
In the first Oscar conversation leading up to the 2023 Academy Awards, Jordan and Niv critique the authoritative genre of the season: the meta-film. First, they discuss how each actor performed in the Steven Spielberg autofiction blockbuster, ‘The Fabelmens,’ before moving onto why these films may fail to make their mark (06:43). From there, they continue with a spoiler-ific dissection of Damen Chazelle’s ‘Babylon.’ (33:50)