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Tackles and Tinnies Presents - The Fantasy Files - E5 - R11: Round 10 Recap & Origin and Bye Round 12 Strategies
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G'day legends! In this episode of Fantasy Files, Ryan and Adam break down all the action from Round 10 and get you prepped for the upcoming State of Origin and the tricky Round 12 bye round. Additonally, they still have to deal with round 11!
Here's what we've got in store:
- Ryan Papenhuyzen's Massive Performance: We dive into Paps' incredible stats and what it means for your SuperCoach team. Spoiler: He went absolutely bonkers!
- State of Origin Insights: Key players to watch and how Origin selections might shake up your fantasy lineup. Who's in, who's out, and how to stay ahead of the pack.
- Round 12 Major Bye Round: Strategic advice to navigate the upcoming bye round and keep your team competitive. Don't get caught out!
- Trade Targets and Must-Haves: Identifying the best trade targets and must-have players for the next few rounds. Get the edge on your mates!
Equip yourself with the knowledge to outsmart your competition and dominate your fantasy league!
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Transcript
Opening and Recent Wins
00:00:04
Tackles and Tinnies
the standard crack for tackles and tinnies and the ah standard zero sugar solo during the midweek. Adam, my friend, stranger danger, how are you?
00:00:15
Adam
Yeah, good, mate. I am. Yeah, doing really well. Supercoach is going well.
Reflections on OKC Thunder's Victory
00:00:20
Adam
ah Titans got a win last weekend, which is rare. um Huge win for my Thunder today, which is awesome. So got the stubby cooler ready to go.
00:00:30
Adam
Sell bit of a celebratory beverage tonight, which is good.
00:00:33
Tackles and Tinnies
I was just about to rip into you and I was just looking at the um the score. But, yeah, well done, OKC. Come back. Look at that fourth quarter, 34-19.
00:00:42
Adam
Oh man, it was, I was stressing.
00:00:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Unreal.
00:00:44
Adam
I was stressing. Jokic hit this like turnaround fadeaway bomb. Couldn't believe it. Thought they were going to lose, but yeah, it
Magic Round Highlights and Bets
00:00:52
Adam
was a big game. So I was very happy about that.
00:00:54
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm just literally looking at the box score on my phone right now and looks like the Jokic and Murray show and then OKC was...
00:00:58
Adam
What's the highlights, man?
00:01:01
Tackles and Tinnies
pretty even all the way through, which is, I guess that that's the depth for OKC, isn't it?
00:01:06
Adam
Yeah, the fourth was, um watch the highlights from the fourth. It was crazy. Like, just shot after shot. It was awesome.
00:01:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, I done have definitely have to do that. Well, Adam, you haven't been on for a couple of weeks, so I think let's quickly talk about MagicRand because obviously that was ah a huge weekend and you made a huge effort coming up from um Hobart.
00:01:21
Adam
Yeah,
00:01:25
Adam
yeah.
00:01:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, give us your ah highlights and lowlights, my friend.
00:01:25
Adam
Yeah.
00:01:29
Adam
yeah ah Highlight was pretty obvious, I think. Mr. Sharp, for the listeners, I put a bet on Fletcher Sharp to score a hat trick. Odds of 201, just a little $5.
00:01:43
Adam
ah And so he scored two in the first 10 minutes and we're all just cheering, shared the bet with everyone. um And when he went over for that third one, we were just going crazy. It was awesome. So, um yeah, we had a lot of drinks on on Mr. Sharp, which was great.
00:01:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it was a... 100%.
00:01:59
Adam
um And also brought him in in Supercoach 2, which was just icing on the cake, really. um
00:02:04
Tackles and Tinnies
hon of viant
00:02:06
Adam
So that was that was the highlight, that Knights game.
Magic Round Low Points
00:02:09
Adam
Low light, probably two for me. The first one was two minutes before the Roosters game kicks off, a good friend Andy turns to me and goes, hey, you are you playing Toya or Billy Smith?
00:02:22
Adam
And I was like, I reckon Billy Smith is better. He'd like, oh, okay, I've got it on Toya. I'll change it to Billy Smith. And Sam Smith, that's knocked out two minutes in. All the ball goes right. It's just Toya all night.
00:02:34
Adam
And he's just giving me death stares. So then fast forward to Sunday, we're walking to the game. Chris has got the VC on drinky. He's like, do I captain Karaz or take the loop?
00:02:46
Adam
And I was like, man, you've got to take the loop. Like you're ranked 200th. Like just take the 130 points and don't stress. And like two minutes into the game or five minutes into the game, Christ scores. And then he scores again. And then he scores again. I've just got Chris shooting me daggers all whole game, which is not helping my reputation.
00:03:04
Adam
But i promise I promise I'm trying to help. um So that would be the lowlights for me.
Magic Round Enjoyment
00:03:09
Adam
A couple bit bit of bad advice led the boys Australia a little bit. But it was an awesome weekend. It was so much fun.
00:03:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, well, mate, it's unreal. Like, it's, if you have never been, guys, you 100% have to go. It's just, as they say, it's the schoolies for adults or it's the Christmas for rugby league. It's all the above. It was better than anyone could ever expect it in my eyes.
00:03:34
Tackles and Tinnies
um yeah you Yeah, and again, Adam, you're all recognized around this podcast for giving shit advice, so your ah mantle stays true.
00:03:40
Adam
you ah Hopefully, I can find out friends.
00:03:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe it's just a scumbag move to um win the head-to-head battles.
00:03:49
Adam
You know I don't check head to head.
00:03:50
Tackles and Tinnies
But the slander may continue after this week.
00:03:53
Adam
We'll see. Hopefully can get some good advice this week for a change.
00:03:56
Tackles and Tinnies
We'll talk.
00:03:56
Adam
Hmm.
Supercoach Rankings and Strategy
00:03:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes. Yes. Well, now the listeners are listening, mate. So now we are definitely have to be on our game. So Adam, can you quickly give rundown where you're currently ranked team value and what did you score last week?
00:04:11
Adam
Yeah, um so I scored 1680, so had a pretty strong week. um Another week of like really high scoring. um Pappy Captain helped. Obviously, a lot of us had that, which was awesome. So that was kind of a big shifter this week.
00:04:27
Adam
um So I went up a bit in ranks. I think I'm, I want say I'm overall, um which I'm really happy with, obviously. That's great. ah And team value, I think it's...
00:04:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep.
00:04:41
Adam
think team value is around 15. I think it's exactly 16 team value. um So yeah, sitting pretty well.
00:04:50
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:04:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, absolutely killing it. And hu you are definitely the super coach champion in the ah the group chat. So we do like to listen to you, but yeah, sometimes goes a two-way street on that one.
00:04:58
Adam
thing.
00:05:04
Tackles and Tinnies
But listeners, I also did pretty well and I thought I was going to do better than I did in regards to the ranking for the week, but I managed to score fifteen forty one Overall, my sit starts are pretty good, maybe like one or two, like 20 points here or there, but nothing too crazy.
00:05:15
Adam
Bye.
00:05:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously at the Pappenhausen captain, But actually went down 612 spots. A little bit frustrating in that regard. scored some currently ranked 5,657.
00:05:31
Tackles and Tinnies
um Still good, but yeah, definitely frustrating from this week.
Challenges of Origin Period
00:05:37
Tackles and Tinnies
But my team is still growing. My team value still peaking. I'm probably around 16.3 million um with more boys this week who we'll talk about in regards to um their break-even.
00:05:51
Tackles and Tinnies
I think my strategy is literally just trying to make as much money as I can because the way I'm burning trades, is I think I'm going have to have the best team possible and just sit and forget probably three weeks and not touch Supercoach.
00:05:54
Adam
Perfect.
00:05:57
Adam
Hmm.
00:06:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, so I'm pretty happy again. Yeah, struggling with the um origin period coming up. I'm desperate for some players. I've currently got about 11, but there is some murmurs that certain players will not make the origin team for both Queensland and New South Wales.
00:06:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, so I think we just straight into Origin chat, mate.
00:06:22
Adam
Hmm. o
00:06:23
Tackles and Tinnies
um Who are you thinking in your team is a definite in for Origin or who would be some players that potentially look like buying just due to their form but their Origin eligibility is probably going to put
Origin Team Selections Debate
00:06:38
Tackles and Tinnies
them over the line?
00:06:38
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts?
00:06:40
Adam
Yeah, it's interesting how the narratives get spun. You know, start of the year, it was a lot of Terrell's a lock for origin Horses a lock for Origin. And as much as the fans can think that, you get closer and you start hearing these whispers of, you know, maybe they're going to pick Jacob Saifidi over Terrell May, which just sounds crazy.
00:06:57
Adam
But, you know, these ex-players, like these coaches, they just think about the game differently than we do.
00:06:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Mm-hmm.
00:07:02
Adam
And... you know They might just look at it and say, Jacob Saifidi runs hard, whereas Terrell May is trying to offload, so we don't want him in origin. um So it's hard to say for sure. i mean I've got a lot of fringe guys. Tedesco is probably in a two-man battle with Edwards for that fullback spot.
00:07:20
Adam
Ponga's form has been bad, but you'd think he's probably ahead there at fullback for Queensland. Uh, I've got Munster. You say he's going to be there. Tino Haas. Those guys will be there. Surely Terrell gets a run for New South Wales.
00:07:35
Adam
Um, those are probably my only origin guys at the moment. Oh, and Cleary, of course. Um, he'll be there as well.
00:07:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:07:41
Adam
Um, I've moved on a few of the guys like Horse. ah Yeah, he might not make it, which would be a bit of a bit of salt in the wound as someone that's only sold him last week.
00:07:52
Adam
ah And then there's a lot of fringe guys like Karaz might be up for a spot. um That right wing for New South Wales is really interesting because... Toto's a bit underdone.
00:08:04
Adam
Lomax is coming back this week, but he's a bit underdone. You've got Turbo in the mix. You've got Karaz in the mix. And that could be really pivotal for Supercoach, depending on who Laurie Daly decides to pick on those wings.
00:08:14
Tackles and Tinnies
All
00:08:15
Adam
ah So it makes trades this week a little bit tricky. Yeah,
00:08:21
Tackles and Tinnies
right, for sure. And I think, Adam, you might disagree with me, but the origin chat for New South Wales in regards to the fullback, I disagree.
00:08:22
Adam
it's big thing.
00:08:29
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it's a three-horse race. What your thoughts on Pappy having a crack?
00:08:33
Adam
Nah, I don't think so. i mean he's I mean, he's been really good. i just don't think... I think a lot of what he does is on the back of the Storm, and he his role is very simple for the Storm. It's just attack.
00:08:48
Adam
you know Not to say he doesn't defend, but he doesn't have to do as much of the nitty-gritty stuff that you need to win an Origin game. And I think Edwards is the incumbent, or Tedesco, with all his experience. I can't see him unseating either of those guys.
00:09:02
Adam
ah Maybe he's like the 18th man because they're on the buy round 12. Um, maybe he jags a bench spot at some point as like a energy come on if we're down with like 10 minutes left.
00:09:15
Adam
But yeah, I don't think he's good getting the one Jersey.
00:09:20
Tackles and Tinnies
just crazy because arguably he's probably the inform fullback for the entire league. And obviously that's interlating performance last week scoring 183 or whatever it was.
00:09:30
Adam
Hmm.
00:09:30
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, it's pretty hard to keep him out of there. And i yes, the nitty gritty, he's very flashy obviously, but...
00:09:38
Adam
Oh, yeah, easily.
00:09:39
Tackles and Tinnies
I beg to differ. I think he's a very hard worker. ah He does take those hard runs. Yes, he's not a bigger body like Dylan Edwards or as bulky and stocky as Tedesco, but he's more than happy to put his hand up.
00:09:51
Tackles and Tinnies
But you've got so many boys out there who you could do that role as well. like if you We've put in Critter and Latrell Mitchell in centre. Is that fair call?
00:10:01
Adam
ah yeah easily
00:10:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Those two boys are great from the backfield as well. And obviously that Toto, Lomax, Karaz, Turbo for those
Impact of Origin on Team Dynamics
00:10:14
Tackles and Tinnies
four wing spots, and all those boys are huge meter eaters as well.
00:10:18
Adam
Oh, they're workers, yeah.
00:10:19
Tackles and Tinnies
It's just now it's just, yeah. So Pappy doesn't necessarily even have to do that as well. And I think you almost have to reward the best player in the best form.
00:10:31
Tackles and Tinnies
He's finally healthy for the first time in years
00:10:32
Adam
ah
00:10:36
Tackles and Tinnies
I would just love to see him play. As you said, the bench spot might be a viable option, but I'd love to see him just, when the forwards are tied for Queensland, him just pounding through the middle.
00:10:46
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm more scared of Pappenhausen playing as a Queensland supporter than I am Dylan Edwards at the back.
00:10:50
Adam
and
00:10:53
Adam
Yeah, I mean, he's electric. What I would say is, do you think he's in better form than Teddy? Because I feel like what Teddy's been doing this year is pretty unreal.
00:11:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes.
00:11:02
Adam
Like the Roosters aren't a very good side. yeah They've lost so many players. Like you look at Sam Walker's out with the ACL. They lost Kiri. They lost Manu. um They lost Terrell May, obviously.
00:11:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:11:18
Adam
Yeah, so Ali'i, exactly. They've lost like half a roster of like rep players and Teddy's been unreal. Like I think even if you just look at the super coach side of things, like he's averaging almost 100.
00:11:31
Adam
Like if you put him on the Storm, what's he averaging, you know? So ah like I think –
00:11:35
Tackles and Tinnies
and
00:11:38
Adam
If you're going on form, I'd probably say the experience would get Tedesco the spot. If you're going on incumbency, I think it's Edwards, obviously, because he's the incumbent. i Yeah, I don't see them picking Pappy.
00:11:53
Tackles and Tinnies
I'd also like to interject that I think Tedesco ball is a real thing. And I think Pappenhausen and Dylan Edwards play a role better than Teddy does.
00:12:04
Adam
Yeah.
00:12:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Teddy's like, give me the ball.
00:12:05
Adam
yes
00:12:06
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm ready to win the game, which is obviously a great thing in its own right. But you've got two dominant halves, most likely Moses Cleary, if not c Cleary Luai. Yeah, I think the Pappenhausen role there does suit
Strategic Trading Tips
00:12:21
Tackles and Tinnies
better. But again, works for me. I don't have to waste a trade on Pappenhausen or hopefully Tedesco as well.
00:12:27
Tackles and Tinnies
ah So for supercoach purposes, guys, I'm really hoping that's the case.
00:12:28
Adam
Oh, look, I...
00:12:32
Adam
Yeah, I don't think it would necessarily be, like, an awful decision to pick Pappy. I just don't, like, I'm more coming from the fact that i don't think they'll do it. Like, I just can't see Laurie Daly actually doing it.
00:12:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:12:40
Adam
Not to say that it's a bad idea. don't think it's bad a bad idea at all.
00:12:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:12:47
Adam
So, yeah, I mean, for SuperCraft side the game, I'm just...
00:12:47
Tackles and Tinnies
So how many players do you reckon currently? Yeah, fair call. How many players currently do you think? So even cut really smokies. So like Olakowatu is probably a smoky or maybe even a Nanai.
00:13:03
Tackles and Tinnies
who How many players you reckon you got? i'm pretty sure Horsburgh a lock.
00:13:07
Adam
Yeah, well, I mean, I've sold him anyway, so I'm just having a quick look. I have one, two, three, four.
00:13:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:13:16
Adam
So I have 13, and that's including Ponga and Tedesco. um So let's say most likely at least one of them will be there. um That's after my trade this week, which we can talk about later.
00:13:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:13:26
Adam
Yeah. um So, yeah, I think it's a really important week for trading because on one hand, you don't really want to go early on guys with origin risk because if they're then missing, like Ola Kuwatu is a great example.
00:13:29
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:13:42
Adam
He mainly plays all the major buys. If he doesn't make origin, like you have to have him. But if you bring him in this week, even with the good matchup, if he makes origin, he's then missing a bunch of games and you just don't need him.
00:13:49
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:13:54
Adam
So um you kind of don't want to overcommit to any players. But by the same token, you need to be prepared for round 12. You get the extra trade. so you get three trades that week for free.
00:14:08
Adam
Um, but you can't go in with 10 players and say, yeah, I'll just make three trades and get to 13 because you can have one or two players get HIA, get injured, surprise origin selections.
00:14:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:14:19
Adam
So it's a really important week. Like you need to protect yourself from that carnage just in case it happens. Um, um So i I definitely wouldn't be buying anyone that's a high chance of or or a decent chance of origin.
00:14:27
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:14:33
Adam
i think this week it's get to, like you probably want to be minimum 12 players heading into this week that are going to play around 12.
Timing Trades for Nathan Cleary
00:14:41
Adam
That way, even if you get one or two or three injuries, you can trade up to that 13 next week.
00:14:48
Adam
How are you looking for round 12?
00:14:49
Tackles and Tinnies
What a luxury to have a boost this week. Isn't that right?
00:14:55
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm currently on 11 with the two trades I've made. I could have got to 12, but without spoiling one of my trades, I'm pretty sure...
00:14:59
Adam
Yes, I'm aware.
00:15:05
Tackles and Tinnies
not must-have, but the the route I'm going in terms of my strategy, he's definitely a guy that I'm highly considering. I think he'll make plenty of cash and you can probably figure out who that is.
00:15:13
Adam
So you've got 11 solid numbers?
00:15:16
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah. Yeah. Nico went early on. I'm so Good work, Nico.
00:15:21
Adam
Yeah. so you've got eleven like eleven solar numbers
00:15:22
Tackles and Tinnies
um But the guys I've got, like...
00:15:25
Adam
yeah
00:15:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. So I'll just quickly read them out. So I've got Sandon Smith, Jazz Tavunga, Dylan Lucas, I won't count Olakowatu. I got Katoga, I'll count Karaz, I'm pretty sure Karaz will be there.
00:15:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Sharp, Garrick, Tamale, and I'll put Teddy in, because I'm pretty sure.
00:15:47
Adam
Yeah.
00:15:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Edwards or Papi will be there.
00:15:50
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:51
Tackles and Tinnies
But um that's my opinion. But yeah, about 11. So again, three trades next week. I'll probably max trade standard for me, keep the position going.
00:15:56
Adam
Hmm.
00:16:00
Tackles and Tinnies
um But there's some guys who I probably will have to trade anyway because they peaked in cash. But again, we'll talk about that soon enough.
00:16:06
Adam
you
00:16:07
Tackles and Tinnies
um I think the biggest one this week, because the Panthers are on the buy, the Nathan Cleary situation. So potentially playing, well, best case, I'm pretty sure he can only play four out of eight games post-origin, potentially gets rested and even loses or doesn't play more games. What your thoughts on selling Nathan Cleary?
00:16:31
Adam
Yeah, i don't know if you saw. um Ivan Cleary actually came out and said he's going to rest the Origin players around 16. um So they have the buy, it's the buy around round, round 15. Origin 2 is in Perth.
00:16:45
Adam
And then Penrith play in New Zealand like two days later. And so flying, playing Origin Wednesday, flying from Perth to Sydney, then from Sydney New Zealand to play two days later, like he already said none of those guys are going to play.
00:16:59
Adam
So with Cleary, he's missing 15, he's missing 16.
00:17:03
Adam
He's missing 18. He's only going to play around 17, and that's against the Bulldogs. And obviously their defense has been pretty big this year. So clear is definitely a sell, I think.
00:17:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:17:15
Adam
It's just a matter of timing. um You can sell this week, obviously buy this week, missing next week. It's going to be a big call because if you don't sell this week, you'll sell around 15.
00:17:29
Adam
Definitely. But he plays power around 13 and tigers around 14. And so I can see it going one of two ways. I can see him scoring a couple of eighties and people that jump off, you know, get in heaped cash influx and extra gun in the buy rounds, make up a bunch of points.
00:17:44
Adam
Or I can see it going the other way where people that hold, they get one 40 versus power and 110 versus the tigers sell at an even higher price. And then they've actually made up extra points.
00:17:56
Adam
um I'm going to hold this week and I'm going to reassess. And if Carnage hits and I'm short, he's an easy guy to move to a around 12 player. And then I think I'm going to try and keep him for 13 and 14 for now.
00:18:08
Adam
um But if you've got the right duels or you've got the right guy to buy, i don't mind selling him this week. He's going to be a sell eventually. um i mean, what are you, are you holding are you trading?
00:18:22
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm holding this week and I'm probably in a similar similar boat in your mindset for next week as well. ah do like the potential opportunities of him playing um those games regardless of the origin situation.
00:18:36
Tackles and Tinnies
um And I just don't have that luxury of just bringing him back in. Like I can't be wasting trades. If I be max rating every single week, it's almost that position where I've got Jerome Hughes,
00:18:48
Tackles and Tinnies
He's a lock. I got clear. He's a lock. Why burn more trades there unless they're injured? Like I just don't have that flexibility at this stage. I definitely could reassess maybe game two potentially, but yeah, in the immediate future, I'm definitely in a similar boat to
00:19:02
Adam
Yeah.
Navigating Upcoming Rounds
00:19:05
Tackles and Tinnies
you.
00:19:05
Tackles and Tinnies
And it could be a pod like, which could be also a huge thing.
00:19:05
Adam
yeah
00:19:09
Adam
Yeah, well, for you, like the only guy I'd be trading to is Nico, um and he misses round 13. So you're not really gaining that yes you know really gaining an extra game anyway.
00:19:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Not again.
00:19:20
Adam
So for you, I'd definitely keep him for 13, 14. Round 15, Nico has the Dragons at home in the buy round. So Dragons are going to be without Val, probably without Jaden Sua.
00:19:32
Adam
Couchman's now injured. He might not be back. Sharks are at full strength. Like that might be a, like, you have to have Nico situation and that's a good reason to jump off Cleary for you. And then you could just buy him back later.
00:19:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:19:44
Adam
um But yeah, I wouldn't be moving now. I mean, Nico's got the storm this week, so that's not really a move you want to make um anyway.
00:19:52
Tackles and Tinnies
and Yeah. yeah And again, the, the team that they're playing is definitely a a team you don't be versing as well. So Melbourne storm, obviously ah very, very good. And they're going to probably go full gun ho cause i know they're gonna have a bit of a rest next week.
00:20:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Um, And obviously off that scintillating performance, 62 or 64 to 0, yeah, they're going to be red, red hot. um Some other players are in high contention.
00:20:19
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts with the Matty Nicholson situation? So he's pretty highly owned.
00:20:23
Adam
Well,
00:20:23
Tackles and Tinnies
um I know you were murmuring on some players, but I guess you can spill the beans. What are your thoughts on Matty Nicholson?
00:20:29
Adam
um well I don't own Nicholson. I missed that one, unfortunately. He's been really good. um Reports have come out that he's going to be out for up to 12 weeks, so he's definitely sell. There's no question there.
00:20:40
Adam
Yeah. there's ah And he's that's exactly the sort of trade that I think needs to be made this week because, yes, you could hold him, get another look at the options, but it's just one extra thing you have to do, and if carnage hits, going be in trouble.
00:20:54
Adam
There's heaps of second-rollers that are great buyers this week, and it's really hard to figure out which one. so Um, you've got Aaron Clark, who's just been absolutely killing it.
00:21:05
Adam
Um, nice to see the Warriors use him well. I don't know what the Titans are doing for those few years, but he's been unreal. Um, he's racking up base.
00:21:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. True.
00:21:15
Adam
plus He gets a bit of attack occasionally, you know, he has an offload. He really like runs hard, like in the 20, he's trying to score every time. He really just like tucks it under his arm and runs. Um,
00:21:26
Adam
He's getting bit expensive, but in a weird way, it's almost a good thing because he if he keeps going up in price, no one's going to be able to afford him. And those those can be the best pods sometimes.
00:21:40
Adam
And then you've got guys like Kikau.
00:21:41
Tackles and Tinnies
true
00:21:42
Adam
He scored 100 this week. Their buy schedule really strong. like They've got some great matchups. I think their three major buys are Dolphins without origin guys, Souths without origin guys, and Broncos without origin guys.
00:21:55
Adam
And then there's a power matchup in between that.
00:21:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:21:57
Adam
So like he could be unreal. um And he's pretty affordable. I think he's right around 600K. You've got Nikara who is starting to find some form.
00:22:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:22:06
Adam
The base is up. And now that Hines has taken more control of the team, like he's getting all these short balls, turning it back inside for Nikara. Like he's really looking better off the last few weeks.
00:22:17
Adam
He's only like or 540, which is steal for him. deal for him ah And then you've got Fosking, who I'm probably going to buy this week.
00:22:23
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:22:27
Adam
um He's only 500k. plays around 12. He plays around 13. He plays 18, which is looking like a bit of a tricky one. and he's a bit injury prone, but when he's played big minutes, whether it's on the edge, whether it's in the middle, he's just always scored well, even in base.
00:22:45
Adam
Um, like I would expect him to be close to a 60 average just in base. And then any attackers, you know, could push him up to 70 even short term.
00:22:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:22:55
Adam
Um, um, So there's like four or five guys that you could just look at as like, yeah, that's an easy buy, which makes it hard. But also I think buying one of them now, if you have Nicholson, like just jump on one of those guys now, fix that early.
00:23:08
Adam
And then you've got more cover next week if needed.
Trades for Injured Players
00:23:13
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah I'm a similar mindset, but since I can't boost and they I have another guy in the ah form of Greg Marju with a similar injury situation, but we'll get to Greg shortly.
00:23:26
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, Matty Zinkelson, I'm actually holding this week reluctantly because my second trade that I'll explain later, he sort of mitigates that chance to get that.
00:23:31
Adam
Thank you.
00:23:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I was looking at Kikau for a long time this week. I was also looking at Tarpenny because I'm the the cash king. um Both those guys' break-evens aren't crazy. So I can't probably afford to wait one week and it won't really change the amount I have to spend.
00:23:56
Tackles and Tinnies
um And I'm pretty stacked in the forwards. Like I've got... Dylan Lucas, Nanai, Ola Kawatu, like their guns, that's your three starters and you've your standard front rowers and Haas, May, Tino and Corey Horsburgh.
00:24:04
Adam
Mm-hmm.
00:24:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So I do have that luxury where I don't necessarily have to trade this week in my eyes and I'd rather go for that high upside play in the outside backs. um That's why Greggy Marju was my priority trade this week instead. Yeah.
00:24:25
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, there's definitely some guns out there. Nikara, as you just mentioned earlier, he's been really good. That buy schedule is very favorable and I was definitely looking at him as well. But if I had to pick anyone that the guys that you mentioned, I'm loving the kick shout.
00:24:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I think kick out is in a team that's not affected by, um the origin players leaving like burden, maybe 18th man, but probably unlikely.
00:24:49
Tackles and Tinnies
um There's no one really else. Karaz probably not going to get picked. As you said, federal bar schedule, the versing guys who in Origin teams, and they're in a winning team and a winning culture.
00:25:01
Tackles and Tinnies
So obviously Crit is not there, but it's the only guy. So I think Kick-Out probably the guy be looking at next week.
00:25:04
Adam
I mean, if anything,
00:25:07
Adam
Yeah, i mean, if anything, Preston's suspended.
00:25:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Sorry?
00:25:10
Adam
Yeah, Preston's suspended. Critter's going to be in origin. Like, that's their right side attack. You know, they might just go left even. I mean, they go left most of the time. They might go left even more. um And we saw that last week where Kikau got a try and a try assist, just sweeping, easiest ones of your life.
00:25:25
Adam
So he's definitely an intriguing option. And I don't think I'll get him this week, but he'll be one I'll look at next week for sure.
00:25:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So that's the Matty Nicholson situation. And the Zach Hosking shout as well. I love that. I'm just on Supercoach right now. And 25% the top 5% are putting in this week.
00:25:47
Tackles and Tinnies
ah putting him in this week so That's a pretty big um pretty big whiff for that. I managed to pick him up in draft, so take that.
00:25:55
Adam
Oh, nice.
00:25:56
Adam
i but ah I put a claim in too.
00:25:56
Tackles and Tinnies
But, um yeah, I did notice that.
00:26:01
Tackles and Tinnies
um But, yep, well done to me. I'll take that little penny where I can. um But, yeah, Greg Imaju, another highly owned player. Did you own Greg, Adam?
00:26:09
Adam
Yeah, I've got Greg. Yeah, started with him. He's been good.
00:26:12
Tackles and Tinnies
So, yeah, more exactly right. um What's your play with Greg? He's at probably about four weeks. Are you going hold or sell?
00:26:21
Adam
No, definitely selling. um so at the moment, he's the guy moving on to to Hosking. we Got that Lucas Duel into RF, which is handy. um Yeah, like he he's a season keeper, but four weeks is just a little bit too long at this time of year.
00:26:37
Adam
If it was like round 16 and he was only going to miss like a bye that he was going to miss anyway, you'd probably just hang on to him. But the Knights haven't been very good to begin with, and their draw the next – like month was the appeal for lot of these nights players. And he's going to miss that good part of the draw.
00:26:52
Adam
He might come back and be a bit limited. Like we don't even really know what the injury was. They haven't actually, don't think they've said whether it was like an MCL or like a bone bruise or whatever. um So, yeah, definitely selling.
00:27:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Mm-hmm.
00:27:05
Adam
It's just too – yeah, it's just kind of what I was talking about earlier. Like, you really need to insulate yourself against that sort of carnage, and I don't want to be going into next week with a guy sitting there injured already. So, for me, he's an easy sell.
00:27:17
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:27:18
Adam
um And he's expensive. Centering's got so many good players. Like, I just don't – and we've got a lot of trades this year. know you've been burning them, but – We've made so much money. All these cheapies are killing it.
00:27:30
Adam
Most people have gun teams already. I don't think we're going to get to the end of the year and be stressed about trades.
00:27:34
Tackles and Tinnies
um
00:27:35
Adam
I think there's a good chance we'll have three or four spare at the end of the year just to do, like, dumb shit. Maybe not you. But...
00:27:42
Tackles and Tinnies
You're a comedian, mate.
00:27:43
Adam
um
00:27:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Absolutely comedian.
00:27:44
Adam
okay Like the last, I don't know, so I often stress about trades in the last few years. Like last year, I know i was sitting like maybe top 200 trying to make a big swing and I brought in Luai, he averaged like 30, brought in Nico after his injury, averaged like 40, but I didn't need those trades. I was just using them to like try take a big swing.
00:28:03
Adam
um So I don't see much point holding Greg. You can buy him back later. Worst case scenario.
00:28:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Agreed. Very similar situation. Obviously not as long, but Tua Piloto, same sort of thing. Gunn, probably season keeper when healthy. Yeah, I think center wing, you sort of got to be a bit more aggressive and sort of get those guys in and out because some guys could pop off like Karaz like last week, getting 140 or wherever it was.
00:28:24
Adam
and thank
00:28:31
Tackles and Tinnies
um Any other guys that are tickling your fancy this week for a buy or a must sell, Adam?
00:28:40
Adam
Must sell, not really. um Yeah, not really any must-sells I can think of other than injured guys. I think this is – and in terms of buyers, I mean, like I said, I would just be targeting around 12
Trading Strategies for Coverage
00:28:56
Adam
guys at this stage. Like, I'd be trying to make sure you're getting 12, 13 players now.
00:29:02
Adam
um just to be safe, ah because those buy rounds, like if you're short, just going to get murdered. um You really need 13 minimum and ideally even 14, 15. um The interesting one this week, which a lot of people are going to be buying, and I know you're thinking about buying, is the Dragon's halfback.
00:29:19
Adam
um He is base price, negative break even.
00:29:24
Tackles and Tinnies
in to Yeah,
00:29:25
Adam
Yeah, yeah, King Tonga. That's a really interesting one. You're you're buying him, right?
00:29:33
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah it just does so much for me. And I'll explain that after you finished.
00:29:38
Adam
I think I'm going to avoid him for now, personally. i'm just going to save my second trade. I'm just going to move on Greg and and sit with that. just because it's all team dependent, but I've got Munster and JC and JC just scored 90.
00:29:54
Adam
Munster went 140. um And the score for LKT on the weekend made it a lot more feasible, I think, to skip him. If he put up another 80, like he probably forced to buy him no matter what.
00:30:07
Adam
But yes, he has that negative 40 break even, but he scored like 33 with tri-assist. And so if he scores like another 30 this week, he'll make 50K and his break-even will be like 20 next week.
00:30:22
Adam
And that might dry up a little bit.
00:30:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:30:25
Adam
um It really depends. Like he's probably not going to be an 80 average guy. He's probably not going to be 20 average guy either. um I know. I'm not a big fan of buying him this week unless it really opens up some big moves elsewhere.
00:30:39
Adam
um Just because I think even if he scores –
00:30:41
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:30:43
Adam
If he scores 40 this week, right, he'll make like 70K. You could still buy him if you want to ah in round 13 for 260 instead of 198, and that's not the end of the world. um It's better than being short like in round 12, in my opinion, if that's sort of the risk running.
00:30:59
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Fair. Yeah.
00:31:03
Adam
But, I mean, it's hard to turn down a bottom-down chip.
00:31:04
Tackles and Tinnies
So I do have a bit of Oh, mate. Again, the break-even's insane. Like, negative 51 break-even's pretty bloody good.
00:31:12
Adam
Oh, my gosh.
00:31:13
Tackles and Tinnies
And that actually freed up close to $500,000 for me, which just did so much for my team.
00:31:18
Adam
Mm-hmm.
00:31:21
Tackles and Tinnies
So um might just go through my trades quick.
00:31:22
Adam
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:31:23
Tackles and Tinnies
So I did Greg Marju for King Tonga via Jewel of Adam Dewey.
00:31:28
Adam
um
00:31:31
Tackles and Tinnies
So Dewey is out and Greg Marju out, which then allowed me to get, yeah, let me get Fletcher Sharp and King Tonga. So i got a gun in Fletcher Sharp. He's also got a low break even of eight.
00:31:47
Tackles and Tinnies
And then King Tonga has got a low break even of negative 51.
00:31:50
Adam
Yeah.
00:31:50
Tackles and Tinnies
So cash galore, pretty much had to get Fletcher Sharp because if I don't get him this week, I'm not going get him at all.
00:31:56
Adam
Yep.
00:31:57
Tackles and Tinnies
But then after the Nathan Cleary chat we just did, King Tonga will get the duel by round 12 because he's actually a 5'8 only on Supercoach currently.
00:32:03
Adam
and that
00:32:06
Tackles and Tinnies
I actually might go the two rounds post-Origin with Cleary, get those um good matchups, and then look to sell them and King Tonga gets flexed up and then get JC in.
00:32:17
Adam
yeah yeah Oh, that plan that plan makes a that plan makes a lot of sense.
00:32:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Master plan.
00:32:22
Adam
um What I would probably say, so how much money do you have before trades, like in the bank?
00:32:30
Adam
Like just before doing anything?
00:32:34
Adam
Yeah. Like, I yeah like
00:32:37
Tackles and Tinnies
and now this
00:32:37
Adam
i don't
00:32:38
Tackles and Tinnies
gives me hundred eighty four thousand in the bank for next week
00:32:42
Adam
Yeah, I think I'm a little bit nervous for you having 11 going into next week for round 12, because like you need 13 absolute minimum. You probably want 14, because there's a few guys in there, like I've got similar guys, like Sandon, for example. like They could score 25 on the by-round, and then you want that to drop out, ideally. And you've got Kaltoga as well. He's been good. Hopefully, like Jags will try for you. But I think...
00:33:09
Adam
if you're going into next week with 11 and only three trades, like one injury or surprise origin selection HIA and you're on 13, and if you have two, you literally can't get to 13 players.
00:33:21
Adam
So I think like the strategy you're running of like maxing the cash is a good one, but I think there's a time where like you need to actually use that cash to your advantage. And I would say that's this week. Like I don't think – I don't think you missing the first price rise on LKT is that big a problem.
00:33:38
Adam
I think you could sacrifice that. Like you could buy him for 260K later and just like insulate yourself against that carnage. Like if you do like I'm assuming you could do Nicholson to a 2RF like Nikara, Kikau, whoever, and still do Greg to Sharp, right?
00:33:57
Adam
Yeah, like I'd definitely be doing that. You're going to miss the price rise from King Tonga, but you'll get better points this week because you'll have an extra gone You'll have protection against Carnage the week after. um and then you could do, and Dewey's got like, what, South this week or something, so he actually might do her okay anyway.
00:34:15
Adam
Like Tigers are going to bounce back shortly.
00:34:17
Tackles and Tinnies
been the burden of my life, mate. He's been absolute burden of my life.
00:34:19
Adam
He's pretty shocking on the weekend. I mean, you don't play the Storm at
00:34:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Every time I play him, he just does shit. But lucky that I didn't play him this week and i played Brimo. So um that worked out well.
00:34:28
Adam
Who's your, like, with your current with your current trades, right, who's your last reserve? Like, who's the weakest guy on your team?
00:34:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Probably Jaz Tavanga, but he's pretty solid as well.
00:34:41
Adam
Yeah. so like be yeah So, like, if you do Hosking to kick out instead of doing, oh sorry, Nicholson to kick out instead of doing Dewey to Tonga, then you're playing kick out instead of Tvanga.
00:34:57
Adam
So you're potentially getting an extra, let's say, 30 points for argument's sake this week. And then you're potentially, like, if you're you could be short round 12. You could be getting an extra 80 points that week if you'd be short otherwise.
00:35:11
Adam
And, like, the 60K LKT is going to make is is handy, but, like, I'd take the 80 points every day of the week.
00:35:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So, i like, as you were just speaking, i' just did a reverse trade.
00:35:21
Adam
Is that...
00:35:24
Tackles and Tinnies
So I can do Matty Nicholson, Greg Margeau out, kick our Fletcher Sharpie, and and that give me 13K remaining in the bank.
00:35:25
Adam
I mean...
00:35:29
Adam
yeah
00:35:31
Tackles and Tinnies
So, arguably, my weakest play is doing now.
00:35:31
Adam
Yeah. Like, I'd do that. I mean, if... if Because you get another look...
00:35:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:35:36
Adam
Yeah, I mean, if you do... Because that's the thing, you get another look at LK2T as well, man. Like he like I said, he got 30-odd with a tri-assist. Like, if he scores 20 this week and doesn't get a tri-assist, you don't even need him.
00:35:47
Adam
Like, his break-even will be, like, 35. He'll Yeah. you can just avoid him and go another direction. oh There'll be other cheapies that pop up. There'll be other chances to make cash.
00:35:59
Adam
um And, you know, maybe like Teddy gets picked for origin and then you go, all right, I've got nine hundred k Teddy. I'll just sell him down to whoever. And then you've got 300K, you know, sitting there. um I'd 100% be doing that if I was you.
00:36:12
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:36:12
Adam
Because going into next week with only 11 and only three trades, like I'd be very nervous about that.
00:36:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:36:18
Adam
I've got a boost up my sleeve at least. So worst case scenario, like let's say Karaz gets picked for Origin, Teddy gets picked for Origin, Ponga gets picked for Origin.
00:36:20
Tackles and Tinnies
That's true.
00:36:26
Adam
i have two blokes get HIAs. Like I can use four trades if I have to and get close to either get 13 or maybe be 12. But if that much carnage has happened, everyone else will be struggling too. um Yeah, for you, like I think it's time to hit the points button. Like 5K, you're sitting pretty well with your team value at 5K.
00:36:45
Adam
um It's just this is like if you want to – If you want to climb the rankings, this is the time to do it. Like you don't get a better chance than the buys. So I'd be going like hard at points for the next like eight weeks.
00:36:55
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah. Yeah. That's fair call. Cause yeah, I kinda, that's why you're on the podcast, Adam. You you talk sense to me, mate.
00:37:03
Adam
sit
00:37:05
Tackles and Tinnies
The finally, the good advice is coming in.
00:37:05
Adam
And then I, and then I get roasted. Then I get roasted when kick out is the one that gets the cat kick out.
00:37:07
Tackles and Tinnies
I,
00:37:10
Adam
I was going to get a cat one five minutes in. I'm going to be the bad guy. Yeah.
00:37:15
Tackles and Tinnies
somehow gets eligibility play for New South Wales. Like, it'll happen.
00:37:19
Adam
and
00:37:19
Tackles and Tinnies
um
00:37:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, um it makes more sense because then, like, next week I can sort of look at, obviously, probably trading Ponga, probably trading Derby, probably can trade Dewey. I can do my three trades there and that gets me to probably 15 players.
00:37:31
Adam
um
00:37:34
Adam
Yeah. I mean, there might be like, there might be like a good cheapie that's going to cover the buy rounds.
00:37:34
Tackles and Tinnies
That makes me, that does make me feel better.
00:37:41
Adam
Like sometimes these origin guys, but When they go off to Origin and Chibi comes in in their place and you say, I can just buy this guy, they'll play three rounds and the buys and they'll nuff out. And you could just go down because I don't think you have many nuffs, right?
00:37:55
Tackles and Tinnies
No, I don't have any.
00:37:56
Adam
Yeah, so you could, like, let's say some random forward pops in for, like, the Bulldogs or something, um or probably not the Bulldogs because they don't have any origin forwards, but, you know, one of these teams, like, um that's going to play more buy rounds.
00:38:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos or something.
00:38:09
Adam
Yeah, or even Manly. Like, let's say Jake Turbo gets picked for origin um and Manly puts some forward on the bench. You could just be like, yeah i'm going to pick this guy up, get three buy rounds out of them. They'll nuff out later, and that's your freed up cash, few extra points. Like, I don't think...
00:38:26
Adam
I don't think LKT is essential. He makes sense to move on from Dewey for sure. And if Nicholson and Mars, you didn't get injured and you had 13 for the buy round, like that would be an easy move, but those injuries I think kind of forces your hand a little bit like losing two guns a week out from round 12 is pretty rough. So kind of got to fix that.
00:38:46
Tackles and Tinnies
It does make sense. And again, kick out...
Player Purchases and Team Performance
00:38:50
Tackles and Tinnies
probably going to break even. like He's at 54, so he might make a little bit of cash. The Fletcher Sharp trade, that's a pretty much a must. If I don't do it this week, I'm not going to do it at all.
00:38:59
Adam
ah Better late than never.
00:38:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep, Adam, you've spoken some sense to me, mate. Yep, finally some good advice.
00:39:02
Adam
Kick out of a good pod too, man. We'll see.
00:39:06
Tackles and Tinnies
He's good thought.
00:39:06
Adam
time we Time will tell. Nah, he's a good pod, man. like keep doing
00:39:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Time will tell.
00:39:10
Adam
He could easily just like bang out a 120, one of the buy rounds, and like there's your green arrow. you know i mean, he could go on a run of 90 average for four weeks.
00:39:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:39:18
Adam
hes He could score 30 one week. We saw that against the Titans, but he's got the role. like He's an attacking a weapon. He's a good buy.
00:39:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. And again, as you said, one price rise, not the end of the world.
00:39:31
Adam
oh
00:39:32
Tackles and Tinnies
I can obviously still downgrade Dewey to get them. So no, that's good shout. Very good shout. Um, I think that's pretty much mainly the biggest players to talk about.
00:39:45
Adam
ah
00:39:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously, you've got guys like Herbie Farmworth. Obviously, you can afford him. You go get him. What's your thoughts on Corey Allen, though, from the Dragons? Obviously, you've got the Dragons, got the bye in round 12. um But he looks like he's got that starting winging spot for at least a short-term why Tua Pilato's out.
00:40:00
Tackles and Tinnies
What's your thoughts on him?
00:40:00
Adam
to um It's just too close to round 12 to be buying non-round 12 guys, I think. If it was basement price, maybe. But, like, yeah, I don't know. I'm just not really that interested. Like, if they don't play round 12, Tupolodi could be back round 13 or 14. Yeah.
00:40:20
Adam
um He's not that good. so I'm not really, like, I wouldn't be using a trade-on.
00:40:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:40:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So I'm just having a quick look at the ah top 1% and what they're doing. So apparently Connor Tracy, 4% of the top 1% have traded him in. What's your thoughts on Connor Tracy? Yeah.
00:40:40
Adam
Yeah, here's what I've been considering too. Um, I like him a lot. He is obviously all the reasons we spoke about the Bulldogs, goodbye coverage, winning team.
00:40:52
Adam
The one concern I have for him is that he's predominantly the right side sweeper for the Bulldogs. So if you watch their games, when they go left, it's Burton and Kikau.
00:41:04
Adam
doing everything, Kikau often sweeps. You've got Sherry running that hard line. Tracy's nowhere to be seen on the left. um On the right side, he runs that sweep behind Preston a lot of the time. um And then he has gotten some tri-assist just from giving the ball to Crichton, who does everything himself.
00:41:21
Adam
And those are free points, you know, with the way Supercoach scores it.
00:41:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Mm-hmm.
00:41:24
Adam
He just has to run behind the decoy, easy pass to Crichton, and they score and he gets 20 points. um And so one concern I have is, In those buy rounds, Preston's suspended, Critter's going to be at Origin, they might just go left to 85%, 90% of the time.
00:41:43
Adam
And he might not be very involved. He's had some 30s this year in games they've done okay. um His base is pretty good. I'm kind of going back and forth in it because on one hand, I love the fact that he's already expensive and he's got a negative break even.
00:41:59
Adam
If you jump on and he does go, you know, 80, 100, 80, 100 every week, then one's going to be to afford him. You're just going to keep rising the rankings every single week and riding him to the top. They've got an awesome draw.
00:42:10
Adam
But on the other hand, my head kind of says the role might not be as good over Origin for him. So it's a tough call. it's It's not now or never, but within really low break even, this week is the week to buy. And at one stage, I was buying him instead of Hosking.
00:42:30
Adam
I've kind of gone back to Hosking now just as a bit of a safer pick. um But I really like Tracy. Yeah. as an option. He's definitely like, if I was buying a center wing this week, it would be him hundred percent.
00:42:37
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:42:41
Adam
Um, yeah, like I said I like players that are expensive already because it keeps people off and you can just get these awesome pods that really like get you moving up.
Analysis of Player Forms
00:42:52
Tackles and Tinnies
true well then i'll bid you this question then fletcher sharp or corner tracy and we know that Kalen Ponga, regardless of his form this year, he's still the guy that all teams will ah but put their game plan around.
00:43:05
Adam
Mm-hmm.
00:43:06
Tackles and Tinnies
So worst case scenario, he's a decoy. Would you pick Sharp or would you pick Connor Tracy if you had to choose a suite? Asking for a friend.
00:43:17
Adam
Uh, sharp for me. I just think the, but the, the draw is still too good. Like, you know, you should have jumped on with us two, two weeks ago. Um, but he's got power. He's got Penrith in the buy round. He's got the dragons. Then he's got manly.
00:43:33
Adam
He plays around 15 as well against the roosters who miss a few origin guys. So I would still be getting sharp. Um,
00:43:41
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:43:42
Adam
And also the Bulldogs have the buy in round 13. So not that that's a really hard round to cover, but if you buy Tracy now, you only get two weeks and then he's got to buy. um so that's something to factor in as well.
00:43:54
Adam
ah So yeah, I'd say still Sharp, definitely.
00:43:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:43:56
Adam
um For anyone that doesn't own Sharp, have a look at Tracy.
00:43:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:43:59
Adam
But yeah, if you don't own Sharp, I think it's just time to jump on.
00:44:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Fair try. Okay. Good advice as per usual. um
00:44:09
Adam
but We'll see.
00:44:11
Tackles and Tinnies
So Adam, captain sees this week. Bit of a tricky one, I reckon, because some of the boys have been popping off, haven't got the best matchups in my eyes.
00:44:16
Adam
um
00:44:21
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts on captaincy this week?
00:44:24
Adam
Well, I think that anyone that's lucky enough to own Scott Drinkwater, firstly, hate you And secondly, he's the easy captain.
00:44:34
Adam
um You can vice-captain him if you want, just for the safety. With the way Ludwig works this year, it's pretty safe to VC. But you've got to have something on him. It's just a no-brainer. He's in too good a form. The role's good.
00:44:47
Adam
We'll see how this per-duty thing affects him. um Realistically, it probably won't. He's just really good. So, yeah, you've got to have something on drinky if you own.
00:44:59
Adam
For us that don't own drinky, it's definitely tough. Like, I know what you mean. Pappy's got a tough matchup. Teddy's got a tough matchup. Cleary's not playing. Nico's got a tough matchup. So I'm thinking at the moment having the C on Terrell May.
00:45:13
Adam
i'm Just copying your strategy, basically. Just take the safe points.
00:45:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Back to pack.
00:45:17
Adam
Yeah. it Yeah, you know you'd have to think the Tigers are going to be up for this one. like Last week was embarrassing, and that they've been pretty good this year. I don't think they've been that bad.
00:45:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:45:27
Adam
um He's playing for an origin jumper. Fanua Paule's out like seven weeks now, so they're going to bring in a different forward, and Terrell's probably going to play 70-plus minutes again.
00:45:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:45:39
Adam
Souths aren't the best pack, so he could get some tackle bus, some offloads. So I think he's my safe captain. And then VC, I'm not really sure.
00:45:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:45:48
Adam
I'm probably one of the fullbacks, like Teddy or Ponga. I had a sneaky look at ah Garrick as just like a real dart. Like you really want 110 plus to loop.
00:46:00
Adam
And so might just chuck it on whoever. um And then, yeah, hope they go big. But... What are you thinking? are you looking
00:46:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate, I was it just saying, I think you covered it pretty well. I've got Ponga, and I'm thinking since he's the first game of the round, it's a pretty easy choice to chuck the VC on.
00:46:22
Adam
a
00:46:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Surely. He's due. He's so bloody due to, like, pop off.
00:46:27
Adam
ah
00:46:27
Tackles and Tinnies
I could have got drinky, guys. I could have got drinky, but I went Ponga. Stingy Ryan wanted the in the bank.
00:46:32
Adam
Talk about us head a headache. Oh, seriously, what a headache.
00:46:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Got me Dylan Lucas, to be fair. Yeah.
00:46:39
Adam
I mean, with Ponga, right, like I've been looking Ponga too.
00:46:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Nonetheless, yeah. but
00:46:42
Adam
I mean, the Eels at home, like he's a goal-kicking fullback. He doesn't need that much to go right for him, I guess, like a few sweeps and whatever. But like, what do you think, what I've been struggling with for him is,
00:46:55
Adam
What are the odds he actually gets a loopable score? Like, that South's game, they carved them up, and he got 98. I mean, don't get me started on the line break. They took off him for no reason.
00:47:07
Adam
But even if you add that back on, he scored 108 in a game they absolutely demolished South. That's not even loopable enough. He scored 30 versus the Titans. Like...
00:47:19
Adam
If he gets 90, like I'd be super happy, but do you think he has a 120 in him at the moment with his current form?
00:47:28
Tackles and Tinnies
i think I think he does. I think he's just so overdue and I think he wants to sort of prove a point going to origin.
00:47:33
Adam
Let's go.
00:47:36
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm manifesting so bad here, but I think he does. like and And as you say, I think it's almost better if it's a high-scoring affair, but it's a close game because, as you said multiple times, you said to me in person, he just pumps a team and then he's like, oh, yeah.
00:47:48
Adam
Hmm.
00:47:55
Tackles and Tinnies
pull the handbrake, let's just go cruise control for the rest of the game. Let's just save some juice. I think it'll be good if it's a high-scoring affair, but it's just even.
00:48:01
Adam
Thank you.
00:48:06
Adam
Oh, he's frustrating, man.
00:48:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe have to put more juice in.
00:48:07
Adam
Like, even end of last year when I owned him, like, he'd be on 100 after 55 minutes, and I'm like, here we go, this is the big one.
00:48:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:48:16
Adam
And then he just, like, they're up by 20, and he just checks out. like Like you said, cruise control. He just won't touch the ball. He's like, game's over, I'll just really rest for next week, which isn't the worst strategy in real life. It's kind of like in the NBA where they just pull the starters when they're up 30 in the fourth quarter, you know.
00:48:32
Adam
They don't really do that in the footy, obviously, but,
00:48:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes.
00:48:36
Adam
It's frustrating when you've got Ponga on a, you know, a hundred after 50 minutes then he's finished on 107.
Critique of Player Performances
00:48:43
Adam
and then you see turbo you see drinky like these guys like they'll be on 120 with 10 minutes to go the game's over and they're like they're trying to junk it up like if they're taking everything up they're throwing off loads they're like trying to score every single set like they just like so greedy like they want all the tries all the try assists like those are the guys you want to own and pong are like that's why i worry it's like even if everything goes right and they're carving up the eels
00:49:02
Tackles and Tinnies
love it man
00:49:09
Adam
Like, he's he's just going to stop playing after 60 minutes and rest. um And then if it's a close game, like that Titans game last week, it was a worst-case scenario because they went up big early He wasn't involved in any of the tries. And I was really worried at halftime because I was like either they're gonna run away with it and he'll just stop playing, or it'll get close and they'll just put the cue in the rack and try and defend their way to a win, which is pretty much what happened. Like, they just weren't trying to do anything, wouldn't run sweeps. They'd just go five hit-ups and a kick, trying to, like, hold on to this lead.
00:49:41
Adam
And, like, Pong has scored, what, like, three points in the second half because the Knights just refused to actually play any footy.
00:49:47
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:49:48
Adam
um I mean, on paper, like, he's the easiest VC of your life. And maybe I'm overthinking it, but I don't know. I really struggle to see him doing that big score. I kind of feel like if he does, then I'll just be happy that he's done it.
00:50:02
Adam
And if he scores 50 again, I'm going to be so mad if I burn the VC on him again. yeah. yeah What are you thinking for captain then if you don't loop?
00:50:08
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:50:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, well, I think, well, I'm not against the stack-to-pack technique.
00:50:14
Adam
If you don't loop.
00:50:16
Tackles and Tinnies
I was looking at Payne Haas as well as a potential option as a captaincy. So i was looking at either Ponga or Pappy as a VC and then go either Terrell May or Payne Haas.
00:50:28
Tackles and Tinnies
I think Payne Haas is probably going to run right against St George.
00:50:32
Adam
i mean Yeah, that's a good call.
00:50:33
Tackles and Tinnies
I think that's pretty obvious there. And again, he knows he's got a bit of a rest as well coming up.
00:50:37
Adam
i mean
00:50:40
Adam
That's a good call because the Broncos, they've lost two in a row. like They actually need a win desperately. And the Dragons have lost Couchman. Their packs, like let's be honest, is not very good to begin with. So, yeah, that's interesting. Actually, maybe Haas is a better option than Terrell.
00:50:56
Adam
Maybe I'll switch.
00:50:57
Tackles and Tinnies
because obviously probably is going to get the minutes like probably 70 to maybe a full game potentially because i saw royce hunt starting at front row next to him he's 40 minutes max um big um but yeah i think the go high risk as you said to me and in the past that sort of papenhausen sort of vibe or drink water vibe
00:51:00
Adam
Yeah.
00:51:06
Adam
Big boy.
00:51:09
Adam
bit And
00:51:21
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, I think the pain-harse, I think he's going to explode. and especially know He knows he's got a bit of a rest coming up, a weaker sort of opposition in terms of the front row.
00:51:28
Adam
a um
00:51:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Origin around the corner is probably going to want a bit of a statement game. Broncos fucking shut the bed last week. um
00:51:39
Adam
The home game too, isn't it?
00:51:39
Tackles and Tinnies
I think you Sunday at Suncorp, 2pm.
00:51:41
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep, 2pm at Suncorp. Potentially a driest track. I think it's going to be all up pain-harse.
00:51:47
Adam
and really
00:51:49
Adam
Yeah, yeah you're you're saying the right things. You're saying all the right things. it sounds like It sounds like a good idea. Maybe I'll switch over. on I like it.
00:52:00
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah I think both are pretty good options nonetheless Adam if you have to leave with the audience one thing to do this week what advice would you give
00:52:12
Adam
um Yeah, I mean, it's just the same advice I gave you, man.
Preparation for Upcoming Challenges
00:52:16
Adam
Like, you just have to have your round 12 numbers ready. Like, you can't risk... A lot of us have used all our boosts or burned a bunch of trades.
00:52:23
Adam
You can't risk going into next week saying, yeah, it's fine, i'll just make three trades to get to 13.
00:52:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:52:28
Adam
Like, if you're an overall player, that is. If you have 11 players and everyone everyone else has 13, like you're 100 behind par before the round even kicks off. And ideally you want 14 so that if someone has a HIA, they drop out. Or if someone scores a 10, 20, they drop out.
00:52:44
Adam
So I think this week is very important for trades, but just really simple, like get rid of injured guys, Maybe get rid of Origin guys if you want to but just get in some like no chance of Origin round 12 guys, like your Hoskins, your Nikara, um, Fletcher Sharp, Connor Tracy. and Like these guys are all good buyers.
00:53:04
Adam
ah wouldn't be doing LKT unless you really, really need the money. um And then I wouldn't be training anyone that might not make Origin, like your Ola Kuwatus or even Horse. Like, if you've Horse, you might as well just give him another week because he could easily miss out.
00:53:20
Adam
um You know, Terrell's not a lock lock until he's named.
00:53:20
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:53:23
Adam
um Teddy, Ponga, like even Ponga might not make it. Who knows? So, yeah, i just it's just that's the focus this week. If you don't need to do anything, just hold trades. It's a good week to save some. But, yeah, it's just it's all round 12 this week.
00:53:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Good advice.
Session Wrap-up and Audience Engagement
00:53:42
Tackles and Tinnies
um Well, guys, I'm pretty sure that's everything we've covered. Captaincy, sells, buys. But again, as I say every week, we want to hear from you guys. We want to hear trades.
00:53:52
Tackles and Tinnies
We want to hear if Adam's made some crap calls. I think he's actually done pretty good today. So maybe ah give Adam some likes in the comments.
00:53:55
Adam
but
00:53:58
Tackles and Tinnies
um
00:53:58
Adam
Fingers crossed.
00:53:59
Tackles and Tinnies
I think he's done some very good advice, especially um that King Tonga advice. I've just spoken myself into captaining Payne Haas and I think Bronco is going to run right. So I think King Tong is probably in for a low scoring game this week.
00:54:13
Tackles and Tinnies
So, yep. Thank you, Adam. Well done again. ah But yeah, audience, love to hear from you guys.
00:54:15
Adam
and start
00:54:19
Tackles and Tinnies
You're welcome. ah Yeah, audience, we want to hear from you guys. We're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, we're on YouTube Shorts, you name it, we're on it. But again, to help us get recognized to the algorithm, we need you to like and subscribe. And if you can share, that also extremely helps.
00:54:34
Tackles and Tinnies
But huge shout out to the GOAT, Adam. ah forty third overall, track
00:54:41
Adam
Yeah, something like that. ah double check, but yeah, it's about that.
00:54:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, so Adam's the GOAT. We love him. Then, if you've got any questions to Adam, him I'll sort of flick it onto him and I'll ah get back to you guys. But appreciate you guys. Gary and I will be on for the normal programming tomorrow night, Thursday night.
00:55:00
Tackles and Tinnies
um Talk to you guys soon. Thanks.