Introduction and Main Topic: Anal Sex
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Jon McCray Jones
Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the fun with sex podcast. I'm Natalie and I have a very fun guest here today. Alex. Hello. hi Do you want to give a little bit about yourself? Oh, yeah. um Like how we matter, like just.
00:00:21
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah, whatever you want to share. Okay.
Natalie and Alex: Friendship and Drag Experience
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Jon McCray Jones
um So we've become friends through the Sluts Party. um i am an entertainer. I'm a drag queen. I've been working in Chicago now as a queen for.
00:00:32
Jon McCray Jones
about 10 years in June. So yeah. um Yeah. I've been around and that's kind of how we met. And yeah. Little appearance from the cat. Love it. Love it. We're becoming friends now.
Alex Shares Experience and Advice on Anal Sex
00:00:48
Jon McCray Jones
um But yeah, I'm not an expert in sex education, but I have had a lot of sex. I have a lot of experience having sex. So um I'd like to give as much input as I can.
00:01:04
Jon McCray Jones
And I like to think I've done my my research and that I know a thing or two. So I'm excited for today. Yeah, so today we are going to be covering anal.
00:01:16
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. This has been topic heavily on my mind because I was somebody where, you know, I still, my anal virginity has not been taken yet. I still have never had like a full dick or dildo I've other forms play, but play but Really, I've just been on this journey ah learning about it, getting advice from people, and I thought,
00:01:45
Jon McCray Jones
Who else a better person to have than Alex on here to kind of give us the tea, let us know, give us advice. Yeah, the neighborhood local bottom. I live down the street. So yeah, no, that's honestly, I'm honored.
00:02:00
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah, I mean, as a bottom, like I've been doing it now for a while. So yeah, I hope I can give you some good information. And for everyone who is listening or watching, ah if this is also your first time, i hope that we can...
00:02:14
Jon McCray Jones
make this easier for you so that you can feel more confident about trying it. Yes, that's exactly what we're here for.
Natalie's Journey and Challenges with Anal Sex
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Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. so my experience with anal so far is I've tried it a couple times um years ago, did not go well. Because again, I was very much going in with no preparation and education and just kind of trying and it did not work. yeah so what has your experience been like?
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Jon McCray Jones
um you definitely so when I first uh tried it yeah um I didn't know what I was doing either uh it did not work um and it wasn't until so i was about 21 I'm kind of a late bloomer um for the first time I ever tried anything um anally and I luckily um brought home ah He wasn't that much older than me, but he was older enough where he could teach me the basics. And that is when ah had my first experience that went pretty well.
00:03:15
Jon McCray Jones
um But it wasn't until like, a few times ah before I really kind of got the rhythm, figured out how to do it and started to enjoy it and was like, oh, this is what, this is what. Yes. Yeah.
00:03:28
Jon McCray Jones
It was not my first time that I enjoyed it. So if you do it for the first time and it's not fun, um just know that like I was also there and it's something you have to figure out. And some people, it never ends up being their thing. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I mean, ah the amount of gay people I know who they tried it didn't like it and it's okay because they're tops and I love that for me.
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Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. And there's also, as we talk on the podcast all the time, there's truly something for everyone um and there's other things you can experience as well.
Finding the Right Partner for Anal Sex
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Jon McCray Jones
I feel like a big thing that I hear people talking about a lot is finding the right partner and the right person to do it with, especially if it is your first time, if you're nervous, if you're just getting into it.
00:04:16
Jon McCray Jones
So what would you say are kind of some like red versus green flags when you're trying to find someone to experience this with? I think, first of all, um i wouldn't be a size queen about it the first time. Yeah. Yeah. i wouldn't I wouldn't go up to someone who with, you know, the biggest dick in the crowd or the biggest strap in the crowd. And, you know, if you're picking out toys, for example, um do not go with the largest one first.
00:04:44
Jon McCray Jones
Uh, honestly, that helps. I find that there's a certain size range that works the best for me. Again, everybody's body is different, but, um, I have limits. yeah Yeah. I have limits. So definitely don't start with the biggest.
00:04:57
Jon McCray Jones
Um, Also, a medium I like a medium girth. I think that helps. Yeah. um Because a lot of anal, sometimes you can get air that's pushed up into your body and that um can hurt.
00:05:11
Jon McCray Jones
So you want to find a good size girth. um not too long of length. um Also in a partner, um someone who is not a total top, who's never bottomed before in their life, who just wants to who just wants to like pound you and wreck you. And like that is fine if you're a professional bottom yeah and you can handle that.
00:05:34
Jon McCray Jones
Find someone who is probably um versatile, someone who has done it before, someone who knows what feels good for them, even if it's not exactly what feels good for you, they've already done it. They've been vulnerable. and They've been in that position that usually helps someone like the first person who really helped me. They did it before. Yeah. So they could go slowly with me. They they're like, here, this is when you just keep it in you. This is when you let it open you up a little bit. This is when we can start moving in this position.
00:06:00
Jon McCray Jones
They know where to ah position themselves to make your, whatever your anatomy is feel good. Yeah, I would say the things you described is exactly what I've been looking for. I've been kind of having my ah little game of anal bachelorette, if you will.
00:06:19
Jon McCray Jones
oh Give a little rose toy instead of natural rose. Literally, yeah, because I'm in this like silly little predicament where both my partners are too big.
00:06:32
Jon McCray Jones
yeah it doesn't It doesn't work like that for my first time. So I've been trying to find somebody with the right size penis, hopefully like a bi man who has been on both ends of it and really knows what they're doing. So I have some interested people. um It's just about really really going on those dates and seeing who I'm most compatible with.
00:06:58
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. You can also start with toys. It doesn't have to necessarily be someone... um penetrating you with like their anatomy or in a situation where they're topping you. But That is, I think, I mean, it just depends on situation. But ah from for me, what worked was someone who had a penis and um who had bottomed before.
00:07:24
Jon McCray Jones
So, um but if you want to start with toys, that is also yes a very normal, logical path to go you'd like that.
00:07:35
Jon McCray Jones
And that's a really, ah you know, nice perk to lesbian dating as well is You can choose the penis size. Yes, yes. It's that easy. um um So ah personal story, I actually have a friend who has pegged me and she so was setting up like the toys and I was like, no, no, we're going to use the smaller one.
00:07:56
Jon McCray Jones
And that's fun. Like you can choose that. And it was it was perfect. It fit perfectly. And it wasn't a challenge, which I enjoyed quite a bit. And she did a great job. It's fun because she was like a little nervous and she did
Diet and Health Considerations for Anal Sex
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Jon McCray Jones
a great job.
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Jon McCray Jones
oh my god I love that all right so I feel like a big question people always have is how do I prepare I feel like especially it's so funny when you talk to hetero girls there's really just this like know you know just kind of go for it but that is not how the gays are doing it and we have advice yes so um should we talk about like foods that you want to eat and foods you want to avoid? Or should we talk about like the douching process first?
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Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. If you want to get into like what you should and shouldn't eat. Okay. First of all, make sure you have a high fiber diet. Honestly, fiber is like the most important part.
00:08:58
Jon McCray Jones
And if you're getting regular fiber, that's going to be your biggest ally to bottoming and be ah having anal sex. Also, um, also um Like for me, dairy is not something that's going to make an anal experience fun for me. That's not going to make me ah someone who's able to participate in anal sex.
00:09:21
Jon McCray Jones
So avoid foods that, you know, give you a stomachache, obviously, greasy foods. um Anything that's going to um keep your stool from being solid and able to easily pass through you.
00:09:36
Jon McCray Jones
Um, because then when you go to clean out, um, it'll make it easier. And I know some people that are so regular, they've gotten their system down that they sometimes don't even have to clean out at all.
00:09:49
Jon McCray Jones
ahha Um, and I'm jealous of those people. Um,
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Jon McCray Jones
But it's it's true. Like, that can that can happen. I personally use Metamucil makes these caps because I don't want to drink that mix. Yeah. No.
00:10:06
Jon McCray Jones
There are a lot of brands out there. um They have made some, like, cute ones now that, are like, well, they make, like, four hymns for her. That's a popular one. Be careful of the ones that oversell. Like, they um to overcharge you.
00:10:19
Jon McCray Jones
You don't want to pay too much for that. Yeah. But it can get pricey. But honestly, I take two capsules a day. You have to take them individually while you're standing up to help it flow.
00:10:30
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. Because you're taking it. There's lot of fiber. hu um But if you don't want to do that, honestly, just have a high fiber diet. Lots of veggies and fruits. um If you drink a lot, that's going to affect it because it's going to destroy some of your gut biome.
00:10:43
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're over-douching, which we'll talk about, um because there is a natural bacteria, and there's a natural layer of mucus in your anus that you need to keep because your body needs that to protect itself and to keep things ah regularly flowing.
00:11:01
Jon McCray Jones
So, yeah, I think that's as much as I can say about diet. um Yeah. That reminds me, it was like Grubhub or one of those like Postmates apps.
00:11:13
Jon McCray Jones
They had a pride ad that was like bottom friendly menu. Oh my God, that's funny. That's really funny. I wish I saw that. when It's just all salads.
00:11:24
Jon McCray Jones
Literally. No, there's always that trope of like, you can't eat anything if you're going to bottom. them And that's not true. um i think it's, I mean, if you want to, you know, if you want to be the no loads, refuse, bottom and a cum dump, maybe you don't want to eat anything. Yeah. um But like, I have a friend who takes Imodium every time.
00:11:43
Jon McCray Jones
But like, I don't, I want this to be a situation where you're not having to go to those extremes. Yes. um So that you I don't want you stocking up on Imodium. I heard a porn star once say something ridiculous about taking like 15 Imodium. Please do not do that.
00:11:57
Jon McCray Jones
Oh my God. Please do not. That is not what it's meant for. It's meant for if you have diarrhea, if you have like actual like issues. um This is not an issue. This is pleasure. This is fun. You should not be taking that much Imodium. Yeah.
00:12:08
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. So yeah just um a healthy diet and try not to โ oh, that was my phone. I'm so sorry. um We're just going to leave it on the floor. um Yeah, try not to drink too much or eat too much greasy and healthy foods, fatty foods.
00:12:24
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. Awesome.
Preparation Tools and Techniques for Anal Sex
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Jon McCray Jones
All right. So getting into douching, what is that process like and what is your advice? So I started wrong with the little โ they sell one at like Walgreens.
00:12:37
Jon McCray Jones
um And that it's like a medical one for people who are constipated. And it's a little blue. um It looks like a squishy kind of like squish ball looking thing with a little white um plastic tube at the end that you lube up and you fill the little blue ball with water.
00:12:54
Jon McCray Jones
And then you lube the um white plastic tip up, squeeze the water inside of you and then flush it out. Like you like sit the toilet and flush it out. Um, that one kind of hurts because it's such a little piece of plastic. Yeah.
00:13:10
Jon McCray Jones
And it's almost like it's stabbing you. Um, do not use that one. If you're in a pinch, if you have to use it, if that's all you have, fine. I've been in that situation. um but, um, the two options that are the best one is the, I'll start with the best option.
00:13:26
Jon McCray Jones
You're going to want to get it's called a shower shot or you can get like a removable shower head. And it essentially looks like it's kind of in the shape of like a small dildo shape like a and um it you can uh detach your shower head attach this and it has holes at the end so that when the water's coming through it'll shoot like water directly into use. So you can lube it up.
00:13:50
Jon McCray Jones
You want to use a good lube, a silicone-based lube, not water-based, because that'll tear your butthole. um But um you want to use a good silicone lube, lube yourself up, go in there with that.
00:14:02
Jon McCray Jones
And then you want to fill yourself up with water. Now, in this situation with that, ah the shower shot, it can be quite powerful and it can really fill up a lot of your intestines with ah water and you might end up having to clean out longer.
00:14:17
Jon McCray Jones
So um I will explain when I talk about the next device. But if you use this device, I've had moments where um there was still a lot more water in there. And when I was having fun and then penis comes out and oh, there's a bunch of water. And oh, yeah. And at first everyone's like, oh, and then they're like, oh, it was just because I used the shower shot and I didn't wait long enough.
00:14:40
Jon McCray Jones
Because sometimes when you are when you are douching, there will still be water in there. you want to give yourself, I'd say, about 22, sometimes 40 minutes. I've had to take an hour before when I wasn't following my own rules I just told you, where my diet wasn't good and I was not having a high fiber intake.
00:14:59
Jon McCray Jones
um You have to be prepared for that. And you want to make sure all of the water is out of you and all the water is clear. It's not ah yellow or any sort of brown color.
00:15:11
Jon McCray Jones
There are no little flecks and pieces of things in it. You want it to be clear. And that is when you are ready to go. Awesome. Yeah. Such a helpful tip. Thank you. Oh, and the third device. so one that um If you do not have removable shower head um and one that you can take traveling with you, it is it looks like though the enema that you can get from Walgreens, but it is much better. And it's curved for your anus.
00:15:36
Jon McCray Jones
And ah it's larger. it's um It's black. You can honestly, like, i don't want to support Amazon. But, like, if you go to a sex shop, like, your local, like, they will have yeah devices that look like this um if you want to shop local um and small business. But it's black. it has a longer and thicker curved end that screws on.
00:15:58
Jon McCray Jones
And it has holes at the end where the water comes out. That one I really like. um That one's great for vacations or if you want to, like, you're dating someone or you're going to an event and you want to clean out there, you can bring that one along.
00:16:11
Jon McCray Jones
it's It's very affordable, very easy to use. Honestly, that's the best one. And it doesn't penetrate so high up into your intestines where you're shooting water out of your body like 40 minutes later an hour later. That one, it'll stop at a certain point.
00:16:26
Jon McCray Jones
So yes, that's I want to make sure I cover all three of those because those I feel like are the three most common ones people use. um Some people will use, i have heard, They will use a water bottle, like literally a plastic water bottle because they've been desperate.
00:16:39
Jon McCray Jones
I would avoid that. You don't want to tear your butthole, but, you do what you can do. Oh, God. Yeah. I've heard stories. I've heard stories. Yeah. So... you know check out some shops before we do the water bottle but yes yes yes you want to yeah you want to be prepared if this is i'm assuming most of you this to be your first time this is not like you're out at some festival and listen i i'm a drag queen i've seen things i've seen things you know you're in the woods at some you know like desperate times yeah yeah things the stories are fun
00:17:16
Jon McCray Jones
All right so one of the biggest pieces of but ah advice as I've been like researching this and getting into it is lube.
Lubricants and Comfort in Anal Sex
00:17:25
Jon McCray Jones
The most important thing is lube.
00:17:27
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. what is your advice with that? Is there a particular kind you should go for and everything to do with lube? Yes. Lube is your best friend. um You can't have too much lube during anal.
00:17:41
Jon McCray Jones
Some people will try to be like, oh, I can just spit at no. um I mean, it's fine if you can handle that, but like I personally, that is not for me.
00:17:52
Jon McCray Jones
um Your anus is not self-lubricating. If someone says that they are wet, that they are self-lubricated, then they need to go see a doctor. There's something wrong with um the lining of your anus.
00:18:04
Jon McCray Jones
um That is time to go see a doctor. um My favorite lube. So when I was younger and more broke, I used coconut oil. Okay. It actually worked quite well.
00:18:16
Jon McCray Jones
um That was advice I got from a friend. But as I, then I dated someone in my 20s who was in their 30s and he introduced me to my favorite, which is Swiss Navy. Okay. It can be on the pricier side, but Swiss Navy silicone lube changed my life.
00:18:33
Jon McCray Jones
I remember him just like few pumps, put it on himself and it was like the most seamless, painless, oh my God. It was like the gates of heaven opened up and I could like hear angels. it was I was like, what is that? I need it. And he's like, you've never seen this before. I'm like, no, I'm 23 years old. I have not seen this before. And yeah, Swiss Navy changed my life. It's my personal favorite, silicone.
00:18:59
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. That is so good to know. As somebody where I'm a bit of a condesore of big dicks, I will really have to give that a try. Yeah. for I do not have a vagina, so vaginally I do not know which lubes are the best.
00:19:13
Jon McCray Jones
hu um But for anal, you do not want anything water-based because um your anus is very sensitive and it is prone to tears and you do not want any sort of fissure. or tear or um you do not want to um fast forward getting hemorrhoids yeah an issue so yes um silicone lube lots of it water is not enough if you're in like the tub or you're in the shower you're having fun you i keep i keep my lube in the shower yeah i usually um you know it's sometimes easier to do in the shower um
00:19:49
Jon McCray Jones
But yeah, you want to like keep it there or if you're having shower sex, keep some lube there. Yeah. Um, yeah, because you need it. Oh, also, um, yes, you want to put it on whatever other object, phallus toy that you're putting inside yourself.
00:20:06
Jon McCray Jones
You also want to lube your hole first as well. So you put some lube on the hole. Also like, um, to start, you can like, um, either finger yourself or they can finger you and like they can put lube in, like they can lube up their fingers, get the inside lubed up too. then both, both parties are lubed and then it'll make it so much easier.
00:20:27
Jon McCray Jones
It really does. That is such a good piece of advice. I learned that from Courtney Act, one of my favorite drag queens. Yeah. Oh my god She calls it like her technique, but I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's been around for a while. Yeah.
00:20:40
Jon McCray Jones
I'm sure the gays figured it out lot ago. oh yeah. Yeah.
Anal Sex Positions and Pleasure
00:20:44
Jon McCray Jones
All right. So let's talk positions. What are some good ones to try? Are there any that you would just not recommend?
00:20:52
Jon McCray Jones
So based on the curve of, well, okay, actually, let me let me start over. So for me, I have a prostate. And when it comes to anal, my prostate, it's really not that far into my body.
00:21:05
Jon McCray Jones
And That's why I'm also not a size queen because really i can feel it and I can gain pleasure quite easily because it's pretty close to the entrance. It's pretty close to the entrance for me.
00:21:17
Jon McCray Jones
um and And I'll talk about some of my friends who've told me people who do not have a G-spot. how they um have maneuvered and worked to um make sure that their spot is getting hit okay as well.
00:21:31
Jon McCray Jones
But from my perspective, I personally prefer, um i love to ride, like sit on a dick at cowgirl. If the dick curves up like in this direction, if it curves up like this, um I find missionary feels very good in that position.
00:21:52
Jon McCray Jones
um cowgirl reverse cowgirl can be very fun in that position once you like work your way up and then turn around um and then honestly it depends with that person what else works Doggy can be difficult with that because if you think about how your anus works, it's going to curve.
00:22:13
Jon McCray Jones
Like it's going, if you're, if you're laying on your stomach, your anus is going to curve more this way. And if a dick is curving this way, it's going to, it's not, it's not in the direction of the prostate. The prostate's going down this way.
00:22:25
Jon McCray Jones
And it's, it for me, its it's not as pleasurable unless the dick curves down. doggy a lot of fun. a lot of fun yeah And because then you're hitting the prostate from that angle going down.
00:22:40
Jon McCray Jones
um So really you want to follow the curve of the dick and know that your prostate is like, if your balls are here, it's like right behind there.
00:22:52
Jon McCray Jones
And if a dick is coming in, you want it to hit that outside right there. Yeah. Oh, and then I was talking about, um For someone who doesn't have a prostate, right?
00:23:05
Jon McCray Jones
So obviously this ah is only hearsay, but um I have heard from friends it ah it helps to have um something in inserted vaginally oh okay to so hold one side of so one side of the one side of that wall and then to be but uh analyze so that penetrated analyze so that it rubs like up against it so it's causing yeah like you're getting that sensation that stimulation that's what i've heard i don't know if it's true um if you know please comment yeah if that works for you please comment yeah please let us know think that makes sense yeah that's um that's a technique that i've heard works for my friends who really enjoy it awesome yeah
00:24:00
Jon McCray Jones
All right.
Using Toys for Anal Training
00:24:01
Jon McCray Jones
And then something I've been trying is training with more toys. So do you have any advice for that? If there's like good toys to start with, what that process is kind of like?
00:24:14
Jon McCray Jones
I don't use as many toys. um But one thing I do enjoy that actually is quite nice um before someone comes over or like before you end up like having anal sex is um i like a butt plug.
00:24:31
Jon McCray Jones
hu um because it sits there and like for me I have a prostate so it you know kind of like as you move like you can wear a butt plug and then wear a thong and the thong will like hold it there yeah because it can't come out because the thong is like in between and um and that can keep you open and keep that um keep you kind of like you can relax a bit more because it's there and also it can stimulate a little bit. I like butt plugs.
00:24:58
Jon McCray Jones
um I don't have a lot of experience with like anal beads or any like larger toys. um I haven't used a lot of vibration, like vibrating toys, but I have used to them like externally, like wherever.
00:25:16
Jon McCray Jones
the like taint is that can be kind of fun but unfortunately not like a toy expert yeah but i have but i have uh been pegged a few times in um you want to use a toy that can work with silicone lube yes yes because you don't want to don't want to mess with anything you don't destroy it yeah you want it to work with silicone lube you also want to make sure it has that like Wide bottom.
00:25:44
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. Oh, yes. So i can't. So that you it doesn't just go up. Yeah. Yeah. ah You've heard nightmares about people losing things in their buttholes. um Yes. ah You want something that plugs it.
00:25:56
Jon McCray Jones
So an anal toy will have like a like whatever the say this is the width of the toy that you're playing with. At the end, the base will be a significant difference so that you can't just suck it up into your body and lose it.
00:26:12
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. Yes. So when I talk about a butt plug, often like i have they kind of have a shape like this, and then the base is larger. So then it stays there right where like it.
00:26:22
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah. And holds it holds it in there. And it um and then obviously so it doesn't fall out ah because you don't want it to fall out. um I suggest a thong to hold it in. Yeah, and I think if you're you're brand new to this, solo play and exploring on your own with toys and that sort of thing is really helpful.
00:26:41
Jon McCray Jones
Just getting comfortable um and getting more comfortable with that sensation of having something there yeah before you know, trying with a partner or anything like that. Yeah.
00:26:52
Jon McCray Jones
See if you can just go very slow and see how much, because honestly, it's not a race. Yes. Just if you can only get a little bit in there your first time, Hey, you can work your way up. I trust me.
00:27:10
Jon McCray Jones
I've had to work my way up to where I'm at now. And uh, and it, My butthole thanks me. I can, you know, I've had no tears. Well, that was a really helpful piece of advice I found on Reddit was like when you're inserting a plug, literally try going like comically slow. Oh, so slow.
00:27:32
Jon McCray Jones
you Think you're going slow, go even slower. yeah if you're like moving up to the next size or something like that. Absolutely. And like even when i'm um like, even when I'm with someone, i will have them just start like, especially if they have a larger penis, start with just a few inches of it.
00:27:53
Jon McCray Jones
And then I hold it in, wait till I relax a little bit. See if they can get a little bit more, hold it relax a little bit. And then slowly until eventually it's, you know, completely in.
00:28:05
Jon McCray Jones
And then from there, i still like will ask like, hey, can I just hold it in here for a moment? And that can also just feel really good just having it inside there because it presses against that spot. And then they can start moving once you get more comfortable and once you relax, which is another component.
00:28:22
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. Yes. Relaxing is a big thing. If you are really tense and in your head about it, you will clench. Yes. And that is going to make it painful.
00:28:32
Jon McCray Jones
ahha And the the less you clench, the less you โ the more you're relaxed, it's going to be so much more fun. ahha Yes. Yeah.
Safety and Health in Anal Sex
00:28:43
Jon McCray Jones
so another really important topic, sexual health and doing this all safely. What would be your advice for people to make sure they take care of themselves in this?
00:28:54
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. So your anus is a mucous membrane. um For example, so I'm on a medication called PrEP. Well, it's Truvada, but everyone calls it PrEP pre-exposure prophylaxis.
00:29:08
Jon McCray Jones
And what that does is it um it changes the chemical composition of the mucous membrane in your body to not absorb but um the virus for Right.
00:29:21
Jon McCray Jones
So that's something that I do personally. i think if you are an LGBTQ person, especially someone who is MLM or MSM, or you are someone who is having sex with um someone who is having sex with men, you And that is one way that is a great preventative of SCIs, especially if you are having unprotected sex, which I'm not um saying you should be doing, but if you are, that is one you...
00:29:54
Jon McCray Jones
you definitely should have is, is taking prep. um If you need help with that, um send them to me. yeah If you're in the DMS, I will help you, especially in Illinois.
00:30:06
Jon McCray Jones
There are ways to get it for free. yeah um Yes. And with certain insurances, I don't pay anything. Yeah, I don't think my partner does either. um There's a lot of different providers and there's also different ways like you can do the shot where you only have to go in. There's new stuff that's very exciting. Yeah. um I know some people who are doing the injectable prep and they enjoy it because they don't miss doses.
00:30:31
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah, that's what my partner does. So like you don't have to remember taking a pill every day and like worry about the effectiveness. He just goes in. I think it's like every three to four months. That's incredible.
00:30:43
Jon McCray Jones
Honestly, yeah I hope if that is and the future for me because that sounds wonderful. Yeah. Oh, and if you are taking prep, you will need to make sure you go check with your doctor. You're getting going to need labs every three months to make sure that um your kidney liver functions are good. But that's just me being nerdy about medical stuff.
00:31:03
Jon McCray Jones
um Okay. Other health things. Okay. Again, ah you want to avoid tears going slow. you do not want any fissures.
00:31:14
Jon McCray Jones
um Again, you do not need the biggest, longest dick to go ah you know through your entire large, ah you fold your anus, your large intestine. and like You're good if you just stay in the anus. Start slow, work your way up.
00:31:32
Jon McCray Jones
If you want to get into things like fisting or any sort of, if you want to get into size play, just go slow.
00:31:43
Jon McCray Jones
It's not a race. feel like I keep saying that, but I yeah can't emphasize it enough. um If you are worried about, for example, um like,
00:31:55
Jon McCray Jones
Colon cancer, prostate cancer. So there are certain strains of HPV. um If you were not able to get Gardasil at a certain age or a certain time, HPV is very commonly spread and it can it can happen anally. And you can get like anal warts and things like that. um You need to find a good proctologist or colorectal surgeon who can do like an anal pap.
00:32:24
Jon McCray Jones
much like a vaginal pap smear. Um, and so that they can test to make sure that, um, you have no cancerous cells. That's just something that, um, I have some friends who have, uh, who go, you can go every year.
00:32:38
Jon McCray Jones
and then if, if they don't find anything after a certain amount of time, you go every two years, things like that. Um, you want to make sure you're just checking with your health. If anything seems off, if you, you see any blood in your stool, if, or any pain, um,
00:32:54
Jon McCray Jones
ah talk Talk to your doctor because that you shouldn't, um blood should not be happening whatsoever. um Yeah. That means either you might have a tear or there might be something else, but just talk to your doctor.
00:33:08
Jon McCray Jones
Yes. Always check in always get your regular exams and checkups and everything. Yeah. And yeah, really consider getting on prep as well. Yes. such you know once you're able to find a provider and make sure like your insurance covers it it's really such an easy thing to do and it really yeah yeah it's amazing and if um if you're an lgbtq person here in chicago we have um Howard Brown Health.
00:33:35
Jon McCray Jones
That's where I go through. um i know people have their, some people love it. Some people hate it. luckily have a good provider there. um But um if you do not have insurance, I know that is difficult for some people. They have sliding scale um and they will make accommodations for you if you do not have insurance.
00:33:55
Jon McCray Jones
um So yeah, just, just throw it out there. Yeah.
Final Advice and Cautions
00:34:00
Jon McCray Jones
All right. Well, I think you've just about covered anything. Any closing words you'd like to give the listeners?
00:34:08
Jon McCray Jones
Oh, um there are lubes that um say like they're like they have a numbing component. um Do not use those because your body, if you are in pain, that's your body saying something's wrong.
00:34:21
Jon McCray Jones
And if you cannot feel it, you might end up with what I mentioned before, a tear or... Who knows? A fissure. um So do not use ah those numbing lubes. I am so grateful that what i I did, unfortunately, buy one when I was first starting.
00:34:39
Jon McCray Jones
And um luckily, i didn't nothing bad happened. But I was quickly told, do not use that anymore. Throw that out. um Because you you need to be able to feel what's going on in your body. You don't want to be numb to this. You want to enjoy it.
00:34:51
Jon McCray Jones
Yeah, enjoy it. Listen to your body. um Take things slow. Go slow. Yeah. um And ah fiber.
00:35:03
Jon McCray Jones
Fiber. Yeah. Yes. Yes. All fiber. All the fiber. Yeah. think that's I think that's everything I've got. All right. Yeah. Happy bottoming. Happy anal to all of you. I hope to hear some fun stories. Like I tried it and it was so much fun or I don't know. Yeah. I can't wait to hear like I want to i want to hit like see the DMs that you get after this.
00:35:25
Jon McCray Jones
Give us all the details guys. Yes. Well thank you so much Alex. Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me. This was so fun. This time like flew by so fast. Yes it really did When you're talking about anal. You're talking about one of my favorite things.
00:35:41
Jon McCray Jones
all right well you guys next week thanks for listening bye