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This Month’s Pinball Market Jan 2025 | Stern's Spike 2
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This month we analyze the overall market and focus on the direction of Spike 2s
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Introduction and Market Segmentation
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My Blazer's back.
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I've got my notes.
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This is this month's Pinball Market.
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All righty.
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So...
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I didn't realize how segmented the pinball market is when it comes to the used market.
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I'm trying to do my own analytics of the used market, and I decided it's best to segment this because there's just so much information.
Community and Sponsor Shoutouts
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I want to give a shout out to Pinball Prices.
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They did a great job.
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I want to give a shout out to Pinside.
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I also want to give a shout out to our sponsor, Flippin' Out Pinball, Zach and Nicole Many.
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We've got new games on the horizon.
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Dungeons and Dragons was just announced.
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So if you're looking for that game, hit up Zach and Nicole Many.
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They'll give you the best deal.
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Also, Silver Ball Swag.
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Check it out.
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SilverbrowSwag.com slash Loserkid.
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We've got plenty of products there, and new swag is on the way.
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All right, let's just jump into some of the facts that's going on right now as we speak.
Impact of Game Vaulting on Market Value
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CERN just announced their new vault program.
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No, that means they're not going to be doing the old vaults that they brought back.
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That means they're taking games and putting them in a vault, so that way we can't...
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they were not going to be making them anymore at this point for at least two years.
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What this means to you in the used market is these games they announced are more than likely going to go up in value over, over the market over time.
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These are amazing games like Iron Maiden, Elvira, Star Wars.
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And after I get to some of these numbers, you're going to be a little baffled.
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Like, why are they doing this?
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But,
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Stern.
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It might be a brilliant move.
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It may not.
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We'll see what happens.
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So I want to go on record
Current Buyer’s Market Overview
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with that.
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Roughly there are 70 games being added to pin side or other markets daily.
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So there's, it's still a buyer's market.
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We're seeing plenty of great deals pop up right now.
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Like I said,
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the market's very segmented at this point.
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It's, it's, it's kind of weird.
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Let's, let's talk
Value Depreciation in Stern Spike Two Games
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spike two.
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Okay.
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Stern spike two.
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I've got the numbers right here going over for, so from the end of 2023 to the end of 2024, overall percentage wise, Stern spike twos are down 9.8%.
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And it's showing as,
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Early as a game release, they dip in value.
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So if you want to get the most bang for your buck, it seems like getting these early games, but used.
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So, you know, your John Wicks, your Venoms, that stuff right now, those are seeing the biggest dip right now.
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But as time goes on, as they stop producing these games, those numbers tend to go up over time.
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And what I say by that is like looking at like Deadpool.
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I know that Deadpool is one of the games that just announced that they're not going to be making anymore.
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But if you bought a Deadpool L.E.,
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At launch, it is up 40% from when it launched.
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That's right.
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They're selling around 12.5 right now.
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You've got to kind of look at his investment.
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Looking at these notes, it's pretty much read up until Rush Pro.
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Then once we start getting past that, like Stranger Things, we see a trend of up with a couple different anomalies.
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There's a couple games I'm going to point out.
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So the three that have done the worst over the span of five years.
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So I've done in the last five years because...
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When we get to Ballet Williams, I'm not going to compare to games that were released back in 92 because inflation rate was entirely different.
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They sold at a different rate.
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And so it's hard to look at that.
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So I'm going for pre-COVID, which was the end of 2019, to now.
Analysis of Underperforming Games
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I think that gives us a good idea because the pinball market was still on an up trajectory.
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for the previous decade of that.
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So honestly, the worst, the worst game right now, the game you don't want to own is bond 60th.
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Grant, this game was sold at 20 K when it first came out.
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And it was one of those kind of like subject to what the dealer wants to do.
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Right.
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Right now over the last year is dropped 20% of its value.
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And the,
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in the whole scheme of things when, since it's released, because it's been less than five years, we're down 35%.
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This is a game that it's only trending down.
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So I don't know if you want to touch it.
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And then the, the next one that is trending down as well is bond L E, which is kind of a,
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I don't know if it's the game.
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People are loving this game.
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The code came out.
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It's doing great, right?
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So Bond LE over the past year has dropped 15% in the grand scheme of things.
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It is down 28% since its release.
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And the last one, this one kind of threw me for a loop.
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Elvira 40th.
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This game originally released at about 25K over last year, 32% down.
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And overall, 35% down.
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All right.
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You know, I know you want to know the numbers of the games that you want to buy, the ones that are seeing upgrowth, right?
Games with Increasing Value
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So as I'm going through this, this is going to kind of shock you.
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So my third best right now.
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Munsters LE.
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If you bought this game when it first came out at $8,000, granted, you know, that's $5,000 less than what they are now.
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If you bought this at $8,000, you today would be sitting around $11,600.
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That means it's up 29% from when it released.
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It still is down 19% from last year, but you're still up if you're at that point.
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looking at games that are still going up in value, Beatles Gold over the life, just this last year, it's went up 3%.
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It is down 15% from when it originally released.
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So what that tells me is we're still seeing growth in this pinball machine.
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It may be down from when you originally bought it.
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So if you bought this out the gate, you might be in a little trouble.
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But if you bought it in the last year, you're still good.
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You're probably not going to lose value.
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You're probably going to trade straight across your value on that one, right?
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This is one of the games they just announced.
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Star Wars Comic Pro.
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it's up 10% from last year and it's still flat across from when it released.
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So that means we're still seeing growth in this one.
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You're still good to go on that one.
Aerosmith Premium's ROI Surge
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The one that really shocked me, this game, if you own it right now, it might be time to sell because overall the market's trending down, right?
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We're seeing that over this past year, as I look at it, we're down 10% on spikes.
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On JJP, we're down 10%.
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And Valley Williams aren't as bad.
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They look like they're down about 3%.
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I have to adjust some of those numbers.
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Guys, I've been trying to adjust these numbers and go through them.
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There's a lot to digest here.
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I won't even have market deals this time because there's just a wealth of information I've been digging into.
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But let's get back to the spike twos.
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The game that shocks me, Aerosmith Premium.
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Aerosmith Premium.
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It is up 15% from last year.
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So it is now, people are selling this around 12K.
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It's up 15%.
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And if you bought this one originally came out at $6,500, imagine this, a premium for $6,500, you would be up 52% of your investment.
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So Aerosmith premium, Aerosmiths aren't bad as they seem to be retaining their value.
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So when the media day happened last May,
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And we were speculating, well, there's Erosmith side cabinet arts and stuff on the ground.
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I mean, Stern knows what they're doing.
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They're trying to see what's going on with the market.
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So, okay, those are your six games.
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So three bad, three good.
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For Spike 2, like I said, I'm just, we're gonna be going over the numbers over these next months.
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I'm gonna try to focus on per
Jersey Jack's Market Influence
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category.
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So this month I wanna do Spike 2 by Stern.
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especially with the release of Drensions and Dragons on the horizon.
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I just think it gives us a good indicator where the modern market is going, but it gives us an idea.
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Stern has such a long history, right?
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We're 25 years at this point.
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So they give us a good idea of what's happened with the market over the last 25 years and where the market is going.
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I do want to give this a, this little tidbit because I did Jersey Jack numbers and overall they're up 10% in value.
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if you leave Pirates of the Caribbean in those numbers.
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But if you take Pirates of the Caribbean out, it drops to negative 13% on your investment.
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So some of these games, some of these numbers have very big anomalies.
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And it's amazing that Pirates of the Caribbean can give it a 23 point swing.
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That is insane.
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So again, I wanna thank you all for
Conclusion and Audience Engagement
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tuning in.
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This was a smash hit.
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I'm excited to see where these other numbers go.
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Hopefully that gets you going for the next month of where you want to buy.
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Looking at Spikes, Spike 2s, looking at JJPs.
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Man, that's not it.
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Honestly, Valley Williams are looking really great right now.
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And there is one.
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on that list that has absolutely shocked me.
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But that is for next time.
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Like I said, Silver Ball swag.
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Get some of the stuff.
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Also, flipping out pinball.
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Get that Dungeons and Dragons.
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Is Harry Potter on the way?
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Don't know.
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Better hit up and get on that list.
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And for my final words, just remember, pinball is only worth what someone's willing to pay.
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Thank you.