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Alter egos and Careers

Mythic Giraffe Podcast
Mythic Giraffe Podcast

25 plays · Jun 15, 2026

Welcome back! After the rigmarole (kids, drivers, people, food); Ron has a superhero alter ego trivia test for us; Chris wonders what we would have done other than Fire and EMS.

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Chris: Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Draft Podcast. I'm Chris.

whoneedswork: And I'm Ron. I'm really glad that we don't get paid for this so that we can't say we're professionals because boy, we are not.

Chris: We're professionals of a sort.

whoneedswork: Are we?

Chris: I don't know. what Speaking of professionals, you'll appreciate this. Someone who's about to start their professional professional career with a fire department.

Chris: calls to ask so this whole two-week academy do i have to be there every day because i want to sign up for my volunteer department some too

whoneedswork: Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, sweet summer child.

Chris: ah the yeah

whoneedswork: Yes, you need to come to work. Every day that you're supposed to be at work, you need to be there.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah That's, that's, that's how a job works.

whoneedswork: It sucks. and This is going to be the... but This sucks, and it's going to be the rest of your life. So you know.

Chris: Uh, what's I had to explain to my youngest the other day. um cause her first interaction with the motor vehicle administration was not pleasant. I said, you're going to have assholes your entire life. I said, you just got deal with it.

Chris: So. When we went back Saturday, it was, oh God, it's the same evaluator. I said, and again, this is life.

whoneedswork: This is how it works.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So luckily made it through licensed driver now. So yeah.

whoneedswork: Jeez, good lord.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

whoneedswork: Ah!

Chris: Yeah. And immediately, well, can I drive down to ocean city? It's like, let's get a week of local driving in and then we can talk.

whoneedswork: Yeah, you pay for your insurance and gas? Then no.

Chris: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't gotten that bill yet. Yeah. I called the insurance company Monday. I was like, yeah, I gotta add my other daughter. And they're like, okay.

whoneedswork: Cha-ching!

Chris: Yeah. God. How often will she be driving? Oh, not at all. None. None.

whoneedswork: Never. Ever, ever, ever, ever.

Chris: She is so, she's like, kind of like how we were. She got her license. She has been gone

whoneedswork: Oh, yeah.

Chris: I'm going to to so-and-so's house. I'm going to do that. OK. Yeah.

whoneedswork: that that That daughter of yours is is the most ah independent person ever going to live.

Chris: Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And it's the it's the stupid things.

whoneedswork: If you could...

Chris: It's like the other day. She's like, I'm going to drive over to Starbucks and get a drink.

whoneedswork: If you call me and you're like, my daughter has fled for Europe and I haven't seen her in six months, I can believe that.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: And you would know which one I was talking about.

whoneedswork: It's not even a question. you also are like, hey, I need you to come over and bury a butter body. My but daughter has killed somebody. I also wouldn't know who did it.

Chris: Yeah. And they're the same person.

whoneedswork: It's the same one. Oh, speaking of driving, I saw maybe the craziest thing that I've ever seen in my entire life today.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Coming home from the gym. So, you know, whatever. Stop at the top light. I'm going straight. This person's turning left. I happen to look over and the passenger in this vehicle is eating corn on the cob.

whoneedswork: A full...

Chris: I'm sorry. What?

whoneedswork: Is there a food that you can eat less cleanly your car than corn on the cob? By the way, it was like 1030 in the morning.

Chris: Maybe picking crabs?

whoneedswork: see

Chris: God.

whoneedswork: It's just there. Just eating corn on the cob.

Chris: What?

whoneedswork: Crazy.

Chris: Who does that? Who's like, hey, gotta take a ride. Hold on. Let me get my car corn.

whoneedswork: I need my car corn. Exactly. and

Chris: What do you do with a cob when you're done?

whoneedswork: guess you'd probably just throw it out the window, I'm sure.

Chris: Oh, God. Yeah, but I mean... Are they...

whoneedswork: It blew me away.

Chris: are And were they like raw dog in it? Or were did they have like... Butter? Or it's you know salt? Obey? Anything on it?

whoneedswork: You know, these are a lot of questions I did not engage with the serial killer to ask.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Or maybe it was like Mexican street corn and it had that like... Stuff on it?

whoneedswork: No, no, this was, it looked like full on just regular corn.

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: like a

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: And again, it was like 1030 in the morning.

Chris: All right.

whoneedswork: It was not like two in the afternoon. that i Wait, it doesn't matter what time it was.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: There's no appropriate time for reading Corn of the Cob in your car.

Chris: Yeah. yeah God, i was hoping you were going to say it was the same person that we were beside in traffic Saturday because we, I, on a moment of weakness, my wife said, Hey, I'd really like to go down and walk the boardwalk.

Chris: And I said,

whoneedswork: Oh, the first Saturday in June. would have told their wife negative.

Chris: I said, that sounds delightful. And then both kids said they wanted to go.

whoneedswork: Oof.

Chris: So we all load up and we're going down there, but we're hit the traffic. And i hear both the people in the passenger side go, oh my God, that person.

Chris: I look and there was someone barefoot with their feet up on the dash,

whoneedswork: Oh, God.

Chris: like knitting with their toes. Like they had a shirt bunched up and were just like kneading it with their toes on the dash.

whoneedswork: Oh.

Chris: i would wi it Not only you, you know, if you get in an accident, you're going to you know blow out your hips and everything else.

whoneedswork: Yeah,

Chris: But why are you taking your nasty ass feet and rubbing this shirt on the dash like this?

whoneedswork: or why are putting your nastiest feet on the dash of a car at all? Gross. Gross.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: We also went to the beach this weekend and i saw the most Mr. Bean interaction I've ever seen of a person do.

whoneedswork: This human being, we went to this, there's this little bakery that we like to go to.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: So we went to the bakery to get our little sandwich after our bike ride.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: We go in there and this person walks in. We've already ordered. So we're just sitting there waiting. It's hot out. So we're in the air conditioning a little bit. And she walks in, she opens the door. like a person that's important to the story that she opens the door.

Chris: Like a person.

whoneedswork: And then I watch her just interact with the store. And like, she just walks in front of people. And then she's like, I'm in her hall and looking at, and e could tell the poor girl who's like, they're kind of busy.

whoneedswork: She's like, well,

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: what do you want ma'am and she's poppa papa and he she goes and then then she goes to pay and she can't figure out how to pay and the lady's like i just give me your card it's and she's like trying to figure out which card to give her it took forever but then all of that ends and she finally like oh excuse me and she's she goes to go out the door now the door that she had to come in she pushed when she came in

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Right.

Chris: OK.

whoneedswork: So, you know that when you go to go out, you have to pull that door.

Chris: Poll. Yes.

whoneedswork: She, I swear to God, two to three minutes of just trying to push this door. And she looked at me like like a deer in a headlight. And she says, I just can't get this door to work. I said, you have to pull.

whoneedswork: And then she pulled the door open and and walked out. And I just sat there and said, this person votes. This person drives a car. This person has, assumingly has had a job.

Chris: They might have kids.

whoneedswork: I could see like, oh, one, one, you know, I messed up.

Chris: Yeah. Yep.

whoneedswork: Cool. It goes the other way.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: But I'm telling, it was the longest minute to two minutes of my life watching this person fumble with the door and just try to, and then like messing with the lock, like the door locked for some reason.

Chris: Oh my gosh.

whoneedswork: No, the door's not locked.

Chris: They've locked me in. What can I do?

whoneedswork: It was crazy. And I was just like, oh my God, I was blown away.

Chris: uh

whoneedswork: it was crazy.

Chris: oh my god i thought you were gonna say like full mr bean like she would just walk around like wow hmm

whoneedswork: If she'd put the suit on, think you would have said, that's Mr. Bean. I was looking around to see if there were cameras. Because it was crazy.

whoneedswork: Then she got in a car and drove away. This person drove a car on the roads.

Chris: Nice.

whoneedswork: Why, we hope the roads.

Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I, yeah, yeah. It's, it's boggling sometimes.

whoneedswork: It's... it's

Chris: It's, yeah.

whoneedswork: boggled my mind it blew me away i was just i was i was flabbergasted with the like what she literally looked at me and said i don't know how to work the door

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah, that's.

Chris: Oh my gosh, that's.

whoneedswork: and then i was like are the she didn't i don't know she really even paid attention until like i pointed out afterwards like it was like the weirdest interaction in my life and my wife's like it was a little weird i'm like a little weird

Chris: what did your What did your wife say?

whoneedswork: This person didn't know how to work a door. a door that she came in. And it's not like it was... Side tangent this. Why do all of these places have two doors if one door is always locked?

Chris: Yeah, that's true.

whoneedswork: Every time you go to go out a door, it's the locked one.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: yeah yeah yeah just like painted over or something yeah exactly yeah

whoneedswork: Why? Why have two doors? Just don't have the two doors. Is it a... fun

whoneedswork: Is it a fire code thing? Because then i believe it should be open.

whoneedswork: Yeah. Everywhere you go, there's two doors. one of them is always locked closed.

Chris: yeah yeah but the fact that yeah the person there's like people going around her

whoneedswork: Craziness. Yeah. That lady would have spent the rest of her life. If that was a... There would have been people going around her and she would have spent the rest of her life trying to go out that door.

Chris: Now was it like most of those doors that it's clearly a handle to pull?

whoneedswork: Oh, yeah, it was just a handle door. You just pull the door and you just pull it.

Chris: Aww.

whoneedswork: not no Not like ah you had to turn the handle.

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: You still had to turn the handle, but it was a turn the handle and pull.

Chris: Oh my

whoneedswork: who was It's not like some French European door. It was ah a normal American door. And she could not operate it.

Chris: It's like you said. She votes. She could procreate. she

whoneedswork: She was older, so she might have already.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: She's passed those jeans on to somebody, possibly.

Chris: Oh, my God. There's some kid pushing the milk carton down.

whoneedswork: But it freaked me out because I was like, am I going to become that person? Like, is there a time where I'm going to be like, I don't know how to work a door?

whoneedswork: And how long is that time from now? I'm not getting younger. It's very worrisome.

Chris: that's the other. Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Like, that lady was closer to my age than I am to a 20-year-old probably.

Chris: Yeah, people. what's we Sunday, we yeah we took a lovely little trip to Home Depot. we We got our floors redone. So was like, you know, we need to redo the vent covers.

Chris: Mike's like, okay. And we get to Home Depot. I'm like, here are the options. And my wife just... was like, what? She's like, This is a huge decision in our lives.

Chris: I was like, no.

whoneedswork: There's like two kinds.

Chris: yeah I was like, there's the standard contractor grade that we have. That's, you know, got a little rust on it. I mean, they're 17 years old or whatever. And yet then they have to kind of have like a little grill pattern. I said, those are your options.

Chris: She was, what about all of these? was like, no, no, no. We have to stick with the ones that are four 12. okay i said so you have these we came home with four of them so we could see which one fits the decor the best

Chris: yeah and we tried out one in the office and it was evening so it's a little dark in there she's like you can't really see it in the light i was like what the ceiling fades she's like can you turn a flashlight on

Chris: I don't think you... so ah People don't pay attention to these, babe.

whoneedswork: I don't think that's a thing.

Chris: it

whoneedswork: People are like, oh my god, they got those fan covers? Oh, man.

Chris: To the point... She sent me a picture this morning. She was like, this is hideous in the sunlight. Okay.

whoneedswork: What color did you get?

Chris: It's...

whoneedswork: White?

Chris: I don't know.

whoneedswork: Or gray?

Chris: No!

whoneedswork: don't know.

Chris: it's yeah It's like, I don't know, bronze? Like that

whoneedswork: Or the other, I guess there's the bronzy brass ones, but...

Chris: Yeah, it was like dark, like weathered bronze. where I thought it looked fine. it like it looks black to me.

whoneedswork: Sure.

Chris: Evidently, there's a color to it. I don't know. yeah, she was just... And well, we went to Home Depot for that. And she was like, well, while we're here, was like, oh, here we go.

Chris: She's like, why don't we look for a new grill? was like, oh, okay. Because my grill, the bottom is rusting it. Like where the the the propane tank is now sitting on the ground because the bottom part is rusted out.

whoneedswork: Sure, sure, yeah.

Chris: and I looked at it if I got all the replacement parts, I'm buying a new grill anyway. So, so we look and we're looking around. was like, yeah, this I look at this one. was like, wow, this is a steel.

Chris: There's a Weber grill, like four burners, nice cabinet and everything. Like, all right. I look at the tag and it was on sale for 499. I was like, okay, this, this, I like this deal. So I finally find one of the young men that works there.

Chris: I said, Hey, do you have this in a box on a simple because I'm in my wife's car. It's going to a pain to get it in there. It's like, oh yeah, I'm sure we can, you know, scans it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Let me go get it. I'll meet you at the counter.

Chris: Meets us at the counter. They scan it to ring it up 900 and some dollars. I said, no, no. The tag clearly said 499. He's like, yeah, I did see that tag. Let me go back and get the tag. So he gets a tag and the girl's like, yeah, okay.

Chris: And she's like, oh, Well, this box is damaged, but we've got another one. Look, you're getting, you know, it's over $200. two hundred dollars So you get free delivery. you want to just ship it to your house? i was like, sure, fine, whatever.

Chris: So we get the four different registers to compare at home. um Come home and I get a text later. don't like an hour and a half later.

Chris: Your grill, or well, first I get a phone call from my father-in-law. So my irrigation's turned on and I can't turn it off. do you have any ideas? i said, turn the valve off.

Chris: Yeah, I can't.

whoneedswork: You turn the mic off.

Chris: I can't figure that out. He's like, hey, it's not labeled. I just unplugged the thing from the wall and it's still going. like I was like, did you have it serviced? Well, I haven't used it in five years. I figured just turn it on. I'm like, oh my God.

Chris: So I spent an hour crawling underneath their house trying to find a valve. Finally i got that squared away. Come home and I get this text. Your grill has been delivered. It's like, my grill is still here.

Chris: I we look out front and there's a guy closing the hatchback to his car, driving away. And there is this tiny little like one burner grill.

Chris: I said, well, that's not right. Sarah walks out. She's like, that's not what we got. was like, huh. So I look it up. And yeah. The grill they delivered is a 499 grill or whatever.

Chris: Some jackhole had moved the tags around at Home Depot.

whoneedswork: Oh, no.

Chris: Yeah. so she was like, I said, I don't want to keep this. I don't, this isn't, she was like, no, this isn't the grill we wanted. I was like, oh, we could go back to Home Depot. i was like, I've already changed because I crawled underneath that house. I was like, I have homeless clothes on now. She's like, you're fine. i had like shorts that were literally like ripped up all the way and yeah, just,

Chris: like, whatever. So she's like, do you think we can get it in the car? I said, he got it in his Honda Civic. Yes. So we load it up and we get it up there. And Blay was like, I don't know what you want me to do.

Chris: I said, well, I want you to take this back. I don't want it. She's like, so do you want the $900 grill? I was like, no, ma'am. I said, I want you to take this back and I will figure something out.

Chris: So you don't want this grill? No. And you don't want the other one. Correct. So which grill do you want?

whoneedswork: Oh,

Chris: Neither? Oh, it was just like, oh my God. And then later, Sunday night.

Chris: Knock, knock, knock on the door. Like, who the hell is this? I opened the door and it was the delivery man from earlier, which evidently he works for DoorDash. Evidently you can DoorDash things from Home Depot.

whoneedswork: interesting.

Chris: He has, it looks like the little drip pan. He said, yeah in broken English, he seemed like a very nice Haitian gentleman. He's like, this this you? No. He's like, I deliver grill. This you?

Chris: was like, I took that back to Home Depot. And he looks at it and then looks at me as the and then hands it out again, like a little kid with the porridge. I'm like, you gotta take that back to home depot or something pal i i don't have the grill i don't know what to tell you he's like but you was like no but you and close the door uh seriously like who was that i was like i was a man with a drip pan shit what i was like just just never mind yeah yeah

whoneedswork: Whoa.

whoneedswork: That is rough.

Chris: so

whoneedswork: we yeah We had a delivery incident the other day. we were feeling lazy after coming home from the beach. So we ordered food. And, you know you know, hey, your food got delayed or something. Then we get a ah notice. Oh, your food's been delivered. I'm like, cool. It's God's son.

whoneedswork: no No food. Wife opened up the thing. And it's got a picture of a house. And I said, it's not my house. It's not my door. This food's been delivered to somebody else's house.

Chris: Was it like your next door neighbor or anything?

whoneedswork: No, no, no, no, no.

Chris: no okay

whoneedswork: didn't even look like it was in my neighborhood.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: They just pick a random house. Done.

whoneedswork: I guess.

Chris: Oh my gosh.

whoneedswork: Yeah, I did not. I don't know. It's never got my food.

Chris: You never did.

whoneedswork: No, no, never got it.

Chris: oh that's awful.

whoneedswork: yeah They're like, well, you can reorder it and we'll have it signed. I'm like, nah, just cancel it and we'll go out somewhere. I had to go out and put pants on like an asshole.

Chris: Pants.

whoneedswork: Yeah, well, I mean, shorts. Come on.

Chris: but Okay. That's about to say.

whoneedswork: Come on.

Chris: Yeah. Well, side tangent to food. i Gluten free. Why is everything gluten free so damn expensive? It is lacking gluten. It should be cheaper.

whoneedswork: I think because it has to use different things.

Chris: Yeah, but it's stupid. But no so we were in, like I said, grabbed lunch while we were out in Ocean City Saturday.

whoneedswork: Sorghum's not cheap.

Chris: It was a seven dollar upcharge to get a gluten free bun.

whoneedswork: That's a lot. That's a little ridiculous.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. And Mike from Bulgaria, that was fun ordering from.

Chris: we want this with gluten free. So you want the gluten? No, you can keep the gluten. Don't eat it. Okay. And then I got a burger and it comes with chips. I was like, can I upgrade that to fries? Oh no, no do that.

Chris: Really?

whoneedswork: Okay.

Chris: Can I get a, can I get a side of fries? Yes. Okay. All right, Mike.

whoneedswork: Wow.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: That's why don't like going out.

Chris: Yeah, i know. Yeah. It's so much easier at home.

whoneedswork: I don't like... It's just so much easier at home. I just eat the same food every day. Just

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Or just, yeah. Give me a pellet.

whoneedswork: give me a pellet and make sure that pellet tells me exactly what I'm supposed to eat per day. um And go...

Chris: Yep.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Yep. Let my little app scan to see what I need. Drop the pellet out done.

whoneedswork: That's all I want.

Chris: We should be there by now.

whoneedswork: Feed me like a hamster.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris: I mean, look at your dogs eat the same brown pellets every day of their life.

whoneedswork: Oh, not my dog.

Chris: Oh,

whoneedswork: Let me tell you, this dog is living her best life since the other one is gone.

Chris: oh.

whoneedswork: She's eating blueberries and carrots and pumpkin and just living the dream. Damn doggy's better than I do.

Chris: Well, she's such a cute monkey face. Yeah.

whoneedswork: That's fair. But also, know, spoiling her.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

Chris: Well, are you ready for topic one?

whoneedswork: I am ready for topic one, and this one is all for you.

Chris: Oh.

whoneedswork: And it's based off of my trivia that you're proud of me from last night. So went to trivia because we we can go out trivia.

Chris: Nice.

whoneedswork: And the first round was fantasy questions, which I got nine out of.

Chris: OK.

whoneedswork: One of them was like, name this author. no, I only got eight of them because I didn't know the Harry Potter bullcrap.

Chris: Oh, yeah, that's.

whoneedswork: It was like, name this author's series. was like, I haven't even heard of that author. Whatever. The toughest question round, which we'll see if you get. In the movie Labyrinth, what is the name of the baby?

Chris: Oh, gosh.

Chris: Is it Joe?

whoneedswork: No.

Chris: No.

whoneedswork: No.

Chris: It's something weird. Probably like William.

whoneedswork: It's like William. Probably one of the most common names.

Chris: I don't know why that came to my

whoneedswork: Boy, your name's William? I've never heard anybody name William before.

whoneedswork: Wow.

whoneedswork: It's Toby.

Chris: Toby.

whoneedswork: It's Toby, and I pulled that out of nowhere and got that one right.

Chris: wow wow that's good for you yeah toby was the town drunk in sharptown

whoneedswork: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: He slept in the jail.

Chris: no we didn't have a we didn't have a jail he was the one that kept falling off his bicycle so we got him a tricycle so he wouldn't fall yep yeah no

whoneedswork: The sheriff will let him out every day.

whoneedswork: That's smart. that's You know, don't fix his drinking problem. Just fix his other problems. so But the next round is what it inspired the question.

whoneedswork: The next round was she handed out a sheet and it had 10 superheroes on there and said, now look. I have, I have, I have, I take homage. I'm angry at this question.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Said, here's the pictures of 10 superheroes. I said, give us their real names. Okay. So first one is Iron Man.

whoneedswork: Tony Stark.

Chris: So Tony's, yeah. um Wait, real name?

whoneedswork: Tony Stark, right?

Chris: I mean, Iron Man is his real name.

whoneedswork: then and and No, no, no. The guy in the suit is Tony Stark.

Chris: Like his alias or whatever. Yeah, yeah okay.

whoneedswork: The guy in suit is Tony Stark.

Chris: Yeah, yeah.

whoneedswork: The next one is Deadpool. Wade Wilson.

Chris: Wade Wilson.

whoneedswork: The next one is Green Lantern. And...

Chris: Which one?

whoneedswork: That's what I said, but I went with Hal Jordan, which was what they were looking for.

Chris: OK.

whoneedswork: so that's a pretty.

Chris: OK. All right.

whoneedswork: It did kind of look like the Hal Jordan of you know old.

Chris: OK. All right.

whoneedswork: Then it was the new Johnny Storm. or Well, Mr. Torch, which is Johnny Storm.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: The Human Torch. um

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: Who else was it? Oh, it was Nightwing.

Chris: Dick Grayson.

whoneedswork: Dick Grayson. That one took me a couple extra seconds. It was the Scarlet Witch. which is Wanda Maximoff, right?

Chris: Maximoff.

whoneedswork: That took us a couple extra seconds.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

whoneedswork: Here are the two I have problems with. Wonder Woman.

Chris: Oh, Diana something.

whoneedswork: They wanted Diana Prince, but that's not her correct name.

Chris: Oh, no.

whoneedswork: Her correct name is Diana, Princess of the Italians or whatever the hell.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah, she is not...

Chris: Yeah, she doesn't have a less name.

whoneedswork: Right, Diana Prince is the name she uses when she's out in the public.

Chris: Yeah, yeah.

whoneedswork: Bullshit.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: And here's the one I really had a problem with.

whoneedswork: Supergirl. Well,

Chris: What did they say?

whoneedswork: what do you think the right answer for Supergirl is?

Chris: um should be Kara Zor-El.

whoneedswork: Oh, Kara Zor-El, a Kryptonian name.

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: No, the answer they correct took was Kara Danvers. This is my problem with the question. Her name is not, her real name is not Cardavers.

whoneedswork: That's her Earth name. Just like Clark Kent. because We had a whole argument. They were like, well, Superman would be Clark Kent. I said, no

Chris: no he wouldn't yeah yeah yeah yes yeah

whoneedswork: Clark Kent is his fake Earth name. His name is Corel, son of Jarrell. ah I was very angry. So then I figured, well, those are all basic. So you should know, you would know all of those.

whoneedswork: So we're going to go with some harder ones for you.

Chris: Oh, God.

whoneedswork: Oh, Daredevil was on there too. that was the other And the other was The Flash.

Chris: Matt Murdock.

Chris: Barry Allen.

whoneedswork: well with barr allen Which was the correct answer.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah, they didn't want Wally West.

whoneedswork: They did not want Wally Wallace. So, I'm going to give you some ones. Let's see what you get.

Chris: Oh.

whoneedswork: Green Arrow.

Chris: Oh, my God. I can see him. um

Chris: oh god why can't why is this always the thing when somebody asks you a question your mind just goes yeah i can my god why can't i think of his name i can see him now yeah i know yeah it's um oliver queen yeah yes yeah all i think it was ollie i was like what is ollie short for

whoneedswork: Right.

whoneedswork: Give me a hint. He's royalty.

whoneedswork: it is Oliver Queen. good Good job. Good job.

whoneedswork: ah I didn't know how to call Molly. The Green Hornet. I don't think you probably even read The Green Hornet.

Chris: Oh, no, no. William.

whoneedswork: It's Brit Reid.

Chris: Brit Reed.

whoneedswork: Here's what I didn't know. Well, I didn't know a lot of these. Judge a real name.

Chris: he's got a real name, doesn't he?

whoneedswork: Judge is not his first name.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Max.

whoneedswork: It's Joe.

Chris: Joe.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Joe Dredd.

whoneedswork: Joe Dredd.

Chris: Man, you're setting your kid up for something when you name him Joe Dredd.

whoneedswork: that's That's true. That's true. ah Spawn.

Chris: God, what is his name? was in the military.

whoneedswork: This is the CIA. He's not the military.

Chris: God, what was his name? He was played by Michael Jai White.

whoneedswork: Yes, not his correct name.

Chris: Yeah, I know. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Hint would be...

Chris: Oh, it's something weird. It's like something. It's like Bill Simmons or something.

whoneedswork: He has the same... Oh, you are so close. It's Al Simmons.

Chris: Al Simmons.

whoneedswork: Yeah, you're so close. Storm. Storm.

Chris: Oh, God. um

Chris: What? right It's kind of like a Diana Prince thing because Aurora Monroe is what she goes by, you know, like here, but she's Aurora or whatever.

whoneedswork: It's true.

Chris: I can't, uh, cause she's, she's Wakandan, isn't she?

whoneedswork: I'm accepting Aurora Monroe as a correct answer.

Chris: Yeah. yeah so

whoneedswork: This list has this one, which I don't even know who this is. This says Wolverine. And I know him as Logan, but this is a different name.

Chris: Oh, no. James Howlett.

whoneedswork: James Howlett, I've never heard that.

Chris: Yep. Yeah.

whoneedswork: ah Colossus.

Chris: Oh, Peter or Piotr. um Oh, God. Rasputin.

whoneedswork: It is Rasputin.

Chris: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because his sister, Magic, is Ileana Rasputin.

whoneedswork: Yes. Yes. ah Let's see. I had a bunch of those. Now here's ah here's going to be a very contentious Marvel.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Captain Marvel.

Chris: Hmm. Well, most recently, I guess it was Carol Danvers.

whoneedswork: Sure.

Chris: But before that, it was.

Chris: are Are you talking about um from DC? You could go with Billy. Oh, I think it was Billy Bounds and that's not definitely not it.

whoneedswork: That's not it. Not it.

Chris: Yeah, Billy, Billy. I can't think of Billy's last name.

whoneedswork: It's Batson. Billy Batson.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Or Mar-Vell would be also be correct.

Chris: Yeah. Or Mar-Vell. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah, yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Let's see. Some of these characters I've ever even heard of. Like Claberella.

Chris: What?

whoneedswork: Yeah, I've never heard of.

Chris: sounds like some knockoff DJ.

whoneedswork: That's fair. ah The Crimson Avenger. Never heard of.

Chris: Crimson Avenger. Hmm.

whoneedswork: Yeah. Never heard of him. That's Lee Travis.

Chris: Oh, oh, good old Lee.

whoneedswork: And they have like Captain America 1 through 13. Yeah,

whoneedswork: yeah which I could name three of them.

Chris: I mean, you get. Yeah, Steve Rogers, Sam Wilson.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Not even... a This has Samantha Wilson?

Chris: Oh. OK.

Chris: Does it have America Chavez?

whoneedswork: No.

whoneedswork: It has Steve Rogers, is Bucky Barnes, Carol Danvers, Isaiah Bradley,

Chris: Bucky Barnes.

Chris: Really?

Chris: Oh, Isaiah Bradley, yeah.

whoneedswork: Daniel Cage, Danielle Cage, Peggy Carter, obviously, Joe Gomez, Ariel Abeghani.

Chris: Oh, Peggy.

Chris: Joe Gomez.

whoneedswork: don't know.

Chris: What the hell?

whoneedswork: Aaron Fisher, Nichelle Wright. This is a bunch of random people.

Chris: Oh, okay.

whoneedswork: Yeah. ah as

Chris: Joe Gomez. I can see where he went by Captain America.

whoneedswork: Very true. um The other ones I saw that you might know, but I was interested in knowing. Oh, The Moon Knight.

Chris: Mark Spector.

Chris: Yeah. But he has his alternate personality, which is, oh God, I can't believe his alternate personality.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mark Spector. Yeah.

whoneedswork: And my wife, by the way, when I got done this trivia quiz, she's like, i don't understand how you know all this nerd stuff. I'm like, well, read the comic books. She's like, I don't watch the Marvel movies. I'm like, I read the comic books.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: re Knowing who Mark Burnock was has nothing to do with watching the show.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I never watched the show, so it didn't help me. And the movie was so abomination.

Chris: Oh, God. Poor Ben Affleck.

whoneedswork: Poor Ben Affleck.

Chris: But luckily, we got that awesome follow-up to it, Elektra.

whoneedswork: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot. there's

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I'm at 570 here.

Chris: Oof.

whoneedswork: Miss Marvel. Kamala Kan or Khan?

Chris: Kamala Khan. Yeah.

whoneedswork: No, don't know Oh, i' probably my favorite Marvel character.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Gotta be Nightcrawler.

Chris: Oh yeah. um

Chris: Kurt Wagner.

whoneedswork: Kurt Wagner. That's correct. You could be on my trivia team today.

whoneedswork: Radioactive man.

Chris: Like from the Simpsons.

whoneedswork: oh

Chris: Oh gosh, I don't know what his name real name was.

whoneedswork: Claude Cain III.

whoneedswork: The Red Beetle?

Chris: Was it Radioactive Man and...

whoneedswork: Uh, I Stab Boy.

Chris: Isotope Boy, yeah.

whoneedswork: Right?

Chris: Yeah, I think that's right, yeah.

whoneedswork: Uh, the Red Beetle? Mm.

Chris: The Red Beetle? I don't know.

whoneedswork: The Red Beetle was Sarah butler Butters. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Chris: Oh, okay.

whoneedswork: It just has, for Rogue, it just has X-Men. But Rogue has a name.

Chris: Yeah, it's...

whoneedswork: I don't know what it is.

Chris: a

whoneedswork: What

Chris: Oh no, it's, um, yeah. What is Rogue's real name?

whoneedswork: do you know?

whoneedswork: What is Rogue?

Chris: Anna Marie.

whoneedswork: There you go.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Uh...

Chris: Cause she eventually marries Gambit, who is Remy LeBou.

whoneedswork: It's fair. The She-Hulk?

Chris: I can't think of her name. can see

whoneedswork: jen Jennifer?

Chris: Jen Walters.

whoneedswork: That is correct.

Chris: Yep.

whoneedswork: There's all... Let's see. There's nine Spider-Mans on this.

Chris: Oh, yeah.

Chris: Peter Parker, Miles Morales. You got, oh, God, all the people from the clone.

Chris: name but he's still in it oh yeah he's 20 spider-man 2099 yeah

whoneedswork: There's Miguel O'Hara.

whoneedswork: Pat Vatir Prabakari.

Chris: yeah he's indian spider-man she has like she has like a ah spider mech ben yes yes uh yeah

whoneedswork: Takuya Yamashiro.

whoneedswork: Ben Parker. Apparently, ah Hobie Brown is Spider Punk.

Chris: Yep. Spider-punk.

whoneedswork: Peter Park Car is Spider Mobile.

Chris: Peter porker is spider ham.

whoneedswork: Peter... Peter Porker. Peter Petarker is Spider Rex.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Spider UK is Billy Braddock.

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: Yeah, I'm going to... There's a lot of Spicers i didn't know about.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Captain Britain. Betsy Braddock.

whoneedswork: This has Supergirl as Linda Lee or Linda Danvers.

Chris: What?

Chris: Linda?

whoneedswork: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Oh.

whoneedswork: The Super Soldier. They have the Super Soldier as Clark Kent.

Chris: What?

whoneedswork: I don't know if I trust this list now.

Chris: Yeah, that's, yeah.

whoneedswork: Superwoman.

Chris: Oh. Super girl, Kara Zor-El, biological cousin of Superman on earth. She frequently uses a secret civilian name, Kara Danvers or Linda Lee Danvers in different comic book eras.

whoneedswork: There you go. But again, her name is not Linda Danvers or Cara Danvers.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. No, it's, it's Kara Zor-El.

whoneedswork: It's Cara Zor-El.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: that's That's her name. I was going to fight to death on that.

Chris: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Let's see.

whoneedswork: lot of people I've never heard of or never will hear. Toro. Never heard of Toro.

Chris: Good old Toro.

whoneedswork: And... Vision. didn't know Vision had a name.

Chris: Vision has a name?

whoneedswork: Apparently there's two names for Vision.

Chris: Really?

whoneedswork: Mm-hmm.

Chris: Oh, I don't know.

whoneedswork: Arrakis? Arrakis?

Chris: Arrak? Oh, OK.

whoneedswork: And then Victor Shade.

Chris: Isn't Arrakis something from Dune?

whoneedswork: Well, that's the planet.

Chris: See? know things.

whoneedswork: Yep.

whoneedswork: Now this hat... It's James Logan Howlett. There you go.

whoneedswork: Gwen Howlett. There's a spider Gwen where she's Wolverine?

Chris: What? Man, I think it's so weird with some of those crawl servers and stuff.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Venom, Eddie Brock.

whoneedswork: Eddie Brock. Didn't even make the list. Where Phenoms not even on here? What the crap?

Chris: Carnage, Cletus Kasady.

whoneedswork: I didn't know that.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: ah Well, that was my cool topic because I just was like, oh, look, I had this for trivia last night.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I was so proud of myself.

Chris: That's pretty neat.

whoneedswork: I got nine of them. My wife was like, you're a nerd. like

Chris: You know what? You got your team points.

whoneedswork: We came in second place.

Chris: See if it wasn't for,

whoneedswork: She let us down because of the freaking music round.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: see, why didn't she know her music?

whoneedswork: It was all... look

whoneedswork: the the The girl who runs the trivia is like, Oh, I always put a One Direction song in there. I don't know, you guys didn't get that. I'm like, who?

Chris: Oh, what?

whoneedswork: Who's One Direction? What's what's a One Direction?

Chris: Oh, isn't that, wasn't that that like British boy band or something?

whoneedswork: Apparently.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Couldn't tell you a single song I have.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: But that's, you know. I have a

Chris: Oh, I, I, you don't, I think, yeah.

whoneedswork: very limited knowledge of music, and One Direction's not on my list.

Chris: Yeah. yeah No, no, no, you should add it to the rotation.

whoneedswork: No. I'm not gonna.

Chris: Yeah. Put that in your old Pandora.

whoneedswork: Nah. I'm good.

whoneedswork: ye I listen to the same like eight songs.

whoneedswork: Well, on to topic two. Before it starts to look like it's gonna thunderstorm its ass off here.

Chris: Yeah. Topic two. Yeah. I got a notification that we're getting rain. Uh, yeah. I think side tangent, my computer's turning into an old man. He says rain coming in about two hours.

whoneedswork: Oh, and about.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: It starts making computers feel it in its knees.

whoneedswork: That old trick knee.

Chris: Yeah. Um, yeah. So it's kind of apropos. I was thinking today while I was in the gym,

Chris: if you hadn't gone into fire and EMS, what would you have done and how different would your life be?

whoneedswork: Okay.

whoneedswork: Oh, probably been homeless. My life. will be quick I don't, you know, ah it's it's weird. I was having this conversation with my, with my wife today because my cousin is lost when it comes to having a career. And I've i've been trying to push her to get her EMT card. and I'm like, just try it.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: And she's like, well, she's so worried about, you know, it's, I'm going see terrible things. I'm like, well, look, you can go work transport and see nothing, you know, just go try. And don't know.

whoneedswork: My life is so far from like, cause well, let's face reality, right? I'm two years from retirement and I'm going to have to get a real job.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Probably.

whoneedswork: don't know that I have the temperament for those jobs.

whoneedswork: Because before I worked for the fire department, I was teaching web design classes for the University Delaware.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Basically, that was what I was doing.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: That doesn't even exist anymore. Right? That's not a thing you can do. can't teach web design.

Chris: I guess, yeah.

whoneedswork: It's all pre-generated websites now. I used to teach you know code and stuff.

Chris: Yeah, they just

whoneedswork: That doesn't exist.

Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah. They just ask chat GPT how to do it. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Right. I probably would have ended up working some mid-tier IT job.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: um I wouldn't have met my wife.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: For sure. For better or worse. have a friend.

Chris: ye yeah

whoneedswork: i was i always have i have a friend It's not very close to me, but we used to hang out and play board games together. And he was a bachelor into his ory probably. He's a little older than me.

Chris: Okay.

whoneedswork: And he lived in a very nice townhouse. And his just whole house was filled with books and board games.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: And i was I always think if I had met my wife, that's what my life would have been.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: you know Books and board games, and I'm living in a sad little bachelor bed.

Chris: I, but I, he's probably not sad. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Probably not. I don't know know. I'm just judging what I would have felt that situation.

Chris: Yeah. yeah

whoneedswork: um

Chris: Right.

whoneedswork: But what I would have done...

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I mean, I had always aspired to be a lawyer. It was always an aspiration.

Chris: Ooh.

Chris: Wow, OK.

whoneedswork: then I realized that I didn't want to do it more.

Chris: Like criminal law or civil law

whoneedswork: Probably would do criminal law. Yeah, probably would have done criminal law.

Chris: Hmm.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Prosecution?

whoneedswork: I don't know. Maybe defense at this point in my life.

Chris: Well, hmm.

whoneedswork: But that would have been on the list.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: That was kind of what I was working towards with my degree because I didn't want to teach.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: I had no desire to be a teacher.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: and i am If I had to pay the bills, I probably wouldn't end up teaching. you know And I would be a miserable son of a bitch.

Chris: yeah yeah yeah that's like i look back i was like yeah i could i could see myself teaching

whoneedswork: Yeah. I ah really have...

Chris: but again yeah like i mean without this job one yeah i think about all the days i would have had to have worked

whoneedswork: Right. Right.

Chris: Throughout the last 20 some years.

whoneedswork: Well, that's why I don't... I respect you and your rank and your position. I couldn't do your job. Right. I don't have the temperament, I think, especially now to sit in an office all day.

Chris: yes i Yeah. i I walk laps. I get out.

whoneedswork: Sure. But like, if you made me,

Chris: i will I walk laps so I don't snap.

whoneedswork: if you made me go work a job, because my job is not task-based for the most part, right?

Chris: Yeah, right.

whoneedswork: My job is, response-based. So something comes in, I do it.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: But if you made me work a job, like I think i have a friend who he has a job where basically he just reads medical reports all day and he has to read so many medical reports and he does it for eight hours a day, every day.

whoneedswork: i don't know that I wouldn't jump off a building, but then like,

Chris: Whew, yeah.

whoneedswork: is that me saying that because I'm 20 plus years into the fire service going, I've worked this career, I worked this, you know, if that was all you knew, you know, but I just can't even imagine what my life would be like if I had to work an office job.

Chris: Yeah. yeah

whoneedswork: Right.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Cause I,

Chris: Yeah. That's like the other day yeah text my wife. i was like, I, I could never be an accountant. I have to be one today for work. And it sucks because the stupid city wanted to figure out how much money we spent on special events and coverage and stuff like that. And I was like, oh, okay, we'll give them a roundabout number. They're like, no, we want the exact amount.

Chris: So I had to like find who worked it and then what their pay code was at the time and then what I was like, oh my God, this sucks. Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah, I couldn't imagine that kind of job.

Chris: Right.

whoneedswork: I don't want to disrespect people's careers.

Chris: Oh yeah. I mean, everybody's got their niche.

whoneedswork: like But some jobs feel like they're just made for people to make up stuff to do.

Chris: Yes.

whoneedswork: right like

Chris: Yes.

whoneedswork: I feel like there are definitely some people who work for the city of Salisbury who their jobs are just there to make up work for other people to do.

Chris: Yes.

whoneedswork: right they

Chris: Yes. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Your job's a bullshit job, right? like you not let Let's be honest here.

Chris: Right.

whoneedswork: like

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Because if you didn't exist in the in the grand scheme of things as a job, everything still would happen.

Chris: Yeah. yeah Yeah. There is nobody that would be like, but but I can't whatever.

whoneedswork: Right, yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I couldn't do that job, right?

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: And i I struggle now because I feel like the futility of our job weighs on me heavily.

whoneedswork: but I couldn't imagine a job where I have no impact. I mean, inside baseball, right? How much of our response, we go to what?

whoneedswork: 16,000 calls a year in Salisbury.

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: How many of those calls do you think are really impactful?

Chris: like fifteen thousand nine hundred and ninety nine

whoneedswork: I would say less than 50, right?

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: right

Chris: I'd say more than that, but yeah, i mean, it isn't the vast majority.

whoneedswork: Do you think thousand? I don't think it's a thousand. Right. I mean, of the fire calls we go to...

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I could not show up on almost all of those calls. And the the end result would be the same, right?

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: One call, and like legitimately for our lifetimes, it's like handfuls of calls where you as a firefighter on just the fire side of it, make a real difference, right?

Chris: yeah yeah yeah

whoneedswork: Handful calls. yeah EMS side,

whoneedswork: 30% of your calls? I don't even know if it's that high.

Chris: well i think it's it depends on how how deep you want to go with made an impact

whoneedswork: Sure. Right. It was like as a paramedic, I always felt like the respiratory distress that was going to get exasperated and that person was going to die if we didn't step in, right?

Chris: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.

whoneedswork: that Those are the calls. like

Chris: Right.

whoneedswork: I didn't live for cardiac arrest because for the most part, those people didn't really need our services either way, right?

Chris: the Yeah.

whoneedswork: Diabetics, we we helped them, but again, they're not really making an impact. we're just It was those very rare respiratory distresses or delivering a baby.

whoneedswork: Those calls were impactful and that's probably 30% of your calls.

Chris: Yeah. yeah yeah i can give you that

whoneedswork: But if I was like a guy who's greeting people at Home Depot, that's zero impact.

Chris: yeah yeah yeah but there's a part of me that because i was at a conference or something and somebody's like people always joke you know what are you gonna do after you know retire from the fire department people yeah i'm gonna be the you know the greeter at walmart you can't do that firefighters are cut different i was like

whoneedswork: Like...

whoneedswork: Like...

Chris: There's part of me that after 25 years of this madness, maybe some mundane idiocy isn't, you know, now, yeah, I don't think I could do it five days a week, eight hours a day, but yeah.

whoneedswork: Right.

whoneedswork: I always think like I could just go be a bartender at a brewery or something.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Or like there's just no such thing as a stressful day.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: like How stressful can your day possibly be?

Chris: Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go be the, you know, the cart guy at a golf course.

whoneedswork: And I thought like think about this a lot with our jobs. We are trained or developed in our careers this crazy ability to just make decisions.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Right?

Chris: Yep.

whoneedswork: Like, when my wife and I were talking about was like for paramedics. Like, paramedics just make decisions.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Firefighters just make decisions. With, like, almost no information, no oversight, we just make decisions. Right?

Chris: Unless the decision is, where are we going for lunch?

whoneedswork: that or what we're gonna have for dinner those two decisions but i think it was some weirdly way that is tied into this right like you just get burnt out on making decisions right you as a paramedic the most stressful thing of your job is that you wake up at two o'clock in the morning you have no idea where you're at and in 30 seconds from that moment you're making life and death decisions

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: right and you're like gotta give them this drug you and you're you're you just make decisions and we are trained and experienced to make decisions could you imagine going to work a job where they expect you to like fill out paperwork and justify your decisions you're like no that i don't hammy i don't listen to you this had to get done i got it done shut up right

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Damn it, William.

whoneedswork: You said, damn it, William, with your weird name? Like... but we we've We just make decisions. we've we've that's like I always say like the the secret to our job is that when everything is going to hell, we make it look like the ship is still going forward.

Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: It might be a duck drowning underneath of the under the water, but above water it looks like we're making something happen.

Chris: Oh, yeah. Yep.

whoneedswork: I don't think that translates to, from what I see from other people, to real world.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah, no, it doesn't.

whoneedswork: like If you were working at you know my wife's job and you just made unilateral decisions people would be you're fired but you can't make decisions what are you talking about the the rookie right the the brand new paramedic in the salisbury fire department makes decisions with nobody there's nobody saying nope that's our own decision or hey you have to run this by me they just make decisions

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

Chris: yeah

Chris: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

whoneedswork: You don't do that other jobs, right?

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Like, and I don't know that we're trained or ability. So part of my brain, I always tell my wife, was like I was I just want to make it go to a job where i don't have to make any decisions, right?

Chris: Yeah. So

whoneedswork: Oh, you want me to pour this handle? Cool. Here you go. Like, I don't want to have to think.

Chris: he comes up, so what beer you suggest? Ah, read the sign.

whoneedswork: right yeah the there are eight there are eight beers you pick the one you want i'll give you that one i'm not making any decisions for you yeah i i it's a it's it's weird because we're you and i are at this point our careers like where we have these thoughts i feel like you wouldn't have thought about this 20 years ago right because we i have the greatest job in the world why would i even consider another job

Chris: No questions.

Chris: yeah yeah

Chris: no no yeah exactly yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah no

whoneedswork: We're bulletproof. nothing Nothing can go wrong. This is going the greatest job. but We're going work here for 40 years.

Chris: yeah nope

whoneedswork: But now you're on the other side going, what am I going to do?

Chris: yeah yeah

whoneedswork: ah Even your job, like could you imagine a real world job where you you just you just make decisions? You send emails out and make decisions.

Chris: yeah right yeah yeah we needed something done it's now done move on

whoneedswork: and That's the the world? You won't be able to deal with Tammy saying, no, no, no, no bud. and put this in a NIST font and send me this other report. and That's not how this works.

whoneedswork: Right.

Chris: It's like the yeah the with the Ron Swanson effect.

whoneedswork: Yeah, it just has to happen.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: right we just but and like

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Firefighters, will mo well we will screw up everything.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: We will break everything.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: But 30 seconds later with duct tape and a dowel rod and we had a part sitting around the shop for the last 45 years, it's working again.

Chris: Yep. Yeah.

whoneedswork: And some chief's going to walk in there why does this shit look like ants? But it works.

Chris: Exactly. Yep.

whoneedswork: You know.

Chris: yeah yeah ah yeah

whoneedswork: Why did you guys zip tie the hose bundles together? Well, chief, it was falling out and we had zip ties and old Willie Pete said like back in the 40s he saw this. You know. We just, that's how we operate. That's how we do things. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle working for other people.

Chris: yeah and i mean that's if you bring that up i mean that's yeah that we joke about it but that's the reason why the people call the fire department because We fix it. We don't, we don't take no for an answer.

whoneedswork: we will We will beat our heads against a wall before we let something beat us.

Chris: I mean, I, yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Which, and my wife gets very frustrated at that with me sometimes. Cause I'm like, no, dammit, but this is going to get done. just just Just let it go. I tell you, that is one of the hardest things with my job is not finishing things saying,

whoneedswork: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Sure.

Chris: I worked on a couple hours today. I'll finish it tomorrow.

whoneedswork: Right.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: i This is not what we do.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: you

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: We don't leave things for the next shift to do or, you know.

Chris: Mm-hmm. yeah yeah

whoneedswork: yeah It was because we just did this the gym project at station one, you know, finishing up. And i like we got busy and it got to be like nine o'clock. And I was like, I just can't go over there and keep working.

whoneedswork: I'm just going to have and that felt weird to be like, we're going have to let out the next shift handle it.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: You know.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: But it's just. But we would never do that on a call. Like ah a we would we would do everything in our power.

Chris: No. No.

Chris: Right.

whoneedswork: And people call us for crazy stuff. where I'm like, i don't. Why are you calling me?

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Like, lady, I feel like a 12-year-old most days.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I don't think I need an adult in almost every situation. Don't ask.

Chris: Yeah. Well, and that's like,

whoneedswork: But then I can't.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Just yeah. Here, here you go. Fix it.

whoneedswork: And we...

Chris: But ah yeah the whole thing about not wanting to stop, I mean, we run into that all the time. You got yeah a deep seated fire or something. Guys are in there just doing it.

Chris: And it's like, I don't want to back out. I still have this to do. Yeah. Bring me another bottle. Let me keep stay right here.

whoneedswork: and unfortunately it's what gets a lot of us hurt you know you know and we cannot accept it's like we're almost hardwired not to accept that we have to walk away

Chris: Yeah. yeah

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Right? Like one of the biggest changes in our career, you and i was terminating a resuscitation in the field.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: And you remember how hard that is.

Chris: Oh, my gosh.

whoneedswork: And still, people still have problems with it.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Right? Because we that's not how we operate.

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: we

Chris: Right. Yeah.

whoneedswork: We're working that person to the hospital.

Chris: Mm-hmm.

whoneedswork: Very, very rarely 10 years ago did you call anybody in the field.

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Right?

Chris: Yeah. What medication in the bag haven't we tried?

whoneedswork: Right.

Chris: Can't we try it? Shouldn't we try it?

whoneedswork: We're just going to keep throwing medications at somebody, you know, and the biggest change in our career, I would say there's two big changes in our career that have made everything better. Terminator resuscitation and automatic stretchers.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Right. Like, oh, my God, I can't remember.

Chris: Come on, this old man and a half stretchers were great.

whoneedswork: who it was. it might have been Fruitland. They were in like their backup ambulance and they came to a call and they didn't have a power stretcher and i was what animals are you?

whoneedswork: but but or is This it

Chris: Did guys just get done filming a rescue emergency?

whoneedswork: is a vintage ambulance? What's going on here? You got this for a classic car show? This is a joke, right?

Chris: God, do you remember when we went from the aluminum stretchers to the striker stretchers?

whoneedswork: But

whoneedswork: yeah those things were heavy we used to take them in the houses i remember yes i was gonna say i remember bouncing the wheels off stairs with those stupid stretchers why why ah

Chris: Oh my God.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah!

Chris: you Do you remember bouncing the wheels?

Chris: yes yes why why did we do that but it was literally one of those things it was like we picked the patient up and you would pull that release and just go on um down the whole thing i guess if you slipped it would lock i so you all went down in a heap

whoneedswork: i don't know i the

whoneedswork: mm-hmm we right so you all die don't know we we used to never put people in stair chairs right like we would just carry people out

Chris: yes

Chris: I can't. That was a right. Yeah, that was like one of those flags that I can't do my job.

whoneedswork: right yeah and yeah and now i look at people go i'm not lifting anybody what are you talking about

Chris: what What do you mean used the stair chair?

Chris: Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: You know, I used to, when I worked in the city for that short period, people were like, yeah, ABC, ambulate before carry.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: And that was like our our world. They were right.

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: Think of how much back injuries we've done to ourselves over for the years, being Superman, picking people up and carrying them everywhere for no good reason.

Chris: Oh yeah.

Chris: Oh yeah. oh Yeah. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah. But I really don't know that I would have, I i think I would have worked in the fire department come hell or high water.

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: I don't look back on my career and go, I wish I did something else.

whoneedswork: I think I look back on my career and say, i wish it wasn't ending this way.

Chris: yeah yeah yeah it is yeah no i agree yeah yeah

whoneedswork: And that's just the fire service is different than it was when I started. you know good many good things some things I don't agree with but it's just it's different fire servers but I don't ever look back and say I wish I didn't do it you know boy I just wish about I took more naps

Chris: yeah

whoneedswork: yeah thanks yeah

Chris: that's I mean, you're still the maniac that schedules a haircut for nine o'clock.

whoneedswork: yeahp ye And I'm 22 years on the job doing that stupid shit.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: hu i I did it literally three days ago.

whoneedswork: Okay, so you're smarter than me because I can tell you you're smarter than me. oh My friend comes up to me says, hey, I'm off July 3rd. I said, oh, I work evens next month. I'm also off July 3rd. We can go do something.

whoneedswork: Right? He says, cool, we're ah we'll leave your house early and we'll get out and we're going to play disc golf. Every year we do like a we go breweries and play disc golf.

whoneedswork: It's a big little event.

Chris: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

whoneedswork: And i said, yeah, that sounds great. I said, I don't work until the 6th. So, yeah, I'm good. if i don't If I work the 6th, my friend,

Chris: That means you work the second.

whoneedswork: what day do I work before that?

Chris: Yeah, the second.

whoneedswork: The second, what what morning do I get off?

Chris: The third.

whoneedswork: The third. i literally did it again.

Chris: third.

whoneedswork: i had to go to my friend yesterday and say, I'm an idiot. I won't be home until 10 o'clock and then we can go.

Chris: yeah yeah

whoneedswork: But just so you know, I'm an idiot and I work the fucking night before. can't, I don't know what's wrong with me.

Chris: yeah but she probably yeah she probably has mastery over her agenda and calendar and everything yeah it's one or the other ron yeah

whoneedswork: I'm the like the lady who can't open doors.

whoneedswork: I mean it's think I gotta take the doors at this point because usually the only people that know that I'm an idiot when it comes to my calendar are you and my wife so it's not as big of the oh and all of the people I tell them on the internet other than that but

Chris: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. Well, and that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or all the people at work that can see my calendar.

whoneedswork: I'm such an idiot. I don't, I complained by my mother not understanding my my schedule, which I have worked for 20 years because I've worked D shift work for 21 years, 21, you know, and i still can't get a date.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris: yeah it's

whoneedswork: Tell, tell get old.

Chris: yeah yeah beats the alternative though no see i yeah i couldn't work at a coffee shop yeah i think you got ready to brewery yeah yeah get smacked

whoneedswork: It does beat the alternative.

whoneedswork: it's It's a coffee shop. way too high stress. Yeah. Because people will be in there yelling. No one ever goes into a bar and yells at the bartender. But people definitely yell.

whoneedswork: You get smacked. You definitely go see people get like, need my coffee now. It's taking so long. I'm like, yo. But I'm going to tell you of all the emergencies in the world, your coffee is the... I would be fired.

whoneedswork: I might not know you get my first shift.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: I would be fired.

Chris: Yeah. Cause I would be the type that I need my coffee. Well, sir, you're not drinking coffee. Your frou frou makawaka is not coffee.

whoneedswork: Or, let me tell you, buddy, your coffee is not my emergency. Then they'll be like, ah that's not the attitude we need here at Starbucks Incorporated.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Nice chill job. but daytime I don't want to be the nighttime bartender. I want be like the daytime bartender at a brewery.

Chris: Yes.

whoneedswork: I see like four people total.

Chris: Yep. yeah yeah Yeah, like 11 4.35 o'clock.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yep, yep, yep. Let me sleep in By the way, we're going closed from like one o'clock to like two, so I can take a nap.

Chris: You got prepped for the evening rush.

whoneedswork: Right, and then, you know, and I'm out of there by 4.30.

Chris: Yeah.

whoneedswork: Yeah, that sounds great.

Chris: Yeah. It does. Yeah.

whoneedswork: Well,

Chris: Yeah. On that note...

whoneedswork: on that note, my storm is literally rolling in on my house.

Chris: oh yeah uh that's that summertime hot humid always chance for a thunderstorm i guess

whoneedswork: Apparently it's supposed to rain tomorrow and Friday. Maybe I can stop getting updates from work about how you guys have no water.

Chris: hmm yeah folks uh take care conserve your water if you have to

whoneedswork: So.

whoneedswork: Conserve water. It's not an emergency, folks. Unless it really is emergency. Then you call the fire department.

Chris: Otherwise, take a breath and see what you can do.

whoneedswork: Yeah.

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