're just jumping right in.
Speaker: We're breaking ice.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: Ice breaker.
Speaker: Let's do it.
Speaker: We've always got these amazing questions.
Speaker: You ready?
Speaker: Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker: Canada or the USA?
Speaker: Oh, shoot.
Speaker: You're going to play me like that?
Speaker: Shoot.
Speaker: Canada.
Speaker: Fame or fortune?
Speaker: Oh, I mean fortune.
Speaker: Beer or wine?
Speaker: Wine.
Speaker: YouTube or Vine?
Speaker: YouTube.
Speaker: Lover or fighter?
Speaker: Lover.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Biggest life fear?
Speaker: Regret.
Speaker: Ooh.
Speaker: Ooh.
Speaker: You've been there before.
Speaker: No, but I don't want to get there.
Speaker: See, to me – okay, see, now we're going to – There we go.
Speaker: There we go.
Speaker: So to me, I think – for some reason, I've been thinking a lot about getting old.
Speaker: I'm only 32.
Speaker: Like I'm mad young to me.
Speaker: But –
Speaker: I can't shake the idea that one day, like tomorrow, I'm going to wake up and I'm going to be 70, right?
Speaker: Like right now I'm 32.
Speaker: But when you hit 70, like when that happens, you go, where did the last blank number of years go?
Speaker: Where did the last 50 years go, right?
Speaker: And my biggest fear is waking up that day.
Speaker: You know, it's an arbitrary number.
Speaker: Let's say 80, whatever.
Speaker: And saying to myself, like...
Speaker: I didn't accomplish everything that I could have.
Speaker: I didn't realize my full potential.
Speaker: That's my biggest fear.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So then I have a question.
Speaker: What is your full potential?
Speaker: It's limitless.
Speaker: That goes for everybody.
Speaker: That's everybody.
Speaker: You're only limited by your own mind.
Speaker: That's just a fact.
Speaker: People think they're limited by the expectations of their family or the expectations of their friends or what their boss thinks of them or whatever, but you're not.
Speaker: Those are all just artificial constructs.
Speaker: You can actually – see, this is going to sound like –
Speaker: very like cheesy in a way, but you really can do anything you want to do.
Speaker: And like you hear that your whole life, like everybody always says, like you can do anything.
Speaker: But, you know, as you grow up, you start to understand in society that there are constructs that will come around you and sort of box you in.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Like society doesn't want you to be outside of a box.
Speaker: They want to put you in a box because because they can understand you better that way.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: But once you realize that everything you've ever wanted is outside of that box, that box really represents your comfort zone in many ways.
Speaker: And as soon as you leave that box, it's just anything is yours for the taking.
Speaker: The problem is getting outside of that box is scary.
Speaker: And people don't want to leave their comfort zone because they make exactly what they want to make every year.
Speaker: Maybe they make $30,000 a year.
Speaker: Well, they can pay the bills with that.
Speaker: But they really want to have their own podcast, right?
Speaker: But, well, I have this.
Speaker: I have that.
Speaker: There's excuses all the time, right?
Speaker: But the biggest thing is that it's not the excuses.
Speaker: It's that they're afraid to start.
Speaker: And the excuses are just the quickest way to justify it, right?
Speaker: disguise fear as practicality, right?
Speaker: In the words of the great Jim Carrey, right?
Speaker: I don't know if you guys have seen that commencement speech that he, I think it was a graduation speech.
Speaker: And he said those words and I was like, ooh, that's like, that's gospel right there.
Speaker: I remember felt like something I love and then something I don't.
Speaker: Bro, I said – okay, so back in the day I did a video.
Speaker: I think it's still on my channel, and it's called – oh, my God.
Speaker: I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker: Something along the lines of reasons to not go to university or something like that, which I have a master's from university.
Speaker: So, like, I wanted people – I wanted it to come from me.
Speaker: But essentially what I was saying is those words.
Speaker: He just put it much more eloquently, which is that you can fail at what you don't want, so you might as well take a chance on what you love.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And, but he said, so that hit me, but also fears practicality.
Speaker: And I think if you really audit your own life, I think you're going to find that a lot of the decisions you make are really are either based in fear or love.
Speaker: Same thing you said, right?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it's true.
Speaker: And that, that is, it really is that black and white, right?
Speaker: Like it's when it comes to choices, there is no gray area.
Speaker: Either you do something cause you're in a state of love and in your state of state of gratitude and you're a state of joy and
Speaker: In bliss or fear, sadness, loneliness.
Speaker: Like it's just that simple.
Speaker: You know, the decisions that I make in my life, I always try to make them out of love and gratitude.
Speaker: And anytime that I'm not feeling that way, because there are going to be times all the time that we're all just like, man, this is a crap ass day.
Speaker: Can I say that?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I don't want to curse.
Speaker: Sorry.
Speaker: But like this is a crap day.
Speaker: Like, you know, like anytime that happens, I have enough self-awareness now to know that I can't make any decisions in that state.
Speaker: I just let that state be.
Speaker: I don't fight it because what you resist persists.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: So I don't fight it.
Speaker: I just say, OK, I am in the state.
Speaker: Hopefully I can get out of it, but I'm not going to fight it.
Speaker: It just is.
Speaker: And it just – I'm just going to let it be.
Speaker: And I don't make any decisions.
Speaker: I don't send out any tweets.
Speaker: I don't make any business decisions, nothing.
Speaker: It's just like I just sit in that state and sometimes I meditate and just kind of get out of it.
Speaker: So with all that being said, that's great information by the way.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Thanks, man.
Speaker: People, are you listening?
Speaker: This guy is very aware.
Speaker: I'm dropping facts on you.
Speaker: Yeah, gems, gems.
Speaker: So –
Speaker: Now, you have 6 million YouTube subscribers.
Speaker: You got almost 400,000 Instagram followers.
Speaker: Your influence is heavy.
Speaker: With that being said, I did go on your YouTube and I saw a video that you put up.
Speaker: I don't know how long ago it was.
Speaker: You got over about 1 million views.
Speaker: It was talking about your process of having depression.
Speaker: That was like eight months ago.
Speaker: Eight months ago.
Speaker: So was that decision made out of fear or out of love?
Speaker: And with all your followers and your fans...
Speaker: Did that play a role in you releasing that content?
Speaker: I mean, I said it, I think, in details that your friends influence you and help you.
Speaker: What was that process like?
Speaker: Man, I mean, so the last three years before that were very tough for me.
Speaker: And we don't have to get into details, but just like everybody else has things that happen.
Speaker: Sometimes things happen in life that you just, it sends you down a darker path than you were meant to be.
Speaker: And in my situation, I had a few things happen over the years.
Speaker: It's just kind of like boom.
Speaker: Like life will – excuse me.
Speaker: Life will – I'm getting all excited.
Speaker: I had that energy drink before I got here.
Speaker: There we go.
Speaker: Life will knock you down and hold you down if you let it, right?
Speaker: I believe Sylvester Stallone said that.
Speaker: I'm just full of all kinds of quotes.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: The top ten quotes.
Speaker: Yeah, for real.
Speaker: You probably got that on YouTube.
Speaker: But it will knock you down and keep you there if you let it.
Speaker: And for me, I let it.
Speaker: I let it for about three years and I just had a really tough time.
Speaker: I just couldn't find my way out of like a dark place.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: And I think a lot of people that are listening right now might identify with that.
Speaker: They might say, yeah, you know what?
Speaker: I'm in that place right now, but I don't know what to do.
Speaker: So for me, art was my way of taking back control.
Speaker: So for me, I never wanted to say I'm depressed because my whole life I've always been a really happy guy.
Speaker: I've just been really goofy, like happy, like – the state you see me in right now is my real state.
Speaker: But for three years, I just – it was like a downward spiral.
Speaker: And the release of that short film, which is called There's Something I Never Told You,
Speaker: was my way of putting a name to it, shining a light straight on it and saying, you no longer control me because I'm giving a name to you.
Speaker: And as soon as you name something and take responsibility for it, now you can change it.
Speaker: But if you don't, then how do you, it's like you're in a dark room.
Speaker: How do you, how do you grasp a formless thing?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: You have to turn the light on and say, Oh, there you are.
Speaker: You got to point it out and you got to be aware of it and you got to know and you got to accept that this is what's going on.
Speaker: You got to own it.
Speaker: I was on the show, The Bachelorette.
Speaker: I was afraid of love.
Speaker: You were on The Bachelorette?
Speaker: Yeah, I was on The Bachelorette.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Don't tell nobody.
Speaker: I'm not surprised.
Speaker: Good looking, dude.
Speaker: Don't tell nobody.
Speaker: But anyway, I was afraid of love.
Speaker: And I was afraid to accept that I was afraid of love because, oh, no, I'm cool.
Speaker: I'm a macho strong.
Speaker: But that fear of love was taking over me.
Speaker: And so I surrendered to the moment like, it's all right.
Speaker: It's OK.
Speaker: And then love came into my life and it changed me.
Speaker: So.
Speaker: To go back to the depression part, what, like I don't have that much information on depression and things of that nature.
Speaker: What caused that?
Speaker: Is that, is it like a chemical imbalance?
Speaker: Is it something physical?
Speaker: Is it an event?
Speaker: So here's the thing.
Speaker: So the things that you do over and over and over, you're training your brain to produce those chemicals, right?
Speaker: So for me, my whole life, I had been a really happy guy.
Speaker: And then once, say one bad thing happened,
Speaker: Well, okay, that's like a knock to my brain.
Speaker: It's like, oh, like I feel those negative chemicals, that negative feeling.
Speaker: And then now boom, boom, boom, I can get back.
Speaker: However, another thing happens.
Speaker: And then another thing happens.
Speaker: And then it was just – I was just training my – basically training my brain to continuously every day wake up with anxiety.
Speaker: Every day –
Speaker: It's a routine.
Speaker: Everything in life is a routine, right?
Speaker: My routine now is I wake up and I listen to motivational videos every morning because the first hour of the day determines the rest of your day, right?
Speaker: This is a scientific fact.
Speaker: Your brain waves are at its strongest in the morning.
Speaker: So what you feed your brain in the morning – You listening, people?
Speaker: Listen to this.
Speaker: For real.
Speaker: If you're listening to this in the morning, perfect.
Speaker: There we go.
Speaker: What you feed your brain.
Speaker: You know, people talk about breakfast.
Speaker: Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Speaker: It's for your body.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: For your brain, same thing goes.
Speaker: What do you do normally in the morning?
Speaker: Well, you pick up your phone, right?
Speaker: Oh, what's the latest thing Trump said?
Speaker: Oh, what's the latest thing?
Speaker: I'm just saying in general.
Speaker: What's the latest thing on CNN?
Speaker: How many people died in a terrible car crash?
Speaker: You never see, you never see, hey, good morning.
Speaker: A breed of puppies was just born this morning.
Speaker: You don't see it because that doesn't sell in the media, right?
Speaker: I think you know what we should do, Matt?
Speaker: We should start positive news.
Speaker: We should have a- Bro, we just started.
Speaker: We're doing it right now.
Speaker: Positive news every day.
Speaker: So people come to our channel and log on, positive news with E and Matt.
Speaker: Yeah, and every day it starts with just a puppy.
Speaker: Like the first five minutes of the broadcast- What type of puppy though?
Speaker: Bro, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker: It's just puppies running around for the first five minutes.
Speaker: You don't get the news until you just absorb the puppies.
Speaker: But for real, like I wake up and I just fill my brain with gratitude and love and like listen to Tony Robbins and Eric Thomas and Les Brown and oh my god.
Speaker: You don't know how to say it, bro.
Speaker: Are we soul brothers or what?
Speaker: I mean, I'm a Pisces.
Speaker: You're a cancer.
Speaker: We're water signs.
Speaker: I'm down.
Speaker: We're feeling the emotions.
Speaker: Intuitive.
Speaker: Listen, man.
Speaker: I'm saying though, the universe, I really believe in allowing, you have to allow the universe to bring you the blessings that they have for you.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: But that's why we met, right?
Speaker: I'll tell you something.
Speaker: The day that I, did I meet you at Charlie's thing?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That was the first time we met.
Speaker: Clover Park in San Ramon.
Speaker: That was the first time we met.
Speaker: Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker: I wasn't sure if we met before that.
Speaker: I feel like I've known you for so long.
Speaker: I know, the energy.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: But the reason we met was because that day in particular, I think that day I was having a bit of an off day.
Speaker: I did too.
Speaker: Okay, hold up.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay, let's follow this.
Speaker: Let's go.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So that day I was having a bit of an off day.
Speaker: Now, I know.
Speaker: through experience every single time in my life that I've had a bit of an off day or I'm not really feeling like my best self.
Speaker: If I force myself to go do something that has been brought my way, whether it's seeing off Charlie, whether it's a friend's birthday, whether it's going to a club, whatever, every single time I've done that, something good has come from it.
Speaker: And not just good, but like big.
Speaker: Big, what's it?
Speaker: Bigger talks.
Speaker: Bigger talks.
Speaker: Talks is one.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: So, you know, something big, like no pun intended, but kind of.
Speaker: So that day, this is what happened.
Speaker: And now, like, we met, you know, Soul Brothers, apparently.
Speaker: Yeah, and we're here.
Speaker: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker: And it's funny, that morning, Charlie and the whole Vero crew and George and everybody, they had a 10K.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: I was late.
Speaker: I didn't get that much rest the night before.
Speaker: I was late.
Speaker: I was pissed.
Speaker: I was like, it's only six miles.
Speaker: Like, come on.
Speaker: Like, people are walking.
Speaker: I can be finished in an hour or so.
Speaker: Sorry, sir.
Speaker: No more, you know, numbers to put on your chest.
Speaker: You can't go.
Speaker: I was mad.
Speaker: But instead of being in my ego and forcing myself to go run six miles somewhere else, because my intentions were telling me I'm going to go do six miles.
Speaker: You know what I did?
Speaker: I went home.
Speaker: And I went to sleep.
Speaker: But I knew Charlie and him had the party, the gathering at Clover Park from 12 to 2.
Speaker: So I said, you know what?
Speaker: I'll just go there.
Speaker: And when I went there, you know, I met everyone.
Speaker: You know, we talked, we spoke.
Speaker: And I believe, just like you, everything happens for a reason.
Speaker: So when I went there...
Speaker: And I got your information, I said, that was the purpose, podcast, boom, and now we're here.
Speaker: But if I would've went against the grain and was like, oh, I'm mad, I'm tired, I wouldn't even, we wouldn't even have met.
Speaker: That's it.
Speaker: So people, let the universe work in your favor.
Speaker: Don't try to force the MLO.
Speaker: Or you know how sometimes you might be having to, you have to go to a meeting and you're in an Uber, you're late,
Speaker: And you're telling an Uber, go this way, go that way.
Speaker: No, just go the way.
Speaker: Just let it be.
Speaker: Let it be.
Speaker: And then I believe real things happen naturally.
Speaker: But just not to get off a topic, what is, from your mind and perspective, what is the misconception about mental illness that you can think of or know of?
Speaker: The biggest misconception.
Speaker: I got to think about that one.
Speaker: The biggest misconception.
Speaker: I mean, there's obviously to some degree still a bit of a stigma.
Speaker: And for me, I mean, I think that's part of what took so long for me to like kind of get out of that state was that for years I had been talking about the importance of mental health.
Speaker: And, you know, in Canada, we have Bell Let's Talk Day, which actually goes international.
Speaker: So every time you use the hashtag Bell Let's Talk,
Speaker: On a particular day, whatever day that is, I think it's at like in September of every year or something, they donate five cents for every hashtag.
Speaker: They raise millions of dollars and it's just huge awareness.
Speaker: It's fantastic.
Speaker: And I had been talking about that for years, but the truth is I had never taken care of my own mental health.
Speaker: You know, like I, I just, I was a bit of a hypocrite in that regard.
Speaker: And it was only when I did start taking my own mental health seriously that I realized that.
Speaker: So now when I talk about it, it's like I'm believing and I'm acting out what I'm saying.
Speaker: So I guess like I don't – to be honest, I don't really know.
Speaker: I mean – You know, I think the misconception – and I could be wrong – is that –
Speaker: when we think because of who we are from an egotistical standpoint, like, oh, I'm not stressed out, I'm not depressed.
Speaker: I can be this most positive, happy, I can do my affirmations, I can watch motivation videos, but yet I can still somewhat be depressed, but I'm not aware of it because no, I'm not.
Speaker: And what I realized is that as men, I don't wanna say we're afraid, we don't know how to respond or open up about what we're really feeling.
Speaker: I'm from Baltimore City, so I grew up, it was tough, there was a lot of challenges.
Speaker: And I probably really didn't cry until like 25.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: So I was holding a lot of pain and rage and anger and trauma just because in the environment, if you release that, then that's dangerous.
Speaker: So my positivity actually was my coping mechanism.
Speaker: It protected me.
Speaker: And what I realized is when we are diagnosed with certain things, whether it's depression, anxiety, or
Speaker: It's okay, and I think as men, when we fight, like, I think if I'm not mistaken, most men don't wanna go get checkups, so they don't wanna go to the hospital, because we don't wanna hear the truth or the results or whatever.
Speaker: It's okay if you're diagnosed or something happens, because I believe in getting to the root of everything.
Speaker: I had a lot of trauma from my life.
Speaker: But I didn't know until last year, my agent said, why are you like dissing your pictures?
Speaker: Like I would like squeeze my shoulders.
Speaker: And I said, because in my life, everything was so tense and I had to be on so much.
Speaker: So I'm looking at my photos and like, that's trauma.
Speaker: I'm holding on to...
Speaker: Whatever I'm trying to hold on to because I don't know how to be relaxed because it's either life or death.
Speaker: See, it's funny you say that because I started to find that I carry my stress and tension in my shoulders.
Speaker: I don't think we're alone in that.
Speaker: I think a lot of – like if you look at people, like they just naturally do this and you don't – like for everybody listening right now, check your shoulders right now.
Speaker: Check your shoulders.
Speaker: What are you doing?
Speaker: Oh, my god.
Speaker: I'm so tense.
Speaker: For real.
Speaker: What are you doing right now?
Speaker: And I bet you're going to go, oh.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Because you might be in traffic right now.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Oh, I got to get to work.
Speaker: No, just let it go.
Speaker: Let it go.
Speaker: And the other thing that I would do is clench my jaw.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Especially if I was sleeping, I'd find it – like I'd wake up and I'd feel like my jaw was sore.
Speaker: Or even just during the day, I'd kind of like –
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Just, you know, and meditation actually helped a lot with that.
Speaker: Like just being very aware of your body, including your jaw, your forehead, people wrinkle their forehead.
Speaker: There's all these little signs that once you become aware of them, forehead, jaw, shoulders, you'll even just going like this, like release your hands.
Speaker: You might be listening to this and your, your fist might be clenched.
Speaker: Like just that's a sign though.
Speaker: It's a sign to like, just breathe.
Speaker: Just breathe.
Speaker: That was my next question is like, how do you know when you're in it?
Speaker: And how do you know when you're out of it?
Speaker: It takes practice.
Speaker: So like I just said, those are the four things, like clenched fist, jaw, shoulders, like wrinkled forehead, like people furrowed their brow.
Speaker: These are all just – it's body awareness and just knowing the signs.
Speaker: For me, it was just meditation that taught me that.
Speaker: I'm pretty new to meditation.
Speaker: It's only been like two months.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: I just started pretty much.
Speaker: What did you do prior to meditation to deal with all the pressure and other things you had prior?
Speaker: How did you deal with it?
Speaker: Just added more stress, man.
Speaker: More and more stress.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: So to anyone listening or to people out there that's tuned into this podcast, what could be your solution for anyone who has depression, who might have a chemical imbalance with mental illness or anything?
Speaker: What would you advise they could do that they can control like right now?
Speaker: What you can control?
Speaker: Outside of medication.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: See, that's a tough question because like everybody is different, right?
Speaker: Like some people have like a genuine chemical imbalance that maybe not necessarily anything happened to them but they're just always down and no motivation.
Speaker: Like that's –
Speaker: I can't say because my path is going to be very different than that.
Speaker: Like I had specific things that I can point to that, you know, I can, I can say, okay, like I can go in therapy and talk about that.
Speaker: Or, you know, like I, you just have to, I would say meditation honestly is like, just that would be the only thing like away from drugs and any sort of substance that can change your state.
Speaker: And it's, you know, I always thought meditation was kind of this like,
Speaker: fairy magic thing.
Speaker: It's like, oh, why do people like, oh, I'm going to go like this and put my hands together and hum?
Speaker: That's dumb.
Speaker: But that's not how it is at all.
Speaker: And the other thing actually that I was – I never wanted to meditate because I was afraid of losing control.
Speaker: And I want to say that again for everybody because –
Speaker: Control is a disease.
Speaker: Control.
Speaker: Everybody wants to always be in control nowadays, right?
Speaker: And my biggest fear was losing control.
Speaker: Like am I going to lose my mind?
Speaker: Like really?
Speaker: Am I going to like – is that what these people do?
Speaker: They just become like nothingness in their mind and they like lose themselves?
Speaker: That's not what meditation is.
Speaker: In fact, it's actually the opposite.
Speaker: It actually puts you more present.
Speaker: and gets you more in tune with your body and you're actually more focused.
Speaker: So anyone who is afraid of that, that's not what meditation is.
Speaker: And this is coming from a guy that just started.
Speaker: I can tell you that that's not what it is.
Speaker: And it's just a casual thing.
Speaker: And like, I don't go around telling people, well, right now I am, but I don't go around telling people like, yo, I meditate, you know, like a blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: I don't do that.
Speaker: I just do it for myself.
Speaker: I pretty much keep quiet about it.
Speaker: And it's just for my own mental health.
Speaker: And like, anytime I'm feeling overwhelmed, I'll bust out.
Speaker: Do you know the Calm app?
Speaker: Yeah, so Apple named it.
Speaker: That's actually how I got into it.
Speaker: That and my friend, they named it the app of the year in 2017.
Speaker: And it's like $60 a year.
Speaker: There's different ones.
Speaker: There's that.
Speaker: There's Headspace.
Speaker: There's like all these different ones.
Speaker: Oh, YouTube.
Speaker: YouTube, yeah.
Speaker: No, exactly.
Speaker: Google Meditation for depression, stress.
Speaker: 100%.
Speaker: But this app in particular, I haven't tried the other ones, but I know this one is good.
Speaker: I put on my headphones.
Speaker: Like first thing in the morning I meditate or like if I'm really in the creative zone, I'll just get right to shooting videos.
Speaker: And then I'll meditate later.
Speaker: There's nice falling asleep ones and stuff like that.
Speaker: So that's just what I personally use.
Speaker: But there's Headspace.
Speaker: There's all these different ones.
Speaker: But meditation period, like it's just a good starting point.
Speaker: Because it calms the mind.
Speaker: And what I realize is that when you let go of control, you actually get more control.
Speaker: Because when you let go, the truth comes out, which you really can deal with.
Speaker: I used to be a control freak.
Speaker: I wouldn't have a team prior to this because I knew what I'm doing.
Speaker: I'm going to do it my way.
Speaker: And then I'm like, Olivia, I need you.
Speaker: Mike, Matt, can you come in?
Speaker: Because less is more and you need a team.
Speaker: So let go of control.
Speaker: And then you'll realize that the things you can control today.
Speaker: My phone turned off.
Speaker: You text me.
Speaker: I didn't get your text.
Speaker: I say, you know what, brother?
Speaker: I apologize.
Speaker: But I'm not in control.
Speaker: Much as I wanted to.
Speaker: And I also used to think that life was in the mind and in the breath.
Speaker: And I can't say a lot of life is in the mind because some people, their mind play tricks on them, right?
Speaker: But if you breathe different, it can kind of control a lot of things.
Speaker: And that's why I think meditation helps.
Speaker: But I also think...
Speaker: with people who are diagnosed, if they all come together because they can relate, can probably help the situation become better.
Speaker: Because when you relate to someone, you understand them more and it's a lot easier to open up and talk about it.
Speaker: Opposed to someone who's, you know,
Speaker: doesn't have a mental breakdown or who's very confident, is loving, you're like, I don't have that.
Speaker: I'm nervous.
Speaker: But everybody can be a part of the conversation.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Like, you don't have to have something.
Speaker: You can still... And here's the thing.
Speaker: You can still put things on social media, hashtags and stuff.
Speaker: But what's interesting about mental health these days is...
Speaker: I guarantee you everybody listening right now knows at least one person that deals with something.
Speaker: It might not be you or your parents, but like it might be like a removed cousin or like a friend of a friend.
Speaker: You know somebody that's going through something to do with mental health.
Speaker: And that's a really big umbrella, but you know somebody and that's why it's so important because our war of our generation is not a physical war.
Speaker: It's a spiritual war.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Intangible.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Yeah, you felt that.
Speaker: I saw that.
Speaker: I sat back.
Speaker: It's true though.
Speaker: It's like our grandfathers and grandmothers, they fought a physical war.
Speaker: But in many ways, they were happier than us.
Speaker: How can that be?
Speaker: They grew up in devastation and poverty in many ways.
Speaker: And like my grandmother, like the ration during the war and they used like green glass.
Speaker: Like I don't know what that was all about, but I remember seeing green glass and she was saying that's all we had.
Speaker: It was cheaper.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So for our generation, we have more wealth in physical toys like iPhones and Androids and we're connected all the time and we're theoretically more connected than we ever have been.
Speaker: But we have more of a rise in mental health issues and people committing suicide and just general sadness than ever before in history.
Speaker: How can that be?
Speaker: So it's a spiritual war that we're fighting.
Speaker: And this is just a part of our evolution.
Speaker: And that's what we have to deal with at this point.
Speaker: And it's so important for people to know that it's not about the material riches so much.
Speaker: I like to call it emotional riches.
Speaker: And that's what we're lacking.
Speaker: That's what the world needs.
Speaker: What we're having right here together on this podcast all together is human connection.
Speaker: This is love.
Speaker: This is not out of fear.
Speaker: This is something that's real.
Speaker: And we're having a connection.
Speaker: And that's what everybody wants in the world, I believe, is that intimate connection to be understood, to be heard, to be loved, to even if you have a fear to say is, OK, I have those fears, too, because we need each other.
Speaker: No one's better than anyone.
Speaker: We're all the same.
Speaker: We're all connected.
Speaker: And I think that's what people need to understand.
Speaker: But I want to know, you know, because you have a big platform.
Speaker: We have six million YouTube subscribers, almost 400,000 Instagram followers.
Speaker: What you think we could do to spread more awareness about mental illness, depression, anxiety, and all those things?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: not to have people come forward and speak about it because i feel like there's a lot of people out there who don't talk about it or who have it who don't know about it you want to know what the best thing everyone can do about it keep it casual just literally dinner room talk how you feeling today well i felt kind of depressed you know what me too
Speaker: It doesn't have, it doesn't simple, like keep it in, make it.
Speaker: So it's not a big deal.
Speaker: That's the problem is like, people are like hashtag like mental, mental health awareness.
Speaker: Like you don't have to, yeah, you don't have to make it this big thing where it's like, Oh, can I talk about it at the dinner table?
Speaker: Is that going to bring down the mood?
Speaker: Like wrong attitude.
Speaker: Like I can't remember what happened, but like the other day, and this has been happening more and more.
Speaker: Someone said like, how are you?
Speaker: And I was like, you know what?
Speaker: I had a really crappy mental health day today.
Speaker: And I was just like straight out, just like that.
Speaker: And I realized I said it.
Speaker: And this was actually the first time I had said it since I released my short film.
Speaker: And before that, it wasn't a part of my – I don't know what the word, like lexicon, like my regular conversation.
Speaker: And the person said something like heavy that just hit me.
Speaker: But they said it so casually, something like – something, oh, yeah, me too.
Speaker: Like I ran out of my meds or something.
Speaker: I was like, what?
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: Like this is where we're at.
Speaker: This is where we're at.
Speaker: Like you totally just like talked about something that used to be mad heavy.
Speaker: Like who would say that?
Speaker: But now everyone's saying it because it's just like, oh, yeah, like I had a bad thought the other day.
Speaker: Like, oh, man, this morning I felt mad depressed.
Speaker: I couldn't get out of bed.
Speaker: But I'm here now.
Speaker: We're good.
Speaker: Like whatever.
Speaker: Like it's just so keep it casual.
Speaker: Casual.
Speaker: Casual.
Speaker: It's simple.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And if somebody reacts weirdly, if they go – like if you say like I felt like I had a really bad mental health day today and someone looks at you weird.
Speaker: Don't accept that energy.
Speaker: To me, energy is a gift.
Speaker: And just like any other gift, if I give you a gift, what can you do with that?
Speaker: You can either take it or –
Speaker: Not.
Speaker: So literally today, somebody tweeted me something and they said something nasty.
Speaker: And I literally, I tweeted them back and I said, hey, I'm not sure what's going on in your life, but it sounds like maybe there's something wrong.
Speaker: But I don't accept your gift of negative energy, but I do wish you'd have a fantastic day and a good weekend.
Speaker: Like it is literally that simple.
Speaker: Like people think that – that's why people are so controlled by their environments because people think things happen to them, right?
Speaker: Nothing happens to you unless you let it happen to you, right?
Speaker: So like I can say F you.
Speaker: Well, okay.
Speaker: That doesn't have to upset you.
Speaker: You choose to let it accept.
Speaker: Because the F you is on you, not me if I don't accept it.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And that's exactly the thing is like just like think of energy and what people say to you.
Speaker: Literally as a gift.
Speaker: If you think about it this way, it's going to change your life.
Speaker: If somebody cuts you off in traffic or flips you the bird or someone at work says something negative about you, there's a million things that could happen during the day.
Speaker: That is a gift that the universe – think of the universe as a man or a woman that stands in front of you and hands you a box, right?
Speaker: You don't have to take that box.
Speaker: You don't have to take that box.
Speaker: It is literally fine to say, no, thank you.
Speaker: I don't accept your gift of negative energy.
Speaker: That's not crazy talk.
Speaker: That's just, you can do that.
Speaker: Like people don't realize that you have a choice in that matter.
Speaker: A choice and you have power to choose different.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: And like certain people in my life, like the other day – I don't want to get specific.
Speaker: But like I recently communicated to somebody in their life, hey, I want more for you and here's how I think we should do it.
Speaker: And exercise is important.
Speaker: I think we can pull each other up and do more.
Speaker: And at first that individual is like kind of resistant to it, right?
Speaker: And like an argument ensued.
Speaker: But I was like, you're going to understand that this is coming from a place of love.
Speaker: And, you know, whatever it is, whether it's your parents, your partner, whatever, your brother, sister, if you want more for them and you come from a place of love, whatever you communicate, they may not immediately respond positively.
Speaker: Because when you ask more of somebody, you're taking me out of my comfort zone.
Speaker: Alert, alert.
Speaker: No, I don't like this.
Speaker: F you.
Speaker: I don't want to talk about it because that's natural.
Speaker: People don't like change, right?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But if you come from a place of love.
Speaker: And they marinate on it a little bit and they go to bed.
Speaker: Or even an hour later, they might come back to you and say, you know what?
Speaker: I get where you're coming from and I think you're right.
Speaker: And that's it.
Speaker: And so when that happens, don't take that negative energy.
Speaker: Just they threw it at you.
Speaker: I hear what you're saying.
Speaker: But just let it breathe.
Speaker: You're going to understand.
Speaker: No, no, no, no.
Speaker: I hear what you're saying.
Speaker: Just let it breathe.
Speaker: I love you.
Speaker: Yeah, but you said no.
Speaker: No, just let it breathe.
Speaker: I love you.
Speaker: This is good for us.
Speaker: And literally, just keep coming at it.
Speaker: It's like dosing water on a fire, right?
Speaker: And eventually they're going to go, and they're going to say, no, I still come at you with love.
Speaker: Because love heals everything.
Speaker: Love wins.
Speaker: Like you said, it's the state they're in.
Speaker: You go to a restaurant, and most times if a waiter or a waitress is at your table,
Speaker: She's giving.
Speaker: She wants to know what do you want.
Speaker: But how about, hey, how you doing today?
Speaker: How you feeling?
Speaker: I like water with lemon, with chicken and a salad, with a smile.
Speaker: And like a smile.
Speaker: I was like, now she has to think because she's not used to that or he's not used to that.
Speaker: You just broke her pattern.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: People have patterns, right?
Speaker: Tony Robbins talks about this all the time.
Speaker: People have patterns.
Speaker: When you say something like that, you just – like she's on autopilot or he.
Speaker: Autopilot.
Speaker: People – that's how her brains work.
Speaker: Your brain wants to do the least amount of work possible.
Speaker: So –
Speaker: It will go on autopilot.
Speaker: Like do you have coffee in the morning?
Speaker: I don't.
Speaker: I don't drink coffee.
Speaker: Do you have coffee?
Speaker: I had like four coffees and a piece of tea today.
Speaker: So lots of coffee.
Speaker: And when you make your coffee, do you think about it or do you just make it the same way every time?
Speaker: Same way every time.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Because that's your brain on autopilot.
Speaker: That's how the brain likes to work.
Speaker: It doesn't want to think about, hey, could I change it up?
Speaker: Maybe I'll like it.
Speaker: It doesn't want to think that way.
Speaker: So that can work against you or for you though.
Speaker: For me, you can make it work for you because that's how people go to the gym.
Speaker: You don't really think about it.
Speaker: Okay, it's part of my routine.
Speaker: I'm going to go to the gym.
Speaker: But at first, you're very against it because, again, you're stepping out of the comfort zone.
Speaker: So –
Speaker: It's about breaking patterns.
Speaker: Got to break the pattern.
Speaker: And that's what I do for people too.
Speaker: Like people say, hey, can I help you?
Speaker: And like you can feel people's energy right away.
Speaker: Like people were very – like we're energy beings.
Speaker: Like you can feel people's energy.
Speaker: If someone comes to you and says like, hey, welcome, can I help you?
Speaker: It's like, okay.
Speaker: This person is having a bad day.
Speaker: They're like, hey, how's your day going?
Speaker: Oh, not bad.
Speaker: What can I do for you?
Speaker: No, like what's wrong?
Speaker: You good?
Speaker: Whoa.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: What?
Speaker: you just broke my pad what you actually you don't want every day yeah you don't just want fry what like you just completely pulled them out of right they're an autopilot negative negative negative and then this person comes along says no we're gonna breathe for a second what's up you okay like you say interrupt the pattern give them giving them something different actually on late of that said how you doing i'm fine i was like how you feeling she's like i'm cool i'm like you sure she's like yeah i said how's your heart she's like huh
Speaker: That's my heart.
Speaker: I was like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker: She's like, I think it's good.
Speaker: It's like, okay, just making sure.
Speaker: Even just saying, just making sure makes a person think that, okay, you care about me.
Speaker: Or there's people out here that think I do matter.
Speaker: And that's all people need sometimes.
Speaker: Like you don't have to do this grandiose thing.
Speaker: It is literally sometimes, sometimes people just want to know that somebody cares.
Speaker: And if you sit down and you say something like that,
Speaker: maybe that's all that person needed the other day i took an uber or a lyft whatever and i i sat down and uh they said matt i said yeah and they drove off i said how's your day going that's all right i said why just all right why not great and they went well it's just a busy day okay it's a busy day but hey you got a job you woke up above ground right well yeah okay what are you doing this weekend and
Speaker: Well, there's a concert I want to see.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: You're going to go to a concert.
Speaker: And just like snap people out of that pattern, that state.
Speaker: And that's all it takes is honestly – it's literally just a matter of kindness.
Speaker: Kindness, love.
Speaker: Real simple.
Speaker: Telling people – simple.
Speaker: It's like how you doing?
Speaker: Hey, I'm great.
Speaker: I woke up.
Speaker: Oh, wow.
Speaker: Dude, exactly.
Speaker: Dude, are we the same person?
Speaker: What's going on here?
Speaker: How are you feeling?
Speaker: I'm phenomenal.
Speaker: I like that word.
Speaker: Bro, yes.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Can I – okay, you just got me real excited.
Speaker: For real.
Speaker: Every time somebody asks me, how are you?
Speaker: Phenomenal.
Speaker: Excellent.
Speaker: Excellent.
Speaker: How many times has somebody said to you, how are you feeling?
Speaker: Oh, not bad.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Anyone listen to this.
Speaker: How many times have you said that?
Speaker: You probably say that every time.
Speaker: Oh, not bad.
Speaker: Why are you afraid to say, I am amazing?
Speaker: I'm amazing.
Speaker: I had a freaking phenomenal day.
Speaker: Why not?
Speaker: Why are you afraid to say that?
Speaker: Because maybe you're afraid they're not having a good day.
Speaker: Guess what?
Speaker: If you say that, that brings them up.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: When you – we talked about accepting negative energy.
Speaker: If you don't accept that negative energy –
Speaker: It forces that person to come up to your level.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Energy.
Speaker: Come on, baby, baby.
Speaker: It's real.
Speaker: It's real.
Speaker: If somebody says something negative, what are they trying to do?
Speaker: They're trying to pull you down to where they're at.
Speaker: Because they're in that state.
Speaker: They're in that state.
Speaker: Nope.
Speaker: But thank you.
Speaker: And what's wrong?
Speaker: Are you okay?
Speaker: Whoa, just broke my pattern.
Speaker: This guy cares about me.
Speaker: You just bumped him up a little bit.
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: What's wrong?
Speaker: Talk to me.
Speaker: Talk to me.
Speaker: You're just bumping him up, right?
Speaker: It's like, you know, really, and at the end of the day, it's both a selfless thing and a selfish thing, which is perfectly fine because the way that it's selfless is obviously you want to help that person.
Speaker: But it's selfish in that...
Speaker: You're really helping yourself because you – if you accept that negative energy or try to come down, you're only hurting yourself.
Speaker: Like there's some people that they want to build the tallest building in their city or for themselves.
Speaker: Let's say yourself as a city.
Speaker: Well, a lot of ways people do that is they try – there's two ways of building the biggest building in town.
Speaker: Again, this is like a little Tony Robbins action I think right now.
Speaker: You can – there's two ways.
Speaker: One, you can tear down everybody else's building.
Speaker: That will give you the tallest building.
Speaker: Or you can work on your building and building the greatest building that you possibly can.
Speaker: So there's two ways.
Speaker: And there's the thing.
Speaker: We've got to wrap up here, but before we go – Oh, come on.
Speaker: I've got water in my mouth.
Speaker: I'm not done.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: Come on, man.
Speaker: We're dropping gems, bro.
Speaker: We definitely got to hang out more and –
Speaker: We're friends for sure.
Speaker: Can I come back in here?
Speaker: Yeah, of course.
Speaker: What I will say, which you just said about the buildings, I tell people the hardest work you're ever doing in life is on yourself.
Speaker: And I also want to commend you for being here, for talking about your depression and your video.
Speaker: But why not?
Speaker: It's nothing.
Speaker: Right, but what I'm saying is people in your space, with your following and with your fan base, most people...
Speaker: probably won't do that because they might fear the resistance or the negativity.
Speaker: Like, oh, you're trying to use that.
Speaker: You want people to feel bad and, you know, love you more or whatever.
Speaker: So I just want to say thank you for having a bigger conversation with us about that.
Speaker: Thank you for coming, sharing your light, your wisdom, your energy, your awesomeness.
Speaker: And this is amazing.
Speaker: I think people out here listening, if you do have a mental issue or there is some depression or some stress, speak up.
Speaker: There's people that want to help.
Speaker: I mean, follow this guy on YouTube.
Speaker: I mean, I do a lot of motivation on my Instagram.
Speaker: But I think also people in that state, they should be around positive, uplifting people because energy is real and it helps.
Speaker: And some people, energy can depict your mood.
Speaker: And we need that.
Speaker: We need more people like you.
Speaker: And it's important.
Speaker: And I just want to say thank you.
Speaker: Thanks, man.
Speaker: Where can we find you?
Speaker: Man, I'm everywhere, man.
Speaker: YouTube, Instagram.
Speaker: By the way, this guy might be the flyest guest we had.
Speaker: He got Yeezys, the Babe Jagger.
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: I didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker: Got the hair mask bracelet on?
Speaker: Come on, man.
Speaker: I got that Babe on.
Speaker: No, I like a little fashion one as well.
Speaker: But yeah, thanks, man.
Speaker: I appreciate that.
Speaker: So before we go, finish this sentence.
Speaker: I am...
Speaker: One word?
Speaker: Whatever comes to mind.
Speaker: I mean two words came to my mind when you said that.
Speaker: Love and power.
Speaker: I am powerful and I am love.
Speaker: I am love and I am power.
Speaker: Like I am limitless in my potential and I am a loving being of energy.
Speaker: Those are the first two words that came to my head.
Speaker: Love is –
Speaker: Us.
Speaker: You.
Speaker: It just is.
Speaker: It's everywhere.
Speaker: It's you.
Speaker: Like that's the thing.
Speaker: We are – like we are created from love.
Speaker: Like whatever you want to call that god, the universe, like energy, the source energy.
Speaker: Like you can call – it's all the same thing, right?
Speaker: Like to me, we all pray to the same god.
Speaker: Like whether you call it like Allah, God, whatever.
Speaker: It's all –
Speaker: like that's why i don't understand yeah that's why i don't understand like the conflicts in the world it's like at the end of the day we're all there's there's a higher being and we're all going to meet that thing whatever he or she is or it so it's like you know i'm saying but we all come from that so you know it's it's it's the things of this world that pervert that and and and corrupt us and that's where like mental health stuff comes from it's like
Speaker: It's like you're getting away.
Speaker: If you just approach things with love, you'd be shocked at how your life would change.
Speaker: And it comes down to not accepting the gift of negative energy.
Speaker: Try that.
Speaker: Literally, can I just say one thing before we go?
Speaker: I literally, anyone listening right now, next time somebody, and I really mean this, and this is going to sound crazy to you, but I want you to just try it once.
Speaker: It's not going to kill you.
Speaker: Next time somebody does something real negative to you,
Speaker: With all the love in your heart, say, you know what?
Speaker: No, thank you.
Speaker: I don't accept your gift of negative energy, but I hope you have a better day.
Speaker: And I hope you, you know, I have nothing but love for you.
Speaker: They're going to look at you like you have three heads.
Speaker: Like, what is wrong?
Speaker: What do you mean not Monday?
Speaker: But watch their reaction.
Speaker: They're going to, what you just did was push it back at them.
Speaker: Because they're just going to get more angry because you didn't take some of that off them.
Speaker: So it builds up in them.
Speaker: But,
Speaker: That's not for you to change.
Speaker: And I want people just try that once.
Speaker: You don't have to make that your mantra, but try it once.
Speaker: Next time that happens, no thank you.
Speaker: Real calm.
Speaker: Just don't let it – don't even let it through.
Speaker: No thanks.
Speaker: I don't accept your gift of negative energy.
Speaker: But hey, you know what?
Speaker: It sounds like you're going through a tough day.
Speaker: I really want the best for you and I got nothing but love for you.
Speaker: And like maybe we'll talk later and it will be all good for you.
Speaker: Man.
Speaker: Just do that.
Speaker: Watch what happens.
Speaker: Watch what happens.
Speaker: I mean, we got so much love for you just for giving that advice.
Speaker: So thank you once again, people.
Speaker: Rate, review, subscribe, follow Matt.
Speaker: Matt Santoro, YouTube sensation, comedian, author.
Speaker: I can find you everywhere, right?
Speaker: Yeah, man.
Speaker: The biggest things – I mean I literally am on everything.
Speaker: Right now, YouTube, of course, I make like information – I call it infotainment with a twist of comedy.
Speaker: So like top tens.
Speaker: I have a series called 50 Amazing Facts.
Speaker: It's just amazing.
Speaker: If you go on Facebook and you see like random facts or like you follow like OMG facts or anything like that, that's what I do but on my YouTube channel.
Speaker: um so check me out there i started a brand called uh fact maniac which is a side brand of mine not has nothing to do with me it's its own thing i really believe in it uh i want to put on this podcast right now it's going to be huge one day i really believe that and i'm putting that into the universe and trust me it's going to be huge one day fact maniac it's going to be its own thing it's going to have a cartoon it's going to have plush dolls it's going to have all that but right now
Speaker: It's just a social media presence.
Speaker: It's Twitter.
Speaker: It's Facebook.
Speaker: It's Instagram.
Speaker: Go check it out.
Speaker: It's just like info cards like, hey, did you know that Walt Disney was fired from his newspaper because he wasn't creative enough?
Speaker: That's an actual thing.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: Facts.
Speaker: Facts.
Speaker: So check that out.
Speaker: Check me out on Twitter and Instagram and Snapchat if you still use that.
Speaker: It's just at Matthew Santoro on all social media platforms.
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Speaker: There it is, people.
Speaker: Fact Maniac, Matt Santoro, Bigger Talks.
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Speaker: Oh, my God.
Speaker: This was a good one.
Speaker: Thank you, Matt.
Speaker: Olivia, thank you.
Speaker: Mike, thank you.
Speaker: We did it.
Speaker: It's a miracle season.
Speaker: Bigger Talks, we out.
Speaker: Peace.
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Speaker: Closer to the border.
Speaker: I'm Ed Donoghue with an AP News Minute.
Speaker: Thousands of migrants from Honduras have reached southern Mexico.
Speaker: People are sleeping in the streets.
Speaker: They have had to deal with severe heat on their journey.
Speaker: It's not stopping people like Luis Porto.
Speaker: We're going to fight.
Speaker: We're going to keep on going.
Speaker: We're not going to stop.
Speaker: President Trump wants to stop them.
Speaker: I think some bad people started that caravan.
Speaker: More importantly, or maybe almost as importantly, you have some very, very bad people in the caravan.
Speaker: You have some very tough criminal elements within the caravan.
Speaker: And the president talked about bringing, possibly bringing the military to the border.
Speaker: Former NFL wide receiver Ray Carruth has been released from prison in North Carolina.
Speaker: He served 18 years for conspiring to murder the mother of his unborn child.
Speaker: The child was delivered by emergency cesarean section, but suffers from permanent brain damage and cerebral palsy.
Speaker: I'm Ed Donoghue.
