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Ford v Ferrari (2019)
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I'm 5 years late to this review but better late than never right? Ford v Ferrari is now available on Netlix, so Reid joins me on our first watch to discuss the incredible story of Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles.
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00:00:00
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So do you ever have this moment where you see a trailer for a movie and you're excited? You're like, I definitely have to see this. Comes out in theaters. Tommy doesn't work out. You see it pop up on streaming. Oh, yeah, I'll definitely check this out. Hey, we should have a movie night. Hey, I'm going to watch this tonight.
00:00:15
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Something else comes up. Play video games instead. You go out instead. you rewatch a TV show for a million times instead. And then years and years and years for the case scenario, seven years go by. You still haven't seen this movie.
00:00:29
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Well, let's talk about one of them. Welcome to Zuz Views.
00:00:39
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what's up everybody? I am Zuhair Ali. This is Zuz Views. as you said in the opener, or as I said in the opener, There's a lot of movies that I've been procrastinating on and it's still slow season for business for me. So while I actually have been a lot more productive than i typically would be, it's still a good time to catch up on shows and movies and things of that sort.
00:01:00
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And i was talking to Reed from the three tuned to three network about how there's certain actors that pop up and you see that person's face and you're just like, I don't care what this is about. I'm just going to hit play. We'll find out later.
00:01:16
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that was recently this Netflix show, His and Hers. And I'm gonna do another episode talking about that because that was a great six episode miniseries. But it was the fact that I saw Jon Bernthal and I was like, I don't care what this is about.
00:01:30
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I got time to kill. Let's just hit this. Let's hit the show and we'll figure out what we're getting into later. So as soon as I finished that show, Netflix is like, hey, here's a new movie that was added. Ford versus Ferrari 2019. What's the part of the trailer that it shows me? Jon Bernthal. So I'm just like, cool. It's already fresh in my head. i already said that I'm going watch stuff just because he's in it.
00:01:52
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They clearly heard me. I guess there's algorithms for Netflix now too on eavesdropping. So they put a part of the trailer that had Jon Bernthal. And that made me just start watching it. But Ford vs. Ferrari is definitely one of those movies that I've been wanting to watch for a while. So sorry that it's taken me six years to do it. But it's something else to talk about on this brand new show. I did not expect the first episode outside of my intro to be about a movie from 2019. But hey, that was why I started this. To do whatever I wanted, whenever the hell I wanted. So we're talking about Ford vs. Ferrari.
00:02:28
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And i am going to have a guest talking more... with me but i just wanted to give some brief initial thoughts because how long do these episodes and these shows really need to be i don't think i need a whole hour just diving into the intricacies of each film but i do enjoy talking about it and i do want to get conversation started so let's start hitting on that And I do want to say that two movies that I did watch in theaters as they came out more recently that I absolutely love was Gran Turismo from 2023 from enjoyed those movies, like, don't want to say that.
00:03:03
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and while i enjoyed those movies like i don't want to say that I enjoy, I like cars. I'm into cars in the most average way. I will geek out a little bit if I go to a car show, but I'm not going to know exactly what I'm looking at. It's like, ooh, GT are pretty. I guess from a racing perspective, that is a sports thing. So I do like sports things where people are hyping each other up and... working on their craft and trying to win and overcoming odds things of that nature are just it's hard not to root for it's hard not to get into and racing just seems to be a really cool form factor for that one so really like those two movies and when i saw that ford versus ferrari was up i had those to compare to because seen f1 probably four if not five times by now it's just so great and so well done
00:03:53
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And I think this movie really held up with that. There is purpose. There is ambition. There is drive. There are circumstances that you have to work towards and get over. And all of that stuff is really cool. And also, sorry, I'm rambling and derailing from thoughts because...
00:04:08
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God forbid, actually have foreign thoughts on this. One of my favorite things about school was history. And it was great when I had teachers who were good at telling it. It's a story, right?
00:04:21
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And the fascination of of history is that it's storytelling and it's things that have happened. So there's a relatability people that are involved in the circumstances that take place. So as someone who loves movies, I love movies that are based off history because it's just natural storytelling. You take someone's experience that really stuck with you and put it into a medium that, oh sure, it dramatizes it, but you still get that genuine feel of whether it be relatability, whether it be inspiration, whether it be comfort.
00:04:56
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Using history as scripts for good filmmaking, is something I'm always going to be a fan of. So while things like F1 is great, having this actual connection of people who are here going through this in Ford versus Ferrari is what my added appeal is to that, if that makes sense. So the competitive spirit of just being so into your craft to want to win, to want to prevail, to want to be the best. It's cool. It's admirable.
00:05:23
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And while the racing sequences obviously are just so much fun to watch, my favorite scenes in the movie had nothing to do with that. It actually... i mentioned how athletes have their craft, and it's the craft that I am obsessed with. It's the love and obsession with the details.
00:05:43
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And there was one scene in particular... That I just could not get out of my head because it was just so beautifully done. And it was when Shelby tells Ken that he can't do this first race, right? and Ken comes in. He's talking about the distance between the bottom of the car to the ground and how that causes drag. So adding this wedge to help the flow and this and that. And in that point, he gets cut off to say they don't think that you're good for PR. They want to go with these guys. I'm really sorry. I'm still going to work on the car, but you're not going to be racing. And he's still locked into what he's trying to do for this car. Right. Because despite him being excluded from being a part of what he signed on for, It's still a team win, right? And it's still this drive to create something better, to put his love for the craft into something better. So the following sequence is him listening on the radio for the race, and he's just working on the car. He's breaking down what could be working, what's not working.
00:06:52
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He's listening to the cues of what's going on with the racers to be able to adjust off of that. And that love and obsession for it was by far my favorite scene out of the movie. It was so well done. Him just grinding away, grinding away. Shout out to his wife in the movie. Everyone deserves to have a partner like that in life. Just coming with the picnic basket and checking on him and supporting on him. just I can only have that one day. But it was so beautifully done. and then the following scene, just from a filmmaking perspective, was really cool. was when Shelby went in to go see Ford. And he was like, tell me why I shouldn't let you right now.
00:07:26
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But the way that he's invited into the room and is just looking out the window and trying to have this power move, not making eye contact. All these other executives are around the corner just watching.
00:07:36
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And he's just standing and sitting on the couch and looking directly at him. But Henry Ford is just locked in looking out the window. You don't deserve my eye contact type of thing. So when he breaks down, hey, we have Ferrari scared. We have him right where we want him. This is the progress that we're making. This is where we're at. So to be able to have that confidence and dialogue of their craft and of their objective and of their goal to make him actually turn around and be like, I've earned the respect of my eye contact.
00:08:01
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And all of that was just really cool, really well done. Such a fun movie. Was not, well, I was not ready for the end. i did not know the history of it. And I'm one that if a movie is made off of a comic book or a book or history or this and that, I still just go in knowing what I know.
00:08:20
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And at this point, I just know that there's a Ford car called Shelby. I did not know what the history of all that was. So did not know about Ken and, a tragic accident and not being able to race again and the way that he was fucked over and incredible storytelling with a great pace and wonderful action and i am a big fan of that sad I waited six seven years whatever it was to watch it but really glad I did thanks Netflix for putting it on so that I could enjoy it And Reed from 323 with Reed Murphy is watching it as we speak for the first time.
00:08:53
Speaker
So I think I said everything I needed to say, which cool. 10 minutes. How often do you guys listen to 10 minute podcasts? Well, was going have a further conversation, but like if I were to cut it off right here, how often do you guys have 10 minute conversations or 10 minute podcasts? Let me know.
00:09:07
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I'm curious. What are the shows I should do? 10 minute episodes. Should I just make 10 minute episodes and not worry about having a guest after the fact? But have you guys seen Ford versus Ferrari? Have you even thought about it in the last six years?
00:09:19
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What are some movies that you've thought about that have been sitting on the watch list or popping up on the recommended that you're like, oh, you need to check this out? Or what do you have on like theater watches right now? i was trying to go through mine the other day because I'm so excited for Odyssey.
00:09:33
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John Perthol, Matt Damon. Noticing a trend here. I really to hear from guys really want to know what movies you're excited about, what movies you haven't thought about. Are you going to watch this movie just because I'm talking about it now? If so, I'm sorry for the spoilers. Thank you for listening just because it's me.
00:09:49
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But I'm going to be right back and I will be back with Reed Murphy.
00:09:57
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All right. So for those of you who watched the video, we got the outfit change done. That was totally intended. And as promised, Reed is here joining us. What's up, bud? Hi, buddy. It's so good to be here. Welcome to being the first guest, the first view for zoo on zoo's views.
00:10:13
Speaker
That's true. What an honor on my end to get to be the first guest here. I love it. pushed me a lot to do this, so it was only right. And as the intention of the show was, it was supposed to be random.
00:10:24
Speaker
It was supposed to be shit that I'm watching. was supposed to be people that I like being with. and all of a sudden, this movie popped up on Netflix. And I was talking to you and Luis about it. And i misunderstood in thinking that you had seen it before because we were talking about movies we had seen before.
00:10:40
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So my dumb ass was texting you about scenes that I liked. And you not correcting me, being the sweetheart that you are. Oh, are you watching this movie? It's just the one we were talking about yesterday. just typing these scenes as I'm going around, telling you what I think about them.
00:10:57
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My bad. Oh, no, it's all good. it It made it more enjoyable when I got to that scene. Because then I was waiting for it to pop up. i was like, what the hell is he talking about? And then it happened. I was like, oh.
00:11:08
Speaker
Did I say anything about the ending to you? No. Good. I wish you had. well I guess we'll get to that. This isn't going in any particular order. It's where literally is I gave a little 10 minute what I thought about it real quick. But guess if you want to do the same, like what do you think of this movie? What got you to watch it?
00:11:26
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It's weird. It's a movie like any sports. I'm a sucker for sports biopics. I'm not particularly crazy about racing movies or racing in general. I've gotten into that one a little bit.
00:11:38
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and i'm not virginia enough i'm not fredericksburg enough to really enjoy nascar but i can it's a good movie and i love christian bale love matt damon i remember when this movie came out i'm like oh i can't wait for it i'm gonna see it immediately i never did it's been five years i think something close to that and I've just put it off like we were talking about movies that you procrastinate on and you got me to finally budge.
00:12:07
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And I really enjoyed it. I love the heart of it. It was you know review I can give is it's a two and a half hour movie. And I sat all the way through it.
00:12:18
Speaker
Wow. I didn't take breaks. yeah I watched The Dark Knight for a week last, like a couple months ago. Just broke it up in days. your first watch? No, but just like on like a lot of rewatches and stuff, I'm breaking movies up into bits and pieces. Yeah.
00:12:33
Speaker
First was Ferrari. Kept me hooked all the way through. I was really enjoying the story. Matt Damon's accent didn't annoy me like I thought it might. He he kills it. ah But Christian Bale was like really part of the movie. I'll i'll stick around for anything Christian Bale does.
00:12:47
Speaker
and uh you know his character ken miles was just really approachable really uh relatable and somebody that you just want to root for and get him to succeed his uh you know his presence his energy just kept me going the entire time and yeah i don't know it just had like a lot of heart it had the heart of a you know a sports movie that doesn't it's not too serious it's got it knows it should be fun it knows it's gonna bring you in and you know uh you know rooting for these guys to win and You I'm really into it, even though i'm not a Ford guy, per se. But I was, you know, you're rooting for Ford in this movie.
00:13:21
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that I had such an interesting relationship with just kind of like how they were talking about Ford and stuff. Because there's a part of you that is like, and don't want to get into political stuff. But there's a part of you where it's like,
00:13:34
Speaker
You love your country, but you hate the state that it's in. And there was a lot of moments where it's like you hear Ford talk about like we need to push Ford and we need to be, you know, the top of this engineering and we need to have the fastest car. And it's like you miss like what you used to hear in history class about like being an innovative country and all these like technological advancements and how like the U.S. was in the forest of all that.
00:14:00
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But then like when you had the lines of Ferrari being like, oh, yeah, just like a shitty little factory out in Michigan. and this that It's like, oh, yeah, like there it's like the the conflict of like wanting to see that side of the United States. But then like the over manufactured, like get it just to get it out, you know, type of thing. Like what's profitable. Yeah.
00:14:20
Speaker
So it was just like you're like your patriotic side is just so torn between hearing both of those sides of it because both are so valid and both are so true. And you have these executives that are fucking things over and you have people like Shelby that just want to win and want to make the best car and drive you to be literally drive.
00:14:38
Speaker
pun no pun intended um to be like the best version of yourself and the one that the whole world is like looking towards and wanting to be known so it was just it's this crazy like tear between how you look at something that you're a part of while watching that movie yeah and i think you summed that up perfectly and and that's what the movie i think really succeeded in was finding that hard to root for because like we like you said, and and not to get political or anything, but when when the country is feeling a certain type of way, it's hard to, you know, get up for things like like we have the Winter Olympics coming up. Yeah, I things like that, the Summer Olympics, the World Cup when they happen.
00:15:20
Speaker
it's hard, like you want to root for your country, but then when things are going messy, and like even during this to Ford versus Ferrari, it's not anything that it was touched on, but you still had in the that era, of the 5060s, a lot of racial tension, a lot of political tension going on in the country at that time.
00:15:38
Speaker
ah you know we everybody I think tries to find reasons to get patriotic and to root for their country and to root for some success and when it comes to these corporations no I don't want to root for you don't want to root for the you know Henry Ford II or the the the Lees everything these executives who you know are only in it for the money. They don't really care about the win, but they'll sell you on the win because they can sell something else on top of that.
00:16:05
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You always find somebody like Ken Miles, like um Damon's character whose name that you just said, and it dropped she Shelby, like Carroll Shelby, and you know these people who are legitimately, genuinely passionate about what they're trying to do and passionate about trying to get the success for their country and you know making the movie such a heavy focus on those two guys and You know what what they mean to their sport, what the sport means to them, what it means to their families, why they're really doing it, why they really want to succeed, why they want for, you know, no matter what they might think about the executives on top or whatever's going on.
00:16:44
Speaker
They're doing it to get the win for, you know, the love of the game, for the love of the sport, for the love of what they're trying to do. Yeah, very, very beautiful sentiment just throughout all that movie. And I really want to know like how many other people who have seen this like agree with that thought or are like, you guys are idiots. like How did you see any of that in this? And I think one of the one of the biggest scenes that captured that is when Shelby basically kidnaps Ford. He's like, oh you want to see what the car is like? Get in the car. It's like, oh, I guess there is no reason for these guys to like be in cars like this, right?
00:17:17
Speaker
Like, there was a part where Ken at the beginning was shitting on the guy who came to a shop. He was just like, you shouldn't be driving a car like this. Like, you don't know how to drive a car like this. Like, it's it's going to be messed up because you don't drive it like it's a sports car.
00:17:29
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So Ford, I guess, has never experienced, like, a Ford racing car before. So for him to actually be in that and be like, oh, shit, like, this is what they're building towards. This is what it's like being like...
00:17:40
Speaker
He's so fixated on the logistics side and the executive side and the business side and what people think of him and look at him that it's like he never got to fully embrace creativity and the artistic side and...
00:17:54
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like the sportsmanship of it like sure he has it from like an owner perspective but actually be in the car and just break down crying the way that he does scaring the absolute shit out Shelby thinking that he broke him everything about that moment of like oh my god I wish my dad could have seen this that realization of what they were actually working towards and how much bigger it was than what he anticipated like I think that that one scene captured everything we just talked about I think that scene was beautifully perfect, like you said, because it it it just subverted expectations perfectly where I'm dying laughing at how like he's he just breaks down crying on that. And it's hilarious for a minute. But then like it actually like all of a sudden the same emotion that he's showing the same moment that's happening, it completely shifts even me. I got like not choked up. I got, you know, I was really felt it once he was talking about he wishes his dad could see.
00:18:48
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you know, what this is and all that. And yeah, they just, they, they did a wonderful job putting that movie together. James Mangold was really good director choice for that and just wrote it really well.
00:18:59
Speaker
And a surprising, surprising director for it. Having done Logan too. And yeah, it was, yeah. huh Yeah. Yeah. little, little comic book tie. Yeah. Disclaimer for those who didn't follow me at animation deliberation. I was very open about the fact that I'm so, so bad at keeping up with director names and actor names. Like I've never been fixated on like the behind the scenes part of it, which is really ironic considering I'm like, I mean, I'm a photographer. So I'm like partially in that industry.
00:19:32
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But like, i always just get fixated on the story. And unless the actor or the people around it are really, really good people that I just want to know more about. It's like, I try to keep their real lives out of my head, like as much as possible.
00:19:48
Speaker
So i I try not to go into movie thinking, oh, this is the guy from this. And this is the director from that. And this from this and that from that. And it's like, obviously they deserve all that credit and they should be recognized for what they do. It's just, I can't get myself to do that because I just want to be lost, like in storytelling, you know?
00:20:02
Speaker
That's a healthy way to do it, honestly, to to get, you know, purely lost in a movie, because I'll have plenty of times Matt Damon, for instance, which is why his performance in this really worked for me. He is somebody that, you know, I've watched in a lot of stuff. I see him in a lot of interviews and I follow him and follow his career. And a lot of times I'm just seeing i was like, oh, that's Matt Damon.
00:20:23
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Yeah. Or like another actor. I'll be like, oh, that's that actor just playing that actor. everything they're not doing anything special so yeah that's a that's a good way to go about it sometimes i would think yeah i am excited to see these two in odyssey though john bernthal and matt damon oh that's right that's right we didn't even talk about yeah about yeah john bernthal being in this too that was a nice surprise for me yeah i love you i i love him in any i'll watch i'll watch christian bale and anything he's in i'll watch john bernthal and anything he's in i love him on the bear
00:20:55
Speaker
I love him um and punish as Punisher. was so excited when I saw him on the bear. Oh, it was so cool. It was so good to see him on there. And then I was so glad they expanded his role.
00:21:06
Speaker
And he was great on The Walking Dead, too. And I just like I don't he's also got like we did this on the on 323. He was, I think, number one or number two on my, you know, top five heads of hair.
00:21:19
Speaker
in the, in just the world. Oh, was I there for that one? I don't think I was there for that one. I don't know if you were there for that one. I think that was, I think Scott was on that one, but he, yeah, he's got a top five head of hair for me. Nice. Just rolling through that hair. like that's good hair.
00:21:31
Speaker
That's Jon Bernthal hair. That's what I aspire to. Yeah. I also loved him in a fury. He was in Fury, too. Yeah. His role in Fury was what made me realize like what his range was as an actor. Yeah. So when he got cast as the Punisher and everyone was like, oh, Shane from Walking Dead. And I was like, no, it's the dude from Fury. Like, this going to be awesome.
00:21:53
Speaker
Wolf of Wall Street, too. haven't watched that in so long that maybe that's a timely rewatch instead of a timely things I need to see that I've been procrastinating.
00:22:05
Speaker
We'll just get on Quaaludes and watch that, too. Why not? Why not? It's not snowing again. We got time. Got time. it got snow. Got Quaaludes. We're going. It's about to shut down again. So I talked about a little bit, my little solo rant before you hopped on. But did you have a favorite scene or a favorite set of scenes in this movie?
00:22:24
Speaker
Hmm. I'm and maybe it's just. ah you know my own personal backstory and everything with you know my dad and all but any that's the scene where uh ken and his son are on the track at night and he's just kind of explaining to his son you know the whole thing and kind of relating it to life i love that i don't know why it just like it made me feel really good it made me kind of like miss that it made me miss that connection but also kind of You know, I'll see things in, you know, as I'm, you know, entering my 30s and, you know, getting, you know, the itch for fatherhood and all that and wanting kids and everything kind of seeing moments that I could kind of relate to things that I kind of want to hold on to and, you know, do a little bit myself. So that scene was ah really beautiful. But if close number two, if not the number one scene was the scene that you texted me about before I had watched the movie, which was the yard fight.
00:23:21
Speaker
because i didn't know what the hell was going to happen and that just turned into a straight brawl and then the wife just grabbing a chair and throwing it in the you know throwing it in the yard and sitting there coming over to offer them sodas he's like yeah i'll take one no no he won't he doesn't get one don't get one don't give one don't do it i was losing it with like how nice they were being to each other too it's like first he like tackles them instead of punching them and then he goes for the bread instead of like whatever was in his hands grabbing the shit He grabbed a can. I was like, oh shit. He was like, no. Like, I want to be the shit out of you. just don't want to hurt you. That's that's the beauty of guys.
00:23:56
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That's the beauty of guys. Like, that' sometimes that's all it takes. It's like, there's like a mountaining tension or something. Just got to beat the shit out of each other for like a minute. Like a solid minute. And then it's good for rest of your life. it Was it New Girl? I'm trying to think what sitcom there was where it was a there was like a whole episode about like really? That's all guys have to do is just like beat up on each other a little bit and they're good. It's like, yeah, we're good. We're good. Yeah, you're good.
00:24:18
Speaker
I feel like that was almost definitely New Girl. I can just see that. I think it was one of the coach ones when he was there. Yeah. Any combination of the guys, I can see that happen. yeah That's always what I imagined. If you, me, and Scott had a you know ah place together, that's it would go.
00:24:34
Speaker
Yeah. It's either that or some type of very diverse full house. I'd give Scott a bald-headed noogie for sure. I could be a good Winnie the Bish. I could see it. Yeah. didn't he say I was Schmidt? think we've had this conversation before. I think I think he maybe had because I couldn't decide between Schmidt and Nick. And then he drafted me as Schmidt and then gave all the reasons. And I was like, damn, actually struggling to argue with that.
00:24:57
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Be a good Schmidt. I feel like internally I'm Nick. I think everybody internally has a little Nick. I can go with a little Winston just off to the side. It was like, hey, girl, what the thing do? You nailed the line. got that Winnie the bitch in you. Got that dog in I was talking about how one of my favorite scenes outside of the comedy of beating somebody with loaf bread was when... um God, I'm so bad at remembering names. When Ken got rejected when he was working on the ship. Working on the ship. Working on the car. They were like, yeah, they're gonna we're going to go with these other guys. And he's just listening to the radio and just kind of like working through all the stuff in his head.
00:25:37
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um For me, it was like... The person who is just so into their craft that we're like the obsession kicks in. And I think about that, like, a little bit with the photography side and a little bit on the martial arts side, too, because like now I've been doing martial arts consistently and long enough that it's like when I'm watching newer students or students have been developing after a little time, it's like you start to pay attention to things.
00:26:01
Speaker
when their feet don't move the slightest way. Like you hear about that in like football movies and shows and documentaries and stuff, or it's like, you know, the the coach can see it's like, Oh, you moved your pinky toe up, you know, wrong here. and you don't do this in this time. But it's like, but once you actually have that level of like dedication, you start to see it a little bit like, Oh, like that's what that level of coaching is like.
00:26:23
Speaker
So I think that's what made me appreciate that scene of him working on stuff and obsessing on stuff and just listening, just being able to listen in on a radio and be like, oh, I need to work on this. I need to change this. I need to adjust that. We need to build this custom forward. And I just I really love the beauty of like that being locked in on the artistic side of things. i don't know if you had any like anything to add.
00:26:46
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No, i I actually agree with that. And you can you can see it. And I think that's something maybe we relate to in the movie and you know really enjoy for ourselves as like you know you know people in our craft. and you know i When it comes to like the rejection part of it, like I've applied for just a shit ton of different jobs in media, and you know whether it's you know on different podcasts, networks, or radio jobs, television production jobs, all these things that in the craft that I really want to do and get rejected constantly over and over and over. doesn't even get looked at or anything. And it makes me want to quit this shit. And like, not even like, I like, why am I doing this?
00:27:24
Speaker
But then it comes to a moment. It'll hit a Thursday And I don't want to record, but then I hop on, you're there and Scott's there and Luis is there and we just, you know, start going on shit and it just hits naturally and it feels like a good time, feels like a good show. Yeah. Get into the editing and all that. I'm like, i was like, no, I love this.
00:27:43
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This is actually like what's, you know, getting me through every other stress in life. Mm hmm. Everything if I can do it professionally, that would be awesome. But like, in the meantime, I still love this. It's still healing for me.
00:27:55
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And that's what it felt like for you know, and that you know, I could relate to that in that moment watching the disappointment on his face as he's being told it like he came in so eager and excited about you know, this is what needs to be done with the car and everything.
00:28:08
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And he gets rejected, told he's not going to be able to do it. And just, you can watch it. You know, the acceptance hit his face and the sadness hit his face and everything. But the only, instead of melting down or blowing up or anything, it's just,
00:28:21
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you know, let's get back to this. This still needs to be done. He's still on a team. Yeah. I'm still here. Still got to get this done and everything. And I, I love that part. I love, you I just love the emotion in that it's such a relatable movie, even though it's a racing movie. Yeah.
00:28:35
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That's the beauty of like sports biopics to me. Like they're, whether you like the sport or not, whether you're into it, if it's a football movie, a baseball movie, a boxing movie like this, it's just the nature of sport.
00:28:48
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and the heart of it, the obsession, the passion. i think everybody can relate to what the people or the centerpiece of the, you know, of the of the movie is going through. What, even if they're not in sports, as long as you're, so you have a passion, you have something that you love.
00:29:04
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Like everybody can relate to that kind of determination and that obsession, the good obsession. In racing movies, my other two favorites being F1 and, Cars. Gran Turismo. Yeah.
00:29:16
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Yeah. I mean, the car's great. I think the biggest thing, think the predictability factor of watching a racing movie is like, okay, when's the accident going happen?
00:29:26
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And you always think it's going to be like during one of the races, right? So the fact that he finishes the race and the quote unquote accident at the moment was his decision making and actually like being a team player, like you said, at the end of the day, like he's not team. And for him to get like fucked over the way that he did,
00:29:46
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It was like, let's do it all three. Oh, because of this technicality, like you actually didn't win. So it's like, and, and then I'm thinking, it's like, well, least there wasn't like a traumatizing accident. And then I think that was like when I started zoning out just a little bit, because I was watching at home. Like I happened to pick up my phone and then I look up and it was like, the kid looking at the fire. I was like wait, what just happened? And the back was like, he fucking dies. Like the accident still up happening after he never got to race again. What? Yeah.
00:30:13
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it was that was not a it was a sobering ending to that movie yeah where just between between the the the tie which felt like a loss to me yeah and it was such a sweet moment but then that still comes out and then he has his hand on his back he's like we'll get the next race it's fine Yeah, then the accident happens, and then Shelby talking to the kid at the end. like i I was like, oh my god.
00:30:39
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like how did I was like, this movie has so much heart, and I'll still always think of it as a feel-good movie. But it's a heartbreaker at the end. A heartbreaker. Adventure for sure. Yeah.
00:30:55
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I need more racing movies, honestly. And f is the next one. I'm not going to wait five years to watch F1. Okay, so you haven't seen that one yet. have not seen that. My mission is to see it before the Oscars because on on the 323, me and Travis go heavy in on the Oscars every year. be doing our our pre and post show. I have a mission to watch all of the Best Picture nominees.
00:31:18
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F1 is nominated for Best Picture, so I'm going to get it. so ah Ford vs. Ferrari was also nominated for Best Picture. I don't know how I missed that that year. so So it's no guarantee, but I'm going to hold on and make sure that I get it in before March.
00:31:35
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It's not going to be like, I've done this with Elvis too, and it's a recurring joke with Travis. Every time you ask me about Elvis for like the last three years, I keep telling him I'm getting to it. Oh, so any of these movies that are about singers, I have not seen a single one yet. I've heard nothing but good things, but I haven't seen Bohemian Rhapsody. I haven't seen um Elvis. I haven't.
00:31:57
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I don't know if I'm going to see the Hugh Jackman one. I'm forgetting. Yeah. Oh, the song song sung blue? Sure. yes Yeah. Like they all have such interesting casts and they look pretty good and it looked fun. And I even said in my opener, it's like I loved history in school because the storytelling element of it.
00:32:16
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So I love movies that have something to do with history because there's this excitement and this engagement of how this actually happened. This is people that people knew. This is part of our history. And then for some reason, there's like this whole line of music. And I didn't grow up on like 70s, even 90s music because I grew up listening to Disney songs in Bollywood. Like my parents don't know half the stuff. right yeah So my connection to 80s music didn't come in until I started photographing weddings. And then I heard the same tracks at every dance floor.
00:32:48
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uh so like that that was such a recent thing to me that's like i didn't have that that connection no matter what generation you're a part of of like having that in a household in some manner or that being like the music that you were like force-fed for a long period of time but yeah it would be cool to just kind of like connect a little bit more to like what that timeline could have been like, guess.
00:33:10
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Maybe I'll set that up for you. Maybe I'll set you, because I could tell you maybe a hot take on like music biopics. If you've seen one, you've pretty much seen them all.
00:33:22
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That's right. It's just depending on the music at that point. But I can make you a playlist of like five essential music biopics to see. Even if don't know the artists, they're great stories with great music going on too.
00:33:34
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Bohemian Rhapsody is one that's like, it's fun, but it's like the problem with music biopics for me. They're heavily sanitton super sanitized. So like if you don't know anything about the artist, like you'll enjoy it and you'll you'll get some type of education. But yeah, if you know like a little deeper about like Freddie Mercury from Queen and like you know controversies he had, the stuff he was in, the darkness that he was in. They sanitized the hell out of it. Oh.
00:34:00
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And but you still get a good concert movie and it's still fun. It's what I'm worried about with the Michael Jackson movie coming out this summer. But I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan. I love his music.
00:34:12
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Trailers already got me locked in, even if it looks a little corny already. I'm still going to be there. I'm gonna be there like I'm at a concert. ah But it's it's been my trouble. I haven't seen Bob Dylan movie or the Bruce Springsteen movie or anything like that. But, you know, there there are some that subvert it, like Ray Charles. Jamie Foxx won an Oscar for that. probably the best Probably the best ah depiction of an artist I've ever seen where he just completely became Ray Charles.
00:34:40
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Elton John's movie, Taron Egerton from a Kingsman plays Elton John. Dude, he is fantastic in it. And the movie got like, it was like, it got the seal of approval from Elton John, but it dove into like his drug addictions, everything.
00:34:55
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And it played the movie off like a legit musical and just used his music to kind of like form what was going on in his life. It was so cool. Yeah. Yeah. All right. i'm looking forward to this list. Gotcha.
00:35:08
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Anything else on Ford versus Ferrari that you wanted to chat about? um Damn. I did have something and I lost it on there. I should have wrote it down on there, but there was some note from the movie.
00:35:21
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i I actually, it was weird. i I did enjoy it and I appreciate you for getting me to watch it because like you said about history, it was a story I had no idea about. And I just assumed, I was like, there's no way a Ford beat a Ferrari at any point.
00:35:36
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The fact that Ford tried to buy Ferrari, I was like, this is actually a thing. Like, could you imagine? that There's a multiverse where Ford Ferrari is an actual company. Yeah. And it was wild to watch Fiat just kind of like,
00:35:51
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jump behind it. And when that whole offer was happening, I was like trying to think to myself, i was like, wait, are Ferraris called Ford Ferraris? Like, yeah, i was thinking about ah but was just a really, it was a really good educational experience along with the, you know, the, the heart and the emotion of like, just a really good blockbuster. It had low key. Remember the Titans vibes to me in a racing way.
00:36:16
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And, you know, I'm a sucker for sports biopics. If a sports biopic has a A guy and his kid and his kids really like adorable and, you know, fits into the project Friday Night Lights.
00:36:28
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This money ball. Remember the Titans got me. So I enjoyed the hell out of it. So unfortunately, can't be a sequel or any form of that and everything. But i like I liked really learning about and appreciating Ken Miles. It's nice to get a story out there.
00:36:44
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and ah you know the legacy that it created along with Shelby, and learning about like the Shelby Ford. and every ever like just It made me go into a deep dive and learn more about what Shelby did post-Ford and the other stuff that he worked on.
00:36:59
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ah It was just a really good experience, a really fun time. I wish I had watched it five years ago, but I'm glad it's in my life now. I mean, hey, it it led to us having a very solid first non-intro episode to Zoo's Views. So it was it was meant to be. I absolutely love Zoo's Views. And I love the freedom of it that the second episode of the show can be about a movie that came out five years ago.
00:37:26
Speaker
I love that. And then the next show, who knows? Who knows what the episode could be? This whole list of things that I wanted to do, like um the Doomsday teasers and shrinking. And i finished watching Terminalist.
00:37:42
Speaker
Oh, I need to watch. dark Dark what? Shit, what was it called? Well, prequel of it. it was It came out late last year. And it it was really good. whole thing was like maybe six or eight episodes.
00:37:56
Speaker
Reduce or Reed on it. Solid series and I was like, oh, maybe this will be what I talk about. And then, yeah, no, I'm talking about a movie from six years ago. Ah, Dark Wolf. Dark Wolf. Yeah. Oh, Taylor Kitsch is on that. Riggins.
00:38:07
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Yeah. I think you'll enjoy that. I like like good action, but like military action movies like that. It's a good teaser for the rest of you's views and everything. Like those are types of things that, ah you know, might be coming up. I'm very excited to either talk about or hear about the Doomsday teasers and everything, your thoughts on it.
00:38:24
Speaker
I'm very excited to hear anything about shrinking. I just found out season three premiered. So I'm going to be getting on that like right after we finished recording. and That's what I'm going watch tonight. Any of your thoughts on it are going to be great.
00:38:37
Speaker
i I'm loving what you're doing here. I think people are very proud of you. I've been looking at all of the responses to the show and the excitement from all corners, whether it's from you know our corner or Stranded Panda Corner or just you know our personal lives of people coming to support you. It's really beautiful. And it should show you that your voice means a lot. What you're trying to do here is awesome.
00:39:01
Speaker
And means a great deal to, you know, all of us that want to express our views, our zoo's views. And um yeah, be proud of yourself. and in the first episode Come on, man. And all of all the second episode, get get your get your shit right, producer. Second episode. That was another one was episode zero. Oh, that's a prologue. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's right. I don't know what I'm doing.
00:39:24
Speaker
I'm just a guest. But yes, proud of you. thank you for Thank you for letting me be the first guest on here. It's an awesome it's an awesome view. Yeah. You want to want tell the people where they can find you or find us?
00:39:36
Speaker
Yeah, you can find us at 323READ at 323REID on all social media, the 323 Network on YouTube. It's a fun time. We'll be, you know, for all the people, whether whatever area you're coming from to listen to this show,
00:39:51
Speaker
We either talk about sports at a at a given time, or we talk about a lot of different entertainment, nerdy shit. We'll be going to Awesome Con, so we'll be doing a live... not Well, live for them there. You'll see it eventually. March 13th weekend? Yeah, the weekend of March 13th through the 15th.
00:40:09
Speaker
Walter E. Washington Convention Center in D.C. Biggest comic book convention in the D.C., Maryland area. It's awesome. and We do our live... late dirty family feud show there. So it's going to be a fun time. You can see a hundred. Some people.
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah. Come watch too. Just almost crazy to see. you can see all that kind of stuff. We got something for everybody. So yeah, come to 323 network and know watch more of me and zoo and our white friend, Scott and Luis and all the diversity.
00:40:40
Speaker
Always a good time. And I actually have an Instagram now. Thanks to Sarah day for scolding me for not having one and just making it. Zeus Views podcast on Instagram.
00:40:51
Speaker
This show is a video format on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube. Just really weird that actually have a YouTube channel now. But yeah, all the shows for all the places to see all these faces.
00:41:04
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So yeah, bud. Thanks for being here. For everybody else who ended up watching this movie. And because of us, that'd be great. We'd love to hear that. And ah until then, talk to you soon. Stay warm.
00:41:16
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Bye, folks. Stay safe.