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Ep 109: Jersey Jack has Harry Potter?!
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Sarah and Christen Line join us to talk about the chaos that is Harry Potter and give some details on the speculation
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Introduction and Hosts
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We're on another episode.
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Thanks for tuning in.
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It's the Loser Kid Pinball Podcast, episode 109.
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I'm your host, Josh Roop.
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With me, my co-captain, as always.
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Scott Larson.
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And Scott, we've had some amazing news.
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We've got great guests on this evening.
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I'm hyped.
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It's been three weeks.
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We've...
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It's been a minute since we've been on mic.
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We waited, especially for these guests because we couldn't get it to work last week.
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And this week it's like, no, the, uh, you know, the universe aligned and they gave us a hot topic, a hot topic for, uh, by the way, if you're not watching the video, you totally missed the reason why I went, um, went full captain underpants mode.
Pinball Machine Orders
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But absolutely, I'm super excited about this.
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And the news fairies decided to drop a bomb on us over the weekend.
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So we're going to talk about that.
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But first, if you're going to get a pinball machine, who are you going to get from, Josh?
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I've been blowing up Zach's phone this last week.
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Last two weeks, actually.
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Because I've had a couple games on order.
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Jurassic Park Premium's coming out.
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I've got an Iron Maiden Pro coming.
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I've got a Foo Fighters Pro coming.
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I'm starting to run out of space, so I'm going to figure out where to put my Deadpool Pro.
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Life is good right now, right?
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So I always call Flippin' Out Pinball.
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It's Zach and Nicole Many.
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I actually personally message them through Messenger.
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I feel like
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Zach, it's easy to respond and then it's easy to stay on track of things.
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But if you're looking for that game, it doesn't matter who it's from.
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He gets it all.
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If you want World 1 2.0, it's probably not going to be likely.
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But then again, hey, if you want that secret, what is it, the rumored list of Harry Potter, he keeps those lists and he's good at keeping them.
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Super secret.
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Super secret.
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But before, enough of that.
Guest Introductions and Anecdotes
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Scott, why don't you introduce our guest since you're in the same profession.
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That is true.
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I am kind of jealous because Christian jumped on the moniker of Dr. Pin.
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I couldn't be Dr. Pin.
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Copyrighted, bro.
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Copyrighted.
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Yeah.
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Trademark hashtag.
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Did you officially copyright that?
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Because I think I may steal that.
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Christian line and Sarah line, two of my favorite people in the world.
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Christian is a partner in crime and that he sleeps with strangers and, and Sarah also teaches fourth graders.
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So can I, can I please ask for some context with sleeping with strangers?
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Okay.
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We're both anesthesiologists.
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I was thinking you were still in fourth grade, actually.
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I thought you were still in your physics, man.
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And then I put two and two together, and now I feel a little more comfortable about that.
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But thank you guys so much for having us on.
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We've been huge fans of Joe forever.
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Way back when, I think a few years back, Sarah sent you some swag, and included in that swag was an extra small shirt for your wife.
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that said WOMP on it for Mrs. Pinn.
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And Scott proceeds to send us a picture of him with this extra small shirt on, you know, busting out of this thing.
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And I love the guy, you know, ever since.
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I was going full, uh, full, uh, you know, uh, Randy Savage mode.
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Remember the IK I I'm a child of the eighties.
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So like all the guys who would, uh, go the gym rats, they would have, cause you had to have a shirt on to work out.
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And they wore the smallest halter tops I've ever seen in the world.
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They were like these string bikini things that barely covered like four inches of your nipples.
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I thought you were going straight up Tommy boy.
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Like, you know, when you had that little.
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Yeah.
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Oh, absolutely.
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You made it look good though, man.
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You rocked it with confidence.
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I was a little, I was a little nervous that you guys were going to say, this guy's a weirdo.
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Oh, we totally did.
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But like, that's right up our alley.
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Yeah.
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You're in good company.
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You are.
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We knew we were a little bit safe though, when you guys were friends with Teolas and Martin Robbins.
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So, you know, we were.
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Solid people.
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Solid people.
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True story.
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Yep.
Sarah's Podcasting Journey
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Oh my goodness.
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Well, previously Christian is, has been on the super awesome pinball show and Sarah, you had, it's been wild, but Mrs. Pinball podcast.
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So what's going on there?
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Give me some updates.
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Hmm, man, we've had a lot of pinball stuff going on lately.
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I don't know.
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It's been crazy.
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We had this past weekend, we went to Malvern, Pennsylvania, which is the home of the pinball gallery.
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It's like our favorite place to go play pinball.
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The people that are amazing and they have the best games ever.
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So anytime we want to go play a new game, that's where we go.
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It happens to be like an hour and 15 minutes from our house and we live kind of in the middle of nowhere.
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So it's really nice that we can like head down the road if we don't have the game that we want to play here in our basement.
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We keep trying to get her to podcast about this stuff.
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So it's good that you guys are giving her the opportunity to, you know, get on the mic because I miss it.
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I know a lot of people talk to her all the time and say she should get back into it, but we both retired from podcasting.
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So this is an awesome opportunity to get on the phone or the horn and talk about some pinball because we definitely miss doing it.
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Yeah, we do, man.
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It's I've got like every once in a while I whip out my phone because I'm I'm like straight up high tech with the Mrs. Pins Pinball podcast.
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But I probably do.
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Do you have to flip it up?
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No.
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It's just like... Oh, okay.
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It is a smartphone.
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It is a smartphone.
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Quality is surprisingly good considering the fact that I'm usually talking on it in my car.
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But I probably have about 20 hours that I have logged of just like random ramblings about pinball over the last few years that I just haven't edited and put on here.
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So...
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Maybe at some point I'll make like a lost Chronicles of Mrs. Pinn.
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There you go.
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It'd be like a time capsule.
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I love it.
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That'd be great.
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It would be Mrs. Pinn's time capsule.
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I would love to hear your predictions from like four years ago.
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I probably have some.
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I probably have some really funny assessments of new pinball machines as well.
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So yeah.
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What's cool though, is that ever since she has stopped podcasting, there are a million podcasts that have popped up and a lot of really strong female voices that were missing when Sarah did her thing.
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So it's awesome to see that.
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It's great that there's a lot of representation out there that Sarah kind of
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led the charge to a certain extent.
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I think I am just a trailblazer.
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Yes.
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I am a hundred percent pioneer.
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I mean, they call me the pioneer woman actually.
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Yeah.
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Between the sweet pioneering and those toppers that you make, you gotta be honored when someone says that these should be nominating you for like best topper of the year.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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It's something you make.
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Let me go get the award, actually.
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Christian nominated me.
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I felt like it was very much nepotism, and I thought he was really ridiculous about it.
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But I did get a – what?
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Hold on.
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He's trying to turn on the light, and we're not sure if the batteries are in there.
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You don't even know how to do that.
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But this is the pinball candy for best pinball offer in the year last year.
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This is the only trophy I have ever gotten for anything ever.
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You have it.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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We won an award and I still don't have an award.
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So it's, it's just the Josh's I have talked
Charity Work in Pinball Community
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to Zach multiple times.
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Like, dude, I will pay for the award.
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I just want a physical award.
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So I could actually say yes, that I, that we did something, but yeah, no, he's like too busy selling pinball machines or something.
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I mean, minor details.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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So, yeah, I don't know.
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Other than that, let's see, we went to Allentown, which I know we're going to maybe talk about a little bit later.
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We've done, we've just done a lot of stuff, played a lot of new games lately.
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It's been, it's been like, we've been flush in pinball.
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It's been actually really amazing.
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Good time to be in the hobby.
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That's for sure.
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Yeah, for sure.
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It is definitely like a thyroid storm level of pinball.
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I like it.
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You just have all the catecholamines released at once and you're about to blow your ears off with your blood pressure because it's just... It's like everybody held back for about six to eight months.
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It's like in Braveheart where they're like, hold, hold!
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And they just pull up their spears.
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Then they released the Kraken.
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Yeah, they did.
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We had James Bond...
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We're all sitting there enjoying Bond, but that was really all there was to talk about for a long time.
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And now the pinball media has been given a gift with all of these games.
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They don't coordinate.
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They should talk to each other.
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By the way, next week, we're going to release a pinball machine.
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Maybe you should wait a week or two.
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Just a little heads up.
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They could even draw straws to see who gets to release first.
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I mean, we can make it fair.
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Just my thoughts, my two cents.
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Yeah.
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But listen, we're not complaining.
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We love it.
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We love geeking out with everyone else.
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It's really true.
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And it's nice not having to necessarily think about how we're going to talk about it on a podcast and we can just listen to guys like you, you know, give us your thoughts and soak it all in as just, you know, bystanders, pinball, hobbyists.
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Sponges.
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I want to give one piece of advice, though.
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You know how you guys said if you don't have the one trophy you have, right?
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If you're sick of not getting trophies, you can just steal some ones.
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Yes.
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Whose is that?
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Jack Danger's Rookie of the Year Award.
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Oh, my God, dude.
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How did you get that?
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He was walking.
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So we co-hosted – or not co-hosted.
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So we did a bit for Twippy last year.
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And we walk out and Jack's staying outside and he had like an armful of these because he'd won, you know, whatever.
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14.
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Yeah.
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So I just literally grabbed one out of his arm and was like, you have too many of these.
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I'm taking one.
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And he's like, okay, have it.
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Bye.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no snickerdoodles.
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You actually got one.
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Sorry about that.
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I'm not sure that he, he wanted to give you the rookie of the year.
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Maybe it was just like the pinball personality that people watch the most maybe, but yeah, the streamer or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, there is always that option, you know, you just grabbed the wrong one.
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You have that and he gave me permission.
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I think I even had him sign it.
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So yeah, he signed it on the back too.
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Oh, there you go.
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That's hysterical.
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That's a nice trophy, man.
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Holy cow.
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Quality.
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Yeah.
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And I don't have that.
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I like the crystal better.
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I'm not going to lie.
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On your bookshelf better.
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Yeah.
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The crystals, the crystals really nice.
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That's really nice.
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It's really nice.
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Yeah.
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The pinball awards.
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They definitely know how to make an award.
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Yeah, this is true.
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Yeah.
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That one's, that one's high quality.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So what do you guys want to talk about first?
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First topic.
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Hold on.
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Before we get into it, I want to hurry.
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And I really just want to announce this because it's friends.
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We're all friends with them here.
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Bruce.
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Nightingale and Ron Howlett, they are doing something right now until the end of the month.
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So you have until next week.
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You can send money to Bruce via wizard mode or wizard underscore mode at yahoo.com.
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And he's going to donate to this to Seward Side Prevention in the name of Lyman Sheets.
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This is something that we all firmly believe in.
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And they're spearheading this and they're saying that the reception has been amazing and they're going to be talking about here soon, probably in the next week or two.
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We know that you guys are very giving.
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We appreciate what you guys did with flipping the script on autism.
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Here's another time to step up and answer the call.
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And what an amazing cause too.
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It really is.
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And to tie it all back into Pinball with Lyman I think is amazing.
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There's some really great people in this hobby, which is why we all love it.
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And Bruce Nightingale and Ron Howard are definitely two amazing guys.
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And the fact that they're setting this up is amazing.
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is awesome.
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And you guys are in that equation too, with the flipping the script and what you did for, uh, for autism awareness.
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And, um, it's just, it's great to see that so many pinheads are also great people that are willing to help out others.
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Um, yeah.
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So kudos to Ron and Bruce and, and kudos to everyone else who's doing similar things.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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I can't wait to hear the update for them.
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I know that, that Bruce gave us a little bit of an update when we were talking to him.
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Cause
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Like I said, we definitely want to push this out.
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Lyman was such an influential.
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If it wasn't for Lyman, I don't know where the state of pinball would be currently now.
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I mean, there are certain people that were very pivotal throughout the history of pinball, and Lyman's one of them.
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And so to honor him in this way, I think, is very admirable of Ron and Bruce.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's awesome.
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And on the plus side, I mean, in the modern world, we all get isolated, right?
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We all get siloed, we all get isolated.
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And it's pretty likely that you may be the only person in your immediate social group that listens to us.
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And so if you are feeling isolated, please talk, you know, reach out.
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There's nothing wrong with going to a therapist.
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There's no, there's nothing wrong with the reach out and getting help.
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So, cause the world's certainly better with you in it.
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That's right.
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100% agree.
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Yeah.
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I know we, we donated French, you donated, I'm sure you guys did as well.
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So, you know, join us all in, uh, in, in helping this really great cause.
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And, and Josh, what is the best, I mean, there's the email.
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Is that, is that Venmo?
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Is that PayPal?
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Like PayPal.
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That's PayPal.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So yeah, go to PayPal.
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Just type in wizard underscore mode at yahoo.com.
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If you don't use PayPal, you could reach out to Bruce Nightingale or Ron Hallett on Facebook.
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That's the easiest way.
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We get a hold of them, and they can probably figure out some other way.
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And I know like when we did flip in the script, someone wanted to send a check.
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They, that's just what they wanted to do.
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I wasn't opposed to that.
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So we, yeah, so it works.
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Definitely a great cause.
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And just, you know, it's, it's sad when someone ultimately succumbs to an, an illness such as, you know, depression, anxiety.
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And if, if we can just say one person, it'd be worth it.
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Yeah.
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And we, you know, honestly, we have, um, I'm not gonna share the person's name, but someone reached out in the last six months.
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I was talking, they called me and we were talking and they said mentally they were in a very bad spot and we had an episode.
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I can't remember what was the episode with Jeff Rivera or if it was a different episode, but we did talk about mental health and how,
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He had specifically mentioned what Scott had said.
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Your mind is a muscle too.
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You have to take care of it.
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You've got to work on it.
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And you can't neglect it like you would anything else in your body.
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And he took that to heart.
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And he got the help that he needed.
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And his life has been so much better.
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That's awesome.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we take for granted that you can really reach a lot of people with stuff.
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Even as small as a pinball podcast, there are people listening.
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And if you can do some good, take the chance to do it.
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Yep.
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Agreed.
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So sorry to bring it down.
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That's not bringing it down.
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That's actually connecting it to life.
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Yeah, true.
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I mean, cause, cause that's, I guarantee everything else we're going to talk about is way less important than your mental health.
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And so let's work on your mental health by talking about fun things.
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Yeah.
Allentown Pin Fest Highlights
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All right.
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What do you want to talk about first?
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Cause I know we have like a big list of stuff and you know, this is like one of those, uh, it's jeopardy.
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Like pick your category.
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What do you want to talk about?
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You guys, listen, you guys are the captains of the ship.
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We are here just to help out.
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So you tell us what you want to talk about.
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We're going to go all in.
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You were so selfless.
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I was going to be like, well, loser kids, I'll take Allentown for 500, please.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
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Allentown for 500.
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This is why I married him.
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He's the selfless one.
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I am really selfish.
00:15:58
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Yeah, which is why you became a fourth grade teacher.
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Right, right.
00:16:02
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Yeah, okay, true.
00:16:04
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All right.
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How shortcomings are made up for?
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Have you guys been to Allentown, Pennsylvania for Pin Fest?
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Sadly, no.
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Have you been to Pennsylvania?
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Yes.
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Yes, I have been at Hershey Park and I rode, I think it's the Grizzly.
00:16:19
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Is that the Grizzly?
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The Great Bear.
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The Great Bear, but close.
00:16:21
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Oh, the Great Bear, okay.
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Yeah, I think my bone, I think I have like chronic pain in my back.
00:16:27
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from this thing that was built in like by pioneers i think i i'm not kidding i think george washington like he he he is the one who built it himself after he shopped down the cherry tree i don't think you're thinking of the right one it's very smooth but i kid you not there is one there is one i do remember one because it was through all these woods and we don't have wait wait
00:16:50
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Okay, we don't have roller coasters that go through woods out in Utah.
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All right.
00:16:53
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Well, listen, they're in the ER when I was a resident there at Hershey Medical Center.
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We would have people come in and they would legitimately have like cervical injuries and neck pain and back pain from a few of the roller coasters at Hershey Park, one of which goes from like zero to 60 in or zero to 70 in like a second.
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So you're sitting there and if your head's not up against this thing, you literally smack your head back as it shoots you off.
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So lots of, you know, lots of dangers, man.
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Being in the medical profession has scarred me for a lot of things.
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Trampolines.
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Grapes.
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Grapes.
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Monkey bars.
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Grapes.
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Seriously.
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Grapes.
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Monkey.
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See, monkey bars I'm okay with.
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We actually have a trampoline that's in the ground.
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I probably wouldn't put it in, but we bought a house with it.
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So, and the kids like it.
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Yeah, I know.
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You got to take some risks, but ATVs definitely no.
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No kids on ATVs.
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Hey, ho.
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they wouldn't know the hay holes we have the amish is that code for something the amish literally a hay hole in a barn the hole that they throw the hay down but are you serious all the kids fall through we have a stoltzfuss trauma scale so so stoltzfuss level one trauma is where you have a um a buggy injury because these are like little metal coffins that they drive around
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We are so off track.
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We're totally off track.
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Let's go back to pinball.
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Is there a pinball machine in the back of this buggy?
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I mean, can you, can Amish play pinball?
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I don't want to disparage any.
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Because it is electronic, but they all have cell phones.
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It's gambling.
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It's gambling?
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The devil.
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Oh, 100%.
00:18:31
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No, it's not gambling, is it?
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Oh, I think it's gambling.
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I just think it's electronic, so you can't really use electronics.
00:18:36
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This is us talking about a religion I have no idea about other than watching Harrison Ford and Witness in like 1984.
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I learned a lot when I visited, because we went to Amish country and we went to a restaurant.
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I learned it's very like interpretational per family.
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Because I'm like, we're in this restaurant and I'm like,
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It's all lit by lights and like they've got fryers for the fried chicken.
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And I'm like, so I guess it all just really could have a pinball machine.
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Come on.
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Yeah.
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What about the fire and brimstone pinball machine?
00:19:02
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Let's let's get that out.
00:19:03
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Totally.
00:19:04
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Totally.
00:19:04
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We could we could definitely go into this forever, but I can tell you that there is Amish and then there's Pennsylvania Dutch and the two are are different, but similar.
00:19:12
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So you might see someone who's Pennsylvania Dutch and think that they're Amish because they're dressed similarly.
00:19:17
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But then they bust out their Motorola flip phone and you're like, OK, that's not Amish.
00:19:21
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That's not Amish.
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So I bet you anything you were probably in some kind of a Pennsylvania Dutch restaurant.
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Agreed.
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There you go.
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That would be my guess.
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Anyways, but deep in the heart of Pennsylvania Amish country is a little town called Allentown, Pennsylvania.
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And the only time we ever go there is for the Allentown Pin Fest.
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Every year.
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Yeah, it's held in a fairgrounds, which is amazing.
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They have this money farmer's market right across the street from where they hold it.
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And the star of the show by far are these soft pretzels that are basically a sandwich.
00:20:00
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And in the soft pretzels are like these amazing foods like chicken wings, bacon, ranch,
00:20:08
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Like Reuben pretzel sandwich.
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Anyway, the food is on point.
00:20:12
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Chicken wings with bones?
00:20:14
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No.
00:20:14
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Okay.
00:20:14
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All right.
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Like buffalo chicken wing dip.
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Okay.
00:20:18
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All right.
00:20:18
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Okay.
00:20:19
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So basically chicky nuggy dip.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Definitely.
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So anyway, the food is on point.
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And then you go across the street and it's a pinball extravaganza.
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They've got tons of pinball machines on the floor.
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They have a swap meet and like a flea market that's one of the best of any of the shows out there.
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Tons of vendors.
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Tons of vendors.
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They have a great IFPA sanctioned, I think it's a Stern Pro Circuit pinball tournament that Greg Pavarelli ran this year and he did an amazing job.
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And then you have all of the distributors come and they bring the best of the best.
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So all of the most recent games were there.
00:20:50
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We got to try out all the goods, except for maybe, I think Scooby we missed, but we hit that up later at Pinball Gallery.
00:20:57
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Yeah, we played that at Malvern.
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We got to play all of the new releases and hang out with pinball friends.
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And, you know, that's what it's all about at these shows.
00:21:04
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Definitely.
00:21:04
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It's awesome.
00:21:05
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It's a great show.
00:21:06
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If you haven't been, you got to go.
00:21:07
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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We weren't jealous at all.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I feel like coming across the country for the Allentown Pin Fest might be a stretch.
00:21:15
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But if you could coordinate a vacation with the Allentown Pin Fest.
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To hang out with us.
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It would be 100% worth it.
00:21:22
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You guys, open invite, guys.
00:21:23
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How many open bedrooms do you have downstairs that...
00:21:26
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My family can just crash there.
00:21:28
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We have a guest suite upstairs.
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So we've got a queen bed, two couches, a suite with your own bathroom.
00:21:33
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Wow.
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And then we have a Murphy bed in our basement with all the pinball machines.
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And in the guest room, there's a fridge with snacks and drinks.
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Coffee maker.
00:21:42
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That's right.
00:21:43
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Is it like a mini bar situation where if you take something out and put it back, then it charges your room?
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Yes.
00:21:49
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For you, it is.
00:21:49
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Just don't leave for you.
00:21:53
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No, but you guys have an open invite, obviously.
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But yes, it's a great place to go.
00:21:57
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It's a great show.
00:21:59
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There's a lot of competition out there, but this is a really – one of the shows that I think you should try at least once.
00:22:04
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It is like a family reunion.
00:22:07
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Yep.
00:22:07
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Like in the best possible way.
00:22:09
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It's just – that is the best part of this show is that everyone goes.
00:22:13
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And so even if you can only go for one of the days, like it is just everyone is there.
00:22:18
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All the people.
00:22:19
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Yeah.
00:22:20
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Everyone except for the loser kids.
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We missed you guys.
00:22:23
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All the important people go to Allentown.
00:22:25
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Yes.
00:22:26
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Yeah.
00:22:27
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Well, this year it wasn't, I was going to say this year it wasn't on mother's day.
00:22:30
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So that's a perk too.
00:22:32
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Cause that's okay.
00:22:33
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I, I celebrated mother's day by hanging out with pregnant women.
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So.
00:22:37
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Oh, you're on OB?
00:22:38
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Well, that's kind of appropriate, right?
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24 hours.
00:22:41
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All right.
00:22:41
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Well, a lot of mothers.
00:22:43
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I thought you were talking about like your wife and I don't know.
00:22:46
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Who else?
00:22:46
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That's what I was... Oh, no.
00:22:47
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Okay.
00:22:48
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It would be a miracle of God if my wife were having a baby since she's had a hysterectomy and I've had a vasectomy.
00:22:54
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Oh, you guys want double protection.
00:22:56
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I like it.
00:22:57
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Well, it was kind of a... Hers came after mine.
00:23:02
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So... I got you.
00:23:04
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Got it.
00:23:05
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unrelated we all get older sponsored by uh manscaped yeah exactly you know what gotta keep your pinball smooth i guess yes you're tying i like it you guys said this was a clean show all right yeah it's a clean show i swear manscaped sponsors everything like that's watch a peppa pig on youtube kids and
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manscape comes on you okay you need it you need to edit your search history if you're getting that i swear the demographic they're like it doesn't matter who the demographics for it's just any dude over the age of 18 you know yeah and you're watching peppa pig got it well because my kids daddy pig yeah you guys all get it you all have kids yeah get it
00:23:54
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You don't want to go watch Moana for the 20th time, but someone's just obsessed with singing the Ocean Song, and so you have to watch it again.
00:24:04
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We've all been there, man.
00:24:06
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It's you that's obsessed with the Ocean Song, right?
00:24:09
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Yes, that's why I call it the Ocean Song, because I can't remember the name of it.
00:24:11
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That's how obsessed I am with it.
00:24:14
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You might be thinking about The Little Mermaid, too.
00:24:17
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You might just be confused.
00:24:20
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So you're telling me Allentown's definitely worth...
00:24:23
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coming to and enjoying at least once.
00:24:26
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It is.
00:24:26
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It is.
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I think so too.
00:24:27
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It's no TPF.
00:24:28
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It's no, it's no, you know, what's, what's the one in Chicago that's huge that I'm totally buying?
00:24:35
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X-O.
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X-O.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
00:24:37
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Yeah.
00:24:37
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And obviously, you know, Texas is, is huge too, but,
00:24:42
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This is a great show in terms of just hanging out with people.
00:24:45
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All the games you want to play are there.
00:24:47
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And of course, there's the pretzel sandwiches.
00:24:49
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So you have to factor that.
00:24:50
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When we say they're good, like we live an hour and a half away and we may or may not have been known to drive there just to get a sandwich and then drive home.
00:25:00
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Is it on the same path as like the pinball palace that you go to?
00:25:04
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Or is it different?
00:25:05
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No, it's sort of ish.
00:25:08
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It's like a diverging fork in the road.
00:25:11
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Because apparently you live like just over an hour away from everything.
00:25:15
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Pretty much, man.
00:25:16
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Pretty much.
00:25:17
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Yeah.
00:25:17
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I mean, like if we're talking major cities, more like two and a half, but like Philadelphia, New York, Washington, D.C., we're kind of in the middle of all of it.
00:25:26
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Hey, just like.
00:25:26
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Yeah.
00:25:26
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Yeah.
00:25:29
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I'm in the middle of nowhere.
00:25:30
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You're not even close.
00:25:31
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You're where dinosaurs are.
00:25:34
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My major city is Salt Lake City and it's three hours away.
00:25:37
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Yeah.
00:25:37
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We're known for our dinosaurs.
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So.
00:25:39
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Oh, wow.
00:25:39
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That's cool.
00:25:40
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Yeah.
00:25:41
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Sarah loves a good dino.
00:25:42
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I do.
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They're my favorite animal.
00:25:44
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So, um, we have the longest collection of dinosaur bones.
00:25:48
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It's a quarter mile long and it's two stories tall.
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And when all, yeah, it's a dino wall.
00:25:55
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And, uh, when they filmed Jurassic park,
00:25:57
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back in 1995.
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That is where they collected the bones from was our location.
00:26:01
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That's pretty cool, man.
00:26:02
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That is cool.
00:26:04
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It's a claim to fame.
00:26:05
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Yeah.
00:26:05
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And then they discovered the Utah Raptor out in this area.
00:26:08
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So because a Veloc Raptor is actually the size of a chicken.
00:26:11
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I don't know if you know that, but I did not know that, but no, I didn't either.
00:26:17
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That's why the closest living relative to a T-Rex is actually a chicken.
00:26:23
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A chicken.
00:26:24
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That's why I'm terrified of them.
00:26:27
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That's why they attack me like they're the highest on the food chain.
00:26:31
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Yeah, exactly.
00:26:31
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Are you seriously terrified of chickens?
00:26:34
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No, I'm not.
00:26:35
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I had a buddy in college who was scared of cows.
00:26:39
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So it's not out of the realm.
00:26:42
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It's still bizarre.
00:26:43
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It is super weird.
00:26:44
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A cow can definitely roll you.
00:26:46
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Oh, yeah.
00:26:47
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I'd be more worried about a cow.
00:26:49
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Okay, so Allentown, you're saying thumbs up.
00:26:52
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Thumbs up.
00:26:53
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Thumbs up.
00:26:55
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Pretzel sandwiches and Allentown.
00:26:57
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I think I'm sold on this, Scott.
00:26:58
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We got to figure this out next year.
00:27:00
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You guys need to come together and we'll all hang out.
00:27:02
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We'll go to Allentown Pin Fest.
00:27:04
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Yeah.
00:27:04
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And then you can like tie it into a bigger trip like New York City, Philadelphia.
00:27:08
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You could go do some like historical stuff.
00:27:11
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Oh, yeah.
00:27:13
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Do it all.
00:27:14
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Hang out by Gettysburg.
00:27:16
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Yes.
00:27:17
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Gettysburg is only 45 minutes away.
00:27:18
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So you could literally do that too.
00:27:22
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Yeah.
00:27:22
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Sorry.
00:27:22
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We're going to tackle the elephant in the room here because we got to get
Harry Potter Pinball Machine Speculations
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to it.
00:27:26
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All right.
00:27:26
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All right.
00:27:27
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Yeah.
00:27:27
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All right.
00:27:28
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Jumping in the bed here.
00:27:30
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Okay.
00:27:30
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For anybody who is listening to this podcast, they understand what we're talking about.
00:27:36
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Random post over the weekend.
00:27:39
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was Joe Cam and Cal saying, basically just announcing out of nowhere that JJP has the Harry Potter license.
00:27:50
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And I believe he posted like a mock-up, which had like a Stern machine in it.
00:27:57
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It was, it was kind of bizarre for so many reasons.
00:28:01
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So sus.
00:28:02
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So weird.
00:28:03
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Yeah.
00:28:03
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And, and the, now everybody's screen grabbed it, but the post has since been deleted.
00:28:11
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However, when I saw the only thing that came up, like I had like that question mark thing that, you know, on role-playing games, when the person has like, I have a quest for you and it has a question.
00:28:25
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Right.
00:28:26
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I like, seriously, I just wondered why.
00:28:31
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You know what I thought?
00:28:33
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First thing I thought, woman scorned.
00:28:37
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That's exactly what I thought in my head.
00:28:39
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I thought, this is a woman scorned.
00:28:43
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There's some sour grapes there.
00:28:44
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That is exactly what I thought.
00:28:46
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I was like, dang, what the heck happened to Joe?
00:28:50
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Yeah.
00:28:50
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What happened?
00:28:51
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That was exactly what I thought.
00:28:53
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Someone has done this man wrong.
00:28:55
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And that goes to the point that, you know, when we had Joe Cameco on our show, he brought up a couple of times that he was going after the Harry Potter license.
00:29:05
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This was a license that if anyone was going to get, it was going to be Joe.
00:29:08
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And he was going to do it right.
00:29:11
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And if anyone was going to design it, it was going to be Joe.
00:29:13
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And so we all thought that that would probably happen if we ever had a chance.
00:29:18
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He certainly has the history, right?
00:29:21
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He has the connections.
00:29:22
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He has the connections.
00:29:23
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He's got the moolah.
00:29:24
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And I would even say more so than Roger Sharp.
00:29:26
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As much as I love the guy and he's a high-powered dude who can get licenses, I feel like this is one of those unicorns that takes a special connection.
00:29:34
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And I think Joe is one of those guys that might have that.
00:29:38
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And he did the mobile game too, right?
00:29:40
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Correct.
00:29:43
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He's been down this road.
00:29:45
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Yes.
00:29:46
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So Cameco, he posted online, he takes it down.
00:29:48
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That just adds additional flames to the fire.
00:29:51
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And I can confirm that the mockup that was posted on that Facebook post was indeed Christopher Franchi's art.
00:30:00
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And that was a Stern machine prototype that he was going to, you know, use to hopefully, you know, sell this game to WB as a machine that could be made.
00:30:10
Speaker
Sure.
00:30:11
Speaker
And beyond that, a lot of it is speculation, right?
00:30:16
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They brought it.
00:30:17
Speaker
I know for sure that because that image was made, that it was brought to WB and to JK Rowling.
00:30:24
Speaker
And they were trying to get that passed by her because she's forever.
00:30:28
Speaker
The rumor is, is that she has been totally anti-pinball because she thinks it's a gambling device or she associates it with bars or places of ill repute.
00:30:36
Speaker
And so...
00:30:38
Speaker
I think that they probably through that and through through Cam and Co's actions, got them to lighten up a little bit and to loosen up with with the chance to make this a pinball machine.
00:30:50
Speaker
And from there, it gets murky.
00:30:52
Speaker
Right.
00:30:52
Speaker
So if Joe if Joe was able to get this and he was able to actually, you know, get them to agree to it, then you would think just intuitively he would bring that to Stern and Stern would, you know, make the game.
00:31:05
Speaker
especially because the mock-up was made on a Stern pinball machine, right?
00:31:08
Speaker
So that had to be their approach.
00:31:11
Speaker
Now, how it got from Stern to Jack Winery, there is the mystery.
00:31:15
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And I don't know if anyone fully knows why.
00:31:18
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I don't know, man.
00:31:19
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Jack, he is a wily dude.
00:31:23
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I could see.
00:31:25
Speaker
Again, I thought first woman scorned and then I thought, oh, man.
00:31:28
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Yeah.
00:31:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:32
Speaker
He's shown that he can sneak in there and grab stuff.
00:31:34
Speaker
So maybe he came in and he sniped that license before Stern could act.
00:31:39
Speaker
Maybe Stern had the license.
00:31:40
Speaker
We all know, you know, we've talked to Franchi on our show about Prince.
00:31:44
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He tried to get that license and they wanted some absurd number for licensing fees.
00:31:49
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$1.5 million.
00:31:50
Speaker
That's right.
00:31:51
Speaker
So you would have to imagine that Harry Potter would be more than that, right?
00:31:54
Speaker
So we know Stern has been notoriously...
00:31:59
Speaker
smart from a business standpoint, you would say, in terms of keeping their bomb low and keeping their costs reasonable.
00:32:06
Speaker
They have had some machines like Elvira that have been expensive machines to work that license in.
00:32:11
Speaker
But you would have to imagine Harry Potter would be way higher than all of that stuff, right?
00:32:15
Speaker
So maybe they just passed on it.
00:32:17
Speaker
And then Jack Winery swooped in and picked it up because they have angel investors that have a lot of money and might be willing to take the risk.
00:32:26
Speaker
Maybe these angel investors could invest in me.
00:32:30
Speaker
I know, seriously.
00:32:32
Speaker
Sponsorship.
00:32:32
Speaker
Sponsorship deal right here.
00:32:34
Speaker
One thing I want to point out too, because you guys have talked about this on Super Awesome Pinball Show.
00:32:38
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Gomez has talked about it on multiple podcasts.
00:32:41
Speaker
Doing mock-ups for a pinball machine is not
00:32:45
Speaker
Because there was a lot of questions like, well, if JJP got it, then why is this Stern mock-up happening?
00:32:50
Speaker
This is very common.
00:32:50
Speaker
This is how they got James Bond.
00:32:52
Speaker
I remember the Goldfinger one was floating around for a while.
00:32:55
Speaker
If you've ever seen that artwork, that's what they do.
00:32:58
Speaker
They take a pinball machine, they do a mock-up of it just to shoot it over.
00:33:02
Speaker
So that kind of diffuses some of that.
00:33:03
Speaker
They've got to sell it to the people who hold those licensing rights.
00:33:08
Speaker
And they have no idea about pinball.
00:33:11
Speaker
They probably have an idea about video games.
00:33:12
Speaker
They probably have an idea.
00:33:13
Speaker
probably have an idea about even like mobile games and even slot machines but pinball everybody thinks of like captain fantastic from 1978 or something yeah right so the reason why i'm talking about this like it's it's a done deal is that i just talking to kamiko in the past it doesn't seem like he is a troll he's not so he's a straight shooter like he he says it like it is right
00:33:37
Speaker
So, he, you know, I don't think it's an April Fool's post.
00:33:40
Speaker
I don't think he's, he was kidding.
00:33:41
Speaker
I think he was serious.
00:33:42
Speaker
So, you know, I do think that Jersey Jack has this license.
00:33:47
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And that, to me, is awesome.
00:33:49
Speaker
Because I know for years, I've said, this is a dream theme of mine.
00:33:54
Speaker
And if anyone gets it, I want it to be Jersey Jack.
00:33:57
Speaker
for a couple of reasons.
00:33:59
Speaker
But I think they'll do it justice.
00:34:01
Speaker
It's just a huge, a huge title.
00:34:04
Speaker
And man, there's going to be some serious expectations.
00:34:06
Speaker
It makes me really nervous, actually, because I am such a huge Harry Potter fan.
00:34:12
Speaker
I have read all of the books to like every class I've ever had.
00:34:17
Speaker
I've read the series a billion times.
00:34:19
Speaker
I've seen all the movies.
00:34:20
Speaker
I've done it with my kids.
00:34:21
Speaker
I've done it with my students.
00:34:23
Speaker
I just feel like this is such a huge, huge undertaking.
00:34:28
Speaker
I mean, and we were even just talking before we got on here about, okay, are they going to just take one book?
00:34:34
Speaker
Are they going to do the whole shebang and just make it overall the series?
00:34:38
Speaker
Because you could make 50 pinball machines out of this series.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:43
Speaker
Or three machines maybe?
00:34:45
Speaker
I don't know.
00:34:46
Speaker
Will each one have like a different same game but like different mechs so that it's like representative of all of the different books?
00:34:55
Speaker
I feel very nervous about this.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:57
Speaker
I mean I feel like if they're truly going to try and cram seven books worth of material into a single game, getting a ridiculous amount of code into a game is something that Jersey Jack is pretty good at.
00:35:08
Speaker
So they might be the best person to do that.
00:35:11
Speaker
Oh, I don't want to see it.
00:35:12
Speaker
Okay, but why?
00:35:12
Speaker
Why?
00:35:13
Speaker
But that's my question is if, okay, we're diverging a little bit, but you have seven books and eight movies.
00:35:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:25
Speaker
And the question is, do you, would you really want to put seven books worth and the books just got longer and longer?
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:35
Speaker
Yes.
00:35:36
Speaker
Like the, the last one was about three to four times longer than the original.
00:35:41
Speaker
And so it seems like way too much.
00:35:46
Speaker
It would be like doing every single Star Wars in one pin, including Clone Wars, including the crappy mini baby Jedis that are on Disney Plus.
00:35:59
Speaker
Mandalorian.
00:36:00
Speaker
Mandalorian, yeah, it was awesome.
00:36:03
Speaker
But putting that all into one game.
00:36:06
Speaker
I feel like two.
00:36:08
Speaker
Oh, go ahead.
00:36:09
Speaker
Go ahead, Sarah.
00:36:10
Speaker
Sorry, I feel like too that if you are going to tell this story, which is, this is about the story to me, right?
00:36:16
Speaker
And the pinball machine has to tell that story.
00:36:19
Speaker
You have to start at the beginning.
00:36:20
Speaker
You've got to.
00:36:21
Speaker
And that first book is so much, God, there are so many ways that you could take the first book and have so many different mechs and modes and different multi-balls.
00:36:35
Speaker
And oh my God, you could go so many different ways.
00:36:38
Speaker
Josh, I want to hear your thoughts before I go into more details.
00:36:42
Speaker
What do you think?
00:36:43
Speaker
I'm not opposed to covering the whole eight movies.
00:36:45
Speaker
And the reason being, when you think of the eight movies, like obviously you could get rid of Deathly Hallows part one, because that's pretty much them sitting in a tent.
00:36:52
Speaker
Camping in the woods.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:54
Speaker
So it's like, okay, there's one movie out the window.
00:36:56
Speaker
And to your guys' credit, like you said, like Mandalorian had a pinball machine that covered the first full season.
00:37:01
Speaker
And those episodes were all an hour long and they had, what, eight episodes?
00:37:05
Speaker
So there's eight hours worth of content.
00:37:06
Speaker
So I don't think it's so as hard to cover eight movies, especially one you're pretty much discarding anyway.
00:37:12
Speaker
That's a great point, man.
00:37:19
Speaker
Look at Godzilla.
00:37:20
Speaker
How many movies did they cover for Godzilla?
00:37:23
Speaker
Okay, I think the Godzilla price tag is going to be significantly cheaper than the Harry Potter price tag.
00:37:32
Speaker
We're taking price off the equation right now.
00:37:34
Speaker
But licensing too.
00:37:36
Speaker
There's a reason why when Rush released their set list and their 17 songs on there, however, two of those songs are literally half albums.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah, because it was it was a bargain price because you only had to pay one licensing fee and you got 30 minutes worth of stuff.
00:37:56
Speaker
It's got weight.
00:37:57
Speaker
Wait until they take the sorting hat and they cut it into little swatches of cloth and they stick that under the glass.
00:38:02
Speaker
You know, it's going to be through the roof.
00:38:05
Speaker
Well, and Mark Silk does do the voice of the sorting hat.
00:38:10
Speaker
There's that asset as well.
00:38:11
Speaker
I just want to throw that out there.
00:38:13
Speaker
I would love to see Mark involved.
00:38:14
Speaker
But back to the point of it, my honest, my.
00:38:17
Speaker
So I was I was talking to some other people in a private chat about this.
00:38:21
Speaker
My nervousness is, is.
00:38:24
Speaker
With this being this far out, because really, Eric just released his game.
00:38:29
Speaker
The rumor is next is Steve Ritchie with Elton John, if that holds true or not.
00:38:33
Speaker
Then Mark Seiden's going to release one.
00:38:35
Speaker
I highly doubt they give the newbie the Harry Potter license.
00:38:38
Speaker
I really doubt it.
00:38:40
Speaker
And then Eric's up again.
00:38:42
Speaker
My guess is it's going to go to Eric.
00:38:44
Speaker
I mean, I hope so.
00:38:45
Speaker
Especially with, and I don't know if Franchi will do the art for it, but it seems like with him doing Godfather and with how well received it was and there being a good relationship there, I think he's the man to do the art.
00:38:56
Speaker
So you do, you have Eric and you have Franchi teaming up.
00:39:00
Speaker
But my concern is, is we're so far out
00:39:03
Speaker
We saw this with Toy Story that we heard the rumor for so long that there just became such wild ideas of what it should and shouldn't be.
00:39:10
Speaker
And by the time it finally rolled around, people were disappointed because it was Toy Story 4 and it didn't meet the expectations of what they had in their mind.
00:39:19
Speaker
You're going to never reach those expectations, right?
00:39:23
Speaker
I mean, this is a property where I don't know if anyone is going to be truly happy with everything that's in this game.
00:39:29
Speaker
But if anyone's got a shot at it, I think it's Eric because he's got the game design prowess.
00:39:35
Speaker
He's got rules knowledge.
00:39:36
Speaker
He also has a mechanical engineering background.
00:39:39
Speaker
He can make some sweet mechs.
00:39:41
Speaker
And I do think that there is a lot of room for magic and JJP can certainly, you know,
00:39:47
Speaker
do that and afford it.
00:39:49
Speaker
So I know of anyone in pinball, the number one person who is the most excited about this is Jeff Patterson from TWIP.
00:39:57
Speaker
Yes.
00:39:58
Speaker
He has been insanely looking forward to this game.
Harry Potter Pinball Machine Features and Challenges
00:40:02
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So I reached out to him when this rumor hit and I said, hey man, did you hear about this?
00:40:05
Speaker
And
00:40:06
Speaker
And that that preceded about 25, you know, minutes of just straight texting back and forth about all this stuff.
00:40:12
Speaker
But he gave me a list of things he wants to see in this game.
00:40:15
Speaker
And they're they're brilliant.
00:40:16
Speaker
So I want to share them with you guys, if you don't mind.
00:40:20
Speaker
Time Turner ball save where the ball reverses course and returns to the flipper via a magnet.
00:40:25
Speaker
I think that's genius.
00:40:28
Speaker
For a mode with the mentors, you have all the lights go dark gray and they move slowly towards the flippers.
00:40:33
Speaker
And there's one shot that's lit for expecto patronum.
00:40:36
Speaker
I think that's great too.
00:40:38
Speaker
Physical ball locks, and then you have to use Alohomora to open the ball locks and release your balls from multi-ball.
00:40:45
Speaker
A ball enters an apparate shot, and then a knocker sounds and a stage ball comes out instantly from the other side of the play field.
00:40:51
Speaker
Dude, he has really thought about this.
00:40:53
Speaker
He really has.
00:40:54
Speaker
I said, dude, I have to use these.
00:40:56
Speaker
I have to tell the loser kids about this because I think these are great ideas.
00:40:59
Speaker
And then the flippers are like your wands, and different shots are different spells as you go through different modes.
00:41:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:05
Speaker
Brilliant as well.
00:41:06
Speaker
So Jeff Patterson, I hope they use some of the great ideas.
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah, those were great ideas.
00:41:10
Speaker
I'm wondering, is it going to be, so Mandalorian, they had basically five missions, right?
00:41:19
Speaker
So is it going, but each book has a whole bunch of different missions.
00:41:24
Speaker
And so how would you possibly select, let's just say each book probably has five missions in each book.
00:41:34
Speaker
I think you'd have to break it down.
00:41:36
Speaker
If you're going to take all of it though, you would have to, you'd have to take the big goal or the big problem from each book and somehow just incorporate the main ones, you know, like instead of the goblet of fire being the whole, every single mission that he has to go through to fight the dragons and all that other stuff, you just have to do the goblet, you know, you couldn't, you couldn't break it down to the minutia because you're not going to have enough room on the play field.
00:42:03
Speaker
Well, you could even, you could even.
00:42:04
Speaker
For something this big, you should do two games at least.
00:42:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker
I agree with you, man.
00:42:08
Speaker
I think, I think you could easily do three games.
00:42:11
Speaker
I mean, you could.
00:42:12
Speaker
But they won it.
00:42:13
Speaker
They won it.
00:42:13
Speaker
So let's be realistic.
00:42:14
Speaker
I think they're going to do one game.
00:42:16
Speaker
I think that that's like a, that's like a, an obvious thing.
00:42:18
Speaker
So who knows?
00:42:19
Speaker
Maybe the, maybe the licensing is going to narrow it down and force them into one path versus another.
00:42:26
Speaker
So that could be, you know, one, one way to speculate how this goes.
00:42:29
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:30
Speaker
But if Jersey Jack did get it, I feel like just in terms of their budget and the amount of money that they put into making the machine look incredible and amazing, it does have the most potential to live up to my imagination.
00:42:46
Speaker
I mean, the other question is, do you use the actors from the movies or like the books when they first came out, they had illustrations of what they all look like?
00:42:53
Speaker
Could you use a animation?
00:42:55
Speaker
I think it would probably be too expensive.
00:42:58
Speaker
They're never going to get Emma Watson.
00:43:00
Speaker
No way.
00:43:03
Speaker
And I will say that another issue is, and I actually highly recommend a podcast.
00:43:12
Speaker
It's called The Witch Trials of J.K.
00:43:13
Speaker
Rollins.
00:43:14
Speaker
And it's really interesting because it does tell issues outside of the books.
00:43:22
Speaker
And there is a little bit of tension between the actors and her camp.
00:43:26
Speaker
And so I don't know if they would be able to find a balance.
00:43:30
Speaker
But I highly recommend that podcast.
00:43:32
Speaker
If you're looking for another podcast to binge on, it's really good.
00:43:38
Speaker
Yeah, I just think the asset load would be so expensive that it just would be impossible.
00:43:45
Speaker
A lot of the actors have passed away since they've made these movies.
00:43:49
Speaker
A lot of them have died.
00:43:50
Speaker
Yeah, Hagrid's gone.
00:43:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:53
Speaker
Snape is too.
00:43:53
Speaker
Snape is gone.
00:43:55
Speaker
Dumbledore is gone.
00:43:56
Speaker
There's a lot of them that have passed away.
00:43:58
Speaker
Maybe they can get Gandalf.
00:44:00
Speaker
Do you think I can get Ian McClellan in there?
00:44:03
Speaker
He's in everything else.
00:44:04
Speaker
Why not?
00:44:04
Speaker
Right.
00:44:06
Speaker
He lends his voice very well.
00:44:07
Speaker
Yes.
00:44:08
Speaker
You shall not pass.
00:44:10
Speaker
Josh, I I'm waiting for you to jump in, Josh.
00:44:13
Speaker
I haven't I haven't heard your take on this.
00:44:16
Speaker
So I don't know.
00:44:18
Speaker
I just see it's it's an uphill battle.
Market Predictions for Harry Potter Pinball
00:44:20
Speaker
It's going to obviously it's going to be an evergreen title.
00:44:23
Speaker
I mean, I just don't see how it's not – like look at Star Wars with Stern.
00:44:27
Speaker
The pinball community itself might not be a huge fan of Star Wars, but they're still making at least one run of those a year because of the demand coming out of locations.
00:44:37
Speaker
And this is just one of those things.
00:44:39
Speaker
It's a theme everyone loves.
00:44:42
Speaker
Right.
00:44:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:43
Speaker
And how does an operator do you pass on this?
00:44:45
Speaker
This is one of the most, if not most recognizable license to date right now.
00:44:50
Speaker
It's a draw.
00:44:52
Speaker
Huge draw.
00:44:54
Speaker
They will have an upper tier model, obviously, right?
00:44:57
Speaker
That's going to be absolutely ridonkulous in terms of price.
00:45:00
Speaker
So are you like $15,000 for a CE right now?
00:45:04
Speaker
I think it's going to shatter that ceiling.
00:45:07
Speaker
This is easily $20.
00:45:08
Speaker
At least.
00:45:09
Speaker
I mean, that's a car.
00:45:11
Speaker
That's a car, guys.
00:45:12
Speaker
I mean, like, holy cow.
00:45:15
Speaker
Okay, here's the question.
00:45:19
Speaker
In or out?
00:45:21
Speaker
We're 100% in.
00:45:22
Speaker
Oh, that is up for debate.
00:45:26
Speaker
Right, right, right.
00:45:27
Speaker
What I will say though is it will be very hard to pass this up.
00:45:31
Speaker
The only issue is do I go for the top tier insane model?
00:45:35
Speaker
I. There's no I in team.
00:45:37
Speaker
This is a we.
00:45:39
Speaker
Listen, that's true.
00:45:39
Speaker
That is true.
00:45:40
Speaker
But Sarah is giving me a 10.
00:45:41
Speaker
That's like a half a fourth grader salary right there.
00:45:45
Speaker
I know it is.
00:45:46
Speaker
It's like half a year.
00:45:48
Speaker
Sarah's working like 90 days of the school year just to pay for that game.
00:45:52
Speaker
If I break it down to the number of hours that I have to spend with 25 nine-year-olds, you are not going to be willing to trade with me.
00:46:01
Speaker
Okay?
00:46:02
Speaker
So we have a 10 pinball limit in our house.
00:46:04
Speaker
So you have to sell some to get one.
00:46:07
Speaker
And we have 10 right now.
00:46:08
Speaker
So it would have to probably be a couple of games sold to...
00:46:12
Speaker
to convince her to get this.
00:46:13
Speaker
But hopefully there will be different tiers.
00:46:16
Speaker
And I usually am just as happy with the LE than I would be with the CE, which is going to be still expensive.
00:46:22
Speaker
My heart, my thing is I have a really hard time buying something or even putting my name on a list for something before I've seen it.
00:46:31
Speaker
And we have done this one other time before with Wonka.
00:46:34
Speaker
And for me, Wonka was like as dream theme as Harry Potter.
00:46:39
Speaker
I was so excited.
00:46:41
Speaker
I was all in.
00:46:42
Speaker
I was like, I don't care what it costs.
00:46:43
Speaker
Put our name on the list.
00:46:44
Speaker
We're going to get a Wonka.
00:46:46
Speaker
And I just remember that reveal.
00:46:47
Speaker
And I, I think I cried.
00:46:51
Speaker
You were definitely a little bit less enthused than I was.
00:46:55
Speaker
I was just, my expectations in my heart were so big.
00:46:59
Speaker
And then we saw the game and I was like, oh man, I just felt so let down.
00:47:04
Speaker
And I am just very guarded from that happening again, because I feel like this is another dream theme for me.
00:47:11
Speaker
And I just want to see...
00:47:14
Speaker
I don't know if I would want to design this pinball machine.
00:47:18
Speaker
I know.
00:47:18
Speaker
Because it is high pressure.
00:47:22
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:47:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:22
Speaker
Okay, Josh, in or out?
00:47:26
Speaker
I don't know yet.
00:47:27
Speaker
Like I was saying, we were doing the math, right?
00:47:28
Speaker
It's another 24 months at the very least before it even shows.
00:47:33
Speaker
That's at the very least.
00:47:34
Speaker
If it's Richie, that's another nine months.
00:47:36
Speaker
That's 33 months.
00:47:38
Speaker
My son will be driving by then.
00:47:39
Speaker
He'll be in high school.
00:47:41
Speaker
He can go pick up the game.
00:47:42
Speaker
He can drive to pick it up.
00:47:44
Speaker
It's hard to tell.
00:47:45
Speaker
There's going to be two L ones out in that time.
00:47:47
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:47:49
Speaker
I'm getting more and more of I want to play the game more than I want to enjoy the theme.
00:47:54
Speaker
Godzilla has proven that time and time again.
00:47:57
Speaker
I'm out until I see it.
00:47:58
Speaker
That's how I feel.
00:47:59
Speaker
I agree with that.
00:48:01
Speaker
Okay.
00:48:01
Speaker
Well, then you need to make a phone call.
00:48:03
Speaker
I am actually...
00:48:09
Speaker
I am a child of Star Wars.
00:48:10
Speaker
Like it came out in like the sweet spot of my growing up.
00:48:15
Speaker
Like the first episode came out when I was three years old.
00:48:19
Speaker
So three until nine years old.
00:48:23
Speaker
That was when Star Wars came out for me and the real Star Wars movies, not the crappy money grab movies.
00:48:29
Speaker
Okay.
00:48:29
Speaker
Okay.
00:48:30
Speaker
So when those came out, that was my dream theme.
00:48:33
Speaker
So when I heard Stern was making a star Wars game, I said, put me in for an L E. I want that game.
00:48:44
Speaker
And when it was released and I looked at it,
00:48:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:49
Speaker
And I backed out.
00:48:50
Speaker
I mean, yeah.
00:48:51
Speaker
Because it wasn't what I... It did not meet my expectations.
00:48:57
Speaker
And to be fair, I've played it a few times and I don't like the game.
00:49:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:03
Speaker
And I would hate it if I bought it just for the theme.
00:49:05
Speaker
So I'm in the, I need to play it or see it first to find out if it meets my expectations of what Harry Potter would be.
00:49:14
Speaker
And I'm not also a...
00:49:17
Speaker
I'm not a huge Harry Potter guy.
00:49:19
Speaker
Like I read the books.
00:49:20
Speaker
I appreciate him.
00:49:21
Speaker
I watched all the movies up until the fifth one.
00:49:27
Speaker
And when the kids were like beating these special forces wizards by like an afterschool club where they learned how to like crochet and make wand trinkets.
00:49:40
Speaker
I'm like, are you kidding me?
00:49:42
Speaker
There's no way.
00:49:44
Speaker
So that was where it lost me on that one.
00:49:46
Speaker
But it's, I don't know.
00:49:50
Speaker
So it's a challenging thing to me.
00:49:52
Speaker
I could totally do it.
00:49:53
Speaker
I also have a feeling that
00:49:56
Speaker
And I hope this doesn't sound bad.
00:50:02
Speaker
It will.
00:50:03
Speaker
Godfather, it feels it's a beautiful game.
00:50:09
Speaker
The way that they presented it and the lights, it felt a little bit like it would fit right on the floor.
00:50:16
Speaker
And Wonka was the same way.
00:50:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:19
Speaker
And, and so that vibe was like, this looks like something that would be in, you know, kind of a vibe of a slot machine or a ticket redemption or something.
00:50:28
Speaker
And, and I'm not sure that's, that's really what I'm going for personally, but I know that I'm not every demographic or every, you know, every market.
00:50:39
Speaker
And so this may be one of those games.
00:50:43
Speaker
I, I'm not, I, I'm probably not getting it.
00:50:46
Speaker
And that's fine.
00:50:46
Speaker
I mean, I think there won't,
00:50:48
Speaker
The one thing that Harry Potter will always have for it is a built-in market.
00:50:53
Speaker
This is not like Galactic Tank Force where you have to sell people on the theme.
00:50:56
Speaker
This is a theme that the vast majority of people are going to like.
00:50:59
Speaker
And guys like Scott, I mean, there's plenty of people out there who are not going to be all in on this, just like there are people out there who are not in on Toy Story.
00:51:07
Speaker
But it is a killer license.
00:51:11
Speaker
There are very few licenses out there that are like Star Wars or Harry Potter.
00:51:16
Speaker
that just have a insane fan base, rabid fan base that will probably buy things sight unseen or, you know, who don't know a lot about pinball, who will just be in on it strictly because of the theme.
00:51:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:29
Speaker
Well, and I wouldn't be opposed to if they even did like what we've seen with Jurassic Park, what we've seen with Godzilla.
00:51:35
Speaker
really what Keith's been doing of you get put into the world versus you're following the storyline of the movies.
00:51:40
Speaker
So, I mean, there's so, the problem is, is we don't know any direction.
00:51:45
Speaker
We just know it's Harry Potter.
00:51:45
Speaker
We know nothing more.
00:51:47
Speaker
Exactly.
00:51:48
Speaker
And so this actually begs the question, it releasing now, we know it is not coming anytime soon.
00:51:56
Speaker
Yes.
00:51:57
Speaker
Right.
00:51:58
Speaker
Fair.
00:51:58
Speaker
Is that fair?
00:51:59
Speaker
Can we agree that we're probably not going to see it for at least two years?
00:52:02
Speaker
I think you're right.
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:03
Speaker
Okay.
00:52:05
Speaker
Okay, so does this leak help or hurt pinball?
00:52:15
Speaker
Was it a brilliant move or was it a drunken text?
00:52:16
Speaker
Is that what you're trying to say?
00:52:18
Speaker
All press is good press.
00:52:19
Speaker
I mean, listen, that's true as well.
00:52:21
Speaker
Is it though?
00:52:23
Speaker
Because sometimes if you release it, and this is kind of where Wizard of Oz got into this, Hobbit got into this, where they
00:52:33
Speaker
released it and people were like excited and then kind of the moment passed and then they had a hard time in general though right i mean you you see any game that releases regardless of the theme there's a super hype right before it comes out and people are either crazy for it or against it and then within a week or two the hype is dead um
00:52:56
Speaker
This is different.
00:52:57
Speaker
Harry Potter is like a completely different category than Foo Fighters, than Iron Maiden, than Rush, than Godzilla.
00:53:05
Speaker
This is a unicorn title.
00:53:08
Speaker
And so having that released, like, okay, I'm going to put it out there.
00:53:15
Speaker
This is bad for pinball.
00:53:17
Speaker
This is terrible because I know some people say, oh, great, fine.
00:53:22
Speaker
Just buy a machine.
00:53:23
Speaker
Then you can sell it.
00:53:24
Speaker
Okay.
00:53:24
Speaker
I'm one of those guys that hate selling games.
00:53:26
Speaker
And it's not that I'm really super attached to the game.
00:53:31
Speaker
It's just selling a game is such a pain in my rump.
00:53:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:35
Speaker
Because trying to find like someone who's like, okay, we all know what this is worth.
00:53:39
Speaker
If you want to come pick it up, great.
00:53:40
Speaker
If you don't want to pick it up, fine.
00:53:41
Speaker
But that's, but I, I don't want to go through the hassle of listing a game and getting people like, well, would you take, it's like buying a car or, yeah, I mean,
00:53:52
Speaker
Right.
00:53:52
Speaker
And it's like, I hate- My mother's on hospice.
00:53:54
Speaker
Can you please take $1,500?
00:53:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:57
Speaker
Ooh.
00:53:59
Speaker
Okay.
00:53:59
Speaker
That's out there now.
00:54:01
Speaker
That was a negotiating tactic that legitimately happened.
00:54:04
Speaker
And I was like, what are you talking about?
00:54:06
Speaker
Like, you're serious?
00:54:08
Speaker
You're leveraging the passing of your mother to ask for $500 off?
00:54:12
Speaker
I mean, that's super messed up.
00:54:13
Speaker
$1,500.
00:54:13
Speaker
Yeah, that was messed up.
00:54:14
Speaker
That's super messed up.
00:54:17
Speaker
Tell me going through a rough time.
00:54:19
Speaker
Please donate.
00:54:19
Speaker
Bring it back to why this is bad for the ball and how it affects pricing and that sort of thing.
00:54:24
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:26
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:26
Speaker
How does that affect?
00:54:27
Speaker
Okay.
Impact of Frequent Pinball Releases
00:54:28
Speaker
One, license.
00:54:29
Speaker
I guarantee this was not approved by the Harry.
00:54:33
Speaker
Licensors are very jealous, right?
00:54:37
Speaker
Of how they control the message.
00:54:39
Speaker
and when it gets released and when, okay, some licenses are more.
00:54:44
Speaker
Maybe Bonds licenses.
00:54:45
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:46
Speaker
All right.
00:54:46
Speaker
Definitely Bonds licenses.
00:54:48
Speaker
However, when you put out this unicorn title, it's not available for two years.
00:54:56
Speaker
And then there will be at least four or five Stern games that will be available.
00:55:04
Speaker
there will probably be two Jersey Jack games.
00:55:08
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:55:09
Speaker
I think it's bad for Jersey Jack.
00:55:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:11
Speaker
Probably.
00:55:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:13
Speaker
And so, and people are like, well, I was thinking of buying Godfather, but would I rather have Godfather or Harry Potter?
00:55:20
Speaker
Well, I think I'd rather have Harry Potter.
00:55:22
Speaker
And so I'm not going to buy the Godfather machine.
00:55:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:25
Speaker
And Jersey Jack machines,
00:55:27
Speaker
Typically they have, they really shot for the moon in raising their prices.
00:55:32
Speaker
And I've gone, I I've said over and over again, that toy story, I think they miscalculated the market and miscalculated the draw of toy story four.
00:55:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:42
Speaker
And I, I, my personal feeling is that their sales significantly suffered.
00:55:49
Speaker
And so people are buying them and then three months later, they're selling them at a hundred or sorry, $2,000 losses because they're trying to move the game.
00:55:57
Speaker
And so if people are like, well, I'm not sure I want to take that.
00:56:00
Speaker
So I think it's really bad for Jersey Jack.
00:56:03
Speaker
because their games are hard to leverage.
00:56:08
Speaker
Sterns typically hold their value.
00:56:09
Speaker
I'm not sure as much- Sure, if you're looking at it from a business standpoint, yes.
00:56:12
Speaker
I mean, it's definitely a hit, but Pimp,
00:56:15
Speaker
I know Joe's a business guy.
00:56:17
Speaker
Like he may like the guy prints money.
00:56:21
Speaker
So this should not be an emotional move for him.
00:56:24
Speaker
This should be a casual business move.
00:56:26
Speaker
This was a drunk post, man.
00:56:27
Speaker
The equivalent of a drunk post.
00:56:29
Speaker
He was his emotions were very tied up in this.
00:56:31
Speaker
I imagine because he had he had been working on this for so long.
00:56:35
Speaker
Right.
00:56:36
Speaker
A woman.
00:56:36
Speaker
And when when Jersey Jack takes the title from him, he no longer has the the glory of.
00:56:42
Speaker
And if he doesn't have skin in the game anymore, it doesn't hurt him.
00:56:47
Speaker
And I don't think it hurts Stern.
00:56:49
Speaker
And Cameco also has enough money that he can get away with this stuff.
00:56:53
Speaker
Honestly, it's not going to impact him all that much.
00:56:57
Speaker
But it will affect business relationships.
00:56:59
Speaker
It's certainly not going to make the Jersey Jack people happy.
00:57:03
Speaker
Yeah, but you know what?
00:57:04
Speaker
They just took this game out from under him.
00:57:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:07
Speaker
If that's really what happened, I'm sorry.
00:57:10
Speaker
That affects business relationships too.
00:57:12
Speaker
And we can understand why he would be upset about that.
00:57:13
Speaker
But honestly, Scott, I mean, pinheads in general are always attracted by the new shiny.
00:57:19
Speaker
I've heard this theory time and time again that people will wait to buy.
00:57:22
Speaker
But we have seen people just throw money like crazy.
00:57:26
Speaker
Some of the people who are so wealthy in this hobby, they do not care.
00:57:29
Speaker
They will buy literally everything that comes out whenever it comes out.
00:57:32
Speaker
And they don't feel the same way that you and I do about selling games where
00:57:35
Speaker
You hate doing it because you just don't want to do it.
00:57:38
Speaker
They just sell it and they can probably take a loss on it and it's not a big deal.
00:57:41
Speaker
So I think when Harry Potter comes out, it's going to be such a huge seller and pinheads for the next two years are going to forget about this until it pops back up and they're going to be buying everything else that's coming.
00:57:52
Speaker
I mean, this market is not slowing down, at least from a new in box standpoint.
00:57:56
Speaker
No, I mean, and you think about like the fact that every game that Elwin has made has been...
00:58:03
Speaker
amazing and people are going to be buying those games too I feel like this is potentially bad for Jersey Jack only because if you are going to only have one Jersey Jack machine then maybe you do want to wait for Harry Potter but I do think that
00:58:21
Speaker
But Jersey Jack now has a million designers, right?
00:58:23
Speaker
So if they start to lose interest, just like in Toy Story, if they start to lose interest in that and sales slump, they just release a new title.
00:58:31
Speaker
I have no doubt that they have two or three games in the shoot ready to launch.
00:58:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:39
Speaker
So, and that brings up a really good point as well, because when the first person, like when we first heard this, it was like, it's a drunken text and it's terrible for everyone.
00:58:46
Speaker
Like it's going to take a hit to the pinball industry and people are going to hold onto their money.
00:58:50
Speaker
But I actually think it was kind of a brilliant move on Joe's part, whether if it was a drunken text or not.
00:58:56
Speaker
And the reason being is, I haven't heard much hype for Venom.
00:59:01
Speaker
And we know Venom's the next one coming.
00:59:03
Speaker
It was supposed to be here last summer.
00:59:04
Speaker
Everyone's like, why was it?
00:59:07
Speaker
Random Aussie and Todd McFarlane mashup at the Stern booth in Comic-Con was totally normal.
00:59:13
Speaker
Yeah, totally normal.
00:59:15
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:16
Speaker
It's weird.
00:59:17
Speaker
And so regardless of Venom was going to be a big hit or not, I don't see this announcement affecting that.
00:59:26
Speaker
And we're all going to really not care because –
00:59:29
Speaker
L1's in the pipeline after that, right?
00:59:30
Speaker
Like based off of designers that have released product, L1's up after that, right?
00:59:36
Speaker
So it's just, I don't, I know people saying like, it takes money off the table, but really we're back to pre-COVID times where the hit, you know, as soon as it comes out, it's a hit.
00:59:49
Speaker
it's good for maybe six months, then we see the slump off.
00:59:53
Speaker
And so does this really, with this announcement hitting right now, the only thing it's really going to affect is venom.
01:00:01
Speaker
And I just don't see it doing that.
01:00:03
Speaker
The other part, too, is Harry Potter is such a – I mean, we've seen this with JJP for a while now.
01:00:09
Speaker
They do usually a kid theme and then like an adult theme and then a kid theme and an adult theme.
01:00:14
Speaker
I just don't see Harry Potter affecting the cells of Elton John.
01:00:18
Speaker
You're two different demographics at that point.
01:00:20
Speaker
Okay, you're dealing with grandpas.
01:00:22
Speaker
And grandpas have grandkids.
01:00:25
Speaker
True, but grandpas are more than likely going to buy them both because they have the expendable cash where our families are probably not going to be buying Elton John and Harry Potter because I don't know about you, but Elton John was fairly old when I was in high school.
01:00:42
Speaker
I don't know about you guys, but.
01:00:44
Speaker
We're only a decade apart.
01:00:45
Speaker
Way to rub it in.
01:00:46
Speaker
No, I'll just call this all old man.
01:00:48
Speaker
That's definitely just I mean, honestly, holy cow.
01:00:53
Speaker
Sorry.
01:00:55
Speaker
I love you, Josh.
01:00:56
Speaker
But yes, we're good.
01:00:58
Speaker
I feel like it's okay.
01:01:02
Speaker
I got a clean bill.
01:01:03
Speaker
Hey, nice work, man.
01:01:04
Speaker
Nice work.
01:01:06
Speaker
But my but my point being is, is like, we do have to take demographics heavily into this because
01:01:12
Speaker
any distributor will tell you it's all about theme.
01:01:15
Speaker
I guarantee all the 12 year olds will be buying this.
01:01:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:19
Speaker
I don't, I, I doubt it's not that though.
01:01:23
Speaker
It's like, I doubt people are gonna be like, I'm not buying Harry Potter because you know, Venom is just,
01:01:29
Speaker
There's a lot of demographic split.
01:01:30
Speaker
I think you're right.
01:01:31
Speaker
I mean, obviously no kid is going to buy a pinball machine.
01:01:34
Speaker
But if you have kids, then 40, 50-year-old guys with expendable cash or women, they're going to buy these things.
01:01:41
Speaker
You're going to buy a theme that fits well in your household.
01:01:45
Speaker
And we are – I think the pinball demographic –
01:01:49
Speaker
of 40 and 50 year old, you know, people at this point have kids who are going to be into Harry Potter, and they themselves grew up with Harry Potter.
01:01:58
Speaker
So it's a double whammy.
01:02:00
Speaker
You've hit both, you know, both areas.
01:02:04
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:05
Speaker
So I don't think it affects Harry Potter sales really at all.
01:02:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:09
Speaker
When it comes out, it's going to sell 5,000.
01:02:12
Speaker
And I hope they just don't limit it when they say limited edition.
01:02:16
Speaker
I hope they put 20,000 on there.
01:02:19
Speaker
And I hope they sell 20,000 legit.
01:02:22
Speaker
Do you think that they bring back the standard just for this so they can get it on the location?
01:02:26
Speaker
Or do you think they just say, Hey, it is what it is.
01:02:28
Speaker
Maybe.
01:02:28
Speaker
Maybe.
01:02:30
Speaker
that this certainly would be something that would go on location.
01:02:33
Speaker
I think it would be smart to do a standard.
01:02:35
Speaker
And the reason being is, is yes, you want that location demographic, but if you don't want to undermine what you've done with your price increase with guns and roses and toy story, you come out with that third edition.
01:02:46
Speaker
So you still get the lower cost.
01:02:47
Speaker
B 12, five, your LE B 17, five, but then you're not,
01:02:55
Speaker
You're not backing off.
01:02:56
Speaker
You're not backing off.
01:02:57
Speaker
You're not essentially saying, yeah, we jumped the gun and raised our prices too high.
01:03:00
Speaker
It gives you an out to not say that you screwed up, but then you're still giving a cheaper option to hit that demographic.
01:03:09
Speaker
What are you guys thinking price-wise for this?
01:03:10
Speaker
The upper model.
01:03:11
Speaker
Too much is what I'm thinking.
01:03:15
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:16
Speaker
Exactly.
01:03:16
Speaker
I agree.
01:03:17
Speaker
I'm not kidding.
01:03:19
Speaker
I think by the time this comes out.
01:03:21
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:22
Speaker
I don't think you're wrong, man.
01:03:23
Speaker
I don't think you're wrong.
01:03:26
Speaker
I think it's 25 for the CE.
01:03:30
Speaker
And I think the LE will be 18.
01:03:36
Speaker
I think it'll be 18.
01:03:39
Speaker
Because add another two years into it.
01:03:41
Speaker
And if they do like an SE, then probably at 25.
01:03:44
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:45
Speaker
It's insane.
01:03:47
Speaker
I don't.
01:03:48
Speaker
I think they actually stay at the same price.
01:03:50
Speaker
I think the reason being is the bubble is deflating at the moment, and we're seeing the used market come down really hard right now.
01:03:58
Speaker
And so I think your main market is going to have to fight the – it comes back to pre-COVID.
01:04:04
Speaker
We were all like, well, do I buy a brand-new premium or do I buy two used Stearns for the same price?
01:04:11
Speaker
And especially where the pros are – I mean, you can get a pro –
01:04:15
Speaker
Jurassic Park and Iron Maiden for brand new
01:04:18
Speaker
JJP.
01:04:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:04:21
Speaker
I think that plays a lot into it.
01:04:23
Speaker
It's going to be hard.
01:04:23
Speaker
It's hard to look into our crystal ball because we're so far out on this.
01:04:27
Speaker
And with the crescendo of where we're going, it's hard to tell.
01:04:32
Speaker
It's a very valid point.
01:04:33
Speaker
We got to see where it all goes.
01:04:35
Speaker
I still think no matter what, it's going to be too expensive.
01:04:39
Speaker
I can't help it.
01:04:40
Speaker
I am a teacher.
01:04:41
Speaker
This is something that you cannot afford.
01:04:44
Speaker
I'm with you, Sarah.
01:04:46
Speaker
I'm with you.
01:04:47
Speaker
I think that there's, this is, I'm getting to the point where I used to buy LEs and now I'm looking at every premium.
01:04:54
Speaker
I'm like, oh, do I buy that for, and that's still sub $10,000.
01:04:59
Speaker
Regardless of where the pricing goes, I mean, the sheer volume of, you know, orders are going to have to get to pay off the licensing fees for this are through the roof.
01:05:11
Speaker
Either they're going to sell in bulk or they're going to sell at really high costs just to cover that.
01:05:16
Speaker
Or both.
01:05:19
Speaker
Stern does volume.
01:05:21
Speaker
Stern does volume.
01:05:22
Speaker
JJP does higher margins.
01:05:26
Speaker
And so that's what I'm kind of wondering.
01:05:29
Speaker
On a title like this, you kind of want it out to the masses.
01:05:35
Speaker
But you may want to consider... I will actually revisit this when it comes out and say my prediction for price was accurate.
01:05:44
Speaker
I don't think you're way off at all.
01:05:46
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Especially for the upper model.
01:05:48
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I would, I really hope that they do come down for like the LE and the pro and have a very accessible thing.
01:06:00
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So this can get out because this is such a, such a huge drop.
01:06:06
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It's like beloved people.
01:06:08
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Yeah, this isn't a Bond 60th.
01:06:11
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No, this is not a Bond 60th.
01:06:13
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Yeah, this is something that is definitely different.
01:06:16
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Only time will tell, gentlemen.
01:06:18
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Only time will tell.
01:06:19
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When I started in the hobby, there were a couple titles that I was like, I must have this game.
01:06:23
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This was one of them.
01:06:25
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We just need to check Goonies off the list and then we'll be good.
01:06:30
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And Goonies.
01:06:32
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I legit don't get Goonies.
01:06:34
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I saw it once as a kid and I know everybody loved the Goonies and I was like, I don't get it.
01:06:40
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Part of me is Back to the Future 2.
01:06:43
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If you're going to make Back to the Future, trash the last two.
01:06:46
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It's definitely the better movie, but you got to get them all in there.
01:06:50
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No, I don't need them all.
01:06:54
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I don't need a train chase, okay?
01:06:58
Speaker
I'm just ready for Mario.
01:07:02
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Oh my gosh.
01:07:03
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Did you guys?
01:07:04
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Oh, I released on VOD today.
01:07:07
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So now you can, if you want to pay the money, that's right.
01:07:09
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Watch it at home.
01:07:10
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You can.
01:07:11
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Okay.
01:07:11
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It was, it was such a good movie.
01:07:13
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I took my kids to it and it's so amazing.
01:07:16
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This is where I'm, this is where I'm slightly jaded.
01:07:19
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I'm like,
01:07:19
Speaker
You know, it's so weird when Hollywood makes a movie that people want to take their family to.
01:07:26
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It makes a boatload of money.
01:07:28
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Don't hit me on that song.
01:07:29
Speaker
Why don't we have more?
01:07:31
Speaker
Peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches.
01:07:34
Speaker
It's so
Potential Projects and Cultural Impact
01:07:35
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good.
01:07:35
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Oh, my God.
01:07:35
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Yeah.
01:07:40
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And having Jack Black do that was so great.
01:07:42
Speaker
That would make an epic pinball machine.
01:07:44
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Like the voice characters were so good.
01:07:47
Speaker
And Redemption, right?
01:07:48
Speaker
For the crappy movie we all grew up with.
01:07:51
Speaker
It finally redeemed the Mario franchise.
01:07:57
Speaker
Okay, what about the cartoon with like Serena Lopper in it?
01:08:01
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Back from the 80s.
01:08:02
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:08:04
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Side note, though.
01:08:04
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Did you know that Peaches is the same chords and same chord progression as Rick's Astley is never going to give you up?
01:08:12
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If you put them to.
01:08:14
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I figured it'd be something from Samacious D. Pick of Destiny, man.
01:08:17
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That's awesome.
01:08:18
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Yeah.
01:08:20
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Cause it's the pick.
01:08:22
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Yeah.
01:08:22
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Well, that was, that was a good summary of the, the Harry Potter, you know, drama that's going on right now.
01:08:31
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Yeah.
01:08:32
Speaker
I do suspect it was a, a, a drunken spurn text.
01:08:37
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As soon as I saw it, that's the first thing I said, I was like, Whoa, someone's pissed.
01:08:40
Speaker
And so.
01:08:41
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Yeah.
01:08:46
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on mother's day of all mother's day exactly hey you know what some family trust me there are some families where i don't drink but i would consider joe had the mother-in-law over and they were sitting around the dinner table having a drink and she's like so joe how's the hurry how's the licensing going well let me tell you let me just hammer out this text real quick exactly hold on hold my beer
01:09:13
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I'll show you who's still a good son-in-law.
01:09:15
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Yeah, exactly.
01:09:17
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I'll prove my worth.
01:09:20
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Oh my goodness.
01:09:21
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Honestly, I have other notes, but we're kind of running out of time.
01:09:24
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Okay.
01:09:24
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I do.
01:09:25
Speaker
I do have a question though, and I'm totally jealous.
01:09:28
Speaker
The triple drain guys go listen to them.
01:09:30
Speaker
They, they talked about Harry Potter today too.
01:09:35
Speaker
They have a lunchbox.
01:09:37
Speaker
Yes.
01:09:38
Speaker
Who has a lunchbox?
01:09:39
Speaker
You're talking about a tank?
01:09:40
Speaker
I kind of do too.
01:09:41
Speaker
Triple drain.
01:09:43
Speaker
Triple drain.
01:09:44
Speaker
They did like one of those like hydro lunchboxes with all three of their heads.
01:09:48
Speaker
Like one of those old tin ones?
01:09:50
Speaker
Yes.
01:09:51
Speaker
Yeah, I know.
01:09:51
Speaker
And a golf towel.
01:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
01:09:53
Speaker
I will say that your swag game is on point.
01:09:56
Speaker
Like I used to think that Sarah's swag game was on point until you guys hit the scene.
01:10:01
Speaker
You've got hats.
01:10:02
Speaker
You have lunchboxes.
01:10:04
Speaker
Or not lunchboxes.
01:10:04
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You have, okay.
01:10:05
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Of course, I'm good.
01:10:07
Speaker
I still have some of the earrings that Sarah made for me.
01:10:10
Speaker
Like I don't wear them because I don't have pierced ears.
01:10:12
Speaker
You could change that someday.
01:10:13
Speaker
Speaking of which.
01:10:16
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Oh, look at that.
01:10:17
Speaker
I saw those in the rainbow ones and I saw the backpack and I was like, Christian, these are excellent Christmas ideas.
01:10:22
Speaker
Yes.
01:10:23
Speaker
The backpack in the rainbow.
01:10:25
Speaker
I was torn between the rainbow sneakers and the teal sneakers because I really love teal.
01:10:30
Speaker
Like I really love it.
01:10:31
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So I feel like I would have gone with the rainbow backpack, the teal sneakers, the goat shirt, the, uh, I forget what else was on there, but I was making a shopping list.
01:10:41
Speaker
Well, honey, there are, um, fabric patterns.
01:10:44
Speaker
There is a, uh,
01:10:47
Speaker
Yeah, you can get your own fabric.
01:10:48
Speaker
You can make a dress.
01:10:49
Speaker
You got stainless steel tumblers.
01:10:51
Speaker
They have unisex joggers.
01:10:53
Speaker
I mean, anything really you want.
01:10:55
Speaker
What's a unisex jogger?
01:10:56
Speaker
Shorts, man.
01:10:57
Speaker
Oh.
01:10:59
Speaker
Jogging pants.
01:11:00
Speaker
Yes.
01:11:01
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Okay.
01:11:01
Speaker
I was thinking of like one of those wrestling.
01:11:03
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That was kind of what I was picturing in my head as well.
01:11:06
Speaker
Man, I could, you could like make a bathing suit out of that.
01:11:09
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That would be crazy.
01:11:12
Speaker
That'd be awesome.
01:11:13
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Yeah.
01:11:13
Speaker
It made me chuckle because Will had messaged me after listening to our last episode and he's like, dude,
01:11:18
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I'm shortening that link.
01:11:19
Speaker
So it's actually just silverballswag.com slash loserkid now.
01:11:23
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He's like, that was a mouthful.
01:11:24
Speaker
I don't think anyone was ever going to find it the way you guys are type.
01:11:27
Speaker
We'll just do slash loserkid.
01:11:28
Speaker
But if you just go to Silverball Swag, Loser Kid has the main page.
01:11:32
Speaker
It's your...
01:11:34
Speaker
I don't know if Keith Elwin gets royalties for your goat shirts.
01:11:41
Speaker
That's awesome.
01:11:43
Speaker
I will say we did send him the thing and we're like, Hey, we're thinking of this.
01:11:48
Speaker
I want to achieve like the, the Zen coolness at some point in my life.
01:11:57
Speaker
It will never happen, but at some point it would be
Audience Demographics and Merchandise
01:12:00
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great.
01:12:00
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So I have some interesting statistics.
01:12:02
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We actually 80% of our demographic is males and 20% is females.
01:12:08
Speaker
Oh, man.
01:12:08
Speaker
Listening demographic.
01:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, sorry.
01:12:09
Speaker
Listening demographic.
01:12:11
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Yet, our buying demographic is 80% female.
01:12:16
Speaker
Yeah.
01:12:17
Speaker
And 20% male.
01:12:17
Speaker
Pinball for the ladies.
01:12:19
Speaker
Let's do it.
01:12:19
Speaker
And it's all the shoes.
01:12:20
Speaker
It's the shoes.
01:12:21
Speaker
The shoes are awesome.
01:12:22
Speaker
The shoes are amazing.
01:12:23
Speaker
Like, amazing.
01:12:25
Speaker
Okay.
01:12:26
Speaker
I still need to get my shoes.
01:12:27
Speaker
So, absolutely.
01:12:29
Speaker
I can't do the Vans, though.
01:12:30
Speaker
Because when I was a kid in the 80s, I swear –
01:12:34
Speaker
I've been able to circle back, man.
01:12:36
Speaker
I told my kids told me they wanted Crocs.
01:12:38
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I was like, guys, guys, no, like Crocs are not cool.
01:12:41
Speaker
Not cool.
01:12:42
Speaker
Yeah.
01:12:42
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
01:12:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:12:45
Speaker
So my son got the reds.
01:12:46
Speaker
I got the laces and he wanted to slip off.
01:12:49
Speaker
Okay.
01:12:50
Speaker
Cause I'm getting the red laces.
01:12:51
Speaker
That's that's, I still haven't ordered, but that's what I'm getting.
01:12:54
Speaker
So.
01:12:54
Speaker
But I'm probably getting her backpack too.
01:12:56
Speaker
Maybe a blue backpack.
01:12:57
Speaker
I was shocked at how soft they are too.
01:12:59
Speaker
They actually feel good on the feet.
01:13:01
Speaker
Yeah.
01:13:02
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I do have that as well.
01:13:03
Speaker
And they fit what?
01:13:03
Speaker
True to size, right, Josh?
01:13:05
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True to size, yes.
01:13:05
Speaker
I was also calculating because I think that they say men's shoes.
01:13:09
Speaker
Am I right?
01:13:10
Speaker
So just don't forget, ladies, that you got to order two sizes smaller, right?
01:13:16
Speaker
So if I am a seven in women's, I need a five in men's.
01:13:20
Speaker
There you go.
01:13:21
Speaker
You know what I mean?
01:13:22
Speaker
Isn't there a women's and men's office?
01:13:24
Speaker
I don't know.
01:13:24
Speaker
I didn't look.
01:13:24
Speaker
All I saw were the men's.
01:13:26
Speaker
Oh, that's awesome.
01:13:27
Speaker
Super cool, man.
01:13:30
Speaker
I'm actually pretty sure that there's women's and men's.
01:13:33
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I'm sorry.
01:13:33
Speaker
I didn't mean to misreport.
01:13:35
Speaker
I just saw the giant men's shoes when I opened up the thing.
01:13:40
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Yes, there is men's and female shoes.
01:13:43
Speaker
These guys have their bases covered.
01:13:45
Speaker
They're on it.
01:13:47
Speaker
Yeah, no, we're good.
01:13:48
Speaker
We're good.
01:13:49
Speaker
We're down with all demographics.
01:13:51
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Yes.
01:13:51
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See, there's men's lace-up canvas, women's lace-up canvas, the men's slip-on canvas, and women's slip-on canvas.
01:13:57
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That's a tough call, man.
01:13:58
Speaker
I think I'd have to go with the slip-ons, but that's tough.
01:14:04
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I love the lace look.
01:14:05
Speaker
I love the lace look.
01:14:07
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I like the lace look as well.
01:14:08
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I'm very happy with mine, and they are a conversation starter.
01:14:12
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I've worn them out.
01:14:14
Speaker
It's funny because my wife has officially said,
01:14:15
Speaker
You're not going to wear it on Monday night.
01:14:18
Speaker
Because we get stopped and people are like, those shoes are sweet.
01:14:23
Speaker
I will say we had like a church outing and it was one of those things where write down something about you and people try to guess.
01:14:30
Speaker
What I wrote down is I have a customized shoe and shirt line.
01:14:35
Speaker
And you're not lying.
01:14:37
Speaker
You're not lying.
01:14:38
Speaker
You're not Kanye, but at least you do have a line.
01:14:40
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You do.
01:14:41
Speaker
Yeah.
01:14:42
Speaker
You do.
01:14:43
Speaker
Yep.
01:14:44
Speaker
Yeah.
01:14:45
Speaker
I hope I'm in the company's statement.
01:14:48
Speaker
I don't know who designs all your fabrics and stuff, but they do an amazing job.
01:14:53
Speaker
Amazing.
01:14:55
Speaker
Amazing.
01:14:55
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Yep.
01:14:56
Speaker
Kudos, man.
01:14:57
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You guys.
01:14:58
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Well, that was Brad Albright.
01:14:59
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We commissioned that and Brad made it for us.
01:15:01
Speaker
It's so good.
01:15:04
Speaker
And then he was the one that was brilliant and said, just use typical pinball imagery.
01:15:09
Speaker
And we were the ones that were like, can we throw in Keith somehow as a goat?
01:15:13
Speaker
And he's like, sold.
01:15:14
Speaker
That took convincing, huh?
01:15:16
Speaker
It's amazing.
01:15:18
Speaker
Totally amazing.
01:15:19
Speaker
I love it so, so much.
01:15:20
Speaker
The swag game is so strong.
01:15:22
Speaker
Yeah, for sure.
01:15:25
Speaker
So if you want people to get a hold of you, Christian and Sarah, how do they do that?
01:15:29
Speaker
Just hit us up at Allentown Pin Fest next year.
01:15:31
Speaker
We'll be right at the tournaments.
01:15:34
Speaker
No, we are kind of out of the game, guys.
01:15:36
Speaker
We don't have a pinball podcast anymore.
01:15:39
Speaker
Oh, I still have a pinball email.
01:15:41
Speaker
Yeah?
01:15:41
Speaker
You know
Podcast Gratitude and Future Plans
01:15:42
Speaker
what it is?
01:15:42
Speaker
It's wompwompbaby at gmail.com.
01:15:47
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:48
Speaker
True story.
01:15:50
Speaker
Nice.
01:15:51
Speaker
What you need to do with the lines, though, is hit them up for their Christmas cards.
01:15:55
Speaker
These things are insanely cool.
01:15:57
Speaker
And my wife is always happy.
01:15:59
Speaker
She's like, oh, I wonder what they're doing this year with their Christmas card.
01:16:03
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We just made a standard card.
01:16:05
Speaker
Usually we do two cards.
01:16:06
Speaker
We do a pinball card and then we do a regular card.
01:16:09
Speaker
But we bailed on the pinball one last year.
01:16:11
Speaker
But we got to bring it back.
01:16:13
Speaker
Oh, man.
01:16:13
Speaker
All right.
01:16:14
Speaker
I'm surprised that we got ours out.
01:16:17
Speaker
I think we got them out.
01:16:18
Speaker
I think my wife told me about that.
01:16:20
Speaker
But we were in the middle of renovations and living in the basement.
01:16:23
Speaker
I wasn't even playing my machines because there were so many boxes in front of them.
01:16:26
Speaker
That's rough.
01:16:27
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:28
Speaker
Well, we want to be on your list.
01:16:30
Speaker
We love Christmas cards.
01:16:31
Speaker
We hang them all up in our kitchen.
01:16:33
Speaker
True.
01:16:34
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:35
Speaker
We, we hang them up.
01:16:36
Speaker
Guys, this was so much fun.
01:16:38
Speaker
Thank you for having us on.
01:16:39
Speaker
This was awesome.
01:16:41
Speaker
And we love talking pinball with you guys.
01:16:43
Speaker
And, uh, I don't know.
01:16:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:45
Speaker
Keep carrying the torch and doing amazing pinball interviews because you're one of the last few, uh, you know, podcasts that do it and, and do it really well.
01:16:53
Speaker
So we love hearing it.
01:16:54
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:55
Speaker
I think it's because I don't have a life.
01:16:57
Speaker
I don't have a life and Josh is really motivated to keep this going.
01:16:59
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So.
01:17:02
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I just enjoy doing this.
01:17:03
Speaker
I don't know.
01:17:04
Speaker
It's fun.
01:17:05
Speaker
It is.
01:17:05
Speaker
It is super fun.
01:17:06
Speaker
It opens doors.
01:17:07
Speaker
It makes you make so many friends.
01:17:09
Speaker
It is.
01:17:10
Speaker
It's just an awesome thing to do.
01:17:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:12
Speaker
Well, it was funny too because like we had that 99% invisible reach out because we do this.
01:17:16
Speaker
And they're like, we've heard Keith Elwin on your show.
01:17:19
Speaker
How do we get him on?
01:17:20
Speaker
And so.
01:17:21
Speaker
I worked with them because they're obviously a little bit bigger than us.
01:17:24
Speaker
I mean, what are they getting?
01:17:26
Speaker
Like 200,000 downloads within 24 hours?
01:17:29
Speaker
It's close to us.
01:17:31
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:31
Speaker
When you have 1.1 million subscribers just on the podcast side of things, not even through Apple, that's just through Android, you know you're doing something right.
01:17:43
Speaker
I was like, I will try to help you out a little bit.
01:17:48
Speaker
Oh, and also in case you are podcast only, we do have a YouTube link now so you can watch our faces talk.
01:17:55
Speaker
Yes.
01:17:56
Speaker
Please subscribe.
01:17:56
Speaker
So you get notifications, uh,
01:17:59
Speaker
I'm still trying to figure out how to edit the crap out of this.
01:18:01
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So it's new realm for me.
01:18:03
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I haven't done video editing since I was in high school, which was almost 20 years ago.
01:18:07
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So we, we'd cut the beta max when I was in high school.
01:18:10
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Don't age us.
01:18:12
Speaker
Wow.
01:18:13
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Eight track, baby.
01:18:15
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That's bad.
01:18:16
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Well, thank you, loser kids.
01:18:18
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We love you guys.
01:18:19
Speaker
And can't wait to hear that.
01:18:21
Speaker
We are working on a 3.0 hat.
01:18:24
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So we have a list.
01:18:26
Speaker
of hats but i'm wearing the old school i love the og right now i do i have it i wear it all the time and i have my winter hat i had to retire it because it's getting a little too hot for it but uh i rock that all winter it will come out next ski season yeah oh yeah nice come on out i i re-upped for passes yeah they live right by the slopes man we have to go man let's go hang with them 40 minutes it's terrible minutes
01:18:51
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If you want to get ahold of us, we are loser kid pinball podcast at gmail.com.
01:18:54
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You can get ahold of us on the socials at loser kid pinball on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube.
01:19:02
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Uh, and always shoot us a message.
01:19:05
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If, if you're bored or if you have a question, maybe it'll get read out online.
01:19:10
Speaker
Please tell us.
01:19:10
Speaker
So if you want it said publicly or privately, there's some messages we get.
01:19:13
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I'm like, I don't know if they want us to share this publicly.
01:19:16
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So, uh, yeah, just leave that in the title or whatnot.
01:19:19
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But yeah, Scott, you got anything else for us before we go?
01:19:23
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Yeah.
01:19:24
Speaker
Wow.
01:19:25
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Be really careful about what you text on the Mother's Day because it could end up being on podcasts.
01:19:29
Speaker
That's very good advice.
01:19:31
Speaker
Yes.
01:19:32
Speaker
If it hits the internet, it's forever, right?
01:19:34
Speaker
You can't take it down, but it's always out there.
01:19:36
Speaker
The internet is forever.
01:19:38
Speaker
Yep.
01:19:39
Speaker
It's true.
01:19:41
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It is, especially when there's screenshots.
01:19:43
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Oh, and pen heads are no rules.
01:19:45
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Click, click, immediate.
01:19:47
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Yeah.
01:19:48
Speaker
Yes.
01:19:48
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Immediate.
01:19:49
Speaker
Yeah.
01:19:51
Speaker
I think I got it reshared like within five seconds of Joe posting it.
01:19:56
Speaker
Well, I guess we'll see you guys in two weeks.
01:19:58
Speaker
Okay, later.
01:20:01
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Bye.
01:20:17
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Shut up and sit down.