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S3 Ep6: Interview with Janine Infante Bosco!
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Heather, Veronica and Janine discuss all things books in this amazing interview! Janine talks about her recent event she hosted and planned, what it's like planning an event, and what advice she would give to those who also are planning one. She talks about her books, her time with 1852 Media, parenting and more! Sit, relax and get ready to laugh with us!
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts and Guests
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Heather Roberts
Hi, I'm Heather Roberts and welcome back to For Book's Sake.
Friday Recording Chaos and Humor
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Heather Roberts
Veronica Adams is also here with us as well as Janine Infanti Bosco, which I probably messed up that pronunciation and we'll fix it here in a second.
Episode's Casual Approach
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Janine Bosco
You
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Heather Roberts
Guys, I cannot even tell you, this has been the hot mess express of a Friday recording session, but we're all here and we're all going to have a good time But yeah, so we, there's no rules
Pronunciation of Janine's Name
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Heather Roberts
today. we are all casual. We are, but we are flying by the seat of our pants.
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Heather Roberts
I mean, yeah, it's been wild.
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Veronica Adams
We're just going to have a good time.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have
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Veronica Adams
pressure.
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Janine Bosco
I don't follow rules very well, so this works for me.
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Veronica Adams
I know. am very familiar with
Mispronunciations Anecdotes
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Veronica Adams
that.
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Janine Bosco
Yes, I torture of Veronica's life on a daily basis. like
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Veronica Adams
i love it. Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
ah Who says that now?
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Heather Roberts
ah Janine, tell me how to pronounce your name correctly because I literally don't know. Infante.
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Janine Bosco
Infante.
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Heather Roberts
I was close, but not right. Okay.
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Veronica Adams
Yep.
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Janine Bosco
Yes.
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Heather Roberts
Infante.
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Janine Bosco
I mean, it's it's better than I've gotten.
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Veronica Adams
That first A is very short in Italian.
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Heather Roberts
Okay.
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Janine Bosco
I get really, really tired. Oh, it's very hard. Some of the things I've been called in school. What's my name?
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Heather Roberts
Infante.
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Janine Bosco
first name? People can't get right. They call me Jeannie. i
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Veronica Adams
What?
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Janine Bosco
Jeannie.
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Heather Roberts
but not That's not even close.
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Janine Bosco
How am I Jeannie?
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Veronica Adams
Who looks at that and says
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Janine Bosco
Not even close. Not even close. my friend My son's best friend's father? Jeannie, how are you? Like, I just answer at this point.
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Janine Bosco
Oh,
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Heather Roberts
yeah Well, yeah. Yeah. So, well, at least, okay.
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Janine Bosco
my God.
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Heather Roberts
So I wasn't totally off,
Long-term Collaboration with 1852 Media
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Heather Roberts
but.
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Veronica Adams
Well, we dream of Jeannie and she's here, so.
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Janine Bosco
No, you're better than most.
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Janine Bosco
I was looking for a lamp, but I don't have one.
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Veronica Adams
Oh, no.
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Heather Roberts
home
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Janine Bosco
I have a mallet!
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Veronica Adams
We need to get you a hot astronaut.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah, that's right. But yeah, so Veronica, why don't you tell us about Jeannie? Janine.
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Veronica Adams
Yes, we dream. Yeah, Jeannie of whom we dream.
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Heather Roberts
Yes.
Janine's Writing Career and Genres
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Veronica Adams
um Janine has been an 1852 media client for longer than I can count on one hand, I think.
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Heather Roberts
That's right.
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Veronica Adams
Right? She's been around, what? We've been working together a really long time.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
um
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Janine Bosco
I don't like change. You're stuck with me.
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Veronica Adams
Well, we love the privilege of getting to work with and support you, of course. Janine is a USA Today bestselling romance author of Mafia, Motorcycles, Small Town...
'Tempted and Tantalizing' Event
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Janine Bosco
little of everything.
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Veronica Adams
legal and oh gosh have I covered it all um first responder romances like I think that hits most of the nails on the head what she's best known for probably is her Satan's Nights series uh mean premier motorcycle club of New York
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Heather Roberts
yeah
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Janine Bosco
Yeah. Blue collar.
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Janine Bosco
And now North Carolina.
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Veronica Adams
yes which we're gonna get into yeah
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Heather Roberts
I just saw that. know
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Janine Bosco
Did you see those pictures?
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Heather Roberts
i did. Okay, so let's catch everyone up. And one other thing that Janine does is she also runs a book signing event.
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Veronica Adams
Yes, she is the fabulous hostess with the mostess for tempted and tantalizing.
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Heather Roberts
Yes. I mean, supposed to split motions for tension and tantalizing. Yes. And you just had that in North Carolina. And one of the things that she did was literally recreated the Satan's Knights clubhouse, it looked like, from the pictures, right?
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Janine Bosco
Two weeks ago.
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Heather Roberts
Like, am I crazy? Okay.
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Janine Bosco
So I've been doing that since 2018. When
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Heather Roberts
Okay.
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Janine Bosco
um when when the event was first in New York, I had um a friend of mine opened up a bar and it was that first, after the first year I called her and I was like, listen, tell me if I'm crazy or not, but like, can use your bar and like recreate my motorcycle club?
Event Logistics and Challenges
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Janine Bosco
They were completely on board. Whatever I wanted to do, they had no problem. So that's how it originated. i wrote the bar, Big Nose Cates, into my New York books.
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Janine Bosco
I blew up their old clubhouse and made the bar their new clubhouse.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
And I got them vests and we did the whole nine yards, got buses. And then I decided that I wasn't gonna do it in New York anymore.
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Janine Bosco
That it just, New York had run its course. It was very good to me, but nobody wants to come to New York. so funny
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
And the people that do come to like the signings in the tri-state area, they never came to TNT. They would go to the big signings in Manhattan and...
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Janine Bosco
They would travel to you know Philadelphia and and Boston, but they would never actually just go over the Verrazano Bridge to Staten Island. What we got were people coming from all over the country and even the world.
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Janine Bosco
People would come from Australia, from Canada, but like the locals in New York, they're not paying the money for the bridge.
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Heather Roberts
yeah
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Heather Roberts
But they'll come down to North Carolina.
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Veronica Adams
The forgotten.
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Janine Bosco
coming to North Carolina. It's crazy.
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Veronica Adams
The forgotten burrow.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
ink It really is the Forgotten Borough.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah. yeah
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Janine Bosco
so when i cheat So when I decided that I was going to move it to North Carolina, it was also because my i started a new charter of the Satan's Knights.
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Veronica Adams
Yes.
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Janine Bosco
And I said, well, how am I going to bring them here? well Why are they coming here every year? you know, let's move things around.
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Heather Roberts
All right.
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Janine Bosco
And it was a lot different
Event Success and Reflections
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Heather Roberts
right.
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Janine Bosco
than I thought it was going to be.
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Janine Bosco
It was also much more difficult I, you know, having the bar, i didn't have to find food. The bar took care of the food. They took care of the alcohol. Literally, all I had to do was hire the buses and show up.
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Veronica Adams
Right.
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Janine Bosco
Right.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Heather Roberts
i
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Janine Bosco
So now I'm like, all right, we're going to move this to North Carolina. And the bar, Maggie, she said, we're coming with you. I thought she was fucking crazy, but I was oh, okay.
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Janine Bosco
Yeah. Yeah. And she did. Like, she helped me find the venue, which we said, well, we want to keep it close to the look and feel of Big Nose Kate. So we started looking for a barn.
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Veronica Adams
yeah
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Heather Roberts
and Okay, yeah.
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Janine Bosco
And the barns aren't like the barns you have. Because you're doing goats and stuff.
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Heather Roberts
Right.
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Janine Bosco
These are like these chandeliers and stuff.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah, yeah.
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Janine Bosco
Right?
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Veronica Adams
Really fancy event venues.
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Janine Bosco
Yes, wedding venues.
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Heather Roberts
Right.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
But here we are, the bikers, the fake bikers, rolling on in.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
With your ride or die bartender and bar, like your barmaid, I mean, Mag's like,
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
Yes. She's, she helped me.
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Veronica Adams
just like your unofficial old lady. Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
She is. She helped me ah secure the venue.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
And then like, I found all the other things, but like, it was hell.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
There are so many different laws and liquor laws and licenses.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah. Uh huh.
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Heather Roberts
Oh, yeah.
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Janine Bosco
And I'm like, what the, I to get a deputy. had to get a deputy to stand guard outside.
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Heather Roberts
Oh, my God.
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Janine Bosco
Yeah, I'm not used to that shit at all.
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Veronica Adams
You're not in Staten Island anymore.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Heather Roberts
yeah
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Janine Bosco
No, definitely, definitely not.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
So I wrote this new barn into the new series and we found, i don't know, my friend Jackie went on like the, you know, parenting pages of North Carolina and found a baby photographer to help us out.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
yeah
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Heather Roberts
Okay.
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Janine Bosco
She does phenomenal. And yesterday she sent me like candid photos Throughout the night. And it didn't hit me, like really, like while I was there or even when I came home.
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Janine Bosco
At one point I did turn to my best friend while we were like running around. I'm like, don't want to jinx myself, but I'm bored. Like there's no chaos.
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Heather Roberts
yeah
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Janine Bosco
I don't know how to function without chaos.
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Veronica Adams
Well, and if we know anything about you, it's that without the chaos, how ah do you even get out of bed if there's nothing like disastrous happening?
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Janine Bosco
Things were just.
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Janine Bosco
I don't know how.
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Heather Roberts
Who are you?
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Janine Bosco
No, what's the point?
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
If I'm not putting out a fire, I'm useless.
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Veronica Adams
sleep She thrives. She thrives on it. There's got to be at least five fires that she needs to extinguish at any one time.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
Yes. like And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck to do with myself.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
Right? So everything goes off.
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Heather Roberts
yeah
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Janine Bosco
the The events goes off. And then she sends me these pictures. And I remember last year, after event was over, I got on the bus and I just burst into tears.
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Janine Bosco
And I texted my mother.
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Veronica Adams
Wow.
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Janine Bosco
And I says, I did it.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
Because I really didn't think I was going to pull it off.
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Veronica Adams
Right.
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Janine Bosco
There was a lot of...
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Veronica Adams
Last year was, like, let's preface that with last year was the first year in North Carolina.
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Heather Roberts
Right.
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Veronica Adams
That was the year you moved to the event.
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Janine Bosco
Yes.
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Heather Roberts
Right.
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Veronica Adams
So, yeah, huge.
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Janine Bosco
Yes. So now, I didn't even know what the venue looked like until Wednesday.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
Right.
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Janine Bosco
the event was on The main event was Saturday.
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Heather Roberts
Oh my God.
00:09:00
Janine Bosco
I was in an Airbnb with my mother, my best friend, her mother, and our four children. 10 minutes into the stay, the family vacation, my two sons broke the wall.
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Heather Roberts
oh my god
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Janine Bosco
They threw each other into the wall.
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Heather Roberts
Oh my God.
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Veronica Adams
Oh, gosh.
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Janine Bosco
Okay? So so look when I tell you there was like a lot of things going on behind the scenes, basically my whole life was imploding.
00:09:24
Heather Roberts
see that, that was your chaos. That was the chaos you needed.
CAPO Partnership and Fundraising
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Veronica Adams
Yes.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Veronica Adams
Yes.
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Janine Bosco
Yes. So that it was one thing after another.
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Heather Roberts
and
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Janine Bosco
um even leading up to it. So now I get on the bus and i'm like, holy fuck, we did it. Like we really did it. You know, tomorrow I knew it was going to be a piece of cake because, you know, that part I was familiar with. I know how to run the signing.
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Janine Bosco
I know what needs to be done.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
I know how to help the authors and all of that. But this with the sheriff, the deputy, the buses, the people, that was wild. wild
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
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Janine Bosco
So then this year there was none of that We were like fucking smooth sailing, right? Just, we had fun, we enjoyed ourselves.
00:10:04
Heather Roberts
That's awesome though.
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Janine Bosco
And then it wasn't until yesterday when I saw those pictures that it really like hit me and i started to cry again because it's like seeing a real play out in my head and those pictures.
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Janine Bosco
It's like, I had this this idea, everybody said I was a nut job. We pulled it off. I says, let's make it bigger. let's say Let's put a little bit more pressure and let's move it to another state.
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Janine Bosco
And we still did it. And it's still, we raised $6,000 that weekend for Capo.
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Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:10:42
Veronica Adams
amazing
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Heather Roberts
That's amazing.
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Janine Bosco
That is the most we've ever raised. And I've been doing this since 2017.
00:10:48
Veronica Adams
Really quickly, Janine, tell the listeners about the philanthropy, about Cabo.
00:10:51
Heather Roberts
Yes.
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Janine Bosco
Okay. So, Capo is an a biker organization out here locally um that supports children that are facing all types of abusive situations and also deals primarily with supporting the children and families that are battling cancer, childhood cancer.
00:10:56
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:11:13
Heather Roberts
yeah
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Janine Bosco
So, I first linked up with them at like a carnival, they had a booth and they were explaining their mission.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:11:22
Janine Bosco
And back then they were part of a different organization. One that had, you know, was more into the abuse aspect and like they wanted to branch out.
00:11:29
Heather Roberts
okay
00:11:32
Janine Bosco
They wanted to not only help the children, but like the mothers that were in that situation as well.
00:11:36
Veronica Adams
yeah yeah
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Janine Bosco
And then they wanted to help children in the community that, I mean, it's like an epidemic like this. There were so many, you just hear about all of a sudden children getting diagnosed. And they branched out. They started their own 501C.
00:11:52
Janine Bosco
And I followed them.
00:11:53
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:11:53
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:11:53
Veronica Adams
Nice.
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Janine Bosco
they Every year that they've come to New York, say road them they led the motorcycles, the buses. They would leave it to they would lead them to Big Nose Cates. And they would come on Saturday to the main events.
00:12:07
Janine Bosco
And they would... introduced themselves to the readers and the authors and they would tell them about their mission. Sometimes they brought, you know, children that they helped up on the stage with them.
00:12:19
Janine Bosco
And again, when I told them I'm moving to North Carolina with the events, not that I'm actually moving, but the event is relocating.
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Heather Roberts
and
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Janine Bosco
They said, we're coming.
00:12:29
Heather Roberts
That's amazing.
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Janine Bosco
And it is amazing because, you know, the people that, Helped me put this event on every year. They didn't come. These people came.
00:12:41
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:12:42
Janine Bosco
And to me, that speaks volumes.
00:12:42
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:12:45
Janine Bosco
So, yeah.
00:12:45
Veronica Adams
a real commitment to the partnership that you've built with them.
00:12:48
Janine Bosco
Yeah.
00:12:49
Veronica Adams
That's huge.
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Janine Bosco
And they also opened up a charter of their own. So CAPO stands for Child's Abuse Prevention Org.
Identity and Mix-ups of the Event
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Janine Bosco
And now there's New York chapter and a North Carolina chapter.
00:12:57
Heather Roberts
Okay.
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Veronica Adams
Yeah. Inspired by TNT and the Satan's Knights North Carolina series and all of your hard work moving the event.
00:13:03
Heather Roberts
Love that.
00:13:04
Janine Bosco
Yes.
00:13:07
Janine Bosco
Yes. Yeah, that is closer.
00:13:09
Heather Roberts
That's so amazing.
00:13:11
Heather Roberts
Yeah. That's a fantastic compliment.
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Veronica Adams
I love that.
00:13:13
Janine Bosco
They actually gave me that last year. it as a i don't know if you guys can see it. It's a certificate of appreciation and it's a little mini vest.
00:13:18
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:13:18
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:13:22
Janine Bosco
And I'll tell you a fun fact.
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Veronica Adams
Oh.
00:13:22
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:13:24
Janine Bosco
There's patches on the little vest that say TNT book club.
00:13:28
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:13:28
Janine Bosco
For the longest time, Billy, who is the president of the club, he would call it TNT Book Club.
00:13:28
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:13:28
Veronica Adams
Oh.
00:13:34
Janine Bosco
I'm like, it's TNT author event. What are you doing? We're not a book club. There's no sign of Oprah here. It's just an event.
00:13:43
Veronica Adams
yeah It is a badass book club. You just get to read whatever you want.
00:13:47
Heather Roberts
yeah
Janine's Publishing Journey
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Janine Bosco
Every year though, every single year, he gets on that microphone. He's like, and Janine from TNT book club and all you people. And I'm like, I'm not even going to correct him anymore.
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Veronica Adams
No.
00:14:00
Janine Bosco
So I made shirts and I have patches.
00:14:00
Heather Roberts
Oh my God.
00:14:02
Janine Bosco
And now we're a book club.
00:14:03
Veronica Adams
Perfect. I love it.
00:14:04
Heather Roberts
Now you're book club.
00:14:06
Janine Bosco
Now we're a book club.
00:14:06
Heather Roberts
not powerful Oh my God. Well, when did you, ah sorry, go ahead.
00:14:09
Veronica Adams
That's fantastic. Go ahead, Heather. No, no, no, no. Go, Heather.
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Janine Bosco
She was just praising me.
00:14:13
Heather Roberts
i Yeah. I was going to ask, when did you, when was your first book published? When did you first publish?
00:14:20
Janine Bosco
Oh, come on now, you should know that answer. We celebrated my 10 year publishing anniversary last year.
00:14:22
Heather Roberts
i
00:14:24
Heather Roberts
I know I'm leading you into the question, Janine.
00:14:28
Janine Bosco
and There's no leads into this day. Everyone um should know. 2014, I published my book.
00:14:36
Heather Roberts
2014. Yeah.
00:14:37
Janine Bosco
Yeah. The only reason why i remember that its because it was also the year my so my youngest son was born. Otherwise I would have forgotten.
00:14:43
Heather Roberts
Oh, yeah.
00:14:44
Veronica Adams
big year in your life.
00:14:46
Janine Bosco
Oh yeah. yeah
00:14:47
Heather Roberts
Yeah. That's wild.
00:14:49
Janine Bosco
hu
00:14:51
Heather Roberts
Well, obviously you write a lot of motorcycle romance, but which would be your favorite trope to write? Our favorite genre, sorry, subgenre and then favorite trope.
00:15:01
Janine Bosco
Well, I love the motorcycle romance. So I would say that, isn't that the genre?
00:15:06
Heather Roberts
Yeah, that's a genre.
00:15:08
Janine Bosco
That's the genre.
00:15:08
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:15:08
Janine Bosco
I mean, I used to like writing Mafia. i don't anymore because I think it's too... um The mafia I know and the mafia that people read about, they're really different, you know?
00:15:21
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:15:21
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:15:22
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:15:22
Janine Bosco
And
00:15:22
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:15:24
Janine Bosco
I think that people generate more towards the one that you know was nice in the books and stuff.
00:15:29
Heather Roberts
Mm-hmm.
00:15:30
Janine Bosco
And I don't like writing about that. Like to me, that's fake. like And that's always been the situation with me.
00:15:34
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:15:35
Janine Bosco
Like I've always wanted to give you a realistic, that's always been like my tagline, to give a realistic interpretation of real life things that affect everyday people and you know fluff it up with some romance.
00:15:44
Veronica Adams
yeah
Advocacy through Characters
00:15:48
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:15:48
Janine Bosco
But um I would definitely say that MC romance is like, you know, my sweet spot, which is crazy because I didn't even know how it worked. Nothing about it. Nothing, nothing. Fucking thing.
00:16:00
Heather Roberts
Now you know everything.
00:16:02
Janine Bosco
I'm learning. I'm still learning. There's a lot of things.
00:16:03
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:04
Janine Bosco
you know I focused primarily, like when I first wrote my first MC romance, which was Uncontrollable Temptations, I was very scared of getting the culture and the politics of it all really down pat.
00:16:18
Janine Bosco
Like I didn't even watch Sons of Anarchy back then.
00:16:19
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:16:20
Janine Bosco
I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
00:16:21
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:16:22
Janine Bosco
So I made it more on i on the characters. So like I said, he has to have something wrong with him and we have to focus everything about the book on this, right?
00:16:33
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:16:33
Janine Bosco
So I did, i gave I made him bipolar and that became such, i don't even know the right word to to describe what snowballed from that because I am a very big advocate for mental health.
00:16:37
Heather Roberts
Mm-hmm.
00:16:48
Janine Bosco
Like I am, I believe that
00:16:49
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:16:51
Janine Bosco
Everyone should have awareness of it. And writing him, i still get messages, and it's a long time now, that they've read his book or then they went and read his daughter's book and they feel seen.
00:17:06
Heather Roberts
That's awesome.
00:17:07
Janine Bosco
Yeah. yeah So when you like, so that, that was my out, but it it was also like, you know, to get away from the motorcycle romance, but it also gave me like my, gave my writing purpose for a long time because he is in every single book that I have.
00:17:17
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:20
Janine Bosco
And it's always a mention of what he went through.
00:17:23
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:17:23
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:24
Janine Bosco
So I do like certain tropes. I, um I love an age gap.
00:17:30
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:31
Janine Bosco
And I also am at the age now where i don't like writing younger people. i've I've always enjoyed the mature couple, always.
00:17:40
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:43
Janine Bosco
most the fit Most of my favorite books that I've written, the couples are in their forties.
00:17:48
Veronica Adams
Nice.
00:17:49
Heather Roberts
Sure.
00:17:49
Janine Bosco
um I just, I don't relate anymore. i We're not gonna wait three days for a date, like to call or whatever, or however many days.
00:17:52
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:17:52
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:55
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:17:57
Veronica Adams
we're not We're not playing rules. We're not swiping left and right. Like, we're just not.
00:17:59
Janine Bosco
No, I don't know how any of that works anymore.
00:18:02
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:18:02
Janine Bosco
Like let's no more nonsense.
00:18:02
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:06
Janine Bosco
So I really do enjoy even like reading.
00:18:06
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:18:09
Janine Bosco
i enjoy reading a mature couple. I don't want the games. I don't want to write the games. i don't want to read about them. I got my own fucking problems.
00:18:16
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:18:17
Janine Bosco
So I've been there.
00:18:17
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:18:18
Heather Roberts
Well, and those are the problems you could put in books because they're more relatable for
00:18:21
Janine Bosco
ah tell
Personal Experiences in Writing
00:18:22
Janine Bosco
worry They're all in there.
00:18:22
Heather Roberts
older.
00:18:22
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:18:23
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:18:23
Janine Bosco
they're in yeah
00:18:23
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:18:24
Janine Bosco
I've aired all my dirty laundry in every series.
00:18:31
Veronica Adams
Well, that actually is a great segue to another question. So um of of the books you've written, which one has the most Janine in it? Like, which which one is a mirror of your life most closely?
00:18:45
Heather Roberts
most autobiographical
00:18:46
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:18:48
Janine Bosco
Well, I think there's a little bit of every stage of whatever book I'm currently writing, there is some sort of my current situation reflected in those.
00:18:53
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:18:56
Veronica Adams
ah A piece of you makes it into every story you write.
00:18:58
Janine Bosco
Yes. Like, you know, anything.
00:18:59
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:19:00
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:19:00
Janine Bosco
It could be my kids, you know, locks me out of the house.
00:19:01
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:19:02
Janine Bosco
And now you're locked. Now the character's locked out of that. Like it finds your way. The chaos that's real life always finds its way into the book.
00:19:08
Veronica Adams
Art. Art imitating life.
00:19:11
Janine Bosco
But yes, a lot of it, a lot.
00:19:12
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:19:12
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:19:14
Janine Bosco
But from the ruins, um, is the most raw version of myself depicted in that book because I had separated from my husband and I didn't tell anybody.
00:19:29
Janine Bosco
didn't make some grand announcements like, okay, public service announcement, I'm no longer a living here.
00:19:31
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:19:33
Heather Roberts
conscious uncoupling.
00:19:33
Janine Bosco
Yeah, wait, wait, no, just just because you people really care.
00:19:35
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:19:38
Janine Bosco
so let me tell all the readers that, you know, I also thought about, but I also felt like I was a fraud. like coming from a broken marriage, writing about love.
00:19:44
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah. Right.
00:19:48
Janine Bosco
that was also a reason why I didn't, you know, open up about any of that.
00:19:48
Heather Roberts
Mm-hmm.
00:19:54
Janine Bosco
And then I said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to write it. I'm going to, and it was, with it was healing because I gave every part of me into Layla. I put everything, everything I was feeling, the things that I was going through,
00:20:09
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:20:09
Janine Bosco
So, and I preface that. I write a note in the beginning of the book saying to the reader, like, this is me telling you my story now.
00:20:18
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:20:18
Janine Bosco
It's not just about Pipe and it's not just about Layla. It's me finding a way so untie the baggage that's, you know, chained to my back. So.
00:20:28
Veronica Adams
Usually you're taking the reader to church, but this time you took him to therapy.
00:20:28
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:20:31
Janine Bosco
Yes. Yes.
00:20:32
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:20:32
Janine Bosco
Oh, I like that. Oh, maybe that's a new promo for the book.
00:20:36
Heather Roberts
I was going to say, this is how you keep Veronica around.
00:20:36
Janine Bosco
We can't.
00:20:38
Veronica Adams
that's That's why you keep me on the payroll. Yep.
00:20:40
Heather Roberts
Yeah, it's how you keep Veronica around.
00:20:40
Janine Bosco
Yes! Come on! We're going go through the backlist and little things.
00:20:44
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:20:46
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:20:46
Veronica Adams
I'll get to work on it as soon as we're done recording.
00:20:48
Janine Bosco
Yes.
Industry Challenges and Support
00:20:50
Heather Roberts
But yeah, so Veronica and Janine have been working together for, a yeah countless years.
00:20:53
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:20:55
Veronica Adams
Since 2019, since I was pregnant with my son, yeah.
00:20:58
Janine Bosco
yes
00:20:58
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:59
Veronica Adams
It's been a minute.
00:21:00
Heather Roberts
Yeah. So if you ever see any, you know, promo going out for Janine, Veronica has had her fingers on that probably.
00:21:08
Veronica Adams
Probably, yeah.
00:21:09
Janine Bosco
And she helps with the event too. She helps promote the event too.
00:21:12
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:21:12
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:21:13
Janine Bosco
Everything that I need.
00:21:13
Veronica Adams
Yep, Janine gives me the instructions and tells me what she wants to focus on and we go to work building out and getting people to share and yeah.
00:21:15
Janine Bosco
And,
00:21:20
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:22
Janine Bosco
I don't know how many authors watch these these podcasts and stuff because most of them are supposed to be in the cave and what have you. Maybe they listen to whatever. I'm never in the cave.
00:21:30
Veronica Adams
Most of them are procrastinating.
00:21:31
Janine Bosco
I'm in whatever corner of my house I can be in.
00:21:32
Veronica Adams
They're procrastinating. Oh.
00:21:35
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:21:35
Janine Bosco
So there's no cave. But um your company has been a lifesaver to me. And I don't know if a lot of people, I think that the trends change and everyone's looking for something.
00:21:42
Heather Roberts
Oh, thank you.
00:21:42
Veronica Adams
so
00:21:43
Heather Roberts
Oh. and
00:21:49
Janine Bosco
You have been the most stable thing for me. And I mean, sometimes you fuck me up and you give me a new system to learn that I just ignore. That box thing, I don't know what the fuck that is.
00:22:01
Janine Bosco
I'm not getting on it.
00:22:01
Veronica Adams
Moxo.
00:22:02
Janine Bosco
Just cancel my membership. I'm not there.
00:22:04
Heather Roberts
We have a great client portal system all.
00:22:05
Janine Bosco
ah
00:22:08
Janine Bosco
Just making things a little bit more complicated than they have to be.
00:22:09
Veronica Adams
Janine's just not a, she's not an early adopter of these things.
00:22:12
Heather Roberts
Yeah, Janine's not an early adopter, but that's all right. That's all right.
00:22:16
Janine Bosco
No, but your company has saved me in a lot of ways. i There are things that, you know, what readers may not be completely aware of is you don't just write the book and that is the end of it for an indie author.
00:22:30
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:22:30
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:22:31
Janine Bosco
There is so much fucking nonsense. I mean, I spent a month planning TikToks and Veronica can tell, you know, she can, you know, vouch for me on this.
00:22:35
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:22:43
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:22:43
Janine Bosco
I wasted a whole month trying to learn that fucking thing. Okay. I sat there with a fucking script.
00:22:46
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:22:47
Veronica Adams
now
00:22:48
Janine Bosco
I brushed my hair every damn day. It's to learn the goddamn, it just didn't work for me. Right. I can't do all of these things, you know, and you guys take,
00:22:57
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:23:00
Janine Bosco
so much off of my plate and you also keep me on, I mean, it's very hard to keep me on track, but he's also like, he's, he's helped me out. Like you'd help me stay focused or you remind me of things that I need and you've helped me build my brand.
Janine's Podcast Feature
00:23:15
Janine Bosco
So, I mean, and you're consistent. You do the homework and you find out the latest trends. And then if you think I need to learn them, you tell me.
00:23:23
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:23:23
Janine Bosco
If not, you don't bother me with it.
00:23:23
Heather Roberts
right
00:23:25
Janine Bosco
But you guys have been a lifesaver and I appreciate you. And I'm so happy that you finally invited me on your fucking podcast.
00:23:34
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:23:35
Janine Bosco
Not that had to give you a fucking answer or anything.
00:23:37
Heather Roberts
You are the first a client on our podcast. but And as you know, as I told you, Janine, we just started doing guests this year. And so ah we had someone from Penn America on Um, we, uh, you know, but you are the first client on our podcast.
00:23:54
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:23:55
Heather Roberts
So welcome.
00:23:56
Janine Bosco
Thank you for having me.
00:23:57
Heather Roberts
Yes.
00:23:58
Janine Bosco
I love popping cherries.
00:23:58
Heather Roberts
um
00:24:01
Janine Bosco
And we're dead. What happened here?
00:24:02
Heather Roberts
And we adore you, Janine.
00:24:03
Janine Bosco
We're broken?
00:24:04
Veronica Adams
Yes, we certainly do.
00:24:04
Heather Roberts
Um, you know, thank, you know, we, we, we love being there for you and, uh, I'm definitely going to clip that, uh, that's going to be in all of our promos.
00:24:05
Janine Bosco
Why are they frozen? i don't know how to work this thing. Hello? What happened?
00:24:14
Veronica Adams
Oh.
00:24:16
Heather Roberts
Forever. Did we lose Janine? Is she still here? She gave us our promo and then she froze. So
00:24:21
Veronica Adams
ah
00:24:25
Veronica Adams
Where is Shay?
00:24:26
Heather Roberts
I know hopefully her internet pops back on.
00:24:29
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:24:29
Heather Roberts
um
00:24:29
Veronica Adams
Speaking of speaking of clipping.
00:24:32
Heather Roberts
Yes. Right. Yeah. It's like, Oh, I got what I needed from you. No, we love Janine. um
00:24:40
Veronica Adams
For real.
00:24:41
Heather Roberts
and She, I mean, as you can tell, if you if you've never been introduced to her before,
00:24:41
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah. about
00:24:46
Heather Roberts
She has just a vibrant personality. I mean, she is a force of nature and, ah you know, her books are the same way.
00:24:51
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:24:54
Heather Roberts
So they're impactful.
00:24:54
Veronica Adams
They really are.
00:24:56
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:24:56
Veronica Adams
but Very emotional. um yeah like that Her commitment to like writing reality into her stories is, in my opinion, almost unmatched.
00:25:01
Janine Bosco
I don't know if I'm supposed stay here or not.
00:25:05
Veronica Adams
I don't know many authors who do it as well as she does.
00:25:05
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:25:07
Veronica Adams
and I
TNT Series and Events
00:25:08
Veronica Adams
like to consider her books tissues required in almost every case.
00:25:08
Janine Bosco
don't know what to do.
00:25:11
Heather Roberts
Yeah, they they're really good. And there's so many to choose from.
00:25:15
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:25:15
Heather Roberts
um So if you're a reader listening to this, you better go and run and check out his books.
00:25:19
Veronica Adams
Yes, yeah, the OG MC series, The Satan's Knights New York, I think is like, I should know this exactly off the top of my head, and yet I don't.
00:25:20
Janine Bosco
Jesus Christ, this is why don't do well with change.
00:25:20
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:25:23
Janine Bosco
Because I don't even know what the fuck is going on.
00:25:28
Veronica Adams
I think it's 13 or 14 volumes long total from start to finish.
00:25:29
Janine Bosco
Hello, your messages, I'm here!
00:25:31
Veronica Adams
And then there are six books right now in the North Carolina series, although books seven and eight are about to be hot off the presses. So he's she's been very prolific.
00:25:43
Heather Roberts
um She's asking for help. Clicking the link again. This is also quintessential, Janine. There you
00:25:50
Veronica Adams
Well, and and like, yeah, the the flying by the seat of our pants, like anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Yep. There she is.
00:25:56
Heather Roberts
there you are. No, we didn't.
00:26:00
Janine Bosco
I don't know if you heard the tantrum that I just threw.
00:26:03
Veronica Adams
yeah No, no, we were talking about your books while you were melting down.
00:26:03
Heather Roberts
no we did' it
00:26:04
Janine Bosco
No. Oh, okay.
00:26:07
Veronica Adams
It's all good.
00:26:08
Janine Bosco
Oh, okay. i Cause I threw a fucking tantrum. Like this is why, this is why technology hates me.
00:26:15
Heather Roberts
I said that, you know, we got the the the promo snippet and then I was done. but
00:26:21
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:26:24
Veronica Adams
She got the quote she wanted from you and she just cut the podcast at that point.
00:26:26
Heather Roberts
Yeah, I cut it.
00:26:27
Veronica Adams
Like, yeah.
00:26:27
Heather Roberts
No, obviously.
00:26:29
Janine Bosco
Okay. So we're done.
00:26:30
Heather Roberts
No, no.
00:26:32
Veronica Adams
She's joking.
00:26:32
Janine Bosco
Oh.
00:26:32
Veronica Adams
She's joking.
00:26:33
Heather Roberts
I was just.
00:26:34
Janine Bosco
Oh.
Creative Ventures Beyond Writing
00:26:36
Heather Roberts
Oh, my God. But yeah, we were saying very nice things with you while you were dealing with technological issues.
00:26:39
Veronica Adams
Yes. Yes.
00:26:41
Heather Roberts
So.
00:26:41
Janine Bosco
I was afraid if I left, I would fuck up your whole thing.
00:26:44
Heather Roberts
No, no.
00:26:44
Janine Bosco
So seriously, I don't know what you're doing.
00:26:44
Veronica Adams
No.
00:26:45
Heather Roberts
it's only i It's only if I leave that I fuck up the whole thing.
00:26:48
Veronica Adams
Yeah. If Heather disappears, we're screwed.
00:26:51
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:26:51
Janine Bosco
You should definitely like screenshot my help sign.
00:26:55
Heather Roberts
I can throw it up
00:26:57
Janine Bosco
One million percent. Help!
00:27:00
Heather Roberts
there. But yeah.
00:27:03
Janine Bosco
It's kind of like that 15 minutes later. You're right.
00:27:06
Heather Roberts
Yeah, exactly. 15 minutes later. And we're back.
00:27:06
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:27:09
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:27:09
Heather Roberts
But. No, it's been it's been crazy. It's been really awesome to see you grow as a writer and to grow your brand and build it into what it is today.
00:27:17
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:27:19
Heather Roberts
i mean, starting TNT and all of that, you've done so much. You have your hands in literally everything. You have a cookbook. I mean...
00:27:28
Veronica Adams
She
00:27:28
Janine Bosco
had a naughty, really naughty coloring book.
00:27:32
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:27:32
Veronica Adams
does. Yeah.
00:27:33
Heather Roberts
Yeah. So, I mean, you have...
00:27:34
Janine Bosco
I do. I do have cookbook. I'm actually thinking about putting out another one.
00:27:38
Veronica Adams
You should.
00:27:38
Heather Roberts
You should. I mean, you can cook. You are.
00:27:41
Janine Bosco
I definitely love to cook. I definitely love to cook.
00:27:43
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:27:44
Janine Bosco
That was another thing um while I was planning my TikTok era, right?
00:27:49
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:27:49
Janine Bosco
I was going to do like a recipe, but I was going to be in character. That was another thing.
00:27:53
Heather Roberts
that yeah yeah
00:27:53
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:27:54
Janine Bosco
You know, like pretending I'm like Maria Bianchi making the eggplant.
00:27:58
Veronica Adams
trying to Trying to find the shtick for the algorithm. So TikTok will make you go viral.
00:28:00
Janine Bosco
Yeah, something.
00:28:01
Veronica Adams
Yeah, of course.
00:28:02
Janine Bosco
I mean, I was famous on Biker Talk.
00:28:02
Veronica Adams
Wait.
00:28:05
Janine Bosco
Not Book Talk.
00:28:05
Heather Roberts
Were you?
00:28:06
Janine Bosco
Biker Talk.
00:28:06
Veronica Adams
she She really was. One of her promos went viral on Biker Talk.
00:28:08
Janine Bosco
Yes.
00:28:11
Janine Bosco
They thought I was helping out the children.
00:28:11
Heather Roberts
Okay.
00:28:11
Veronica Adams
Not Book Talk.
00:28:13
Janine Bosco
Like we were going to, that Robert Kelly was going to ride his motorcycle to save the child.
00:28:14
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:28:18
Janine Bosco
And they want to know how to become part of the club.
00:28:18
Heather Roberts
Oh.
00:28:21
Janine Bosco
It's very comical.
00:28:21
Heather Roberts
Okay.
00:28:22
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:28:23
Heather Roberts
I believe you. I mean, that's great that you went viral. Wrong audience, but
00:28:27
Veronica Adams
yeah Yeah, we were looking for book sales, not moral support.
00:28:29
Janine Bosco
That's what I'm saying. Maybe if I do booking shows, I'll get somewhere.
00:28:31
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:28:31
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:28:35
Heather Roberts
It's true. There's a guy that does baked baking. ah So you could pull some schtick like that. i don't know. Make it MC.
00:28:43
Janine Bosco
It's very funny. we don't look but It's very nice that we're humoring me right now, but I don't have the time for this.
00:28:49
Heather Roberts
No, you really don't have the time.
00:28:50
Janine Bosco
I owe her 75 arcs.
00:28:53
Heather Roberts
Yeah, you do.
00:28:53
Janine Bosco
Okay.
00:28:53
Veronica Adams
Just three.
00:28:55
Janine Bosco
So I'm just, no, no, no more crazy ideas.
00:28:57
Heather Roberts
Like literally, literally before we started recording, Veronica's like, where's my arc?
00:29:03
Veronica Adams
I did. i did. I didn't even say good morning, Jeannie. How are you? My lovely dream. My vision. i said, where's my arc?
00:29:12
Janine Bosco
And I just like shrunk. like i just went Yeah, you didn't get it.
00:29:17
Heather Roberts
Yeah, it's coming. It's coming.
00:29:19
Veronica Adams
We love you.
00:29:19
Janine Bosco
It's coming.
Balancing Family and Career
00:29:20
Janine Bosco
Everything's coming, man. On a wing of the prayer, they're coming.
00:29:22
Heather Roberts
Oh, I feel you there. Oh, my God.
00:29:25
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Well, that, you know what? I think that that speaks to this business, right? Like, You've got a life. You've got parents and children and an ex-spouse and extended family members and commitments and ah business running the event.
00:29:43
Veronica Adams
Writing books and publishing isn't the only thing you do. It's not the only thing on your calendar. It's part of what you do.
00:29:47
Janine Bosco
No.
00:29:50
Veronica Adams
It's part of the chaos.
00:29:50
Janine Bosco
And my son now like thinks that he's like you know got this whole... like I have to plan everything around my son. My son plays ah football.
00:29:59
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:29:59
Janine Bosco
and um And now I'm like planning my life around sports.
00:30:04
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:30:04
Janine Bosco
you know It's very hard.
00:30:04
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:30:05
Janine Bosco
It is hard to juggle everything. And kudos to the people who make it look really easy.
00:30:06
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:30:10
Janine Bosco
It's not.
00:30:11
Heather Roberts
No, it is not easy. It's not.
00:30:14
Janine Bosco
It's not.
00:30:15
Heather Roberts
I don't know how people would.
00:30:15
Veronica Adams
we're all We're all just faking it at what we do and trying our best. Uh-huh.
00:30:20
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:30:20
Janine Bosco
It's 100% what it is. you know
00:30:22
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:30:23
Janine Bosco
i think that you know what one person can excel at and make look easy isn't necessarily something that someone else can. And you know like everybody has their own thing.
00:30:32
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:30:34
Janine Bosco
you know What they're good at, what they can accomplish.
00:30:34
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:30:34
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:30:36
Janine Bosco
I can't focus for the life of me. um The perimenipause, we had this conversation, is not helping.
00:30:41
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:30:42
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:30:44
Veronica Adams
Speaking of mature heroines.
00:30:44
Janine Bosco
Okay. Okay.
00:30:45
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:30:46
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:30:46
Janine Bosco
yeah I'm going to write a book about that because nobody gives you an education on that shit.
00:30:47
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:30:51
Heather Roberts
No.
00:30:51
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:52
Janine Bosco
You got to rely on Instagram and all these other things to tell you that you're not dying, that you're just fucking aging.
00:30:52
Heather Roberts
No, they don't.
00:30:58
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Well, you are dying, but not, yeah. Yeah.
00:30:58
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:31:02
Veronica Adams
You're dying really slowly.
00:31:02
Janine Bosco
immediately Well, a slow death.
00:31:05
Heather Roberts
It's a slow death. And these are the steps to get there.
00:31:10
Janine Bosco
Wow, this took a dark turn, huh?
00:31:14
Janine Bosco
You if I'm talking about books, I'm slowly dropping dead.
00:31:15
Veronica Adams
yes There's nothing sexier than my itchy ears in the morning.
00:31:15
Heather Roberts
Oh
00:31:18
Veronica Adams
You know what I mean? Like.
00:31:21
Heather Roberts
ah my God.
00:31:22
Janine Bosco
I bet you all the women who are watching this going appreciate that because no one talks about this shit.
00:31:26
Veronica Adams
No, no, absolutely not.
00:31:26
Heather Roberts
No, one does.
00:31:27
Janine Bosco
No. If I had the time, I'd give you another podcast episode where we go through all the symptoms. And I diagnosed you as Dr. Janine.
00:31:36
Veronica Adams
Well, and Janine and I have privately had that discussion.
00:31:36
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:31:38
Veronica Adams
it It really is its own podcast episode, for sure.
00:31:41
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:31:41
Veronica Adams
this the stage of life that we happen to be in right now that other women have gone through before.
00:31:45
Janine Bosco
Honestly, I went on a tangent on the bus ride to the so the barn because I was sweating, right?
00:31:45
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:31:50
Veronica Adams
the event, yeah.
00:31:51
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:31:52
Heather Roberts
So.
00:31:52
Janine Bosco
And I went on a whole tangent.
00:31:54
Janine Bosco
And you thought I was like the mayor up on the shoebox there, schoolbox, preaching gospel to these people because they were all going through it.
00:32:01
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:32:04
Janine Bosco
We're all the same age.
00:32:06
Veronica Adams
Yep. Yep.
00:32:07
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:32:08
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:32:08
Heather Roberts
Well, and it's, so i mean, you're going through that and, you know, you have the multiple children, which I'm sorry, i don't know how people with more than one children child do it. I don't, I don't understand that. um Because, you know, you're like, oh, they'll keep each other company. No, they don't.
00:32:22
Heather Roberts
They fight.
00:32:23
Janine Bosco
village Oh my God.
00:32:24
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:32:25
Janine Bosco
That was exactly the plan. That's why I had two.
00:32:27
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:32:28
Janine Bosco
i think I was an only child. I am an only child.
00:32:30
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:32:31
Janine Bosco
I didn't magically become one. I'm an only child. So I had nobody to hang out with when I was little. I had an imaginary friend named Jenny. Maybe that's where it comes from.
00:32:40
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:32:41
Janine Bosco
Okay. and But I specifically, they'll kill each other every morning. I'm like, that's why there's two of you. You're supposed to be best friends. What's happening?
00:32:50
Heather Roberts
ah Right. They will be.
00:32:51
Veronica Adams
They will be, but not until you're too old to appreciate it.
00:32:53
Janine Bosco
When I'm dead?
00:32:54
Veronica Adams
Yeah, when you're when you're dead and gone, they'll be best friends.
00:32:55
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:32:55
Janine Bosco
Yeah, great.
00:32:57
Heather Roberts
but well yeah They'll become best friends in their 20s. You know, that's how that works.
00:33:00
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:33:02
Heather Roberts
But yeah, the the one is, and I mean, I guess I technically, I do have two children now. I didn't work.
00:33:07
Veronica Adams
You do now.
00:33:08
Heather Roberts
I do. But they're all...
00:33:09
Veronica Adams
I mean, you ah you always have, but like the story is complicated.
00:33:13
Heather Roberts
It's complicated, but there's, there's two of them now, but now they're older. Right. And so now they actually, that it's probably for the best that they didn't, you know, have that relationship when they were younger, they would have fought all the time.
00:33:24
Heather Roberts
um But now they like, actually like want to talk to each other and they're both going to be here for Easter coming up. And I told, ah we were telling Jesse, we're like, Zach's going to be here. And are you going to be here? And he's like, yeah, of course. I don't get to spend enough time with my brother.
00:33:40
Heather Roberts
And I was like, see, those are the sweet moments that you're hoping for one day.
00:33:41
Janine Bosco
oh
00:33:44
Heather Roberts
You'll get there. They're just not old enough.
00:33:46
Janine Bosco
Well, they do have that with their they're um they're older brother. So Paul, my ex, has a son from there.
00:33:51
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:33:53
Janine Bosco
23 years old. So...
00:33:55
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:33:55
Janine Bosco
from his marriage and they idolize him. They worship the ground he walks on.
00:33:59
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:34:00
Janine Bosco
They hate each other, ah but they come together in unity to see like the Messiah.
00:34:00
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:34:01
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Right.
00:34:05
Janine Bosco
He's like the Messiah, the fire of the family.
00:34:06
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:34:06
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:34:07
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:34:07
Janine Bosco
He can do no wrong in any of our eyes.
00:34:10
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:34:10
Janine Bosco
That was another thing. I got tricked. Like I had the stepson from gold. Okay. This kid was amazing.
00:34:16
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:34:18
Janine Bosco
Like the most well-behaved kid ever. I'm like, I'm going to produce a couple more of these.
00:34:23
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:34:23
Janine Bosco
Nope.
00:34:23
Heather Roberts
No.
00:34:24
Veronica Adams
Nope.
00:34:25
Heather Roberts
Nope.
00:34:25
Janine Bosco
No!
00:34:25
Veronica Adams
Nope.
00:34:26
Janine Bosco
Complete opposites! Horns!
00:34:28
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:34:28
Veronica Adams
Nope.
00:34:30
Heather Roberts
like
00:34:31
Veronica Adams
Putting each other through walls in the Airbnb.
00:34:33
Janine Bosco
Yep, so you avoided that, Heather.
00:34:36
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:34:37
Janine Bosco
You don't want to play air being leafies for broken walls.
00:34:37
Heather Roberts
No, I avoided that.
00:34:40
Heather Roberts
That's all right.
00:34:40
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:34:41
Heather Roberts
I just had a ah car fee where his car, my, you know, the car is broken and went into the shop and yeah, I got the bill for that.
00:34:50
Janine Bosco
Oh, no, no.
00:34:52
Heather Roberts
So.
00:34:52
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:34:52
Janine Bosco
I want to pause button to hold off on all of that. The other day, Joseph asked me if he could go to the city with his friends.
00:34:56
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:34:59
Janine Bosco
Now, Joseph is my oldest. He's 14 years old, preface it by saying that. But my son can't tie his shoes.
00:35:02
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:35:06
Janine Bosco
Like, he's not going to the fuck on a ferry to go to the fucking city with strength. Like, no, not happening.
00:35:12
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:35:13
Janine Bosco
Not happening.
00:35:13
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:35:13
Janine Bosco
They burned the lady on the subway the other day. You're not going. You don't know how to survive.
00:35:17
Heather Roberts
yes
00:35:18
Janine Bosco
Right? he go He turns to me and he goes... I'm going to be 16. I'm going to be driving soon. i went like this. How is he going to operate a car?
00:35:29
Janine Bosco
Who's going to give him a license?
00:35:30
Veronica Adams
I don't know.
00:35:31
Heather Roberts
I know I know. um my God, Janine. It's terrifying. When you're sitting there, I have never held on to the like, it's like your whole body just locks.
00:35:43
Heather Roberts
And the entire time that they are driving and you're just like, Jesse, for some reason, kept wanting to pull left. I mean, like he wanted to be in the other lane for some fucking reason. I have no idea why.
00:35:54
Heather Roberts
And I'm like, pull right, pull right, go right It's like, he didn't want to run off the road.
00:35:55
Janine Bosco
nice long that's
00:35:59
Heather Roberts
i don't know. But I'm like, kick Come on. Semi, you know, semis can drive down the road and stay in the lines. You're in this small little, come on, stay between the fucking lines.
00:36:12
Heather Roberts
Oh my God. It's, it is the most anxiety inducing experience of your life.
00:36:18
Janine Bosco
I don't want to go there. I'm not ready for that.
00:36:19
Heather Roberts
Yeah. i I mean, he's a good driver. i still don't like driving with him. I have because of the memories like, Oh,
00:36:25
Janine Bosco
I,
00:36:27
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:36:28
Janine Bosco
I, I, no, I don't want them to, the older they get, like I, so I used to think that like the baby ages were really hard. Like you didn't sleep. I don't even remember their childhoods.
00:36:38
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:36:39
Janine Bosco
Honestly, i don't even remember half the fucking things that I'm supposed to remember with that when they were little, but these years are, I'm very sorry, Veronica, because I know you didn't get there yet.
00:36:44
Veronica Adams
Oh.
00:36:49
Veronica Adams
Yeah, because i my mine of the three of us, I have the youngest child. So like I'm the one listening to you two going, oh, holy fuck.
00:36:57
Heather Roberts
Yeah, no, we have an age ranges.
00:36:57
Janine Bosco
You're
00:36:58
Heather Roberts
I'm the oldest, Janice is the middle. at
00:37:01
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:37:01
Janine Bosco
going to need these. If you don't have them already, you're going to need these.
00:37:02
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:37:02
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:05
Janine Bosco
Okay. Everyone wants to know why I have a cigarette in my mouth. I have a teenager. That's why. feel like I, the perimenopause aside, I feel like I aged 10 years in the last four years that my son has been, you know, in that, you know,
00:37:10
Heather Roberts
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:18
Heather Roberts
Yes.
00:37:23
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:37:24
Janine Bosco
change from middle school to high school, it's torture.
00:37:27
Heather Roberts
It just started, like literally Jesse just started to like develop thoughts that weren't insane. I mean, it's just like, Yeah, ah this year has been, it's been a calming effect. And he's not a bad kid.
00:37:43
Heather Roberts
Not that your kids are bad kids either, but like, they're just dumb.
00:37:47
Heather Roberts
they're stupid. Yeah. yeah
00:37:47
Veronica Adams
Well, you're so I mean, your son's in college now and he's living on his own in the dorms on campus.
00:37:51
Veronica Adams
He's maturing.
00:37:53
Heather Roberts
He adulted by himself the other day.
00:37:53
Janine Bosco
back
00:37:55
Heather Roberts
Like he had to get something for the school and they put a hold on his account but because the school messed it up.
00:37:55
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:38:01
Heather Roberts
But he went and he had to go to the office and he figured it out and he got the document that was required and and did the whole thing. i was just there for moral support. That was beautiful.
00:38:13
Veronica Adams
Nice.
00:38:13
Heather Roberts
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it gets there.
00:38:14
Janine Bosco
I think that's the thing. You have that mature that, you know, they say boys, you know, mature slower than girls. And it's true.
00:38:21
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:38:21
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:38:22
Janine Bosco
They weren't lying, you know?
00:38:22
Heather Roberts
It's true. They weren't lying.
00:38:24
Janine Bosco
And I think that is the key there. At least I'm praying it is because this is so bad. Oh
00:38:31
Heather Roberts
It's true. But, you know, he flipped a car about a year ago. So, you know, things, yeah, I know.
00:38:35
Janine Bosco
my God. No. offpha it
00:38:37
Heather Roberts
It's terrifying, Janine, sending them off into the world. and ah
00:38:41
Janine Bosco
They're like those chickens, you know, swapping their wings, can't get off the ground.
00:38:44
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:38:47
Janine Bosco
That's them. Gotta go now.
00:38:49
Heather Roberts
That's them.
00:38:51
Janine Bosco
Kick in the ass.
00:38:51
Heather Roberts
I know. It's wild. yeah Yeah, Veronica, I mean, it it goes by quick. Soon he's going to want to go off and like... Yeah.
00:38:59
Veronica Adams
Yeah, I'm not i'm not ready. we had a so We had a slumber party last night in in our room. It's just my husband stayed up late playing Magic the Gathering with some of his friends online. So the kiddo and I went to bed early in our room and we watched tornado TikToks for 30 minutes.
00:39:09
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:39:14
Veronica Adams
And then he fell asleep snuggling me. And it's like, this is like the best time of my life, family wise.
00:39:18
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:39:19
Veronica Adams
Like, he still loves me.
00:39:19
Janine Bosco
It is.
00:39:20
Heather Roberts
It is.
00:39:20
Veronica Adams
He wants to do stuff with me. Like we are, you know, we're like BFFs. like we
00:39:25
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:39:25
Veronica Adams
We fight about like, we we we fight about like, you can't have ice cream right now.
00:39:27
Heather Roberts
I know.
00:39:30
Veronica Adams
Like that, those are my problems.
Future Event Plans
00:39:32
Veronica Adams
I'm not worried about driving or youth sports or, you know, that the schoolyard hustle or anything else.
00:39:32
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:39:39
Veronica Adams
Like, I'm, you know, it's.
00:39:39
Janine Bosco
see
00:39:39
Heather Roberts
you know
00:39:40
Janine Bosco
The schoolyard hustle.
00:39:40
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
00:39:42
Heather Roberts
Yeah. It's so true. Oh my God. Soon it's going to be homework and sports and oh, it is.
00:39:46
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:39:49
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:39:50
Heather Roberts
It is. Yeah.
00:39:51
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:39:51
Heather Roberts
A lot.
00:39:53
Veronica Adams
So let's go back to TNT for just a second.
00:39:53
Heather Roberts
But.
00:39:55
Heather Roberts
sure Yeah,
00:39:56
Veronica Adams
Janine, I want to talk about next year for a minute while we've got Janine here. Like, 2026, you're making plans already, right?
00:40:00
Heather Roberts
absolutely.
00:40:05
Janine Bosco
Yeah, author announcements start on Monday in the ah Facebook group because, and we'll, you know, we'll promote it other places.
00:40:10
Veronica Adams
Awesome.
00:40:13
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:40:13
Janine Bosco
um We're keeping things the same as far as Friday is concerned. So there will be a night with the Knights.
00:40:18
Veronica Adams
Cool.
00:40:20
Janine Bosco
um We may have to change our venue though.
00:40:21
Veronica Adams
Another chance to go to the party barn and with the sheriff outside. Gotcha.
00:40:24
Janine Bosco
may have to change our venue. Yeah.
00:40:27
Heather Roberts
Okay.
00:40:27
Veronica Adams
Oh. Oh. no
00:40:29
Janine Bosco
Yes. So we may be back to the drawing board on that one. The jury's still out.
00:40:35
Heather Roberts
Okay.
00:40:35
Janine Bosco
um So but I missed the chaos, but I got it tenfold back.
00:40:35
Veronica Adams
gotcha
00:40:38
Janine Bosco
um
00:40:40
Veronica Adams
ah
00:40:40
Janine Bosco
But we're also adding Sunday and we're adding Sunday to it because, you know, here we started thing when with things were in New York.
00:40:43
Veronica Adams
a
00:40:43
Heather Roberts
Okay.
00:40:48
Janine Bosco
The first year it was, you know, simple, a little Friday night pizza party and Saturday was the signing.
00:40:52
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:40:54
Janine Bosco
Then, you know, we added a cocktail party at night and this, that, the other thing here, there's none of that. And I personally enjoy that. There's no after party on Saturday. because that's the time I get to actually be with the people, you know, authors, like, you know, I sponsor a lot of the models.
00:41:09
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:41:14
Janine Bosco
I co-sponsored them since i since I moved to North Carolina.
00:41:15
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:41:17
Janine Bosco
I used to bring them all. And I used to hand them a fucking Uber Eats card and say, see you later. ah Because there was never time for me to ever take them out to dinner to thank them for their work or anything that they've done.
00:41:22
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:41:25
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:41:26
Heather Roberts
right
00:41:26
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:41:28
Janine Bosco
And now that little break on Saturday gives me a chance to do that and gives me a chance to hang out with the other authors and thank them for you know choosing TNT.
00:41:30
Veronica Adams
Nice.
00:41:37
Janine Bosco
For so long, I've missed that opportunity. So we decided that we were going We. I don't know who this we is. It's me. I am the person.
00:41:42
Heather Roberts
It's you.
00:41:43
Janine Bosco
Okay?
00:41:43
Heather Roberts
It's you.
00:41:44
Janine Bosco
This sounds better when you say you have a whole group of people behind you and you don't. You have nothing.
00:41:48
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:41:49
Janine Bosco
decided.
00:41:50
Veronica Adams
You do, but it's like unofficial.
00:41:50
Janine Bosco
Yes. island
00:41:51
Veronica Adams
You get your volunteers, you get your friends, you've got us, but like, yeah, you are, you are the person.
00:41:54
Heather Roberts
You get to decide.
00:41:54
Janine Bosco
yeah
00:41:56
Veronica Adams
Yeah. You are the decider.
00:41:57
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:41:59
Janine Bosco
So I decided that Sunday, because people stayed until Monday.
00:42:00
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:42:04
Janine Bosco
i I stayed until Monday because I was an asshole and I booked the wrong flight, right? I could have gone home. In fact, I probably would have gotten there on, you know, earlier.
00:42:15
Janine Bosco
I didn't get home until Tuesday because of my fucking travel woes.
00:42:16
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:42:18
Janine Bosco
But anyway, little story.
00:42:18
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:42:19
Heather Roberts
Oh my God.
00:42:21
Janine Bosco
um But people were staying there until Monday. And so there is a demand, I guess, for something on Sunday.
00:42:29
Heather Roberts
here
00:42:31
Janine Bosco
And I don't want to get up early.
00:42:31
Veronica Adams
Nice.
00:42:33
Janine Bosco
So we're going to do like a brunch event.
00:42:36
Veronica Adams
Love it.
00:42:36
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:42:37
Janine Bosco
And there'll be you know food and there'll be panels. And there's a couple of surprises that we're working on. um Really cool things that you know are interactive. For example, one of the ideas is for narrators to actually have a live um recording of one of my audio books.
00:42:56
Veronica Adams
Yes.
00:42:57
Heather Roberts
Oh, very cool.
00:42:58
Janine Bosco
Well, like that, like to see their process and whatnot. So I think, cause they do that online. Like they'll, you know, record themselves reading the book whatever, but I think it would be really cool for other people to see that.
00:43:04
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:43:06
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:43:10
Janine Bosco
And um so the details are still working. I'm still working on the details of Sunday, but there will be a Sunday event now.
00:43:17
Veronica Adams
Yay.
00:43:17
Heather Roberts
Awesome.
00:43:18
Janine Bosco
Yes.
00:43:18
Heather Roberts
Love that.
00:43:20
Janine Bosco
Me too.
00:43:20
Veronica Adams
So if if an author would like to throw their name in the hat to be involved next year or in future years, what's the best way for them to do that? Okay.
00:43:29
Janine Bosco
So right now we are at full capacity. they um
00:43:32
Veronica Adams
Okay.
00:43:32
Janine Bosco
We cannot... um Well, I will be opening up the...
00:43:35
Veronica Adams
all so All spots are spoken for at this point.
00:43:38
Janine Bosco
All spots are spoken for right now. We're waiting on a few other things to see if we can maneuver more room.
00:43:40
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:43:45
Janine Bosco
um
00:43:45
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:43:46
Janine Bosco
But I don't have an interest form yet. I will and not an interest form, a waitlist form. I will be putting one out.
00:43:50
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:43:51
Janine Bosco
But the thing with that is, and I don't know if people tell you this, but those waitlist forms are a bunch of garbage. OK, you're going to fill out the waitlist form now. Right.
00:44:00
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:00
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:44:00
Janine Bosco
Not remember that you filled it out.
00:44:03
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:44:03
Janine Bosco
Six months from now, an author's going to drop and want to resell her table. and they're gonna go to you. They're going to email me and like, do you have a wait list? And I'm going to be like, sure. I'll reach out to the people on the wait list.
00:44:14
Janine Bosco
They will not respond because they don't even fucking remember who I am or why I'm calling.
00:44:18
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:44:18
Veronica Adams
Right. Right.
00:44:19
Janine Bosco
You know, so.
00:44:20
Veronica Adams
Or, the you know, the event is in six months and they don't have enough time to make plans to fill that spot.
00:44:20
Janine Bosco
i mean so
00:44:23
Janine Bosco
Well, even like, even when you get those minute.
00:44:25
Veronica Adams
Or they're going to a different event or something. Yeah.
00:44:27
Janine Bosco
Right.
00:44:27
Veronica Adams
Mm-hmm.
00:44:28
Janine Bosco
Even when you get those last minute dropouts, like I was lucky that, you know, we were able to fill some spots with local authors that reached out directly to me.
00:44:36
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Right.
00:44:36
Janine Bosco
But like, if you're dropping out two weeks before the event, I know me personally, I'm not making arrangements to go anywhere. I can't even get books. You know, so I think people need to take all those things into consideration.
00:44:43
Veronica Adams
Right.
00:44:43
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:44:48
Janine Bosco
um youre You're better off reaching out to, you know, if you you so come across something and say, oh, well, I want to attend. Reach out in six months personally to me than so filling out the waitlist because I don't even know if you're really still interested in six months from now.
00:45:02
Veronica Adams
Yeah, right.
00:45:02
Janine Bosco
You know, I think that works better, but to each his own.
00:45:02
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:07
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:45:07
Heather Roberts
But you still will have a waitlist form.
00:45:09
Veronica Adams
For sure.
00:45:09
Janine Bosco
I still have it because they'll ask for it.
00:45:11
Heather Roberts
Because we will have work.
00:45:11
Janine Bosco
And then what I'm just going and then I sound like a bitch with saying like, no, we don't have one.
00:45:12
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:45:15
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:45:15
Janine Bosco
Wait until 2027. Like I just thought I'd make it and we just do it.
00:45:18
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:45:20
Janine Bosco
But I will.
00:45:20
Veronica Adams
Well, I mean, at this point, that's the only choice, right? They they need to wait till 2027.
00:45:22
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:45:24
Veronica Adams
And, you know.
00:45:25
Janine Bosco
At this point, it it appears to be that way. And, you know, people keep asking.
00:45:28
Veronica Adams
Which is amazing for you.
00:45:30
Heather Roberts
Yeah, that's amazing.
00:45:30
Janine Bosco
It is, it's wonderful.
00:45:31
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:45:31
Janine Bosco
It really is humbling to see how many people, want to be part of it. How many people sign up?
00:45:37
Veronica Adams
yeah. yeah.
00:45:38
Janine Bosco
Um, I wish I could take everybody cause I hate being the person that says no.
Event Planning Advice
00:45:42
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:45:42
Janine Bosco
People said no to me when I first started, people ignored me. You know, and i had five books at a table and people walked right past me and, oh, you don't have enough books.
00:45:46
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Right.
00:45:52
Janine Bosco
It's it's very catty as much as people want to say that it's not, it is.
00:45:54
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:45:57
Janine Bosco
but So i will I don't care if you published one book or if you have 70 in your backlist and all these accolades, God bless you. You still have a seat at my table as long as I have a table to put you at.
00:46:08
Janine Bosco
If I don't have a table to put you at, then you know my hand's inside.
00:46:09
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Right.
00:46:11
Veronica Adams
right
00:46:12
Janine Bosco
um I've been asked about getting a bigger venue and stuff like that too, but it's very difficult. um I know that they say that people down South are super nice and sweet and the people up North are the real motherfuckers, right?
00:46:26
Janine Bosco
But I've had more people hang up on me trying to plan this thing. i don't know if they hear my voice and say, fuck no, or what it is. not taking that from me.
00:46:37
Veronica Adams
Get this city slicker out of here.
00:46:40
Heather Roberts
not
00:46:40
Janine Bosco
We don't need any more of those down here.
00:46:41
Heather Roberts
line
00:46:44
Janine Bosco
i so i don't know what it is, but the hotel that I'm working with, they were the only people that um were willing to have me. I don't know if you remember, Heather, when I first met you, we were at a hotel in Raleigh.
00:46:58
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:46:59
Janine Bosco
Yeah, it was authors in the city.
00:46:59
Heather Roberts
Mm-hmm.
00:47:00
Janine Bosco
It was a book signing.
00:47:01
Heather Roberts
Authors in the City.
00:47:02
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:47:02
Heather Roberts
Yep.
00:47:03
Janine Bosco
well I went to that hotel first because I knew i knew that they could ah comment that they had experience and that they could accommodate something like that.
00:47:06
Heather Roberts
Did you?
00:47:10
Veronica Adams
Yeah, they had a history of doing it.
00:47:10
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:47:14
Janine Bosco
They wanted no part at all of it.
00:47:17
Heather Roberts
Wow.
00:47:18
Janine Bosco
Yes. So finding the venue was very difficult.
00:47:18
Heather Roberts
Wow.
00:47:20
Janine Bosco
And then when I did find the venue, I was flying, i was still flying blind with it. You know, I didn't know what it looked like Pictures are different than seeing it with your own eyes.
00:47:26
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:47:27
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:47:30
Janine Bosco
So I, I feel that if I did find like a convention center or something like that, I'd be starting like really from scratch and not, not doing that from a different city.
00:47:40
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:47:41
Janine Bosco
Okay.
00:47:41
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:47:42
Veronica Adams
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:47:42
Heather Roberts
Yeah. and That makes total sense. Well, readers, how many readers do you tend to have at these events and how can they get tickets?
00:47:49
Janine Bosco
So um last year we were at our max capacity with 350 readers, right? It's a small signing. It's intimate.
00:47:58
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:47:58
Janine Bosco
And, you know, if you're looking for like a major convention, like three day thing with these big pop-up stores, booths and whatnot, I'm not your girl.
00:48:11
Heather Roberts
Yeah, no.
00:48:11
Janine Bosco
I'm not your girl. I'm the girl you want to go to who a family reunion with.
00:48:13
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:48:14
Janine Bosco
And that's exactly what TNT is like. You know, I'm going I'm going get you drunk and have a good time, which going show you some, you know, a good time.
00:48:17
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:48:22
Janine Bosco
But, um, so they get the tickets, uh, tickets going to on sale next month because like I said, we're still working on things. I was, um, all the information that you need is on Facebook.
00:48:34
Janine Bosco
And I know a lot of people don't like Facebook, but I also post everything on the website. I update them simultaneously because then I forget. So um the website's tntnyc.net, and that's where you can buy your tickets and stuff like that.
00:48:44
Heather Roberts
Right. Oh
00:48:52
Janine Bosco
um Like I said, we we we cap it at and we also stagger our different ticket types into the room so that it's not like that first year that room was packed to capacity because you're not, you also have 80 authors, you have narrators, you have all this assistants and the candlestick makers and this one.
00:49:10
Veronica Adams
Right. Yeah.
00:49:13
Heather Roberts
ah yeah
00:49:14
Janine Bosco
that one So, I mean, you're looking over 500 people in the room.
00:49:18
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:49:19
Janine Bosco
So you have to take all that into consideration, but tickets will go on sale next month.
00:49:19
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:49:23
Janine Bosco
You could get them at the website. You could follow us on TNT book events, you know, the at sign TNT book events on Instagram and TikTok ah for more information too.
00:49:34
Janine Bosco
And also you could, I always tell people that that are just finding out about the event, go on Instagram and look at it.
00:49:41
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:49:41
Janine Bosco
look at Look at all the things that happened through the years and see if you want to be part of it.
00:49:46
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:49:46
Heather Roberts
Love that. i think I think we should do one more question and then we will end it on this. So here's my question, Janine. what advice What advice would you give other authors or event planners who also want to run their own event?
00:50:08
Janine Bosco
Don't do it for money.
00:50:13
Janine Bosco
There's none to be found. Yeah.
00:50:15
Veronica Adams
She's in it for the love of the game, y'all.
00:50:16
Janine Bosco
and i' Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:50:18
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:50:19
Janine Bosco
No, because I see a lot of that. Like they think, ah you know, I don't understand why I'm not selling this or I'm going to put 87 authors on a Friday and 97 authors on a month.
00:50:27
Heather Roberts
All
00:50:29
Janine Bosco
No one's going to come the following year if you do that. Stop.
00:50:31
Heather Roberts
right.
00:50:31
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:50:31
Janine Bosco
Stop making this your business plan. Make it about make it about having fun. You know, make it a passion.
00:50:38
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:50:39
Janine Bosco
This is a passion project.
00:50:41
Heather Roberts
Right.
00:50:41
Janine Bosco
You know, it is a very stressful thing to do. Yeah.
00:50:46
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:50:47
Janine Bosco
and it's very time consuming. But it is very rewarding when you see people having a good time or thanking you for your time and your effort.
00:50:56
Heather Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:58
Janine Bosco
and um And just to see people other people interact and make friends. Like, I love watching that. I love this.
00:51:05
Heather Roberts
Yeah.
00:51:06
Janine Bosco
Like, you'll see the post, like, a couple of days or weeks before the event. Flying solo, don't know anybody. And then you'll see, like, seven people message them. I'm coming by myself, too.
00:51:18
Janine Bosco
And then you see them at the bar drinking the night the next, you know, at the event. And you're just like, I did that. I did that.
00:51:24
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:51:24
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:51:25
Janine Bosco
You know, and that's nice.
00:51:25
Veronica Adams
Yep.
00:51:26
Janine Bosco
That's a nice feeling. So if you want to plan an event, take all that into consideration. Do it for the people and for the love of books and bringing people together.
00:51:32
Veronica Adams
Do it for the love of bringing people together. Yep.
00:51:36
Janine Bosco
Don't do it to fill your pockets. You're not going to. You're
Closing Gratitude and Collaboration
00:51:39
Janine Bosco
going to be a starving artist on the street when you can.
00:51:39
Veronica Adams
I love that.
00:51:39
Heather Roberts
yeah
00:51:43
Heather Roberts
I think that is very valid advice and something a lot of people don't think about.
00:51:46
Veronica Adams
For sure.
00:51:48
Heather Roberts
so
00:51:48
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:51:49
Janine Bosco
No.
00:51:49
Heather Roberts
Well, thank you.
00:51:49
Veronica Adams
Thank you, Jeannie. We love you.
00:51:51
Heather Roberts
We love you, Jeannie.
00:51:54
Janine Bosco
Please don't call me Jeannie.
00:51:57
Heather Roberts
We love you.
00:51:58
Janine Bosco
hate it. don't like it. All right.
00:52:01
Heather Roberts
We love you.
00:52:01
Janine Bosco
Now, thank you guys for having me.
00:52:01
Heather Roberts
We do.
00:52:02
Veronica Adams
Yeah.
00:52:02
Janine Bosco
I love you guys. Thank you for helping me and sticking with me. And you guys should plug yourselves. Tell them.
00:52:07
Heather Roberts
we
00:52:08
Janine Bosco
Tell all the authors. They need to get on this.
00:52:10
Heather Roberts
Yes, absolutely.
00:52:12
Veronica Adams
yeah
00:52:12
Heather Roberts
I love it. I love that. And yeah, we appreciate you so much. And until next time, this has been For Book's Sake.
00:52:26
Janine Bosco
It's like...