Transcript
Chris: Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe Podcast. I'm Chris.
SirRonthePoor: And I'm Ron.
Chris: Goddamn this died. I'm putting in a help ticket.
SirRonthePoor: Are you enjoying your Maycember weather?
Chris: Oh my God. What? I looked at my phone this morning and it said it was, don't know, like 65 outside. So, I threw on a hoodie with my shorts and walked outside and it was like, it felt like it was 80.
Chris: So I don't know if I just caught an area that didn't have the wind it was direct sun, but yeah, it was nice.
SirRonthePoor: We went to the store. It was nice. Got to the store. Coming out of the store, it was windy and cold. was like, what the f*** is going on?
Chris: Ooh. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I refuse to bow down. I put my hoodies away. They're gone for the year. Until the fall.
Chris: oof yeah I always keep hoodies, like at least one downstairs.
SirRonthePoor: Put your winter stuff away. Pretend like you're doing something useful.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: ah yeah those I And we, the rain we got didn't do anything for us. So.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. We got so much rain up here. It's just so crazy that, yeah and it's not something really, but the two weather systems are so separate and then not they're separated by less than 100 miles.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: yeah We get completely different systems.
Chris: It's nuts. Yeah, you're right. It's like that you draw a line from like Easton to Dover. And that's the line.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: But yeah.
SirRonthePoor: were We're sitting here going, there's no drought up here.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: we've not hurt We've not had a burn ban.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: I think Delaware now just has a permanent burn ban from May 1st to September 31st. I think.
Chris: Probably not a bad idea. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I think it's just a permanent thing now.
SirRonthePoor: It's not You know, really enforced by a little.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And you still have a lot of your fire pits and campfires and stuff, you know.
Chris: oh yeah that's it what we no one should be doing that yeah yeah yeah i can't imagine trying to explain to somebody like you know well you know yeah here's your house and here's your backyard that's where you can put your burn barrel
SirRonthePoor: But we also don't let you burn trash and shit in our town in our county, so.
SirRonthePoor: No, no, they shouldn't.
SirRonthePoor: There's your pit that you burn your trash in.
Chris: so what are we in medieval times i mean
Chris: ah
SirRonthePoor: have to pay $40 a quarter for them to take my grass cupings away now.
Chris: Really?
SirRonthePoor: oh yeah. There you they crack down, because we'd landfills, and they're like, don't put, I don't want that in there, so, ah i mean, I don't have to pay it, I could take it to the place myself, but, you know, I'm too lazy.
SirRonthePoor: So,
Chris: Well, I mean, also, I mean, you could use it as mulch. you could
SirRonthePoor: so what they do for ours is they take it to a site, they make the mulch, and then you can come pick up the mulch.
Chris: Oh, that's nice.
SirRonthePoor: You don't have to do it at your yard, which kind nice.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Also trying to get rid of most mulch in my house
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: it doesn't look nice i don't know why we've like yeah it looks nice for like the first week you lay it out and then it just for the rest of you you're like oh look all the weeds are growing through it looks like crap i don't why like it's become this disease in america that everybody has to have mulch everywhere and it's it just doesn't look good
Chris: No. It looks nice for like a day.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Let's say I looked the other day, my neighbors have like 15 bags of mulch stacked in front of their garage. I'm like, OK, you going to spread it?
SirRonthePoor: Right, like, it's Danny or Jude, what are you doing?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, we we're actually having some landscaping done and pulling all of the mulch out just replacing it river rock.
Chris: Nice.
SirRonthePoor: Being done with it. i A, because the cats. both Fucking cats.
Chris: Oh, yeah, they'll probably just hit keep them from
SirRonthePoor: And because... Oh, they... think they
Chris: Yeah, using in it as a litter box.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, it'll stop them from using litter box. They fucking lay in the mulch. They tear it up, move it around. Stupid cats.
Chris: Well, it sounds like you need to get well, just yeah let Moxie take care of them.
SirRonthePoor: She doesn't anymore. it says that doesn't care. they don't in the backyard. They only go in the front yard.
Chris: Get an anaconda.
SirRonthePoor: Uh-oh.
Chris: Hold on. but There we go. We're back. Yeah, we had a blip in the matrix.
SirRonthePoor: No.
Chris: yeah Yeah, get an anaconda to take care of the cats.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And then I'm going to need a bear to take care of the anaconda. Where does it end? I'm
Chris: um
SirRonthePoor: i'm just to get of a rock. And...
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: It's good for stopping wildfires or spreading your house.
Chris: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
SirRonthePoor: i mean, not that that's a thing I worry about too much in my neighborhood.
Chris: Yeah. Let's say, are you worried about wildfires?
SirRonthePoor: but
SirRonthePoor: No, no.
Chris: Okay. Just checking.
SirRonthePoor: But I am worried about the cats shitting in my front yard all
Chris: ah yeah Yeah, that's a big thing. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah, which I don't know. the wife and I were trying to figure it out yesterday. know I have to replace them, but the little ramp that goes up to my shed, one of the boards was ripped out and flipped over.
SirRonthePoor: It's a ghost.
Chris: was like, did i did I have a honey badger try to get under the shed? i mean, what the hell? So of course I asked the kids, I'm like, did you mess with that? And they're like why the hell would we mess with that?
Chris: So yeah. Yeah. Now I'm looking at the dogs. I'm like, did you do this? And they're like, no, no.
SirRonthePoor: even have a ramp for my shit. I just lift my lawnmower up like a mane.
Chris: That's what I'm going to start doing.
SirRonthePoor: It's just just easier.
Chris: I need to redo my shit anyway.
SirRonthePoor: wow, I'm getting a new shed to have as a second shed. And my brother's like, how many sheds do you need? I'm like, well, apparently I need two. Like I'm living the high life because I got two sheds.
Chris: thing.
SirRonthePoor: I'm moving all my e-bikes and stuff out of my house.
Chris: that's that's a good thing
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: Yeah, that's what we, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: It's going cost me some money.
Chris: Well, we, and we just, you know, paid to have the down stores downstairs reef downstairs refloored.
SirRonthePoor: stores.
Chris: So that's yeah. Downstores. Yeah. So we have nice new, it it looks beautiful.
SirRonthePoor: It has your reflore go.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah?
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Did you get, like,
Chris: Especially since we had to get a new water heater also.
SirRonthePoor: did you get the hardwood laminate put in?
Chris: It's the yeah LVP or whatever. i don't know. But the thing with that is where it's, and I don't know, shorter or whatever than the hardwood was.
Chris: So now I have these gaps.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, all the baseball caps. Ugh.
Chris: Yeah. So I mean, they put corn around around a lot of it to close it up, which looks fine. But like where the door trim comes down, there's like gaps there. So we got to I'm probably going have to redo all the molding.
SirRonthePoor: It's a never-ending process of suck.
Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Just for the rest of your life, your house is just going to be one more part.
Chris: which
Chris: It's just, oh, yeah, yeah, because already it was. Yeah, i like the color. But now the banister looks different. Oh, my god.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, God.
Chris: god And that you know will tie into the upstairs. it's yeah Like you said, it just it's just if you give a mouse a cookie kind of thing.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, boy. I know.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: oh that's okay because we're getting a we have a large picture window that's original to the house single pane not an energy efficient doesn't open so we're finally breaking down and getting it replaced because the poor guy comes in he's like well what
Chris: yeah
Chris: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: how old is this thing? I'm like, 50 years? I don't know. It's like, it's really good shape. I'm like, yeah, but it's 50 years old.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: So we get to
Chris: Yeah. Yeah, I can taste the lead coming out of it, sir.
SirRonthePoor: the whole process, whole process. It takes three hours the other day. I was so, the guy's like, oh, it'll be like a 30 minute thing and we'll be done. It was three hours.
Chris: How the hell did it take three hours? You measure it and you're done.
SirRonthePoor: oh he measured it and then he had to remeasure it well then because it's an odd size it couldn't there were so every option we wanted we're like you can't do this you have to do this you can't do this one you gotta to do this ah it was like annoying so we get it all done three hours pay our money it's a lot of money a lot of money when he told me how much one window was i knew i was in trouble you
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: you will never guess what one window costs from this company which is a higher end window company one no no no thirty three hundred dollars a window thirty three hundred don't think so and he was like yeah we we should probably look at other windows i said
Chris: one window? Yeah, probably $2,000.
Chris: Jesus. Oh my god.
Chris: What?
Chris: Are they voice activated?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Nah, I think we're going to stick with the one. Because that one's going to cost me three windows worth.
Chris: yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: So anyways, we finish all of this. Come up with the plan. My wife wakes up the next morning. I'm just not sure about that. Like, are you kidding me?
Chris: oh my god did you punch her immediately yeah oh gosh yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: Because we have... It's like we have 72 hours to cancel it. So if you want to cancel it, you have to make a decision now.
SirRonthePoor: And picture window, to replace our... So we're replacing it with three double-hung windows.
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: But to replace it with a picture window, which has less moving parts, would cost more money.
Chris: why that doesn't make any sense yeah yeah yeah you could have sashes and pulleys and don't know things latches and what the hell
SirRonthePoor: i don't Explain that to me. I don't understand. Yeah. He's like, what's more glass? I'm like, yeah, but the glass is the cheap part. It's all the other crap that you got to do.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And things.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: What's it? Yeah, it's.
SirRonthePoor: My wife got done and I'm like, think about this way. We'll be able to clean the damn thing. Because right now, you can't clean it. You have from the outside.
Chris: Hmm. Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My wife is like, oh, yeah. Do you like the color in this? I'm like, yeah, it's great. i yeah I don't know. It's I just it's floor. That's all I care about.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And know we have to have our floor done, and it is the project I least ever want to think about.
Chris: Hmm. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Because I have hardwood all through my stairs.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: And if you're going to do it, you have to do it all.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Because you'll have weird lines otherwise.
Chris: Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I can tell you, Matt, the carpet guy, stands behind his work. So yeah, he does.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah? Thank you.
Chris: he He came out Friday to address a couple of concerns we had. So he himself came out, Matt, the carpet guy.
SirRonthePoor: I don't think Matt the Carver Guy comes to my house.
Chris: They do Delaware. They
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, they say Delaware. They don't mean the whole state.
Chris: just mean the slower, lower.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, yeah. But still, i'm not I have to like move out of my house, basically, to do my floor.
Chris: yeah yeah yeah cut it in half okay you just nail it back together
SirRonthePoor: And I don't know how to get the bed out.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, but then I don't have a bed.
SirRonthePoor: just mail my phone mattress back together.
Chris: oh yeah you get a foam mattress you just glue it yeah well it came in a small box you should be able to put it back in a small box
SirRonthePoor: yeah yeah it did come in a small box and i don't think i can put it back in a small box yeah i told them i was like if we ever do this we're just gonna live in the ah rv for like a month while they do the work
Chris: Hey, yeah, yeah.
Chris: Yeah, that's probably the easiest. Yep.
SirRonthePoor: so that's that's future plans all my plans are future plans
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, I think we lost Chris again.
Chris: Yeah, that's like hooking things back up yesterday. i found there's an extra HDMI cable coming off my TV that I have no idea where it's supposed to go.
SirRonthePoor: Where'd we lose me?
SirRonthePoor: Hello?
Chris: Like I got done, I'm like, okay, the Blu-ray player is hooked up.
SirRonthePoor: Zencaster?
Chris: The Switch is hooked up.
SirRonthePoor: Hello?
Chris: The Fire Stick's hooked up. Where does this go? So I just tucked it back in the wall.
Chris: Oh no, I lost Ron.
SirRonthePoor: think going to restart it.
Chris: Yeah, went into our restart. Stupid technology. ah Yeah, so houses are fun.
SirRonthePoor: but Are we still recording? I don't... I can't...
Chris: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still recording. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, technical delivery, folks. Sorry about that. The whole thing went down. Well, I guess...
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Oh,
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: ah big
Chris: Sure, yeah, let's go to topic one.
SirRonthePoor: boy, we lost everything. Boy, this is more of a ah me self-own. I don't know. Did you even realize that the Mandalorian movie was out?
Chris: Yes, but
SirRonthePoor: Okay.
Chris: Yeah, i was I was thinking about going last weekend, but maybe this weekend. i don't know. But then it's, know, my wife's like, oh, you should go. You like Star Wars. I'm like, but it's going to the movies.
SirRonthePoor: Right. I legitimately didn't know it was out in theaters. didn't I knew it was coming out this year. I had no clue that it was out. I think I've lost touch.
Chris: Well, it's not. that way I think it's also... I mean, the media you're taking in you know, you know, I think most of the advertisements in all now are, you know, social media and things.
Chris: So it's,
SirRonthePoor: And as a my lack of social media is, I guess I just don't see it anymore.
Chris: yeah, I blame your wife.
SirRonthePoor: It's kind of nice.
Chris: She should have let you know. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: She should have let me know. I also didn't know that there was a Spider Noir movie.
Chris: Oh, is it a movie or a series?
SirRonthePoor: Oh, I don't know. It has Nicolas Cage in it. I assumed it was a movie.
Chris: Yeah, it's yeah, because it's on Disney Plus.
SirRonthePoor: clue.
SirRonthePoor: No clue.
Chris: Yeah. i Yeah. i A buddy of mine was talking about it. I was like, I don't know. Nick Cage being Nick Cage. I just.
SirRonthePoor: but didn't get to play Superman, so i it play Spider-Man.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. but Just inevitably you can watch it in black and white or in color.
SirRonthePoor: Oh!
Chris: yeah so yeah and you can like flip it on the fly it's like yeah i don't know i'm sure i'll check it out eventually it's just oh no spider noir isn't i mean the whole noir thing isn't my jam for the most part so and nick cage is crazy
SirRonthePoor: That's kind of cool.
SirRonthePoor: Right, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Well, but he owns his crazy.
Chris: oh yeah he does i mean what was that movie ever but uh the
SirRonthePoor: Oh, the one with Pedro Pascal?
Chris: Yeah, price of, don't know, whatever.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, that whatever that... was a crazy movie.
Chris: Yeah, that was, yes, it was. Yep.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: So, but the man, I think in the last two years has been in 85 movies, so.
SirRonthePoor: Well, apparently he has to do that because he has terrible spending habits, so he just is broke constantly.
SirRonthePoor: So he's a always in movies.
Chris: Oh my gosh.
SirRonthePoor: That's that's why I've heard. Yeah.
Chris: i guess i mean I guess that's a screenwriter's dream. They're like, hey, you know when in doubt, Nick Cage will be in it.
SirRonthePoor: Right, yeah. Yeah, he did that Renfield movie. It was pretty good.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: He was a very over-the-top vampire.
Chris: He's a very over-the-top man.
SirRonthePoor: He is.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, it works in some movies. It's...
Chris: Yeah. Like face-off.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, but it does work in FaceTime.
Chris: Yeah. I don't...
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I just feel like i've i'm I'm out of the loop.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Actually, on top of this topic, like, side-tank to this topic, because I was on vacation for three, two weeks, right?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Whatever it was.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Going back on vacation again, starting Monday.
Chris: Good for you.
SirRonthePoor: But, yeah. I, like, didn't log in to my phone for, like, a week. but Like, I did my Duolingo, and that was it.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And I literally told my wife at one point, i was like, I don't know what day it is And I don't know what's happening anywhere. like
Chris: Yeah, but you but you knew what was happening, what mattered in your little bubble around your house. So yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Sure. Yeah, yeah, totally. But I had zero concept of the world around me.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And it was kind of great.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I'm not going to lie. like
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: It was super nice to just not know what's going on.
Chris: Yeah, I think more people need to do that.
SirRonthePoor: um I think they'd be a little help happier and healthier.
Chris: Oh, absolutely, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Worrying about other people's shit all the time is not good for us.
Chris: Yeah. No, it's not.
SirRonthePoor: we like it' so like Years ago, i nice somebody was talking about socially, we're really only meant to deal with 20 people. right like we were We evolved in little groups of 20 people, and that's like the limit of what we can care about.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: When we start caring about more than that, it gets really out of control.
Chris: And I think especially when it's people that you don't even know or have contact with, or, you know, impact with.
SirRonthePoor: Right.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. What?
SirRonthePoor: Think about like trying to be friends, quote unquote, with like 100 people.
Chris: No.
SirRonthePoor: It's a crazy concept.
Chris: Yeah, no, no.
SirRonthePoor: yeah I'm friends with like four people.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. yeah
SirRonthePoor: Like, there are four people in my life who, if shit went down, no matter what, I'm coming.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Right? That's about it.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. okay well
SirRonthePoor: Besides my wife, you know, family.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. But you get to that point. You, like you said that, you know, the hundred and everything, I think that's part of I don't know. Down, not downfall. I don't know how to really put it, but the bad part of like social media and things. Cause you, you're like, Ooh, I'm friends with this person and this and that, but you get to that,
Chris: bullshit stage with them no thoughts and prayers and stuff and it's now
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, it's, it's, um, it's unhealthy and it's, but it's funny.
Chris: yeah it spreads your bandwidth
SirRonthePoor: Um, yeah the, the, the French guy was riding the engine the other day and he said, uh, I like Salisbury's. You guys are like a family. And I'm like, kinda. mean, we used to be.
SirRonthePoor: and he's like, what? I'm like, I really only know like 20 people in the Salisbury Fire Department anymore. He's like, what? I'm like, there are people legitimately on B-Shift who I have never interacted with, couldn't identify, barely know if they work for the Salisbury Fire Department.
Chris: right
SirRonthePoor: A lot of times when you guys send out a little emails saying, congratulations to this person, I'm like, I don't know who that person is. Legitimately don't know who this person is.
Chris: do we need to start putting a picture well that's like i that's why i try sometimes to put you know like congratulations to you know like you know johnny two-step on 2c so that way people can't lease this oh he works on you know c shift over at two okay
SirRonthePoor: maybe
SirRonthePoor: and i mean it's partially me because i don't interact with them anymore but it's partially just we're we've become past my little bubble of i can deal with you you know i can't
Chris: right yeah yeah exactly yeah because those are the ones at your station it's yeah
SirRonthePoor: When we were a shift of 12 people, you were very close with 12 people. yeahre We're now shifts of 22 people in our shift, 23 or something. I'm really only close with five of them.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And it's... I can identify them all. But it's it is a different world. And that, like... He was... like
Chris: i just just imagine like somebody doing a mutual or overtime from yeah like 16b and they walk in you're like are you even ah employee how'd you how'd you get in the building show your paper son
SirRonthePoor: Right. now youre um paul How did you get in this building? yeah
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. I mean, there are people who work for the city who I know, like i know their names. i can i They're like, I've worked here for seven of years.
Chris: yeah prove it uh
SirRonthePoor: I'm like, i really?
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. It's it's really off-putting for me because they all know who I am. but I don't know who they are.
Chris: Mm. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I feel very awkward about that.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Because there's like, and there are some people in 2C who are like, I don't know if I'm like, it feels really weird because they're always like very happy to talk to me. And I'm like, I don't really know who you are.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Like I got the 1C people down.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I got the 1A people down. interact with them.
Chris: Well, yeah, because you interact with them routinely.
SirRonthePoor: Past that, it's tough.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: We haven't promoted anybody I don't know yet.
Chris: That's good.
SirRonthePoor: I say yet.
Chris: yet Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: yeah How's he being getting put to sergeant? he doesn't He's only worked here for two months.
SirRonthePoor: Right.
Chris: ah He's been here 12 years.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. I'm becoming the old doddering man that I used to be. ah
SirRonthePoor: I need my ammo screws to wear blue, my engine screws to wear red.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: What's like the other day, i can't remember who it was. Oh, it was, uh, it was, ah the Lieutenant from one C, when they were over for the cancer testing and the fire marshal, he was like, who is that person? I was like, oh, that's the chauffeur at it. Station one.
Chris: Really? Yeah. How long has he been here? a while. Huh? Interesting. It's like, yeah, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I think you guys have less excuse than I do.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Well, I could see the fire marshal's office because he's back in his, you know, area.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, but he probably should be out interacting with the guys.
Chris: Yeah, he does on calls.
SirRonthePoor: Does he?
Chris: Well, he sees the people he knows and.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Yeah, he comes talking to me because he knows He doesn't talk to anybody else.
Chris: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just. Yeah, I think, you getting back to your thing, it's the whole bandwidth and what can you maintain?
Chris: what should you maintain? What's healthy to maintain?
SirRonthePoor: Well, I think my bandwidth is going down.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I think legitimately my bandwidth for interaction with people is is the lowest has ever been in my life. I don't know if that's a good thing a bad thing, but I think that's just where I'm at.
Chris: Well, mean, who Research suggests the sweet spot, it's just like span of control, is three to five close friends.
SirRonthePoor: Well, then I'm right in there.
Chris: You have your core circle of three to five, the the acquaintances up to about 150, a broader network of people you're friendly with, known as the Dunbar's number, but you don't really interact with.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I mean, I'm friendly with 120 people because they work in the song same fire department as me.
Chris: Right, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: like It's about it.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: if If I haven't been to your house in a year, can I consider you a front close friend or talk to you?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Right? Like talk to you personally over a year.
Chris: Right. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Are you a friend at that point? I would imagine you're not.
Chris: Yeah, that's yeah. See, this is why we need like stats and stuff, because I could easily see, ah look, yeah know you're an acquaintance.
SirRonthePoor: yeah and i have friends who or people who were close friends who are now acquaintances because i don't interact with them anymore they've moved away or you know they just their life choices are different than mine you know and still friendly with those people but i i don't have bandwidth to know what's going on in their lives no no i probably really only know what's going on in
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
Chris: Yeah, know.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: three people's lives that are not now my own family.
Chris: Yeah. Oh, yeah. yeah Yeah, again, I mean, that's yeah your inner circle, which is, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Signs you've reached too many friends. Shallow connections. You have hundreds of casual acquaintances or social media followers, but no one you can truly confide in. Yeah, that's not a good thing.
SirRonthePoor: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Chris: ah You feel constantly drained or overstimulated because you're trying to keep up with too many different social outings.
SirRonthePoor: Mm-hmm.
Chris: Mm-hmm. And you find yourself mass inviting friends to save time for getting important dates or details about the people who matter in the most. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, yeah. To be fair, I have a friend who I've known 20
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: plus years at this point, probably 20, almost 30 years. I talked to this man twice a week at a minimum, at the minimum twice a week.
Chris: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: I don't know what his birthday is. Legitimately. I know what month it's in.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: That's about it as close as I can come.
Chris: yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: and i don't think i've ever known his birthday
Chris: yeah but that's another that's don't know guys are different about that yeah there
SirRonthePoor: that It's fair.
SirRonthePoor: I went to his birthday party last year.
Chris: you go yeah
SirRonthePoor: I can tell you what month it is.
Chris: yeah yeah mm-hmm yeah
SirRonthePoor: Early-ish December. Close friend. Actually, my besides you, my other closest friend, I know his birthday week.
Chris: hmm okay yeah well yeah yeah let me go back to your hole oh yeah
SirRonthePoor: His wife and him are both born in the same week, and I can't tell you for the life of me whose birthday is which day. But it's close enough. I just like wait for that week go' like, happy happy happy birthday, guys. And then I feel like I'm over here.
SirRonthePoor: And I just go back to my hole. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And it's going be weird because majority of my friends are going to turn 50 at the same time.
Chris: hmm
SirRonthePoor: Like in the same year. It's going to be a lot of 50th birthdays. I'm to have to like feel obligated to be like, oh, I just have to do something with your birthday.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, i mean, I feel like that's a big birthday, right? That's a thing you...
Chris: I guess. don't know. I just went to a 50th party last night, but I don't know.
SirRonthePoor: I mean, you're turning 50 before me, so we'll see what how we handle it.
Chris: yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. That whole day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah
SirRonthePoor: I know, your birthday?
Chris: yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I know yours. i know the guy on 16 Cause we're right there together.
SirRonthePoor: yeah
Chris: that I will say my handy dandy little phone helps me out because you know, I'll figure out at somebody's birthday, send them a text message and it says, would you like to add their birthday to their contact info? Yes, I would. So then I have it.
SirRonthePoor: I do that too, and then I never check my phone.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: I'm so bad at checking my calendar that I almost miss my haircut appointment every time.
SirRonthePoor: They send me a text message like two days before the thing, you know, reminder of your appointment, buth blah, blah, blah. And then i still forget.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: It happened literally yesterday.
Chris: How do you forget that?
SirRonthePoor: Because I know that the appointment was yesterday.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: For some reason, my brain goes, oh, it's at 11 o'clock, but it was at 1030.
Chris: Mm.
SirRonthePoor: And just happened to be at 10 o'clock.
Chris: Mm.
SirRonthePoor: I like, I better check, make sure this thing's at 11, not 1030.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And it was like, oh, no, it's a 1030. I'm like, motherfucker.
Chris: Well, at least you didn't do what you have done in the past and schedule it 9 the morning you get off.
SirRonthePoor: I've done that, too. i did I did that last month. Legitimately did that last month. And I was like, what? Why do I do these things to myself?
Chris: yeah Yeah, you literally know every day you're going to work till you retire.
SirRonthePoor: I know every day that I'm going to work between now and my retirement date. I know every morning that I'm going to get off. I also know that I don't want to do haircuts every morning. I also know that work two hours away from where I live.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: it If I pick an appointment at two hours from when I get off work, that's a bad thing.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah, that leaves no room for error.
SirRonthePoor: No! I'm a 46-year-old man who has no time management skills. It's not good. there's a time management, it's calendar management.
Chris: Yeah, it's Calendar. Yeah, because time, you're good.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: It's just, yeah. yeah Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I get my stuff done.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I just cannot handle anything else.
SirRonthePoor: Insane.
SirRonthePoor: Insane.
Chris: So are you going to go see The Mandalorian?
SirRonthePoor: I don't know, actually. I think I'm not.
Chris: know.
SirRonthePoor: I think I'm just going to wait to watch it. And I watched... This is how i found out what was going on, by the way. I watched some other YouTube thing, and Jon Favre was in there. He's like, oh, we did... these Like, if finally, halfway through the thing, i'm like, oh, he's promoting his movie.
SirRonthePoor: That's out now.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And he's like, oh, we we did the shot because it'll look great in and IMAX. I'm like, eh... i talked to my wife about it i'm like do you have any she she watched me with me and i was like do you have any interest to go and see this she's like really because the last time we went to see a movie i can't remember it was we paid crazy prices and the the like the seats were bad like like i mean not like not the view but like the actual seats were broken and
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yep.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: the
Chris: That's unfortunate.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, the whole theater is like run down. Like, so why am I paying this crazy amount of money?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah,
Chris: yeah
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: it's no bueno.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: so
Chris: ah so Yeah. yeah I got to see it. allll It'll be in standard. I don't need all the crazy extras.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Which evidently now four d is a thing. at some movie theaters.
SirRonthePoor: Not that one where they like spray you with water and crap.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, not in for that.
Chris: Yeah. Cause I saw somebody or heard somebody there like, oh yeah, like top gun Maverick. It was amazing. It's like, I think I'd get motion sickness.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, yeah. I'm not in for that.
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: used to get motion sickness at the opening roller coaster in the movies.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: and I don't need that my life.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: yeah
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: So I don't know that I'm going to see this movie until it comes on Disney+. And then I'll probably still wait another year to watch
Chris: yeah
Chris: Well, did you watch Maul?
SirRonthePoor: No.
Chris: Oh.
SirRonthePoor: I right haven't logged into my Disney Plus in eight months.
Chris: yeah
Chris: Yeah, Maul is good.
SirRonthePoor: I probably is. i don't disagree with you. I've just been watching.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I've really been watching World War II tank documentaries.
Chris: Oh.
SirRonthePoor: That's about it.
Chris: OK. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I don't know, man. It's tough. my my my but My thing's shrinking. My bandwidth is gone.
Chris: You're bait with this golem. What's like, what was it? ah On, oh, for the PlayStation Essentials or whatever, don't know, the free games that you get. It was that Star Wars Outlaws. And I was like, oh, okay, it's free. I'll actually check it out. And started playing it, and I'm like, it's fine.
Chris: and I was talking to my wife about it last weekend. And was explaining it. She was like, well, what's the gameplay like? i was like, well, you know, you're this, you know, kind of smuggler and you're working with the different, you know, factions and yeah, you gotta sneak around a little bit and all. She was like, well, you know, are you a Jedi? I was like, no, no, no, you're just a smuggler or nothing. She's like, well, that's why you don't like it. It doesn't have a lightsaber.
Chris: Star Wars needs lightsabers.
SirRonthePoor: It's very true.
Chris: It's like, you got a point woman.
SirRonthePoor: got
Chris: You got a point.
SirRonthePoor: No one had great things to say about that game.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. And I think that the opinion that I read from most people was exactly yours. It's fine.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: But then you have to think, like do I want to waste my time playing something that's fine?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: just don't.
Chris: Right. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: you know I only have so much time in a day.
Chris: Yeah. So yeah Yeah. So instead, I saw that the latest Devil May Cry was on sale for like $6. So I was like, I'll grab that and do some mindless hack and slash.
SirRonthePoor: There you go.
Chris: Yep.
SirRonthePoor: And you're probably like, this is better than fine.
Chris: So oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm really enjoying it. So yeah. Which, that's another one. Have you watched the Devil May Cry series on Netflix?
SirRonthePoor: I don't have Netflix, so no.
Chris: Oh, OK.
SirRonthePoor: We got rid of Netflix ah a few years ago and I've not looked back.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: yeah i
Chris: Well, I feel like you can watch movies and stuff on YouTube anymore.
SirRonthePoor: Legitimately?
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I watched... Do you know what the last movie I watched... This is sad.
Chris: Saving Ryan's privates.
SirRonthePoor: No, no, no, no. The 1972 classic Dirty Dozen.
Chris: Ooh.
SirRonthePoor: It's a great movie. I've seen it 400 times.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: You know, that's what I watched.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. That's like, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And then there's a lot of World II tag documentaries.
Chris: Yeah. right Not too long ago, the wife and kids were out of town, so I watched Fletch.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, do you?
Chris: which I haven't watched the new one with Jon Hamm.
SirRonthePoor: I'm not either. i can't.
Chris: But yeah, just the original.
SirRonthePoor: I don't need to.
Chris: Yeah, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: That's my view of of Fletch. I have Fletch.
Chris: Yeah, yeah. I have Fletch and Fletch lives.
SirRonthePoor: You can enjoy Jon Ham Fletch. I have Fletch.
Chris: Exactly, yeah,
SirRonthePoor: I don't own galoshes. I rent with a bunch of buy.
Chris: Yeah, yeah. That's like, what was it?
SirRonthePoor: Well, that was a rant.
Chris: What was it we watched the other night?
SirRonthePoor: Oh.
Chris: I watched some new movie the other night. It was fine. It was fun for some of it. It was like and Mike and Nick and Nick and somebody. And it was, yeah, oh, God. James Marston and Vince Vaughn.
SirRonthePoor: oh I think I've seen clips of that movie it's like, it's a Vince Vaughn twin movie.
Chris: It was like,
Chris: yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, okay. yeah
Chris: it's actually It's actually pretty funny in some spots, so.
SirRonthePoor: Well, that's good because Vince Vaughn in anything where he's not trying to be funny is terrible.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I'm sorry to tell you this, Vince Vaughn, but stop doing anything that's not funny.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Is
Chris: I was like, oh, look. We've got yeah Cyclops being somebody.
SirRonthePoor: that who?
Chris: Which, James Marsden, he's Cyclops.
SirRonthePoor: I don't know, man. I don't know these people.
Chris: Yeah, he's coming back for the Avengers Doomsday that's going to have 8,000 people in it.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, I'm not interested in that.
Chris: Oh, here's one.
SirRonthePoor: Isn't that the one that Robert Downey is supposed to play Doom, Doctor Doom?
Chris: Yeah, here's one you are and you probably are interested in. The second season of X-Men 97 is coming out.
SirRonthePoor: Ooh, that I am interested
Chris: There you go. Yeah, that comes out in July. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: in. Spaceballs 2 is coming out eventually, but I'm not sure I'm interested in that.
Chris: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'll be another probably wait for home prime something, which side tangent to that prime.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Yeah. There's a man.
Chris: You guys are sneaky. I hate that I go to your movie section and you show me the free movies. the And then, but sneakily you list some, but when you click on them, it says, oh, available to rent or buy from these streaming services. It's like, no, no.
Chris: I went to Prime. I want to see what movies you have and what movies you have only.
SirRonthePoor: yeah we've also made a system where like say you wanted to watch a movie and you're like oh i want to good i I'm willing to rent this movie. I want to go watch it.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Google that movie. you have You'll not find where that movie is streaming.
Chris: Oh, yeah, no.
SirRonthePoor: You just won't. Because then you'll be like, it'll say Prime, but then you'll go to Prime and like, no, this is on Hulu.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And then you go to Hulu and it's like, we don't have that movie. It's on Netflix. it's like, what the? For some reason, it's on Apple.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And you're like, I don't even know.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: It's...
Chris: Oh, this is on 2B+.
SirRonthePoor: And nothing's ever on HBO, which is the one I have.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's yeah that's true. ah HBO, you have the ah lanterns coming up.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, that's cool.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: I like the green lanterns.
Chris: Yeah, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And the yellow lanterns.
Chris: Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart.
SirRonthePoor: No. No yellow lantern.
Chris: I don't know if there'll be one in it or not. i don't know if it's a series or a movie or what, but yeah. So far, they've confirmed that Guy Gardner, Jon Stewart, and Hal Jordan are in it.
SirRonthePoor: good.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Who's playing Guy Gardner?
Chris: Oh, Nathan Fillion.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, is he coming back for it? That's cool.
Chris: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tied in. Yep. Yep. So.
SirRonthePoor: They're going to have Ryan Reynolds play Hal Jordan.
Chris: No, i can't remember the actor's name.
SirRonthePoor: Thank God.
Chris: um Jordan actor.
Chris: Kyle Chandler.
SirRonthePoor: No idea.
Chris: um Yeah, I mean, what's come on. He was in Friday Night Lights.
SirRonthePoor: Never seen it.
Chris: The Rip, whatever movie that is.
SirRonthePoor: never heard of that.
Chris: Yeah. He was in Zero Dark Thirty. Godzilla, King of the Monsters. He was in the latest couple of Godzilla movies.
SirRonthePoor: Hmm.
Chris: Yeah. Which I tried to watch that Godzilla Zero or Minus One or whatever. was weird.
SirRonthePoor: I gave up after Kong Skull Island, which was a weird movie.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: like You could tell they were trying to set something up, and I was like, I don't know that I'm buying into what they're setting up.
Chris: Yeah. I was, i was out of town a week or two ago and I was just watching whatever was on the TV and the hotel and it was Godzilla versus Kong or something. i don't know. Those are.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, yeah.
Chris: So, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: thing about Godzilla movies is you just want the old Godzilla movies.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Just give me this rubber looking, know,
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, just give the guy in the suit, Godzilla.
Chris: Yeah, yep, that's Godzilla. oh
SirRonthePoor: Well, we're on to topic two, since we have no idea how long we've been recording since we have a break.
Chris: Sure. her
Chris: yeah It's about that long, I don't know.
SirRonthePoor: Okay.
Chris: So, ah topic two.
SirRonthePoor: About that long, sure.
Chris: I'm sure you've seen the news.
SirRonthePoor: I might not have.
Chris: Destiny is officially done 9th. june ninth
SirRonthePoor: actually had not seen that news.
Chris: Oh yeah, they made this big announcement because it's been kind of like radio silence since about February as to what was going on with destiny. We knew that, you know, the next expansion for this year was going to be in June.
Chris: And then finally last week, Bungie came out and said, we have made the decision that June 9th will be the last ah update to Destiny 2. The game will still be playable, you know, afterward, it's just we're not going to actively support, an you know, roll out updates and things like that.
Chris: So, but it sounds like they're, like, unlocking everything from the vault and all, and it's just like, here is everything. Go play Destiny. Enjoy yourselves. We're sorry that it came to this.
SirRonthePoor: Huh.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: That's a shame.
Chris: Well, and they also said, and there's currently no uh, active development on destiny three.
SirRonthePoor: Huh.
Chris: That sucks.
SirRonthePoor: I don't know what Bungie's doing.
Chris: Well, I think when, once Sony bought them, it really changed them.
SirRonthePoor: But what are they now? Because they put out Marathon, which...
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: It's got less concurrence right now than destiny two does then destiny one.
SirRonthePoor: I don't...
SirRonthePoor: Alright, I was going to say... right No one seems really interested in Marathon.
Chris: Well, it's cause it's, that's not, why you go to bungie
SirRonthePoor: Right. It's a... I don't even really... I haven't played the game, but I hear it's just basically a bad creators.
Chris: yeah it's an extraction shooter the gunplay in it was decent because i played the alpha and the beta and it was i mean the gunplay was there but yeah just the the overall interactions and everything that's just not
SirRonthePoor: Right. And...
SirRonthePoor: Sure. Sure.
Chris: Yeah, that's not Bungie. And I saw something about the, ah well, we're going to add a PVE mode to Marathon.
SirRonthePoor: I just...
Chris: It's like, no, no.
SirRonthePoor: Well, how long... that like it It becomes the ship of Theseus, right? like We've replaced so much of Bungie with something else. Is it still Bungie?
Chris: Yeah, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: You know, like...
Chris: I mean, you don't have, it's it's very similar to BioWare.
SirRonthePoor: right you got 343 split off of bungee right to make halos and then so you're no longer the the halo company right because bungee was the halo guys you come out with destiny which was an amazing ride like everybody i mean no one really has bad things to about any destiny that i you know
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. I mean, yeah. The 10 plus years we've had destiny.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And then you're like, oh, we're going to bring back Marathon, which is the name of our first shooter that no one really cared about or or knew about.
Chris: Yeah. But we're going to bring it back in a different imagining because
SirRonthePoor: Right.
Chris: The original marathon and this marathon are two wildly different games.
SirRonthePoor: Right. And now we're, what are we? like i what what what is I don't understand what Bungie's long-term plan is.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And maybe their plan is nothing.
Chris: Yeah, I mean.
SirRonthePoor: Because
Chris: To me, this is.
Chris: What Bungie is right now. so they launched marathon. it didn't perform the way they wanted it to. They are sunsetting destiny two, they don't have an active plan for destiny three.
Chris: I mean, will Bungie even be around this time next year?
SirRonthePoor: ah Is it around now is my real point?
Chris: Well, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: you know
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: it It feels like all of the people that made Bungie Bungie are gone right at this point.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: i i know I don't know the inner workings of who's left from the original Bungie, but i it can't be many.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
Chris: yeah Yeah. I don't think really there's anybody. There's probably like one guy.
SirRonthePoor: Right.
Chris: like ah designed the like the little guy in the basement who's my stapler.
SirRonthePoor: Because one guy's like, I've been here the whole time. They're like, oh. but You're still here? thought we fired you 10 years ago. you know
SirRonthePoor: But... It just... It feels like when they transitioned to Destiny 1, I was like, oh, this is the new Bungie thing. Right?
SirRonthePoor: <unk>ve we've We've developed what we want. We've got a cool story. We've got a cool universe. We're going to play around this universe. And they were like, all right, cool, Destiny 2. And I'm like, you guys are, you've rocked it. And now you're,
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: i don't know. It just feels like they they don't know what the hell their company is. And they don't, they don't know what they are. And they fired like few years ago, they fired the guy who did the music.
Chris: Yeah. Oh, God, yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And like,
Chris: um a cut I can see him because he comes up on like my most played because I listen to their soundtracks all the time.
SirRonthePoor: Right, and like it's such an iconic part of their games is the music, which is such a weird thing to say, but Bungie rocks the music, and they fired that guy, and i was like, oh, we've they've lost their, they don't know what they are.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: Right, and then it was all a sudden, it's like the guy who did the sandbox development for Halo got fired, and like, oh, you're a different company.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Oh, sad.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. um yeah I'm trying to look up to see who from the original. um
Chris: Tyson Green has been with the company for two decades.
SirRonthePoor: Never heard of them.
Chris: Yeah. uh yeah i don't really yeah i mean not really anybody there's only like it's uh there's only two to four members left that were there at the 343 oh my god yeah i mean yeah
SirRonthePoor: Sure.
SirRonthePoor: And even probably most of the people who developed Destiny 1 are gone.
Chris: yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: You know. And it's just, it's, it's, it's becomes this thing of, ah of what is your company? I mean, we talk about with Bioware all the time.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Like, why can't Bioware make a new Bioware game? And I think it just becomes this thing of like, we don't know what we are because we fired all the people that matter.
Chris: Right. Yeah, exactly.
SirRonthePoor: and i I get it. Who wants to do the same project for 30 years? You know, but,
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. But there are some, there are some games or services that still do it. I mean, wow is still running.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Final Fantasy 14. Yeah. um yeah yeah what is Oh my god.
SirRonthePoor: Look at Grand Theft Auto, for God's sakes. you know
Chris: I saw something stupid the other day. That Grand Theft Auto Online brings in. Like a million dollars a day.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, it is the most profitable gaming franchise ever.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: and it's and And by the way, that's based off of one of the franchises. Like, Grand Theft Auto 1, 2, 3, 4 pales in comparison to Grand Theft Auto V.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: That's why theyre they're not worried about GTA 6, because they're like, well, yeah, that's cash cow still.
Chris: Right. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: yeah
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And...
Chris: I don't know if that's what destiny was banking on to do that everlasting cobstopper, but then they kind of lost track, I think.
SirRonthePoor: What? I think they just they stopped understanding what made Destiny good.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And for me, when I jumped back into Destiny 2, I was like, this is a nut. I guess it's it's like the frog in the boiling water, right? You played the whole way through, so you were like, oh, this is just Destiny.
Chris: Hmm.
SirRonthePoor: But when I jumped in, i was like, this isn't Destiny.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Right.
SirRonthePoor: this is This is an MMO pretending like when you see people running around in Christmas skins, you're like, oh, what the heck is this game?
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: right you got guys with lightsabers you're like what what this isn't destiny
Chris: Right. That's a Praxic Blade.
SirRonthePoor: okay it's a fucking lightsaber
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, I'm happy that my Warlock has a lightsaber and a blaster now but you know yeah no it's not no yeah <unk> yeah
SirRonthePoor: Right, but if it's not Destiny, it's
SirRonthePoor: it's the same. it's And I would love to see a Destiny 3. I would love for them to be like, we hooked up. we're We're in development because they're have to do something.
Chris: yeah yeah no no but which it's funny um starting tuesday the second
SirRonthePoor: Marathon's not going to make money. Right.
Chris: Leading up to Bungie's or Destiny's final update, Marathon is free for all players for a week.
SirRonthePoor: But people aren't going like, oh, I love Destiny so much, I'm going to jump into Marathon.
Chris: ah Exactly. Exactly. So I don't i don't know.
SirRonthePoor: Like, loot shooter is a thing, right?
Chris: But yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Destiny's a loot shooter.
Chris: Yeah. yeah it
SirRonthePoor: I don't want a transaction from that to an extraction shooter, right?
Chris: Right.
SirRonthePoor: And...
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Because inevitably with that, you get pair paired up with a couple of randos and everybody's doing their own thing. While in destiny, you can get paired up with randos, but you're doing the same goal and you kind of work together.
Chris: So yeah.
SirRonthePoor: and it's it i it's it sucks because I love the story of destiny I think it's cool it's convoluted it's crazy you know there's all this backstory lore that you have to like dig to find and then when you dig and find it it's like rewarding and they're not going to do that anymore
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah. ah yeah yeah I mean, and you know, destiny three doesn't have to be a continuation of what destiny two was.
Chris: you Go back, take us back to, you know, the golden era or whatever, you know, give us some of those, you know, early stories, you know,
SirRonthePoor: mm-hmm yeah
Chris: of you know some of the first Guardians and all that.
SirRonthePoor: its
SirRonthePoor: you built this universe and and i you know it's sad right yeah yeah and it's sad i mean it's it's sad to see destiny go i think um
Chris: thing um Yeah. It's kind of like the Star Wars stuff. I mean, you know there's this giant universe. Don't just focus on this one little subset.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you talked about earlier your bandwidth and everything because of Destiny. I have three fairly close friends.
SirRonthePoor: Sure.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Yeah. And what
Chris: So that I message with on the daily and, you know, at least weekly.
SirRonthePoor: and what are you going do with them? Because now there's but there's nothing like Destiny to replace Destiny.
Chris: Yeah. Well, most of them hopped off Destiny a while ago. So it's just, you we talk about random shit, but yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Sure.
Chris: Yeah. It's, it's a shame. Like, you know, I turned the chat off for the clan. I'm in a destiny because I'm like, I'm kind of done with it. Because, i mean, yeah, I'll definitely hop back in on the 9th and see what's going on and everything. But.
SirRonthePoor: And how long do you think until they just shut the servers down?
Chris: um
SirRonthePoor: Because they don't have Microsoft, right?
Chris: Right.
SirRonthePoor: Just keep their servers running, right?
Chris: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sony's not going to keep these going forever.
SirRonthePoor: No.
Chris: um I hate to say it, but I would say Christmas time.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. If it makes it that long, I'd be impressed, actually.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Because, like, Halo... Halo did an amazing... Like, the smartest thing they did was they put out that Master Chief collection. So all of the the but the legacy games are still played.
SirRonthePoor: I mean, like, I think, like, Halo 2 is still one of the most played games on Xbox.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: You know?
Chris: Oh yeah, I'm sure.
SirRonthePoor: And it... That came out came out and 2004?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Something like that. you know I remember calling out work from work to go play Halo 2.
SirRonthePoor: They did a really smart thing to keep those servers up, but I don't see Sony being like, we're goingnna keep the Destiny servers up.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Because they're not going to get money out of it
Chris: Yeah. Halo 2 still sees between 11,000 and 12,000 players daily.
SirRonthePoor: it. For a game that's 20 years old.
Chris: Yep.
SirRonthePoor: you know
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And I don't know what Destiny's numbers are, right?
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: But it won't. It'll be that sad thing where it's like the last guy closing the door on Destiny, right?
Chris: Yeah. Let's Destiny 2.
Chris: Roughly 120,000 players concurrently. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris: roughly a hundred and twenty thousand players concurrently
SirRonthePoor: It seems like a good proportion. I guess the problem is now these companies are like, I need a million players a day or it's not worth the time.
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: You know. But also you didn't put new Destiny out. You haven't even really put out a story expansion in a year, right?
Chris: yeah yeah yeah the last one was renegades yeah which
SirRonthePoor: Right. So what do you expect of the player base if you don't give them the thing that they're there to play? It's sad. This is why we should be in charge of the world.
Chris: yeah yeah yeah which i mean for what it's worth i know it's it doesn't do anything but i signed the petition for destiny 3. So I think it's up to like 310,000 players have signed it so far.
Chris: know Sony will look at that and be like, OK, good for you.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, cool.
Chris: But
SirRonthePoor: We get a a million people play Spider-Man a day. you know We don't care about
Chris: yeah. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: That's the problem. it is is Now you're in the Sony-verse and your numbers are never going to be good enough.
Chris: Yep.
Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Well, and it's also, you when I'm sure when Sony bought Bungie, they were like, cool, we want you to put up Fortnite numbers.
SirRonthePoor: Right.
Chris: And it's not how that works.
SirRonthePoor: No.
Chris: So yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah, it's it's greed.
SirRonthePoor: Oh
Chris: I mean, that's why Destiny 2 is shutting down. It's greed.
SirRonthePoor: um oh yeah, 100%.
Chris: So
SirRonthePoor: Which, again, their company they're company, going to make money.
Chris: yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And the problem is they want they want Fortnite money and they're not willing to accept Destiny money.
Chris: Mm-hmm.
Chris: right oh yeah yeah yep yeah or or grand theft auto yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: Right? Like they could easily, Destiny 3 could come out and make a profit, but it will never be Fortnite money. Right? It'll never be Call of Duty money. Right. It'll never be Grand Theft Auto money. Right.
SirRonthePoor: I don't know how Grand Theft Auto makes all that money. I can't stand it. But people love it.
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: And they spend a lot of money on it. You know. this You're not going to make that money in a Destiny game. Because that's not the player base.
SirRonthePoor: and And it sucks to be in that player base going, oh, well, I'm getting shut out of everything.
Chris: yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: That's how I feel. I feel like the games that I love, because they aren't these massive money makers, are just going to go away more and more and more.
Chris: yeah grand theft auto continues to make millions of dollars
SirRonthePoor: you know Yeah, sure.
Chris: Based on microtransactions in the game called Shark Cards. Shark Cards give players millions of virtual dollars used to buy high-end cars, apartments, businesses without having to grind for them. Huh.
Chris: Wow.
SirRonthePoor: And that game is a decade old?
Chris: um
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Right? I think it's least a decade.
Chris: GTA. sheet
Chris: Um, yeah.
Chris: Wow. Yeah. It's been around since, uh, 2015. Yep. Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah?
SirRonthePoor: Oh my God. GTA 5 has generated nearly $10 billion.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. Yeah. No. billion dollars
Chris: Oh my gosh. That's ridiculous.
Chris: i yeah Yeah, I mean, that that's ah that's a bar no other game company can achieve.
SirRonthePoor: It's never going happen.
Chris: Yeah. Wow. So, yeah, just I'll log in next week, see what it's like, play for a while, and yeah.
Chris: hang out with some people I haven't hung out with in a while online and yeah
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And then it'll be gone.
Chris: yeah it will yeah yeah yeah yeah
SirRonthePoor: It'll be sad. I'll be sad for it. And I don't even play it anymore. And I'll still be sad for I'll be sad for, I'm not sad that Destiny 2 is going away. I'm sad that the Destiny 3 is not going to happen.
Chris: yeah
SirRonthePoor: You know, it's kind of how I feel like the new, the Halo that's supposedly coming out that, you know, I don't know that I care about it anymore because the game has gotten so far away from Halo that I don't know what it is.
Chris: yeah yeah
Chris: Right. Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah. It's a shame, like you said, when game developers forget what made them good and yeah do stuff like that.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Lock all the Bioware and ONG and PlayStation 343 Xbox people together and just have a stern talking to.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah. I'm going sit you down talk to you.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: Well, on that side note, goodbye to Destiny.
Chris: Yeah. yeah
SirRonthePoor: And, um, Enjoy the games you enjoy, folks. Don't play stuff that is mediocre.
Chris: Yeah.
Chris: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Life's too short to play not great games.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: And i can tell you this, I find more pleasure in non-AAA games than anything else of these days.
Chris: Yeah.
SirRonthePoor: so
Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah. yeah I mean, there's a ton of fun to be had in and take what critics say about things with a grain of salt there. I've had a ton of fun with six out of tens and hated my experience with nine out of tens.
SirRonthePoor: Mm-hmm.
SirRonthePoor: A lot of times.
Chris: So yeah. Yeah. It's like we always talk about you do you.
SirRonthePoor: Yeah, do you?
Chris: Yeah. And yeah, take care of yourselves.
SirRonthePoor: Yep. See you, folks.
