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My First Kickstory With Gotee & Bobby Kicks
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This week I welcome two guest, GoTee and BobbyKicks to the podcast. We talk about each other their upbringings. How kicks brought them together, their path with kicks before meeting. The decision to start the Kickstory Podcast and their goal with the podcast. GoTee and BobbyKicks dynamic and how they share their experiences with each other. We also shed light on the differences of New York and Arizona and how sneaker culture is a part of us. Plus much much more!!
Where to find Bobby Kicks & GoTee:
Socials:
https://www.instagram.com/bobbykicks_kickstory/ https://www.instagram.com/gotee_kickstory/
Website: https://linktr.ee/kickstorypodcast
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kickstorypodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kickstorypodcast
Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/myfirstkicks
Intro Music by The DoppleGangaz: https://thedoppelgangaz.bandcamp.com/
Outro Music by Gordon Bombay: https://thegordonbombay.bandcamp.com/
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:15
Speaker
Hey, go team. and Bobby, welcome to the podcast. What's up, man? How's it going on? Thank you. Yo, yo. Been following the page for a minute, so I just wanted to get you guys on. And we can just have this roundtable discussion about your guys' first kicks and, you know, just what I just hit had to hit you guys up. I hope this is going to be as good as I think it's going to be. I'm excited, Bobby. You excited? I'm excited, man.
00:00:39
Speaker
Very excited, man. Honestly, like this whole ride with the new podcast you know for us is pretty pretty cool too. So we're on the same boat, man. So I definitely appreciate you recognizing you know our journey as well. you know So vice versa, man. We definitely appreciate your your time.
00:00:56
Speaker
oh yeah you guys been Yeah, you guys have been making the moves. you know I saw you guys have been hitting up a bunch of conventions and I saw you guys were at the WNBA recently. ah Then there was like, you guys split up and did some some cool stuff. and Yeah. I was trying to remember the last... I know the last post was like an Instagram Live. So I was trying to like remember before that, what was the the thing before it? Because I know Go Team posted like all his accolades on his page. And I was like, oh, you worked at MTV Networks too? Because I worked
Shared History at MTV Networks
00:01:29
Speaker
there as well. Oh, nice. For a little bit as well. So we have that connection going on. You are a 15-15 Broadway guy?
00:01:35
Speaker
Yes, sir. 1515. Yeah. i I was trying to... like I never got that MTV Networks card, but I remember it from the first time I worked i went there to TRL and they let us go to the back before they filmed TRL. Yeah. And so, yeah. That was my that was my internship.
00:01:57
Speaker
Oh yeah? yeah TRL, Wacosin, Deli, La La, Caduce. That got me started. That that was 2003.
00:02:07
Speaker
That's crazy. Crazy. That's funny that you guys talk about you know the television experience. Sorry. Yeah, I'm not saying that's funny that you guys talk about the television experience because I've worked in television too before going into this world. I worked in ABC, PBS, NPR. I've done a lot of that broadcast television too on um on that end. So that's funny. but That's crazy. but yeah Yeah, I still work in television right now. So nice okay I worked at Viacom for like close to like six years and after that I worked at MLB for a little bit so yeah just lots of lots of cutting and editing and production yeah yeah I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure especially you being in New York pretty sure I know a lot of people that you worked with in the past or working with now
00:02:50
Speaker
Especially, yeah, yeah. TV is a small circle, man. It's a small circle. Yeah, for sure.
Sneaker Community Connections
00:02:56
Speaker
I think a lot of profession is a small circle. I mean, now that we're getting into sneakers, you know, I feel like I've been having to have the same conversations with a lot of the same people and being like, oh, nah, this person knows this person and this person knows that person. You're just like, all right, cool.
00:03:12
Speaker
yeah yeah one percent ah but But for people who are not and familiar familiar with you guys and your podcast, how about you guys introduce yourselves?
00:03:23
Speaker
I'll start us off, man. I'm Bobby Kicks. I'm a big time vintage and sneaker enthusiast. I love all things nostalgic. My big MJ fan, the GOAT one and only. um and I met GOAT somewhat recently in the last couple
Background Stories: Bobby and GOAT
00:03:42
Speaker
of years. you know we We connected, we vibed together, and then we you know, just talking about an idea. We went into the podcast together and a couple of years later, that was about around maybe like four years ago, I want to say in in total. So we definitely, you know, yeah, around that time. Um, I'm based out of Phoenix here, Arizona, uh, born and raised. Uh, so I'm still here. We're still based in Arizona, go to nine now. Um, so that's a little bit of my background. Um,
00:04:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so for me, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm located, I'm in Arizona. I moved to Arizona in 2013. I'm from Brooklyn and you probably know how people that's from Brooklyn will always remind you and let you know you're from Brooklyn. So though they know how they will, they will. That's a Brooklyn thing. Do I'm i'm from Bed-style do a dial from Bed-style Brooklyn. So born and raised. Um, as you mentioned, you know, I was TV guy, but my passion has been sneakers since 1988.
00:04:40
Speaker
And as you know, in New York City, you're always seeing kicks. Whether you're in Queens, you're going down to Ave. Whether you're in Brooklyn, you go down Fulton Street downtown. Whether you're in Harlem, you go to 125th. You're going to always see kicks. So I was always surrounded by kicks. I'm lucky to be the young, I'm the youngest brother. I have two older brothers. So I was always seeing kicks from them when I'm seven, eight, nine years old and like, Oh, I remember.
00:05:02
Speaker
So I don't consider myself a vintage collector. I'm just a pure sneak enthusiast, right? As Bobby mentioned MJ to go, right? That I grew up with MJ, right? I appreciate the others, but MJ is my, my, my hero. Um, and as Bobby mentioned, I actually saw Bobby, Bobby kicks, he had a Bobby kicks table.
00:05:19
Speaker
I went to, you know, when I moved to Phoenix, I sold a lot of my collection, fortunately, right? So a lot of my collections just moved out here, went to a couple conventions. And and and one of the last conventions I've been to, I saw this Jordan poster. It was like, it was like a Jordan, like a six foot them upper decks statues, cardboard statues.
00:05:38
Speaker
cut out. There you go. Cut out. So I walked towards it and I just saw nothing but vintage eighties, nineties, Jordans, jackets, t-shirts, t-shirts, shorts, sneakers. And I see this guy. So I'm like, and this is the error. This is the easy error. This is the beginning easy turtle dove error, right? yeah So once I get connected with him, I was like,
00:05:59
Speaker
We were talking for an hour. I forgot that he he's he has a business. He got he gotta to sell some stuff. And then we just connected. We combined minds. we had you know There's different ideas. And then we said, hey, let's get ourselves together in terms of showcasing ourselves out to the IG verse, to the internet world. And then that's how we connected, man. That's that's how Bobby and I connected.
00:06:21
Speaker
No, yeah, I mean, in the front, I definitely want to ask you guys what fuel do you guys to get together and start, you know, kick story podcasts and, you know, you guys been doing.
Unique Podcast Approach to Sneaker Stories
00:06:31
Speaker
I feel like it's different from what other people are doing, where you guys are more just focusing on the shoe that's in front of you for that episode and and then expanding on it beyond that and then having these conversations around the shoe versus just being like, this is what's coming out or like,
00:06:50
Speaker
you know, oh, they're retro-ing this. So let me bring out, oh, retro. Like it's like, you guys are are actually taking the time to talk about the history of it and then, you know, throwing in a little bit of your personality into this. And so I want i want to know where where that started and did it start at the table. And that's awesome, man, that he pointed it out to us. I think that's the first time I've actually heard it from someone else, the way you're describing it. So thank you for that. And I think that's something that we really wanted to,
00:07:18
Speaker
you know like own in a way where you know we wanted to talk out of experience because we lived through that era where those iconic sneakers were really making ah a big impact in in the sportswear world, footwear up to the gear. you know So we wanted to create something that share our stories, kick stories, and also the history, the kick story. So the history and the personal stories behind those iconic kicks.
00:07:45
Speaker
So since we grew up in the 90s, born in the 80s, we felt like we had something to offer together from two different worlds. and know I'm from the Southwest, Arizona, and then goatee from the East Coast. so And just the way we connected in person, you know when i was I was a vendor you know selling my you know my gear and stuff like that, the way we connected there, we were like, you know what? this is This is an episode. This could be something that we could share to the world.
00:08:11
Speaker
And we're like, you know what, let's just do it, man. So that's yeah a little bit of how we basically came up with this idea, but go to, I want to pass it to you. No, I mean, you, you, you, you, you said all, you said everything you told our story, right? The kick series, the history and stories of sneakers. And I looked at,
00:08:29
Speaker
I looked at, cause I've been following sneaker podcast, sneaker, I, I've been going on YouTube. I mean, when the internet first started, I was just going to the library and just looking at in styles shoes. I was a big proponent of Nike talk back in 99. Like um um I've been embedded in into the sneaker culture, right? Lived it too. Right. And I'm a, I'm a, I'm a researcher. I'm a historian. Right. So I always saw like, when I go to these sneaker vendors, I always saw like the same booth.
00:08:56
Speaker
but It's a night dunk. It's a Yeezy. It's it's ah it's a Travis Scott collab. but And then once again, Bobby had that differentiation. That like ooh that speaks my language. That's why I you know yeah i went to his booth. right you know so Same concept when it comes to podcasts. I've been seeing a lot of redundant podcasts. Your podcast is the breath of fresh air because you're getting new insights. You're talking about that first love. And that's our thing. First love. That's something we share together. Both our podcasts. First love. Right. So, and then, you know, whenever you ask somebody, what's your first love? They go first smile.
00:09:29
Speaker
And then they're going to go down a whole laundry list of that sneaker. And that euphoric feeling, that sense of joy, we wanted to bring that to the world. You know what I mean? So Bobby said it correctly, right? Just the history, story, authenticity, right? yeah we do our research We do research in terms of who are the designers, but 95% of the time, it's us speaking. There's no script.
00:09:55
Speaker
Right. Because, yeah because we lived it and we wanted to just have a little, and then we wanted to also showcase our production background as well. Right. And we wanted to like, you know, visually from the optics standpoint, showcase us our podcast to be a little different than others, not to compare, but just being our own lane.
00:10:14
Speaker
No, yeah, I mean, you know, I would come in, we're in kind of the same lanes. I feel like, you know, I in the beginning, I had this one idea of like, I'm gonna hit them with sneaker questions, everybody's gonna have sneaker answers, like, you know, and, yeah you know, kind of evolved it more into just like, where has sneakers have taken some of those these guests that I've had on but the Asking I've turned it more into like an ice-breaker question versus Like like ah I need to know the exact history which you what you guys are doing So, you know, I like I like having that moment cuz I'm very I'm very in my head about sneakers Like there are moments. Let's wake up and be like damn yall Yeah, I remember when those came out. and last yeah or or Or, you know, but you start obsessing and be like, you know, I remember this one shoe and I don't remember the name of it. And then you just spend five hours Google and trying to find it, right? Yeah. So yeah a lot of a lot of that is, you know, I think um a lot of that is lost now because you know, it's so easily on the internet, nobody's
00:11:16
Speaker
When it comes to just information in general, remember, yo, remember when you would go to somebody, you would tell them something, and then they couldn't Google it. So they had to take you for work. Yes. You'd be like, yeah, those are Scotty Pippa shoes. You remember those are Scotty Pippa shoes? And then you'd be like, damn. And then they take that with them for the rest of their life until Google happens. And now they're like, they look down at their phone and be like, man, this has been lying for the past six years. They always have to describe it like, it has the red with the white, and it has this, and it has that type a ton. That's all you had, man. That's all you really had to really paint that picture for someone, you know? Yeah. So you guys are here to answer the question that I ask everybody each week. And you know, everybody's here. Everybody's here to answer this question. My icebreaker question. So what's your first kicks? What's that first pair of sneakers y'all need to... What's your first kicks? What's that first pair of sneakers y'all needed to absolutely have?
00:12:09
Speaker
Wow, I guess I'll start it off. yeah i off bobbykin So my first love, I've mentioned this over and over again before I even the podcast is a jordan nine is jordan nine and ill just don't have to grab it but jordan nine the o g Jordan Jordan 9 is the Space Jam 9. You've seen it in the movie. That shoe was super special to me because one, it was my first Jordan.
00:12:32
Speaker
Second, it was that it was a shoe that my parents could afford because we literally found it at a JCPenney outlet in the back, you know, just like, you know, multiple sizes. And this is during the time when Jordan retired. So that shoe was like discontinuing because they didn't think he was going to come back. You know, his line was going to be over. So that shoe went on sale. Yeah. And that's my first dive into like a you know a premium, you know, signature shoe. Before that shoe, I had, you know, you know,
00:13:02
Speaker
unfamiliar shoes here and there. And actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I want to go back and try to find those shoes, you know, to have my collection because I'm really nostalgic like that. I want to collect the things that I had or I missed out as a kid. But the Jordan 9 was the shoe that really got me into the game.
00:13:19
Speaker
And also just seeing Jordan on the television, man, just doing amazing things. I was like, man, always being the short kid. I was like, man, I want to elevate myself however I can. If it's going to start with the shoes, all right, it's going to make me feel even taller. And, you know, I was diving into, this was like 93, I'm sorry, like 93, 94.
00:13:35
Speaker
And I was, as a kid, trying to learn the game, you know, having some cool shoes on my feet and seeing other kids, like, admiring the shoes that I had. I just felt like I was on the top of the world. So that really helped me, you know, with my confidence level, you know, going into sports, you know, and just building myself up as, as like this, with this personality that I wanted to really try to go into sports. So I always carried that with me, you know, and that really molded me as that type of person I am today.
00:14:05
Speaker
Work. Yeah. Go T. Yeah. Air Jordan 3, man. Air Jordan 3, 1988. 1988, I'm seven years old. My oldest brother's four years. He's a couple of years older than me. He was like 11, 12, right? So we all did good in school. You know, my aunt, mother combined there, combined their their money, and they bought all three of us. All three of us. Air Jordan 3. My oldest brother, he had the white ones.
00:14:33
Speaker
Me and my middle brother, me and my other brother had the black, right? OK. I'm seven years old. I didn't have it. And I clearly remember. I remember being so upset that I don't have an ear bubble. Because I'm seven years old. You know? Yeah. Back in the days, Nike, Nike and Jordan did it. Yeah, the kids, they were just like, let's slap some some rubber together and let's go. actually Actually, they got a little lazy. And years later, as I get older, they used the Air Jordan too.
00:15:02
Speaker
Mm-hmm. They use the Air Jordan 2 Soul for little kids GS sizes Air Jordan 3. So once I got over that, I was this amazed by Jordan, amazed by that foul like the free throw dunk, amazed by the way he walked. Then when I go outside, I'm outside of Brooklyn, all the B-Boys had the Jordans on but the with the untucked laces. I remember the the amazing Air Jordan suits that came with the 3's. And I was a little kid.
00:15:30
Speaker
And I was enamored. I was like, wow, this is an elephant skin. I used to always say, oh, this is an elephant skin, right? This is an old elephant. This is an old elephant. Real elephant. Like, I'm a kid. I'm like, I got elephants on, right? So the air drew in three to this day, and I'm so glad they bring him back. The air drew in three in a similar correct form, because we had some butchered ones, right? We had some butchered ones. So they're not reimagining it, so it's not going to be age yellow. I know, Bobby, you don't like that. I know you don't like that, Bobby.
00:16:00
Speaker
Bobby, what that yellow? Bobby, what that yellow so? I'll do it naturally. You like an age? You like an age? No, naturally. Honestly, like I wear my stuff and I'll naturally you know make it yellow. so That's a fact. whereas i mean I still think that's kind of, I don't think it's ever a perfect yellow when you when you're like wearing it. Yeah, like yeah. it's It just looks dingy at that point. But if you just use the age marker, it's like, all right, it's totally different.
00:16:23
Speaker
but You do it naturally, your right shoe might be a little bit dirtier than your left shoe, you can't control it. Then you got heel drag, you're not even thinking about the heel drag on one shoe, then you start leaning. The leaning knife to tower, the leaning knife to tower, oh my god. So yeah, for me his for me the Air Joint 3 has been my favorite since seven years old.
00:16:44
Speaker
It's forever my favorite. When they retro, I get them. I sold a lot of them because I hated the construction of it. But this year, the Blacks some men are meant to coming out. I'm excited for those. They're doing three men. Oh, yeah. that's ah That's beautiful. I mean, Bobby, you touched on that. You said, you know, you want you want to go back and you want to get all the stuff that you had as you were a kid. But I feel like that's that's a problem with all of us, right? That's what that's why our collections are so huge. yeah i got I got a whole stack of boxes right here. like You know, it's it's ah's issue it's like we're playing catch up because we never were able to afford the stuff that we really wanted. So now we're like, we got the money now, so yeah there's lizz let's get these, let's get this. And then you forget about the shoes that you were like, yeah, man, I remember when those were kids, but now I want these, you know, VRSBs or the Nina Chanel 3s. And then you're like, all right, I'll wait. I'll wait. I'll wait. You know what? When I'm on that trip,
00:17:43
Speaker
Go ahead, Bobby. Go for it. Go for it. Real quick,
Sentimental Sneaker Collections
00:17:57
Speaker
I was going to say, is that when I'm on that journey to find those you know those pieces, those so shoes that I want, I'm also finding the gear.
00:18:04
Speaker
you know yeah From the shirts, to the hats, to the socks, to everything I could find to put that era together. you know i'm saying um you know I even find like shoes that my mom had, or my dad had, or my brother had. you know So I'm always like on the hunt for like, glass and i'm trying to I'm trying to buy back my my past. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to buy that back. you are trying sure Yeah. You getting the time capsule in the house. like You don't got to dig for it. You're just going to be like, just go in the closet real quick. I'll tell you. You want to see 1987? I got you. 1987 right here. Every era. If you want to see an acid wash air force
00:18:44
Speaker
Nike jumps a suit jacket go to Bobby Bobby Bobby Bobby collections great Bobby collections is great umbile is crazy I i Was just gonna quickly say for me um, I don't go like I don't really go for like the age og because I'm not gonna be able to wear them I'm not a rejuvenator. Yeah, I so that's so but I'm a stickler for details and I call myself the detail policeman. I'm gonna say details and not, and I'm gonna say 96% of the time Nike disappoint me with their retros.
00:19:18
Speaker
96. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm in this belief of like, you know, there's a moment where retros have become just lifestyle shoes. So they because of that, you know, they're just like, we don't have to put in the top tech, or even the top tech from 1988 does not like it's impossible to make now now or It just costs too much. And it's a lot cheaper to just be like, we can skip here and there. And then skipping here and there becomes, all right, now we can get away with just doing this. And now we can get these crazy margins. And nobody's really, you know, like, when's the last time you've seen somebody put on a ah some threes to ball? Like, you rarely see it. Right. You know, like. Right. honest but you whatever my re showss I do play my retros. Yeah, that's true. I mean, does your feet hurt?
00:20:07
Speaker
Um, you know what? Let me share this. ah The most comfortable Jordan retro is the 10. Okay. The fours. That's different. That's different. That's different. That's different. so i think i'm I'm talking about, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about like, cause like the tens is you have to build that to to last. Like it's no, there's no, there's no way to work around it. I feel like they're still using the same tech from when it first came out. But if you we were doing like threes, ones, ones are terrible, like super un uncomfortable. that see what you man Yeah.
00:20:38
Speaker
tos are two Two's are okay, but that's because they barely make them. So it's like, it's like, all right, we gotta, you know, we gotta throw in a little bit there, you know? And then threes are, are it's like, they're comfortable to just walk in, but I've never seen anybody be like, all right, man, I'm about to take off in these, like, you know. Four's are bricked and uncomfortable.
00:21:00
Speaker
ah force on My favorite model I don't I don't want to hear any force landed on this podcast. so It's the it's the most comfortable Jordan I've ever had they and they hurt that it they heard they heard they hurt but i've heard some times i've heard some times man not They're not technically not my they're not my first love but I I just I just love that model so much that even though I fla i had a pair of bread floors, right. And I mean, I don't know if you, I feel like you guys would be like black cement, black cement over here.
Practical Issues with Sneaker Models
00:21:33
Speaker
No, you're right. So,
00:21:38
Speaker
so I had a pair of but bread floors. I think it's like the 2013 pair or the 2014 pair or something like that. was that cra i want Yeah, those, i have I had those, yeah. Instantly cracked in like four wares or something like that. and i And I get like these weird scratches on the and inside of the midsole. And so I started wearing them and I noticed that it has the, which I never ever had on any other shoe besides maybe Air Forces, but it's like where the pinky toe bends that like side and then it bends into like a like a pointy part and then it just starts breaking off.
00:22:16
Speaker
And you get like a pinky hole. You never, you never had that on a ship. You get the pinky hole on the side. is That's what happened with the bread for us. I was like, all right, he's got to go. you bowling No, this was just regular wear.
00:22:28
Speaker
ah Those materials, man, those materials. Yeah. and this is i but i look I love Gentry Humphrey, but once they started split-turning off and being like, no, Jordan brand's about to be its own brand, that's when everything was just like went crazy down, in my opinion. yeah Interesting. I never heard that. OK. That's when they start making Jordan fusions. So we got Uptown Jordan, and then they start making.
00:22:53
Speaker
I'm like, come on, guys. Come on, guys. on, guys. Stop playing with us. These are bootlegs, man. I mean, and now and now people are like, yeah, we need to bring them back. I don't know if you've seen that. people You know what? You're right. I've seen something. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And I'm like, no. and and know And then they're like, the one thing the one thing they're like, all right, they weren't all bad. Like, remember the five Air Force ones? I'm like, yeah, they were all hero terrible. They were horrible. Couldn't even speak just then. jesus it horrible horrible. not So, so we talked about how you guys, you know, linked up, but i'm I'm curious about how you grew up, Bobby, you know, I don't, I've only had one other guest from Arizona, ah George from ah sneak this and so I, you know, I haven't have like,
00:23:41
Speaker
big knowledge of the the the Arizona sneaker scene before, but I do know how big it is now, you know, but what was it like growing up as a sneaker head? And what was the sneaker scene in Arizona? That's a good question. Good, good question. Because honestly, I've never thought of myself as a quote unquote sneaker head. I've always thought of myself as a collector. And I and i think that there's a difference. And the way I break it up is this way, like collecting, I collect what I like.
00:24:08
Speaker
You know, when you're, when you're a sneaker head, you'll buy like, you know, even the hype stuff, you know, just as long as you're on the, the correct or current trend. Right. So that being said, I disagree with that. i i disagree with that Okay. Okay. That's just the way I see it. You know,
00:24:23
Speaker
That's, ah that's a high beast, not a sneaker head. High beast would be so exclusively all, all like, you know, those, those, those expensive collabs. But anyways, that's, that's something else. Right. Um, but growing up, I never, I honestly like, I'll give v on you guys podcast yeah all Oh, no, you did for an hour.
00:24:46
Speaker
a But growing up, no, you're good. You're good on the, you know, growing up in the nineties, I was always. into like the sports performance stuff that included Andre Agassi and Jordan. right So I was always trying to find my own personal style and I always wore my stuff, playing basketball. you know I always had or wanted to have like the latest gear or or or put together an outfit. right Growing up, I lost track of that. you know As I was getting older in high school, you know college, I just
00:25:17
Speaker
didn't really care about that. I was just we know more focused on school, working, that whole thing. As I got older in my 30s, mid 30s, I was like, you know what? I want to go back to the things that I wanted as a kid, right? you know And that's when Bobby Kicks became like Bobby Kicks. I was like, you know what? Instagram was barely popping up. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to dive into social media, download the app. So take pictures of my shoes or the things that I wanted, you know, I was starting to collect. And then I started noticing through social media, other people that were showcasing their sneakers. So I didn't really get an idea of what sneaker head what were. Like I say, in the 2000s, I wasn't into the shoes. I was into Puma, but I wasn't into like, like, you know, Nike talk and you know what Jordan was doing. I kind of disconnected that whole, with that whole, you know, ah that whole world. I started getting back into it.
00:26:06
Speaker
mid 30s through Instagram. Started paying attention to what was coming out. The retros was ah was a term I was fairly new to. Because I always thought it was re-issues. You know, oh, they're bringing them back. They're just re-issues, you know. But retro was starting to be becoming part of my vocabulary. and this That's a collector. That's a collector term right there. You just said it like it's a comic book.
00:26:29
Speaker
yeah I mean, look, we we all have the collector gene. Yeah, you know, yeah I think it's it's when we start expanding on it that we like, you know, we start satiating the gene and we're like, we're like, Yeah, you know, I got these and then you start going and then you start learning and and yeah more about this one thing and you yeah build on it. Like, you know where you know, you talked about being into Pumas and then starting to figure out retros and stuff like that. Is there a shoe or a model besides the Agassiz that were was like piqued your interest and then you needed to find more about it?
00:27:04
Speaker
Hmm. Oh, wow. Yeah, this as a kid or maybe I mean as a kid not so much actually I'll take that back Yes, I was always trying to find out what the newest release was and I was looking at slam magazine So I always went to my local circle care went to go there they had a magazine section i remember me and my friends after basketball we get up when we get loaded up on candy and go to the magazine section and just look at the you know just look at the what's coming up what's coming out you know from every brand so slam magazine was my portal to what was coming out with the gear
00:27:39
Speaker
and all the brands because you know on the back of the section on the slam magazine they had like you know Converse coming out with this Adidas coming out with that Nike coming out with this and I was all across I was exposed to all across those those brands and back then they had like performance stuff like Adidas was coming out with some really cool like Adidas equipment you know, feet you can wear, a Reebok was coming out with some cool things with DMX, Hexalite, Nike was doing, so they're very competitive. So that was my dive into like understanding what the tech behind these shoes had and the athletes that were wearing them through it. So I would say like Slam Magazine was like my life, was like my little Bible at the time to really understand what the sneakers were all about behind the athletes.
Bobby's Evolving Interest in Sneakers
00:28:22
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Like I said, I took a break. Years later, I dove back in. This is 2012, is when I really got back into Bobby Kicks as a thing. So 2012 was yeah when Bobby Kicks was born again, you know was like that kid again. you know So Bobby Kicks actually came out from that cartoon Bobby's World. So if you watch that cartoon Bobby's World as a kid,
00:28:45
Speaker
you know People used to pick on me and say, oh, you look like Bobby from Bobby's World. You look like Bobby from Bobby's World. and you know So I was like, you know what? I'm going to go back into the the archive and maybe play off of that hole you know that whole that whole name. So Bobby kicks, Bobby's World as a kid.
00:29:00
Speaker
yeah You got to get yourself animated in that style. Actually, I'm sure it's printed like that. So yeah, I'll show you. I'll ah post some pictures on that. But yeah, dope. That's dope. Yeah, goatee. All right. So you know we touched on Bobby for a little bit, him getting back into the game. But I want to hear about you know you young young goatee in Brooklyn.
00:29:21
Speaker
Well, were you were you you know going to school in Brooklyn, the flyest of the fly, running it up? 100%. 100%. I never left. I couldn't leave. I couldn't leave. I couldn't leave because i mean i'm I'm in the city. I'm in New York, right? And so and all my friends that know me know me for kicks.
00:29:40
Speaker
Everybody does see me. They know me. So what I'm doing right now, they're not surprised. They're like, yeah, see, you always had kids, you know? And I was going to, I was going to great lengths in high school, going to New Jersey because kicks with no tax in New Jersey. And I would get sneakers two, three weeks before they come out. Shout out to my man, St. Clair. St. Clair. Have you seen this? He was a plug. He was the first plug. Before they had early releases, we would go to Jersey.
00:30:00
Speaker
Newark, New Jersey, in the hood, iron am bound. That's crazy. I wish I knew you. Listen, I have book bags on. I used to leave my books in high school, have an empty book bag, and then buy kicks a week or two before they come out, put in my book bag, because you know in Brooklyn, you know how Brooklyn is. So i can't yes I can't show that I'm wearing, I got sneaker, i got have i act like I got a lot of books in my book bag.
00:30:21
Speaker
So I've always been at the kicks. I've always, and you know what? I'm lucky. I got a cool mother. Me and my mother on Sundays, she's like, look, let's just go downtown Fulton street. And let's just walk. Go to all our hot beads. Go to, oh, go, go, go to everybody. Just go to all. Cause you know, in New York city, you're not relying on jewelry store. You got jewelry, you got jewelry in the front watches, go to sneakers in the back. So like I've never left kicks. I've, I've, I've been,
00:30:49
Speaker
fascinated I've been a student since I was eight years old, brother, seven years old. you know and and And to even add to it, I strategically, well, my mother didn't want me to go to my zone high school, boys and girls high, because I was going to bad school. So I went to Martin Luther King High School. That was a pretty bad school. That's my zone school. That's where I'm from. So my mother was like, you can't go to the high, because if you go to boys and girls high, I don't know if you're going to go to college.
00:31:13
Speaker
So yeah like you've been a Brooklyn kid your whole life. You're going to take the Iron Horse, AKA the train, and you're going to take an hour and 15 minute drive. And I went to Martin Luther King High School up at Westside. Jeez. Right? Yeah. what But that is far. That's hour, 15 minutes back and forth, brother. You was on time?
00:31:33
Speaker
ah ah yes ah you got to see it Also, we had metal detectors in our school. So it was our fifth. Oh, yeah. Plus 35 minutes going through metal detectors. so Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. understand. Bobby, you have metal detectors in your school? No, sir. No, not for you, man.
00:31:49
Speaker
It's funny because I did go to a somewhat bad school, but we didn't have that. I mean, we had our gangs here and there. You can't wear this color, you can't wear fat laces, and you can't have certain initials on your belt buckle, and you can't have an A-ball t-shirt and things like that. Who were you running with?
00:32:08
Speaker
Who was I running with? Yeah, who you running with? I was running with, I was cool with everyone, dude. Like, everyone was cool with me. um Honestly, i had I had friends on this side, I had friends on that side. I was cool with everyone, they were cool with me. And I was very blessed to be ah surrounded by like, you know, ah some just so some cool people, you know? So, yeah. But nothing crazy like that, man. Nobody, nobody like, don't make me get Bobby on you. And then he was like, no, I don't want Bobby, I don't know.
00:32:34
Speaker
him yeah Go into Manhattan, show me New York City in a different light. Because now I'm understanding fashion from Harlem and the Bronx. As you know, every single borough, got we got our uniforms. You from Queens, y'all wear Carhartt, right? i'm from I'm from Brooklyn, we wear polo.
00:32:55
Speaker
Right? ah People from Harlem, that's not how New York City is now. I'm talking about 90s. I'm talking about 90s now. No, yeah, 90s, 90s. Right? You from Harlem, you wearing VAS boots, you wearing Pelle Pelle leather jackets, you from the Bronx, you know? So that opened my eyes to a whole different level of fashion, whole different level of sneakers. That's when I started to realize how important Air Force Ones were. People in Brooklyn, we were Air Force Ones, but the Harlem?
00:33:20
Speaker
That's a Harlem shoe. That's a Harlem uniform. no yeah You know? So this just to end that segment, man, um I feel blessed and very, very lucky, even though I didn't know if I was going to be alive, but I feel very, very lucky to grow up in New York in the 80s and 90s.
00:33:35
Speaker
And tonight I have a scar on my face, too. I'm not going to work, right? For real. I'm from one of the worst areas in the city. Bobby, I don't know if you ever heard of those stories. He told me the story. He shared that story. I was like, that's wild. That is wild, dude. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. On Halloween, hit you with the? Bobby, remember I told you that the first time I went trick or treating with I moved to Arizona and I have kids. My kids was like, dad. Yeah, you told me about that. You were just like, wait a minute. We're shocked, you know?
00:34:04
Speaker
and we i never never been myma was like yeah if Halloween was the only, was the only day I had to go to school. My mother, you ain't go to school. You good. No, that's crazy. yeah I mean, i'm ah I'm a little bit younger than ah you guys. yeah born I was born in 88. So, Oh, wow.
00:34:23
Speaker
So your shoe comes out the year I was born. but the Magic. be yeah but But yeah, I mean, you know that's that was like, ah it's funny to call it a tradition, but it was a tradition that like lasted for a really long time. Really long time. People just being like, watch out for Bug 50s. I'll be like, what? for What's a Bug 50? And you'd be like, oh yeah, that's when they go to the side of your face. Side of your face. I'm like, what? That's crazy. it' So so so no so um I feel blessed.
00:34:52
Speaker
to really, really be safe. Like I can, I can tell these stories. I'm in my forties. I can tell these stories, right? And only people from New York can really understand what I'm talking about. I really understand that, that, that danger, but also really appreciate kicks because New York city, yeah we didn't have cars. yeah I didn't get my license in my twenties, but really appreciate sneakers and the different, different cultures, New York city board for sneakers.
00:35:17
Speaker
No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobby, you you know, one thing we talk about sneakers in New York, but like Arizona gets real hot. So when you wear old retros, are you afraid for them to start melting on you? Like, I'm um'm curious about this.
00:35:34
Speaker
It's funny that you mentioned that because just recently, for the first time ever, a pair of running shoes actually like, you know, dismounted because of the heat. I was running and then some of the attraction pads on the bottom, you know, came off. I was like, what the hell happened? That was the first time I've experienced in my life here. I mean, I haven't really had any, any, any bad stories about like, you know, my shoes falling apart, honestly, like so. I mean, I lived through like 120 one time, you know, I hit like a record when I was like a kid, like, I think it was like 121, something like that one time. But I was endorsed, you know, I wasn't going outside. But yeah, no no damage, no heat damage yet. Check this out real quick. Bobby, I got it in Haas. I got a quick Arizona story. sorry I moved here July 2013, right? I'm excited, Haas. I'm excited that I live in an area that got a pool, right? I'm like, oh, I got a pool, right? Day one, moved. But I didn't even put all my stuff away. I said, come on.
00:36:29
Speaker
My, my, my part at the time and my daughter, come on, get your bathing suits on. Let's go to the pool. I'm talking about we first get here. I had my, I had my Nike slides. I left them outside. Yo, I was in a pool for two, three hours and two hours. By the time I hit up the slides went like this. It became a you. It became a you. That was my welcome to Arizona, man. The slides became a you and the food never changed. I couldn't wear them no more.
00:36:56
Speaker
but That's funny. It's better than a Welcome up to New York. Usually, Welcome up to New York is like but you get into a bum fight, somebody's spitting on you as soon as you walk out a train station. You're stepping in. there Human shit, you're not stepping in dog shows. You're stepping in human shit. like i take i take I take crippling slides over any of those. That's funny. You ain't lying. You are that lying.
00:37:21
Speaker
You touched on moving to Arizona, but like what is the culture shock for you? and And then, Bobby, my question for you is, when you when you met Goatee, what was it like meeting a New Yorker for the first time? All right, so for me, the culture shock was um space.
00:37:46
Speaker
hey When I first moved out here, I got a car, and i and I didn't have to think about parking. That was an adjustment. Like, like I had a spot. I lived in a town home at the time and just to just have a car. I can go to the grocery store. Easy parking. How easy I i had a hard time adjusting the life that was easy. Right. Then, then the heat, the heat. I mean, as much as I hate humidity, when they, when this is July, August in Arizona,
00:38:16
Speaker
And then that's like, you know, and we we we and we have a little bit of humidity in August and July, right? It's a weird humidity, right? Adjusting to the heat. And then also adjusting to like culture. Arizona, I mean, it it has, I've been here 11 years. I have seen the progression of culture. But when I first got here, I was like, oh man, where's the culture? To a point where I went to a pizza store, they're like, oh oh, we don't sell slices, we sell pies. I'm like,
00:38:43
Speaker
I just want a slice, like these little things, little things you take for granted in New York that Arizona didn't have. But Arizona has, in my past 11 years, the progression's crazy. That's why I'm still here. Bobby? Yeah, Bobby. So yeah, I mean, you know, when I met him, it definitely was interesting, you know, his, you know, his style lingo, you know, some of the, you know, I'm still learning when he says like pause, okay, when when to say that, when, you know, when to recognize what what that means.
00:39:18
Speaker
but potato the the trial and error on the on the pause exactly in the beginning bob you knowahs talk about the after wow I got slipped up. Bobby let your goatee pause. I'm like, oh, damn, Bobby, you got me. You're right. Yeah. I'm learning. I'm learning. And and it's and it's funny because in in some of the earlier episodes on the podcast, you start ah you can see that progression of like me understanding slowly. And then in the later episodes, I'm like, I know what's coming. you know So there you go. Pause. There go. I mean, you know, the story that that's, you know, the way he describes like, you know, his, his upbringing and in in the East Coast, New York City, it's really, it's really cool. I mean, my family's from a big city to like, they're from Mexico City.
Cultural Influences and Community Building
00:40:02
Speaker
So that's like, consider, I think the third largest, ah third largest populated city in the world. So
00:40:07
Speaker
I visited there, so um I love the big city life. like I've been around it, I've ah i've been involved in it, and so on. so And I've been to New York once before, but I didn't but i't get the New York you know ah experience like the way he's describing it. so you got the um you got the fight You got the Times Square experience, Bobby, right? In other words.
00:40:28
Speaker
Right. In other words, right. Right. so So you got a Elmo trying to get you to take a picture with you. not an and you And you had Showtime. You saw Showtime. Showtime. Showtime.
00:40:41
Speaker
We may have just walked around. yeah i mean But it was a cool experience. but i mean Meeting him definitely opened up my interest in what it was back then in the East Coast. you know Some of the lingo he's bringing to the table. just you know ah Every day we we talk about certain things and we're like, man, I'm always learning from him. you know like the things that he's saying, the mannerisms and things like that too. So it's just it's just really i'm really, I'm a people observer. you know I've always observed like you know how they behave and how they you know just do things. So it's really interesting to to to hang out with them and just understand even some of his friends. I met his mom, I met some of his good friends that are are living here too. So that whole
00:41:24
Speaker
you know, um um access to that is like really enlightening to me. You know, so I'm learning a lot through him and just his personality and his knowledge. So it's it's ah it's a nice combination, man. It's a nice like ah i agree a collaboration between between the two. So yeah, I appreciate that. I call Bobby, Bobby and I, we like Cisco and Ebert. If you remember that the movie critics, right? Just two different people, right? Two different people, two different way of the world. I mean, I learned a lot from Bobby.
00:41:52
Speaker
I mean, what I learned, you know, from, from him saying Nike Cortez, of course, dope, man. I'm like, what the hell is that? Yeah. o like no you I know. I don't know what it do. I know uptowns. He didn't know air force was uptowns. Like we just, we, that, that being by code, that two different coasts growing up completely opposite. I think has really benefited us in what we're doing with our podcast.
00:42:15
Speaker
No, yeah, that's great. That's great. um I was like thinking about like the next question here. And so if I had it, I lost it. So that's why I'm rambling. sad that But the what what I was thinking, it it was just like, it's interesting that you guys are are able to just connect two worlds just like that over sneakers. And it's beautiful, obviously, and brought us here so yeah to this moment.
00:42:40
Speaker
you know You know, and because of that, I've seen you guys doing, you know, you moving, you shaking, you know, you, you traveling, you doing, you know, the, the convention floors, you know, you have, you're having, you know, train that James talk about the shoes. Yeah, you outside. What, where, where has, where have you, where has this, where has sneakers taking you guys individually and, and put you in front of where you thought you've never, you wouldn't even imagine that this would happen.
00:43:10
Speaker
for For me, i want to say that yeah I wanted to share that, you know and actually we we talked about this ah recently, that we're honestly like building a community you know or or or or expanding the community right now. you know is it's And the reason why I say this is because a lot of people are connecting with us And they're being they're opening up their personal stories. you know And it's like really it's really flattering that they could see us and trust us to share their stories and vice versa. We can share their stories. So it's been a blessing that this podcast has allowed us to connect with people that were
00:43:47
Speaker
and our eyes like, man, we were fans of them. Now they're like, yeah, now we're part of like the same community. You know, now they see us like on the same level. I'm like, that's, that's flattering. Honestly. I mean, I always say this, but like, I think about ah on the, uh, if you were to look at us, we're small beings, but I think the effort that we're putting into and the authenticity, like go to was saying, I think that's what's helping us.
00:44:09
Speaker
Get it to the next level, you know, and honestly this is a lot of work It might come off as a certain way, you know online But I mean we're doing a lot of things behind the scenes to really make this happen and we appreciate any Support that we can get whether it be like a like or a comment or a share or a DM or subscriber even these interviews, right? We know with you man, like all that is huge to us. So we value our efforts and The way we're you know, the response we're getting from I'm having a good time doing it and it's a lot of work and we hope that we can continue doing this with every support and any support we can get from everyone else. Yeah. I mean, and in the play off of your words, Bobby, I mean, what it brought me, it it brought that sense of community that I felt was missing me living in Arizona. If I could be honest with you, for sure right? Right. Being in New York, you know, you can take the train.
00:45:05
Speaker
You can go to Soho. And in that train ride, you might meet three people, right? Just random, random, right? The internet is bringing me that feeling back. Because in Arizona, everybody close their doors. It's hot. It's hot. You ain't outside like that. It's hot, right? So Arizona's destination-based. I'm going to go to a destination. I may see people there. So what the internet is doing for me, what Sneakers is doing for me, is opening this friends. It's opening just real, authentic people with the same passion like yourself, Hans.
00:45:36
Speaker
Like, right? and real And you know what? Real recognized real. That, that, that, I live by that. Because when you see somebody and you connect, you're like, you're a little funny money. You're a little different, right? um I'm going to keep you at a distance, right? But real recognized real. Also, it just brought us opportunities. hot I don't know if you know. Our first episode was January 1, 2024. Oh, really?
00:45:59
Speaker
We started kick through now, yeah nice mind you, mind you, we, we've been filming and shooting all of 2023, right? So we was figuring out what's our path, figuring out what's our field. Bobby is a master, master when it comes to the arts of graphic design, right? So Bobby, you know, you know, using his 20 plus years and 10,000 plus hours of experience in graphic design and helping us with what's the feel of kick through.
00:46:29
Speaker
What's our identity, right? So it was a lot of work that happened in 2023, and we launched January 1st, 2024, and we in August, and we've been meeting this person. We've been but we've been invited to this place. It's just like everything's happening organically, and and and the number one rule I have in life. And I'm sorry if I'm i'm if i'm rambling. Number one, when you do something you love, you don't got an effort. The universe got you. Exactly. Yeah, you don't you don't need effort.
00:46:58
Speaker
You're the effort. And so I feel like Bobby and I are true testaments to that. We love it. It's hard work, but we love it. We love what we do. We we we love when we post, we love the interaction and let the universe do what it does. Let the universe We're good. and we throw it sure I did want to add, I mean, honestly, like you like you said, Goti, the people that we've been meeting, the fans and the supporters and the followers, honestly, like that's what makes this as cliche as it sounds, that's what makes it special. Because honestly, like we've been meeting some cool people from around the United States.
00:47:31
Speaker
And it's like, man, like it's opening up you know that that community of like, man, like we're making friends, we're making some connections. And it's all through sneakers, like things that you wear on your feet. It's like, man, how does that happen? So it's really cool, man. like it's very It's very special. And honestly, I'm not taking that for granted. And I want to make sure that we project that out to our audience that, hey, man, like we're not We're not putting out a front man. We're not putting on a show. We're putting on like something that you can oh yeah are watch with us and engage. And hopefully it sparks some engagement with you, with us or with someone else in your family or a friend circle, you know? So we want to, you know, kind of get that going for everyone
Importance of Authenticity in Sneaker Culture
00:48:11
Speaker
else too. So, and I, and I'm glad that we're, we have the opportunity through the internet, through people like you and other, you know, other content creators that we can do this together.
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah. No, yeah. I mean, you know, that's the hardest thing about, I think, and I've expressed this on other podcasts too, is, is to get other podcasts or like in our like niche of this, of, of sneakers. Cause I feel I've always felt sneakers is a very greedy hobby. We don't want other people to know where we get our sneakers from because we don't want the chance to lose in our size, you know? So when it comes to this, people feel like.
00:48:48
Speaker
They don't want to share it because then they're like, oh, then it's going to get too big. And then, you know, now I don't have my podcast or something like that. You know, so I feel like, but i but I'm saying it more of like the person that we cater to or the person that we're trying to bring in are people who are inherent inherently trying to stop other people from getting what they're into, you know. It's hard, it's hard, it's hard to like, I've been doing this for, I'm going on four years. So I've been doing this for four years, you know, a lot this you guys are going to be episode 186, I think at this time. That's so damn 186, that's why. 186.
00:49:28
Speaker
So, you know, I've seen the ups and downs. I was, it was just like me and like two other podcasts, two other sneaker podcasts in the beginning. And, and, and then all of a sudden now we got like 1720, you know, so yeah I'm always inviting and I'm always going to hit up another podcast. Cause I feel like, you know, it's a lot easier to have host on.
00:49:50
Speaker
and be like, let me let me take you out of your host and cap youre you're hosting chairs and let's let's just have a conversation. let mean let's look Let's lower these guards, you know? And so that, and give you and let people get to see you guys you know personalities outside of your format and your podcast. So that's that's always been like one of the things that I've wanted to do because I feel like if we're not trying to build a community that will help each other then, which is what I always felt the sneer community was always about, that yeah then what are we doing, you know? Because I'm trying to put ah but a platform up to lift people's up and tell and tell people, yo, let's get let's get your sneaker stories on on wax. let's Let's learn about Bobby Kicks, you know you know, walking in Arizona with his dope man's on. Like, you know, like whos let's learn about that stuff. So where that, feel I feel like,
00:50:42
Speaker
ah Feel like that it's it's hard. It's a it's a tough pill to swallow that we I feel like we're in this niche that doesn't allow for it But once we be the change that we want to see them, you know, then we'll see more of it That's that's that's what I always preached. That's what I always try to do. And yeah, I hope you guys I hope you guys feel that one hundred i do it I think i've seeing that more more now I'm seeing that I'm noticing a lot of other content creators are just like opening up. you know they've They've been ah contacting others and vice versa. I think right now, we're starting to see that because As as you know, the reselling game that really disrupted the collectors, you know, um and think you know collecting has has changed. So now it's forcing people to to pay attention to other things. Rather than like, you know, the reselling game, it's more of just like, okay, now so ah now it's about substance now and now it's about the stories, in my opinion. It's no longer about, you know, surface level stuff. So it's about more, you know, more of the the ah the the substance behind the gear.
00:51:44
Speaker
and are doing that they're trying to go into storytelling look at you know what the the lost and found Jordan once they went with the whole you know OG looking you know paper ah the the tissue paper the fake receipt so a lot of brands are going into the storytelling business now so it's not just about the ah surface level stuff anymore Are you are you guys a fan of that as you know, like, as kick story, and um I'll tell you from my from my, I can go first on this I'm not a fan of it. I feel like, I feel like brands are selling selling the stories back to us, but we're the ones that created the stories. And I think
00:52:25
Speaker
If they're gonna do that, yeah, I feel like if they're gonna do that, ah do it at a higher level. like Make it so that we ah we get to be part of it. Not that select few get to be part of it, not that. like if we're If we're the people that are are putting the shoe on the forefront and we're the ones that are you know helping build a community around sneakers and and stuff like that, that If the brands are just going to sell it back to us and then charge us twice instead of like, you know, the original prices of like that, you know, then I feel like it's and it's not fair to us and why should we buy into it, you know? I agree. I mean, I 100% agree. It's, you know, these big brands, these multi-billion dollar brands all about narratives, right? And, and and and you know, these big brands also realize that their demographic has changed.
00:53:18
Speaker
We are very small demographic for the Nike Adidas, you know, I wouldn't even say Puma, but I feel Puma's gonna always been in his own lane in authenticity. authenticistic Oh yeah, for sure. Puma the Reebok has always been like, yes this is let's go this way. yeah mean i'm I'm mainly talking about Nike. I'm mainly talking about Nike, right? So they create these narratives that they know, their their target audience, which is the younger people now. I'll give you the perfect example of a narrative.
00:53:45
Speaker
The band, Jordan One. Oh yeah, that's coming out. No, no, no. The one that came came out that site, the one that had the X in the back. I don't know, $18,000. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, that yeah yeah one point was $3,000, $4,000. The Jordan One, Black and Red, was never the band shoe. It was the airship. So they just created this narrative of the Jordan One, Black and Red, being a band shoe that was never the shoe. It was always the airship.
00:54:11
Speaker
And then once they saw all that, oh, OK, let's create a special package with the airships, now call those bands, they're demographically younger people. They don't even care. They just like, whatever yeah whatever that hype is, they're going to go for. So Nike is really benefiting off the narrative. They leaving us enthusiasts and purists out of the picture. So we almost got to settle. We got to settle for what they bring because we're not part of the demographic anymore. That's how I feel.
00:54:41
Speaker
T, you bring up a good point with the ah you know them releasing like you know the fake narratives and so on. And honestly, like you know people bought into it. And then you know a lot of resellers bought into it because they they see it as a profit thing. So now people that people that want to collect it because I appreciated the story, I can't get access to it. like I never got the airships because you know a lot of the resellers bought them up. um But we as far as like the... um I actually appreciate The stories, I understand the idea behind it. Um, but I see your point too, Haas about, you know, it's all about the profit. It's all about, you know, excluding, you know, making making it more exclusive to a certain, you know, uh, a group of people and kind of feeling left out and then selling them back to us at a premium price. I understand that. And that is frustrating, but I, I like the idea that the brands are at least attempting to try to bring back some substance.
00:55:37
Speaker
but I know it's all about the profit margin, I get it. So but for me, yeah. I was going to say, but I feel like if they use the track, like, so for example, the reason why I understand what you're saying about the band ones is that The first commercial is the 2X commercial with Jordan. So if you ask anybody what an airship is that was born around my age, they'll be like, I don't know what that is. yeah Airship's more of a recent, let's bring it back. let The old heads are going to love these, you know, like that. That's the type of play.
00:56:14
Speaker
Right? which Which I feel like fell short, right? But, you know, what i what I'm specifically saying, and it's not like, you know, an Amamune release where they're like, hey, we want to, ah you know, um put black voices on a pedestal and, you know, make them louder. Like, that's cool with me. Yeah. Or fresh, fresh new stories that you know It is a tactic of like, hey, we're gonna you know we're going to put out a new shoe this different colorway. We're going to put it together and sell you on it. Fear of gods, some sort of you know something like that, right? Or off-white, right? Love awful i'll love all the 10 and all the off-whites. but Yeah, me too. But that's to me, that's a new. But if I'm not going to sit here and be like, yo, know I absolutely have to put the bread fours, reimagine all my top figure of the year list.
00:57:06
Speaker
You know, because what they're saying is like, hey, you guys need to buy this shoe at $250 instead of, you know, $170. How much it should probably actually cost. And because you remember when you were a kid and you had these or that you remember you were kidding, you couldn't get these. and then And then it's like, all right, now we now let's reimagine every single Jordan, you know.
00:57:32
Speaker
I'd rather the brands take the steps to collab with a designer to give you a fresh take on something old versus being like, okay letes let's just do. you know But I also see your point, Bobby, about like you know the resellers ah using trying to make it so that brands had to go through them in order to get you the sneakers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Brands don't care because they're just they're just like, hey, where these sneakers are selling. and Like, yeah, the demand is high, right? Yeah. yeah So, just keep making them. Just keep making them in a different color. Make them, you know, so.
00:58:08
Speaker
That's fine because they need to when it when a when you when they look at sneakers, it looks like numbers. But when we look at sneakers, it looks like stories. It looks like art. It looks like you know the last memory you had with a special loved one. like it's exactly We look at it differently. And we as the consumers have to look at it like, do we want this? Do I need this? And I think The pandemic caused a lot of mindless buying, where it became of ah kind of like, a are you really buying to just have it in your closet and never wear it? Or are you really buying it because it really appealed to you? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Appreciation of Sneaker Design
00:58:44
Speaker
One thing I did want to share real quick, and one collab that I think represents the story and also being a modern take on it are the Off-White 2s.
00:58:55
Speaker
I don't think you have that pair. yeah um yeah When I saw that pair, I was like, and then I understand the story behind how Virgil designed these and the cracking and the soul. I was like, okay, this is good. And it's and it's through it's through a modern designer.
00:59:11
Speaker
That's a great example of like that connection between the past and the present. So I appreciate that. And i'm I'm not really big on like that. I don't have that in that collection. I'm just like OG colors as much as I can and so on. But that one really got my attention with like collaborations, you know? So I appreciate you know that model for sure.
00:59:29
Speaker
I mean, I love that shoot. I was never able to get him. I had Sean Collard on the podcast, and he talked about how Virgil gifted it to him. And I was like, that's a special moment. I remember he actually put his name on it, right? Yeah. Yeah, he put a name on it every day. That's crazy. I'm a big Virgil fan. I think he broke the door open between streetwear and fashion. 100%. 100%.
00:59:50
Speaker
Yeah, and he he really pushed what, and um'm I'm pretty sure I'm going to get, you know, Polly hated off of this, but I think he pushed what people perceived as sneakers and what we could do. So now that every customizer is doing a big check or every customizer is writing air on it or writing, you know,
01:00:09
Speaker
the beaver and low ah Beaverton address on the side. you know i think it's I think he's one of those like generational talents that he gave it his all to where when he now that he's not on this earth, that we will see his art for probably the end of time. 100%. You said it. you know my my my my favorite My favorite artist is Basquiat.
01:00:32
Speaker
And I love Bosque. I have a couple of replica Bosque. I can't say real, because I wouldn't be here if I had some real Bosque. But explain my favorite and the reason why I say that is because I love people that can always go back and connect with their childhood. Because that's that innocence. When you look at Off-White, that's like something a kid would do. Oh, let's get some sneakers and let's cut it. And let's expose what we cut. right oh that's a good one but right Oh, let's get a marker. And let's write on it. right That's like childhood essence type shit.
01:01:02
Speaker
Right. So I love like that somebody can go back into their childhood, right? Because that was the one point of all of our lives where we weren't we weren't really that influenced. We were influenced by what we saw, but we use our own creativity of our brain. And I felt like if we can get more of that, of that essence with Collapse,
01:01:20
Speaker
I feel that I would personally feel a little bit more comfortable with collabs instead of a Travis Scott that was a mocha color with a reverse Nike check. And now all of a sudden we got a canary yellow color and everybody's like, where's that, where's that artistry at? And that's what yeah know With with that but Travis, I think it's like, i do I do think he suffered from the hype, but also it's just like now that Canary Yellow is like, it's my high school. And now we're supposed to be like, oh yeah, we're all fan of zero fan of your high school now. like right right right right g When it comes to storytelling, you know there is there's an art to it. And I think a lot of it is about appreciating
01:02:05
Speaker
what you've grown up on. And if you, if you appreciate it, then you'll know that like, okay, now like, cause like, for example, Yachty, terrible takes, but, but I honestly, I actually like his concrete boy, uh, Air Force that is an homage to a bait. Like, cause you know, he grew up on that stuff and you're like, Oh, let me, if I'm going to have a chance to make my own Air Force one, I'm just going to make a bait. Like yeah that makes sense to me. Right. When is that coming out?
01:02:35
Speaker
lu yati is well i I don't even think it's coming out. I think he just like teased I know he had like a video him holding the shoe yeah yeah yeah Yeah, but but that's like like if you're gonna do something like that You can tell that it comes authentically versus being like hey This is the school. I went to you go. He's the colors I'm gonna give you the colors I But we're towards the end of the podcast and you perfectly said about, I mean, huge segue. You have mentoring your childhood. So I'm going to need you guys to visualize,
01:03:09
Speaker
i You guys as a kid, I'm going to hit you with a first goatee with tea. And I want you to visualize you back in the day, yeah young goatee. He's about to open that box with the Jordan 3s in it. oh right Now you're you, older you. Behind yourself, what would you tell your younger self as he opens that box? Can can I be honest with you? I'm doing the same thing right now when I get a new sneaker. I'm doing the same thing.
01:03:40
Speaker
As a kid, when I get a new sneaker, I open it up first. I put it on my bed. At the time when I was young, I had bump beds. I was on the bottom of my brothers on top, but now I have a Cali Kings was a little different, but I put the sneaker on my bed. I unwrap them. I smell them.
01:03:56
Speaker
And I lay down and I observed every single inch and it's probably going to take me an hour. It's probably going to take me an hour. It's going to be an hour and more than, more than once I have fell asleep with the lights on with the sneaking next to me. Cause I've been doing that since I was seven years old. So, so when I'm telling young goatee, well team, my family called me tea. I'm telling young tea.
01:04:20
Speaker
Right? And older now go to is keep on doing it. Keep on, keep on reliving your childhood essence. Do not stop. Don't care. Don't, don't listen to the name. Don't listen to people saying that. Oh, you're too old for that. You keep on reliving your childhood. You do the same thing you've done since you was seven years old because you know what? The greatest thing in life is whatever make you happy, man. That's what makes me happy. So I'm telling my, I'm telling my young self, do you son?
01:04:49
Speaker
Do you? You know, look at you like, who is this? That's pretty much it. Bobby, Bobby, I'm going to hit you with the same question. You know, I want you to think back to your younger self as he's about to open that box of his nines, the Space Jam nines. What were you? You?
01:05:06
Speaker
uh older you behind you tell your younger self i love that question because it makes me like you know daydream like you know little things and i've told goatee about this like i remember at when i was younger all the things that i always daydreamed as a kid and the things that i manifested as an older adult and i'm like man i'm doing it you know so that being said i would tell myself like hold on to those shoes and keep going bobby keep going because Honestly, that's been my my slogan for the last couple of years is keep going, keep moving. Because everything that I've been doing so far has been almost, it feels like effortlessly. you know Because I really believe in like you know staying true to who you are, knowing who you are as best as you can, and just keep going. Everything is going to just magnetize towards you. And success
01:05:54
Speaker
all the things that you want out of yourself in this life, it's going to come to you. So as long as you stay true to yourself and just keep going, everything else is going to follow. So I would just tell myself, hold on to those shoes, man. and Keep going, Bobby, because you're going to see some cool things, man. And yeah, that's honestly as plain and simple as that, man. Just keep going.
01:06:13
Speaker
not not Don't wear a blue flag on the ah third floor. i mean like you know i I think I took all the all the right steps, man. like i Honestly, I wouldn't change too much of the past. you know I would say, you know what? like You're on the right track, appreciate every moment, hold on to what you have right now because it's going to serve you.
01:06:32
Speaker
you know, later on down the road, you know, so hold on to those, they you know, connect those dots and hold on to those clues, because that's going to get you the that that's going to be the key to the next door. So um honestly, like I've been really fortunate to experience what I've experienced. And to meet the cool people that I'm meeting today, because like my, my present was determined by my past. And what I do in my present is going to determine my future. So I always
Promotion and Personal Branding
01:06:57
Speaker
take in consideration those three things. So, you know, everything that I'm doing right now, I'm um um' really learning from it and and really appreciating it to get to the next level. So I would just tell myself, you know, my younger self, hey, hold on to, you know, just appreciate what you're, you know, what you're doing right now. Hold on to those shoes and keep going, man. Facts, facts. Look, let everybody know where you can find y'all. Kickstreetpodcast.com.
01:07:21
Speaker
So kicks3podcast, when you go to kicks3podcast.com, just type that in. It's going to take you to all our outlets. It's going to take you to our YouTube. It's going to take you to our IG, right? We did just finish our first ever pop-up shop where we had some exclusive kicks3gear. We're going to be doing that seasonally, right? We're going to do that every season. So if we just bookmark kicksweepodcast.com right follow us subscribe to us on youtube follow our journey we currently on episode 20 right soon to be episode 21 right and um and and and like as bobby said engage go ahead bobby
01:08:01
Speaker
and Engage yeah, and you can find our individual pages. I'm at Bobby kicks underscore kick story and If I'm mad personal journey, you can go. Yeah, you can go as far back as like my Puma years So if you go back into my timeline, you can see my progression as my Bobby kicks, you know brand into the kick Street podcast So go T Sorry, sorry, because I forgot that. And I'm just simple. At goatee underscore Kixery, you're going to see a lot. you're gonna see um um I go like this on my personal page. I got two kids. So I show my kids. I show myself. If you go down my timeline, you're going to see me or we're always wearing sneakers, but I never branded myself. i never ily yeah yeah I branded myself when I started Kixery. So other than that, you but you're always going to see me with some kicks and just having fun.
01:08:47
Speaker
My model is energy flows where attention goes. I feel like I'm a master, a manifest. I believe in the law of attraction, right? That's, that's, that's kind of my thing. So you're going to see a lot of spiritual things and just, I just go like this, but I think I'm talking too much now. So I think I'm done.
01:09:01
Speaker
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