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Speaker: Welcome back to the Fresh Cakes podcast.
Speaker: I'm fresh.
Speaker: This is Pancakes.
Speaker: Hello.
Speaker: All right, Pancakes.
Speaker: What do we have on tap for today?
Speaker: On tap.
Speaker: What do we have on tap today?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: The Bruins making some moves, trade moves.
Speaker: The NHL draft is this week.
Speaker: And NFL roughs fresh.
Speaker: They are part-time employees.
Speaker: So I don't know what that's about.
Speaker: And then like Damian Lillard's maybe going to Miami.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: some crazy things today crazy things i will update everybody though don't worry everyone that was worried about my name my scab is healing from where i tripped and fell uh at the braves game last week so that that's good we'll start on some good news yeah it's well it's been a week so you'd hope it's it's not the healing process at this point yeah it's not infected or the wounds not festering yeah yeah so you still have a leg and stuff that's dope um
Speaker: So Bruins, man, traded Taylor Hall, dude, and the rights to Nick Fellino to the Blackhawks.
Speaker: That's pretty crazy.
Speaker: Taylor Hall's former number one overall pick.
Speaker: Really good player.
Speaker: Had a little bit of an offseason.
Speaker: But that's big news, man.
Speaker: I think the Bruins are saving like $6 million in cap space.
Speaker: Didn't see that coming.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And who would you hopefully think that that cap space is for, Fresh?
Speaker: It's got to be, hopefully it's Bertuzzi, man.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: I mean, and I take at this point in their careers,
Speaker: I'd take Bertuzzi over Hall.
Speaker: Bertuzzi was a dog in the playoffs, you know?
Speaker: Yeah, he was, like, stealing people's sticks and trying to break them.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is on one of our other episodes.
Speaker: And, yeah, totally, if we can get him back.
Speaker: I love that because I just saw a thing that the Bruins, unless they hear otherwise, are expecting Bergeron and Krejci to retire.
Speaker: So that's too, like – Oh, wow.
Speaker: I didn't know both of them were going to retire.
Speaker: I figured Bergeron would, but –
Speaker: They're both up getting up there, you know.
Speaker: So that's our two top line like centers.
Speaker: I believe Krejci was starting on center on the second line.
Speaker: And so and you lose Hall.
Speaker: So like we better get Bertuzzi, you know.
Speaker: I would hope so.
Speaker: I don't know who else.
Speaker: And like, I mean, crazy things happen in the offseason, but I don't know why they would necessarily be trying to clear a cap space like that if it weren't trying to resign like Bertuzzi, who I think belongs in Boston, just his attitude and everything.
Speaker: Yeah, I think he's such a Bruins-type player, or a Boston-type player, I'll say.
Speaker: You know, like Marcus Smart, Pergoya, you know, Bertuzzi seems like he would fit that mold.
Speaker: So we'll see what happens there, man.
Speaker: But, yeah, Hall was a good player, man.
Speaker: You know, he's just a little up and down this past year.
Speaker: So I think they thought they could do without him.
Speaker: But Chicago is getting – I mean, on Chicago, he's like –
Speaker: All-star.
Speaker: Their most notable offensive player.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know?
Speaker: So, you know, good move for them probably.
Speaker: The other thing, and we could transition here if you want, like the NHL draft being tomorrow, he's the number one overall pick.
Speaker: They have the number one overall pick.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So he can tell that dude, but they're hard.
Speaker: But they're hard.
Speaker: He can tell that dude what it's like, what to expect.
Speaker: I've been having that spotlight of a number one overall talent.
Speaker: That does make sense.
Speaker: Number one overall pick going to a team that has the first number one overall pick.
Speaker: Should we just say Bedard?
Speaker: Instead of number one overall pick, should we just say Bedard?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Everybody... Well, the dude's kind of insane, right?
Speaker: Conor Bedard is like...
Speaker: Like people said, he's like the next Sidney Crosby.
Speaker: The kid's just insane.
Speaker: And his forearms are just insanely strong because one of the stories I heard about him and how his forearms got so strong and why he's so just like his shot is immaculate is he broke.
Speaker: He's right handed and he broke his right wrist.
Speaker: And he just while his right wrist is broken, he just trained his left wrist.
Speaker: That's all he did.
Speaker: So he just has like the forearms of like a gorilla dude.
Speaker: Like he is kind of like crazy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He is a beast.
Speaker: And he's been projected to go number one overall.
Speaker: But I mean, crazier things have happened.
Speaker: He's supposed to be generational talent, like generational player, you know, like, so we'll see.
Speaker: I don't, I don't think, I don't see the Blackhawks.
Speaker: passing on him.
Speaker: I mean, who do you have a guy?
Speaker: Who's the guy?
Speaker: The only other guy that they would take that's projected to go second is Adam Fentilli.
Speaker: And he was the center at Michigan, which is, I mean, like why I like him, but I think Connor Bedard, Connor Bedard.
Speaker: Cause like, like you said, he's supposed to be a generational talent.
Speaker: And I mean, when you have, when you get compared to Sidney Crosby, I mean, I'm not even a Penguins fan.
Speaker: I'll say that outright.
Speaker: You know, like I can't stand when like my team would play against Sidney Crosby.
Speaker: But Sid the Kid, I mean, he's amazing.
Speaker: He's insane.
Speaker: He's insane.
Speaker: So, yeah, I think you can't – if you're like the GM of the Blackhawks and you pass on Conor Bedard, who everyone's like, this guy's a – this is LeBron James.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, this is Tom Brady.
Speaker: Like, we can all see it.
Speaker: And you, like, go on a hunch for the other kid, and Bedard becomes –
Speaker: you know, insane.
Speaker: I mean, you can't, you can't be that guy.
Speaker: I just, just out of not wanting to be that guy, I'm going Bedard.
Speaker: They might burn down the United center in Chicago if they don't pick Bedard.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I like that pick with Hall.
Speaker: I like that trade with Hall.
Speaker: Hey dude, be a number one overall pick.
Speaker: Not that easy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: All these eyes are on now.
Speaker: These eyes have been on him obviously because he's insane, but,
Speaker: you know, here's what it's like.
Speaker: Here's what you're going to expect.
Speaker: Here's what the media might ask you about, you know?
Speaker: So I kind of like that from a locker room perspective for the Blackhawks.
Speaker: So good trade.
Speaker: And we, you know, we get a couple of minor league defensemen out of it.
Speaker: One kid, one of them's from Michigan.
Speaker: I forget where the other like grew up there, not the school, I don't think, but,
Speaker: They're both defensemen.
Speaker: We might lose a defenseman or two in free agency as well.
Speaker: So maybe in another move to free up more cap to get Bertuzzi, you know, because I want a guy out there, no tape, breaking the opponent's sticks, stealing the opponent's sticks.
Speaker: Yeah, just like a gritty guy.
Speaker: Yeah, blue collar.
Speaker: Just I got to have him.
Speaker: He's unrestricted free agent, I believe.
Speaker: But hopefully he likes his time in Boston.
Speaker: And wants to stay.
Speaker: I hope so, dude.
Speaker: Because, like, the fact that Boston's probably getting ready to sign, like, to me, like, if he wasn't at Boston, I would want him at Carolina.
Speaker: I would rather him be at Carolina than Boston, actually.
Speaker: Yeah, Carolina's another team.
Speaker: I could see him fitting in.
Speaker: Like, Carolina, that's why you guys always gave us trouble.
Speaker: You guys are tough, man.
Speaker: Yeah, but, dude, like, you talked, okay, like, you talked, well, he's not as old as Bergeron, but I just saw yesterday, or maybe it was the day before yesterday, the Hurricanes re-signed, like, Stahl, Jordan Stahl.
Speaker: I know, you must be pumped.
Speaker: I'm furious.
Speaker: I didn't even bring it up with you.
Speaker: You wanted to see the anger in my eyes when I saw it.
Speaker: I was like, this guy that has had, what, three goals in the last three playoff runs.
Speaker: To me, I don't care that he's captain.
Speaker: I think it's time to move on.
Speaker: Make Ajo captain.
Speaker: Make Bernsie a captain.
Speaker: I'm ready to move on for him.
Speaker: And I... Four years, dude.
Speaker: That's a long contract for someone that's his age.
Speaker: And the only reason I can think that they would do that is like, you know, like the coach, like Rob Brennan Moore looking out for him and wanting him to retire Hurricane because he's going to retire probably before that contract's up.
Speaker: And if he doesn't, then he'll retire at the end of it.
Speaker: And... Yeah.
Speaker: I just don't think that it's the right move for the Hurricanes.
Speaker: And I'm really...
Speaker: I'll be honest.
Speaker: I got really upset.
Speaker: Like when I saw it, cause I was like, I, this guy is not what they need.
Speaker: He's too, like, he's not fast enough.
Speaker: He's not explosive enough.
Speaker: And he just doesn't show up in the playoffs.
Speaker: So not, not a fan.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, you could even say that about a Bergeron, you know, it's just like age catches up to you, man.
Speaker: By the end of a season, I think Bergeron's,
Speaker: He's famous for his locker room presence and nothing phases the guy.
Speaker: And I think that added a lot of importance.
Speaker: But you could see it in the playoffs.
Speaker: He was a step slower than he used to be.
Speaker: He didn't really show up on the stats sheet.
Speaker: Well, he was playing with an injury in the playoffs, too.
Speaker: And Jordan Stahl wasn't.
Speaker: Jordan Stahl just was blowing it like he usually does.
Speaker: And Bergeron was like, what was he playing with, like a broken foot or something?
Speaker: Something like that, yeah.
Speaker: So, you know.
Speaker: Look to wait and see, man.
Speaker: But yeah, you guys, you're stuck with stuff.
Speaker: Can't stand it.
Speaker: Can't stand it.
Speaker: Because they were talking about him going to reunite with his brother.
Speaker: And I was like, oh, cool.
Speaker: Pancakes is going to love this.
Speaker: Get him out of here.
Speaker: Get him out of here.
Speaker: But what if his brother's under contract?
Speaker: So he couldn't go to the...
Speaker: Is his brother in a contract?
Speaker: I think he is.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't care enough to know because I don't like any of the Stahl brothers, if I'm being honest with you.
Speaker: I don't care for any of them.
Speaker: What if they trade for him and they reunite them?
Speaker: I'm going to boycott the Canes.
Speaker: Do you not even want to think about that?
Speaker: There's Canes' blanket behind me.
Speaker: It's going in my fireplace, if that were to ever happen.
Speaker: Well, it depends on which one you're talking about because the one on the Panthers –
Speaker: I can't remember which one's on the Panthers and then there's I forget I did too but one of them used to play on the Hurricanes and I can't remember which one used to play on the Hurricanes I would know if I saw their first names but I know one of the Stahl brothers used to play on the Hurricanes already and him you didn't mind well I mean it was before I like really lived here so I guess I just didn't care yeah yeah you didn't care so you know who doesn't really care who's that
Speaker: Dairy farmers.
Speaker: They don't care much about the NFL.
Speaker: Dairy farmers.
Speaker: High school teachers.
Speaker: These are some of the speculation, at least, for NFL refs, man.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Some of the worst officiating in any sport, NFL referees.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Script on that.
Speaker: I mean, why call them NFL referees at this point?
Speaker: Why don't we just call them the Kansas City referees or the Chiefs referees, you know?
Speaker: We could do that.
Speaker: We could do that.
Speaker: The KC referees.
Speaker: That's what the Chiefs need to change the name to.
Speaker: So Walt Coleman...
Speaker: Is a dairy farmer in Little Rock.
Speaker: And he's also an NFL referee.
Speaker: An NFL referee.
Speaker: To be clear, Fresh, to give our people some background, there is like this story that kind of got talked about today on Pat McAfee Show that the NFL referees, the highest level professional football, the referees for that sport, they're part time employees and they all have like other jobs.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: So imagine, okay, Ed Hockley is a famous name.
Speaker: He's apparently a lawyer at Jones, Skelton, and Hockley.
Speaker: A lawyer.
Speaker: A lawyer.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So we have a lawyer, dairy farmer, a founder of a sanitary supply company in Pennsylvania, ski equipment inventor guy, I guess.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: This is Mike Carey.
Speaker: He's
Speaker: uh, inventor who co-founded Searus innovation, which focuses on ski equipment.
Speaker: It says, okay.
Speaker: Um, an underwriter for all state insurance insurance underwriter is also an NFL referee.
Speaker: Well, that explains a lot, honestly.
Speaker: So, and the principal of St.
Speaker: Mary's high school in Stockton, California, um,
Speaker: before he was elevated to president in 2014.
Speaker: So he's like president of like that school district or something.
Speaker: Um, so those are six of the refs in the NFL and what they do for their careers.
Speaker: You would think if you're an NFL referee, you would say, I'm an NFL referee for my career, but they're like, no, I'm a lawyer.
Speaker: Oh, and I ref at the highest level of pretty much of professional sports in the, in the United States.
Speaker: Cause that's like the number one sport by far.
Speaker: So, um,
Speaker: You know, I guess the NFL is broke, right?
Speaker: They don't have big TV deals to make money or sell out stadiums.
Speaker: How would they have any money to pay these guys a full-time salary and have them be studying in the offseason?
Speaker: You mean to tell me, Fresh, that one of the most greedy professional organizations is the Russian part-time?
Speaker: That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They didn't just get a deal to have Amazon show their games on Thursday nights last year, you know, and Fox and CBS or whatever it is, you know.
Speaker: They're not playing games in London or anything for funsies.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: ESPN's not paying the rights to show all their clips on ESPN every single day through the fall.
Speaker: So, I don't know.
Speaker: Yeah, we're dumb because the NFL clearly doesn't have the money to give these guys a couple hundred grand.
Speaker: a year, whatever it would take, you know, I don't even think it would take that much.
Speaker: Six figures to be maybe for like, if you're a lawyer, whatever.
Speaker: But, you know, president of the school district.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: That one kind of, I could see you care about that.
Speaker: Like, great.
Speaker: Do that.
Speaker: Don't be an NFL.
Speaker: If you can do both.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Maybe don't do both though.
Speaker: But wouldn't you rather them with the state of affairs for NFL officiating?
Speaker: Like literally they have like – I want them to have like off-season camp for these guys that they're studying film the entire off-season.
Speaker: Don't even sleep.
Speaker: Just study film on like all the calls you've screwed up or what the right call should be, what the rule changes for the upcomings because they always change some little rules.
Speaker: How should you be calling pass interference?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, because that's so like they're just like sometimes they let it go.
Speaker: Sometimes they change the game with the pass interference.
Speaker: It's like you got to know.
Speaker: With them being part time on this fresh, it makes me feel like I'm back in like little league baseball again.
Speaker: And the guy that's like umpiring behind home plate, you know, is also like got another job on the side like that makes sense to me.
Speaker: It makes no sense to me that NFL referees.
Speaker: are part-time employees and that they're not doing things like this in the offseason, which I guess I shouldn't say that it doesn't make sense because it does if you look at the quality of the games that are called in the NFL.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But yeah, I don't want my buddy's dad, you know, refereeing an NFL game, you know, like literally gets left in.
Speaker: You know, or like the fucking janitor from my school, you know, little league games on the weekend.
Speaker: I don't want him calling the Super Bowl, bro.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Especially if my team's in there.
Speaker: That's banana rama.
Speaker: That's bananas.
Speaker: So, I mean...
Speaker: Dairy farmer, I guess he probably owns the dairy farmer.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Maybe he doesn't have to be there the whole time.
Speaker: I don't know how you're a lawyer.
Speaker: You're not like working an actual case throughout the entire fall, right?
Speaker: He must be like a partner in the firm or something like that where he can just like bounce for a bit and like drop his caseload off to like, you know, I can.
Speaker: I'm sure all these other places are like, oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker: You're an NFL ref.
Speaker: Like, yeah, pop in when he was pretty sweet.
Speaker: You know, I know Ed Hockley or whatever.
Speaker: But then, you know, these guys also get ripped apart.
Speaker: And it's a tough job.
Speaker: I don't want to take that away from...
Speaker: NFL refs, they're always going to get criticized, even if they got better.
Speaker: But the thing is, they haven't got better, right?
Speaker: Is it a tough job though, Fresh?
Speaker: Because you have the ability to put a play under review if there's a question about it.
Speaker: So is it tough to like use your eyes and look at something?
Speaker: And then if you like think that you might be wrong, go look at like a breakdown, a slow-mo breakdown of it.
Speaker: Yeah, but then so just to, you know, devil's advocate, like,
Speaker: If they do that too much, they're going to come under criticism for that.
Speaker: And then how long they do the reviews for, they get criticized for.
Speaker: I don't know, man.
Speaker: I've never been down there and tried to referee a game.
Speaker: Like, we've always had the benefit of, like, great camera angles, immediate instant replays on TV, you know, professionals that have done it before saying what they would have done.
Speaker: So, like, it's easy to be an armchair ref.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
Speaker: I do think they suck, but, like,
Speaker: You know, it's got to be tough sitting down there, you know, and you're like, okay, I'm just looking at the line.
Speaker: I'm just looking at, you know, where the pass goes.
Speaker: I'm, you know, I'm counting how many players are on the field.
Speaker: Make sure that it's 11 on 11, you know, all those little things they have to do.
Speaker: It's like a, it's pretty vigorous job, dude.
Speaker: You know?
Speaker: Well, there's quite a few of them like on the field too.
Speaker: So like, I'm sure like one guy's probably counting players or whatever, but.
Speaker: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker: But you got to be like, do that.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Be ready to go.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: You don't know the plays before they're called.
Speaker: You know, they better not know unless it's scripted.
Speaker: This brings me back to my point that I've made like a few episodes ago that we just need AI to develop further enough so that we can have robo-riffs, you know, robo-riffs.
Speaker: Yeah, that's terrifying.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: I kind of agree.
Speaker: I think it would be interesting.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: What if the coaches argue with them and they're like, this coach is in my way.
Speaker: It must.
Speaker: Oh, you're getting dark with it rather than like.
Speaker: It's terrifying.
Speaker: You never watched movies before?
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So not only have these robot refs, you know, there's they like become really sentient rather than just like having like objective analysis.
Speaker: They they've also become murderous, sentient and murderous.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Some guy's like, come on, Raph, how are you calling that?
Speaker: And he's like, eliminate.
Speaker: They have, like, lasers come out of their eyes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, he's like, I don't have time for this.
Speaker: I got to call the next play.
Speaker: Let's get this obstacle out of my way.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: I think that would make the arguments more interesting if I saw a coach arguing with a robot over a call.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It would be like, hey, you might have sort of, I don't know, look, I'm not being a problem here, but it's possible you missed that call.
Speaker: You know, like, yeah.
Speaker: You'd be so upset at them, like, yelling and screaming.
Speaker: Yeah, they're just like, do you mind looking at it again, you know?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They have, like, a glass shield in front of them to protect them.
Speaker: Like, look, don't do the lazy thing, all right?
Speaker: Let's not just go right to laziness here, but I just, you know, you might have.
Speaker: Oh, that would make it so much more fun to watch.
Speaker: That would be kind of entertaining, yeah.
Speaker: Kind of went off on a tangent.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, an AI laser eye robot might be better than a dairy farmer.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: So time will tell.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, I agree with you on that.
Speaker: You've taken all of my words that I had left away.
Speaker: I have nothing else to... I mean, that covers it all right there.
Speaker: You said everything that you need to be said.
Speaker: I got something I'd say.
Speaker: Can I say?
Speaker: Oh, it's a podcast.
Speaker: I can say whatever I want.
Speaker: So Damian Lillard playing Welcome to Miami on his Instagram Live.
Speaker: Damian Lillard is an all-star, superstar,
Speaker: For the Portland Trailblazers, he's really, really good at basketball.
Speaker: Talking about Miami, there's a lot of interest in him going to the Miami Heat, who made it to the finals, lost to Denver, beat teams.
Speaker: I can't remember who they beat on the way, but they beat a team or two on the way.
Speaker: And you know what, Miami?
Speaker: Go get him.
Speaker: Go get him, Miami.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Yeah, he'll put up points.
Speaker: Doesn't play a lick of defense.
Speaker: Doesn't know what he's doing.
Speaker: Miami didn't look like they played any defense either against Nuggets.
Speaker: Not against Joker, you know.
Speaker: Go ahead, Miami.
Speaker: Go get Damien.
Speaker: What are you going to give up?
Speaker: Kentucky Tyler Harrow?
Speaker: You're going to probably give him up.
Speaker: That would be stupid to give up Tyler Harrow for Damien Lillard.
Speaker: Tyler Harrow is younger and probably got maybe more potential with who he's around.
Speaker: He's a shooter.
Speaker: He's a dog.
Speaker: I mean, Dame, yeah.
Speaker: Will Dame sell more tickets?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Will he score more points?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Will he play better defense?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: I don't know how he'll get along in the locker room.
Speaker: He'll have to become the alpha right away, so Butler becomes number two.
Speaker: Is Butler okay with that?
Speaker: No, I don't think so.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I mean, I never met him, but it might not be good.
Speaker: You know, it's hard when you, like, have been the guy.
Speaker: your playoff Jimmy for the heat.
Speaker: Look what we did.
Speaker: Eight seed made it to the finals.
Speaker: I think Jimmy deserves that role in the locker room.
Speaker: I think it would be like messed up if Damian Lord came in and tried to take that from playoff Jimmy.
Speaker: But he, I mean, he is that good, but if I'm playoff Jimmy, I just got an eight seed to the finals.
Speaker: And then my organization's like, Hey, amazing job.
Speaker: You're number two guy.
Speaker: Like you're getting basically demoted in the, in the locker room hierarchy.
Speaker: Like,
Speaker: I don't know about that.
Speaker: So go get him, Miami.
Speaker: What are you going to give up?
Speaker: Your future two first round picks?
Speaker: Probably Tyler Hero.
Speaker: Do you think that there's that's like a real thing or do you like how crazy is it?
Speaker: For example, you said that like these rumors started flying because he like played a song on Instagram live.
Speaker: Well, he hasn't come out and been like, no, I love Portland.
Speaker: I want to stay in Portland.
Speaker: I wouldn't want to stay in Portland.
Speaker: I think he needs to get out of there.
Speaker: But like, I'm just saying that, like, isn't it crazy that that amount of speculation of him going to Miami comes from him playing that or like it is a little bit.
Speaker: He also or do you think that he's just trying to manipulate the situation in his favor?
Speaker: Do you think that maybe that's where he wants to go?
Speaker: Miami has like no real interest.
Speaker: I do like we don't care if you fucking play a song on your Instagram live to try to come here.
Speaker: Like, we're set.
Speaker: We don't need you.
Speaker: That stuff does happen.
Speaker: Yeah, I could totally could be his agent being like, dude, you want to stir some shit up?
Speaker: Get people talking about you?
Speaker: Like all the teams in the NBA talking about you and all the media?
Speaker: Go play like Welcome to Miami on your Instagram.
Speaker: Watch what happens.
Speaker: That could be it.
Speaker: That could be it.
Speaker: You know, I almost go get him, man.
Speaker: Give up your first two first round picks.
Speaker: I've heard people, you know, writers and stuff say, well, Butler's defense is so good.
Speaker: It'll help make up for James bad defense.
Speaker: I'm like, bro, it's still only five guys out there.
Speaker: If you have one guy that's bad at defense, like, all right, you can cover it up.
Speaker: But how much fully?
Speaker: No, you're not two people.
Speaker: You're one guy, Jimmy Butler.
Speaker: Go get him.
Speaker: Jason Tatum's going to just dunk on him all day long.
Speaker: Well, there is no defense in the NBA anymore.
Speaker: We've talked about this fresh.
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: You can't touch a guy.
Speaker: You can't touch him.
Speaker: I just thought of something because it literally just popped into my head, and I've been meaning to tell you about this.
Speaker: Shoot.
Speaker: Do you remember in, like, I would say it was like the early, mid-2000s, do you remember Slam Ball where it was basketball, but it was like basketball mixed with hockey?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And they would jump on trampolines and dunk, but they also kind of wore pads and you could kind of like lay a guy out.
Speaker: Do you remember this at all?
Speaker: They would like jump on trampolines and like just jump so high, like defense and offense.
Speaker: It was called slam ball and it was very popular.
Speaker: But I might be just picturing what you just described.
Speaker: It's coming back.
Speaker: Slam ball is coming back.
Speaker: And it's like a mixture of hockey and basketball.
Speaker: Yeah, they like part of it's like running on like, I guess, like maybe not like hardwood, but like more flexible.
Speaker: flooring and then there's like trampolines on the floor and they like run and just like full sprint jump on these trampolines to like soar and dunk there's like trampolines in certain spots right with like stuff they can run on in between can also do that so like you run and jump on the trampoline and the guy like playing defense also jumps up and just knocks the crap out of you like that that's fine okay immediate thoughts
Speaker: Not very interested.
Speaker: A. Okay.
Speaker: B. Maybe it's fun.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I haven't seen enough.
Speaker: That sounds like the type of league that like I could play in.
Speaker: Like it doesn't take any basketball.
Speaker: Probably not.
Speaker: I think it would be more of like the days of like arena football, you know?
Speaker: But that's kind of what it is for basketball almost.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or like lingerie football.
Speaker: Lingerie football.
Speaker: That's slam ball.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Just kind of a gimmicky.
Speaker: But, like, it could be fun to watch.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Do you think you'd watch?
Speaker: Do you think you'd, like, follow a team?
Speaker: No, there's no way.
Speaker: No, but I can't wait for the highlights.
Speaker: Yeah, they'll be good highlights.
Speaker: Why did it go away?
Speaker: The guy that owned the league got into a dispute with the network that had the rights of it, and he just dissolved it instead.
Speaker: And what was the network?
Speaker: ESPN 75?
Speaker: Something that you had to be on late at night in the 300s channel.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: At 3 a.m.
Speaker: on Lifetime, we're playing.
Speaker: Slam ball, dude.
Speaker: Check it out.
Speaker: We're not ever going to advertise it.
Speaker: It's not even on the TV listings.
Speaker: You have to literally just stumble on it, dude.
Speaker: I mean, it could be funny.
Speaker: It'd be like watching dodgeball, I guess.
Speaker: Yeah, it's similar to lingerie, football, and dodgeball, I guess I would say.
Speaker: But I'm excited to see the highlights or what it even looks like now.
Speaker: Is it netting around the sides?
Speaker: It must be.
Speaker: I can't remember.
Speaker: I was literally like a kid when it was on, I feel like, the last time.
Speaker: It must be like netting.
Speaker: Because otherwise you're going to...
Speaker: You're going to fly into the stands.
Speaker: If a guy's body checking you and you're both jumping off a trampoline.
Speaker: That would be even more hilarious.
Speaker: You're in the 20th row, dude.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Covered in some guy's beer.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: So it's got to be nutty.
Speaker: We'll see.
Speaker: Now I'm a little, the more I talk about it, I'm more and more curious about it.
Speaker: Well, it's called Slam Ball, if you want to go look up some old highlights on fucking Lifetime at 3 a.m.
Speaker: Slam Ball reruns.
Speaker: I don't know why I'm saying Lifetime.
Speaker: I don't think that's the channel that would ever.
Speaker: It's just the only random channel I could think of.
Speaker: But yeah, Miami, go get Dame.
Speaker: If it doesn't work out, you guys can always
Speaker: Go play slam ball when you're retired.
Speaker: Have a second career in the slam ball.
Speaker: But, yeah, that's it for me, man.
Speaker: I mean, you got anything else?
Speaker: I think we covered almost every sport.
Speaker: We haven't covered baseball yet.
Speaker: That's coming.
Speaker: Well, we covered it last week.
Speaker: I fell down, and that was the most interesting part about the game.
Speaker: That's true.
Speaker: You're at the game.
Speaker: I need the Sox to step it up, but they might be slowly.
Speaker: Get it together.
Speaker: We'll see.
Speaker: We'll see.
Speaker: We'll talk about that next week after we go on a seven-game winning streak in the meantime.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: You got Slam Ball to break on, so let me – I'm going to break for Bertuzzi.
Speaker: Do you want to go first this time?
Speaker: Oh, no.
Speaker: Bertuzzi first.
Speaker: Bertuzzi over Slam Ball?
Speaker: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker: Bertuzzi over Slam Ball for sure.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Ready?
Speaker: I think it was close.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Oh, your second pick.
Speaker: What's his name for Michigan?
Speaker: Oh, Adam.
Speaker: No, we'll go slam ball just because I think that the highlights would be hilarious for us to talk about.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Eventually.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Slam ball.
Speaker: Ready?
Speaker: Break.
Speaker: Break.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I'm going to laugh if that was the one that was like on top.
Speaker: It looks like, I don't know, because we're laughing.
