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Breathe with Me: Kundalini Activation in Caribbean Costa Rica
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Jameelah Nuriddin - @Jameelah Creates, an integrative somatic specialist, shares transformative power of Kundalini Activation, as one of a few hundred people in the world to become a certified Kundalini Activation facilitator. She hares her personal journey of healing and spiritual growth, emphasizing the importance of slowing down and listening to one's intuition. Janna and Jameelah dive into intersection of science and spirituality, the reclamation of ancestral wisdom, and the collective responsibility to dismantle systemic oppression. In this conversation. We discuss the importance of reconnecting with African spirituality, the power of somatic practices in healing trauma, and the distinction between Kundalini activation and awakening. The conversation emphasizes the need for community healing and the detoxification process that accompanies deep emotional work. We share our thoughts on the parallels between Kundalini and plant medicine, emphasizing the need for safe spaces and authentic practitioners in the healing journey. Jameelah shares her upcoming training programs aimed at empowering individuals to lead in this work, particularly in Africa, highlighting the significance of returning healing practices to their roots.
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Introduction of Jamila Nouradine
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Hey, what's Greetings, fam. Welcome to another episode of Spirit in the Material World. I'm your host, Jana Zinzi, also known as Jazz.
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And I'm so excited today to have this beautiful, magical being, my special guest, Jamila Nouradine. Also known as Jamila Creates, and she is an integrative somatic specialist, a multi-certified energy worker, and I've seen her in action.
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um So she specializes in kundalini activation. We're going to talk more about that so because that's juicy stuff. Also, Satnam Rasayan and transent Transcendental Meditation.
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She has sat with Aboriginal energy workers from West Africa, Yoruba culture, and traditional Nankari healers. trying to get my pronunciation properly done.
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um And what's one of the really coolest things I've seen her ah grow in this space is that she's one of the few hundred people in the world to be a certified Kundalini activation facilitator and was taught to transmit raw cuon Kundalini life force energy directly from the creator of CAP and that's the Kundalini activation process.
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She has a unique background in performing arts, Satnam Rasayan, breathwork, trauma healing, and West African Yoruba spirituality, which she blends to create a powerful alchemy of grounding and healing energy.
Jamila's Journey to Kundalini Activation
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And this really helps her connect her clients um to their innate divinity and inner wisdom. And it's been ah a pleasure and a blessing to be in those spaces with her. So welcome, Jamila.
00:01:53
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oh Hello, welcome, welcome. Thank you for that beautiful welcome. Yes, yes. I'm so excited you're here. um i really just want to dive in with you. um we have such a shared love of travel and spirituality.
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Um, and we go deep when it comes into talking about, you know, ancestor ancestors, right. And how we are brought to the work and the places that we are. So if you can share a bit about your journey to, um, cap and like, what is Kundalini activation energy? How did you even get put on to, to this, this practice?
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Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you for welcoming me. What a great question to start with. um I think I found Kundalini activation in the same way a lot of but people find their healing modalities just through a need to heal my own to heal my own personal growth and development and wellness journey.
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um And also becoming aware of my the intergenerational trauma that lived inside of my body. It continues to, I'm honest. And um kind of tending to that, I started to do a lot of different things.
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i think I think yoga was the first gateway drug into spirituality. I remember getting my first certification at 19 when I was still going to school. And um like that Shiva Ray DVD, man, it really took me deep. Like it was just, I was i was just doing yoga all the time. I really saw, started having these spiritual experiences.
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Then I really got into meditation. and that took me to all these different heights and all these different altered states. I started to really feel connected to my ancestors and like my intuition. ah But it really wasn't until I started doing breathwork training, I feel like. I did a lot of other things in between, but I feel like breathwork started to get really non-dual like nondual states. It started to get really kind of psychedelic experiences. I did a lot of plant medicine as well, or a fair amount.
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I sat with Grandmother Aya five or six times, maybe be seven times. o Psilocybin was a big part of my journey of just unlocking my connection with nature and starting to see nature around me as what it is, which is alive.
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um That shaped me so deeply. But with Kundalini activation, it was like a whole nother level. ka I was also got into Kundalini yoga before that. So I love Kundalini energy. I felt like i felt always felt like Kundalini yoga was like the energy energetic version of of like Hatha yoga.
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It was like, it's
Understanding Kundalini Activation
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the energy version. You know, you have kind of more intense versions and then you have like Iyengar, which is about holding the long poses and Bikram. That's ah kind of about this system of like ringing out the body.
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But I felt like Kundalini yoga was all about your energetic body. And it's it's really ancient. It's really beautiful. But I felt like kundalini activation was almost like just, it was like they're in the middle of a kundalini yoga class. There'll be these moments or these like little pockets of time where you hit this like sh altered state where things are really changing on a, like a metaphysical level in your body and your mind and your spirit.
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But it felt like kundalini activation was just that part. Because the Kundalini Yoga or all the other different ways I've experienced it, it's like there's a physical aspect of like tiring out the body usually.
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hiring out the mind even. and it's like after this process of like wearing myself out, then these kinds of states come. But clearly activation just asks you to lay back, surrender, and just lay back into those states, relax into those states, which is a different way of approaching those states.
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And so very quickly, because we're in a state of surrender with this work, I started to really get messages and downloads from my ancestral line. And now you and I can go round round all day about the ancestors, and I think that we will.
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But I also just want to preface it for the non-woo that I think there's many different words for this energy. i think, you know, ancestors, another word for that, you know, people talk about guardian angels or or, you know, angelic beings. I think that obviously they can be different, but it's still like a guiding force that knows more than you do that can shape your life and will listen if you, you know, slow down enough to hear it ah You can talk about you know the animal world or nature guiding you in that way.
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um Same thing, something that knows more than you do that might be guiding you if you slow down enough to listen. and you And if you really just need to take a full step out of it entirely, i think we can talk about the subconscious mind.
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something that knows more than your little tiny consciousness. We know that that's there. It's running 95% of the show, in fact, and it knows more than you do, and it will guide you if you slow down.
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And listen, it's the same kind of rules apply where if you trust, if you let go, if you stop trying to control every minute of your life, something more ancient and more beautiful can step forward, and and it it it will lead you on a path that you may not expect, but that actually holds medicine for you.
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And that's what I really discovered with the Kundalini activation. Yeah. Wow. It feels um really important in this time, that piece about slowing down.
Transition from Entertainment to Healing
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i talk I've talked about this a lot. You and I have had conversations, but also in other episodes um about that need for slowdown and how particularly I would say being in the United States, but I think also being someone from the United States that works with folks in the United States, um and then thinking even more layered of like, black and brown folks, black and brown women, black women, um that need to slow down and not having that permission.
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so I'm wondering, as you were talking, you know i got to see, folks don't know, but you and I were roommates for um a minute in Costa Rica together in the Caribbean. And that yeah it was such a yeah almost such a special time.
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yes yeah I cannot believe that. That blows my mind that that was that long ago. um So you didn't necessarily, like this is something when you were living in the States that you kind of flirted with or like, you know, took your studies, you know, did studies. yeah But do you think that moving to Costa Rica or moving outside of a U.S. context yeah helped you develop your practice and more so just not just that, your leadership in this space?
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For sure. um What happened was I started taking the the, I was as a student of this energy first for many years. And the more that I did the sessions, I but i was like pretty much faithful every week.
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I needed it every week. I was coming from the entertainment industry and I had a very masculine job. You know, a lot of entertainment is very like, go, go, go, no time for sleep, no time for even politeness, you know, kind of energy.
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And ah you're not a human being, you're a thing. Time is of the, like, it's very patriarchal, very capitalistic, very, like, it's not really tending to nervous systems at all, right? The way that a lot of traditional, that's not the way my film sets are now, but it was something I had to learn and almost decolonize out of my artistic practices. But at the time I was working in these hyper, like, masculine, like, you know, industry,
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And my whole right side was locked up, my masculine side. I had frozen shoulder on my right side. i had TMJ on my right jaw from not speaking my truth. Like everything was just like locked up and closed.
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And so when I found, you know, kundalini activation as a student, um remember not knowing what the hell it was. Most people don't. It can't really be explained. You have to experience it. And I remember reading and being like, I like kundalini energy. I'm going in this.
00:09:54
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Sounds good. And I remember laying down and not knowing what to expect, but then all of a sudden my body's starting to like move on its own. And I noticed that my jaw started vibrating faster than I could ever consciously move it. It was moving so quickly.
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And my shoulder was doing these like kind of long, big, slow movements. you know, just wanted to move that way. and And I had to like surrender and just let it do, you know, and I felt very healed after the session. Like I felt physically better. There was emotional releases. There was laughing. There was crying, all kinds of stuff happens. It's really beautiful.
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And it wasn't until like a few weeks later, I was going to physical therapy for something else. And they hooked me up to this, like electron, like electrolysis machine. And they started, you know, putting mild currents through my, you know, through that part of the body. And it started to vibrate in the exact same speed that my jaw was doing in the session.
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And I was like, oh, I'll be. Look, my body was just doing that because it knew to do that. And it was giving me, it gives, it's almost like it gives you what you need. So through my own personal practice, I started to develop a strong relationship with my body.
00:10:56
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My, again, my ancestors, I started to be able to have like, like ask questions and receive answers sort of receive guidance, whether I wanted it or not, if that makes sense, like just started to be told and led what to do. And I, you know, at first when it would happen, I wouldn't always trust it.
00:11:13
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And then would do the thing against my intuition. And then that made logical sense. And then it would always like not work out, like, you know, and I look back, I'd be like, oh, I should have listened my intuition. So you told me. on the process Sometimes even still to this day, because it's layers, it goes deeper and deeper.
Trusting Intuition and Finding Peace
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and there's a part that you'll trust. And then there's another part that you're like, oh, but I can't trust him that. Surely I can trust it with my living situation. I can trust it with this cup of coffee or like who to go on a date with. But I can't trust it with something like to quit my job or do this or that. Right.
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So you have these like, like, that's why it keeps going. But I started to really listen and just, like, gamble. It felt like gambling. It felt like just risking, stepping out on faith, you know, just, like, risking it all, like, listening.
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And smaller smaller at first and larger and larger things. um And then when they told me, like, I got the very clear download to go to not just Costa Rica, but to go to Puerto Viejo, where I met you, Jana. Thank you, Jana.
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I didn't know much about, didn't know anything about it. i had to look it up. i'm like, oh, so this is like the black place in course and Costa Rica. good That makes sense. But like, I still didn't understand why until I got here. And I had to just like pack up all my stuff and like sell all my, so sell my you know, like possessions, give things away, buy kind of a one-way plane ticket.
00:12:32
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You know, and let's step out on the faith. And like, literally, i was like, this is crazy. I can't even tell people that I'm doing this because so many people in my life would like, you know, not understand or shun me. um But I, you know, i told people who i needed to tell. And I just was like, listen, if it doesn't work out, I did have like a slight black backup plan. I was like, if it doesn't work out, I'll go to Ghana.
00:12:50
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There was this trip to Ghana that people were going, like some group was doing. and I was like, if I hate it in six weeks, I'll go to Ghana. And if I don't like Ghana, I know, I know I've been to Bali before. I'll go to Bali. Like, I like Bali. that I was... been in Bali a long time ago. i don't even know if I can still handle Bali. It sounds like it's changed a lot.
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It's a lot. Right. um But anyway, I did that. I stepped out and I went and yeah, the second within two days of being in Porto, I was like, oh, bitch, you're going to be here for a minute. You're going to be here for a couple of years. Okay. All right. Because it was like a place where I could heal.
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And from the moment I got there, like the amount of rest I was able to allow, that I was able to give myself in a way that I couldn't give myself in LA, in the way in a way that my nervous system simply could not.
00:13:34
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downshift into in LA. It just could not. The threshold is just far too high. the the The median state of anxiety level is just at a certain tender, at a certain tip, like a, you know.
00:13:46
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Yes, frequency. but Frequency. And think the states in general, but especially some of the big cities like LA, New York. where there's just like this low level of things i remember i used to wake up every every every day pretty much in la like with the start like like i was like i was late you know what i mean like even on my day like you know like this feeling of being behind on this hamster wheel and i remember uh like within the first couple of weeks of being in puerto um waking up and like crying from gratitude because i would wake up so gently but the birds and the
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howler monkeys and the like this like this the aliveness and it'd be so gentle a light would be pouring in and I didn't have anywhere to be right away and I would just well up with tears mu for so many days because I was just like this is what it feels like to wake up in a peaceful state and it was just something that I didn't have access to really since I was a kid ah just like being feeling free like truly free i think especially for black Americans getting out of America is a necessity Not that there isn't racism and prejudice and colorism and other things in other places that, you know, it's universe, it's everywhere, sadly, at this point on planet. But it's that the the flavor of racism be different in different places. And like, i always say, like, there's racism here in Costa Rica, but I'm just not allergic to it yet.
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Like, I'm like, oh, look at the little color result. Oh, like, it just doesn't bother me. it doesn't It doesn't get up under my skin in the way because it's new. It's still, it's kind of just fascinating. It's interesting.
00:15:12
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You know, it's not the 500,000th, you know, drop of water on this one spot that's like sending me insane It's not that. And so it's just a different way of being. And the moment I came, I see why my ancestors told me to come.
00:15:29
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I manifested 10K to do this training because it's about a 10, it's a five, it's a five figure training to get certified in Kundalini activation, no matter how you slice it pretty much, because it's such a rare model. There's so few people that can kind of transmit this and teach others that, and yeah, I mean, it's increasing every day. I think more and more people are,
00:15:50
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able to hold the field because we as a people are evolving. But back at the time that I did it, yeah, you, it it was an, and I remember seeing the price of the training and thinking like, shit, maybe in my sixties, I can afford something, you know like when I'm retired or I put it off as like not possible. But then right when I moved Everything opened up. Like I just manifested the income, the jobs that I needed that were remote, like everything just boop, boop, boop, boop.
00:16:13
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Because when you listen, you're not alone. That's all I can say. Like you're not, it's like something is working behind the scenes, helping things out. And you just have to be able to recognize where in your body your intuition is communicating with you and be able to tell the difference between your intuition and your fear-based thoughts and your habituated way of thinking.
00:16:32
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Sometimes people be mistaking those things. Yes. used to, but yeah, I, I, and I can't tell you for, I can't give you the prescription that you want me to give you for that right now. Since people are listening, you're going to go like, Oh, what is it?
00:16:45
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It's a little bit, right. It's little bit more um intuitive than that. cause it's unique in each person, but I can give you some guidelines that really helped me. Yeah, please do. Yeah. I think, I think too.
00:16:57
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it really is this ongoing um journey of the more that you get to know yourself, the more you're in tune with like, what is anxious thinking or what is um you know, what is that intuition? What is ancestral messaging? What is divine messaging from, you know, God or angels, wherever, you know, whatever, or subconscious, as you said, versus those, know,
00:17:23
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fear-based and then thus like the ego trying to protect you from change or from, you know, stepping, stepping out on faith or stepping into something new.
00:17:35
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um And so yeah I'd love to know like what some of those yeah ways in which that you guide folks and also how breathwork has helped you make those distinctions. reverse Yeah. Breathwork came before Kundalini activation in my journey as far it was ah I got certified with
Science and Ancient Spiritual Practices
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Sadea Fox. Anybody knows? Shout out to Sadea. She does a beautiful ah women of ah people of color ah you know training and breath work. And it was really beautiful for me. It's where they really go hand in hand for me. I rarely do lead breath work now because I'm just so in love with Kundalini Activation. I feel like it holds within it the seeds of more potential.
00:18:14
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But I think breath work... yeah I'm sorry, I was going to ask, well, what's the difference then? I thought like breathwork was a part of kundalini activation. Breathwork is a pranic energy. Breathwork uses prana, pranic energy, which is breath, you know, or or life force in some way.
00:18:29
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Pranic energy is a part of kundalini energy, but kundalini energy is a bit more. Kundalini energy also messes with your, or not messes, it affects your electromagnetic field. there's There's more science actually behind kundalini energy because people are starting to measure it.
00:18:45
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ah they they They call it in science, they call it the morphogenetic field, which part of me is like, shut up, science. Shut up. Like you over here, just shut up. but But at the same time, come on, keep what come on, deal a little research. give us another It's another way of looking at it. But yeah, they call them morphogenetic field.
00:19:04
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I always make the joke that science is like the last of the party than the loudest in the room. So, cause it just, they're getting so like nerdy and, but I like, I like, I like evidence-based research. Like that's the thing I geek out over this stuff. So I'm like, I do want it, but just acknowledge that there were people saying this, you know, tens of thousands of years ago, you know, for a long time and nobody, everyone thought it was bullshit until like very recently with somatic therapy and now quantum, you know, theory, physics, and all. I'm like, oh, okay, it's real, it's real, okay.
00:19:34
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And I'm just like, all right, that's why I get little frustrated. But at the same time, I'm happy, because I like when we were kids, like science and spirituality did not go together. And now they go together. They like friends. They're like skipping down the street. You know, they got each other like, yeah, I'm like, this is cool. Yeah.
00:19:52
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like you know I don't know about you, but for a long time, i was always the woo-woo weirdo. Yes. um on so many different levels. Like my approach to feminism was always, or not always, but really in my twenties was around goddess energy and like spirituality yeah and divine feminine was my understanding um or kind of my grounding in how I would approach feminism or think about feminism or think about wellness. wellness
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You know, like to me, I'm like, Theory, cool. All right. Like I can, you know, connect with the academic piece of it. But like what really was going to get me invested in it was like, I want to know about these goddesses and like their energy and those stories and, you know, quantum theory, quantum physics, my thoughts, you know, so it's funny though. And also like bringing ancestors in and bringing, you know, these more kind of non-tangible, know,
00:20:57
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but deep knowing into spaces. And so I really appreciate now that I think there's more of an appreciation and more of a reclamation, yeah i would say, especially around, you know, with black women, with women of color, with, you know, um,
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you know queer and non-binary and trans folks really like reconnecting with those things that we knew yes but have been told like yeah that's crazy that's silly like you don't have evidence of that like where's the data i'm like sure you know I mean, made fun of and killed for like that. We forget that part two years ago, not even maybe even 50 years ago.
00:21:40
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Like you liable to be, you know, stoned to death, things like that for saying something and doing some of these things. And yes, we're just really remembering who we are. Like, I think that's what the goddess energy allows us to do is it's like how used to be before the patriarchy, because we we think that like, that's the only way that life was and it's like, no.
00:21:57
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There was whole societies, whole last civilizations before the patriarchy, before there was even a concept of race where there was racism. There was there who earth black people going around, you know, sharing knowledge, sharing mathematics and astronomy and, you know, and we forget all of
Reclaiming African Spiritual Practices
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this. Like, you know, it's not taught. i mean, it's not in the popular vernacular.
00:22:18
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of knowing of course so people just kind of get pigeonholed and just what is right now or what recently was and no it's like we were these in with these ancient beings we have connection to the stars you know in our yes you know and so it gets really deep when you start to like recall that and it puts it all in perspective and it does give a sense of like ownership and autonomy and power and self-love and self-awareness that I think certain powers that be that been preying on people basically financially the last 500 years don't want people to feel.
00:22:50
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You're a lot harder than soul if you feel like you're part of the stars. like they won't do Exactly. Or connected to, you know, Orisha, right? Ancient African spirituality. And then on top of it, to you know, or even more like recently,
00:23:07
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the way that voodoo is is demonized because of the power of that in terms of revolution, right? The Haitian revolution in terms of overthrowing white supremacy and, you know,
00:23:20
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it's it's all connected of that discont it's It's all connected that we have been disconnected. Yes. And also to your point, demonized. And there's places to this day with across the diaspora where you can be, you know, criminalized.
00:23:35
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Yes. Like literally thrown in jail, arrested. By our own people. That's what's messed up. They don't have to do it anymore. They don't even perpetuate it anymore. One of my favorite like people I work with, her name Joyelle Arvella. She's an incredible doula. Everyone should look her up.
00:23:51
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She says the most beautiful thing. She goes, if if people of color, which I'll just call the global majority, wake up tomorrow, because we are. We wake up tomorrow. Stop perpetuating white supremacy.
00:24:02
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It would end. If just we stopped perpetuating white supremacy, it would end. yeah And so when I kind of realized that, this probably really hit me like maybe sadly like 2019, I think I heard that 2018, somewhere in there.
00:24:16
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I was like full stop. I shifted from trying to prove my humanity prove, cause I had a lot of like perfectionism, you know, I was straight A honor roll, graduated high school with a 4.2, you know, you know the story, right? I had depressed hair, the long press, like, you know. Relaxer. Relaxer. You know, we had that, it was like a status thing in like,
00:24:39
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I've been told, you better go to college. you better move My parents fought like hell. We were first-generation college students. They were like, you're going to go to college. You're going to do this. You're gonna break out, you know all this stuff. You're stuff that me and your mom couldn't do, me and your dad couldn't do.
00:24:53
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And I'm really grateful for that, but it was still limited because it was still playing in somebody else's game, essentially. And this game where you have to get your proximity to whiteness ah determines your value.
00:25:05
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And when I kind of divorced that idea many decades later with with reaching you know whatever height you think you want, whatever assimilation you think you iss going to protect you, it doesn't. And it's there's nothing at the end of that fucking rainbow. Yeah.
00:25:20
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ah You know what I mean? There's nothing there. you Yes. Nothing there. And you're left with nothing. You're left with nothing to either keep up the facade or to really come home to yourself. And I chose to come home to myself. And I started to realize, like, oh, this is all just to get us to disconnect.
00:25:37
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There's a reason why we can have Coco, which I love that movie, that Pixar film Coco, all about Mexican. So beautiful. So beautiful. Cry every time. Love it. We can have Mulan.
00:25:48
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It talks about Chinese ancestry and their connection to their ancestors and the whole thing. and that Beautiful. Wonderful. But anytime we come anywhere near African spirituality, it is demonized. It's demonic. It's scary. It's who that like Tiana. The faces. Just right. Even in our own movies, the faces are distorted. They're up to no good. The characters are all shady.
00:26:12
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shadow man That is not by, that's not a coincidence, boo-boos. That is not a coincidence because we are the most powerful, we have the oldest religion on earth. Yorba is the oldest religion.
00:26:23
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It's where all other religions stem from. You can see it. If you study it at all, you will see it. And they had to shut that all the way down in order to try to commodify, maybe even effectively commodify the whole continent, including its people and resources.
00:26:36
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They had to take it, they to rob us, make us afraid of our own spirituality. Run the other direction, let alone sit and be with ourselves and actually connect. us So when you connect back to it, it's a very powerful, potent thing.
00:26:48
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And it's like the ancestors are ready, whatever part of it whatever you want to call it. It's ready for us to just to wake up a little bit, slide in, just s slide up in our DMs, just a little bit and be like, hey, baby, I'm going to need you to get this together so we can help humanity. Because there's going to be savior for humanity, if there's going to be any sort of saving of the human race, I believe it's going to come from the global South. It's going to come from the global majority, from our oppressed practices.
00:27:14
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ah Because, you know, it hasn't worked. Like, we we did that. We did the Industrial Revolution to its fullest. We were in a super, in a post, what is it, fourth or fifth wave capitalism? Yes. We followed that to the end of the rainbow, too. And there ain't shit on that side, either.
00:27:29
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you had And still following. It's still following all of the stuff and still be miserable. In fact, we all know people it's so common. We all know people who have it all and have nothing. They're morally bereft.
00:27:40
Speaker
Right. And so yes we have to check that. Yes. No, I mean, you know, as a efa practitioner, you know, I'm feeling everything that that you're saying and grateful to be reconnected with, with that and, and feeling very,
00:28:00
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very deeply how much of a healing force it has been for me, you know, and also really excited by people's like, especially, you know, black folks, black and brown people's interest and like, you know, reclamation in some ways, right. Tiptoeing in, in whatever fashion, whatever ways, you know, are accessible and make sense.
00:28:23
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And so feeling really grateful for that. And that, that is, that power, the more that folks tap into that, the more that we tap into that, the more power is available, the more healing we can do on a communal level. Um, and societally like starting within,
00:28:41
Speaker
but also how we are in community with each other, um i think can really be influenced by IFA, traditional African spiritualities, you know, across the diaspora. So I'm feeling you on that.
00:28:58
Speaker
And so to it back Kundalini activation, how does that fit into, how have you like merged or,
00:29:09
Speaker
you know, broaden different pieces of like Yoruba spirituality, this, um you know, um I'm assuming, is it Buddhist meditation practices? some of them With Kundalini, like what does that all...
00:29:24
Speaker
yeah How does that all play together? Well, it plays together really nicely because Kundalini is so old, it predates written language. So it predates concepts of Buddhism. It predates concepts of, ah you know, really ah groups of people that like it's before we have time recorded.
00:29:42
Speaker
right so the ashe if you're familiar with ashe and and west african right um i know you are for sure it uh it's the exact same that is also kundalini energy you're talking about ashe we're talking about chi from chinese medicine chi and like the the energy that moves through all living things that is also kundalini energy right we have them science catching up with the morphogenetic field morphogenesis we got all the There all the different ways to say it. Again, pranic energy in some Southeast Asian places, like, you know, that's what they call it.
00:30:12
Speaker
It's all the same. It has the same root. You know, you're really just starting to get definitions and certain like, you know, doctrines. But really, it's it's an intelligent life force that exists inside of us and all around us and all living things. It connects all living things and it will guide us.
00:30:28
Speaker
So it already wants to go together.
Kundalini Activation Process
00:30:31
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Because of my background in Yoruba spirituality, I naturally have a tri you know transmission when I hold the field of Kundalini energy that people come here in Costa Rica to come and lay down.
00:30:42
Speaker
They lay down on a yoga mat. I play some music. It's like a group of you know anywhere from eight to 15 people. And then they just start to feel. I go around. I touch certain chakra points. I touch certain meridian energy centers. It's all intuitive. I'm also just surrendering.
00:30:57
Speaker
And people start to feel things. People start to see things. They start to release emotion. They start to move ah their body with with what I call pre-thought movement. It's like your body, your mind catches up to the fact that your body is moving.
00:31:10
Speaker
And then you just don't stop it. You don't judge. You don't you don't bring the monkey mind into it. You just allow, allow. allow And then before you know it, you're purging deep emotions, childhood wounds, you know, um the ancestral wounds, all kinds of things. You're receiving gifts in that same way too from the ancestors, from your line, ah from your you know genetic code, um all kinds of like, all kinds of really, it's almost like the the the um roulette of healing modalities can all happen in a kundalini activation. I think that's why I love it so much.
00:31:45
Speaker
It's different in each and every person that does it. It does not show up the same and in any single person. Like, no two people experience it the same. And then within each individual person's journey, no two sessions are the same. Mm-hmm.
00:31:58
Speaker
It becomes very difficult to pinpoint exactly what it is. And of course, with things that are this deep in this ancient, this old, the second you start to ascribe words to it, it becomes untrue, right? Like it's true in that exact moment, maybe. And then from then on, it's already, it's it's alive. It's alive. It's basically life force. it's It's your body's ability to heal itself. And it and wants to it will if you just get up out the way it naturally wants to you just need to stop overwhelming yourself with incessant thinking and worry and stress on the body if you just stop that for a little bit it's you that's the thing people always like to look at me at the end of a session or they like to look at the facilitators and be like oh you're magic oh you're this oh you're that you're this and that and it's like yeah bitch okay i
00:32:51
Speaker
I am magic. I know I'm i magic. It's true. But that shit, that was you. That was you. I set the table. That's it. I put some nice flowers in a vase. I got you here.
00:33:03
Speaker
I got you to turn off your phone, be away from your phone. foot apart Like I got to you to wait out. Like I did, it I did some stuff, but sure, the healing, that's your own body's natural healing capacity that we all share.
00:33:17
Speaker
that is the That is the divinity in you. That is the godlike nature in you that steps forward and aligns your shit. And when you start doing it all the time or just like frequently on a semi-frequent basis, it's like all things with repetition, like that bandwidth expanse, like your capacity to hold the truth of you thickens.
00:33:36
Speaker
And before you know it, things that used to throw you for a loop in your day that would have you ups and downs and highs and lows and screaming and worrying, you're just like, you're like solid, like a mountain. You're just like, boom, like things happen, but you don't lose your sense of self.
00:33:52
Speaker
Your capacity, your window of capacity widens, thickens. Your ability to to remain ah and and vgus and in nerve terms and polyvagal theory terms, ventral vagal a lot easier. You're able to stay in in a vibration of safety and connectivity. That's what ventral vagal means. It's safety and connection versus we talk about, you know, fight or flight, your sympathetic nervous system, so fight, freeze, fawn, all that.
00:34:18
Speaker
That's, um you know, that has a time and a place. I'm not saying we don't ever want to, we need those states too. There's ah certainly a time you need to fight or or flee. But we get almost stuck in that gear like a car. We are stuck in that gear. We we don't know how to downshift into rest and digest and parasympathetic where we actually alchemize what goes through in the day and grow and learn.
00:34:39
Speaker
that's What is digestion and rest if not like kind of learning and integrating on a deep level? Like we need those things. And that's why people who really don't ever turn off, they have digestion issues. If have trouble sleeping, you have digestion issues, you are disconnected from your parasympathetic nervous system.
00:34:55
Speaker
I can pretty much guarantee. tracks. Right? Legit. ah and you mean i' Right? Go ahead. I've been there. was just going to say, for me, the digestion stuff I know has been linked Yeah. Parasympathetic nervous system reset, vagus nerve, you know, and trying to do those resets. Like I'll listen to, you know, certain sound baths and frequencies ye at night. I know beats. Yeah.
00:35:26
Speaker
Yeah. That's how i started night yeah I started doing it that way too, like externalize. This process with Kundalini activation, it's almost like it happens from the inside of you outward versus putting on headphones and things that like kind of come inward. And this they they both are great. You should do both at the same time, if you're you know, but that inward shift is really, yeah.
00:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I'm curious about. So tell me more about how you, you know, lead groups or how you practice with folks. What does that look like in terms of your sessions?
00:35:58
Speaker
Sure. Do you do them online? Do people, I know you do stuff in Costa Rica too, but. Yeah, I live in Costa Rica, so my live sessions here when I travel. i usually try to sneak a session wherever I travel just because there's so few people who hold this field, especially melanated. We're literally like the most rarest unicorns.
00:36:16
Speaker
I found I was just at like a gathering, I think, to a couple nights ago and someone told me i was like, oh, I very bring rarely bring up what I do ever, really, because it's something that people need to like be led towards.
00:36:29
Speaker
ah such A big decision kind of on a spiritual level in a sense, because it's it'll take you places that you you know, that you need to be ready to go to. And somebody, somehow i I just knew to mention this person. I was like, yeah, I'm doing this. and she was like, I know.
00:36:42
Speaker
She's like, the reason I'm here in Puerto was because I saw that there was a black, like there was a community activation facilitator here. And I literally came to Puerto so I could take one of your their sessions. And so that's why I was just, that I mean, there's been a couple of times that people have said that they've traveled, you know, to different countries in order just to come and receive. And I was like, i need to do this anywhere I go. I feel like I want to sprinkle it a little bit because it's it's, not everybody has a facilitator that lives close to them. I mean, you may.
00:37:08
Speaker
and and And that's great. But also each facilitator is different. And I have that West African vibe to me. So what I do, ah that looks like how I integrate, you know, ah my background into what I do is I really cleanse the space before anyone arrives. As I arrive, I'm really going in with the different herbs, the different smells, the different like, you know,
00:37:29
Speaker
um but To ground the space, to protect the space, you're in a vulnerable place when you go into the states of consciousness. So you want someone there who has some spiritual know-how to make sure that the energy, but that the vibration stays high.
00:37:44
Speaker
um Usually people who do this work are natural protectors, even if they don't know how they're doing it. But it's also nice when someone who intentionally comes in with things. And and and i intentionally ask for support, even from my team of like, let's do this, you know? Yeah.
00:37:57
Speaker
And so, how let me take, let me, yeah I don't know, this thing just moved a little bit. My, my, ah my phone, mama was calling. My mama was calling. She knows. Oh, hi, mom. yeah yeah um And then the, um ah the other thing I do, um so I always bring, I have my maternal grandmother on my mom's side is,
00:38:14
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probably the most lucky, fortunate, blessing, pure energy that I've ever known my, like just, just beautiful. And she is no longer earth side. And her transition was one of the most powerful grief portals I've ever been in. It was like excruciating pain for like 15 seconds when I first heard. And then completely like this luck and like love and less abundance of connection to like,
00:38:43
Speaker
just what it is to like, to like all that it is to have a grandmother's love, you know? and I bring her, her ah s yeah her energy. i'll I'll bring like this flower that we all wore, uh, you know, and her going away, her, her farewell,
00:38:56
Speaker
ah You know, um and I bring her energy into the space. And I also um I end always with this you beautiful prayer to your ori, your crown chakra, because there's so much energy comes in through the crown with Kundalini activation. It's a descending energy.
00:39:13
Speaker
So very different from a Kundalini awakening. Sometimes people get those two things confused. An awakening is not something anyone, first of all, can guarantee. If someone tells you they can guarantee you a kindalini awakening, run away because they are lying.
00:39:25
Speaker
A kindalini awakening is something that is several generation takes several generations, several lifetimes. ah to you know it's it's it's ah It's a whole thing. And it ah it is a dormant energy at the base of your spine that goes upwards.
00:39:39
Speaker
and opens out through a kind of crown of light through your you know head. all So much goes into that. Again, it's a long process. And activation is almost like a massage in that direction. It's really helpful for people who are in the middle of a Kundalini awakening.
00:39:52
Speaker
Some of those symptoms can be kind of difficult, you know the waking up in the middle of the night, the shaking, some of the visions. And so having Kundalini activation can really soothe that process. It also can encourage that process to happen if it's kind of close to happening.
00:40:04
Speaker
It can kind of prepare your body for that. It kind of clears out the channels. And so it's a dec descending energy downward. That's what makes it safe. You don't ever want anyone to pop your Kundalini up out you. No, no, no.
00:40:16
Speaker
You want it, but going downward is really actually, it's going to just clear it's goingnna clear out stuff. So that's why in a Kundalini activation session, sometimes you will have emotional catharsis. You'll just, of a sudden you'll hit a pocket and you'll start crying.
00:40:29
Speaker
or shaking with fear or laughing hysterically, you won't know why. And I always tell clients, you don't need to know why. In fact, the story is usually your ego's, egoic mind's way of trying to gain and control the situation.
00:40:40
Speaker
You don't wanna be thinking like where it's coming from. You wanna just be present with whatever you're feeling fully and allow it to move. And in somatic therapy, you know I have a lot of this beautiful somatic background.
Understanding Trauma and Healing
00:40:51
Speaker
you know that That's just, again, the thwarted this thwarted instinct, these stuck cycles, these habituated patterns, these neurological pathways, right? Like we all have these ways of being where sometimes it's like emotions get caught in these loops.
00:41:02
Speaker
We get caught in these loops. That's why we keep creating these same relationship patterns and these same, wow, this always happens. It's It's you. You're creating because you want to finally address it. You want to finally slay the dragon. you want to finally feel the feelings that you maybe weren't able to safely feel back when it first happened. um Often in your developmental years in childhood is where a lot of these things stem from. Not always. Sometimes we have acute trauma that can can lodge.
00:41:28
Speaker
as well, but you want to get to a place where you're clearing out these older patterns because then if you can get to a place where when trauma comes in the body, because trauma is always going to come in, that's what is to be alive is to sometimes be overwhelmed.
00:41:40
Speaker
I like to think of trauma. There's a lot of different definitions for it, but I like to think of it. My favorite definition is from this wonderful sister named Kai Chang Tom, one of my, just someone I just look up to immeasurably.
00:41:51
Speaker
And she always says it's trauma is too much too soon or too little for too long. hey So it's it's kind of when your when your system is overloaded, you can't take in any new information. it kind of goes back to that parasympathetic.
00:42:05
Speaker
Can you integrate? Can you digest? can you If you can't integrate, then you can't take in in anything new. Anything that comes in new is just going to slide up, slide up. You know what i mean? It can't sink in. And so you that's why you get trapped. You get stuck because you don't know that you're safe anymore. And that's why in extreme cases of trauma, like CPTSD, which we most of us think trauma just is, post-traumatic stress disorder, that's a very extreme version of it.
00:42:29
Speaker
We all live with some type of trauma. um And, but yeah, that, those extreme cases, they literally can't stop. They still think they're in the war zone. They can't acknowledge the fact that they're no that they're now safe because they can't take in that new information because they're still grappling with what they couldn't grapple with in the moment.
00:42:46
Speaker
And so we want to eventually get to a place where the body can feel what it needs to feel to let that go. And you don't have to do it alone. can literally come and I can help you do it. I literally can, you know, literally I'm physically there to,
00:42:59
Speaker
touch your body in certain places. And it just so happens that people say, you know, you touch in this spot right before you touched it. I was feeling all this activity there. and then you touched exactly at that point. And like, you know, whatever's happening in the wou world, like, i don't, I don't know if I can define it. I don't know if anyone can.
00:43:15
Speaker
People certainly try, people write books on it and then they argue. And I'm just like, it's kind of just at a certain point, you just have to just, Look at what the benefit is that you're getting out of it, which is that you're unlocking things that sometimes take 20 years of therapy to find.
00:43:29
Speaker
Not saying that you don't need therapy. Absolutely. Please get therapy too. You want to come at it from as many angles as you can. That's right. But this is a very somatic process. Energy work is a somatic process where your body, is the intelligence of your body is healing stuff that your mind maybe can't even process or can't even remember.
00:43:48
Speaker
There's people who have come up and I've experienced this in cat boy. I didn't even remember the memories that were coming up. And I remember them now, like, i up but I had the suppressed memories can come up and they can be healed and transmitted and let go.
00:44:02
Speaker
And so many people say that they feel lighter after a session, physically lighter, like energetically, you're lighter. People look like, like age is lifted up. off of them Like, cause you're not carrying, you you have to realize when you're holding onto energy in the body, emotions in the body,
00:44:17
Speaker
It takes a certain amount of effort and stress to hold that. And so when you let that go, it's like you get to repurpose that energy. You get energy back that was wasted, kind of holding that together.
00:44:28
Speaker
Now you get that back. to That's why you can manifest. It's because all sudden you have energy to manifest in your life. You have energy to like call stuff in. You have like to do whatever you want with it. It's your energy.
00:44:40
Speaker
Why is it a slave slave to these old stories? Other people's shit. A lot of the stuff isn't even our stuff. You know, it's like inheritance. That's right. That's right. No, no, no, no. That's why you're here is to like drop these gems. No, I think that that's really, you know, we're talking about like holistic ways of approaching something. It's like you said, have your therapy, you know, do your journaling or whatever those things are. But also this is like, and I mean, it's called activation, kundalini activation, but to help like dislodge um that. And so,
00:45:16
Speaker
um One, when I come back to Costa Rica, I'm coming to do a session. and feel Because we did you did a little bit of breath work that i really appreciated at the Yamaya Day Festival gathering that was so lovely. We did flower crowns, breath work, an offering, you know, in the ocean, which was really special. But this is like definitely ah next level. Like this is, you know...
00:45:43
Speaker
um a powerful, it feels like almost like when you're talking about it, I'm like, it's like a cleanse or like a detox. It can be. starts, it turns into something else. The first step is like to clear you out.
00:45:55
Speaker
And once you're clear, once you've been coming for a while, or even some people right away, other stuff starts to happen. There's other whole chapters. That's just like the introduction chapters. Usually that it's just kind of getting rid of the gunk so that you can now really activate.
00:46:11
Speaker
Because part of activation is everything else. Like you can't really, you know it's like an old abandoned house. Like you have to get everything out of there that's no longer serving. if to lift up the rug. And and that's part. it's different, again, in each person because we're each arriving in different places.
00:46:25
Speaker
But the reason I did breath work at the Yemaya event and not this is because this...
Comparing Healing Modalities
00:46:30
Speaker
I don't know, it can take people in completely different places, right? Somebody can literally shed, like, I've seen people shed inner child trauma being sexually abused for a long time, you know what I mean?
00:46:42
Speaker
And they're sobbing hysterically for, you know what I mean, for it the better part of that that hour, for 30 minutes. Totally. like So it's like, it's it's not, it's more like, it needs to be treated more like a plant medicine ceremony. Like a lot of people sit after that and they're like, that was just like an ayahuasca experience. or That was just like when I did DMT or Bufo or fill in the blank. Because again, all those chemicals that exist in your brain when you're doing a lot of those plant medicines, a lot of the plant medicines ah either inhibit or increase certain you know chemicals in your brain that induce these states.
00:47:13
Speaker
Those chemicals exist regardless of those medicines. So when you're doing a Kundalini activation, that's what i'm saying. It's like a roulette of all human modalities because so much can happen.
00:47:23
Speaker
Even if you've never done those modalities before, if you've never heard of them before, I've had experience with modalities that I've never heard of. And then my my eyes were moving like in this really specific way, like for like, like literally like Tetris for like a lot, like uncomfortably a long amount of time. I was like, my my thinking mind came in and was like, Jamila, is this safe that you move in your eyes like this for this long? And I was like, I can tell that it's doing something to my brain. So I'm just going to let it. The energy wants to do that.
00:47:49
Speaker
I found out like a few days later, there's a whole EMDR therapy training. You know, there's a whole thing. People go and learn that modality. My brain, my body again was just doing things, but the breath work is like, it's like a cap light. It's like a light version of that. Okay.
00:48:03
Speaker
ah Even Reiki, lot of people call Kundalini activation Reiki times a thousand. I've heard people say that. So like Reiki is like a gentler, this gentler weighs in as Hakomi practice, which is a somatic practice that I feel like is capped light.
00:48:16
Speaker
was doing Hakomi, I was like, this is Kundalini energy. They just don't call it that. It be around. Kundalini energy is in a lot of things, okay? Even when you get good yoga class, you hit that moment and you stand up in a warrior two, you get that like body rush, you feel like your body and your mind kind of doing something different, swirly.
00:48:33
Speaker
that yeah So you're activating your Kundalini in a lot of different ways. It's just that usually it's for like a split second. The thing about Kundalini activation is you just laying there for an hour. You're giving yourself permission to go into that state for chunks of time.
00:48:45
Speaker
chunks of time. Wow. Yeah. It has a lasting effect, but yeah, you also, you have to really respect it and you have to give it like, um, that's why I train in somatics is basically to help people integrate these states afterwards, because I felt like my training and look it was too abrupt. They just gave us the ability to hold the field, but they didn't really explain the responsibility of activating people and then sending them out into the world. It's like, no, we have to make sure that they,
00:49:09
Speaker
You know, there's there's these things. And so I don't think somatics is a very beautiful job of safety and permission and, you know, just just getting consent all in every step and every way. It helps the nervous system relax so that you can integrate what's happening and you don't just re-traumatize someone, which is what can happen in implant medicine, energy work, all these other things. are' not regulated.
00:49:33
Speaker
So be careful. Be careful. Make sure your your people have gotten some outside training outside of them learning the the energy or the thing. Yes. Because integration is more important than what happens in the session, babe.
00:49:45
Speaker
Woo. Please listen. Yes. No, no, no. I have such a deep appreciation for you saying that because as plant medicine has become more popularized,
00:49:59
Speaker
I feel that not there's not as many people who are as a intentional as you are about making sure that people are prepared for after the
Importance of Authentic Practitioners
00:50:12
Speaker
medicine, right? And really making sure that you're holding space for people, grounding people. And also too, like, know your practitioner, right? Are they grounded? Who are these healers? Like, are they just like, cool, I'm gonna get this money and, you know whatever.
00:50:30
Speaker
You know, and also like, are they, you know, bringing their own trauma in the space? yeah You know, there's just so many different ways, but I really appreciate what you're just saying about like, how you take very seriously, not just, okay, we did this thing, but.
00:50:47
Speaker
afterwards, yeah how are folks being able to go back into their lives and like, and you know, especially after doing heavy yeah release work, you know, emotions come up afterwards, have you things that you might, you know, like tomorrow something might come up, you know, or whatever. That that can be a lot. Yeah. Right, right.
00:51:11
Speaker
ah you want to be careful i say the main thing i look for is authenticity is when i tell people to work with people work with people who have a degree and i don't say humble in the sense of like the way the word breaks down and its meaning but i mean in the sense of people that can admit like i don't know everything there is to know you definitely want to work with somebody who who comes from that point at view because if you work with somebody who's like oh i have the secret it It usually means that they're actually quite early on in their're awake they're in their awakening journey.
00:51:41
Speaker
There's this thing that happens early on where you are lost in the darkness and then something happens, either loss or something, you take some medicine or something, you have an experience and then you see the truth for a moment.
00:51:54
Speaker
And then you come back down into your lower consciousness and your 3D experience. And you may remember that truth. And it's actually quite a dangerous point because you it's very ah because it's a sophomoric point.
00:52:06
Speaker
Remember that word, sophomoric? Yes. Me too, SAT. Right, and they say, well, because sophomore, it's perfect. It's like, you're not a freshman. And you know everything, but you actually don't know. And if you look at the people that be telling everyone what to do are the sophomores. The seniors are out there in the courtyard getting hot. You know know what I mean?
00:52:25
Speaker
Like they don't, you know, the juniors are like, oh I got a lot of work to do before I got here. But the softness, they're like, oh, I know this girl. And that's exactly what have. Feeling myself. Yeah, they feel in themselves a little too much. There's people that have that glimpse and they do see it. They do see it for a moment. And they come back and they think, that's it.
00:52:40
Speaker
I'm enlightened now. And then they go, and it's actually quite dangerous because they are not. And then they're they're they're leading these ceremonies. They're leading these people. They do not have the spiritual fortitude to god to be protective in an energy in the space. Like, they do not have the thing.
00:52:56
Speaker
They're not aligned in the way. So it's actually, that's where that that's like, I feel like that's one of the most dangerous points is when someone has had that first big glimpse that they might, their ego might get a hole of it and get their teeth around it.
00:53:08
Speaker
And then they make it an egoic thing instead of actual the beauty of what it is. And if you keep going long enough, that ego will fall off and it has to, cause you'll get humble real quick. You get humbled a lot.
00:53:19
Speaker
You need to go through, you can work with someone who's been humbled a lot. It's not that they themselves are humbled, it's that they have hit their face in the mud about 15, 11 times. You know what mean? After they thought, oh, I got it now. Oh, I healed that.
00:53:33
Speaker
And then they hit the and they've done enough times that they know, even when they come up out the mud, they're like, only a matter time before I'm back down there again. Let's go. So right now, I got something to say, and it's it's if it helps you, it's great, but I don't need you.
00:53:45
Speaker
Also, if you work with people that need you to, like, believe in them and need you to do X, Y, and Z in order for them to, like, be okay with you, that's also a sign that it's egoic. And that they're still at this earlier stage and you just don't want to, the real people who have the real knowledge, they they know that it's not theirs.
00:54:03
Speaker
I know that this shit isn't mine. You know what I mean? I know that it's it's it's it's limited. It's my limited, i have a piece, I have a shard of a universal truth and you have it, you have another piece.
00:54:15
Speaker
And when we put our pieces together, it glows and something magical happens. And that's what it is. That's it. it's nothing It's nothing beyond that. And and and it's um you When you work with people who have that, that's where real growth happens. And when you work with the other people who are pretending to be a little bit more than they are, it's and it's going to either stall or it could actually be harmful.
00:54:37
Speaker
Yeah, that's really well said. That's really well said. So before we wrap up.
Training Programs and Representation
00:54:43
Speaker
I want you to share a little bit. You have something you're working on in Africa. Yes. That's all I know. I just know the little teaser. So I want to know the tea. Let our folks know what you're doing. So true to form. So I um i have launched um a training program in this work. So for Kudalini activation and in somatics, the integrative part of ah what I think is essential to leading this work and and being a leader in this work.
00:55:11
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And we did our our first inaugural session last year in Costa Rica. it was so beautiful. ah People came together from all over the globe and sat with this energy for six days and learned how to actually hold this field on their own for for themselves and also for the people in their life, for their clients and future students.
00:55:31
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And there's also a six-month container afterwards where we really learned the integrated processes ah for yourself and also for others. Again, we can really, we always have to start with ourselves because we really can't guide people beyond where we have gone.
00:55:43
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So, so much of this work is doing your own healing work and then realizing that you're planting flowers along the way. and you can say like, hey, this is work for me, you know, and that's really it. That's really all we're ever doing. And, but that is more, that is enough. That is what, that is what we are here to do.
00:55:59
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And it's very simple, very beautiful. And yes, we're offering two more trainings this year. ah One in May in Costa Rica, again in Puerto Viejo, where there's a beautiful portal. We call it Portal Viejo of healing sea waterfalls, the most beautiful nature.
00:56:15
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do a lot with ecotherapy too. That also comes back into my Yoruba roots. I use a lot of ecotherapy, a lot of Yamaya energy, a lot of ocean energy. We go to the waterfalls, we go to the river. We work with how to, because if you're going to work with energy, you need to learn how to work with nature to reset.
00:56:29
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Because if you're an energy worker, the only thing that can reset you after a burnout is nature. Like that's the best, fastest, most effective way. And even if you're not an energy worker, like it is a bar none. Hands down. It's real shit hits the fan.
00:56:41
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When I have a client that I feel like is out of my depth, I take them to Yamaya. I take them to those. We ask permission. We go in. we process. She does it. It's really just about knowing how to tap into resources that are already there. That's all really important.
00:56:56
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Energy working is doing. where You know what I mean? It's it's more like I do. we're not we're it's not We're not forcing anything. It is Aikido. We are guiding energy. um And so, yeah, we're doing that in May, May 12th through the 18th. Holla at me if you want to come. There's a few more spaces. And then we're also opened up one for Kenya, Mombasa, Kenya.
00:57:16
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um For June the 22nd through the 28th, we're going to be in the Mother Continent ah for the first time, at least in this written history of Kundalini activation, those particular words.
00:57:27
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No one has taught a public ah training session there yet, which is such a shame because obviously all this energy comes from Kemet, comes from Yoruba, comes from like... ancient civilizations in Africa and has been kind of adopted all over the world from there and call different names and call different things. And all each of them are beautiful and unique, but it's just a kind of a shame that it's not in the motherland.
00:57:50
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Like, why aren't we doing sessions there? Why is it so heavily in Europe and in the States and and kind of these westernized countries? And it's like, Well, let's bring it back to the motherland. I have no, I can only imagine how powerful the energy will be there and those lands, especially where we're going in Kenya, that it's so rooted again in nature and so beautiful, so much like wildlife. And um and yeah, and it's leaning very melanated it as well. A lot of people sign up are melanated.
00:58:16
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The facilitators are melanated. And that also, again, like I think there's five Kundalini activation facilitators that are black in the world, in the world, y'all. uh two of them are coming together for this um so it's like 50 percent almost 50 percent we want more people to come we want more people to be uh you know from the diaspora to come and to hold these fields of energy it's needed more than ever has nowhere to go but but up as far as um i think more more people are becoming sensitive to be able to even feel this energy i think the reason why we're just now hearing about these things now is that they because they've been going on forever not or Scion, the other kynalini activation I'm trained in, has been gone on again since before recorded time.
00:58:57
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It's just that like the average human being wasn't always able to hold a frequency in in modern society, in the society that we know. Again, I think ancient times we were all popping off and doing this stuff all the time. But back from where we know, um i think you had that's why you had to go to the mountaintop. You had to get away from other human beings to like meditate for 20 years in order to achieve these states. And thank God those people did that because now we're kind of standing on the shoulders of all of that.
00:59:22
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But notice now people are waking up at a rapid rate. People are much more sensitive to energy. People are hearing their guys, they're being led, that fill they're feeling their energy, which people are, whether they're meaning to or not, people are waking up. Yes.
00:59:36
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And it's scheduled to be more and more and more. We're going in that direction, the age of Aquarius, right? And so I feel like all those people need places to go to dump, offload all of the bullshit was and that is inside of us in order to be clear channels of that and not be weighed down by our trauma and our egos and all of that.
00:59:58
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And so we're going to need more and more facilitators. And i'm I'm not the only one that's been called in this last year to start doing our own training programs. um And again, I'm combining things that I think we're missing from the training programs that I have done in the past.
01:00:11
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Bringing in the somatic therapy, bringing in the Yoruba, West African traditional healing practices, bringing in the Nakari, bringing in, you know, I have Cherokee and a lot of Cherokee on my mom's side from Alabama and Georgia and like That's there too. You know, a lot of the, uh, eco therapy stuff that I do is stuff that was taught to me. Um, you know, and that is dying if we're not careful like that. lot of that wisdom is being almost, it it was intentionally attacked. Everyone thinks that the, you know, Salem witch trials and the whole witch hunt was about killing women.
01:00:41
Speaker
In part, but it was more about the pharmaceutical. It was the beginning of the pharmaceutical. Big pharma. Big pharma was start talk about that. They were like, we got to shut down all these healing bitches. Herbalists and none of this. I can't charge them $50 for this pill if they can go around the way and get 50 cent, you know.
01:00:57
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you Right. what that Plant something in their yard. Plant something in their yard just take some cotton tape. They want to control the the knowledge. So they killed the knowledge holder, the womb healers. And so when we try to realize that kind of the capitalistic structure, the structure of ah of ah our dissociation from our own inner wisdom, our own and inner healer, we can start to combat it. Not from a place of fighting the enemy, but rather just expanding our capacity to hold these spaces and to get...
01:01:26
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and to fight it by learning these and teaching others. So yeah, that's what we're doing. So I would, yeah, we're we're we're accepting applications, y'all.
Vision for Spiritual Healing Movement
01:01:34
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Listen, y'all better get in on this. um Wow. That is so exciting. i um you know, i hope you could see how I was just like, oh, wow. You know, yeah, it's so beautiful. Like I watched, I remember when we were living together, you were starting this journey. yeah So that's, it's really beautiful to have seen you grow in this process and really, you know,
01:02:01
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um Just own your build your expertise, but own it and and make it your own and also be a leader ah in this field, especially for melanated folks like that's such a powerful thing because it does matter in terms of feeling a level of accessibility. Like when you see a melon like, oh, wait.
01:02:23
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Black people do this? Or like, oh, okay, I can go to her. Cool, this is run by melanated people. You feel a different level of safety or that ability to let go. And so I'm just really excited. I'm going to make sure to share the links of how people can, you know, ah sign up.
01:02:40
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So how can people find you on the interwebs? On interwebs on'm the internerwes now, you can always go to at jimmylacreates for Instagram. It's the only one I really have time to Mess with right now. um And, you know, that's a great place to connect with me. There's also our website, energyalchemy.info or jamilacreates.com and click energy alchemy.
01:03:04
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you can go into and into all of that wonderful world. But yeah, we really... um To your point, like a lot of those spaces are not safe for people of color. Ironically, comes from our lineages. They've mined, it's like a neoco a neocolonization happening where they're mining the wisdom from, you know, these beautiful ancient indigenous and aboriginal practices and then pricing us out of them, pricing their descendants out. Right.
01:03:28
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And it's so weird to me. So I made sure that we had accessibility as far as payment plans for ours. i cause Because the training I did, I know so many people took out loans to get to that 10K so that they could come do the training.
01:03:42
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And we made ours cheaper. We made our 7K. There's a discount right now for, I think, ah like less than $6,000 right now. It's at five, five, five, five. five So like we we really strive and then we do the payment plans intentionally so that people don't have to go get out alone.
01:03:58
Speaker
They want to learn this. We also teach you how to run a self, you know, a spiritual business so that you can earn that money back. I earned my investment back. ah which which was more than, it was $10,000 in the first year, ah less than the first year of doing the business. So it's like, I also give structure to that.
01:04:13
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So you're not just left out on the street, trying to figure out how to talk about what this is, how to share it, the benefits, the value. You can stand on the shoulders of those again who've gone before because we're really trying to start a movement here, y'all. Like the movement has already started. it is happening.
01:04:26
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And it's like, we can either give people a safe place to go or they'll have to scrounge around and find somebody else that may or may not be abusive or may or may not be abusive. You know, all kinds of people having sex me with me and all this stuff. And I was like, what? Lord Jesus, we got to get in here and have some, we got
Conclusion and Gratitude
01:04:41
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to get in here. So people have a safe place to go to learn because I can't tell you how many people have been like, I've come to, I came to you because you are a black woman and because I knew I would be safe with you.
01:04:52
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um And that just makes, that warms my heart. And i I, that is why I do what I do. That's why I'm here. That's why you're here too. see you. i see you in all your glory, my love. Ashe, thank you. i mean, um this was such a blessing. I'm really excited for what you're doing. I'm grateful for what you're doing. The world needs you. And, um you know, for for a lot of healing, things are hard right now across the globe.
01:05:19
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And so this is such a powerful offering and gift and blessing and space that you're in the space that you're creating um for us to heal people to heal as individuals and to be able to bring that to their community. So I'm so grateful.
01:05:36
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I'm so grateful. Thank you for being here on ah Spirit in the Material World. This was such a delight. I'm going to go practice, try to remember some of the breathwork you taught us. I have that video. I'm going to send you the video. I have that video. Was it the color box one that I did?
01:05:56
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did I do the the one where you put the thoughts into the the bowl? No. Maybe. I'm thinking about, i'm trying to remember the breathing because what I remember from the breathing was like, I felt like heady and it was like, we had to breathe fast. And I was like, am I doing this? Like at first I was in my head, like, am I doing it right? i do it And I was just like, just do it. You know what I mean? Like get out of the thinking brain. body know Oh, that's so beautiful. Yeah, I'll make sure you get that.
01:06:23
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i have ah i have a lot of links to free breath work and free meditations. So yeah, definitely check out those things. And I'm sending all the left. I will share that with the community. And thank you again for being here. this was Spirit in the Material World.
01:06:38
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And we will talk to you next time. In the meantime, take good care of yourselves and each other. Peace. peace