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SNKRs App on the Dog and Bone with Will Stowe
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This week the Will Stowe to the podcast, you may know Will from the SNKRs App where he hosted shows on the app. However, he joins me to talk about his journey to where he is now. How he got into sneakers, how he had to give them up and how he got back into it. We also touch on his love streetwear, how the UK sneaker scene effected him. Plus his work with-in the music scene and what keeps him wanting to be so busy!
Where to find Will:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/willstowehos/
Twitter:https://twitter.com/willstowehos
Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/myfirstkicks
Intro Music by The DoppleGangaz: https://thedoppelgangaz.bandcamp.com/
Outro Music by Gordon Bombay: https://thegordonbombay.bandcamp.com/
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Transcript
Podcast Dynamics: Guest vs Host
00:00:14
Speaker
Hey, well, welcome to the podcast. How's it going, bro? Good to have you. to Have me. say Yeah, good to have you. um It's weird being on this other side, you know. Sometimes, all right, I need to snap out of I'm not the host. It's not always about me. No, I feel you. I guess on podcasts and I'm always like, I end up going into like a host mode type of thing. I'm like, okay, I got to step back. This is a long time in the making, you know, I'm telling you it's
Persistence in Booking Guests
00:00:42
Speaker
three years. Look, I sent you the picture. I message you on LinkedIn and I asked you to jump in the podcast. And you were like, yeah, we will, you know, we'll, I'll let you know. And then.
00:00:58
Speaker
Did I get a follow from you last last year or like six months ago? because I didn't even get the thoughts that you're the same person, I'm not even gonna lie. And so I brought it up again and I was just like, I was like, nah man, I hit you up years ago to try to get you on the podcast. Yeah, no, I respect it, man. Apologies, apologies. No, man, I'm just persistent. I think that when it comes to like, if you if I find somebody interesting, or like find somebody that I really want to talk to, then I'm definitely going to be like, yeah, if it the ball is going to come back around, you know, yeah like I'm gonna toss it out and see if it hits the wall. But you know, and or like the person catches it, but you know, it's gonna come back eventually. No, I respect the persistence and consistency on respect to you.
Wolster's Background and Fashion Inception
00:01:43
Speaker
Yeah. But for for my listeners, if they're not familiar with you, how about you introduce yourself?
00:01:48
Speaker
So my name is Wolster from Hackney, specifically East London. I've been into streetwear fashion for as long as I can remember. My parents are my biggest inspiration first and foremost and then after that is my local area and the people around me. But I work full-time at Nike as a senior content manager for livestream and just content in general. Then I just find myself across the board in different things within Nike. But outside of that, before Nike, I was very much in the DJing party world, managing DJs, throwing parties. I've still got as much as I can, which isn't a lot. But you'll find me on the dance floor somewhere. But yeah, man, I write. And I do a lot of voiceover work as well. So a bit of different trades, man. Yeah. Different trades.
The Cultural Significance of Sneakers
00:02:35
Speaker
you got You got all the pots cooking in the kitchen. You want to make millions, you're going to do different things, right? This is true. This is true. I mean, look, that's wild. that i We definitely got to touch on you, the DJ scene out there and the music, because I love that. I love talking about music on here and the correlation between sneakers and music and stuff like that. But I mean, look, you are a hard person to to get a hold of, so this is... This is an honor having you on, man. It's crazy. And for for listeners, we're probably not going to be touching on a lot of Nike, just out of It's just going to be boring talking about Will. It's just going to be about Will. But since you're here, I've got to ask you the question. And the the question that I ask everybody each week, and that question is, what's your first kicks with that first person? Because you absolutely need it to have. So I'm going to answer the question
Media Influence on Fashion Trends
00:03:24
Speaker
in different parts, because my memory
00:03:27
Speaker
might make me a liar as well. But I say that the shoes that I needed to have, but that I didn't get, was M95 OG Nils. At East London, or just in in London in general, maybe the UK, because it goes as far as Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, was a shoe that everybody absolutely had to have. But at the time, the shoe was over 100 pounds, unless your parents were like super balling, or you were selling drugs. Like, you weren't getting those shoes, bro. You're not getting those shoes. but There was a full uniform of it as well, and I had cold glasses that were older than me. And I think the uniform I liked the most, because there was a few, was the grey tracksuit Nike cap with the swoosh or the TN one. Well, I've seen the small mini swoosh or the TN cap, and then everyone kind of had like the one golf glove on as well. It was an absolute killer of a look.
00:04:19
Speaker
was that and Was that in Summer House, Top Boy Summer House at all? You know what's funny? They wouldn't wear that because it's like that's a little bit before their time, but that is all based on literally where I'm from. like The whole thing down to like the names of some of the down ah groups or gangs, if you like. Very, very close to East London, so very interested in the way that they put that together. Now, they didn't have that specifically, but like denim and leather jackets and stuff like that never go out of trend. So back then it would have been like average jackets or um what were the other ones people had? Pele Pele's? No, is that a New York thing? Not quite Pele Pele.
Music's Role in Fashion Evolution
00:04:58
Speaker
Yeah, no, not quite Pele Pele. I don't think it was there yet. But I think there was a lot of black, black kind of jackets, essentially. And then there was a lot of the V-Su jeans, Levi's.
00:05:07
Speaker
and Yeah, man, people were heavy on their denim, a machine-o, like, they went heavy on that sort of iceberg, like, you know what I mean? That was like what a lot of people would have seen growing up if you're, like, A's. He grew up in the 90s, or born in 91, 92, 80s, all that kind of stuff, yeah. Those were the inspirations. That's wild, because, like, yeah. I mean, I feel like we're around the same age. So like, yeah, the hip hop influence during that time is always just. I think for us it's hip hop and it would have been dancehall culture
Street Market Culture and Fake Sneakers
00:05:41
Speaker
as well. I have to give the Caribbean and Jamaican people their flowers, man. They had, they came through with a lot of style and a lot of passion with the style as well. I mean, you touched on the neon 95, so I've never owned a pair, right? And.
00:05:56
Speaker
It's one of those shoes that some reason, like, ah it alludes me, right? Me and you both, bro. I still haven't underpinned to this day. Like, i I mean, I mean, like I told, like I told on on ah Nia's episode, you got to send the email. just gotta send me email ah You Let me tell you something. So, when I talk about my lucky J.D.T. watch, so when I started, um because I didn't always do live streaming, but when I started doing the live streaming stuff, I remember there was a show where we wanted to get, um, neons, because it was I think it was like 2020 or 2021 they dropped again, really, really small back to them though. And I wanted them for the show and it just wasn't possible to get them. And then aside from that, I was trying to get a pair and you, you would be surprised like, cause you would think it was easy. it's It was really, really difficult to get anything to even listen to. I knew people outside of Nike that would get more access to me, you know, it was my
00:06:52
Speaker
It's crazy. That's crazy. So then you said you you said and you said in parts, so me on the first, is there a pair
Expressing Style through Music and Sneakers
00:07:01
Speaker
that you actually got? that you like The pair that I wanted and I definitely got because it was easier pair to get, but I still don't know if that was my first shoe because this is where I might become the lighter. It's a Reebok workout. Reebok workouts were easy, easy shoe. 50, 45 pounds, you can get them in the Little Woods magazine, go to your local J.D. sports, like first sport, full sport, just a shoe that's classic, you've got the black floor, school is a uniform, all white, if you wanted to go out, all that kind of stuff, really, really classic shoe, just couldn't go wrong with them. And then the other one,
00:07:33
Speaker
have actually been there's a Charles Barkley Air Force One in gold um when he had like a series of Air Forces as a low top um that might have been like the first pair that I purchased myself between that and maybe a fake 95 because I didn't get like an official 95 or the fake 95 um it took me years to actually really accept that they were fake because how'd you know they were fake they were My friends, we used to go to like, there was a street market in a place called Braintree. I think it was like deeper East London. And like, my friends would be like, you know, 50 pounds a good ah track see and and And it's like, how are you going to get 90 fives and a tracksuit for 50 pounds?
00:08:17
Speaker
It's got to be fake. It's got to be fake. You know what I mean? You know, sometimes you get the deals and then you're like... In my head, I was telling myself it was a factory, team, team fault kind of things like, you know, the B. Like a B grade? Yeah, B grade. Real fake. Real fake. That's how you know you went to music, because you're like, I'm going to call it a B side. Yeah, I'm going to call it a B side. We'll call it a B side, but it's definitely a B grade. Damn. Yeah, out here, because I was recently thinking about that, too, where, you know, I wore a lot of forces when I was younger, but you'd get those, like, shops out here that were selling two for $58 forces. And it's like, why didn't they think they were, you know, suspect, you know? Deep down in your heart, you need to still want to accept it. You know what I mean? Because it's like,
00:09:04
Speaker
I saw your episode with Jameson and like I think the the comments to what you were saying, I think we'll be misunderstood. And I guess that's where culture comes into play. And a lot of people are not from culture.
UK vs US Sneaker Culture
00:09:15
Speaker
So like, I don't think anybody accepted that fakes were real. You just didn't acknowledge it. Like, you know, cause no one's gonna be like, yo, man, figure up your, your face. They look crazy. It's like, You know in your heart, if you question it and you really, really look at the details, Nike never made these shoes, you know that. But there were just colourways out there and it's like, yeah, I think they probably could have made them. And you got them from your barbershop who did
00:09:39
Speaker
who also did Western Union, who also did phone deals as well as all things in one place. You know what I mean? Also had DVDs as well. You know what I mean? No, yeah. I mean, yeah, me and JB Simpson were talking about that like after the clip just started going crazy on Twitter because it... The conception was that it's acceptable because people weren't getting called out constantly. It was like, oh, do you know? Now it's like, are those fake? You wear Travis Scott's at Lollapalooza or something like that, you're like, those are definitely fake. You're not wearing something crazy out there. I mean, let me know if I've done some crazy things in my time, sir. You might get some crazy people, but I feel you on that one.
00:10:22
Speaker
then know No, yeah, or or it's now cuz like now we're so we're so used to like oh if it's if it's like a ah very um Popular shoe, it's it's 70% gotta to be a fake shoe. Yeah Yeah, so but before it was like you don't know what it was you don't we weren't like up to everything so you don't know this Yeah yeah Yeah. So you're not questioning it until you're like, you're looking at it like very close. You're like, oh, let me see the shoe. Like, man, what the hell? They smell like glue. Like, you know? yeah Exactly. yeah what I don't think you were leading with like, yo, man, look at my sick face. I don't think anyone was doing that.
00:10:58
Speaker
Nah, yeah, you just pull up, you do the, you just, you just go through the, you just, you walk through your day, you do your day, and then people in the hallway would just be like, yo, this is crazy. And then it's like a year later, you're like, then the the news gets out.
Heritage and Style Fusion
00:11:12
Speaker
Oh, where did, remember when you got those babes back in the day? Yo, yo, those are fake. Yeah, basically. So I'm very good. So I haven't had a lot of people from the UK on here. I've had a previous guest, K-Def, And he's like a big SB head go out there. And he works for Forum. I don't know if you've ever been to Forum. Never been to Forum, no. Never been to Forum. Oh, check it out. It's a very good it's very good spot. um And like so I got like a touch of like sneaker culture out there. But I've always been wondering, because I feel like the UK is mostly known for runners or trainers, right? that's what Yeah, mx is basically
00:11:50
Speaker
Right, yeah. And I mean, Skepta's collab kind of like cemented that as well. So I was curious as to like, sneaker culture, because you, you love, yeah, and we talked about it on Twitter before, where it's just like, you love a lot of like streetwear and sneakers. So like, that's where I come from. So it's like that culmination of it, but I've never really heard like an in depth, like, ah like talk about like, how'd you get into the culture out there? It's easy out here when you're in New York and air it's literally around when you just walk to DQM and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm curious. Yeah. I mean, you got ah you got to see it this way. It's like a lot of this stuff comes from music culture. So ah again, like I said, dancehall culture is huge over here, you know? So like carnivals, the dancehall parties or the blues dancing.
00:12:36
Speaker
and which are like way before our times like those people dressed to impress all like a lot of garage raids so I mean obviously that comes from the states as well but garage raids is really people like dressing up in suits and and tires and like great shirts and all that kind of stuff or really nice jeans and wearing like white Air Force ones or wearing some loafers really, do you know what I mean? So I guess like the first point of call is that, what are you wearing to the party? That's the first point of call. It's like, what's your dress code saying? And there's also where, I think we were once upon a time big on individuality. Like, you know, how do I have
Wolster's Personal Style Journey
00:13:13
Speaker
something that no one else has? That's the first, first point of call. So there were shops and places that you went to to try and get something that no one else had.
00:13:20
Speaker
Or if you were lucky enough, you had an auntie that was going to the States. So you were like, yo, you need to go to this 90 town. You need to go to that. Put like a, I also need a new era cap from you as well. You know what I mean? Like you gave your auntie a whole full list. Now, whether you got that or not is another thing. That's what I was curious about. I remember like sometimes I got a new era cap. I remember once before I knew around, I got a D12 cap and I was just like, thanks, Sandy. Kind of thing. It's like, I didn't want that D12 cap. Um, but you know, yeah, music, music for sure is one of the first things. Um, and I guess just local kind of like block culture, I'd say, you know, uh, just being around, uh, estates, which is what you guys would call projects, you know, people just naturally have their own style and start picking things up. I guess like.
00:14:05
Speaker
and styles of comfort, uniforms for like being outside for like eight hours a day, 12 hours a day, doing all manners of ah whatever craziness as well. and And then I guess the other side is ah um football as well. You know, football hooligans definitely have their own style. So like, oh yeah without a doubt, nobody in the world in streetwear, and I'll argue it to the death, would be at the Stone Island and or CP Company without football hooligans. Like it starts with them and ends with them. like they are the masters of this stuff. Oh yeah, for sure. It's the reason why I love Stone Island. A hundred percent. So like their style was very not specific. In jackets, Stone Island CP Company. um There was also some other brands that Massimo Osti had as well. Like Left Hand and
00:14:53
Speaker
un You can't remember the name right now, but the uniform for them was very much like Armani Denim. It would be aquascutum shirts, or Burberry shirts, or polo shirts, some trench jackets as well.
Career Path: Retail to Fashion
00:15:11
Speaker
Bro, a lot of them jackets would be a stolen, I'll be wrong with you. I think the i think the story or the myth that I was told started with Liverpool fans whenever they went away for like Italy games or like yeah mostly Italy games basically so they'll go away to these games go into these shops and see these amazing jackets run in same way same way the guys who did like the lowlife shit in New York would run into shops and run out with loads of jackets basically and come back to the UK with these six coats that nobody else could get essentially you know
00:15:44
Speaker
That's crazy. You know, like, yeah, I'm gonna follow this team and then I'm gonna put in time, I'm gonna put in time to go steal. Yeah, I think the most famous jackets at the time were definitely like some of those global jackets, the ones that went over your head, some of them with the watch and viewfinder as well. And then yeah, man, Stone Island is like, actually for a lot of us, it's through the football hooligan slash like, gax gaxes active gaxes as well um and a lot of those were white mills you know to be real with you yeah i mean very very very different i mean look i'm a big i'm a big guy richie fan so yes yeah yeah i know that's that's my guy i remember watching lock stocked and two smoking barrels and just being like yep you got me forever okay so after that was snatch
00:16:36
Speaker
And then from Snatch, it was just like, yeah, I became a big Jason Stata fan. Like, you know, I've seen, I've never missed a Jason Stata movie. I hear it. He comes from that for sure. He comes from that. So, like, what was high school like for you? Like, were you, were you fly the whole time? I mean, I don't, because I'm gonna take it guess, are you a first, is it called the first born immigrant? Are you a first born immigrant? Yeah, I'm first born, yeah. I'm first born, well, yeah, I'm first born to my mom and dad. I would like to say that I was, I think other people would as well. So, like, maybe testament to that was,
00:17:18
Speaker
When I got the Nike job, a lot of people were like, you know, you've been doing this for a long time, so it makes sense. you know okay And I didn't realize how consistent I was with like you know trying to kind of stay individual in my style, trying different shoes, colors. Some styles maybe I'm not so proud of now, but that for the most part, like I say, it's staying pretty consistent. you know Like what? Like what? Maybe I'd say there was like there was that period where everyone was like doing the whole backpacking, and uh loud colors and van or the kind like Kanye style yeah but more like um what's his name was it little b is it little b yeah little b a little b Yeah, got my bands on, but he looked that sweet because that kind of... So I say the colors, maybe not the style. The colors are like, not so much for my STs right now. V-necks, I probably would never wear V-neck again. That's just, it's not it. You know what I mean? Everybody owned a V-neck, man. There was no way you could get away from it. For real, for real. And then it was going crazy with pin-rolling trousers and all that kind of stuff. but
00:18:23
Speaker
I guess I was way before our time anyway and just kind of really regurgitate and stuff but I'd say yeah it definitely was always interested in like other styling and like I think I took inspiration from people around me like I always met interesting people in school like one of my friends Lamy like she was one of the first people to have like a bandana. around her neck and I was like, yo, I like that. That was really cool. So then I went to go find one and started doing the same thing as well. I think even before that, like when I was in maybe primary school, there was a guy by the name Skaggs. I haven't seen him in years. I don't even think he really knew me. I don't really know him. but
00:18:57
Speaker
he had this um there was this uh Nike tracksuit that was uh USA big flag at the back and it had that terry cotton on it as well um and it had it on the trousers too so the top was like gray and blue and the bottoms were blue and he had nearly every single colorway of air match 90s and a new era that is style that's crazy that's crazy actually incredible almost I want to know how you got on Yeah. Who knows, man? Who knows? I mean, he was, yeah, he was in time. You know? yeah like How do you approach ah your parents with that? Because I know they're probably looking at you like you're crazy for wanting to have all this stuff or wanting all this stuff. It's just, yeah, it's mad. I think they could never ah think it's crazy because it comes from them. You know, like my dad makes clothes. Like he actually, he makes his old shirt in.
00:19:51
Speaker
a lot of the traditional Nazarene wear, he makes it and I wear it as well. My mum's always been like, you know, don't leave the house looking in a certain way. So people don't talk about me in a funny way as well. So like, you know, dressing up and looking good is like a way of life and it's a standard. especially for Nigerian parents as well. You know, they don't want people to be like, yo, we saw some child looking scruffy.
Creative Industry Challenges and Opportunities
00:20:12
Speaker
Yo, what's going on? Like, do you know what I mean? It's all about pride. I thought he had a good job. I think I guessed that. It was getting around quickly, but in terms of like the things that I've amassed over the years, I've never had collections like this. I'll be honest with you, like in terms of just like keeping around, I've had enough money to like keep shoes in, you know, in a big
00:20:32
Speaker
in a bigger assortment. Like I've now got stories that's never happened to me ever in my life. So definitely grateful, but I was definitely like, okay, cool. Heat 10, self sound, heat 20, self sound, can't go over a certain limit because I haven't got room for it, you know? So yeah, man, it's definitely grown in different ways. But then again, I think my problem is bigger because like I actually wear like hard sole shoes as well. Like I wear a lot of mules as well. I might switch it up sometimes. So It's, yeah, it's across the board. Yeah, across the board. I mean, you got the versatility, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try it, man. Try it. Yeah. You got to, I mean, you know, being fly is a state of mind, so. Oh, 100%, bro. 100%. 100% of the best. So like, I don't really know why, I guess the question on my New York brain is, why do people in the UK call sneakers crepes?
00:21:29
Speaker
Why do they call it crepes? That's a good question. I've got no clue why we call it crepes. I heard apparently that the term sneaker is actually a British term. Really? Something around like burglars, the shoes that they used to wear were shoes that people couldn't hear and so they'd sneak around with shoes because essentially that's the story but Krebs I don't know where that came from like we'd say I'd say trailers as well but like Krebs I don't know where that came from I don't know someone that's a little bit
00:22:03
Speaker
my time interesting It's just, i've I've never understood it. And then it'd be like, I mean, also I didn't understand trainers or, um, runners, runners. I didn't understand. No one says runners really trainers is the main thing because it's like you would use them for training, you know, that's like the main thing. Cramps. I'm going to assume that there's like, are you familiar with Cockney rhyming slang? No. So, ah wait, wait, cock cock Cockney yeah rhyming slang. Yeah. I mean, I think I know maybe ah the like, I've seen like videos of people talking. I'd be like, this is, this is how people talk over there. Like that's, that's like proper, like the, the British, like, yeah, yeah like not like Queen's English. This is like,
00:22:47
Speaker
The queen will look down on these kind of people because sometimes you wouldn't even know what they're saying. So you know what I mean? It's like, what would they say? I'd be like, oh yeah, I'm going to get on my dog and bone and speak to you later. And it's like, dog and bone, phone. Do you know what I mean? It's like that kind of thing. Oh my God. I need to know it now, and now you got me, because I i want to talk to like that for now. I'll send you bro. I'll send you some stuff. I think a lot of people do like British actors that sound like the Queen, but the real acting you want to try and master is like Cottney Ryman saying, it's very, very interesting, man. It's very interesting. Because I'm also a big Edgar Wright fan. And so. Oh yeah, yeah.
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah, he did. He did the, well, Shaun of the Dead. And they filmed that. And Hot Fuzz, it's all like, all that is all in. I think it's in that, in like the... Black County, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's sort of, yeah, it's sort of. Dog and Bone. I'm gonna definitely, I'm gonna start saying that. Yeah, let me call you back. I gotta be on the Dog and Bone real quick. You know what I'm gonna start saying? Yeah, that's hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Oh, man. Oh, all right. So, you know, your journey, like, what, I mean, we know where you are now, and we know what you're doing now, but like, what was your first job? like well and and And then what made you realize, okay, this is what I can i can do it my with my career? For sure, bro. So I'd say retail is the foundation of everything. like I worked more years in retail than I have in this current space that I'm in now. My first role was at a store called F. Lewiston. It was in Lewston, which is our local shopping, well, where our local shopping
00:24:19
Speaker
So there was a children's story. It was so dead. It was painful. It taught me structure. It taught me being on time. But then also just kind of like, you know, sometimes like our parents for the most part
Community Support in Career Growth
00:24:35
Speaker
work jobs that they probably hated, you know, and they just kind of told me, hey, get out and do what you need to do to make money. From there, I got a job at Abercrombie and Theatre in the Hollister. You were the front? You were the front with the shirt off? I was on the floor with my top on while I was in the stock group. Very interesting place, and I'll leave it at that. I watched the documentary. It's very interesting. Everything they said at the documentary is very, very true. And then worked at the Cocksportee. That was sick because that was like a very sportswear brand.
00:25:10
Speaker
They had some sick muddles at the time. There was a shooter, they did a little foot patrol called the Eclac and they had it in a turquoise colorway and that really made a lot of noise. That was really, really good. Probably around the same time that Ronnie Five came out with the Puma disc. And we ran that shoe as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they started going crazy with the plane. I mean, crazy that that's not back again, but that was a great, great time. I mean, we'll see. We'll see what Soleil will do with it. It's true. It's true. It's true. He might be like, all right, give me the Puma disc. Give me all the glories, the blades, whatever they're called. No, for real. Yeah. For real. So yeah, around that time. And then I started working at Calvin Klein for a bit.
00:25:49
Speaker
University, came back to London, worked there on Regent Street, which is like central London, where all the stores are. Then I went to J. Crew for some time. That was really eye-opening. I never really knew about their new balance situation. And it was crazy, the stuff that I had. I mean, till this day, I don't think another department store has better colorways than them. I mean, I'm excited. They had some serious, serious colorways. I really like I was going to mention this on Jamerson's, but we were talking about Burn Rubbers to let Burn Rubbers run with New Balance. But I think that I really am a fan of concepts, like run their run. Yeah. I'll give them that. I'll give them that. I mean, J. Crew might have been a cheat because I was told that a lot of the stuff that they had was actually Japanese exclusives rather than colorways specific to them. But I don't know how true that is. But there was one that they did, which was like a honeycomb
00:26:49
Speaker
Codab, which I think was specific to them and not just went crazy, it was like a wooden box, like amazing, amazing Codab, like great shoe. And are you like, are you still collecting like other pairs in the entire time? I can't wear them, so it's just it a waste of time, a waste of time, a waste of space. I will say though, so I used to do a lot of work with New Balance when I was at agency, and so I had to come together, loads of love to New Balance and the crew called Generation Works, I love that are my people live forever. Um, they started for run club before like it became like maybe the second wave started for run club, but it was very like, you know, you could be at a level where you could do like ah a mile a minute or, you know, it might take you 20 minutes, a mile or whatever. We all met up together, ran what spaces for marathon or half marathon, did drinks, did food, get activations, all that kind of stuff. It was really, really cool. But, um, they.
00:27:48
Speaker
They had got to a place where they actually started doing collabs with the run group as well. So they all from time to time send me stuff. And like I just keep it in the stash. It's just as a respect kind of thing. I feel like you know knocking um knocking a little marathon out just to break them
Streetwear Brands and Cultural Representation
00:28:04
Speaker
out. man it's The fingers as well, because like when my role like became kind of public facing with the live theater, it now would become such a conversation if someone saw me in another brand and be like, Did you leave back here? And it's like, oh man, I did that. I just want to wear these shoes today. Damn. Damn. Yeah. So like, how are you finding community while doing, you know, doing this or, or are you just like, you're just working through it and then.
00:28:34
Speaker
Man, it's interesting. So again, like I say, the live streaming side really kind of open up another side of the community for me. I genuinely just like to talk to people. So I'll be outside at every event, talk to people in music, talk to people in fashion, all these different places. So I just talk to people generally, but Sneaker community is very interesting. It's like, it's ah it's different in different regions. So online, it's great. Like I think the support that I've got is second to none. People really really showed a lot of love and I really appreciate every single person that was looking into those shows, get give me feedback, nice or not nice, you know, it was really really good. But I think yeah, just kind of go into like local events, like offspring will put something on, I'll go out there, speak to people. Sometimes it takes people a second to like recognize where they know me from, so like they'll they'll say something and then like
00:29:24
Speaker
they'll kind of be like, actually, I think I know where I know you from. Or like, someone would say to me once, oh, so true to you and Brighton, haven't been to Brighton in years. But he was convinced that he's seen you from Brighton because that's been a facing to you so often. He actually probably felt like I knew him like that. And he was like, my bro, I didn't see you in Brighton. I've just been watching you on sneakers live. I'm sorry, man. So that's cool, man. That happens, you know? it confused them. But I'd say finding a community isn't hard. um yeah I'd say finding a difference in opinion or finding people who are ah into more than just the sneakers is a little bit more difficult. And this is where I'll give the US a little bit more props. like They have wider communities of people who are into all things. So like it's not just sneakers. fashion ah la It's level. It's art as well. It's cinema. It's food.
00:30:15
Speaker
It's sport as well, it's all one thing and it's music too, you know? So like, you're not just into sneakers, you're into the whole ecosystem of what culture should be. And I think that is a beautiful thing. So we have it here, but I don't think we have it as big over there. And it lasts longer as well, it seems over there too. So it's like, people get to a certain age here, and then they do that thing. I'm gonna start wearing sneakers, I'm not wearing sneakers anymore. It's good for you, man. Like, I'm already sneakers forever. But like, they'll be like, yeah, man, you still wear those? I'm like, yeah, I still wear those. I still got my Krebs on. I got my Krebs all done. Unless they're crumbling or unless they're like really done, I'm not going to stop wearing them. You know, I remember I went to, I stayed in a hotel in New York one year. And I remember it was like, she might have been like a janitor or something like that. This woman might have been like 60. She had these sick phone posits on her. I had like these Soleil crocs on.
00:31:05
Speaker
And she was like, yo, those are sick. And I was like, no, your shoes are sick. And I'm quite surprised to even know what these are. Do you know what I mean? And she's like, of course. But like, again, it's just woven into one culture. It's not one thing or the other. feel i mean you never you don't talk how No, yeah. I mean like you're touching on J. Crew's like the J. Crew new balances and I feel like its impact is like the reason why it was able to you know touch other communities without it being just being like nah this is just for the the businessman.
Fashion Industry Barriers
00:31:40
Speaker
yeah you know i vi kind of started on yeah
00:31:44
Speaker
deie bingen is for sure. So then like, you know, your journey and J. Crew, like, when does music promoting come in? And you're like, you know, you touched a little bit on it, so. Yeah, no, for sure. Being Nigerian, like, you're just always lack of the party. You have a party when you're one, you have a party when you're five, ten, like, parties are always happening, so. I think it was really interesting when I started going out for the first time. um My parents did Carnival, like which is like a big thing in Notting Hill when I was younger, but it was always a whole party going on. But I went away to uni in Kent, which was like the Garden of England, so very quiet. And I mean, like, I'm from Hackney, so everything's always busting and going crazy. Kent is like, everything shuts at five, and that's it.
00:32:33
Speaker
nothing open after five. So very different life. So once you can't get no fish and chips, no or nothing you can stop if you don't do what you need to do. to start reading You don't need to do the needle. You can start a very different place, very quiet. But I appreciated it like as years went on. But when I came back, There was names of DJs and parties I was hearing of. There was hotels that would do these basement sessions that would have DJ Mustard and YG put up randomly. That's crazy. DJ EZ would play as well. Really, really crazy, crazy situations. And I was getting into the mix a bit. I was having parties down the road and all that kind of stuff. But in more local underground parties, I was hearing a couple names and I was like, yo, who's this person? Who's this person? There was one name I kept hearing. It was just AAA.
00:33:20
Speaker
And I remember meeting him and I was like, bro, this is my guy. Like, I didn't know that he was even DJing. And like that kind of thing. Like when I left for uni, he was at this tour and now like he's a bit taller. And I remember seeing that and I was like, okay, cool. And he got signed with him. Like, he knows what he's doing. And I remember saying to him, I was like, yo bro, like I've just started working agency side. Like you might want to keep doing your local parties, but there's a lot of money on the brand side. Like, you know, I'm a kid. who's from the hood. He was hearing that, like, I don't want to party with weirdos. Like, he was like, just funny, that kind of thing or whatever. ah I was like, all right, bro, what did you say? So then I remember he went to one event.
00:33:57
Speaker
I don't know what it was, the DJ was horrible. But then he heard about how much the DJ was getting paid and he was like, you got paid this amount to play this bad. He was like, yeah, let me call Will. He was like, yo, Will, can you manage me? I was like, bro, I'm barely managing my whole life, but we can, we can give it a go. You know what I mean? So started managing him, like kind of crashed and fell into it, got my boy onto it too. But then we always connected with people who are older than us. And I think that's one thing I'll never change. Um, so really, really top guy called Judah. He runs a night with another DJ called Ben Gibi and they have an act called Deviation. So he was like, yo bro, I think you guys got enough black power to kind of like throw a night of your own. I was like, cool, no problem. So I'm always that the person that will write you up the truth and get everyone excited. and
00:34:42
Speaker
We're doing this. We're going to do it. So our first shot was like a split party. We had an amazing lineup, got Carhartt to sponsor it because the OGs had the power like that. And honestly, we didn't know what to expect because we just didn't know who was going to come. It was quiet for the first hour. The venue was like, yo, man, you said you were going to have this amount of people.
Cultural Dynamics and Representation Struggles
00:35:04
Speaker
We're going to shut the second room. that this is an hour bro it hit like 12 we went outside the line is going all the way down and i was like i'm not coming outside often it's because it's going to be crazy and the venue's like yo do you need more hours we could open it for longer it's like bro shut up like you you don't even believe it enough for that just sorry about that you know so yeah but from there we kind of learned from there and then uh tried a couple other ones failed a couple times
00:35:30
Speaker
And managing DJs are still going good. But then I came across the a bunch of guys from a friend of mine who were running a day party. I've never been to a day party like that night before, but they lived in New York, so they had that vibe of like, we don't want to go out at night anymore. We want to eat, drink, and be drunk all before 12. nothing for twelve over for twelve year over twelve and mean maybe
00:35:57
Speaker
I used to come after work and I was like doing a mad rally of like drop down. Two retail jobs, no, two, one retail job, two agency jobs, and I was working seven days a week for about a year straight. Bro, that wasn't like, I wasn't making money, bro. That wasn't any money to be made like that. You know, all the roles that I wanted at Brands, the wrote the responses always like, oh, you don't have enough experience or we love what you do, but we don't know how to place you.
00:36:29
Speaker
I want to make money. I want to put my name out there. Let me just throw myself out all these things that won't go. That's crazy. If you're listening, please don't do that. I mean, I don't want to say I regret doing it. I wish I went for the smarter way, but those things helped to get my name out there for sure. For sure. But I'm pretty sure that burnout was real. No, it was crazy, bro. I'm surprised I didn't get really sick that year, which is mad. I still had time to party anyway, so after work on a Sunday, my boy would be like, yo, come to Canary Wharf, there's this day party. It was like a million girls, but it was crazy. The ratio was like three to one. It was nice. That's crazy. He would be like, yo, we want to get our DJs to play here. I'd be like, yo, you sort that out, I'm going to...
00:37:17
Speaker
and got on head But as time went on, we joined that team, they've gone on to do some amazing things. And it's, yeah, it's been like a real network of like knowing people in London who've come a long way. Definitely some setbacks in terms of like police never really want to give like black parties the right access to spaces or can past out as so as ah i you art if you can't have a line. I say bullshit everywhere really but that's I mean I've never like until I saw that Vice documentary on Skepta doing those like underground shows where he would like he had the bus and you got a lineup for the bus you got to be there for the bus and then the bus takes you to the spot
00:37:57
Speaker
And then that's the only way you can see him rock. And I was like, that's crazy that you have to go to that length in order to get this. Yeah, somehow it's still like that, man. I mean, all like, you know, he was another big artist. There was a long time where like, he just couldn't do any shows because the police would just shut it down. And given he was from a certain area, but like, he's trying to make a living now. He should be given very much. Definitely different and it's changing for a lot of people.
Fashion's Evolution and Future
00:38:19
Speaker
So it's just a good time right now. But yeah, man, that was the entry into it. And I guess, You learn a lot just watching things on the dance floor, seeing how trends come and go, all that different people's footwear. You're going to be on the floor for a long time. You better have some comfortable shoes, but you've got to look good as well. So it's interesting seeing how people put things together.
00:38:37
Speaker
what's what's the craziest fit you've seen? Or like somebody wore some like, especially on a dance floor, because I'm always like, if I'm going to the club, I'm kind of wearing like, you know, so not well, I'm not always in a club, but like, you i end up at like one of these like, DJ shows, because I like start, I've been starting to go into more of them out here. But I'm always thinking about, OK, I'm going to be on my feet for like four hours or whatever. And then I don't want people stepping on me. or i don't want And then you got to think about, OK, I can't do mesh the entire shoe mesh because somebody drops their drink on me. Then now you got wet socks. Nothing's worse than wet socks. This is how I think. I'm sorry. No, no. You're all right. You're all right. Craziest? Isn't that the wildest shoes that you've seen anyone wear to a party? Yeah.
00:39:22
Speaker
and I might have to throw myself in there, you know what I'm saying? So there was a year I managed to get access to, just before Nike, access to the Off-White Presto, Presto is here, for all white ones. The all white ones. For some reason, I thought it was a good idea to wear the carnival. um who was that maybe day It was, it it was, the shoe wasn't white anymore. The shoe just wasn't white anymore. It just wasn't a good idea. How many wears did you get out of them before you pulled them? They were bad, man. I got a lot of wears out of them. They were bad. Before you wore them. No, but cool. Let me know that. They weren't that bad at all, but after it was like, these are.
00:40:01
Speaker
He's a finish man. He's a, for Netflix legs. But like, craziest put, choice of footwear I've seen, I've seen women wear heels to a field event. Like, that is crazy. You go sinking right through. Yeah. That is crazy. You might as well just came barefoot at that point. Or wear flats. Like, and you know, it's probably going to rain in the UK as well. Very crazy. That's very, very crazy. I mean, you touched on PATA. Is PATA and Para both in the UK, or is it just PATA? Para is not from the UK. I think he's from Amsterdam, but both, yeah. Yeah. PATA's from Amsterdam, and PATA's from Amsterdam as well. The name was Swedish one too, but definitely not. Yeah. But they do, I feel like that's, I don't know of any other boutique stores, but I know that they have a couple shops. There's a PATA, yeah. There's a PATA there, but no Para.
00:40:53
Speaker
Or Colette. I don't know if you were big into Colette. Colette's yeah coette's gone now, but like yeah that was that in France. That
Luxury Fashion Meets Streetwear
00:40:59
Speaker
was amazing. yeah So I worked at a school called Present. And I wouldn't say that was fake level, but if we were going to say festivals in Europe, presenters have been up there. Jason Statham used to work at the old version of Present, which was Duffer way back. He used to work at it. What? Yeah. I didn't work with him. some of the other guys did at the time. They have some interesting- You weren't there too? Why did you just drop in the same- So there was a brand called Duffar by a guy called Eddie, and that was in Covent Garden. And they used to sell like, they were the first to sell like Stone Island and all these Japanese brands and Jason Stapleton weren't there. This is before he became bigger than Acto or whatever. And then those guys shut that store down and made a store called Presenter for the High Street. Same kind of level of taste. They were very much on that kind of putting
00:41:43
Speaker
your smart way with the trainers and what that kind of stuff or whatever. But not in a suit for the Grammys way, but more like an Ivy League way. that makes sense Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's interesting. the I mean, you blew my mind. I didn't know this. Yeah, no, no, it was crazy. It was crazy. There was a lot of great people that worked. and eddie to be And then just above us was a guy called Craig Ford, had an agency called a number of names. He had the license for Avonay, what else was there, BBC, Ambush, Bedouin and Heartbreakers. Yeah, loads of Japanese brands.
00:42:24
Speaker
Crazy. That's crazy. Because we talked about it on Jamerson's brand. and i'm Now I'm even more curious about it too because I want to know if there's like, is there any like black-owned boutiques in the UK? Or is it is it hard to be? Yeah, and there is. It's hard to be. Patter's the only one, bro. I'll keep it rolling. Patter is literally the only black-owned boutique in Europe, maybe in the UK. There isn't any others, man. That's crazy. Why is it so hard? Money and support, bro. And there's no access. I get asked the question a lot from different people. And when they ask me, I look at them, like, you know the answer. I know the answer. Why are we pretending? Well, I don't. That's the only reason I'm having to laugh about the landscape. If you live here, you know the answer to that already. And it's interesting because, you know,
00:43:19
Speaker
The conversation will always kind of happen where people talk about access, racism, who's it worse for. I think it should never be a Christian Olympic, but there are more there are more access points for creativity and being rewarded in the US from my eyes than there is in the UK at times. Not saying it's easier, but it feels like there's a better reward for like just being able to be brilliant. The, I mean, yeah, the the way that like, I don't know, like the way immigration or immigrants are looked at here and, you know, the forcibly
Social Constructs in Fashion
00:44:00
Speaker
immigrated are also looked out here are totally like, it's like so self-contained that we we know about it written in our history books, but I don't know a lot of what is about the UK and how
00:44:15
Speaker
you know, that ecosystem or that, the social, the social construct of how the UK rolls. you know oh yeah did originalal hero like did you know i mean i guess to say with hope people Send them back. Send them back watch the country crumble, literally. In seconds. In seconds. In seconds. It's smart. It's brilliant people, hard-working people in the country. It's interesting. And then when you look at like, you know, a lot of design, free of mind as well. It's from immigrant homes as well, you know. like
00:44:46
Speaker
If you look at Cortese, like, it's Nigerian. If you look at Gable Moses, Nigerian. Samuel Ross is Jamaican, like, family probably came on a windrush. Like, there's some serious, serious, like, talent here who are not from the UK. But, obviously, their parents came over. know And then you look at it from like maybe even like the Eastern European side as well from the same story too. It's crazy. Yeah. I mean, you touched on Cortese and I'm very curious because I don't, I have zero insight into how he does his things and like how that how that became such a big ah
00:45:22
Speaker
I guess, design is he called is it considered a designer or is he considered a streetwear brand? I'd say he's yeah he's a bit of both. like You can kind of see the the transition, there's a lot of the stuff he's doing where it's more cut and so as time goes on. They've got Denim now, his knitwear in there too. He's getting into kind of shirt and with some of the polos as well. You're seeing, yeah, it's really considered pieces, but he is, or the brand is like a product of being a school going through the school of just streetwear or products of their environment and soaking up all the information, making mistakes, doing better next time, and really understanding their consumer and super obsessing it. I remember when I was at present, he used to come in and buy all of the Japanese second mags, pop high, and just go through them. I feel like he, at heart,
00:46:18
Speaker
is a very light and nerdy person in terms of studying. And the people around him take it really serious. But I think that's a big example of like you know if you want to you want to go somewhere, go by a yourself, or if you want to go purple. I don't know how to say it goes, you go together. They have a real team network, and that's a serious talent in individuals. Yeah, I mean, I find his drops, because I talked about, like, I wasn't able to get any of his 95s. Oh, yeah. That was difficult. Yeah. And then he did, like, a redrop, too, where he had to go to his, and I was texting my boy, like, please go there. And he's like, it'll take me four hours to get there. And I was just like, if you love me, please do it. So I wasn't able to get anything.
00:47:05
Speaker
his, the way he drops his stuff. And I mean, we talked, we've seen the videos of the, the, uh, 34th street Manhattan drop crazy man. yeah crazy out there life was crazy Yeah. Oh, you were there live too. it's crazy That's crazy. I mean, boy. But like the way he does those drops, he''t he's been doing those drops that way in the UK for so long. So he has a cult following. And we've seen that in this time, in this current day, like were we're able to see that streetwear can have cult followings now. Definitely. So you know as you've seen the this progression to where we are now, do you have like hope and into,
00:47:46
Speaker
What we're going to see as like newer designers come out or do you feel like Cortez is like one of these like one in? Nah, I think he's definitely on the top of the game, but I think they're definitely going to be more like him. I just hope that a lot of people have the foresight to understand that their journey is not going to look like his or what it appears to look like. Because I think the i'm understanding from a lot of people is that that happened overnight and it didn't, you know. I feel like that's just a problem with social media. I feel like yeah everybody thinks that. I'm pretty sure somebody has definitely messaged you and was just like, who are you? Where did you come from? And why are you why you on here right now? yeah But now I have faith that there's a lot of like great brands coming through. and I think definitely going through like a transition of like maybe going through a fire of like
00:48:33
Speaker
all of the noise and the people that weren't really in it to begin with while starting to like be skimmed off. I think we're seeing the same in luxury as well. Like I've always said this thing where, you know luxury fashion is going through an identity issue at the moment where like they don't know if they want to be street wear, they don't know if they want to appeal to their luxury consumer. But I think people love them for what they do. So like seeing that Burberry is down by 50% and Hermes is doing amazing because they never confuse that their consumer is rich. people. It's never not going to be that and everyone wants to ah aspire to be on that level but when you start to like water down your message then it starts getting confusing you know you mess up your your top top tier consumers and then obviously the people at the bottom you don't necessarily pay for everything you're making streetwear clothes but in a lux.
00:49:22
Speaker
ticket, it doesn't make sense. It's like, look at the pride of America's Cup. I'm pretty sure that was never made for the streets, but they adopted it and made it their own. And I think that's what should always happen. Like, things should be adopted and made their own. Never make, purposely, like, for something that you're not really in in the mix of, which is weird. No, yeah. Streetwear and, like, fashion, I, well, you were touching on, you know, the confusion and I definitely, you know, I, I big up Virgil always for causing the the like the melting of the two worlds. Yeah, for sure. Because then, you know, a lot of this stuff was good just getting shitted on constantly, right? But now we're having conversations where we're like, is Kith the next polo? And it's just like,
00:50:07
Speaker
No, so well like you you can't, you can't create luxury heritage out the blue, you know, it takes time right you know so the, it's it's just interesting how like the way stuff has been like Just, it's it's a weird mountain. Everybody's climbing and it's, and it's, it's, it's curious. Cause like, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you guys had this phase where like, you know, you had, you know, you had it good or like, you know, you was on top of the heap, like top of the social status is when you had a Ferragamo belt in high school. low Yeah, we, we had that. Yeah. I didn't know what he was going to say. Yeah. i i about to lv ball to de about but yeah
00:50:50
Speaker
mars on my but style we're definitely up there yeah But yeah, I wonder what that is for kids. I guess maybe for a lot of kids it's that B2, Dior runner shoe, you know. The, um, the Balenciaga joint? No, the Dior runner. It's like the vintage running shoe. Oh, really? Yeah. It's like 900 pounds or 1,000 pounds or so. You'll see a lot of kids with tech piece on with it. There's probably a lot of fakes in the market to be fair, but even at fake that fake, I'm pretty sure, probably still like a 150, 200 pound fake. But B22 or B23, dual runner, he's definitely seen it. Every rapper had it at one point. I'm trying to look at it up right now. b two I see B25. Oh, I see it. Yeah. I see it. The Chrono, is it that?
00:51:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, where you've got a lot of foam on it and that kind of thing. And it's like, fine, it's got like a lot of foam on it. Oh, I see it, I see it. It actually kind of, yeah, it looks like a wave runner, kind of. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've actually never seen anybody in the streets with these. It's a younger thing, it's like, teen or early 20s, or like, let me not lie, it's a scammer shoe, bro. Like, you see a lot of scammers in this camera. Or like, the B30, Stone Island, it's dev edition on it as well. Check B30. B30. It's got CD on it. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen these. Yeah. I've seen these. But that would be as ugly as hell, bro. You'll see loads of rappers and scammers in them all the time. Why do, why do, like, cause like I'm, and hopefully maybe you can expand on this cause I've never gotten an answer. Uh, why do rich people like ugly sneakers? Cause you seen how big Goose ah goose Island, uh, Golden Goose guy. Yeah. You get like I've never liked any of the Balenciaga crazy like the tire-looking shoes like I don't understand it. like well <unk>ias like what's this word I think that's an experiment that no one's picking up on like that's definitely like a large experiment that he's goingnna do a hard but he's just making the shit bigger and bigger every year.
00:52:58
Speaker
but i'm generally full But people, maybe who are from the hood, and I don't mean this in a rude way, it's like, how do I let people know that I've got money? Even though I haven't come from it, it's like, I've got to put on the loudest, most brandiest shit ever. Sometimes I'm like, spoken to people and they're like, yo, I don't understand how you... what you're wearing. I was like, what do you mean? They're like, some of your stuff is expensive, but no one's going to know. I was like, yeah, because I don't want to get robbed. Do you know what I mean? Like, I like that no one knows what I'm wearing. Like, that's cool with me. They don't need to know how much my jeans, or how much my top cross is cool, that it doesn't have a big brand in it. But I like the feel of it. I like the material. I know that there's a lot of craftsmanship that's going into it. There's a great story behind it. That's all that's good for me. You know what I mean? Nah, yeah. I always say it, and I mean, I think I recently tweeted about it. It was just like,
00:53:49
Speaker
I don't know what this the like the social currency, like, what is the the top of social currency now? Because I call, like, obviously, you know, we we buy expensive stuff, we wear it, and, you know, it's to prove, is it to prove to that we have money or is it to prove that we just cool? It's either or, but I always call it social currency because if somebody notices it, then it's like, yo, oh, you're waiting for that, yo, oh my God. It's kind of turning into different things. I guess, like, at different stages it will be, Yeah, it'll be closed, but it's also tending to watches. What can you afford on a night out? How many bottles can you buy? And then sometimes it's like, yo, what's your house looking like? But all of those things, I'm like, I have a role.
00:54:33
Speaker
real consequences or like the actual situation. So I might have a watch that's like really low key, but I could cost millions, but you'll never know. Or someone can have a house and it's like, you know, they really done it. Or they could get a house just because they wanted everyone to think they have a house, but they're in super debt and they can't even keep up with rent. And all the mortgage payments and they're going to literally die before the house will pay off. So I guess it depends on where you're at, man, or what circles you're in. Because that you know I think maybe there's something that sometimes people who work in the city or wear suit and ties don't misuse money. The guys are as flashy as the next people are. you know Sometimes their vices are doing a lot of coke. Sometimes that's what their vices are.
00:55:17
Speaker
Yeah, let's spend a good amount on this. It is, bro. But on the other side, it's like young boys doing their thing, and then in the club, they're spending loads on the table that at some point, you have to leave. You can't go home with that table. You can't leave the club with them bottles as well. You know what I mean? So everyone has their vices. Man, that's crazy. I'm just thinking about like, yeah, you're right. Because I'll go out, and I'm just like, yeah, I'll spend such and such, obviously, to buy like you know drinks or like food. And then you're like, yeah, it's not coming home with me. and like i just You're using it right now. yeah legit And it's like, yeah, but you're paying for that experience. But it's not for anybody else. It's just for me. yeah yall yeah So I'd rather that instead of like, aye, I'm going to spend
00:56:04
Speaker
you know, 1500 on a, on a bell. you know i feel I mean, the craziest is when you don't actually like the stuff. If you don't like going out, but you're there because, you know, stay here. So you don't like the clothes, you're wearing it, but you're wearing it because it's going to be a conversation. That's when you have to take a look at the mirror and be like, Hey man, let's take a pause. Nobody, anybody in those positions is not going to take that part. Yeah, that's true. They're already going. Yeah, they're already on to the next, like, all right, let me see if I need to get this Vetmont pullover crop top see-through. Yeah, that's true. Like, you know? All right, well, so we're down towards the end of the podcast. I asked another question at the end, and that question deals with a little bit of visualization.
00:56:50
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um what see let's do You got the Charles Barkley Air Force Ones, right? I don't have it with me. No, i'm not with you. Not with you. But like you did get them when you were younger. All right, cool. So lets listen I want you to think about you about to open that box as you were a younger kid and about to see them beautiful Charles Barkley Air Force Ones. um Now you're you behind yourself. What would you tell your younger self as they opened that box? Keep going. Keep going. What happened? well I don't know, you know, like there's a lot of shoes that I just don't have for like, there was a Air Max 1 lumberjack pack as well. Air Max 1 don't know where those are. There's some pairs that I'm wearing. There's like these dunks from Atmos with like ostrich skin on them as well. Back. With the gum bottom? Yeah. Yo, I love those. Yo, you don't know how I've been trying to find a pair so bad. You've been so great. Bro, you're the first one to even cook that.
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Yeah, I don't know what I did with them, bro. Like, I had some serious, serious shoes and I'm just like, whoa, like, what did I do with that? Well, like, there was, like, these sambar Air Force Ones with, like, this meshy, um, filter them as well. They were, like, purple and, like, orange. Really great materials. Yeah, some really, really good bits I've had, man. But, yeah, I would tell myself, keep them, their growth shoes, uh, really epic. Don't know why I did them then. Don't know why I did them. Perfectly said man. Thanks for jumping. I'll let everybody know where they can find you as Wolfstar HOS on everything Twitter Instagram mostly for yemen also h o us give me up on the be habitat boys ah Yeah, yeah very responsive and can have a we don't we're not yelling in DMS when when we yeah we'll take We'll take three as well this time
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for And you know where to find me I am who is house on all social medias follow the podcast on my first kicks pod if you haven't my first kicks Story hit me up my first kicks pod at gmo.com and if you want to watch this my first kicks on YouTube Thanks for for jumping on well, and you know what we say every week wear your kicks. Peace