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Star Wars Maul – Shadow Lord
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This series is easily the best animated series that Star Wars has every created. Join Hayley and I as we discuss all the reasons why. See more from Hayley on her podcast, Source Pages: A Reading Collective, anywhere you find your podcasts!
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Introduction and May 4th Excitement
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May 4th, 2026 has come in and with it we have been given one of the best pieces of content that Star Wars has ever created. Let's talk about it.
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Welcome to Zeus Views. Hayley Hobbs with us today. am so excited. i have not talked to you in so long. I cannot do Star Wars animation without talking to you. Happy May 4th. How's it going? Thanks for being here.
00:00:26
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Happy May 4th. It's amazing because we have Maul and I'm glad to be here. Thanks for inviting me. Yes. Like I said, I can't talk Star Wars animation without talking to you. Like I talked to you all throughout Clone Wars, all throughout Rebels. Like every episode was like you had to have every reaction.
Reactions to Recent Star Wars Series
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had the last podcast at the time of Bad Batch. So it's like, I talked to you, but it wasn't like in the same capacity unless you like had time to hop on the show for the peak episodes. But we did the most insane, like Ahsoka prep episode together. Oh, yeah. That was a lot what we had. I was like, I was crazy about it. And we had to educate people on who Ahsoka was. was like, sit down class four hours later. You go learn today. even cut some of it out.
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The best. Yeah, Star Wars animation is peak. And i was telling you off air, I had this whole opener about talking shit about Star Wars because i just was not happy. i mean, a lot of people weren't happy with Acolyte. I feel like they had a like the timeline was fascinating.
00:01:34
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The story, they were on to something, but just could not get on board with the twins. Like that story was just meh in the realm of like the world that they were creating. Of course, the lightsaber battles were insane. Like that was top tier, but like that's not memorable Star Wars that you're really going to be talking about down the road.
00:01:52
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And then Skeleton Crew was fun. It was like I had high hopes for Acolyte and it dropped me down that had no expectations for Skeleton Crew. not Skeleton Key, Skeleton Crew. And it was like a pleasant surprise. But again, like I don't actively think about like watching it again. Sure.
Favorite Star Wars Moments and Tales of the Jedi
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Last year, looking at the list now, we had Andor season two. I'm one of the weirdos that just that just did not. I wasn't hype about Andor. Yeah. I don't know why. Like I just I could not stay engaged and I couldn't keep up like with the storyline. Sure.
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And I'm one of the the minorities in that, but it is what it is. It's OK. You're allowed to feel the way you're feeling about things. But Tales of the Underworld was a lot of fun, especially with like Cad Bane's story and origin and all that stuff. Yeah. Nothing tops the Dooku story from Tales of the Jedi when they did that. i agree. i think that is the best of them. That was such good That was like the first thing they dropped, right? Yeah. Like the first episode was Ahsoka as a baby.
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oh yeah. And then they had the three Dooku episodes and then like two more Ahsoka episodes. But those three Dooku episodes were so top tier that it's like... The Dooku ones are so good. Oh, my God. Yeah. like, what do you mean he's the one that deleted Kamino from the Jedi archives? That's like a humongous lore dump. And they're just like, bloop. Yep.
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All the dialogue with him at Qui-Gon's funeral. And just... Oh my god. That was so good.
Tales of the Empire and Animated Works
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This reminded me that i actually haven't seen Tales of the Empire yet.
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Whoops. I've seen it. Do I remember anything about it? Not necessarily. was that one chick that was like framing Ahsoka, right? Varys Afi. Which i like i remember liking her stuff. but That storyline was good.
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The other part is about Morgan Elsbeth. My dog is snoring so loudly, so I'm sorry if that picks up. She just made this crazy noise behind me. like There's a park across the street. got kids screaming, too. I don't hear that. So I think it's Morgan Elspeth is the other part of Tales of the Empire, which.
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Yes. I liked both of them, but I think when you're doing Tales of the Empire, that's not what people were expecting, maybe. Expecting the Empire. this is so but you know can do can do no wrong still yeah so that's a recap of recent star wars and of course we talk about some of our favorite stuff being tales of the jedi which is animated go animated what is like in no particular order what is your top five star wars oh my god because i'm sure you had to have been asked do hair
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Like shows and movies? Yeah. Oh, thanks for the no prep time. i That's really, really challenging. That's why said no particular order. like Okay, just top five.
Character Development in Star Wars
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Okay, just top five. i Mando season one. ok Rebels.
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All of. know it's controversial to like the sequel trilogy but i do love the force awakens okay empire strikes back i have my and or take you have your se take and oh five that's a safe one i mean i'll do the ahsoka season one just because she's my favorite character and yeah It's hard to not say the last season of The Clone Wars, but I'm going to stick with what I said. I said what I said.
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well Standing on business. The last four episodes of Clone Wars is on mine. Yeah. Honorable mention. How dare you?
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it It can be your your top five like animated moments. Okay, let's listen. Listen. You didn't tell me we were doing this. I didn't know we were doing this. I prefer the show.
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You watched me try to come up with an opener. I don't do crap. I do people I can talk to. It was great. What are your top five in no particular order? Rogue One. Because I did answer this question yesterday. Empire Strikes Back.
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Revenge of the Sith. The last four episodes of Clone Wars. Because that's just a masterpiece of its own. And for the longest time... this this five spot was for the arc with Ahsoka and Vader in season two of Rebels.
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But I think it got replaced with just all of them all. Oh, I didn't even put Maul in there. No. Oh, no. Oh, no. What have
Fan Reactions and Expectations for Mandalorian
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I done? Okay. You gave your list pre-Maul. Yeah. I feel like this is easily the best animation project that they've made.
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I feel like Filoni definitely redeemed himself for whatever acolyte. and Don't be like that. Yeah. Dude, this this show has me dreading Mandalorian and Grogu. I know you keep saying that, and I don't... I think you need to think of them as two different things. I'm trying. Did you watch the sneak peek on Disney Plus for Mando and Grogu? Yeah, that was part of the problem. Oh, see, I thought it was very... I got kind of hyped about it. i was excited.
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Yeah, I mean... Find your joys, dude. What's wrong with you? Okay, let me set my expectations straight. Tap into your inner child. it is...
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how would you like How would you put Maul as a genre? Like, as a as a Star Wars genre? I have no earthly idea. Because you have... Sexy space crime? Like, what?
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Solo fall under that? In a category of its... Yeah? Why not? yes yeah' right. Chewie does work it in that. when he's all muddy what an intro the most
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i don't i feel like it's in its own new thing okay this is a realization i just had do you remember when ragnarok came out yeah And at the time of Age of Ultron, it was supposed to be like one of the darkest things that MCU had ever done. And it was supposed to be like dreadful and this and that. And then Taika happened.
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Yeah. Like, I think that's what's happening with Mandalorian and Grogu Forman because it was supposed to be like this crossover event and Ahsoka was supposed to be a part of it and Bobo
Quality and Depth of Recent Star Wars Animations
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was supposed to be a part of it. And now it feels space buddy adventure, which is what Thor and Hulk ended up being.
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And I think that's just why I'm like, I don't know what to expect. And I'm trying to temper my expectations so that just like with Skeleton Crew, I just have fun when I watch it because it's just like, this is what it is I'm just going enjoy myself. but I think it's supposed to be fun when you watch it. When I'm thinking Mando and Grogu, I'm kind of thinking of it as just action adventure, but also kind of I think they're going to do like in a way a coming of age for grogu because you know he's going to kind of be on his own probably it looks like a little bit so yeah it just looks like fun i think it's just supposed to be fun yeah can we have fun bad zoo have fun if you want to not have fun
00:09:34
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Watch my Shadow Lord and Thursday night tickets. I'm ready to rock. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to enjoy good old Star Wars. but like I thought it looked, like visually, I thought it looked fantastic. Oh, yeah.
00:09:46
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Which, that was something I was worried about. I think it's a puppet doing flips that just keeps cracking me up, too. But one of my favorite Rebels characters showing up looking really good. You know? Like, I was like, I don't know. i don't know, you guys. But I think it just looks... It looks like they took their time with it.
00:10:06
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Garazub Aurelius. Thank you. Sad. It was a Z. His full government name. I don't do Star Wars government names, dude. I had to look up a character name because I still know the master's name. i still don't know the freaking master's name from from all.
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Ego Dio Dio Daki. ego i Like, why? why are we going why are we going from hey Why are we going from Devin to Ikodayodaki? Look how it rolls off the tongue.
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It's glorious. The tongue's doing something. It's all part of the eroticism that is Maul Shadow Lord, okay? It's because of how much we're going eek when we see him. Eek. Eek.
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Eek. yeah
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What is this? If you didn't tune in for me to talk about how sexy Maul Shadow Lord is, tune out right now. like I mean, you warned me this was all this episode was going to be.
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I had visceral reactions to this show.
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In ways I'm not necessarily proud of, but I'm an open book.
In-depth Analysis of Maul and Empire Dynamics
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We went from pants off in Clone Wars to the Deep V to just like... He said all the red and black chest.
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I was talking to well we were talking about on source pages yesterday and i was like, you think Mal eats like because he's all, you know, cut in half. And then the conversation diverted to, well, he eats, where does it go? Which made me think of our conversation about his anatomy.
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It's Brian Stahl. He talked about why does, why has it hurt him when they're cutting into his metal legs? I'm sorry. didn't have a theory behind You invited me here. I did have a theory about that. I feel like what's left of nerve endings probably had to be like, I feel like that the science is like advanced enough that there's some level of communication between nerve endings and like how they control the legs. I'm down with that. I think that makes sense. If we can give Ming-Na Wen a robo tummy, then think it's fine.
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You know, like I don't actually have a problem with any of this. Yeah. But like if his intestines are still intact, I feel like the bile is just dumping into this container that he just has to like empty out from time to time. like He doesn't feel the need to shit, but like there's got to be some censor that's like, this is full. Unpleasant.
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I'm just saying we never see him eat. True. He's on a liquid diet. And Vader's just like in his whole capsule when he eats. Yeah. Little tiny mouse droids feed Vader when he's in his red light therapy room. yeah If Vader is about one thing, it's self-care.
00:13:07
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He's like, I have to have my mandatory two and a half hour light therapy session. Or what is It's a back-to-back. The beam lights on us. All right. That being said, would you like to plug Source Pages real quick? Oh, sure. Source Pages is my podcast with Ryan B. Klein, where we read comics and novels as primers for geeky TV shows and movies. Like we did one for moll Shadow Lord. We read the comics Mall Son of Dathomir, I believe is what they were called.
00:13:39
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Sort of a little... primer about what the character is like maybe some situations they've been in it doesn't always align perfectly with whatever we're watching but it's usually some background on the character so we are available everywhere you listen to podcasts go check us out we have fun do you giggle as much as this It depends on what we're talking about. depends on how tired I am. It depends on what kind of tangent we go on. It depends on how much Brian's willing to put up with me that night. You know, it's like, it just depends. All depends. It all depends. All right. so what were your thoughts about the show going into it? And did it live up to your hype and expectations?
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I'm always happy to see Maul because I think he's one of the most interesting Star Wars characters that we've gotten when he was revived in the Clone Wars. When we see him in Rebels, you know, he's like so tortured, so twisted. He's the most tortured, sad boy, BOI in the world. But... Like, he also is, you know, as we saw in the show, you find ways to, or they find ways to make you, the audience, feel for him. Even though, you know, i shouldn't. And so I just find him to be a great storytelling device throughout the Star Wars universe. And so I was very excited about the announcement of it. I didn't have any...
00:15:04
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real expectations of it being, i knew it wasn't gonna be bad, yeah but I didn't really know what the story was gonna be. And they were like, there's gonna be this father and son. And I was like, okay, like, how are we doing this? And so getting this very like morally gray story about everybody in the show being that way, i thought was fantastic and not something we see a lot of in Star Wars. Yeah. Mostly. Yeah.
00:15:31
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this This show is what makes me love the use of terms like protagonist and antagonist as opposed to hero and villain because the fact that somebody as twisted as this as our protagonist was just such a fascinating thing to be on board with.
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I was on the same boat where I was just kind of like, cool, more Star Wars animation. I'm i'm always down for that. And then when I saw that first trailer, I was like, oh, I'm like completely sold. And just like the intros that he had.
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Which were like so Rogue One Vader of him just popping in and just murdering people because why not? Highly dramatic. Highly dramatic. So much fun to watch.
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everything just about his storytelling and his character development and just like this whole journey and path that he's been on. Like, his like we were talking about, like, he just wants a student. That's all he really cares about. He just wants someone to teach to kill him. Like, is that asking so much? It's not. Poor guy. Poor guy. He just wants to be a mentor. But but this whole, like,
Relevance of Star Wars Storylines
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timeline of post-Republic new Empire, I think is, I think Rebels and...
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I'm drawing a blank on other series. Oh, Bad Batch. Yeah, really was like peak in that timeline. And it was just so fascinating just about like the transition and the political side of things and the shift of power and these you know people who have dedicated their lives to something for so long for being a peacekeeping thing, you know, being branded as villains, like everything about that timeline is so fascinating. So anything that they put, you know, relatively when within that is just so much fun. And i agree.
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Yeah, as much as people kind of roll their eyes as, know, Marvel and DC and Star Wars, if they fall down a pit, they're not actually dead. It's like, i'm really happy they revived him because it's been such a win on their part.
00:17:26
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Yeah. I mean, that as much as I love lightsaber battles, like me and a couple of my friends in Filipino martial arts were talking about the episode, the beginning of episode six where he's doing the shadow boxing where it's like my favorite part. My favorite scene. We're actively trying to break down that so that we can like reenact it.
00:17:45
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But just so the effort that goes into the lightsaber battles and making it as like practical as possible and putting like really, really good choreography into it is just so beautiful.
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And on top of that, like the music. The music itself is phenomenal. Like, i'm just I'm just giddy over, like, every second of what's going on in the show. Like, you talked about this being, like, a father and son story. Like, what's sort the relevance in this? Like, everything about that felt relevant. Yeah. I feel like one of my biggest gripes with Star Wars content is that there's so many, like, filler episodes for no reason. Mm-hmm.
00:18:19
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It happened with Mandalorian inch of fat on this. Yeah, it happened with Mandalorian. It happened with Bad Batch. It happens with Ahsoka. It's like, what did this do for the story? Like, you're only giving us eight episodes of this and then we have to wait two, three years. Like, was this really relevant?
00:18:34
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I'd rather you just give me four solid ones and they gave us 10 perfect episodes. There was not one waste a second in this. No, for sure. i i find this this brand new period of the Empire being put into power super fascinating. In the same way I find when the New Republic overthrows the Empire, that's a very interesting period in Star Wars timeline too because it's like the opposite of this. They go towards you know banning weapons and trying to demilitarize things and this is the 180 of like we're here to take control and whatever...
Character Dilemmas and Emotional Moments
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foothold we can get on a planet we're gonna take it and this so just showing how to how some normal people like space poppy is just a normal detective who is like trying to keep order in his planet so the empire doesn't come in i love that so much and then when they do it's just they're like oh we're here and in 20 minutes we've taken over like just to show how oppressive they are which we we know but we don't see a lot of it in that way and or did another good job of it i'd say too and i liked seeing it in this different way because like a majority of the population were like for the empire they were like this is how we get the protection this is how we end this war like it came to a vote this is this this right this is the way and like
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Daddy Lawson was just part of that, you know, the start of that rebellion of just kind of like, oh, you know, I love my home, so I'm going to stick around and play it by the book over here. But, you know, i I lost my wife because she was sticking with the Empire and I just do not side with them and they do not say who they claim they are. So like,
00:20:18
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That like social psychology of like why people prefer the Empire over Nod and what's good about it, what's bad about it, and the perception of Jedi and everything. yeah It's cool, and they they nailed every part of that. And even Two Boots having like this realization of, I don't think I did the right thing following my protocol. Even droid who's going to droid because he's a droid finally goes...
00:20:42
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Oh, well, I don't think actually this is for the best and it's too late. Like he's already and done the damage. You done fucked up.
00:20:53
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Oh my God. But he was just like, oh, this toxic wake was illegally placed here. I'm following report. Oh, other priorities. Probably not important right now. The way Maul was the one to look at him too. He's just like, oh God, he's like, sorry, sorry. I am just a droid. the droid.
00:21:12
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Speaking of droids... I love a murder bot. Which is so great. I just love a little murder bot, no matter what form or fashion we get them in. And i guess we should have said spoilers at the top. but The destruction of Spybot about split my soul in two yesterday.
00:21:33
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I was like, that's my guy. That's my little guy. One of my favorite moments was when he reunites with Maul, and Maul pets him like a little puppy. He's like, hey. So
Maul and Vader's Character Arcs
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so happy i love his little voice his little booshky do catchphrase like i loved him so much and i was like but and but as a storytelling device again like him losing his entire crew it's so indicative of mall's life like no one around him stays one way or the other yeah oh and that makes me feel for him like oh no I have abandonment issues too, Mal. I get it, honey. i can fix you. You can fix me. Let's do it. I'll stay with you. I'll never leave your side. I'll be your Padawan. You stick your lightsaber in me. I'll you in your I'll stick mine in you at the same time. It'll be great.
00:22:28
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You want to go out together? It's unhealthy. Such as the Sith. Yeah. I love it. Man, Devin taking the lightsaber from him was...
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It was one of those things. It's like we knew they were going to get there. How were they going to? I i was. Well, and we even knew how, right? You knew knew he was going to use Daki against her.
00:22:52
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But the way he did it was so good. Yeah. And sad. And delicious. And trying to be the voice of reason. And then as soon as they teamed up against Vader, I was like,
00:23:03
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oh Yeah. Yeah. that's what's happening here it was nice knowing i'm gonna go help your padawan good luck i saw a reel today that was like you know vader's like fighting docky and then docky gets that one to hit on him and then you can see vader be like okay i'm done whales on him until he kills him and i was like that's the anakin And him so hard. Like, oh, you done fucked up, bud. You should have kept running. This was my nice Thursday suit. What the hell is wrong with you? you put all He was already pissed off he got all the dust on it from. Like, Maul bringing the rubble down.
00:23:43
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Excellent. How do you think about Vader showing up? Fucking masterpiece, dude. Absolute masterpiece. Like, everything that the Vader comic... everything that the vader comic insinuated about vader is finally being put into animation and into live action and every bit of it is just so freaking beautiful yeah because like you see these fighting styles and it makes you wonder like how does this dude with stiff android parts keep up with a fight like that
00:24:16
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And it really comes down to like, that's what made him a like, I mean, but especially with how nimble he was, like when he was just Anakin too, right? So it's like, how do you transfer from that to that? And I'm looking at it from like this martial arts perspective of like, someone who's been training for 11 years and has like like, I have to change up my game depending on how my shoulders are acting that day because I have these injuries have to deal with. So it's like when I'm sparring, I can't just be like, well, I can't do this anymore. It's like, no, I have to adapt so I don't get whacked in the face with a stick. Mm-hmm.
00:24:43
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So seeing that from Vader of just kind of like he just has to be very intentional with his movements, but there is just pure power behind it. Like I'm just going to make every slash count. And even when it was 3v1, he was just like, this is cute.
00:25:02
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Yeah, he was like, i know how to deal with this. Sure, I've been at 13% power, so we'll up it it to 25. Yeah, just the intentionality of all the movements was just so well done. And then the brutality of like, well, he's not going to lose his Mandalorian buddy, right?
00:25:21
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Oh! I said, what's the matter, a T-Rex? let's get my dinosaur? And I said, mm-mm. It's like, well, we haven't seen her dead yet. It's like, no, no. That's Vader. She's gone. I feel like we heard a crunch. You know what I'm saying? He crunched her. Him just busting, like his hand busting through the wall actually made me jump out of my seat. The man has no chill and every bit of was so brilliant. He's so angry. He is the most angry boy. Star Wars did an incredible job of making...
00:25:56
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Something that wasn't given that much thought in, what, the 70s? Yeah. Makes sense now. And i cannot applaud them enough for that. Yeah. And then it was it was funny because when Vader was like, who are you? It's like, James Earl Jones is not available to take your message right now.
00:26:16
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but But i love I love that he didn't say a word. And then, too, if you've seen Star Wars Rebels, like when Vader shows up on Malachor, Maul is like, oh, I want none percent of this. and so And so getting the little bit of connection, like this is their first time meeting, and except for when he tried to run Anakin over. And, you know, it's like, ugh, this is so poetic. and yeah Can you imagine like Vader seeing Maul for the first time and be like,
00:26:44
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You were that... Do you remember remember you. But he really doesn't... I was in a Starfighter and I just saw him. He kind sees him. Yeah. Yeah. wonder if they're ever going to address that. Because he kind of sees him when he's fighting Qui-Gon. But then otherwise, he wouldn't see the... Because that was why Padme and all them were running the other direction. Then the Droidekas came out. But he wouldn't see him when they're back on Naboo because he was in the Starfighter.
00:27:12
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Well, he would have maybe seen him a little bit. Yeah, was literally for like seconds. And I know there's comics and stuff where they, i think they interact or they talk about each other. I've not read those, so I don't know the full story. Yeah, and I don't know the interact. I can't remember the interactions in Clone Wars, if there were any.
00:27:29
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I don't think that there really are. like Can you imagine Obi-Wan having to deal with Maul a couple of times and Anakin just being like, sure, like I know the name. wouldn't be as good. I love their little situation ship of hate that they're in he and Obi-Wan.
00:27:47
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Kenobi, the bastard himself.
00:27:51
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Lady Tano. so I first thought that Brander Lawson was dead, but now I'm not so sure after being on the internet for a day.
00:28:05
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What do you think? After shot a bunch? I think he's dead. So the the theory against it is that he's the only one who saw Maul push Docky toward Vader when he was like, okay, this is my time to recruit my girlfriend. He did. Mm-hmm.
00:28:25
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Okay.
Speculations on Future Star Wars Content
00:28:26
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So maybe he has a bullet proof something on because he's a police officer. Sure. Do they have Kevlar
00:28:38
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in the Star Wars? I know they have Beskar. Maybe he grabs somebody's Beskar and he's wearing it under his little outfit. i don't know. All that Beskar was acid.
00:28:48
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TBD. tbd yeah we lost all of our mandalorians we lost our night brothers oh man the way that he hit he why and the way he tackled those two three troopers i loved him into the ass and just went down with them the violence level peak so good scene i love we're actually doing decapitations on the very first episode that's great threw his saber and just cut those three guys in half in that one scene in episode 10 and he was probably like yeah that's how it feels i love it all i was so good and then like one of the inquisitors i feel like is trying to cut maul in half and i'm i was like oh what are you gonna do cut me in half again
00:29:31
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You think I don't have a back-up pair of legs in the ship? Right? these are my These are my Saturday legs. Can you imagine him just with like one hand and just like hopping on his abdomen like, going to get I can. that We see it. i don't I think we see that at some point in Clone Wars, don't we? Probably. i feel like we do.
00:29:48
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gets off of his spider legs. Oh my god, the spider legs. He's been through it He's been through it He just has like little spider legs that deploy as a back-up and he loses his legs. He gets...
00:30:01
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And then he and Vario are the same height and Vario's like, a but Come down here often? I liked the gangster of it all. I mean, I guess if you asked about the category of the show, I'd say it's like, it's gangster.
00:30:16
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Yeah. Crime. Very dark. I'm just trying to think of like what other what other shows you would put with it.
00:30:28
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Like, I guess those Dooku episodes were dark. You could put that with it. oh Yeah. and don't I don't think we've had anything quite like it. just It's a class of its own.
00:30:39
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Yeah, it's its own thing. And a perfect one at that. Until they do more stuff like this. More? Yes. Yeah. You guys better have season two ready to go very quickly. It sounds like they do Good.
00:30:52
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and I like what...
00:30:56
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Oh my god. Sam Witwer was saying about how like we see the Clone Wars part and the Rebels part and like how much storytelling there is in between. and it's like, yes, utilize every bit of that, please. They're introducing the Pyke so much more into like other stories and stuff just so it's like relevant.
00:31:17
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So now they're going after the leader of Crimson Dawn.
00:31:23
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I say, Brian was arguing with me last night. I say we see Kira come back. Which I'm very excited about because I i love her character That was the first thing that crossed my mind. i was like, oh, we're getting Emilia Clarke's character back. I hope so. And honestly, it'd be cool if we saw bits of Solo, like Han Solo in this. That'd be fun.
00:31:41
Speaker
That would be fun. I just want Kira back because I love her a lot. Her book, which is called Crimson Climb, is really good. It's a young adult book, but i it gives you her story from like when she and Han are on Corellia as kids, young people, to her being sold to Crimson Dawn and her like rise there. And so I think we would see her. She wouldn't be the same Kira we see in Solo. She'd be like a lower,
00:32:13
Speaker
ranked like lieutenant but yeah but in this world of but it'd be so good yeah it'd be really good and it'd be kind of like how we got like was it leia and rebels yeah yeah to to that extent would be awesome I love that episode. They're just forever kidnapping each other in that episode. It's so funny.
00:32:35
Speaker
Fake kidnapping. And she's all, why can't the Empire get control of these rebels? It's so I love rebels.
00:32:46
Speaker
Yeah, see a little bit of ha and See some Lando in there. see some Kira. Some Lando could be. I just think Lando makes more sense for sure. Yeah. I like that.
00:32:57
Speaker
Then he could be like what like the mention of Han or something like that of like I lost my ship. Could be. i I would if anybody's listening that's a reader like I would encourage you to read that book if you like Star Wars if you like the solo stuff because her you know she leaves Han leaves her behind and she kind of like vows to move on without him forever. Which you see in the solo movie. Like, you see, even though they have this connection, she's like, you're part of my past. And she, like, keeps him there, which I think is very cool character choice. Sorry. Yeah.
00:33:38
Speaker
Yeah, I like when... Read it. I like when they're able to just use characters that we're familiar with, because the world itself is already so big that... It's just nice
Expansion of the Star Wars Universe
00:33:49
Speaker
compressing it back down a little bit.
00:33:51
Speaker
Like we don't need a new planet every time or new five planets every time we make new Star Wars title. Well, they only have as many as they put on the map in the Ahsoka credits now. So actually in the, I have the book.
00:34:04
Speaker
It's called Star Wars Timelines, I think. and Okay.
00:34:09
Speaker
I had to check. Yes, that's what it's called. There's a map of the galaxy, like with the rims notated. And and so you can see, you can Google it. People have put it on the interwebs. It's kind of cool.
00:34:23
Speaker
Holy crap. Yeah, it's it's big. It's major. That's still way too much. I had to stare at it for about 10 minutes and I was like, I think I'm done with this.
00:34:35
Speaker
Here's an interactive galaxy map with appropriate planet coordinates of 2,000 planets, lore factoids, hyperspace trade routes, and full timeline tracker. my. It's intense, but it's fun.
00:34:50
Speaker
Enter hyperspace. That's quite the loading screen. Deep core, core, colonies, interim regions. Wow. Which I appreciate that because sometimes actually contrary to what you were saying, the Star Wars galaxy can feel very small.
00:35:09
Speaker
And so I like that they're like, actually, it's huge. And we've touched on like these little tiny parts of it. You know what I mean? There's so much more story to tell. Oh, yeah.
00:35:21
Speaker
Why would everybody... Why does everyone go back to Jakku?
00:35:26
Speaker
And then you see why he says that. Because they're all the way out in the middle of nowhere. If the Midwest were a planet, it'd be Jakku. Says the Midwesterner.
00:35:37
Speaker
man
00:35:40
Speaker
Not to offend anybody. Who goes to Idaho? and i
00:35:50
Speaker
Did you go back? No, I went to visit a friend but i for a spring break. A memorable spring break in Idaho. It's beautiful there, actually. Potatoes. Mountains and stuff.
00:36:04
Speaker
So, anyway.
00:36:08
Speaker
Mall. Mall. what are you What are your season two expectations? I want to know how deep into the dark side Devin actually goes.
00:36:19
Speaker
Like, is this actually... Is it just, like, a fit of rage? Or does she actually come back to her belief system and philosophies? She's already, like, questioning that at the yeah beginning.
00:36:33
Speaker
So, like... I don't know what what impacts her life to like determine if she fully goes into it or if eventually she just gets to this point where she's like, nah, this ain't for me. like I was just pissed off.
00:36:46
Speaker
Yeah. Do you think she walks away from him or do you think she gets killed? Because, of course, she's not with him in yeah Rebels. so Because you know the Inquisitors are still hunting. Yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
Vader probably forgot her already, but... She hasn't forgotten it. I don't even know who you are. i don't know. I feel like Vader has a little notebook. You know, like Ryan in the office when he comes back to work at Dunder Mifflin after prison. And he's like putting people on list. I feel like that's Vader. Yeah. Actually, that's more Kylo Ren. Yeah.
00:37:20
Speaker
Yeah. Vader's just like, I don't care who you are. You're in front of me. you're prey. That's the grandson himself. Yeah. So I don't know. didn't see Vader doing, I don't even know who you are. love it. The crossover we need. think that Devin. took everything from me. I want to see her go kind of deep only because her power level really seems pretty high. She's very skilled. And liked to see it.
00:37:56
Speaker
So I kind of want to see her get real crazy and then whatever happens, happens. Yeah. When you brought up Daddy Lawson, if he's dead or not, the reason I was also convinced that he wasn't is wasn't alive was because I feel like there's going to be a storyline of Riley with like protesting his mom basically because she's going to be the caretaker and he's because he has a taste of like what the empire is and it took his dad away and stuff like he's probably going to be part of the rebellion at some point yeah so I'm curious what I feel like his mom is going to be a bigger role in season two and I'm curious what that dynamic between the two of them is going to be
00:38:41
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I
Character Dynamics and Storytelling Techniques
00:38:41
Speaker
agree. Last night I said that I like that. I think that she's like early ISB. That's my prediction. Just because she looked so nondescript that it was like too nondescript. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so I like that the idea that both of his parents were like spies and detectives, but on different sides. And so I agree that I'd like to see Riley have to deal with that. He's not my favorite character in the show, so they need to give him...
00:39:08
Speaker
Something more interesting to do. Riley and Cassian crossover would be cool. Oh, that's cute. I like that. Yeah. Does he become... Yeah, does he become a spy like Cassian? Yeah. don't know.
00:39:24
Speaker
And we have to deal with Two Boots. the sword smiley. What's Two Boots gonna... Two Boots is such a little
00:39:34
Speaker
I don't know what to call him. Two Boots and... Oh my god, he's my favorite droid and I'm forgetting his name now. You like BD? No, Cassian's buddy.
00:39:46
Speaker
oh Oh, crap. Of course, now I can't think of it. K2. K2SO. Yes, K2SO. I would love to see them interact.
00:39:57
Speaker
I feel like K2SO does not be able to put up it a shit. Two Boots is such a goody Two Boots. I feel like he's going to call Riley's mom immediately. And so they're going to have to deal with that before... You know what I mean? Unless they didn't do a jump in the show. I feel like that's the plan, though. I feel like like... Isn't that what Lawson said? Like, get him to his mother?
00:40:18
Speaker
Yeah, but now they're with Dryden Voss. So this is not the most ideal getaway car driver Riley. That's a good point. Because they're going to be like, don't call the Empire. Like, we have our own agenda. We have a schedule to keep. We have to take down the leader of Crimson Dawn because I'm Dryden Voss and I have to be.
00:40:41
Speaker
So maybe his mom got the report of like all this empire stuff that went down and what the attack was like and who got away. And she was like, oh, my son must be a part of that. Like, I got to find him. Because Vos was even like, I don't want like the Empire's attention. like If it's hot like and Maul's not ready, like we're out of here. like He was so adamant about that. So I was just like, this is what I didn't want. And we picked up this kid that has the Empire on my ass now.
00:41:05
Speaker
Well, and if she is ISB, she could it could be assigned to her as like... Okay, so now you have to infiltrate Crimson Dawn to take down this. So that creates even more of a conflict where she has to do it secretly. I like that.
00:41:24
Speaker
I like my idea. We got there. We just wrote season two.
00:41:30
Speaker
So it's kind of like she doesn't want to, but she has to. Sort of a thing. Like she would have just gone and picked him up, but then... The Empire was like, oh, what a perfect opportunity for us to exploit your son and you to our own ends, which is what they love to do.
00:41:47
Speaker
I like it. like it a lot. Thanks. We did it, Filoni.
00:41:55
Speaker
What else? What did we miss? we miss any I'm sure so much. don't know. know. I think we kind of nailed it i I do want to say Wagner Mora as Brander Lawson. As soon as he started speaking, I was like, I know that voice. And I looked it up. I like, I knew it was Wagner Mora. I only want more of him simply because I want to hear his voice some more.
00:42:18
Speaker
who is that? Oh, he was in Narcos. But I watched him in the Secret Agent movie that was an Oscar nominee. And so it wasn't that far apart and I was like I've been listening I've been hearing that voice recently and yeah love him who's the why am I forgetting name the guy who plays Penguin Colin Farrell he looks like Colin Farrell in this headshot that I'm looking at of him interesting like a Latin get there Colin Farrell I think he kind of looks like Joshua Jackson and in the like the Wikipedia photo that they have of him
00:43:00
Speaker
pacey from dunson's creek he kind of looks like him in that photo
00:43:08
Speaker
don't know if it's wagner or wagner but wagner is how depends if you're german or not i well yeah i don't know i don't know Mr. Mora.
00:43:19
Speaker
And then Richard Ayoade as two boots from the IT crowd. Immediately i was like, yes, yes, this is perfect. He needs some more boots. He needs some replacement boots. The Empire made him get rid of his boots and I was like, that's rude.
00:43:32
Speaker
I'm surprised you recognize me without my boots. So funny. It's like, hey, I'm being arrested here, bud. Priorities. He's just a droid. Bye, Cora.
00:43:45
Speaker
She's doing the shakies. I was wondering why these two Inquisitors looked so familiar. And then, of course,
Roles of Droids and Inquisitors
00:43:51
Speaker
right away, it was the the montage of Ahsoka just wiping them out so easily. I'm interested, because in the Ahsoka Merrick or Merak or however it's supposed to be said, he's Night Sister Magic.
00:44:09
Speaker
Remember when she... yeah they like all tells him the green smoke yeah and then i've been seeing her the scene of her taking down the crow a lot as well and the same thing happens like she quote decapitates him but then when the mask hits the ground it just goes so that's interesting yeah oh are we gonna go to dathomir i hope so that'd be cool But the the philosophy that I had heard behind that was because like Maul fights in a state of rage where it's like Ahsoka has like more of that like being able to collect herself because she can kick Maul's ass too like we've seen it. But also because like the Inquisitors are students of Vader but with limitations. Like they're more...
00:45:01
Speaker
combat based but not in tune with the force whereas Ahsoka like obviously is like Vader's best student so well and to your earlier point she was taught by Anakin they're being taught by Vader those are two different fighting styles based on all the things you said before so and then that they were yeah intentionally they're held back so that they don't they're not Sith category too powerful yeah yeah because you can push that's about it Eventually, like, let's play out the theory that they got all of the rogue Jedi and all the survivors. What do you think is happening to the Inquisitors?
00:45:41
Speaker
There's no pension plan at the Inquisitorius. Yeah. Yeah. There's no healthcare. They're not spending that much money on these beings that they're just going to away with. because then they're going to get bored, like, not hunting. Just be like, so, you us just think they're going to take them all out, you know? But that's what's going to lead to it. It's like, hey, can you teach us more? Because we just got nothing to do. Like, can you show us more of this Force stuff? And it's just like, okay, let me introduce you to Force lightning. Come here. Let me show you something. mean, just over and over again. They just become part of the Death Star construction crew, like just force moving parts around. Or they send them to the prisons constructing the Death Star.
00:46:23
Speaker
But if you're force sensitive, I guess you wouldn't want them there. They'd have to just do away with them. This got really dark. Sorry.
00:46:32
Speaker
Just talking about employees being murdered. No biggie. But. Yeah. Inquisitorious. That's what called.
00:46:43
Speaker
That's what it's called, the Inquisitorious. Like the collective of them. I'm just imagining like their headquarters calling that like a Capital One building that says Inquisitorious. Yeah.
00:46:55
Speaker
They have a headquarters. We've seen it. They're little floating headquarters that we saw in the Obi-Wan show. Oh my god. There is a four-issue comic run for the Inquisitors. You can learn even more about the Inquisitorious there.
00:47:13
Speaker
And the Grand Inquisitor and his petty desires. You thought you killed me. No, he he craved knowledge and information. and Vader was like, no.
00:47:28
Speaker
you can't He's like, can I have access to the archives? And they're like, no. And he's like, what? Why? in your lane You are not a Sith. It's very much like he couldn't do it when he was a Jedi Temple Guard. And then when he became the Grand Inquisitor, he was like, now I'm going to be able to check books out from the library. And they were like, you still know.
00:47:48
Speaker
Oh, apparently you can go in the Inquisitorius on Jedi Fallen Order, too. oh Like looking at images, trying to remember what it looked like. o That's cool.
00:47:58
Speaker
It is cool. And I guess I got to watch Rebels again. Gosh darn it. It's just terrible. I have been wanting to watch Obi-Wan again after this. You know what? Little Leia. Such a good part of that show. Such a good part of that show.
00:48:13
Speaker
In the end scene where he's saying goodbye to her and he's like, you get this from your mother and you get this from your father and I'm like...
Evolution of Animation and Design in Star Wars
00:48:21
Speaker
Oh, she popped up as soon as you said that.
00:48:23
Speaker
Oh, I hate the internet. Ha ha ha ha ha. Stop listening to me. This went from cute to creepy so quick. That's on brand for us, I feel like.
00:48:38
Speaker
Yeah. i I had my little quirks with that show, but overall I loved it. Yeah.
00:48:44
Speaker
just force Jesus walking towards Vader and throwing rocks at him. It's like, all right, it's one way to wrap up this incredible fight
00:48:55
Speaker
Well, you know. You know. What are you going to do? But I did it in this show too. When in doubt, throw a rocks at Vader. Maul did it. Obi-Wan did it. That's the one thing they have in common.
00:49:10
Speaker
Ahsoka doesn't quite do it in the Malachor episodes, but... There wasn't any rocks around. Yeah, the temple collapses. True. Those are rocks.
00:49:21
Speaker
Yeah. They are now. Go kick rocks, Vader. Ha ha ha! Oh, wait. wait. You can just blast them. You don't have that dexterity, do you?
00:49:32
Speaker
Oh, That's terrible. He does with those. detail of him, like, actually trying to, like, push them away and slashing some of the rocks. And he's like, damn it. It's, like, so annoying.
00:49:43
Speaker
feel that Anakin frustration. when there's a fly and you're trying to catch the fly or get rid of it. And you just it just keep zooming around you. And you're like, my nemesis. Or surprise spider.
00:49:53
Speaker
The spider is dead. I killed it. Thank you. It was minuscule in size, but... There's no video proof of what I'm referring to. Nope. And there never will be.
00:50:05
Speaker
i think dead. It was really too small to tell. Oh, man. But I had the audacity to try to be part of this. and Just no arachnids on this call. Unless it's the bottom half of mall.
00:50:21
Speaker
but Nah, I don't want that bottom half. I'd try the line.
00:50:32
Speaker
He can just serve me tea and, oh you know, we can meditate together and move through the forms of combat together. You'll tea, Lady Hobbs. thats Oh, well, we should talk about, because we kind of did over Messenger, but, like, the the train fight scene...
00:50:53
Speaker
Episode 6 was the best. Like, as much as I love it, 6 was incredible. I still think about it every day right now.
00:51:03
Speaker
I just want to know who at Lucasfilm was like, let's make this show so damn sexy. Because, like, why are you doing that? You don't need to. I appreciate it. i appreciate What part specifically are you thinking about?
00:51:18
Speaker
Listen. There are undertones. Everything Sam Witwer says is sexy in his mall voice. I'm not alone in this.
00:51:30
Speaker
I know I'm not. I can't be. you are just a pawn of cities. The part where... Devin is fighting Marok and he's like where's Maul and he's like I'm right here I'm like yeah you are daddy I was like oh definitely cheered I'm like yes I just sat up I was like daddy daddy's home Devin he's here don't worry he will save you and then he recorded his scream into his lightsaber too was like that was cool amazing oh the details
00:52:07
Speaker
They did a lot of sound things, which some of it, I guess you need headphones. And so I didn't hear like during the intros, the little short mall shadow Lord intros. If you wear headphones, you'll hear like more background things than what plays over your TV.
00:52:26
Speaker
So I think because I have like at most speakers that I watch things at a. Did you hear them? all you Yeah, but I just didn't think much of it because I.
00:52:38
Speaker
I mean, I have the thing, the soundbar and the subwoofer, but don't think it was in that. So it's like it does circle around. So you have more of the surround. So I just think it's cool that they're lucasfilm's known for their sound work and i like that they're continuing to build on that stuff yeah and we talked i mean we talked about how much does love the music and the score and sound design and everything in this too another thing i saw on instagram the other day which is really interesting was that because they went with a city that had like darker tones to it they were adamant about like
00:53:18
Speaker
the flashes actually lighting up the scene. so like, if you do a freeze frame on whenever, like, one of the rifles go off, like, the whole scene actually turns red. Yeah. Whenever there's a deflection, like, they do that for every, like, specifically, like, one frame that does it. Mm-hmm. So, again, like, that attention to the design detail. The lightsaber effect being more draggy, I think that was why they did that, too, right? Yeah, to have, like, that long exposure look. Mm-hmm.
00:53:47
Speaker
It's so cool. It's really beautiful. There was... One of the intros, it was either 9 or 10. Not maybe an intro, but it's a shot of the city that looked like just like a matte painting.
00:53:59
Speaker
That was so cool. and it Maybe it was. Because it's been the style since Clone Wars. like Everything about the design of it looked painterly. and Because like I watch and love anime, like there's so much of like that simplistic design that I appreciate. And there's times where I wish Clone Wars did that so didn't feel so...
00:54:21
Speaker
like robotic, I guess. Like, it just felt like too much work went into movements where it's like, hey, if you just shave some of this off at work, but, like, now they have the budget and the resources and stuff to, like, make that. So it's like, we're going to respect the original design, but we're going to add more detail. and love We talked about this so much with Bad Batch, but just, like, how lifelike everything looked. So it's like, they made everything as realistic as possible, and then they added the Clone Wars style back into it, as opposed to just making it, like, damn near live action. Right.
00:54:52
Speaker
Yeah. And it works. And it's beautiful. Yeah. It's gorgeous. But to have that option as opposed to like, we're working on a Disney Channel budget. Let's see what we can do with it. It's now we're on a Disney Plus budget.
00:55:06
Speaker
Yeah. It's it's amazing. it's Every iteration of the Clone Wars animation has just gotten better and better. and I love that. Yeah.
00:55:18
Speaker
And that some of it even feels like I know Rebels was supposed to be like the pencil drawn, you know, Ralph McQuarrie homage, but some of this animation even felt like that in a way.
00:55:31
Speaker
i'm just glad we don't have super skinny lightsabers anymore. That was the one thing I couldn't stand about Rebels. Oh, I don't mind. Little toothpicks.
00:55:41
Speaker
It's like when you're in Photoshop and you can change like the pencil size and it's like, let's make it all the way narrow and just pencil. Yeah. Yeah, it's a thing. On Canva, I guess.
00:55:53
Speaker
I was making a joke, but it's okay.
00:56:00
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Making my pencil smaller.
00:56:06
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or baar Or bigger.
Cultural Impact and Fandom Influence
00:56:10
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Depends what set of legs you brought that day. Yeah. I'm trying to think... Nathan was saying very like Batman-y.
00:56:17
Speaker
And even to the point where Riley is having his game at the stadium, that which is kind of kind of made me think of like when... What's his name that turns into cyborg or whatever? He's having his football game. oh yeah yeah. I was like, yeah, they're introducing like these sort of Batman elements that I like. Maroque like perched like a little gargoyle on top of the roof. Maroque was also sexy. He had that sexy cape. I was like, oh. Yeah. oh no oh my god their entrance down the cave it's like something's coming like i thought they were going to have another dramatic walk in and they were just like who there sport running oh they are ready to go i love when filoni makes them do force running because we see it so infrequently and so yeah anytime you do it's like yeah that's the thing like yeah you sort of see it a little bit in the phantom menace and then you see ahsoka do it in rebels and then this and i don't
00:57:11
Speaker
There might be some instances in Clone Wars that I'm not thinking of, but it's not used very much, and I love it when they do it. Yeah, and they were even saying it's like, yeah, we like we can't even jump across this because of the low ceiling and stuff. So it's like they didn't the way that they address like the forced jumps was cool, but it's like, force run!
00:57:30
Speaker
And then every time Raven got down like low to was just like when he was like crawling towards people to get his hits in or he was having like a super like on the ground stances like was just like, oh, oh, yeah, he means business.
00:57:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah, he's he's cutting off ankles. Jesus. We just love a dismembering. That's the Jedi thing. Come on now. Which I guess they're former Jedi. so Not necessarily. Anyway, Daki always seemed to sense things faster than everybody else. So I took that to mean he's like very in tune with the Force.
00:58:03
Speaker
I mean, Maul kind of addressed it too. It's like, he's a master. We're going to yeah going to work with this. I guess I didn't even think about this until just now, but when he was talking to the the Mandalorian and was like, he's a master. going to use him and we'll take care of him when the time comes. Like, I didn't even think about the fact that he actually said, oh yeah this is that I don't have to deal with him. get re Vader's going to fuck him up. Okay, bye. He's like, we're going to keep around until he's no longer useful. and he, yeah, he he sure did not take that as as, foreshadowing. I was like, something's going to happen to him and a mall's going to have nothing to do with it. But I was like, oh yeah, mall had everything to do with it.
00:58:43
Speaker
He did. He did. It was... The three of us together, we can win this. Maul's like, nah, bro. But I also think, you know, I think there's a point where Daki, like, probably knew. you know what I mean? he's He's like, I know that he's going to do... i know he wants Devin. I know he's going to use me against her. i don't know. He seemed very... rational, sometimes to a fault, but like just very black and white. Like I know what's going to happen. It's almost like he had already accepted that he was going to lose this. That's what I'm trying to say. And that's a much better way of saying it.
00:59:22
Speaker
It's the whole like angel and devil on the shoulder thing. And he was just kind of like, bro, with the with the things that you've already been saying at the beginning of this series, like, I know this ain't for you. But I'd really appreciate if you stuck around because I care about you. You're my Padawan.
00:59:40
Speaker
Except he like abandoned her a couple times. Docu did. Yeah, he's like, yeah, you need to turn yourself into the police. Yeah. Girl, why? Just use your little forcey force and be like, no, she didn't steal that. And then after he breaks her out of prison, after Maul does, Maul breaks her out of prison. Yeah. there's something instead of helping her he helps the the people which is what he's trained to do but yeah and in his mind he's like well Devin's and he says that Devin is well trained she can take care of herself but your kid is safe I lost your kid everybody wants to be loved what's that like i don't know
01:00:28
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I got dark so anyway We talked about this over text too, but the carjacking. Absolute perfection. oh yeah and the way that you only hear the music when you're in the car too it's just so good boys need lift this is what i'm talking about was that not a sexy scene for devon i'm like like yes devon go girl and she's like get in i'm like i will get in there no questions asked all the backseat drivers and she's like i'm sorry are you a jedi
01:01:03
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Also in the... Fast and Furious is part of our training. think We have a NASCAR track inside the temple. exactly. This is course on temple. Or an F1 track.
01:01:16
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You need to see Yoda going straight to class like from his pit crew.
01:01:24
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That's so silly. Oh, man. Good times. Good times. I don't know that i have anything else to bring up.
01:01:35
Speaker
I'm surprised we had this one to say. I'm not. It's a fabulous show. I keep like hesitating to record shows because I was like, I'm only going to talk for like 10 minutes
Closing Thoughts and Future Anticipations
01:01:44
Speaker
if anything. like why did I start this podcast? Like, I miss podcasting, but I want to do it with people and I'm scared to do it by myself because it might get boring and here we are still swooning over an hour. It's like, yes, this is more fun with people.
01:01:57
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This is a very swoon worthy show too. It is Yeah, I loved it. I thought yeah No notes. My only note, I think I told you before. Did I say that on here? The Paul Bettany voice was not great. But I understand not having Paul Bettany do it.
01:02:14
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Do it when they have season two and actually have. It just could have been better. I don't know. Him as a recurring character. Yeah.
01:02:25
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But otherwise, 10 out of 10. Yeah. yeah
01:02:35
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masterpiece grogu and mandalorian in two weeks i'm excited it'll be fun it will be fun it'll be fun zero it'll be fun i said it this time i meant it that time you sounded like you didn't believe it no i do it'll be fun got my front row i'm gonna have a bucket of popcorn to myself it'll be a thursday night The front row? Not like front front. Oh, I was like, that's wild.
01:03:05
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Like when you walk in, there's like that's why you're not goingnna enjoy it there's like the front row of the top half. You're not looking at like the back of people's heads. You sit behind the handicap thing. So you have the rails to keep your feet up against. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:03:18
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I got you. Okay, I just, you said front row. and No, no, not front row. I was like, I don't know if we can keep being friends. Like, how do you enjoy anything? anything You are unwell.
01:03:29
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I mean, yes, but not in this instance. Same. i love my I have my theater preferences. Me too, me too, me too. It's crazy, like, the middle actually is perfect, but then there's people. Yeah.
01:03:42
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Well, and should you unfortunately have to get up? You have wade through people. yeah I think that like for our theaters, it's only Atmos that has the recliners.
01:03:56
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so it's like when i do get those, then I don't mind sitting in the middle because like they have like these like half wall partitions between each row. So it's like I'm not looking at the back of anyone's head. I can kick my feet up like this. is And if you have to get up, there's plenty of room to walk. Even if you are fully reclined. You can like sidestep between they'll like i mean it' my legs, but most people's legs I can sidestep through.
01:04:17
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That's how my theater is too. my my tweet It's all the Atmos? No, it's the 21 and only. so we went over It's the best. It's the best. I sacrifice everything to be in a theater with only adults.
01:04:34
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Or no one. Or no one. Or no one. The last movie I saw where nobody was in there. It's been a while. I've had a few where I like have been like, oh, I'm going to be the only one here. And then people show up.
01:04:46
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One was the drama. I thought I was going only one in there for the drama. And then like all these people showed up and I was like, oh, good. Mine was packed. my i mean for the I went to it like on a Friday morning or something. like I took the day off to have a day or something. And there were a shocking amount of people there.
01:05:03
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I was like, we're all here to have this experience together. That's another movie we should re-watch and talk about. We should talk about the drama. That movie was great. Yeah, it was. i still want talked to talk you about Shrinking, if you're up for it. I haven't i know. i haven't have not continued my watch of Shrinking yet, but...
01:05:23
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It's great. Soon. It's great. Now that we're talking about other things. Yeah. It's time to end. That's our cue. But yeah.
01:05:34
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Thanks for being here. For all the. For the like five people that. Watch this show. For episode three. Go check out source pages. If you haven't already. Haley. I love you. It's great to have you. It's great having Star Wars animation. And to everyone that watched. Thank you for being here.
01:05:50
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I will talk to all of you soon. Stay well.