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Hey, everyone. Welcome back.
Celebrating Milestones with Humor
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We've made it to Dumble Digits, Chapter 10, to celebrate I had a colonoscopy. We'll talk about that in a bit. And we'll learn a lot about fasting, which can take longer than you think. There's going to be some bad jokes. Doc even swears. So brace
Introduction to Dr. Val Saves Dave
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yourselves. It's another steaming pile of Dr. Val Saves Dave.
Turning 50 and Seeking Health
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Hey everybody, have you heard the news? Dave's turning 50 and he's got the blues He's out of shape and this is true He needs help, he has no clue He grabs his phone and she can't quit Don't you bow, we'll do her trick She'll be tough, there's no free pass Come on Dave, get off your ass Don't you bow, can you save Dave? He's called a lie
Morning Anecdotes and Personal Stories
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doctor. Good morning. And good morning, listener. It is May 10th, and this is chapter 10 of Dr. Val Saves Dave. Welcome back. How are you today, doctor?
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I am absolutely fantastic. I would say I'm high on life, but coffee is like speed for me. So I'm actually high on the coffee. I'm actually having some today. Well, let's get everybody caught up then on our morning. So I feel like this is a bit my fault. Yeah, it is. I believe we've never really delved into it, but I have ADHD. That's documented. And this morning I did one of my classic moves.
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which was I couldn't remember if I had taken one of my brain pills or not. And so I took a second one as it turns out, but I never know until they kick in. And then I'm like, Oh yeah, I had taken one for sure. So I'm a little speedy. So Dr. Val has decided to have a coffee to keep up. So Dr. Val doesn't normally have a lot of coffee, do you doc?
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No, I don't. And it happens to hit my system like speed. So you are going to see the effects of this drug on my system. And now I'm keeping up with Dave. So welcome to a super speedy episode of Dr. Rouser's Dave. Anyway, before we get too further along here, I just want to point out that this is the actual speed that we will be talking throughout the episode.
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We'll try to slow it down for you. Our professional team will slow down for us. That's why we hire professionals to do the sound. They'll figure it out. I thought you meant we would be professionals and actually slow down. No.
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I haven't had a coffee in months. So the smell of your coffee is a very unkind gesture. Anything that I can do to just move the podcast forward, because that's the team player I am. This is like a chapter 10 level of Sensei training where now we've removed the coffee, but now I have to be able to sit in the coffee smell.
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Without wanting the coffee, this is how you're testing me. Yes, because you're going to be exposed to those situations in life. Yes. Thank you, doctor.
Dave's Weight Loss Journey
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good. Thank you for testing me, Sensei. I welcome the challenge. You honor me with this test. Okay, so there's big news this week for anyone who's invested in these sorts of things. This week was the first week in 20 some years, I couldn't even tell you the last time, where the first number of my weight was a one. Woohoo!
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We broke the 200 barrier, ladies and gentlemen, which means since January 14th to May 10th, I have lost 20 plus pounds, we can officially say now, from 220 to 198.6. So well done, doctor.
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Well, it's all you, Dave, because you were the one who did all the hard work. So I will take none of the credit. And you should give yourself a ton of credit for just because, you know, as you said, right from the beginning, change is strange.
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Change feels strange, and I have a new one to add to that. You know how I love my little maxims, my little idioms, but yes, change feels strange. It's been one I've been using for years and years. Here's my new one, though. Feeling great doesn't always feel great. We better delve into that and explain. Why would you say that? Feel great, because for me, feeling great feels great.
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Yeah, but there's a lot of days in this journey where I have been going through withdrawal. I have been withholding things I would like to experience. Like coffee today. Okay, good, yeah, yeah. Or like coffee, that beautiful smelling cup of joe you get going there. Thank you, Chris. It is absolutely spectacular.
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But also, you know, doing some of the David Thunder exercises, doing some of the toga and experiencing a complete mental panic attack because my toes wouldn't move. A
Philosophy of Feeling Great
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lot of the, you know, it hasn't all been sunshine.
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to get here, but I do feel great. I feel great. It just hasn't always felt great getting here. So that's all. I'm just going to say feeling great doesn't always feel great. That's part of it. But you're working towards goals, as David Thunder also taught us, it's easier to work towards than away from. So I'm going towards the smell of your coffee, not away from the smell of your delicious caffeine. Eventually this will come back in.
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Yeah, I don't need it. Okay, good. Yeah, you got the concerto, you're fine. Was that a test? Yeah. Are you testing me right there? I was, yeah. No, I don't. You want some? Want some? No. That's not the drink I'm looking for.
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For those of you who are not in the studio, there was a hand gesture that went along with that. It was just an Obi-Wan. It was a great Star Wars reference for all of you Star Wars geeks out there. This is not the drink I'm looking for. It's not.
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Okay, so the other thing that happened this week, a week of firsts, my first week seeing a one in front. And by the way, that only lasted about an hour. I think I went right back up to 200,000. You celebrated with a beer, or actually I know you, a martini. Yeah, because I'm off beer. Another test. Nice try. No, it's just gin, just straight gin, because of the botanicals. Well, if you put olives in it. Which I do sometimes, but for breakfast I prefer
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Onions? Just the floral arrangement. Oh, I see. Of the botanicals. Yes, just the striped gin's great. Obviously, we're kidding around, but not really. I no longer have gin for breakfast. He saves it for dessert. I save it for the rare occasion when I'm having a drink. And then, yes, gin on the rocks. Ooh, drinking tip, ladies and gentlemen out there. Very important. From my master class on drinking.
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You should know that if you are just going to drink gin or vodka, as I do now because I'm off all the things that upset my tummy, if you are saying, say you want to get a gin or a double on the rocks, just order a martini, which often comes with three ounces of alcohol, and then ask for it on the rocks in a rocks glass.
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There you go. And then basically you're going to get yourself three ounces of gin or vodka instead of the one or the double ounce that you would be paying extra for. And you just hold the vermouth.
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Yeah, no vermouth, just ice. And then they go, so just glass of gin? Yep, but at Martini prices, please. So anyhow, that's how you save a buck while getting drunk from old daddy Dave here. And that's why you listen to this podcast to get quality health advice. Some of you may not be, you know, that interested in this healthy journey.
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And maybe you're different stages. You just want to get drunk fast. Listen to the old doctor here. That was worth the price of admission, right? Yeah, that's right. I should have a doctorate in drinking. You should. I really should. There are certain bars. A PH drunk. Yeah, I get it. A PHD. That's pretty hammered and drunk. That's my PHD. There you go. No, pretty happy drunk. There we go. You're more accurate. Pretty happy drunk. PHD. All right, there you go.
Colonoscopy and Gastroscopy Tales
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Okay, so the other thing that happened this week, and this really isn't exciting, but I feel we should share it because it's part of the journey, was I had a colonoscopy. Tell me you're 50 without telling me you're turning 50. Colonoscopy and a gastroscopy. Gastrooscopy? Gastroscopy. Gastroscopy.
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So the gastroscopy is where they go down your throat to look at your stomach and the colonoscopy, well, the answer's in the question. I think we all know where they're scoping in the colonoscopy. So gastroscopy, colonoscopy, I asked them, oh, and true story, my colonoscopist, my endoscopist, what would you refer to these people as?
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gastroenterologist. Yes, that fellow. His name was, no joke, Dr. Shetty. Dr. Shetty did my colonoscopy, and I'd like to buy a vowel, please, Pat. You'd like to buy your vowel? I'd like to buy a vowel. I'd like to buy a vowel. I was like, come on, Shetty? No way. Yeah. So many jokes. Should we get a bunch of puns out of the way?
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Well, we could, but that might be shitty for the listener. Oh, did Dr. Val say a swear? I did. Oh, good for you. I'm impressed. What else you got tucked in there? Which is what Dr. Shetty said. Did he at least buy you dinner first? Because, you know, going down the throat and up the rectum, that's like a first date for some people. I did ask that they please do the mouth first.
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And they assured me they switch. I said, well then, you know, whatever order you want. Have fun. But otherwise mouth first, please. Because you're passed out. They can do what they want to. Yep.
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That's why they do. And they clearly did. They helped themselves to me. But first things first, credit to you, doctor, because the gastroscopy revealed what may have been, in their opinion, the remnants of what was an ulcer back over the... We cheer the fact that it's a remnant because I think
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You know, what happens with a lot of people is because of their lifestyle and for some people that stress, that's living a high performance lifestyle without fueling it properly. For other people, it's a little bit excessive drinking and a more lifestyle. They seem to suggest that alcohol may have been a factor.
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But you know, they're always looking for a chance to blame alcohol for everything. So you just water off a duck's back. Yeah. Or vodka off a duck's back. Yeah. It may have been the alcohol, but you know, we're not a hundred percent on that. Anyway, the more important part was that it was healed. And also the duodenitis gastritis, where there was some
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Irritation and inflammation of the wall. They said there's just a very little bit of red left. So that is basically healed as well. So a full bravo to you, doctor. You did the hard work. I would not have known what to do. I would have had no chance. I would never have eaten or lived the way I have the last few months. So that stomach issue would have continued to develop and would have grown if Dr. Val hadn't saved Dave.
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Yay. And that's the end of our podcast. The answer is she did it. The answer is, hey, you might not need medication. You just have to get good quality advice. There are natural things that you can do to heal that. So
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And I think for some people, their first thing would be like, hey, I'm developing an ulcer or I have gastritis or I have reflux. I have to go on this medication. And they go on the medication and they keep continuing the lifestyle patterns that are contributing to it. And you don't have to do that. If you have, get rid of the initiating factor, your body will heal itself. And it's amazing what the body can heal from.
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Just don't mess with it. If you know how the body works. Yes. But at the, you know, when I was what, a neophyte. Yes. Now I'm barely a padawan of body. But a side note, reflux was my favorite Duran Duran song. They're of the right
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H group. That's the sound my belly makes. Not anymore. Pouring gin on the minulsar. Yes, that would be what happens. The reflux. They're going to record that next. It was probably their working title. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What if it's reflux? So the colonoscopy also revealed clean bill of health. So I am now licensed to kill.
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I am back out in the world baby with a relatively healed stomach, although not quite perfect. It's okay. Uh, still there, but with our new IgG, uh, diet strategy in place to continue to reduce inflammation, we may see, uh, uh, the, the correct version of me.
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Yep. On schedule for July 14th, my 50th birthday. You will heal that. Oh, there we go. We may pull this off yet. Yeah. And the only way to know for sure is to get you another colonoscopy by that time. I'm not getting that. Listeners, I think you should write in because that's the only way we'll know for sure. Listeners, our listeners want to know. Do they? Yeah. Are you completely healed by the time you turn 50? Okay, let's wait. You forward me the emails we get.
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Because I'm not just taking your word for this one. Yeah, do it again, Dave. Actually, doctor. Because that's pleasant. Dr. Shetty said, I don't need a colonoscopy for another 15 years, 10 years or so. I was so clean. There we go. Not only that, he said that in 10 years, I don't even need a colonoscopy. I could just send in a stool sample. I'll poop in an envelope, if you will. Yeah, I could. Why wait for 10 years? Well, I mean, try to stop me.
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You know how much I love taking a crap in an envelope and sending it to people. It's a regular Saturday night for you. I prefer Sunday mornings, actually, because Saturday night is a good- Oh, you're storing it up. Yeah, that's where you have at it.
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Um, let's talk bowel movement stuff. Let's get to the bottom of this. What are you, three, four a day? Well, the average, the ideal, what is supposed to be happening is you should be having two to three bowel movements per day, meal in, meal out. That's the way it should be. Two to three every day. Well, I would love to hear from our listeners how many people have two to three. I think you should post that. Backdoor evac.
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So we have a social media Instagram account. I think everybody would like to share on that. Yeah. Yeah. Go share it to the world. Hashtag crappy. Hashtag Humpty Dump. Hashtag. Did you say Humpty Dump? Yeah. That's right. You can't put it back together again. And why would you want to? I don't know. It's had a big fall.
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If you do it correctly, you shouldn't do it too. Yeah, so two to three a day. And then on an off day, and again, sorry people, but let's just talk poop for a minute. We've got the opportunity. Listen, people do it all the time. And nobody wants to talk about it except my buddies. But, you know, consenting adults should be able to find out how healthy their bowel movements are compared to the national average, let's say, or at least in this case, you, but you're an extreme example, I would say, because you eat
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the way, you know, science has designed a human body to eat, but the rest of us don't. So, first of all, I'm not going to comment on my current patterns because I've just had a colonoscopy and I don't know. I thought there would be far more evacuation material. You know, you have to drink the peg light. You drink for, if anyone hasn't had one yet, you have to drink a lot of liquid that's designed to get everything out of you.
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And there wasn't, I was braced for more, but I think you've had me eating so well that my bowel regularity, the evacuation, my scheduled evacuation, my regularity, I believe is another term people enjoy using, was such that it wasn't a nightmare at all. And then afterwards, now I only slept for two hours because you have to get up and drink more of this garbage.
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And boy, did it need gin, by the way. Peglite really needs gin, olives, or onions, lemon twist. There's a lot of ways you could improve peglite. Now on two hours sleep, I went in for the procedure and there was anesthesia. You do have the option of staying awake for it. I declined. Yeah, I would be with you on that one. I don't need to... As a comedian, I should have stayed awake.
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As a human being, I wanted no part of it. Just do what you gotta do. Wake me up when it's over. So I saw the anesthesiologist and said, great, I've only had a couple hours of sleep. Let's knock me out. 45 minutes, I'd say I was out. And I got home and felt great. I was braced for a miserable day. I felt fantastic. I went to a golf boss that afternoon. You're not supposed to be doing anything afterwards. I felt amazing. So it led me to question
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whether the fasting that I had done, because I couldn't eat for 20, I was only on a couple hours sleep and I'd had medical procedures. I shouldn't have felt good at all. I should have been going right home to bed. I should have been in a negative place and instead I felt amazing, fantastic energy. So this episode, I think we should talk about fasting.
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I think we should. But. But. Literally. Yes, but. B-U-T-T or B-U-T? We have a few more poo jokes to get through. I knew it was coming. I'm not letting you off the crapper that easy.
Understanding Bowel Movements
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Our four listeners. Um, nevermind that this is an adult conversation. Our listeners are probably keen to find out cause nobody asks. So you have two to three bowel movements every day. That's normal. Yes. Is it? Yeah. Okay. So in my past anyways, I certainly haven't had a bowel movement every day. Uh, but also I certainly haven't had three every day. Uh, are your scheduled like clockwork, like, like a half hour after you eat or two hours after you eat, what's your system?
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Well, my body is in a routine, so they happen at fairly regular times. And the standard first thing in the morning, feeling nice and evacuated, that's definitely one of them. And I think that's a really common one for a lot of people. But generally, again, meal in, meal out. No, I don't want to put you on the spot. You have a respectable business, you run.
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professional person but would you say the the quality the consistency of your bowel movements is similar throughout the week or do you find there are some variations based on because you eat so specifically I do yeah that if you were to have something you wouldn't normally do do you notice then an adjustment in your waist
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Evacuation? In your fertilizer. And have you been able to pinpoint over your illustrious career of learning how to speak the body that certain foods might create a runnier stool versus a firmer stool, and do you measure your health in any way by your stool?
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Well, you have to be able to measure your health by your stool. It is a really important indicator of what's going on in the body. And there are foods like, for example, beets. Every time someone eats beets, you have to write a note in your phone to remind yourself. Yeah, because you're going to see the color in the stool. Yeah, I've had more than one heart attack before remembering I had beets.
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Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, there are things that are common. So I know if I have more magnesium as a supplement, like let's say I've had a harder workout, my muscles are sore and I'm like, Oh, I'm going to up my magnesium to counterbalance. Or, you know, I've had a day where my mind is racing a little bit more and I want to calm it down before bedtime. And I take some magnesium for that. I know my stool is going to be more loose the next day. That's just normal. Um, if I do have dairy, which I try not to have, but if I have some exposure,
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I know that that's going to, my stool is going to be more solid. I might be more constipated. So those are kind of normal ways or normal things that happen. So foods do affect the stool, but on a regular basis, just eating clean and eating the regular way that I eat, my stool stays fairly normal, fairly, fairly same. And you want it to be that way. It should be that way.
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All right. Well, there you have it. Asked and answered. It should be well-formed. Sure. Okay. You shouldn't have to strain to have a bowel movement. You should be having two to three a day. Should both temples be throbbing? No. You should not have veins popping out of your head. Do you break into a sweat? Yeah, no. No. Okay. And do you have both feet on the ground?
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Well, if I can reach it, I'm really short. They stick straight out on the toilet. I have to get the little stool to put my feet on. You get the little unicorn pooper, the little stool to put your feet up. Adorable.
00:22:53
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You know, if you're short, you got to adapt. Sure, sure, yeah. Yeah, that's sexy. Put your feet on the bathtub. I shouldn't have had coffee today. Oh, coffee, that'll affect the school. Call me in the morning. My bowel movements increase when I have coffee. Okay, good to know. That's for a lot of people. There you go.
00:23:19
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I haven't paid a lot of attention to mine over the years or the consistency of it. But since this is such a hot topic, people should be concerned about it though. People should pay attention. So I'll make a point of writing them all down and sending them to you. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. I'll just record the whole experience for you. I'll do a little journal entry, maybe some audio recordings. Dave's log. Doc's quick on the coffee.
00:23:50
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I told you it was like speed for me. We shouldn't let me drink this. I'll make entries in my daily log for you. Thanks. Brilliant. Okay, let's move on. That's a shitty conversation. You all love it when people talk shit. About us? Yeah, there we go. Yeah, we're going to beat them to it.
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Ah, crap. Okay, enough. Seriously.
Exploring Fasting Methods
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Fasting. Let's talk about fasting. Once upon a time when this journey started, I remember, I think we documented this in one of the earlier episodes that I was going to be flying and wasn't going to be able to find the foods that I should be eating. So I said, why don't I just not eat?
00:24:37
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Yeah. And you said wrong. Yeah. And I said, what? How could that be wrong? And you explained to me, let me do my terrible version of it. Okay, go ahead. Let me see if I get it wrong. Go ahead. You got to speak in my voice. Come on. You're a comedian. I am not. Go ahead. Woo hoo! Yay!
00:24:59
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Good morning, morning. So the body isn't already. That's not what you sound like. But you said, if I recall, and I'll paraphrase, that the body, my body needs to learn that it doesn't have to store everything because I had been so malnourished.
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from eating so poorly that my body was clinging to everything in order to squeeze what it could out of whatever I had, and that I needed to eat every three hours, protein specifically, every three hours so that my body would learn that it doesn't need to store things, that there's more common, there's a conveyor belt of protein coming, so it can start getting rid of stuff. That's, how'd I do? Awesome.
00:25:54
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Okay, so now though that I fasted, which as an adult, I've never, I don't know if I've ever, and I'm blessed to be able to say this, but I don't think I've ever gone 36 hours without eating. Yay. I've eaten. Yay. See, I knew there'd be a yay somewhere. You're right. It's a blessing. When I look around the world, obviously not everybody has that luxury. Even in Canada, not everybody has that luxury.
00:26:18
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So many places, but for perspective, it's great to remember that you eat every day. You got Cadillac problems if you're eating every day. So having fasted for the first time, I did have energy. I did feel pretty good. So
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Is it possible now that I have healed to a level or that my body has learned the news that food is coming to a point where I should consider fasting? And if so,
00:26:50
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Download everything you know about fasting. Hit me with all the types of fasts, what goes on, let's talk fasting for people out there. Um, I'll start the ball with this. I've heard, I mean, breakfast is obviously the compound word break fast. Uh, you know, you don't eat at night and you get up and you break your fast by.
00:27:08
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Some people wait longer when they start their day to eat as a continued fast. So let's start with that. When people wake up, should they eat right away? Should they not eat right away? I'm sure it's particular to other people, but tell the world.
00:27:26
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Awesome. You are correct in saying there can be some really amazing, positive, and fantastic benefits of fasting. And so this is the perfect time to get out into fasting and start really delving into that conversation. With respect to who should fast, there are some people who it's going to work really well for and there are some that it won't and that it's not appropriate for. So it really is about knowing what you want to accomplish with the fasting and then where your body's biochemistry is.
00:27:56
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So for example, men generally tend to do better with fasting and longer periods of fasting than women. For women, our hormones respond very differently to fasting. It responds really a lot quicker. And so if we fast too much,
00:28:14
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it'll cause our body to put on weight. It'll throw off our hormone balance. So it's not the greatest thing because remember what we're trying to do is get the body to optimize and feel safe. And if you are like when you first started, if you were to try to fast, it would not have been a really good healing tool for your body because again, you were nutrient deprived already.
00:28:36
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Your body was going into starvation mode and it would have pulled everything in, all of its resources in it. All of the starvation hormones in your body would have gone up. It would have caused more stress on your system. Wasn't appropriate timing. But now that we're down the road and we've got quite a bit of healing, yeah, now we can access the therapeutic value of it. And there can be a lot of value for fasting. So there's a number of different ways of fasting. There is intermittent fasting.
00:29:03
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There's juice fasting. There's something called dry fasting or black fasting. And so depending on what you want to achieve and accomplish, the health goals is the one that you choose. So let's break it down then. So intermittent fasting is the one that's very popular right now, very trendy. It's all the chatter.
00:29:26
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on the fasting pages out there, wherever people talk about this stuff. Just in culture, people mention it, you hear it in passing. How would you properly intermittently fast?
00:29:41
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There's different ways of doing it. So there's one way that Dave Asprey made really popular. And let's give him a shout out because Dave Asprey and Bulletproof Executive, the information, the quality of information that he puts out is really great. And he's one of the people who's really behind the trend of fasting and ketogenic way of eating being really popular. He's got a great system. So definitely shout out to Dave Asprey.
00:30:08
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So, he talks about 18.6. So, you fast for 18 hours and you eat for six. Hang on. I just want you to appreciate the maturity I had in not making any poop jokes. We're on a theme here. I thought we were moving forward. You keep bringing up Dave Asbury. You know what was buried in my ass on Monday? The camera. Dr. Shetty. I was Dave Asbury.
00:30:33
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I'm not ass-buried. Oh, sorry, I misheard you. Apologies to Mr. Asbury.
00:30:42
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It goes the credibility of this podcast. There it goes. Oh, that was gone. Eight minutes into episode one. That really was. Yeah. Sorry. No, no, no. I'm living proof that you know what you're talking about. Yep. So, sorry to cut you off, but I wasn't going to make it. Great maturity so far. Thank you. Ask Barry. Just get it out of my system. Ask Barry. Yep. Okay. I think I'm okay now.
00:31:11
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our medical disclaimer. Before you go down the rabbit hole of kale smoothies and laughter yoga, a quick reminder, we're not your doctor. We might have the prescription for a good joke, but when it comes to your health, consult the pros. So laugh and learn, but keep that stethoscope handy, just in case.
00:31:30
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Hey everybody, Dave here. I hope you're enjoying the journey with Dr. Val and I so far. If you haven't yet, be sure to like or subscribe or follow us or whatever they tell you to do on Spotify or Apple or whatever platform you listen to us on. And if you have any questions or if you want to follow up on anything we've discussed on the show so far, head on over to Instagram and find us there at Dr. Val Saves Dave. Send us a message with your questions and we'll be sure to answer them on a future podcast.
00:31:58
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Hey, thanks for listening and be good to yourself. So that guy is really great. Yeah. So with the bulletproof coffee. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you were saying. So he does 18.6. He recommends 18.6. And so you fast for 18 hours and you eat for six and
00:32:20
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He talks about the quality of foods that you eat during those six hours. He recommends ketogenic way of eating. But when you look at the studies on the benefits of fasting, it doesn't really matter. If you do a ketogenic way of eating or a Mediterranean, it doesn't matter. The calorie count, as long as it's healthy, good foods, it's great for your body. That works really well for men.
00:32:41
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And I've seen people do ketogenic way of eating a lot in paired with the 18-6 way of eating. I've seen men like just shred, like just they sculpt, they just melt. And it can be very wonderful when their body is healed and when it's ready to do.
00:32:59
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that type of work without throwing it into like a starvation mode.
Advanced Fasting Benefits
00:33:03
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For women, I find that the 18-6 is a little bit too much. It's a little bit too long of a fast. And I find for women, especially if you're under stress and of a reproductive age,
00:33:15
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you're going to have shifts in your hormone balance because your body is going to experience for women, our body will go, oh, wait, this is starvation. Not a good idea to get pregnant. So the hormones start shifting out of balance. And this is where a lot of women, if they have a male partner who is doing the same thing that they're doing and the male is turning into a Don is like sculpting into like, like Mike, uh,
00:33:40
Speaker
basically the statue of David, right? And so he's getting all ripped and she's gaining weight and she's looking all flabby. And she's like, I don't get it. And they get so frustrated. And this is why it's, you're not eating to your body's biochemistry. So there's another way of eating beyond 18, six, which is called a five to two.
00:34:01
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So you do five days of regular eating and two days where you have lower amounts of calories where you're not eating at all. You're completely doing water fast or you're doing juices or you maybe do a smaller amount of calories. So limiting it to less than 500 calories or around 500 calories. So that's another way of fasting. And then there's something called OMAD, which is one meal a day.
00:34:28
Speaker
So some people just eat one meal a day. So those are different ways that you can do fasting. Above and beyond that, you can also do just a juice fast. Or I know people who sometimes for my patients, I'll have them do what I call a reboot, a metabolic reboot. So once a month for two days of the week.
00:34:48
Speaker
No food, just water. And so if people's bodies are ready for that, you can actually tap into a great deal of healing. So as you go from like a 12 hour to an 18 hour fast, you're actually starting to get better utilization of your insulin levels. And so you're starting to give the pancreas a bit of a rest. So you're getting a really good healing phase. So if you're looking at weight loss and if you're looking at wanting to prevent diabetes
00:35:16
Speaker
and help in terms of just helping the glucose be absorbed better and utilized better, that's a great way of doing things. Once you start getting past 24 hours and getting up into 36 hours, you actually start to get even greater health benefits. You start breaking down proteins in the body that aren't really necessarily top quality. And it's a process that's called autophagy.
00:35:44
Speaker
And so when you start breaking down those kind of the bad debris and the bad cells, the cells that aren't really effective, you can actually start getting a reversal in terms of different types of diseases and cancer prevention. So you're looking at cancer prevention, you're looking at anti-aging, you're looking at a lot of accelerated health parameters. And what we actually find, you know, going even above and beyond the 36 hours into like 48 hours of like not having
00:36:12
Speaker
any food or maybe doing just juices or bone broths or water. When you're doing it at that phase and at that level, you'll actually start breaking down proteins in the brain that can turn into Alzheimer's. So there's different types of proteins. We call them tau proteins that are associated with the development of Alzheimer's. So you can see those proteins being broken down. So you can reverse
00:36:37
Speaker
senile dementia, you can help in terms of preventing Alzheimer's through regular fasting that way. Once you start getting beyond 72 hours of fasting, so some people decide to do something like a juice fast for a longer period of time. Some of them do it for like seven days. Some people do even longer.
00:36:56
Speaker
Once you do that, you get a decrease in inflammation, but you also get an activation of your stem cells. So the stem cells, yeah, a lot of people who are talking about anti-aging and preventing disease and reversing disease, we're looking at the stem cells. And so you can actually help in terms of regenerating your own stem cells just by fasting for longer than 72 hours. Really? So I could
00:37:23
Speaker
put together a little side hustle and start selling some stem cells on the side? Yeah, yeah. Get them out of your bone marrow. Go right ahead. Yeah, fantastic. This is great. So which fasting method would be best for women then if they struggle with some of these fasting issues? Which one is the best for women? In your opinion, obviously.
00:37:42
Speaker
Well, for most women right now, I think in general with our society, both men and women, we're on the go all the time. And so because we lead a lifestyle where we're go, go, go, push, push, push, do this, do that, and we're not resting, we have a higher amount of cortisol. We're all under an intense amount of stress.
00:38:01
Speaker
And so because of that, for women, when they're under that amount of stress, it's going to throw off their hormone balance. So I would say for most women, I wouldn't go right to something that was intense with fasting. I would do a modified version of it.
00:38:18
Speaker
And so I might not even start off just like I did with you. We started off with not even doing fasting at all, and we brought the hormones into balance. We brought the body into balance. We started with the healing phase first. Now that you've gotten that healing phase piece, now we can go into fasting. And so for you, we could do intermittent fasting, but I think like a five to two would work much better for your system. And so I think- Five to two sounded good. I like that two days a month.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yeah. The reboot. Yeah, a reboot. That sounds great. I'd like to, because I basically did close to that. I think it was certainly 36 hours. Yeah. Of just drinking peglight and Gatorade. I had a bite of Jell-O, a couple of bites of Jell-O, because that's what they recommended. And also I was like, haha, I get to have some sugar on the Doc's watch.
00:39:07
Speaker
Sugar and artificial color. Great. Oh, yeah. Two things that you wouldn't normally offer. Oh, yeah. I wanted the Kool-Aid guy to break through the wall right now. That set me up. Did somebody say Jello? Yeah. So if I were to do this, so the five day two, the five two, first of all, that OMAD thing would make me very mad.
00:39:34
Speaker
Yeah. One meal a day. Forget that one. Yeah. I'm not doing that. Doesn't work for me either. I have no interest in that. But the five day, two day, this, you would do this every week.
00:39:45
Speaker
You could, yeah. If you're doing the five and two, you could do that every week. Now, for some people, that doesn't work for their lifestyle. So I should just say, let's do the reboot. Let's start with that. It's a gentle way to ease you in. So two days out of every month, that's what you do. But you're saying 72 hours to get to the stem cells. Yeah. So what would something like that look like every two months? You would do, would you do a double up? How do you get to that 72?
00:40:10
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I would start using you as an example. We started out first by saying, listen, fasting is not going to be a therapeutic tool for you at this moment in time. What we're going to do first is we're going to heal up your body and get the organ systems working well, get the hormones back into balance, decrease some of the stress hormones now that we've got there. Now we can go into fasting.
00:40:33
Speaker
two days out of the week would be amazing. And if that's not possible for your life, because you travel, um, you've, you know, you're going to be on the road. You have to be performing. Enjoy eating. Exactly. It's not really going to work for you. Yes. That yeah, do not drink alcohol while you're fasting. Please ladies and gentlemen. It's a liquid. It's a liquid. I know.
00:40:54
Speaker
I know. That's why I'm warning you. Do not do it. Okay. After, here's what happens when you're fasting. I could easily do two days. It's liquid. It's fine. I know. But the liver will kind of shut down a little bit after about 48 hours without any type of protein. So your liver metabolism shuts down and that's not good when you're drinking. You're going to get drunk so easily. You get really sick and then you want to crave foods. It's not pretty. Don't do it.
00:41:22
Speaker
Not, not advisable. Very good. So, okay. So for the fasting, we won't drink at all. That's right. Okay. Suddenly you're not as interested in the fasting. No, it's fine. I'm still interested. I hear, I knew, listen, everything you say leads to not drinking. So I've picked up the pattern here. It doesn't always feel great to feel great. You know what helps with that? A drink.
00:41:48
Speaker
Instantly feeling great. Yeah. So anyway, what can you do on the two days? If you did a five and two, the five days you would eat as I do now or carte blanche, you know, haven't had it. And then the next, so for those two days, you would have chicken broth or bone broth. Like, is this a liquid fast or a straight water only?
00:42:09
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depends on how you want to do it. So for a lot of people, they do water only, or they'll maybe do a little bit of tea or coffee. For me, what I recommend is really trying to use it as a time for healing and re-energizing the cells. So I'll do some greens juices and bone broth, and then maybe like a little bit of lemon juice and water, that kind of thing. So keeping it very, very simple. I may do juices, yeah.
00:42:36
Speaker
Depending on the juices, meaning what, like blended spinach and kale kind of thing. Well, if you blend spinach and kale and drink it that way, that's a smoothie and juice, you have to take out the fiber. So if you were in an example of your juice that you would drink on a fast.
00:42:52
Speaker
One of my favorites is cucumber, celery, lemon, and ginger, and just put those through a juicer or put them in a blender and then strain it so you don't have any of the fiber. You don't want any of the fiber on a juice cleanse because you want to shut down the intestinal tract.
00:43:07
Speaker
Right. You want to rest it. So yeah, so
Fasting Tips and Sugar Avoidance
00:43:10
Speaker
smoothie doesn't cut. It has to be a juice, has to be strained. And you can get some of those juices at some health stores, right? I'd be really careful about those because every time I look at them, I see a ton of sugar in them. And this is where, this is my big frustration. Here we go, here she goes. Getting on the soapbox. Yeah. What about peanuts? Could I have peanuts on my fast dog? Yes. What if I just had a scoop of peanut butter? Yeah. Wouldn't that be good for me? It's got protein in it, did you know?
00:43:40
Speaker
You just love getting me riled up. I love it. If this is your first episode listener, you really should go back to, I think, chapter two? Yeah, chapter two. Yeah, I know. I keep saying episodes instead of chapter. Big peanut. Whatever. Big peanut. Yeah, Doc hates big peanut.
00:43:54
Speaker
They're poisoning you. They are. And even the juice people are poisoning you now with their sugar. They are. So you would want to avoid sugar on this fast or you would want to take sugar because for the colonoscopy they were saying Jello and Gatorade. They highly recommended Jello and Gatorade, not red.
00:44:14
Speaker
Okay. Have you ever seen Gatorade, the color of it? Yes. Have you seen anything in nature that looks like it? What part of nature looks that color? Have you seen the Gatorade fits, the new Gatorade fits? Because they are clear. Okay. At least that's better. Yes, it is. Yeah. I believe so. Yes. And I would like to drink them. That's why I'm saying it. We'll go through the ingredients together. What about Gatorade zero? It doesn't have any sugar.
00:44:40
Speaker
I'd have to look at the ingredients and you'd have to say, okay, if it's zero- Ooh, do we have another mustard moment coming? Let's pull up the ingredients. Let's do it together and say, okay, this is what you look for because you want to look for sugar, but you want to look for artificial sweetener for a lot of companies. If they're not using a sugar, they're using an artificial sweetener and that's even worse for the gut microbiome. That's even worse than sugar. Well, we can talk about that more next week for now because we'll figure out a fasting. It sounds like I'm going to do a fast between now and
00:45:11
Speaker
uh, the 14th of July. We got two months. And, uh, so I would probably try the two day once a month thing, not the five and two. I don't want to weekly fast. Yeah. I don't think you're ready. I think we have to build your fasting muscle baby steps. I'm still a Padawan here. Yes. Yeah. And I would recommend that for people like ease yourself into it. So once you've done a couple of those two day in a row fast,
00:45:35
Speaker
Then you can say, okay, I feel like my body is ready to go longer. And then you can start introducing it in longer amounts and start getting to the 72 or beyond. You could do like a full week of a juice fast. You could do, you can start doing that like once a quarter. So, but the 36 hour is the main goal, right? Because now walk me through that again. What's the magic that happens inside you at 36 hours?
00:45:59
Speaker
Well, at 36 hours, you're starting to break down some of the tau proteins. The proteins in the head? The brain proteins? The bad brain proteins. Not the good brain proteins. We get to keep those, right? Yeah, exactly. So all the bad jokes and the puns are going to go away? That's right. I wouldn't count on it for us. How will fasting impact your bowel movements, doc?
00:46:21
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Well, thank you for asking because they will. I knew you wanted to circle back to it. Well, at the end of the day, the bottom line is- You aren't ready to flush that subject.
00:46:40
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Oh, this conversation degrades so fast. A blank compost. Now then, so yes. You're right. You want the bowels, you want the, you want to rest the digestive system, so the bowels will shut down.
00:46:55
Speaker
So the, so you'd go for a month, you'd be living your life and then you go, okay, for the next two days, I'm not going to eat. Now that's one, that's one of the ones where you would just have the water or that's again, where you'd have your bone broth and you're fine with that. So why doesn't bone broth count? It's got animal bit in it.
00:47:14
Speaker
Um, because you want to have everything as clear as possible. So just like a colonoscopy, you know, they want clear broth so that they can, uh, there's nothing that's going to, but if I'm drinking broth, I'm saying instead of water, won't my body go, Hey, this is like food because it's coming from, you know, an animal product of some sort. Why would a broth be okay?
00:47:35
Speaker
because there's not a lot of calories in it. So it's not about, you really don't want any type of fiber. So it doesn't have any type of fiber. It's a clear liquid. It's going to go through your digestive system. It has a lot of wonderful collagen in it. So it's going to help in terms of healing and repairing the intestinal tract. And it doesn't give you enough calories to really throw you out of a fasting state for very long. You'll go right back into it.
00:48:00
Speaker
So it's the same thing when people do a ketogenic way of eating, which the gentleman Dave, which he recommends, I was going to say it. When he recommends that way of eating, he has a bulletproof coffee.
00:48:21
Speaker
And in it, he puts some really healthy fats. Butter, I believe, right? Yes. Which I'm not allowed. That's true. And also a type of medium chain triglyceride from coconuts. And so he calls it brain octane. He makes his own version. I could be putting coconut oil in it. Well, I'm not allowed to have coffee. Well, MCT, MCT oil, which is the MCT stands for medium chain triglyceride. And it is very specific.
00:48:47
Speaker
oil, a specific type of fat that comes from coconut oil. And it's smaller chains, so it bypasses, it just goes right through your body. It just bypasses a lot of the digestive system, goes right through the liver, easy to metabolize, and very healthy and healing for your body, but helps in terms of what we call ketone production, which can help with brain performance. But because it's a fat, it keeps you in a fasted state.
00:49:13
Speaker
Why haven't I been having any MCT oil? That sounds like it's good. It makes you think good. It can. And it goes, me like think good. Think good make Dave happy. So why haven't you, me want MCT now. Do you put it on a salad? What do you do with this MCT oil? Well, people use it in bulletproof coffee. Well, why haven't I had any?
00:49:43
Speaker
Well, first of all, we take and you have coffee. Second of all, we're not using intermittent fasting for you right now. We don't have you on a ketogenic way of eating. Couldn't I just take it every day to make my brain function improve?
00:49:54
Speaker
Well, we could, but that was not our focus for healing. You're trying to keep me dumb on you. You're pretty. Oh, thanks. Okay. What are we talking about? Okay. I like Skittles.
00:50:22
Speaker
So, in a nutshell then, because I'm losing the plot here. Yeah, very fast. That is fine. Yeah. So, what were you saying? Before you're pretty. Yeah. No, you're saying your favorite boy drinks his butterproof coffee. His bulletproof coffee. Bulletproof, yes. Because he calls it the bulletproof executive.
00:50:49
Speaker
Yes. He's using the MCT oil very therapeutically. It has some fat in it, so you're having fuel, but you're staying in a fasted state because you don't get any type of effect on glucose and you don't get any type of stimulation of insulin. Technically, you're still in a fasted state even though you have some food.
00:51:10
Speaker
there are things like that that you can use. Now, I don't recommend that while you're doing any type of fast, unless you're doing just an 18.6 and you're very specifically utilizing that for... And for that, somebody would eat from noon till 6 p.m. or 2 to 8 p.m., I guess, and then just go right through sleep in the whole day and not eat, et cetera, et cetera. That's your 18.6. Has anyone done a 12 and 12? Would that have any value?
00:51:36
Speaker
Uh, some people do. Yeah. And that does still have value to rest the digestive system for 12 hours. That's what people should be doing for, uh, as a minimum, resting the digestive system for 12 hours. Okay. So there you go. There's a tip for people out there. You could do the easy one, which is the 12 12. Start with that and then work your way up. Yeah. I like to do the 20 and four where I eat for 24 hours and then try to get four hours sleep.
00:52:03
Speaker
and get right back at it. And that explains the lifestyle. That explains how we got this show started. Exactly. Because my way of living was not correct about that or optimal at a minimum. It was an optimal. It was a lot of fun.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yes. It really was. So I will ask you to design a fast for me. Absolutely. Is this a thing? It is. Where you figure out what I can, because they're your rules. My buddy rules, right? Right. So I would hereby accept your proposal of a two-day fast Reno. Great. I don't know when. Start of the month, when do you do one? Like June? It's May 10 now. June 1st is my sister's birthday.
00:52:46
Speaker
Yeah. So you do not want to be fasting on a birthday party. She's in Vancouver. It's fine. Oh, okay. But I'm just saying as a date to remember, she'd probably love to know I'm suffering a little bit on a birthday date. There's your presence to her right there. As the big brother, she'd be like, yeah. He'd be like, that's right. And then she could send me videos of her eating and drinking and enjoying everything. And having cake. Yeah. Well, when, when would you suggest, given that I've just had this colonoscopy fast, when would you suggest we have a fast?
00:53:16
Speaker
Yeah. I think, you know, June 1st would be a perfect time to do that. And then after the fast, you immediately eat garbage, right? Yes. Thank you so much for... Exactly. Because you go, now that I'm clean, I can have a burger and fries.
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, because that'll feel good on the digestive system. No. Your body will hate you. You're saying no, aren't you? I am, yep. So here's what happens, because there's another type of fasting that I kind of mentioned. Wait, two-part question. Okay. Do you have a cheat day before the fast knowing you're about to flush? No. But you didn't even finish. Excuse me. I already heard, already anticipated the question. Withdrawn. What's the answer? Withdrawn.
00:53:58
Speaker
Objection, Your Honor. She's not letting me finish my question. No. Permission to treat the witnesses hostile. No.
00:54:06
Speaker
This is ridiculous. When can I eat the crap? Nope. Shit. What this whole episode's about. It's coming full circle. So I can't eat shitty even though I'm about to stop eating. Yes. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Especially because you're about to stop. I would think going into a fast, that'd be a great time to get some potato chips because you're about to flush everything out. Why not? Worst time to do it.
00:54:31
Speaker
Why? So typically what we say with a fast is whatever amount of time you're going to fast for, you should take half that time to work in it and half the time to work out of it. So what do I mean by that? So if you're doing a longer fast, like if you're doing three days, if you're doing seven days, you want to gently ease into it and then gently ease out of it. If you load your stomach up with garbage,
00:54:53
Speaker
Right afterwards or you gorge or overeat you run the risk of damaging your intestinal tract and here's what happens There's a type of fasting that is been called dry fasting or black fasting and it's basically what happens during Ramadan So you don't eat anything from sunup to sundown. So that's a type of fasting But when you're in Ramadan, you don't even you don't eat anything you don't drink anything. So it's nothing. There's no water There's no food. There's no nothing. So when you're doing a fast like that
00:55:23
Speaker
what can happen. And I've talked to some doctors from the Middle East and they say, if you do it right, studies actually show that that is the healthiest form of fasting. That was the one that has the greatest health benefits in studies. And yet at the same time, a lot of the doctors that I talked to in the Middle East, they're like, you should see the emergency rooms during Ramadan because so many people will gorge themselves right after and they do a lot of damage. So you don't want to do damage to your system.
00:55:53
Speaker
If you eat something awful before you go into a fast, thinking, I'm going into a fast anyway, it's going to hurt. Your body is actually going to want more food. But if you slowly start to decrease the amount of food that you're having and eating really clean beforehand, when you cut the calories, when you go into that fasted state,
00:56:13
Speaker
your body's more used to it. It's nice and gentle. We always want to be gentle to the body. No forcing, no crunching, just gentle, gentle, gentle. And then we ease out of it and then you get the greatest benefits.
00:56:25
Speaker
Okay. Uh, so yes, just real quick, then recap those types of fasting. There was black or dry. Is that the same thing? Yeah. Yeah. That's the same thing. And then you rattled off a list earlier in the show. There was, have we covered them all? Intermittent fasting doing 18, six is popular. That's the intermittent. Yeah. Yep. Oh man. Which we can also do 12 and 12. You can do 12 and 12, or you can do some variation.
00:56:47
Speaker
Oh, mad. One meal a day. So you're fasting for 23 hours on that one? Is that a one in 23? That's actually 24. How big is this meal? Stop eating at dinner.
00:57:02
Speaker
And then you'd wait all day. You'd have one, the one meal would be dinner. That's when you could, but I'd actually recommend going to the next morning, like skipping like a full day of food. So you actually eat breakfast. So you have your dinner, then you have a whole day without food and then breakfast the next morning is when you start. Oh, okay. I would recommend that. That's it. But if you're eating one meal a day, I'm saying that person would just eat that one meal at lunch.
00:57:24
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It depends. From lunch to lunch to lunch. How do OMAD people do it? They wander through the desert. For a decent meal.
00:57:37
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carry them through another 24 hours. Yeah, exactly. So if you're doing that one meal a day. Which I'm not. Yeah. We've established that. I don't even want to know people who are. Yeah. There are people out there. And whether they choose breakfast, lunch, or dinner depends on their body and what they have experienced. So a lot of people that I know they experiment with, does this work better to have it just at lunch? Or does it work better for me to have it at dinner? Or if I'm working out, I just want to do it right after my exercise.
00:58:05
Speaker
So then there are other types of fasting that are out there too. We talked about the five and two, and then there's juice fasting, where you can actually do fasting for a lot of different days. So we, we will try over the course of this, we will try the one fast for sure. And then the reboot, the reboot. I love that. I just liked the title of that too. The reboot. I love this Dave 2.0.
00:58:29
Speaker
First we healed him. Now we're going to make him stronger. Exactly. The reboot. Yeah, that is great for season two. There we go. Dr. Val. Reboots Dave. The reboot's Dave.
00:58:45
Speaker
Let's turn him off, turn him back on. Dr. Val can no longer stop Dave. Move aside. I created a monster. No. Step aside your AI overlords. Yeah. We got the new guy. I'm going to be doing parkour on my way to my class. Summer salts down some stairs or whatever. Just cause I'm so happy to run and jump. Um,
00:59:14
Speaker
Uh, okay. So, uh, that's what we'll do then. We'll do that fast. We'll do the two day. And then depending on how that goes, I assume I'll feel amazing because everything you've done has helped. Uh, and so then I would try a different one. We can try a different one going forward so that people out there don't have to necessarily do all this stuff themselves.
00:59:33
Speaker
We can shortcut them. Yes. But in the meantime, remember, don't do this at home. And don't do this alone, right? We're offering you no advice. None of us are telling you what to do. But we do want you to chronicle your experiences. Yeah, but don't go on the internet. Dr. Val doesn't like when you look into things. I don't mind it. Remember last week, I told people to check something out and you were like, no, don't.
01:00:03
Speaker
It's something I don't want you to check it out. I'm just not advocating. The carnivore died, wasn't it? It was. Yeah. And I was like, you can check it out. And you're like, holy shit. And do you know what? A lot of people who do carnivore find it really easy to do the one meal a day. There you go. Because when you're doing carnivore, your satiety kind of shuts off. Your who? Your hunger, your appetite just shuts off. What'd you call it? Your satiety? Satiety. Yeah. Yeah. My satiary? Your satiary, yes.
01:00:29
Speaker
That increases. We'll say it that way. So you just don't feel as hungry. So it's a lot easier for those people to just do one meal a day. Okay. Well, if you've got a way of eating that works for you and you want to share it, please reach us on Instagram at Dr. Val Saves Dave.
01:00:50
Speaker
If you'd like to follow our journey, you can do that there as well. I'll post some pics or videos or something to talk about this fast and how I'm feeling, but overall, I feel so much better than I did six months ago. It's ridiculous.
01:01:05
Speaker
Well, thank you. I'm pretty, is that what you're saying? You're pretty. Oh, not kind. Well, I got no more poop jokes, so I guess we can put a plug in this episode. Oh, you went there. I guess we can back it up now. I'm so sorry. Hey, have a great bidet, everybody.
01:01:34
Speaker
I hope I don't see you next week.