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Episode 6 - Sharp Dressed Man with Jen Nave
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This week we are joined by our first female guest Jen Nave. We discuss life as a new parent, all things Valentine's Day, and Jen's time in Scotland. This week we have a tough draft trying to narrow down the sexiest looks of Jen's husband and original podcast guest Jacob Nave.
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Introduction with Jennifer Nave
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Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight Gonna grab some afternoon delight My motto's always been, when it's right, it's right while waiting
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Good afternoon, Delights. I'm your host, Matt Latimer, and it's a good day to have a good day. I'm just here trying to bring you a smile on this Wednesday, but I couldn't do that alone.
Jennifer's Nomadic Childhood
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So I brought on a very special guest, the wife of the first ever co-host of Afternoon Delights, Mrs. Jennifer Nave. How are you doing tonight, Jen?
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I'm good. I'm good. I'm excited to be here. A little baffled why you invited me of all people on a podcast. We're positive vibes, but we'll model through. Jen, you're the most positive person I know. You act like you got a morbid outlook on life, but you live life to the fullest. Okay. Sure I do.
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All right, Jen, now a lot of our listeners, you know, they, they maybe haven't met you. You didn't show up to the league gala for the CKL pod, but we forgive you for that. We'll see you next year for sure. So why don't you tell our listeners out there a little bit about yourself?
From 'Weird Kid' to Art Student
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How did, how'd you grow up?
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Oh, see, you want a positive podcast, so I feel like I should steer away from most of that. I can start a little bit with where I was born, kind of how I grew up, where I grew up. Was born in Nashville, Tennessee. Haven't been back there in adulthood. I think I was three when we moved away, so I really don't remember it. Did a little bit of timing.
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Texas was all over East Tennessee at different points in my life. Did a little time in New Jersey and back to East Tennessee. Ended up in South Carolina for middle school, high school. That's where I went to college. I was not a military brat. My family was just crazy. You know, sometimes people move around a lot. I'm sure that you get to see a lot of interesting stuff. You know, you got to experience a little bit of this country. From your kind of memory, what was your favorite area that you grew up in?
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I don't remember a ton of it. We lived in a very rural part of New Jersey. I remember just loving to run around the woods as a bit of a little crazy child. East Tennessee is kind of where we always ended up. It's where my mom was born and raised, where my grandparents
Choosing University of South Carolina
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were, so that always felt like home.
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South Carolina is where we live the longest, so by default, that felt the most like home. I think I got heat stroke the very first summer we lived there, because if you haven't been to South Carolina, it is like an armpit. It's the armpit of the South. It's like living in a swamp, so it's not fun. But once you adjust, it's beautiful. Oh, yeah. Everybody loves living in the muggy, muggy swamps. Now, Jen, when you were growing up, what were some of your hobbies, or if you were in elementary school, kind of that high
Meeting Jacob Nave
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school area, what clique would you have been in?
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I was a weird kid. I was a weird kid.
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Um, I don't know. So Jacob and I are very different in this way. He grew up in the same place, has the same friends throughout life. I don't think he's ever met a stranger. I don't think he's ever lost a friend because we move so much. I could reinvent myself, leave friends in the dust. You know, like when you're little, you don't keep up with people anyway. And I was probably a little bit later to the social media game. If you don't know me, I'm not big into social media. I like to kind
Motherhood with Baby Willa
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of
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Stay quiet stay to myself so what groups would I be with I don't know I went through different phases always a bit of a nerd kinda like the smart kid in class who's kind of annoying no one really wanted to be friends with because they were annoying. Do you play Dungeons and Dragons and wear a cape.
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Oh, not mat level, nerdy. The bookish type, like the weird kids, like always playing some kind of an imaginative game, not really doing sports. But then later in elementary school, I actually did play soccer. So for a little while there, I was a jock before really finding my niche as like one of the weird art kids in middle school and high school.
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Matt, I don't even know if you know this about me. If you did, it's okay if you forgot. My junior and senior years of high school, I went to a boarding school for arts and humanities, so that was fun. I don't think that I did know that. What was that like? Did you have to apply? Crazy. Everyone there was weird. Yeah, I did have to apply.
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So you got in based off of skill. What was your like art that got you in? So I went there for visual arts. They had music, visual arts, drama, creative writing, and dance. Not going to do any of that performative crap. No, thank you. Visual arts like painting and that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, the stuff you see with your eyes, you know, visual. So I had to take a portfolio of work, a sketchbook, had to do some drawing in front of people. It was pretty stressful. I'm very glad I got in because I did not want to stay
Therapist as Gardener
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in my small-town high school. I was ready to move on.
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coming from a family where we moved a lot. I was kind of feeling stuck, feeling ready to move on after being with the same people for about four years. So it was good. Nice. I mean, that's pretty impressive, honestly, that you had this skill to be able to get into an art school just based off of your portfolio. I mean, that's pretty impressive. That's nothing to slouch about. What was the name of the school? South Carolina Governor's School for the Arts and Humanities. It is a mouthful. That is a long name. It was a long name.
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So I mean, when you come out of this school, you obviously you still do normal classes and everything like that on top of the art. So is South Carolina college where you went, are they big in the art or did you just want to stay close to home? And that's the best kind of state school in the area.
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How dare you call it South Carolina College and not USC, the real USC, not that bullshit school in Southern California. No one calls Southern California SC, right? When you think of SC, you think, okay, that's South Carolina. I will preach from my soapbox on this forever. I went to the University of South Carolina.
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People have very strong opinions in the state of South Carolina about whether it's the best school in the state. There's obviously a big rivalry between South Carolina and Clemson. Clemson is a garbage school with garbage people. I would not go there if you paid me, and they did try to pay me, but like a lot of money. You couldn't pay me enough money to go to Clemson.
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No, I chose to stay in South Carolina. Honestly, they gave me a lot of money. It was close to home. My dad had just passed away my senior year of college, so I wanted to stick around for my mom. Most of freshman year I was traveling back home on the weekend, so it was good to be that close.
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Sorry to hear about your dad, obviously. Everything does happen for a reason where maybe that wouldn't have led you to a path to go to USC, where you got to meet
Origins of Valentine's Day
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Mr. Jacob Nave, and then that led you to be a guest on this podcast because Jacob was my best friend. You are right. It seems like everything in my life has led to this moment, Matt. We all knew it was coming.
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This is it. I don't know if I'm going to make it after this. Life has no meaning. Well, life has a little bit of meaning, but we'll get to that later. I told you I'm not the person you want on a positive vibes. Jen, you're bringing the vibes. You're bringing the laughter. Laughter's like wildfire. It spreads. Yeah, you can laugh at me. It's okay, everybody. Laugh with, not at people.
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So when you were at USC, around what time did you meet Jacob? You know, it's so funny that we're doing this podcast in February because I met him in February. I was a junior. He was a senior. An anniversary. Seven years ago almost that we met. So you were a junior. He was a senior. So this was like the tail end of college. Did you meet in a class? You have a club together? No.
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No. So he was an ambassador. I don't know how many people listening know Jacob, but I feel like you can't meet Jacob without knowing he was a university ambassador. He talked about it on his episode of the podcast. Of course he did. Of course he did. That's so Jacob.
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Anyways, he was an ambassador and my roommate was an ambassador, so I went with my roommate to a different ambassador's birthday party, so Jacob was there. Honestly, the most attractive thing about Jacob when I first saw him was how sober
Meaning of Valentine's Day
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he was, because that was a ride to downtown after the party.
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No, it's an embarrassing story. I really don't like reflecting on it because I was so drunk. I don't actually remember meeting Jacob the first night or like I was vaguely aware that one of Krista, my roommates, one of her friends took us downtown, but I was very drunk. I got myself kicked out of a bar and I threw up on the sidewalk and that was Jacob's first impression of me. Hey, he knows how to pick him.
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You know, he didn't actually want anything to do with me. The second time I met him was a few weeks later. I thought he had a crush on my roommate and I was trying to work some magic there. And she just looked at me and was like, do you not remember meeting him? You are all over him. Apparently I tried to make out with him in this bar before I got kicked out. I was like, oh, really? Yeah. So you didn't succeed. He shot down your advances.
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Oh yeah, which is the gentlemanly thing to do. It is. Jacob is a true gentleman. We'll give props to him on that. He is. He's a good one. Well, so, you know, obviously that then led to you two getting married. In order to start a family, you had to come back up here and live next to Uncle Matt, and then he gave you precious little baby Willa. He did give me precious little baby Willa.
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I want to say one more thing, though, just because I know he's going to listen to this. This boy played more games than he would ever admit. He likes to think of himself as such a nice guy, right? I mentioned it was near the end of his senior year. I think it was literally the day before he was set to move to Charlotte that he asked me to be his girlfriend. If it wasn't actually that day, it felt like it, because he left it until the very last minute to let me know where we stood before he moved.
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Geez, Jacob. I know. I just want
Jacob Nave's Style Draft
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everyone to know that. Jacob is not one. No, he's not one to poop again off the clock. No, definitely not. He's a slow pooper. That is, yes. Anyone who knows Jacob knows that he takes forever to make up his mind. He is a planner and likes to account. That's just because he likes to be sure. Yes, he does. And he knew, he took his time and then he knew, you know, now you're here and you're married to him. Yeah, and you're right. I do have my sweet little baby Willa, so it was all worth it.
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For those of you that don't know, most of our league knows Jacob sent some pictures. Baby Willa is one of the cutest, most chunkiest babies on planet earth. She's got little cannoli rolls all over her body. Jacob was telling us she's 27th percentile in height for her age group and 90th percentile in weight.
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So that was, those were old numbers. Those were her four month numbers. I've got some updated six month numbers for you. It's actually kind of sad. She dropped to the 75th percentile for weight. And I was so disappointed. Like she's still chunky and rolly, but I just, I love her role so much. They're so squishable. It looks like she's got little rubber bands just all over her. Like she looks like a little Michelin man. So to hear that she had dropped and she could have been chunky or I was a little disappointed.
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I was going to use that same analogy and I thought you'd get mad at me if I called her the Michelin Man, but I also think that she looks like the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters. Yeah, that's accurate. That's fair too. And for height, this one will really crap you up, Matt. So you know that Jacob and I are both short people. She has dropped to the 10th percentile for height. Nice. So she is a short and very chunky baby.
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So at this pace, Will is going to reach her max height at about 11 months old. She's never going to get any bigger. Probably. It's fine. She'll have a promising career as a jockey.
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little baby was so kitty. Here's some good news for you that Brianna always tells me is that if if you have more baby fat and you get store fat in your face, the more fat that you have in your face, the better that you age. So you get older, you'll look younger versus people that don't have any fat in their faces. People age more poorly. Is that something that she just tells you to make you feel better, Matt? No, she learned that from her dermatologist. I believe it. I believe it. Yeah, she's got real round cheeks. So Willow will be beautiful and young forever.
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All right, Jen, now for you, what are some
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of the most rewarding parts of being a mother?
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Every time she smiles, every time she giggles, those are the best things in the world. But really just like watching her meet past all of her milestones, every new thing that she learned, it's so exciting. I love my nieces and my nephew. I do, but I never understood what was so interesting about them. Like before we come in a mom, I thought, what do parents do all day? You just watch your kids sit there and do nothing. Totally different experience having one of your own. They're the most interesting little person in the whole world.
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And everything they do, like right now she's all about her toes, recently discovered them, grabs them all the time. It's precious. That's one of the best things about being a mom. Nice. And for you, I mean, what are some of the more difficult situations of having a newborn or things that you or Jacob weren't really prepared for?
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So this is why I say I'm not the person you want on a Positive Fives podcast. Let me just prep you. So very quickly, I was overcome with guilt because I brought her into this world. She didn't choose to be alive, right? So anything that she experiences in the world that's negative, like suffering, disappointment, heartbreak, all of that feels like my responsibility. That's a lot of responsibility. It's a lot, right? That part's hard. That's a heavy weight on your shoulders there.
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It is. More realistically, like more day to day that other people could probably relate to. Just like changing your routine. It's not even so much losing sleep, but like trying to find a new balance for how you spend your time. Carving out me time for both of us has been difficult with the baby. Yeah, I could definitely see that. So Brianna, before I came down here, said that she needs to see you soon and baby Willa. She really just wants to see baby Willa. That's fair. She needs some baby time. So if you're ever coming up and you need a babysitter, all right, Brianna is probably not going to say no.
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My fear is that I won't get my baby back. I'll come to pick her up and Brianna and Will are just going to be gone. That's always a possibility, but I've run that risk with Albus and Luna for two years now, and she still comes home every day. Yeah, that's a really good point, Matt. I can understand liking you because you have Albus and you guys got Luna together, but the fact that she hasn't just taken them and run yet, that's pretty interesting. I wonder if there's something wrong with her. She's the same. Having to deal with me.
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Yes, it's a tough life that she has to live for Brianna moment of silence for Brianna
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All right, Jen, now for the people out there and you say that you're not positive, but you're a therapist. You help people heal their trauma and you bring them from the dark and into the light. Your entire profession is all about good vibes and all about what afternoon delights is about. So why don't you kind of tell the people about your work and kind of how you treat people or, you know, if they're interested in getting treatment, how they can reach out or how you can be their therapist.
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Oh, so disclaimer, if you know, Jacob, like pretty well, like if you're in the league, probably couldn't be a therapist would be a conflict of interest.
Travel Plans to Scotland
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But we have a lot of great clinicians at the practice. I work for it's modern therapy. They have an office right there in Powell, right up the road from you, Matt, and another office in Upper Arlington, I believe on Riverside. I'm still learning the regions of Columbus. That sounds right.
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I love being a therapist. It's fun for me. I don't make a lot of money. It's not rewarding financially, but it's very rewarding knowing that you can help people. I like to compare my work to a gardener. Plants have been thriving for ages without human intervention. I think we've all had that moment of just walking down the sidewalk and a dandelion is growing through one of the cracks and you're like, how the heck did this little plant
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of all the places it could have chosen to grow, like how did it grow here in the sidewalk? I can't get plants to live in my garden, right? Like, they're resilient. They don't need human intervention. But if you have a skilled gardener to water it, to nourish it, to cover it, you know, when it's gonna be really cold and frost to give it the right fertilizer, you can help it flourish. So I really view myself in that way. People don't need me. People don't need a therapist to do well and to be successful. But it's okay to have a little bit of support.
00:16:19
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Yeah, I agree. I think what you're doing to help people is a very noble cause. And for the people that do need it, and maybe you just need it for a couple of weeks, maybe you need it for a couple of months, maybe you need it for a couple of years. But if you're one of those people out there, you feel like you need it, reach out, be sure to ask for help, and be sure to keep listening to the afternoon delights, because some people say that that's best therapy.
00:16:36
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All right, it is tough getting started, especially like if you have insurance and you're trying to navigate insurance and find someone who's covered, it's a daunting process. But you get started, you realize it's not as bad as you think it is. And if you find someone who's a good fit for you, they they make it so easy, so comfortable, and it is all worth it. That's some great advice, Jen, proud of you.
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Thanks. That means a lot, Nat. All right, Jen. Now, your episode, it's gonna come out on Valentine's Day, on Wednesday. This is a big episode. It's a lot of pressure. All about love. So are you ready for this week's afternoon delights place at the table? I am. Can't wait to hear it. Since it is gonna come out on Valentine's Day, let's learn a little bit about Valentine's Day. Maybe why we celebrate it, a little bit of the facts. So the true reason why
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we celebrate Valentine's Day is kind of shrouded in mystery. You know, there's actually three different people that are recognized by the Catholic Church as St. Valentine and all of them were martyrs. I'd say the most popular of the tales is that there was the priest named Valentine and during the reign of Roman Emperor Claudius II, he believed that single men were better soldiers than married men because they could stay focused on war and not have to worry about their family and loved ones back home.
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So he outlawed marriage for younger men in Rome till you got to a certain age and that age was well past when people would typically get married. Well, Valentine thought that this was an outrageous decree. So he continued to marry young soldiers in secret to their loves and defiance of the new law. But when Valentine was discovered by the emperor, he was prosecuted and sentenced to death.
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Now the second most celebrated of these stories is that Valentine was also a priest or just a Christian man and he helped other Christians escape Roman prisons when they were being beaten and tortured. Now while he was trying to help some people escape he was captured and he was imprisoned himself and he fell in love with the jailer's daughter who would come and visit Valentine in his cell. Before his death it said that he wrote the very first Valentine a letter to his love which he signed from my Valentine.
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How about that, Jen? Which of those stories do you like the most? Which one piques your interest? The first one is the one that I have heard before. I haven't actually heard that second one, but it is funny to me that the emperor banned outlawed marriage because he thought that these husbands, these dads, would go to war and keep thinking about their wives and children because it just seems like that is the opposite of my experience. Jacob gets out of the house and he's like, who? He really enjoys getting away.
00:19:03
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I think any dad with a newborn can relate to that. I think that's getting away for a couple hours and getting away for months at a time. It's two different things, but you have to remember Jacob isn't excited that he's getting away from you. He's excited that he's getting to hang out with me. Yeah. Okay.
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But you know, Valentine's Day, it has spread across other cultures, multiple religions, continents. It's really kind of transcended. It's not really a religious holiday anymore. Right. All about making a buck. Exactly. Well, you know, so some people, they think that Valentine's Day is on February 14th to mark when St. Valentine was killed. Okay.
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But they also think that it became popular as a way that Christians used to Christianize pagans by coinciding with a pagan festival called Lupercalia. Okay. So Lupercalia was a festival celebrating the fertility, new birth in spring, and it was dedicated to the Roman god of agricultural fontus, and it was celebrated in the Ides of February, which was February 15th. Now in the Middle Ages, in France and England, it was commonly believed that bird mating season began on February
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14, adding an increase in the belief that Valentine's Day was a romantic holiday. So then it kind of transitioned a day back to the 14th and poet Jeffrey Chauncer, he was the first to record Valentine's Day as a romantic celebration in 1375. He wrote a poem called Parliament of Fowls and he wrote, for this was sent on St. Valentine's Day when every foul cometh their choose to his mate.
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Okay, so we celebrate Valentine's Day, maybe because there was a dude a long time ago, but mostly because birds are hooking up. Yeah, because birds are hooking up. And because, you know, way back when the Christians really, really wanted everybody to be Christian. What do you mean way back when?
00:20:54
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like five, six hundred years ago. No, I mean like that is our present. Yeah. That's true. But even to a much, much, much greater extent than today. But it kept going on. A couple other poems were written. The oldest Valentine still in existence today was a poem written in 1415 by Charles, the Duke of Orleans.
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to his wife while he was imprisoned in the Tower of London, following his capture at the Battle of Agincourt. So, people go to war and they remember their loves, Jen. This man wrote the oldest Valentine ever. So Jacob can step his game up. Yeah, you know, he could. He definitely needs to. He better be doing something special for you on Valentine's Day. You know, I don't know. I will get anything special, you would think, because it's our first Valentine's Day as parents. Maybe we would mark the occasion. We might go to dinner or something, but I don't know. It's never really been our holiday.
00:21:43
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I don't know, he better do at least something. At least something. Valentine's Day kind of started to be what we know it today in the middle of the 18th century. It was common for friends and lovers of all social classes to exchange small tokens of affection and handwritten notes. And by the 1900s printed cards began to replace written letters due to improvements in printing technology.
00:22:06
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Um, Americans began exchanging handwritten Valentines. They think in the early 1700s and in the 1840s, Esther A. Hallen began selling the first mass-produced Valentines in America. And today, according to Hallmark, there's an estimated 145 million Valentine's Day cards sent each year. And Valentine's Day is the second largest card selling holiday of the year. The only one that sells more is Christmas. That tracks. What do you think, Jen?
00:22:31
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I think I like history. I think it's fun to learn the theories about why a holiday came about and how it has transformed over the centuries. But since this is a positive vibes podcast, I do just like the idea of a day that we all come together and agree to celebrate love. And it doesn't even have to be romantic love, you know, love of our friends, love of our families, love of our kids and our pets.
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It's just a nice day to remember to appreciate the people who are closest to you, and it adds a little bright spot to February, which even though it's the shortest month, always seems to drag on forever, especially here in Ohio. You know what, Jan? I couldn't agree with you more, you put it perfectly. Do you have any other tidbits, any place at the table information that you want to drop for our guest today, or would you like to get into the meat of this draft?
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It's not like a fact that anyone will do anything with. It's just a little tidbit about me personally. See, I really shine after Valentine's Day as we move into St. Patrick's Day because my secret talent is finding four leaf clovers. Like so many four leaf clovers that Jacob has stopped being impressed and he says, what do you want me to do with this yard garbage? I don't want it. That's my secret little talent. That is the only thing that I'm really good at is finding four leaf clovers. And if anyone ever needs one, I'll hook you up.
00:23:47
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Jen, I'll always take a four leaf clover. I think that's impressive. I've never found a four leaf clover in my life. So the fact that you keep finding it, they're obviously working because you're just getting lucky and lucky. It's renewing your luck. But I don't know what, I don't know what, like where, where's the luck? Just finding more clovers, I guess. You know, it's in the little everyday things that you don't notice. That's nice. I like that. I'll choose to see it that way. I'll take one every time. Me and you can go get matching four leaf clover tenders.
00:24:14
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That would be more fitting for Ireland if you were going there, but you're going to Scotland. That's true. I am going to Scotland. All right, Jen. Now, with this podcast being about Valentine's Day, being about you and Jacob's love, being about love in general, there's really only one thing that we could draft, and it might not be interesting to people that don't know them, to nobody that's seen a picture of them, but we're doing it anyway because it's what you wanted, and we are going to draft Jacob Nave's Sexiest Outfits.
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All right, Jen, I asked and you wanted to go first. So take it off the board. What is Jacob Nave's number one most sexiest outfit? Number one overall pick goes to nothing at all. Matt, that's disturbing. It's on my list. Okay.
00:25:07
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Why is nothing at all his sexiest outfit? Because he's vulnerable and vulnerability is sexy. Okay. Nothing about his muscles or his chiseled body. He's fuzzy. Just his vulnerability? I do like that he's fuzzy. All right. I wrote down, I had the same one and I couldn't come up with extras, so I'm just going to share what I wrote when I was going to pick his birthday suit.
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it was when is Jacob is sexiest? How about when he's wearing nothing? Statue of David, please step aside because Michelangelo has a new model and this one is hot to try. The way that you said it was so much better. Okay, well, I'm up then. Yep. It's my turn to pick. And for my sexiest outfit since you took birthday suit, okay, I'm taking what I have dubbed as the Fiji bro. Oh, God, please describe it.
00:25:54
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This is Jacob's classic Southern frat boy look that he would wear in college to places. He's dressed in his little khakis, especially when they're like an odd colored khaki, like a pink one. It's not a flannel, but it's like that light checkered button down. It's not like a full dress, but like a dress shirt, and then they got the puffy vest on. Oh, God, yes. You know the frat boy look. Oh, yeah. What type of shoes?
00:26:18
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He's got boat shoes on. Oh, okay. Yep. For sure. He's got to have the boat shoes. And when I see it, my brain only thinks one thing. This boy is H A W T heart. What? Now when he's wearing it, I'm looking at him and I'm like, this is a man that knows about stocks. He knows about bonds, knows about 401ks, and he's going to make it so that we can retire early. You can call me a gold digger, but I don't care. I'm going with the Fiji, bro.
00:26:41
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Okay. That wasn't on my list, but I think I actually agree with you, Matt, because when you start talking about stocks and bonds and the 401k, I remember, hot damn, Jacob's first job out of college, right? We were freshly boyfriend and girlfriend. He started telling me about his 401k, and I was, I was like, hot damn, that is a stable, mature man right there. Exactly. That's what it's all about. Especially, you don't have to worry that your job maybe doesn't pay you as much as it should. Because you got Jacob. Oh, yeah, he's my sugar daddy. And he's HAWT hot.
00:27:12
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What?
00:27:30
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pants and then when he steps into the tee box and he's getting ready to bomb a drive down the fairway he bends over to tee up his ball and I always catch myself looking and I say damn I did not realize that Jacob was a Kardashian because he is packing mad junk in that trunk all about the long pants golf look for Mr. Jacob Nave.
00:27:54
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I'm weak. All right, Jen, it is time for your second pick. Okay. Okay. You didn't take my second pick. You did touch on some things that were on my list though. This isn't a full outfit because honestly, it's an accessory and it can go on any outfit. For me, it's gotta be, and if you know Jacob, you don't see him in this look very often, right? He's gotta be in a mood. It's gotta be the backwards ball cap. Add that on top of any outfit.
00:28:22
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That is a hot look. Jacob is a straight-laced guy. Jacob wears his hats the way God intended, right? Straight. Never cop to the side. He doesn't wear them backwards. Jacob loves his caps. He has like 30 in our closet. It's a bit ridiculous, but he wears them all, so I can't gripe too much. But God, something about when he turns it backwards, you're like, who is this? And I do think part of it is so sexy because I'm like, this is a completely different person. This isn't my husband, who I've been with for seven years, and that's what.
00:28:48
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That is hot. Now I agree. You want him to get up there and you want him to do the over the top, the Sylvester Stallone movie. And Sylvester Stallone, he's got his cap on forward. And then when he really gets into having to turn it on and win his arm wrestling contest, he turns his hat around and then he goes over the top. And that's what you want. You want to see Jacob out there sweating, dripping in the heat and he's mowing the grass and all of a sudden, boom, that hat flips around. Oh yeah. And you're just staring out the window doing dishes and like a movie. Yeah. He means business when he turns that cat backwards.
00:29:17
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He does. All right. Give me number three. Okay. This one, it's akin to the Fiji boy, but we're going to go like Fiji boy winter version. I love me like a nice quarter zip over a button down. Like he's got this like a dark olive green.
00:29:35
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And then if he puts that over like a checkered, like I said, that long sleeve button down type of shirt that it kind of coordinates, but it's not too matchy matchy. His eyes pop. He looks like I might go chop some wood or I could go handle your stocks and bonds if you know what I mean. I don't think I know what you mean, but somebody out there does.
00:29:54
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Jacob does. All right, Jen. Here's my third pick in this draft. I'm taking Jacob when he's dressed to the nines. Okay. People think that Jacob was only in my wedding party because he was like one of my best friends. That's not it. Okay. Any excuse to get Jacob dressed in a suit is a must, must, must. Okay. Jacob's never met a suit that has wore him. Hugo Boss be damned. Jacob don't dress to the nines. He dresses to the tens.
00:30:22
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Damn it. Yeah, you're right. That was on my list. Good pick, good pick.
00:30:25
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Something about it, man, has sued, they come down, they fit well, they're tight in the places that need to be tight, but they don't suffocate. Let me, okay, wait a second. When you talk about tight, but not too tight, I gotta interrupt this draft for a real quick story. It was a high school friend's wedding. I don't believe you were there, Matt. I think different circles. Jacob, he wasn't in it. We were a guest there. Jacob's pants were a little too tight, and he danced a little too hard, and he split the crotch of his pants.
00:30:53
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The really embarrassing part of this, it was a heavily Catholic wedding, so a lot of conservative older people there. No family restroom at the venue, strictly females, strictly males. I got a safety pen from one of the bridesmaids and we had to try and find a place where I could clip his fly back together because it was gaping, it was open.
00:31:14
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So I was bending down, trying to pin his crotch back together and this old woman, like at the end of this walkway, her hand over her eyes goes, is it safe to pass? I was like, dear God, this is not what it looks like. I'm his wife, like we don't do that kind of crap anymore. It was so embarrassing. Oh, Jacob. Look, I'm not the only one that thinks that Jacob looks good dressed to the nines, okay? Because I'm pretty sure that he's been a groomsman in like 18 weddings. It's too many. I told you he's never met a stranger.
00:31:44
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I know he hasn't and I think it's people see the pictures of him. They're like, I mean, this is a guy I put him in my wedding party and people are going to be stunned.
00:31:53
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just helps the groom look taller. So he's an ego booster right there. You know what that might have something to do with it, but I'm going with because he's dressed to the 10th. All right. Now my fourth pick, I'm a Jersey Chaser. I love them athletes. And Jacob, he looks damn good in a football jersey, a showstopper if I have ever seen one. And I'm not the only one that thinks so. Okay. The boys in high school were fighting each other to have Jacob wear their jersey to the Friday night games. And let me tell you, honey, you were lucky if he picked you.
00:32:21
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That one's actually not on my list. Good pick. You don't have the football jersey on your list? I think I'm just so sick of sports at this point. I mean, the man's got like six football jerseys. He's got a couple hockey jerseys. He's got to have an basketball one in there somewhere. Yes, he does. A few soccer, basketball. Yeah, there's a whole section of our closet dedicated to his jerseys. It's a classic look for him. It is. Is it my go again? It is your turn. Give me your fourth pick.
00:32:46
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Okay, um you took a few so I've got to do some shuffling here I'm gonna go again. I've kind of picked accessories over full on outfits. I'm gonna call it dad mode Jacob He can be wearing anything, but if he's got that baby carrier on and he's got will a strap to his chest. That's it
00:33:03
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Daddy. That's a double daddy right there. It's a double daddy. Does he have the little papoose? Oh, yes, he does. He wears the front one or is he a back carrier? She has only been in the front. I don't know if we can do the back with the one that we have, but she hasn't graduated to the back anyway yet.
00:33:20
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Gotta be a little bit older to do the back carry. Yeah. I get it. But I mean, he said, I get it. He's sitting there at the little front Papoose. He's got the backwards hat on, sunglasses, and he's got a big beard grown out and he's riding up an elevator with his two best friends after they just lost their fourth one. I mean, he's basically Zach Galifianakis in the hangover.
00:33:39
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I was wondering where you were going with that. Yeah, basically. All right, Jen, give me your last pick. Oh, oh, OK. It's going to be it's going to be a toss up here. Where do I go with this? I'm going to mix them. I'm going to melt them all into one. I'm just going to call it Sporty Jacob. I'm all with you like the golf pants. They hug his little butt. He's got a little bubble butt. Love that. I also like him.
00:34:03
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golf shorts he's got like skinny little legs but they're cute like you show me a little ankle ankle like over your golf shoes or your tennis shoes i'm into it i'm into it and the top right like it can be an athletic golf shirt tucked into a fun belt or it can be like one of those long sleeve athletic tops just give me sport mode jacob that's a good pick we're right there me and you we're simpatico
00:34:29
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Jacob has good, like, strong, classic looks. It doesn't surprise me that we have a lot of overlap. Yeah. Now, I only came up with five. I was hoping you didn't take any, but you did. So for my last pick, I'm going to go off the cuff here. Now, some people are going to say maybe this was only in my dreams or that I made it up.
00:34:46
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But my favorite look is when he's in a bathing suit, but not any bathing suit. Okay. I like him when he's in his speedo, right? He's tight up front and he's got like the mankini and he's got the G string going right up his crack, sand pouring out of it on the beach, running up and down, catching footballs, riding the waves, belly boarding. That's a hot man right there. You can have that one. He's hot. That one's all for you, Matt. That one for sure happened. I don't need anything to do with that one.
00:35:11
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it has for sure happened i'm not making it up okay that sounds like a great fantasy football punishment whoever the loser is you gotta get him in a speedo you gotta get pictures on a public beach
00:35:21
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Maybe next time somebody loses twice in a row, that's what we'll do. Yeah, that'd be good. That's a good draft, Jen. How do you feel about your picks? They were solid. They were solid. I'm a little sad that I didn't get the nice suit, you know, dressed to the tins on my list. That was one of my top five contenders. But overall, I feel like I got a good assortment of Jacobs. I'm glad you get to enjoy looking at them every day. So you know them better than anybody else, except for me, of course. I was going to say, I think you actually might know them better. I know them longer.
00:35:50
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Uh, all right, Jen. Now we're coming in here to the end. We got afternoon delights book club. I know that you're a big reader. Why don't you, we've only had male guests so far. You're the first female guest on afternoon delights. How about that? I love breaking glass ceilings. Let's go.
00:36:06
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I love it too. We're trying to grow our listeners. We really want this to be open to all genders. So why don't you drop us a book that maybe some of our female listeners are going to like as opposed to all these male fantasy heroes fighting stuff. What are you reading lately? I've got the perfect one.
00:36:22
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I'm currently reading a novel, but the last book that I finished recently, it is nonfiction by an author named Jessica Gross, I believe is how you pronounce her last name. It is called Screaming on the Inside, The Unsustainability of American Motherhood. How about that for a book for your female listeners? It was so validating as a new mom, really talks, I mean, I can't put it any better than the author did herself, really talks about the unsustainability of being a mom in America.
00:36:51
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It's definitely hard, especially as stuff gets more expensive. You need two incomes coming in. If you really want to support and be able to, you know, give things to your kids, pay for their college, pay for their wedding, do all those kinds of things. It's a lot harder on one income and especially nowadays with social media and everything, people, people fake making it. Oh yeah. They shoot 15 videos in one day and then they post one a day and they make it seem like they did everything perfect for two weeks, but they just put it together for one day and then the next two weeks it all falls apart. So.
00:37:18
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Yeah, it does have a great section in the book about social media, the impacts of that on our expectations of ourselves, you know, comparing ourselves to what we think other moms are doing, thinking we're the only ones that don't have it all together. It was a great read. Like I said, very validating.
00:37:34
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of my experience but I think it would be very validating to a lot of different mom's experiences. Just speaking to how difficult it is, you know, you can't always have it all together. A lot of cultural and societal expectations about doing it all and not letting anything slip through the cracks. So it was a great read and just because it's about motherhood doesn't mean that you dads out there and male partners who might want to be dads one day couldn't get a lot out of it too.
00:38:01
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That's true. I'm going to have to put it on the list, Jen. Yep, you got to. I'll read it before Brianna. I'm going to be the mom. I believe that. You're the baker, right? No, I'm the cook. She bakes. Okay, she does bake. I just remember meeting you for the first time. That was pre-Brianna. Jacob set me up with this expectation that you're like classic American mom. He said, just expect Matt to have a pie ready. You didn't have a pie ready, but it was fine. I'm not a baker, but I probably did have food. I always have food now.
00:38:29
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I am basically a mom. Mama Matt. So we'll see. I'm going to try and do my best whenever we have kids. Try and not ruin them. You will, in your own special way. That's normal. That's true. I mean, Jen, we got a little bit extra time here. We hit on that I'm traveling to Scotland. You also went to Scotland. You did a study abroad there. I did. It was a May semester, so it was only a few weeks. Not a full semester, but I would have been kicked out of the country.
00:38:52
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Tell us a little bit about that. Where did you stay in Scotland for your school? What kind of places did you travel? We were mostly in Edinburgh. We started there, ended there. We did a little trip to the west side. We went to this little town called Oban. They have
00:39:09
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a distillery of the same name. Oh my god. Like wrote a boat through the ocean. It was wild. A lot of people got sick. I was like living my best life on this little tiny boat. And we went to this deserted island that was just covered in the puffins. So you just sit on this hill and you let these little puffins just like start coming up to you. They don't get too close. Like it's not like you hold them or anything. You don't want to disturb them. But it was magical. This isn't all about the puffins. This is about Scotland.
00:39:36
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So also hop on a train on one of my three days and went to Glasgow. They have a really great art scene. So I went to a lot of museums and galleries there. It was beautiful. People say it's rainy. And while I think it did rain every day, it wasn't constantly rainy. It wasn't like winter here in Ohio where the sky is just gray and feels like it's 10 feet above you. It would sprinkle. It's a floor to rain. Yeah, it would sprinkle, but then you would have sun the same day too.
00:40:03
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So it was very mild weather-wise. Let's see. It was beautiful. Yeah, we're doing Edinburgh. We fly into Edinburgh. We're not going to make it. We are going to make it to the west coast, but the way north part of the west coast, up in the isle of the sky. And we are also, we're doing a boat tour, a smaller one that goes. So we will be going a little bit on the ocean, and then it brings us back into a lake cove in the Scottish Highlands.
00:40:31
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That's going to be magical. Do you get to see any puffins? I don't think that we go to an island with any puffins, but the boat ride over is supposed to be like through a school of porpoise. Ooh, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm hoping that we get to see those on the trip and then we're doing Edinburgh and then we're going to Inverness up north for a couple of days. Going to see Loch Ness and then we go over to all this guy for three days.
00:40:53
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Don't get it. We're going to come back down. We're going to do a train ride, but it's just a day ride. But it's the Jacobite train, which is the train from the Harry Potter movies. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. So we're going to ride the train from the Harry Potter movies and we're going to come around, you know, the second movie, the aqueduct, but they come around when they're flying the car. Yeah. That's the path that we're going on.
00:41:12
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That's awesome. I failed to mention the Harry Potter stuff I did when I was there, though I didn't get to ride the Hogwarts Express. I did go to the cafe where she wrote a lot of it, and I did the fun little guided tour that took you through the cemetery where she got a lot of her name, so that was pretty cool. Okay, yeah, we think we got some Harry Potter. I think we got like a two and a half Harry Potter.
00:41:32
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How are Harry Potter tour where they're supposed to take us on stuff like that? We're doing like a chocolate tasting then we're touring a castle then we're gonna hit up Victorian Street Mm-hmm, which is supposed to look like Diagon Alley. Yeah, that's like the inspiration for it I guess they also say that there's like a spot in in furnace That's also the inspiration that looks like the same thing But there's like two or three different inspirations for Diagon Alley
00:41:54
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It doesn't matter where you go, you're going to love it. I was a degenerate there, so you'll probably remember more of it than I remember of it. I was 20, I think. Maybe I was 21. But either way, there were some underage people there who would have, I guess, underage in America, so we were all degenerates there because the legal drinking age is a little lower.
00:42:15
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That makes sense. Makes sense. I think everybody did the same thing. What was like, do you remember any of the names of the pubs or any places in Canberra when you were over there? No. Of course not. It was really fun. There were maybe 15, 20 of us on this trip though, myself and three others. We found like a stupidly cheap bar crawl, like stupidly cheap. And we were like, no one is stopping us. We have our own keys to our room in the hotel. Like we can do this.
00:42:47
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It was wild. Probably the funniest thing was running into other people from the College of Charleston. We were like, you're from South Carolina? We're from South Carolina. It was such a small world.
00:42:57
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I think we're doing a whiskey tour. We're doing two or three whiskey tours. Nice, yeah. And then we'll probably do one pub jump. I tried to leave all of our evenings open, like be done, have like dinner be our last planned activity. So then at like seven o'clock, if we're really tired, we can go back and rest or we can do some other stuff. So we're going to try and find like the heart soccer game if they happen to be playing a game when we're in Edinburgh or if there's like a rugby match and try and go something like that. Oh, that'd be so fun.
00:43:23
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So if that works out, schedule wise, I gotta guess probably like look into what they haven't like released the schedule yet, right? Cause like their soccer season ends in April. The way that they schedule is like off from us. So like they, I don't think they released the last time I looked, they hadn't released the game dates for May. Gotcha. I'll double check it.
00:43:39
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That'll be something exciting, though. You know, it doesn't all have to be planned. Leave some flexibility in your schedule to see how you feel and you might discover something new that you want to do. Exactly. All right, Jen. I mean, it was a great time. You were a fantastic guest. You were upbeat the whole time. You were laughing. You're exactly what afternoon delights needed.
00:43:57
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Thank you, thank you. It was great to be on. I feel really honored that I'm the first female guest. Smash the patriarchy, all that good stuff. Thank you again for joining us, Jen, and thank you out there to everybody listening. I'm your host, Matt Lattimer, just reminding you to keep on smiling. So long, farewell, I'll be your same goodnight. I hate to go and live this pretty side.
00:44:29
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So long, farewell, I'll be to St. Andrew. I do, I do, to you and you and you.