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12 Grant of @dad_crafted
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Grant makes full size Star Wars droids, prints the corner boxes of comic books, and his kids have a decked out Harry Potter bedroom including a Chamber of secrets closet. This was a fun chat, you won't want to miss it!
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https://www.etsy.com/shop/DadCraftedShop
Things of the week:
Grant: Andor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)
Droid division https://www.instagram.com/droiddivision/
Mr Baddeley https://www.facebook.com/groups/MrBaddeley/
Al: Andrew Scott https://www.instagram.com/andrewscott_art/
Jeff: Chris Jacoub https://www.instagram.com/chrisjacoub/
Patreon: http://patreon.com/digifabricators
Discord: https://discord.gg/hHp8Sv7vt4
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Backgrounds
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Hello and welcome to Digifabricators, the show where we learn how makers and artists use their computer-driven tools for fun, art, and profit. I'm your host, Jeff Stein, aka a weird guy, and with me is my talented but humble co-host, Al Schultz of New York Woodworks.
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How are you doing, Al?
Seasonal Transition and Show Purpose
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I'm doing great. Good evening, sir. How are you? Oh, pretty good. Pretty good. and Weather's getting better. Starting to feel like it might be spring.
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It's getting close. we got We got flowers popping and no snow. ah so No, we had snow a few days ago, but it disappeared pretty quick.
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Nice. Yeah, that's that's that's the... I mean, we get kind of like the fake spring where everybody thinks it's great and we take the plows off and put the shovels away and put the boots back in the closet.
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And then like a week or two later... ah Bam, here's another four inches of snow and it stays cold for another week. And then after that, we sort of trend back into the real spring.
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But that's that's Minnesota normal. Anyway, let's ah fire off the disclaimer and get started here today. Sounds like a plan. So even though we pretend to be experts on the Internet,
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I would like to point out that neither of us have any actual training and are just guys winging it in our shops and learning as we go. All advice provided is based on our personal experience and possibly inaccurate assumptions and is worth exactly what you pay for it.
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If listening to this show causes you to take out a loan to buy new and expensive digital tools, you may tell your spouse that it was our fault, but do so at your own risk.
Guest Introduction: Grant from DadCrafted
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So this episode, we have a guest who makes full-size Star Wars droids, prints the corner boxes comic books, and his kids have a decked-out Harry Potter bedroom, including a Chamber of Secrets closet.
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He's also personally responsible for getting the X-Men theme stuck in my head for the last week. Welcome, Grant, from DadCrafted. Hey, guys. Thanks for having me.
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Good evening, sir. How doing? Not too bad. Sorry about the X-Men theme song. Well, it's okay. I've had worse shit stuck in my head. And I'm prone to earworms, so it doesn't take much, you know, just something catchy.
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But I don't know what reel you had last week with an X-Men character on one of your 3D prints, but it stuck with me. I had a couple.
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X-Men and then I did a Magneto too. I just threw the old X-Men 97 cartoon theme song in there. so Nice, nice. One of those got me. Yeah. Yeah, know we've been doing Spider-Man and Daredevil recently too. So all the hits.
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So explain...
Comic Corner Boxes: Concepts and Techniques
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I usually ask questions that I think people would want to hear, but this is legit. I don't understand the corner of a comic book thing. These are really cool looking. Explain what these are.
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Yeah, so so corner boxes don't really exist anymore on Netflix. you know today's comics but back in the day when i read comic books when you went to the store and shop for comics they were typically on like a spinner rack you know it was the circular rack where you'd have all the comics stacked behind each other and when people thumb through them you can only see the top so marvel put in in the upper left hand corner they had what they called the corner box where they would put in you know it's got the issue number in the month and everything but they they did like their own little piece of artwork so
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all the Spider-Man comics had Spider-Man doing a pose, oh you know, a daredevil doing different poses. So one of my friends, uh, and this is going back several years, like, right. Probably like when I first got my, my first laser, uh, a buddy mine reached out and he was like, could you do one of these? He sent me a photo, one of the corner boxes. And I was like, you know, brought me back to my comic book days as a kid. And I was like,
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yeah, I can do anything right now. Like I could make that on the laser easy. So that kind of got me into it. I made a couple of things for him that he requested. And then, you know, people saw him on social media and then it kind of trickled down where people, other folks was like, can you make Hulk?
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Can you make Daredevil? And just, I kind of went in a spiral once I did the first one, then I just started Googling all the, I got out like my old comic books and went through, I've still got a couple of boxes comics from when was a kid.
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And got all those out and went and found a bunch of my favorites and kind of went crazy. And I've got like a wall in my basement now where I've probably got, you know, like 15 of them that I made on the laser and I hand paint them all and made them about...
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they're about like 18 inches by about seven and a half or eight inches wide probably and i just used like the one-eighth inch plywood and and they kind of layered them so that i'd have like you know a backer and then the dude and the marvel the issue number and all that stuff just kind of stacked on top of each other now way you can spray paint the pieces and then stack them yep yeah so i would do like a I thought these were 3D printed. I'm sorry. This is cool.
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Yeah. Well, yeah. but So I started all this on a laser when I first got Glowforge. And then, and I get this question all the time. So like, here's my process in a nutshell on the laser. I would take my, the, you know, your, the stuff you'd buy through the Glowforge is like 20 by 12 that fits in there.
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And I got a roll of, I think it's 12 inch and it's like a hundred feet masking tape that I get off Amazon. Yep. So I would just tape off ah one of those pieces of plywood use a squeegee to make sure it's on there really good then you fire it on the laser and then when it's done on the laser i take it outside and i spray paint all the lines black and then i peel the tape off and then i'd hand paint in between all the black lines nice okay very cool yeah but you're printing them now right i'm printing them now so that was um
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Again, like I did this and I've got a YouTube video on how I did all lasers and I did, you know, bunch different dudes, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, all the but classics, um, couple different Spider-Man, Thor, mostly good guys.
Transition to 3D Printing and Maker Community Support
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Cause that's who's in the corner boxes.
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Um, But my buddy Luke from Luke in the garage, ah he's been doing a lot of 3D modeling and everything lately. And he messaged me a few months ago and was like, dude, like, why are you not 3D printing these?
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And, you know, I was like, well, I guess I hadn't really thought about it. And he's like, just just turn those into 3D prints. Like, And I've and I've done it before where I've taken and SVG infusion and kind of played with the modeling. I just never really thought about it for these.
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Yeah. So I did it with these and there's a lot more detail in these. So it's there's a lot more bodies involved in fusion and all that fun stuff. Um, but he's been a big help too. And just like when I was running into problems, I would message him and he'd help me out. And he like, I messaged, I texted him a couple times. Then all of a sudden he just FaceTime me and he's like, just pull your computer up. And he walked me through a bunch of stuff, which is greatly helpful and saved me a bunch of time. But But yeah, I basically made a backer where I was like, what makes sense on the 3D printer?
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So instead of the bigger 18-inch size for the laser, I just did like, well, let's just do like an 8-inch by 4-inch rectangle. And then I just modeled. you know, the bottom box with the issue number. And, you know, I got a basic size for that and then just kind of started modeling all the different dudes and some of them kind of stick out of the corner box.
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So then I kind of got into that whole experiment of modeling so that they can still stick out. But then, then I just do cuts outside of the box so that they kind of like snap in place. Like some of these, I don't even need glue. I don't even have to glue them in place because they just kind of snap in.
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Yeah, I'm looking at your Ghost Rider one. That's ah that's ah yeah it's a cool and the flame The flame comes out of the box. Yep, and that one that one really just snaps right in place. That's really When you get the tolerance right, yeah well you got to get it just right on that.
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Yeah, and i with my Hulk, that's the one thing I ah didn't do, and I've tried to snap him in a couple times. i've I've broken pieces off, but what I've found is if you you go into Fusion after you do your cuts, where you've got like the indepts and the outer box, if I'm explaining that well, but like basically i just i I do an offset face of.05 millimeters, just barely anything, and then it pretty much just fits right in.
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So it's basically the same concept as an inlay on a cutting board. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Interesting. Yeah. you need You need to shave a little extra off so the pieces fit inside of each other with, you know, and just a little bit of tolerance.
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Yeah. And I see you... I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Go ahead. And I see you even have the... You printed the the the the mounting hole to hang it.
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Yeah. Right into the back of the... That was another one I had no idea what i was doing. I pretty much just Googled that and found somebody that did it on YouTube. But yeah, I made a couple circles and connected them with lines. And then you just kind of, what did I do? Like five millimeters in, in that kind of keyhole shape and then do an offset to make it so that it's got...
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a one or two millimeter thickness around so that can kind of put use a push pin a screw head or whatever. I just, I'm, they're so light. These things weigh like three ounces. Yeah. So I just, you know, little thin Brad nails is all I've got hanging them on the wall.
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But that's problem solving. I mean, that's, that's, you know, that's what makes it interesting. yeah I'm going to probably do another round of like, uh, I'm going to go back and remodel the backer to do like magnets.
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So I've had a couple of people ask for that. So then I, you know, I could probably do that on Etsy and just make it a different option and charge couple extra bucks or something if they wanted magnets to stick instead of the keyhole. Right.
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Yeah. Well, the, you can, if you're going to do a lot of keyholes, you can model the keyhole infusion and save it as an object. And then, so it would actually be the shape of the hole and the shape of the slot underneath would be the shape that you model.
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And then when you're in bamboo and you click on, uh, add negative object, instead of just picking from the cubes and the squares and the cylinders, you can pick load object.
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So you could load the object and then load in the keyhole as a negative object, place it where you want, and it'll automatically keyhole anything at that point.
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See, I feel like I need to start taking notes. But I'm i'm a total like i'm a total novice at all this. like The Fusion stuff is still... Really, really new to me.
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um yeah Like said, Luke helped me a bunch of this. I i bought um Bob's course. I like to make stuff, Bob. Yep. That's how I learned fusion. Yeah. Four years ago. Yep. I bought it probably three or four years ago.
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Um, and it was one of those deals for the first two years, at least where I bought it. I watched a bunch of the videos I did, you know, cause he kind of walks you through like building a bookcase. Right. Right. Right. I, I built that bookcase and everything and learned parametric modeling and everything. And, and then I started to make my own project. Um, there's a work bench right next to me that I modeled, but like I would do something like that and then I wouldn't touch it again for a year.
00:11:59
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So then then you'd have to start over. Yes. yes but luck But luckily, like, you know, Bob's course doesn't expire. Like if you buy it right forever, you just have to remember I had to message him to reset my password. But but once I got back in, I was like, well, I don't need to watch all the videos. I just need to remember this part. And I had to go, you know, rewatch several.
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Right. And his, and that's what I like about his too, is that, you know, there's comments on all the videos too. And you can usually see what people were questioning. Um, and just like in general, his, uh, his discord, the maker Alliance, right.
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I've been a part of that for probably like four or five years too. And that is an amazing resource. Um, there are so many people on there that like, anytime you have a problem with anything,
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I just, I go to that discord and just ask, and you will immediately have a bunch of people just like running to help you. So it's not like a Facebook group. ah No, no, no, no, not people telling you that you're an idiot. Yeah. and that you don't know what you're doing Why would you do that?
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Uh, no, why didn't you even get out of bed this morning? You're so stupid. Yeah. like people that like go out of their way to help you and we'll be like, Oh, this is already answered on this thread. And they just all automatically post a link that you can click and it'll have all the answers or they'll like, I don't know when I was doing, you mentioned my droids. So when I was trying to figure out, there's one right behind me, not that this is a video podcast, but, um, it is for me, but yeah, but when I was trying to figure out how to do Arduino and like code that thing and do all the wiring,
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um I went to those guys and just started asking questions and immediately like a couple guys answered and they're like, let's just start at a separate chat. And they like created a separate chat group on discord. And like, we went through like, they're like sending me pictures of like, this is what I wired up.
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And like, I went to bed the next morning I wake up and somebody posted a video and he's like, here's how you do it. I got it to work. Like just had a full video on how he wired the whole thing up and everything. I like, dude, this is amazing.
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Like before the internet, how how did anybody figure this out? yeah Yeah. Well, somebody that's got the hardware that thinks that stuff is a lot of fun and has got some experience in it felt like there's a challenge they can throw themselves at. And, you know, even if it's not their problem, it's like, whoa, that's an interesting problem. How can I solve that just for the fun of solving that and helping somebody out?
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I love the maker community.
Selling Creations and Learning New Skills
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Oh yeah. It's been incredible. it's It's good to have a support group with a bunch of variety of people. Yeah. And like, even with these, the, the corner boxes that I've been doing, like,
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I've, you know, i I post these on Etsy, so i'm I'm selling them on Etsy and, but I have people message me on Instagram, on Etsy, on Facebook, whatever. And like, give me recommendations.
00:14:54
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Like, when are you going to do Dr. Doom? When are you going to do Magneto? When are you going to do so-and-so? And I'm kind of going by that, like on who I'm going to do next. And I had somebody reach out, like I did, I've got a couple of different Spider-Mans, but one of them is like the the traditional Todd McFarlane upside down Spider-Man hanging upside down. I was big Todd McFarlane fan growing up as a kid in the 19 years. And I have all those old when he had his Spider-Man run and and the old amazing Spider-Man comics. And, but like when he had his run and he started Spider-Man number one, somebody messaged me and they're like, are you going to do the platinum one?
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And I was like, what? And I kind of thought about it for a minute. i was like, Oh, like, yeah, I have those. Like he has their Spider-Man number one that looks like the traditional Spider-Man costume. And then there's, he did like a platinum version and a gold version.
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They're like collector's items where the background is totally black and all the webbing and everything is in gold. And then the corner box is also, it's just a black and gold Spider-Man or a platinum and gold Spider-Man.
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And was like, I've already modeled it. Like all I have to do is go into bamboo and just change the color. It's like print. Right. Yeah. So I, did I did. And it like, it's there's one sitting here. I can show you this. You can post this later. um It's on my Instagram right now.
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This is what it supposed to be the other day, but it's like, Oh, all right. I was just looking at that. I was like, what is this? So wild. How cool that looks. Yeah. Yeah. But just like stuff like that, where this community, like they're just people that reach out and just give you ideas that.
00:16:21
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And again, Luke telling me to do this, like I probably never would have done ah all these. And yeah, I like that Spider-Man hanging upside down. I've got an idea I want to try to flesh out with that particular image.
00:16:33
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um you've You've seen the suspended prints, right? Where? Yeah. your parts are just hanging by the little strings that run across. Yeah. I want to make a, a circular frame and then put the Spider-Man hanging down in the middle and have him suspended by the web coming out of his ass.
00:16:53
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I think that'd be fucking funny. I think it'd probably break in about five minutes, but if I can get some good footage shots of it before it breaks, I think it'd be worth the effort. I just, I haven't gotten to it yet. It's on my,
00:17:07
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project maybe list but you know feel free to steal the idea i mean yeah those i haven't the modeling of those is probably still a bit above my pay grade but you know always trying to level up so you never know the threads are actually not too hard to model for the suspended prints uh because you can literally just draw the threads and model them in um The only thing that makes it tricky is that you need to have, um if you just combine all the parts together so that you've got the threads running across between your frame and your part or running across your frame to your frame or whatever.
00:17:52
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If you just do that, the way it'll slice it is that that line across will go from the edge of the frame to the edge of the frame, and it's barely hanging on by ah tenth of a millimeter connection there.
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So the only key to actually getting it so they're sturdy is that you you model the thread at say 0.4 millimeters across, and then you model hole that's 0.6 millimeters across,
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That way there's a gap on the left and the right side of the thread. And when it slices it, it'll lay the thread down on top of the frame and draw from the outside of the frame all the way across the middle and all the way across the other side of the frame.
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So that way the thread is embedded through the frame instead of just touching the edges.
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Otherwise, you just model the threads as being your nozzle width, increments of your nozzle width wide and increments of your layer height high.
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And then you just give it a little gap on the left and right sides. And that prevents the slicer from drawing it across the gap it draws it across the frame then across the gap and then across the frame so that way both ends are firmly anchored gives you a lot more support otherwise you just model little rectangles that are point four across and point too high and as long as you fucking need it and they're just extra bodies and they just get printed
00:19:50
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you're you're probably You're probably still above my pay grade with all that. But someday. He's above most people's pay grade. Well, I know a lot about the things that I've specifically dove into to figure out.
00:20:05
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And I mean... There's some things that I look really, really good at, and it's because those are the things I've been specializing in for the last four years. now Disco dancing.
00:20:19
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Yes, exactly. Breakdance. Exactly. Some of the crazy fixturing and...
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the the crazy c andnc fixuring and ah stuff like that that I've done was because I've been doing that specific niche of that kind of art for the last four years. and And then you get good at it.
00:20:43
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But I mean, that doesn't make me a better person. It just means that I've specialized. And if you want to knock me back down to earth, ask me what my welds look like because they're really bad.
00:21:01
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Well, that's the thing about all this making is this like, you know, we were bad at everything when we start and, I don't kind of talking about some of this on my stories last night where I'm, I'm in the process of making another droid right now.
00:21:15
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And I'm just like, and someday i do want to like design my own droids and I do want to make, you know, way more advanced stuff in fusion and try to print my own
Star Wars Droids and Digital Making Journey
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thing. Um, right now I'm making like droid division and, and, uh,
00:21:28
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Mr. Baddeley on Patreon, he makes all like the astromech droids, printed droids like R2-D2 and Chopper and all the Star Wars droids like that. um But just like making those and assembling those, printing all those and assembling and like realizing how they designed these and how they do all the joinery of the droids, whether it be their, you know, elbows and knees or whether it be just like last night making driving myself nuts, putting a ah foot drive together. That's like an R2D2 foot that's inside. It's like the thing that's inside the shell that holds all the gears and the wheels and all that. And it's like 15 different printed parts and it's got gears and spindles and just like the amount of thought that went into all that.
00:22:15
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And I never, never would have been able to dream this stuff up up on my own. But now when you see it and do it on based on what other people have done, you kind of like, Oh, That makes sense. And now I think about, and just even things like the way that when they do assembly of putting two things together, like they've got like,
00:22:33
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They put in tiny little slots in the model that when you're done and you print with no supports and then you put in little um like three millimeter square nuts that are like M3 size and you insert into those holes. And then when you put the other piece, then you take your M3 that's 15 millimeter, 20 millimeter, whatever, and you screw into that and it'll go right through the hole and into that square nut. And the square nut fits so perfect into that slot It's hard to say on a podcast. i don't know if that's making sense, but like yeah the way they design that so that the square nut fits perfectly in there that when you screw it in, the square nut isn't moving and then everything just locks in. It's like, man, that's brilliant. Like I never would have thought of things like that, but now.
00:23:16
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jumping ahead to like how I want to design stuff for myself. Totally to steal that idea. Yeah, absolutely. Well, right. Do you steal like an artist? Yeah. Well, that's kind of what I'm doing with all these corner boxes and stuff too. That's part where I feel a little weird. It's like, you know, it's other people's art that I'm just kind of redoing, but,
00:23:36
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yeah but you're not you're not you're not claiming that you designed the art oh no yeah you're paying you're paying homage to a to a time yeah and and i am i mean i do like redraw all these like that's the other thing too of like i didn't just like download an svg off google like i do have a so all of my all of like the the art that I've done on the laser and all these corner boxes and basically anything that I did with the Harry Potter bedroom.
00:24:05
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like i have a I have Procreate on my iPad. and so and I have an Apple pencil and I basically just, I draw on that thing and I take those and then I convert them into SVGs and Inkscape and then you know either bring them into Fusion or bring them out of the laser to do the cut and engrave lines and everything like that. so there is a level to it, even though it's, you know, definitely inspired, not, you know, thinking of other art. So, yeah.
00:24:34
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So quick, quick and dirty, like you've mentioned, lasers and 3d printers and all that quick and dirty introduction, like, What are you running now? How'd you get started in digital? Did you like walk past a radio shack but with a comic book and decide that this is what I want to do? Yeah. Well, I mean, like, I feel like I miss, I always, I say this all the time, but I still remember radio shack.
00:24:59
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Remember? Yeah. ah We've dated ourselves. Those were the days. Yeah. It's just Amazon when you back when Kmart was around. Yeah. youre With the blue light special. Yep. Yeah.
00:25:11
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But no, and back like when I, you know, used to have to go to comic book stores and sift through the spinner rack. um But no, i would I always wanted to be like a comic book artist as a kid. And then, you know, I i was never...
00:25:25
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I don't think I was ever good enough. I still would have loved to go to school for it just to try it, but that didn't work out, but whatever. But like, I can take a picture and look at it and I can totally like replicate it.
00:25:38
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Just like have it off to the side and draw on my piece of paper and make it look almost identical to the thing I'm looking at. I'm really good at that. But like me taking just my own brain and trying to do my own Spider-Man pose or whatever, I was never, I was good, but I was not,
00:25:53
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great, but not good enough to do like what, you know, the Todd McFarland's and all those people in the world do. But that's kind of what I wanted to do. And, you know, as life goes, don't how to make a long story short here, but, you know, kind of fell out of making for a long time in my twenties.
00:26:08
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And then kind of got back into it when a buddy of mine, we like kind of made some like cornhole boxes and I was like, I should decorate these. And I painted, you know, being, I live in Iowa, and painted like Iowa Hawkeye stuff, Herky the Hawk and stuff on them.
00:26:22
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Big into mascots. So I kind of got back into making, doing stuff like that. And then, don't know, I started this dad crafted thing about six-ish years ago, um just as kind of a way to, you know, have an excuse to make stuff and kind of intended to be focused on just woodworking. And, you know, I thought I was going to make cutting boards and mallets and stuff like that and try to make money. But...
00:26:48
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I'm not the person that really likes to like just make cutting boards over and do the same thing over and over again. You know, come on this kick of doing these quarter boxes. Now this will be over in a month. Like I'll be on to something else something else. I won't want to do this anymore.
00:27:02
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But like, uh, I got a laser probably, don't know if it's been three years or four years now. I went to work bench con, um, several years ago.
00:27:13
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I didn't go this past year. I'd been the three years before that. So however long that's been, um, but met up with some friends, met new friends, had a good time. um and I had a really long conversation with a few people, including like, uh,
00:27:30
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Nicole and Turi from When Geeks Craft, they're not too active on social media anymore. um But they were there that year. And then like Wes from Geeksmithing. And we kind we had this big, long conversation in the lobby as you do at WorkMetchCon, have a bunch of cocktails too late in the morning.
00:27:48
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But like we had this big conversation on, would you buy a laser or a CNC? Because I didn't have either at the time. and I was really leaning towards CNC and Nicole kind of was like, I really think you should get a laser.
00:28:01
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Like for what you do and all the art stuff that you like, like you could make stuff out of wood and use the laser to engrave the cool stuff on it. And, So she, cut I mean, we went back and forth a bunch, but then eventually she kind of twisted my arm and convinced me that the laser was the way to go.
00:28:18
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And I actually got the Glowforge. um Well, while I was at WorkbenchCon, I got secret information from people there that the price was about to jump by $1,000 on every single model.
00:28:29
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So whatever year that was, it was 2021, maybe 2022. But yeah, that was right before the price went up by a lot. I got it like $1,000. about 14 days before they hiked all their prices and probably helped kill their business. But, um, but I've, I've really liked the glow for just ease of entry and, you know, being able to, you know, just vent it out the window, having my basement shop.
00:28:54
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You still want to go forge. i am I do have a WeCreate now. um They kind of reached out to me. A friend of mine gave him my name and said that I probably... i'm I've been telling people i'm scared my Glowforge is going to die because I've had it for yeah four
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00:29:10
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years now. So I'm right kind of scared it might seem less life.
00:29:14
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yeah Yeah, for four or five years seems to be the... And the cost of the cube is not worth replacing. Yeah, well... in Four years. I got off to a bad start with them too. Cause like the one I got in the mail, it was broken. And then we had a big like back and forth about.
00:29:29
Speaker
So what's the, what's I'm sorry. but What's the, we create. Is that another, like a tabletop desktop? yeah Yep. So forty it's a, it's a 40 watt they had. And then like, yeah, they, they shipped me this 40 watt and, and I, well, it's fine. I'd asked for a few more things.
00:29:47
Speaker
They were like, well, let's do this. And it's a content does well. I agree to do like, eight reels or something um yeah and they're like well if it does well maybe we'll ship you the spindle and the pass through and all that fun stuff i was like yeah whatever it's fine Yeah. yeah Freelance. I'm not going to complain.
00:30:04
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but Sure. no Is it similar similar size work area? It's a little bit smaller. Like the Glowforge, the pieces are 20 by 12, but the actual cut area on the Glowforge is more like 19 by 11, maybe a hair under 11.
00:30:17
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um This one's more like 15 by 12-ish. So I think I've got a little bit more on the width or the height, but not as much on the width. Yeah.
00:30:29
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um but i've been pretty impressed with it really and not i don't want to sound like a shill or anything the old the downside is i found out after the fact that they don't recommend cutting clear acrylic and that's like my big money maker with my glowforge on etsy is i make clear acrylic like night lights yeah um yeah and just like the things that fit in the little puck lights yeah so why do they not recommend that i don't know and is it a co2 No, it's a diode. and And a glow forage is CO2, right?
00:31:02
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Yeah, that's a difference. That's a difference. Yeah. So, but they were like, well, black or blue, that's fine. It's like, oh, yeah.
00:31:13
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Is it a reflective issue? i don't Well, I tried messing with settings and i just like when I try to cut through it, it just kind of melts and doesn't... you know yeah and then aware I haven't tried with it too much because I was just like, well, let's message them. And then she came back to me and told me that like they don't recommend it. and I'm like, well, maybe I'll get on Reddit.
00:31:30
Speaker
That's the problem. it's It's a newer laser, so like there's not a ton of information out there as far as like when you try to go on Reddit or just Google like what settings should I use for this. So there's been more experimentation with it.
00:31:42
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but you can cut colored acrylic. Yeah. They've got settings in there for like different, like green acrylic and black acrylic that you can cut and engrave. That's gotta be a wavelength thing. Yeah.
00:31:54
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And I, again, on a diode I'm sure if I play with it more, there's more, cause they said that they, they can cut through that acrylic with like up to, think she said 15 millimeters with one pass.
00:32:06
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Like that seems like a, like that's a typo, right? Like, i don't I don't have my gauge. 15 millimeter sounds like a lot. Well, I'm just... I mean, like, my acrylic the for the nightlights is, like, three, right?
00:32:17
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Yeah. It's, like, eighth inch.
00:32:22
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So, I... Yeah, that seems like a lot. it's weird. But that's the... I mean, I use the Glowforge for, you know, like, you mentioned the Harry Potter closet, like, all these corner boxes. Like, I use the Glowforge for all kinds of stuff like that, and...
00:32:35
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And that's 15 millimeter. Yeah. That's gotta to be, that's half inch.
00:32:43
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Maybe she meant 1.5. Oh, I got a damn gauge right here, dumbass.
00:32:50
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But but like my like I said, the big moneymaker with that Glowforge for me, for Etsy, has just been those nightlight things. And if I can't do that, was like, eh, maybe I need to find something else. But so far, it's been good. And I've got um my neighbor's a realtor, so I do some things for her as far as and then some of her other realtor friends. She's given them my name, so I do a lot of like, they'll bring over they'll go buy like a cutting board from TJ Maxx for $10.
00:33:16
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And then bring it over here and like, can you engrave this person's name on it? and See, I tried to do this years ago. Contacted several realtors. Yeah. And i don't I don't know, something about this area I live in.
00:33:29
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Like, there's so much money here, but nobody's spending it. You know what i mean? like Everybody's like, yeah. I literally... not, not, not the realtor thing, but I, I approached a local cabinet maker and just introduced myself with that maker mind, you know, that we were talking about at the beginning of the show where everybody helps everybody.
00:33:50
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So I introduced myself, said, you know, so-and-so I'm literally right around the corner. I got a large format CNC. If you ever run into trouble or need help on a project, I'm happy to, you know, help you out.
00:34:02
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And, He just kind of smiled and shook my hand and said, thanks, but I'm not in business to make anybody make people money. And I was like, wow, that's really weird because that's exactly why I'm in business.
00:34:14
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You know, so it's like there's just no – it's weird that – Yeah, doesn't want to help anybody but yourself. Yeah, nobody wants to. I was like, okay. so I didn't say thank you very much, but I did say very much to you. Yeah.
00:34:30
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But, it yeah, the whole the cutting boards and the ah like coasters you know for realtors. like i i so tried to sell them on I've approached restaurants for like bread serving boards and stuff like that. We've got a lot of high-end eateries around here.
00:34:45
Speaker
Nothing. nobody i did some brewery taps you know for for there was like a season you know like a year that breweries were going bank gangbusters and uh i've got tap handles on the ceiling up here you know that i carved yeah but yeah finding that niche that's why i was like i'm really happy for you that you found like the the corner boxes and things like that on etsy because i haven't had any luck there either you know Yeah.
00:35:10
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I mean, kind of, sorry. good Oh, as I say, I, I stumbled upon like the nightlight thing. I don't even, know I remember the first time that I thought of that idea, but my brother and I, um, my brother runs, uh, there's a long story about him too, but, uh, he runs a haunted house in Winterset, Iowa. It's like, um, it's called zombie hollow.
00:35:34
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Everybody go follow them. Um, But he he's a big you know child of the eighty s loves you know grew up loving G.I. Joe and Transformers and all that stuff.
00:35:45
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yeah And there's there's a local Iowa um annual G.I. Joe festival. Wow. um And it's like the last few years it's been at the Wells Fargo Arena or the Hy-Vee Hall or whatever. the Kind of a bigger deal. like it's been It's grown over the last several years and they get some...
00:36:04
Speaker
Like they have some of the pretty big, you know, if there is such a thing as GI i Joe celebrities, but anyway, long story short, like he talked me into go on one year and like he print 3d printed a bunch of basically GI Joe toys, you know? Yeah.
00:36:17
Speaker
And then was like, you should make a bunch of stuff on your laser. So I was like brainstorming trying to make, so I, I made some artwork based on like the old toys, like the toy backers of your, you know, snake eyes and Duke and Cobra commander and Destro and all those guys. Yeah.
00:36:31
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Um, so I had the, and about the same size of my corner box, you know, kind of like an 18 by eight inch type thing. Um, and try it selling those. But then I was like, maybe I'll try to make like a nightlight type thing. So I just did like the the Cobra insignia yeah and put that on a nightlight. And I, I cut a ton of those and took them there. And I think I sold like two, like nobody really looked twice at them. And these are like the diehard GI Joe people, you know? So I was like, don't know, that was kind of a wash.
00:37:00
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So I had a bunch of these when I got home and I was like, I'm just going to put them on Etsy and they all freaking sold. And then I was like, well, I have this file. Like, I'm just going to order a bunch more of these pucks ah because they just fit in a puck light.
00:37:12
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And I'm like, if anybody orders one off Etsy, I don't even have to keep an inventory. I'll just click go on the laser. And then I'll put it in the package the next day and ship it out. I don't have to keep inventory at all.
00:37:23
Speaker
And I have sold so many of those stupid Cobra lights. i I might have sold out the market because i honestly, I haven't sold. I don't know if I've sold but like one or two since Christmas.
00:37:34
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But Honestly, I think I've probably paid for my Glowforge just selling those Cobras. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually, i have an Etsy shop. It's asleep right now or on pause or we're suspended or whatever. it's been that way for year or so.
00:37:51
Speaker
But I, you know, you put some some crazy cutting board inlaid cutting board up there, you know, and the first three messages are, you know, you can buy cutting boards at Walmart for $14. Yeah. Really?
00:38:03
Speaker
like really You literally took the time and effort to send me that message. Yeah. Does good for my algorithm too. Thanks. yeah Yeah. I've tried to post cutting boards a few times where I lasered certain things on there. Like I you know do the thing like I'm doing for my realtor, go buy the cheapo $14 Walmart cutting board and and then laser something funny or clever on it. And they just, they don't move. I mean, I've sold a few, but it's not really, I've got to a point where i'm like, eh, that's not even really worth my time.
00:38:30
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I'll do it for the realtors. Like when she brings stuff. Sure. Yeah. but Right. There's um I murder my vegetables here and you know, there's a lot of those out there for cutting board smart assery.
00:38:45
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah. On the Alibaba bamboo boards that they bought 100 of for $12. Yeah. yeah Right. ah And even if you had a good idea, some other asshole would buy cheaper boards, laser the same shit on there that you get did, and then undersell you.
00:39:04
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Yeah. And then Etsy would advertise their shit on your page. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Because that makes fucking sense. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, i mean. That's one of the reasons I don't have an Etsy.
00:39:18
Speaker
Well, I have the Etsy just again to help pay for the laser and support like when I started all this, the whole point was like, can I make enough money to like make a car payment? Like that'd be cool, right?
00:39:29
Speaker
If I had enough money coming in every month to make a car payment and I don't even, I'm definitely not even doing that over. the last you know six years not even close i've done better the last year um and these corner box things are doing pretty well but you know i could get a i could get a disney cease and desist litter any moment so any i was gonna say you never know but i keep getting people ask me of like when are are you gonna release these files like you're gonna release these files for me to print and i'm like i don't want to gatekeep but at the same time i'm like this is like paying
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00:40:02
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for my hobby. Like I'm probably gonna buy another 3d printer from the money that I'm making for this.
00:40:07
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And I really like that new bamboo printer. I'm not making that much money yet, but like, I don't know. Part of me is like, do I do a Patreon? Should I do a Patreon and just put them on there? And if people,
00:40:18
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keep on paying five bucks the lawyers won't find them on a patreon yeah exactly you know because i mean i've been you know i'm a patreon of several other creators um was a patreon of you know galactic armory for a long time that do all the star wars helmets and they do all kinds of other like halo and other video games that i don't play or care about i'm not a patron anymore because they don't do any star wars stuff anymore it's all video games i don't play but like they had like every star wars helmet And I kind of thought, like, how does how doesn't Disney come after you guys?
00:40:52
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And they've got like nine or ten thousand Patreons and it's one level. It's like 15 bucks a month. Like nice. that is yeah because i got an email I got an email for putting a Mickey Mouse fireman on a growth chart ruler on an Instagram post.
00:41:09
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That's crazy. and i Well, I got an auto takedown from an Etsy post on ah on a Harry Potter thing once on my laser. Because I said the words Harry Potter and I was like, go search Harry Potter on Etsy and see how many thousand things pop up that are obviously not Warner Brothers. Tens of thousands. We had a problem mind just because... yeah this thing that's never had a sale that you'd write it down the first day.
00:41:36
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Come on. Yeah. I have a, I have a wanted wiard wizard poster file up there that doesn't say anything about Harry Potter, but that's probably why I've only sold like a handful in two years or whatever. It's because they haven't found them because it doesn't say a Potter on it.
00:41:49
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Yeah. So, So you have lasers, two lasers now, diode and and a CO2. 3D printer is a bamboo, I'm assuming. Yeah, i've got I've got two bamboos. i have the A1 with AMS, the multicolor printing. i have a P1P.
00:42:06
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I've had that PA1P for year and a half now, almost two years. I got the AMS last summer for the P1P. um And that thing is a freaking workhorse. Like I have...
00:42:21
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I have run that printer nonstop. Like the amount of filament I did my taxes a po and the amount of Amazon orders I have for, i buy Elegoo filament, like all my stuff that I make, I paint like until I started doing this corner box stuff. I just buy black filament or white filament. Cause I just, I prime and paint everything. So I don't care.
00:42:45
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And Elgu would sell their filament. Like they'd have deals all the time where you get a four pack for $42 or $41. I'm like, okay. a four pack for $42 about a week and a half ago, but I think normal price is 48.
00:42:58
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Yep. Yep. But yeah, it does go on sale for 42 from time to time. But yeah, the amount of filament I bought last year, it's obscene. Like, I'm almost, like, embarrassed ah about that.
00:43:12
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But, but, I have several droids to account for, and I'm someday going to have the YouTube videos out on how I made those, and hopefully that will help make some of that back.
00:43:25
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How many rolls of filament go into that droid standing behind you there? Okay. So I have a behind me for the people are just listening, which is everyone, but you two, um, he is taller than me. I'm six, two and a half. He's about six, four. He's a B one battle droid from episode one, man of menace, um, and many other star Wars properties, but he want say 12 rolls of filament.
00:43:52
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twelve rolls of filament
00:43:57
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That's amazing. It might be more than that, depending on if you print more infill or more walls. I've learned a lot too about make sure your walls matter more than your infill and don't mess around with that.
00:44:10
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But yeah, I have two of him that are full size now that stand up and he moves. I did the animatronics and learned Arduino and stuff. So his head moves back and forth and up and down.
00:44:23
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That's amazing. And then I have three pit droids that are about three feet tall, three and a half feet tall. um Actually, he's probably bigger than that.
00:44:34
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Looking at him over there, he might be four feet tall. but you saw those Do you sell these or these are your personal projects? Again, my brother runs a haunted house and that's kind of my excuse for how I get away with this.
00:44:49
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um but you're making it for the haunted house yeah absolutely yeah so it's a star wars haunted house now well it's it's a haunted house with it's a haunted trail actually it's outdoors um and it's got different sections that you walk through like it's it's on like two acres but we kind of built it so that we everything's fenced off so that you kind of s and snake all over the place so it seems like it's like a a quarter mile walk. Yeah.
00:45:19
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yeah But, yeah but you're so wrapped back and forth that it's obviously not a quarter mile of area. Um, but we have like, there's like a witch area and there's a scarecrow area and then there's a stranger things area.
00:45:32
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And then we made a star Wars area because originally like the piece, so he's been open two years. Um, and the first year, like he lost money cause he had to spend a ton of money on infrastructure and you know, the amount of my God,
00:45:45
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The electrical alone was probably a third of his budget to run because it's everything everything's well lit. it's It's at night, so everything's got to be lit up. The trail's lit up. um But then like the amount of fence posts and concrete to put the fence posts in and all that fun stuff to do all that fencing.
00:46:00
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It's a lot. Yeah. we have all this star wars like we're both big star wars nerds so i was like dude like we have to do a star wars area just we'll just call it smuggler's alley or something like that we won't reference star wars but we'll just put all our crap out there and yeah so we and some of it's probably delicate crap you know not weatherproof so we built a couple like shacks that have metal roofs that are weatherproof ish you know not hurricane proof but if it rains whatever they'll stay dry and it's fine if we knew the weather was going to be bad and then we just haul them into his shop
00:46:32
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yeah and he's got a mega shop at his place so but yeah we've got he 3d prints as well so we've got he's got a full-size seven feet tall ig ig 11 droid and i've got these guys now i've got three of the pit droids these two dudes um we both bought the stormtroopers from home depot this year the full-size stormtroopers the christmas ones that talk We're going to rip the guts out of those and make them take away the Christmas stuff and make them say more Star Wars-y stuff.
00:47:04
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and then Or something inappropriate. yeah Or, yes, probably that. at least At least for the real, and then reprogram it for the kids later. And then we're going to have, I'm working on this astromech droid now, and I'm playing in the second one before October.
00:47:21
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And then hopefully before Andor, which is only two weeks away now, I'm going to have a full-size K2SO droid. so And he's seven feet tall.
00:47:32
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What's Andor? What's Andor? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I don't own 3D printer either, so <unk>ies if we're going to throw shade, you might as well get it all. you ever Did you ever watch Rogue One?
00:47:47
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No. No? No. Well, Rogue One was a Disney movie that came out several years ago, and it was the story of before the first Star Wars. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. yeah How they stole the Death Star plans.
00:48:02
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Okay, got that. That's what that movie is. I did see that. And that's when they introduced K2SO, who's a big black droid that's seven feet tall and is a smartass. Got it, got it, got he's like my favorite Star Wars droid. And there's guys at Droid Division that sell the on Etsy. You can buy the files for him.
00:48:18
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And he is huge. And he is... i am tracking the filament as I go, and I am probably getting close to 20 rolls of filament, I bet. Jesus. Wow. He's huge.
00:48:31
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Like his feet are probably like size 13 or 14 like shoe. Like it's and what's the print? What's the print area? So like how many pieces is this?
00:48:41
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Oh, a lot. Like, hundreds ah yeah, for sure. The base alone, I think was he's got a base that you can stand him on. ah don't have to print the base like he will stand up on his own.
00:48:54
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But I'm printing the base because we're going to put him at my brother's and I don't want some idiot knocking him over. And you run like basically conduit, metal conduit through his legs and through his shoulders and stuff that kind of the pieces of his arms and legs will slide over those and that helps sturdy him up. And we'll have him like cable strapped to a wall so that somebody can't like yank him over.
00:49:14
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um But yeah, that base alone was probably three rolls of filament, I think. Yeah. I can't. And it's a diameter of, you know, it's like three feet diameter.
00:49:28
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It's incredible though. its I mean, it's it's amazing. the The guys that do these, I just, I love it. The Droid Division files are so cool. The other part that really impresses me, I mean,
00:49:39
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I've never been really fond of paint paint never really agrees very well with me. I don't have good luck with it or I just haven't yeah earned good skill with it or I haven't bought good paint.
00:49:52
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Those are all good excuses for being bad at something. But I print stuff with the AMS and when it comes off in blue and red and yellow,
00:50:06
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that's what you fucking get. I mean, they're aftercare for me is breaking off the damn supports, gluing the pieces together if necessary, doing a little bit of trimming here and there, and then setting it down on the damn table.
00:50:22
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yeah So what impresses the hell out of me is when you take 120 pieces droid and then you put it together and then you like, bondo the seams and you sand that shit down and then you paint it and then if you go the extra distance to freaking do the weathering and shit to make it look like it's not a brand new pit droid off the factory that this son of a bitch just came in out of it ah torah duty you know yeah and that that just blows my mind how you can go from ah
00:50:56
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all the pieces up to something that is fully coherent piece with no but part lines. And it looks like it's been wandering around in service for six years and getting beat up.
00:51:14
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Well, that's that's like the easy part, though. Like, honestly, that's the cool thing about making Star Wars droids is that they're supposed to look gnarly and grimy. So like if I don't have my Bondo perfect, it doesn't matter.
00:51:26
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it Right. It kind of looks normal. Like it looks in universe because this looks abused. Yeah, it looks abused and it looks like somebody rewelded it together. And that's kind of part of the appeal. I love distressing anything.
00:51:38
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Yeah. Yeah. And actually, so the dude, bought the B2 droid behind me, when I made those guys, I, I did, you know, I didn't sand every part, but like his head and his torso, I kind of, those are the parts that most people look at. I wanted, but like his fingers and all that, I didn't bother with that, but like,
00:51:54
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i I primed him, sand, paint, and then when I do the paint, I just pick like a beige, whatever, Rust-Oleum spray paint, and then I just covered him in wood stain. I just used regular walnut wood stain, wiped it on just like you would wood, let it sit for a few minutes, wipe it away, but not wipe it away as as much, just kind of rub in random patterns and swirls and stuff, and he looks totally weathered.
00:52:18
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And then I just do like a spray poly, just give him a couple coats of that, and perfect. He can stay out in the rain and looks great. Hey, Kohler has made billions of dollars with that hand rub bronze finish but that you just did to your droid.
00:52:35
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but Wood stain on a 3D print. It works. We do it on skulls all the time too. Like when we make skulls at my brother's haunt. i was what So yeah, i'm looking at this. The stranger's helmet is really cool.
00:52:48
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Yeah. Yeah. Like that thing looks like just straight. That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. And again, that was the Galactic Armory file too. Okay. So you, so you do do skeletons and skulls and monsters 3d also for the, for the haunted house or trail.
00:53:04
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, he does a little bit everything and I help, you know, help sparingly. He's, um, he's four years older than I am, but he has like the energy of a teenage or a seven year old really.
00:53:21
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Um, he's like non nonstop. He's go, go juice all the time. um But he will make, um he did some, like, so we did an organist last year.
00:53:33
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So think of like the Haunted Mansion. He's a big fan of Disney, big Haunted Mansion ride fan. um But there's an organist in there. And he found like the ah pictures of the people taken of the organist's head.
00:53:45
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Well, then he used those pictures to model it himself out of clay. So he took like your, what is it? Like ah a styrofoam head that you can buy from Walmart for a few, but a few dollars, like a mannequin head that's made of styrofoam.
00:53:57
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He took that, covered it in and aluminum foil and then use modeling clay around all that. And then he totally modeled it to look like that dude. And it looked pretty freaking good. Like he brought it over to my house and was like, look at this thing.
00:54:10
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And then i because again, 3DDI way Dave twisted my arm or convinced me this was awesome. I bought my own 3D scanner a few years ago and i' baly I've barely used it.
00:54:24
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I should use this thing way more. But I was like, we need to scan this head that you've modeled. And then we'll just 3D print it and we can make a bunch of them. So he's got several of these heads. Now we, we scanned it, 3D printed it.
00:54:38
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And now it's like several different characters in the haunt. It's the organist. It's one of the cowboys. It's one of the pirates. Like we've got it all over the place. And now he like, he will take that clay then.
00:54:49
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and keep it wet, he'll rip it off, and then he'll just model another head. So that's kind of our plan this spring and summer is that he's going to keep modeling these different character faces. And I'll just 3D scan it.
00:55:00
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And then we'll hopefully, I think too, he's going to start an Etsy and we might start selling all the different files, like 3D print files. So if people want to make these creatures. I was going to say, this is now but this will be public now, but people lose their minds over these 12-foot skeletons.
00:55:16
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Oh, yeah, we've got one of those. Break that down and it's all a 3D file. Right. That'd be cool. Sam or Monday would buy it immediately. Yeah, for sure.
00:55:28
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So what's what's your experience with the scanner? How do you feel about that? Does it work really well? Is the software pretty solid or does it leave holes and software there so Okay, so this kind of like what I said about Fusion before, like I don't use this a bunch. So every time I do use it, I've got to like relearn the software.
00:55:49
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That's my biggest complaint is the software is not intuitive. It's like, You know, I should be able to like easily click an area that, okay, like if I'm scanning something and it's sitting on a pedestal per se, and when I'm done, I want to just highlight that pedestal and delete, cut, whatever.
00:56:10
Speaker
Right. That should be pretty intuitive, right? you No, no. Like the way that they have this design and the thing you have to click and you have to hold shift to drip like, there's just so many things that it's like, who designed this? So that, but, but like anything else, there's plenty of YouTube, you can YouTube it, you can search it.
00:56:31
Speaker
You just have to watch enough videos to remind yourself how to do it. So it works. It's fine. But I think like even, You can't do like all the post-processing, like anything that we scan. So recently I was just at his house this weekend, kind of doing like a little planning session for what we're going to do this year. But while we were messing around with robots and animatronics, um I did scan a couple. He's got a few Disney characters that are like the the hitchhiker dudes that are out front of the Haunted Mansion.
00:56:58
Speaker
There's three different dudes. There's Gus, Phineas, and somebody else. But he's got statues of these guys that are like three feet tall, but he only has two of them. But we're we want to scan those in and then I'm going to try to take them into bamboo or something and split them into different parts and then use, you know, use dowels, put dowels in models and stuff. So if somebody wanted to print it in 12 to 15 parts that they could print it.
00:57:24
Speaker
um So we're probably going to do that this year. But again, like I scanned it, I got it in the software and everything. but I feel like I'm gonna have to bring it into something like blender or something else to do a bunch of touch up work that I, that you just can't do in the, the actual nine star software, star, whatever they call it, but it's a nine star 3d scanner.
00:57:44
Speaker
I'd like a scanner. I really would. ah It's fun. I mean, it's cool. I just, for as often as I'm going to use it and as, as as much money as I'm not going to make by having one. Yeah, I have not made my money back from mine.
00:58:02
Speaker
Well, I haven't made money back from anything because I don't manage to sell anything to anybody for any kind of money. And so... I would just, you know, I mean, the the cost of the scanners is starting to drop. I think there's a bunch more brands coming out and with the more brands there are the more competition and the prices drop and people figure out how to redo the components and stuff so they work better and cheaper and they're They're getting down to the point where I can almost justify throwing hobby money at it.
00:58:37
Speaker
But, no. But ah it is it is perfect. It is not like some of these other things where you're like, oh, use your phone to take a photo and turn it into an STL. No. like You scan something with this scanner, and it is freaking perfect. like Everything down to the tiny little holes on the buttons on your shirt.
00:58:56
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like it is wow It is crazy the amount of detail that these things can do. And we did that. Like said, we did one of these dudes. It's the hitchhiker guy. And I tried to bring it into bamboo right off the bat.
00:59:09
Speaker
and it's it's the full size so it bamboo is trying to open this thing that's a three and a half foot tall dude like when it finally opened it's like this huge thing i'm like yeah maybe we need to rethink how i'm gonna there's a little red warning down in the corner and says object has exceeded place does not does not fit does not fit it's like we know what printer you have but yeah, the amount of detail, like when Dave scanned me with this thing, cause I think it's the one I have is the same one he got because when he was there, I met him at a, I think we were talking about this before we hit record, but I met Dave at, um, I mean, I'd met him online and stuff, but I met him in person.
00:59:50
Speaker
Um, there was a Chicago maker meetup and this is going back a few years, but he was there and, um, Luke in the garage and Dick Birch told, showed up and he was, uh,
01:00:02
Speaker
He brought his 3D scanner and he, when he showed up, he was like, he told everybody he was going to scan them for the maker scan project that he does where he scans. Everybody does a full body scan. Um, and, but he said, he was like, can you guys like not shoot any video or share any stories of me doing this? Because this is like their new scanner that they've given me and they're not launching it until next week.
01:00:29
Speaker
And I can't, I have an NDA and I can't like be seen with this thing. So like everybody had to like do a vow of secrecy that they weren't going to share a story. I'm pretty sure some people broke that.
01:00:40
Speaker
Um, but yeah, he told me, he was like, well, it's going to be, i might have these numbers wrong, but I think it was like going to be priced at over a thousand bucks for this thing. But like the initial, if you bought it the first few days, you could get it for like 800. So I'm pretty sure I paid like $800 for that thing.
01:00:57
Speaker
That was probably unnecessary. Cause I have not used it enough to justify. Are they still at that price point? I don't even know. Yeah. And I, you know, I haven't, I haven't needed to look, but.
01:01:10
Speaker
But now they sell the newer ones that are like, like mine has to be tethered to the laptop. Like I've got, there's all these cords, like it's, it's a cumbersome thing. Um, but now they have this new one that's a Vega or Veo or it's something like that.
01:01:24
Speaker
That's like a totally wireless Bluetooth thing that you don't, and it's smaller, more compact. Like you don't have to have it hooked up to your laptop and it'll just Bluetooth right to the machine. Beautiful.
01:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, once we get down to, you know, two, three hundred bucks for something like that, that's probably where I'm going to be able to jump in. But until then, I just can't justify throwing the money at something that I can't even pretend I need this. I just won't want one.
01:01:52
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Like right when I got it, the whole intention was like i was like. I just want to scan my kids and make action figures of them. um That was the only reason I bought it. Did you do that?
01:02:02
Speaker
No, I still have not done that. You still haven't done that. No. Oh man. Well, you shouldn't have done that. It's the list. You've had years. You've had years. I get distracted. I get distracted by these other things. You're too busy doing stuff like making their entire bedroom into it.
01:02:18
Speaker
harry potter great hall yep and that's not even done so that's not even done no what the hell haven't you done to that room yet you've done a lot to that why why don't you tell people what you've done to that damn room and then maybe you can try to squeeze in what you haven't done and start with the door Well, that was the most recent one,
Creative Projects and Thematic Transformations
01:02:37
Speaker
though. So we well we start by we started by ripping everything out and then we painted all the walls to look like stone. So it looks like a castle.
01:02:44
Speaker
And we repaint their beds were like white IKEA beds. So we repainted those to look like wood. So they look like old gnarly wood now. And we did the ceiling as the storm cloud ceiling.
01:02:56
Speaker
So, and that's kind of like my first, um, to delve into content content creation. That was kind of like my first experience of like going semi viral.
01:03:07
Speaker
Um, cause I had, at the time I probably had like 300 followers on Facebook. Like, I mean, I was a little bit better on Instagram, but like I had like nothing on Facebook and I never put any effort into Facebook. I just basically, I would post a reel or whatever to Instagram, cross post copy and paste and, you know, maybe pick a different song.
01:03:30
Speaker
I think at the time I started picking different songs on Facebook just cause I was like, we'll see if this works. Um, but when I did the ceiling, I put up, uh, I put up poster board first, but not like I bought like the Hobby Lobby poster board. That's like basically like paper, but they're the bigger sheets, you know, poster board size, but thinner than poster board.
01:03:50
Speaker
I bought all that and I staple it up. Cause I was like, what you do is you, you spray glue and then you take polyfill that you would use for pillows or stuffed animals. And you just take globs of that and you put it on the survey blue. Well, for first you put up the lights, you do like a led strip light and glue that to the ceiling.
01:04:07
Speaker
Then you do the spray glue, then you put up the polyfill and it looks like clouds. And then you can do lighting effects and make it look like lightning or make it do rainbow effects, whatever. um But I did a reel where I was, that was basically just me doing the poster board part.
01:04:22
Speaker
And I did a voiceover and I explained what I was doing. Like, we're going to do a storm cloud ceiling, but I don't want to like tear glue off of my ceiling if I ever want to take this down. So we're putting up some paper first. And the amount of people on Facebook that told me Like, why don't you just do a skim? Like they thought I was like getting rid of my popcorn ceiling or something, but I got so many comments calling me an idiot, calling me a moron that just like didn't have any idea what I was doing, even though i literally said what I was doing. yeah And I think that video did like six or 700,000 views. And i went followers to in a week.
01:04:59
Speaker
just because of these people ripping on apparently other people liked it i mean it was getting likes and stuff too but then that kind of catapulted some other reels where i did the lights and it kind of took off the other hack i would say is my brother and i did a stranger things tree that we did animatronics in and tried to figure out pneumatics and all that stuff um we made it out we made it out the frame out of wood but we covered it in in chicken wire and then we covered that in Saran wrap and then we covered that in spray foam.
01:05:27
Speaker
Just cans spray foam. People really hate when you use spray foam. they will They will let you know that you really are killing the environment and that you're an idiot, that you should have bought a frost pack, that you can buy that in bulk. like The amount of comments that we got for using spray foam, insane.
01:05:48
Speaker
But yeah, that was another one that like a month couple months later did another 500,000 views. five hundred thousand views just from people wondering why we were wrapping a tree a bunch of wood in chicken wire and then why we were using and spray foam.
01:06:01
Speaker
But anyway, i got way off track on the Harry Potter room, but yeah. no no yeah But that that is one of the keys to sending your shit to viral. Yeah. Piss people off. Piss people off. These were totally unintentional, though. like i don't even I was so shocked that people were outraged.
01:06:15
Speaker
Oh, I know. i know. I mean, it's the dumbest little shit that you do, and people get outraged by the the things that you wouldn't even expect. And it's, it's the dumb little shit and everybody gets pissed off about it. And then they start commenting and rage hating on it. And then suddenly you've got, you know, a million views on something.
01:06:36
Speaker
That's I'll let you get back to it. But yeah, that's, that's where things go viral is you got to piss people off. I wish I would have got a million views on some of the other Harry Potter stuff, but yeah it was the only stuff that, that I accidentally tricked people into think I was stapling poster board to my ceiling as a, as an actual finish.
01:06:55
Speaker
Uh, but no, then we did a, we did a secret door. So I have them, we, we took out their closet door. They have a walk-in closet in their bedroom. And yeah we basically made it into the chamber of secrets where we put in inside, we painted the whole thing green, even the ceiling, like really dark green. And then we did a wall mural that's got the Marauder's map on it.
01:07:14
Speaker
put in lights put in snake heads put in salazar slytherin sculpture head and then the door is a murphy door so it's a bookshelf it looks like a total built-in from the outside but then we've got a latch where you pull the book and the door is this did you did you design this or is this a kit you buy no i designed it yeah yeah yeah i thought about i looked into the kits and everything but then i was just like i want again i watched bob i like to make stuff yeah He's got a video on how he did his. I pretty much watched that and I used his fusion course to figure out how to do the modeling. and So I modeled the actual bookshelf that I was going to build and then I modeled the actual doorframe to specs and then made sure it was going to open. and um Yeah.
01:07:57
Speaker
Dude. You want to talk about sweat and bullets like the the day we opened that door, the first like when we installed the door, I had a buddy of mine come over and help me. And when we screwed that thing in and then closed it for the first time, like I'm talking like a 16th, like it clears like.
01:08:17
Speaker
barely. Yeah. I was so impressed. But yeah, once I put the trim around it, like I've got video somewhere on my Instagram where like, where I pan across and you can't really tell the difference between the trim and the door.
01:08:30
Speaker
Like it's, it's so tight. it's it's That's one of the things that I pat myself on the Yeah, we, I actually have a, we're actually repainting our living room, well, we're in the process of repainting the entire house, a little at a time.
01:08:44
Speaker
But in the living room, we have our bathroom door, our basement door, and then the hallway opening that goes down the hallway to the master. But I really want to get rid of that basement door and put one, ah and make a more adult version, you know, cause we are, we don't have kids at home anymore or anything, but, uh, I could do it shallower, you know, and maybe even taper tapered in a little bit. So it swings a little better.
01:09:14
Speaker
Um, an adult version, like a sex dungeon or yeah
01:09:20
Speaker
no, like you'll have bourbon on it. instead of that that Okay. That makes more sense. i'm with ya ah Just check. out I mean, adult means a lot of things to a lot of people. It's fair. clarify Yeah, it's fair. And don't think I haven't already asked the boss if that could be it. And the answer is no.
01:09:39
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Well, everybody says to me, like, you going to, what are you going your kids are going to be, you know, my kids are 11. They're going to be 12 here in a couple of months. It's like, what you to do when your kids don't want a Harry Potter room anymore? like, I'm going to move in.
01:09:50
Speaker
the Yeah. Hello. Great bedrooms with them. Yeah. They can have the big one. don't care. They can have the big one. And if my wife doesn't like it, they, they can share it with her. Yeah, exactly. You don't think I built it for them. Yeah. That's great.
01:10:05
Speaker
Exactly. I only regret is I didn't do this crap sooner. Like, Yeah. Yeah.
3D Printers: Experiences and Considerations
01:10:11
Speaker
So are you are you into are you on a CNC at all? No, I'm not. Again, like you're going back to that, I was on the fence between the laser and the CNC and and the lasers totally worked out.
01:10:23
Speaker
I just don't know what I would do with the CNC and for all the stuff that I have lined up and the stuff that I do. um I mean, I want one and I've got the space in my shop outside. um I'm fortunate enough that I have we have a three car garage and the third stall is pretty much just my shop.
01:10:42
Speaker
And we've kind of got like a back recessed area in the back of the third stall that would fit perfect. And then I could just vent anything right outside if I wanted to do a laser attachment or anything like that. And, and i just haven't been able to justify it.
01:10:57
Speaker
um You know, the things I make and the stuff I'm trying to do, and then, you know, helping my brother with his haunted house stuff and the the robots and the monsters and the animatronics we're making. I'm just like,
01:11:09
Speaker
Someday I want one. I know that someday I will probably get one. I just, I'm not there yet. Yeah. Well, the beauty is other than the size, the physical size, the, the longer you wait, the better quality.
01:11:23
Speaker
Yeah. Like the two by fours, four by four machines are one finity. Laguna Laguna just launched another, like an IQ version, a maker version. It's a,
01:11:36
Speaker
It's like a light duty IQ, two by three or two by four, you know, in that in that five to six thousand dollar range, ah you know, and they're just phenomenal compared to.
01:11:48
Speaker
Compared to, you know, like by machines, twenty sixteen or twenty twenty eighteen, you know, and like. even I have a Laguna Swift and the newest Swift is light years ahead of mine already. Like I've already upgraded my bearings. I've already, we've already taken the liquid cooled spindle off of it and put it up, updated it to a big six horse air cooled spindle, you know? So we're, I've tried to update it as much as I can, but,
01:12:17
Speaker
you just starting 10 steps ahead of where I am now buying it, buying one today. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's, that's like the 3d printing stuff now. Like when ah yeah I bought my first 3d printer, it was an under three and yeah it the amount of hours is wasted tinkering on that compared to, you know, yeah the bamboos where I just click print and it just works.
01:12:37
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, with so many hours lost on that stupid under three machine. But I'm glad about the but glad I bought the P1P when I did because I was about ready to give up 3D printing because I was so frustrated with all the tinkering and the, you know, the crap you had to deal with just fixing stuff all the time.
01:12:55
Speaker
And you got the P1P and discovered that you like the hobby of 3D printing much more than the hobby of tinkering with a fucking printer. Yeah, totally. it is Completely different hobbies. Yeah.
01:13:08
Speaker
It got to the point where was brutal. And again, I think I i talked to to Dave about that, too, because I told him I was like, I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm really not sure. I kind of want a bigger one. He was like, dude, just get a P1P.
01:13:21
Speaker
It's like, just get a P1P. It's just going to work. you're go It's going to go so fast. Like you're going to be, and I'm still floored. Like the first time that I fired that up and how fast that thing moves, you're just like, how is this even possible compared to the old Ender that I had? Like I wouldn't, I would never even attempt 24 hour, 24 hour print on an Ender.
01:13:43
Speaker
Cause I was just like, it's just going to go 10 and fail or 15 and fail. Like it'll never make it that far. like I probably successfully printed one print over 20 hours the whole time I owned that thing.
01:13:55
Speaker
And I owned it for three, four years. They just get confused or... Just something goes wrong. It comes off the bed. It starts spitting spaghetti because something layers shift. Like just so something gets clogged all of a sudden, like just all the time.
01:14:11
Speaker
And these bamboo machines, you can can do a multi. I can print a Star Wars helmet. That's a multicolored print. That's like the same size of Lego helmet. That's a 24 hour print.
01:14:22
Speaker
It's longer because it's a multicolored print, but like print those all the time and they never have a failure. It's just insane. so So let me ask you this, and and Jeff, you're are kind of up to speed on this. I don't have a 3D printer yet.
01:14:34
Speaker
I want a 3D printer. I have lots of uses in my shop. Jigs for for this laser here you know is one of them. um
01:14:44
Speaker
This is how I could sell my wife on a 3D printer, and you guys can help me. My wife doesn't listen to this podcast. We'll tell her to fast forward to this part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah So you're printing droids.
01:14:58
Speaker
and you're selling me on three d printers, Mr. Stein. um My wife collects ah nutcrackers like at Christmas time. I buy her one every year or make her one. I try to make one if I can. yeah But she's always wanted like four or five, six foot.
01:15:16
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You could absolutely. i mean, you'd spend a small fortune. but Absolutely. right Yeah. You can find one that's been split into 20 pieces already for you. You just yeah kick them out in order. They've got to be out there. My wife and I had the same conference. My wife is also big fan of the Nutcrackers.
01:15:35
Speaker
And yes, we talked about was like, maybe we should just print a seven foot tall one. And she kind of looked at me and was like, where are we going put that? when it's not Christmas. That's my thing. Where do you put it when it's not Christmas? we I'm like, we got storage.
01:15:48
Speaker
yeah Again, um I'm blessed with my current space because I like i have that shop. i have a base I'm talking to you guys from my basement shop right now. This is where I have my like Yeah, I've got ah um've got a basement we could put it into.
01:16:00
Speaker
But yeah, I think, and and to look at a decent quality one, they're $600 to $1,000. So if I've got $300 or $400 in filament in one, that's not.
01:16:10
Speaker
Yeah. Plus you can, I mean, you can certainly change the model so that you're not printing, like if you're printing leg pieces. You could probably have it if they're not already designed that way, you could redesign so that they're hollowed out isn and so that you don't have a giant chunk of that. Even if you're printed 7% infill or whatever, it's still probably a lot of filament that you don't need because you really only need the outer layer.
01:16:32
Speaker
Right. Okay. I'll be in touch. But yeah, I mean, even just just to make, yeah, like you said, like jigs, and that's the one thing that I keep telling myself of like, that I feel like I've wasted with the laser and with the 3D printers of like, I need to be more into making myself making myself shop tools, making myself jigs and things like that, whether it be jigs or battery holders or battery holders or things for my wall control like accessories like things like that like i need to be better about and i've kind of again learning recently being better at fusion and trying to get in the groove of doing it on a regular basis like i've started so when i got the we create laser it's a smaller um
01:17:19
Speaker
the the hose that you vent out your window is a smaller, it's not like a dryer vent size. So I didn't have anything. So I was like, I can do this. So I just went into fusion, drew some circles, drew some rectangles and made myself an adapter in like 20, 30 minutes, click print, like a hour, hour and a half later, I've got a thing.
01:17:38
Speaker
Like, it's crazy that like we can do this today that you need a piece of plastic. You design a piece of plastic. You hit print and you have a piece of plastic that does exactly what you fucking need it to do.
01:17:51
Speaker
Exactly. And I don't have to wait on Amazon to ship it a few days and pay like 15 bucks for it. Like that's probably like 50 cents worth of filament. If that. Right. Right. I've got a list of stuff now that but I'm just going to, sooner or later I'm going be able to tell the wife, I need this piece of equipment. you know I have an ongoing list of things of of like, these are shop tools you should try to make.
01:18:14
Speaker
And once I get it long enough, like i I feel like that could be probably a YouTube video that I would try to make. Trying to think of things like that to use the tools that could I could turn into YouTube videos for Yeah, that grid system that Mary Lou has been using.
01:18:30
Speaker
Gridfinity? Yeah, Gridfinity. like i yeah all All these draws would be full of that. And there's all kinds of people like I've i've got files for a, I bought some off a Kickstarter that's like a 3D print surround enclosure system that's like modular.
01:18:46
Speaker
So it'll fit any 3D printer, no matter how big that you can make it as big as you want. um But they're, they're doing all kinds of things like that on Kickstarter and making like obscene amounts of money.
01:18:58
Speaker
So, Al, what you need to do is you need to get yourself out on the Internet and look at the 3D printer sites. I mean, the 3D model sites and look for a 3D model of a full scale nutcracker.
01:19:13
Speaker
and figure out exactly the fact that you can do this. Here's the model. Look, we can do this. I can print this. Take that to the wife and show her, look, honey, there's a model here for a seven foot nutcracker and I could print this for you.
01:19:34
Speaker
glue it together, take advice from Grant about putting the Bondo and the paint on it. And then we could stand this in the corner at Christmas time, yeah but I can't do it without a printer.
01:19:46
Speaker
Do Jeff's way. And just, you just print the colors, the different color, make sure the, make sure it's sectioned off. Right, right, right. At the right spot so that you don't have to paint anything. wouldt that's i would yeah i would enjoy painting.
01:19:59
Speaker
But yes, to to that point too. It's it's nice having that. I had no idea the quality and the quality that these things were printing at. a friend of mine, Joey Steelblade, sent me a file. he ganged it We had him on as a guest.
01:20:13
Speaker
And he sent me a file for my cordless battery tool, batteries, Festool batteries. And he said he sells them. So I offer, I sent him a message that, Hey, I want to buy a couple of these. And he said, I'll tell you what, I'll just send you the file for free. Cause I love you. And now you got a reason to go buy a printer.
01:20:32
Speaker
So I thought I was going to buy a printer. It just wasn't in the budget. And now I got the file. So I reached out to my host. And he printed them for me and mailed them to me. And I cannot believe how... like I was expecting it to look like spaghetti stacked up.
01:20:48
Speaker
But it's smooth. And I was like, this
Advancements in 3D Printing Technology
01:20:50
Speaker
is... it's smooth and i was like this is You couldn't tell me Festool didn't make that. The layer lines today compared to the layer lines of several years ago.
01:21:03
Speaker
And yeah the the crazy thing to think of here is that the the stuff that I'm sending to Al were all... printed with a standard 0.2 layer height.
01:21:19
Speaker
So with everything you've got there, that's a 0.2 millimeter layer height. The bamboo goes down to 0.08, I think, with the normal nozzle, at least.
01:21:34
Speaker
I'm not sure if it's different with the smaller nozzle, but even with the normal 0.4 nozzle, I can do... down to a 0.08 millimeter layer height. So less than half of that, where you see the lines on that part, I can make the lines half that size.
01:21:53
Speaker
Really? Yep. Does it doesn't take twice as as long to print? Oh, hell yeah. It's going to take twice as long to print, but but who cares? Who cares? If it works for a battery holder. No, but I mean, but right if you need something that's got the level of detail that say Chris Raley puts out, you need to use the 0.08 layers for, you know, that, that level of detail. I mean, I, I don't need that for much, but The point is, is you're impressed by the layer lines and these machines can do more than people are doing with them.
01:22:30
Speaker
well Yeah. At least and they can make them so less than half of that size. Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. And I've got like a, I also have a Elegoo Neptune 4 Max.
01:22:45
Speaker
I bought it about a year and a half ago, probably just cause I I wanted something big. Like I wanted to be able to print like a full size helmet or something like that. um And it's it's not up to the bamboo standards. like The layer lines are much more defined. you know They say they can print up to the same speed, like up to the 500 millimeters second or whatever. it It's like, no, if you run it more than 300, then fails.
01:23:13
Speaker
and it doesn't it fails and yeah it's just so it's like a structure printer that you're gonna bondo for sure for sure yeah i use it i've used it for for like my my my battle droids i'll i'll print the body because that body doesn't fit like his to chest torso doesn't fit on a regular bamboo so i'll print that um the pit droids head if you want to do like the animatronic head like the base of it you can print it all in one shot instead of three different pieces that you'd have to glue together and bondo so i do things like that but So you can print pretty much on any 3D printer. It's just how many pieces you're going to have. Yeah.
01:23:47
Speaker
Yeah. Right. Like I just, the big printer I bought to do the big things, but sometimes I'm like, God, I'd almost rather just print it on the bamboo and just deal with the seam. Right. Right. right It's not as reliable. The layer lines are bad, and but, but now the bamboo has their big printer. So if you want to spend $2,200 or if you don't want the AMS, it's what 18 or 1900, I think.
01:24:11
Speaker
oh yeah so the is the a1 going to be cheaper because i got a bigger a new printer now probably not it's gonna go more expensive because tariffs everything's going up
01:24:24
Speaker
just count on everything cost them reality this is a chinese company yeah Yeah, Chinese chinese company. you you You can brag about how this may or may not fix U.S. manufacturing in the next two years after we're able to gear up for it, assuming that we can get the raw materials through the tariff problem.
01:24:45
Speaker
But in the meantime, it's not going to do well for the price of Chinese goods like bamboo printers, for example. I'm strongly considering getting another printer right now just because the but stuff I've been selling is pretty well.
01:25:01
Speaker
they're still locked in right now. The price is still the same. I keep checking every day. but so you The only thing holding me back right now is um i I procrastinate too much and I didn't do my taxes fast enough. So I'm waiting to see how much I owe on my taxes but before I pull the trigger on another printer. But even it like an even a mini, even an A1 mini would be perfect for these the the stuff that I'm doing right now.
01:25:23
Speaker
Yeah. I just need the AMS. I need the multicolor. So here's a Bamboo A1 3D with a AMS 529. There you go.
01:25:34
Speaker
Does that sound right? Yep. Yeah. Oof. That's a lot of money. Do I need the AMS? No. I mean, I do, but i don't for what you're talking about doing, you probably don't. yeah Do you want to print anything with more than one color?
01:25:49
Speaker
I don't know. I've never printed anything. Probably 80% of my stuff would not be. Once you do, though. Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. Because you don't want to buy it later and then pay for shipping again. like Because I've seen some of the stuff that Drew Witt... It costs as much to buy it separate.
01:26:06
Speaker
Yeah, and Drew Witt is making some different tools, and he's actually doing the multicolor to put in like the measurement lines yeah across some of his things. like That's pretty smart. like That's pretty cool.
01:26:18
Speaker
yeah so even if you you get to things like that or even if you buy files from people that have things like that even if you're not designing them yourself there's things like that that you'd probably want to use it for yeah and again and i if it takes longer it's like just do it when you're asleep yeah and i've been lucky enough that at points in my life when major purchases were going to be made we were at a place where we could extend ourselves.
01:26:43
Speaker
Like my first CNC is literally a six horse four by vac table machine. I've never had another. This is the only CNC I've ever had. My first laser was a hundred watt CO2 laser.
01:26:54
Speaker
You know, my second laser was a fiber laser. You know, I've never, I never did the, the, you know, the, the what's, what's the one we were talking about last week. Oh my God. With the belts, the, not the V carve, the,
01:27:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah. i mean What is it? Inventable. X-Carve. X-Carve. Yeah. Yeah. I never. 17,000 screws. Yeah. yeah Fucking plastic baggies.
01:27:23
Speaker
Or the Avid Erector set. You know, i didn't I didn't do that, you know, that route. So, I mean, i' I don't have the money right now to do it, but like, should i look at something bigger than the a one I think the A1 is good.
01:27:39
Speaker
Honestly. I have an a one and it's I love it. It does everything you need it to do. it's great There's the a one then there's the P1 and the X1.
01:27:50
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And they all have the exact same build volume. There's a lot of other features and shit that's added on to the more expensive models, but they're all the same exact build size.
01:28:02
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So if you want a bamboo, you can either get the mini that's got the little tiny bed You can get the A1, P1, X1 that all have the same build volume.
01:28:12
Speaker
Or you can buy the brand new one. What is it? The H2D? Is that what they call it? Yep. Yep. For $18.99. For a lot more money. And you get you do get the bigger bed size for that one.
01:28:26
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ah Along with all the other problems of beta testing and brand new model just came out. that's available for pre-order tomorrow.
01:28:37
Speaker
the a yeah is it um I'm seeing people already owning them and using them. well a lot of the yeah A lot of the content creators got them in advance. When they did the announcement, they already had them and then they could start talking about it.
01:28:51
Speaker
I'm just seeing people on Reddit talking about their machine and their experience and what they're doing with it. I got the impression some of them just bought it and got it already. no i don't think it I don't think they ship until the end of April. yeah think the first round is supposed to ship out.
01:29:07
Speaker
but oh that's several content creators that got them in advance there were some people that got it that i was i don't know several people that didn't get it that i guess i was surprised that didn't get it that i know that work with bamboo but then some of the folks that got it i was like where's your youtube video where's your content about this and they haven't put anything out but they did post a thing that they got it so it was like huh if you honor I want one.
01:29:31
Speaker
Bamboo. yeah yeah Send me one. I'll ah absolutely promote the hell out of you. I would actually try one of those things. i i I'm super skeptical about firing up a laser on the inside. of Yeah, that I don't. $2,800 bucks too for the laser.
01:29:50
Speaker
yeah Yeah. My laser is disgusting. I'll just say that right now. like the The amount of soot in there, I can't imagine how that's a good idea. Yeah. yeah Oh, inside a printer. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah like Yeah. Like with our AMS for the P1P I have, you're not even you're not even supposed to use cardboard spools in the AMS because they say that the cardboard fibers can wear off and clog up things. I'm like, well, how the hell are you going to run a laser in one of these things that if I can't even put a cardboard spool in your AMS?
01:30:24
Speaker
yeah I'm sure it's different parts and I'm sure they've thought this Little plastic for my cardboard spools. Yeah, I did too. Cause I was told, you know, like you shouldn't do this, but if you're going to put a laser in these machines, like that's going to kick out way more crap than a cardboard spool running on a plastic spindle.
01:30:44
Speaker
You know, it doesn't sound like a good idea to me. No. And like, i don't know the build volume of that small, like, what are you really going to laser in there? i don't know.
01:30:55
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I, I'd like to have the bigger build volume for the printer, though. Yes, absolutely. yeah Without the laser. and You know, the other thing that gets me is I understand there's problems with the slicer, but when I first saw that, I had hopes with the dual extruder that you could put like a.4 and a.2 in there so you could do...
01:31:19
Speaker
your main print with the point four nozzle and then you could switch over and put in the little tiny details with the point two but apparently you can't slice it for different heights and different shit so you can only that'll come around eventually though probably yeah they'll probably figure that out eventually but i mean for right now you can put whatever size nozzles you want but they both have to be the same
01:31:46
Speaker
I was sort of disappointed to see that you can only take one. There's still only one output from the AMS unit. The AMS version two still only has one output. So if you want to use the dual nozzle system, you either have to have two AMS units or you have to have the second roll hanging off the back.
01:32:10
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So you can't just have it alternate between two colors in the AMS because there's only one output from the AMS unit.
01:32:19
Speaker
So it would be useful for lots of shit like ah
Future of 3D Printing and Community Support
01:32:24
Speaker
ah what is it that support layer interface where it's like the top layer of the supports has a different kind of material for it.
01:32:35
Speaker
Um, that'd be good. Cause you could just hang that support stuff ah in the, on the, on the back of the machine. And then you could just go ahead and do a color print. And then anytime it needs to print support interface, it just pulls it off the other one and it doesn't need a color switch.
01:32:52
Speaker
Like a straight two color print, right? Then you don't even have poops, right? Like there, no, you just, you just have to hang one of the colors off the back of the machine and put the other one in the AMS. Yep.
01:33:03
Speaker
So, I mean, it's like they're on the right track, but I don't think they've quite nailed some of that shit yet. ah I feel like the direction they're going, but yeah.
01:33:17
Speaker
Anyway, we should probably yeah move on and hit some things of the week before we get too late, too close to our Al's bedtime here.
01:33:30
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You missed it. You're past. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We passed that already. Well, we should probably move this along so we can get him to bed before he falls asleep on us. Did you bring anything interesting for a thing of the week?
01:33:45
Speaker
You start with me? Sure. Why not? You're the host. Yes. So, well, we, we probably touched on mine a little bit, but I'll, I'll reiterate. Um,
01:33:57
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Al, you've got to watch Andor. Come on. like Go watch Andor. Season 1 is out there. and' And the Lucasfilm people are trying to promote it a whole bunch. So you can even watch it for like free on YouTube, I think, right now. It's on Hulu now.
01:34:12
Speaker
Okay. Well, I do have Hulu. The traditional Disney Plus, so you should go watch that. Season 2 is like in two weeks. I'm very stoked. um watching okay okay I'm watching all all the things. What's the quick premise? Where does it pick up in the...
01:34:25
Speaker
It is five years before episode four, the original Star Wars. Okay. And it is kind of the tale of how the rebellion begins centered around this character, Cassian Andor.
01:34:40
Speaker
Okay. And it's kind of his journey, but it's got all of these other... a whole bunch of other characters, good and bad. Yeah. And it's really, Tony Gilroy is a showrunner and he did the born movies and he did Michael Clayton. Michael Clayton is a freaking fantastic movie.
01:34:56
Speaker
So there's real real life human actors. It's not like an avatar. There's no, there's no lightsabers. There's no force sorcery. It's all like people, rebellion, oppression, oppression,
01:35:10
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Like okay they have never a ta a tie fighter has never sounded so terrifying. That has in that show. Like they do such a good job of making these guys seem so awful.
01:35:21
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It is so good. And I'm very stoked for season two and I'm very excited about the robots we're going to see. And or. And I would just say to kind of smuggle in a second pick of the week.
01:35:33
Speaker
I mentioned division before um and Mr. Battley. That's where I get all my droid stuff. Droid Division just came out with their B2 battle droid. I have not bought the files yet.
01:35:44
Speaker
I'm probably going to do that soon, but it's another 20-roll filament droid that's 6'6", or something like that. He's massive. um But he's one of the droids from like Episode 2. I don't think he was in the first Episode 1 of Star Wars, but he was in The Mandalorian. He's the droid that almost shot Mando. If you ever watched The Mandalorian when he was a little kid, the scene, the droid that came in and almost shot him.
01:36:07
Speaker
seen parts of it i i'm the terrible star wars gen xer yeah but they just released the full size ah files for that droid and you know again couple hundred parts probably they'll take you forever to print it but they're nice the work they do is incredible and again michael battely mr battely on facebook patreon it's like a dollar a month It's literally a dollar a month. And if you pay a dollar to his Patreon, you get like every single astromech droid ever. If you want to make, if you want to 3D print your own R2D2, it's a buck.
01:36:41
Speaker
Like you could literally pay a dollar and get all the files and then just quit. I mean, I've, I've been paying him the whole, for probably two years now, but my wife's going to de divorce me. Get started be drawing but started. And he's got like chopper from rebels. He's got like the,
01:36:58
Speaker
the little uh b1 dude from what's the guy's name from the the video game jedi survivor um he's got do he's got i mean bb8 you can print any droid like anything and it's a buck cool i i would really really like to have an r2 yeah i really would but i mean that's like that's a whole fucking rabbit hole like oh yeah it's a i've printed like all but this whole body is sitting right over there
01:37:29
Speaker
And his legs and his leg is like R2D2 or you can print a full scale R2D2 that moves, blinks, talks, yeah walks, interacts the whole fucking. I mean, you can go all the way out and make one that does more shit.
01:37:46
Speaker
Yeah. Like $2,000. And then the screen versions did because those were each. You know, they had one version with the dude in it and they had one version that did some of the other tricks. And you can have one that does everything, you know, yeah they're better than the screencast versions.
01:38:03
Speaker
I don't know. i just I just can't see myself printing or spending, you know. ah two months of my life or two years of my life you mean fuck how long did we hear bob talking about his before he finished it it was a couple year project for him i get i get why he split split that youtube up and like eight eight separate and what's what's what's that droid it cost Like, that's more than 3D. He made a real... Oh, yeah. His is made of aluminum and steel, and yeah he's got all kinds of stuff. Like, mine's 3D printed, but still, even if you 3D print it, like, you've got to buy the motors and yeah the drives and the servos and Arduinos and the Xbox controller and all the lights and LED... like
01:38:45
Speaker
everything else that you're not 3D printing that's not filament that goes into that thing. That's a ton. Yeah. I think I'm going to so start small. I saw an R2 go by the other day in a video. I'm going have to find the file. It was ah it was a a small tabletop version of R2D2 where you put your Google Home speaker on his head.
01:39:10
Speaker
Oh, nice. And that's the top of his head. i It might have had the grid that goes over the top of it, but I mean, the the the home speaker is the top of his head. Oh, I want that.
01:39:20
Speaker
Yeah, because use her. I have a Google Home in my family room. that's I'm not an Alexa person. I've never gotten along with that chick before. But the Google Home and I, know we she's my, friend she's my side. I sort of get along with the the Google Home chick, but I'm thinking I need to print an r to to go underneath that. I think I'll start there and decide whether I need to go bigger or not.
01:39:47
Speaker
yeah And one more plug for the, the, the, the dudes that do the droid division. So the pit droid files that I bought, it was over two years ago. and They've got like a whole community of people that will go in and like mod things and make things. and like he does not He says, like I don't do animatronics. I just make the droid files.
01:40:07
Speaker
Other guys go in and mod the files and make them animatronic. and then they just like If you paid $30 for those pit droid files two years ago, they'll just tell you, like hey, the files have been updated. There's new files out there. Just go redownload.
01:40:21
Speaker
So if you buy those files, you can go back and now like you can make his head move. You can make his arms move. You can make his hips swivel. And there's somebody that's working on the legs right now, too. So like I'm sure it's totally incredible. And that's like all of the droids that they make. And they've designed them in a way that like I think they're.
01:40:40
Speaker
i don't i'm terrible with metric but basically like like whatever m bolts that you use to print him full size if you print him at 50 instead it basically just oh instead of m6 now use m3 like ah no so you can make a little pitroid instead yeah you can use half the filament and and still have dude that looks amazing so And just hardware the design work that you just use hardware. That's 50% scale.
01:41:06
Speaker
Yep. And all of that, like it comes with a huge PDF that tells you how to do it and tells you how to, what to use, what hardware you need. It's great. um I'm so impressed with all this technology and everything that you're, you guys are talking about. And I'm just sitting here like a dumbfounded, but like to hear,
01:41:22
Speaker
you use technology of a captured nut, which has been around since the Ford assembly line. yeah You know, you what mean? Like the tech, it's like, Hey, don't fix it, but don't broke. yes If it's not broke.
01:41:34
Speaker
Yeah. Well, you can model in the hold to drop the nut into. Yeah. It'll be right where you want it. Yep. So Al, you got anything?
01:41:46
Speaker
I do. i do. I've been, I've been sitting on this guy for a couple of weeks and it's, Just sometimes an
Artistic Inspirations and Community Engagement
01:41:54
Speaker
artist, like I enjoy all creatives, you know, um i could I could look at droids, you know, all day long. I could look at cars. I could look at paintings, whatever.
01:42:03
Speaker
um But I stumbled across this sky probably a couple years ago, and it's a huge channel. And it's not that I don't like promoting huge channels, but it's like this guy doesn't need any help. ah But Andrew Scott underscore art.
01:42:16
Speaker
Have you ever seen him? He basically does pencil drawings, and then he'll take, like it's a pencil, like the first one is a pencil drawing of a little boy shooting a slingshot.
01:42:29
Speaker
And then he takes a nail punch and he breaks the glass in the frame, in the picture frame, so it looks like the little boy shot a rock through the picture frame. I have seen this dude. yeah Yeah, this guy, it's incredible. Like he's got a boy fishing.
01:42:43
Speaker
And the fishing line drops off the bottom of the picture frame with a treble hook. You know? ah And it's all like... It's just the emotion coming from the... He reminds yeah he reminds me of ah ah Saturday Evening Post. like You just get emotion from the picture. like you know There's a guy leaning... like The picture frame is broken, leaning in on one side, and there's a guy with his back against it, pushing, and you can see the anguish on the guy's face. It's just...
01:43:18
Speaker
Very simple and very intense, clean art. And it's just, I could just doom scroll it for hours and hours and hours. So Andrew Scott underscore art on Instagram.
01:43:30
Speaker
Amazing, amazing artist. I'll have to go look him up. Yeah. I also have an Instagram artist that I'd like to share for mine. um Different kind of art than I normally do. This guy is a painter, and he does some special kind of paintings that are sort of fun.
01:43:52
Speaker
This guy's name is Chris Jacob, which is Chris J-A-C-O-U-B. And he will he will paint a picture, and then he'll make a big puddle of paint.
01:44:10
Speaker
It's like he'll he'll he'll paint a skeleton, and then he'll make a big puddle of paint in the skull. And then he'll stand the painting up and let the shit drool down a certain amount of way, and then he'll lay it back down and let it dry that way.
01:44:27
Speaker
Oh, wow. It is just some amazing art. He's got ah hundreds of these damn things and it's, you know, the, the, the water's pouring out of the earth and the, the, the, the stuff's pouring out of the people's hearts. And there's just ah the way that the paint like streams out of an area because he made a puddle of it and let gravity drool it down across the outside of his painting.
01:44:59
Speaker
It's just, It's really impressive shit. Oh, he's got Darth Vader. I was just going to say he's got a Darth Vader. um up there Yeah, this guy's ah this guy's amazing. following invader's got four hundred And Vader's got 446,000 views on it, unsurprisingly.
01:45:17
Speaker
Wow, this is very intense. The color is amazing. Watching these things drool down and then what they end up like. It's it's just super impressive shit.
01:45:28
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. This is crazy. So intense. It's like, you see guys like this and it's like, yeah, I just need to sell everything I own and go, go be a Walmart greeter.
01:45:40
Speaker
What ah what am I doing? You got a lot of competition these days. There's a lot of unemployed federal people that are fighting for that Walmart greeting job this month.
01:45:53
Speaker
So, Oh boy. Oh, That may or may not work out for you. Wow. ah Yeah, who knows? Who knows?
01:46:05
Speaker
Life's crazy, right? It's something, that's for sure. ah Okay, here's one. um Grant, what would your dream tool be? If you could have any one tool delivered for free, accessories and whatever you need, what would but would you pick and what do you want to do with it?
01:46:27
Speaker
Oh, geez. I should have been prepared for this. I do listen to the show and I know this was coming. ah You know what I want? I want that freaking thing that Jimmy Duresta just got. And there you go. There's your obligatory. ja We almost missed it.
01:46:43
Speaker
You can't have that happen on my watch. ah I want that thing. The plasma table. Oh, my God. Yeah. The thing is like as big as my basement shop, I think. Yeah.
01:46:55
Speaker
Yeah, he could blat he could blast one inch carbon steel with that thing. Yeah. And I don't even do what I don't even do metal work. But like, I would have fun with that. I would start doing metal work.
01:47:06
Speaker
That's the thing. You get some of these tools and you're like, I didn't know what the hell I was doing when I got a laser. But once I got one, i went crazy metal worker the day after you got that fucking thing. Hell yeah.
01:47:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen it in person, but he was I was up there just before he got it, like a week before he got it. and He was like clearing room, and he was like real like a kid at a candy store.
01:47:28
Speaker
and So of to see somebody who pretty much has access to anything be that excited about something is pretty cool. God, how did we get this far without mentioning? I was going to mention his name like in the first sentence, too, and then you asked me something and threw me off, but...
01:47:42
Speaker
was just going to try to get it of the way right off the bat because that's what you guys always talk about. hour and 46 in. Jeez. You know, 12 episodes in, and i don't think anyone has intentionally just thrown out Jimmy just to maintain our suit. He has naturally come up in every single conversation. just It's just popped out of nowhere. It just spontaneously...
01:48:10
Speaker
its he doesnt He doesn't get far. ah Jimmy is just everywhere. Go ahead. Show off all your jimmybag Jimmy I don't any Jimmy swag. I've got two. I've got i got i got the mini. and I have that knife that you held up too.
01:48:28
Speaker
yeah I met Jimmy a few times. Yeah, he's good people. already an ice pick, so I haven't been able to justify buying a second one just so it says Durasta on the side.
01:48:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I was originally going to say that I was going to say I was excited to be here, that I was the episode following Jimmy, and then I realized, no, I'm not Mary Lou last week, so I'm not the one following Jimmy. Dang it.
01:48:52
Speaker
Well, not immediately following. That's all right. I'm about 20 minutes from him. we're We're all at least a couple of steps behind him. Yeah.
01:49:03
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I met him at WorkbenchCon. well yeah I've been there three years. and I think I talked to him every time I was there. so He's great. Talks better. yeah ye ye I have officially met no one from the Maker community.
01:49:17
Speaker
I have never met a single person from the Maker community yet. and In person? In person. Right. I have not yet met any single person from the maker community in real life.
01:49:29
Speaker
Do you want to go to the Midwest maker meetup in May? Yeah. Is there one? Let me know who that's at. Another woodshop podcast?
01:49:41
Speaker
It's in Kent City, isn't it? No, Omaha. Omaha. um I think it's the 17th. I was planning on going, but now I'm unsure because of some personal things that no one else cares about, but I'm going to try.
01:49:53
Speaker
I'm talking to a buddy over here too the about maybe riding together. so I'd like to go just because everybody do does these meetups and it's in California East Coast or Georgia's workbench cons in Georgia. It's like you live in the Midwest. It's kind of hard. and I'm going to try to make it out to Maker Camp, but you know that's a that that's all depending on, you know, financials and yeah whether you don't afford to.
01:50:19
Speaker
You don't need a hotel. You can stay here. Well, that helps. And it's true. My brother does that haunted house. So it's like, man, I can't really just take off in October. Yeah. Not the best time to be leaving. Cause that's like, you know, it's like, you gotta make the money. Yeah. It's like elves taking off on the 23rd. Yeah, exactly. Oh, we're supposed to make toys. What are you talking about?
01:50:43
Speaker
Got a party to go to. All right. well grant Grant, this has been amazing. i appreciate been a good I appreciate the thank you guys so much rest Star Wars class. yeah Yeah, you got you gotta to continue the education, man. i'm telling I have Andor series written down right here. There you go. i tell Even if you don't like Star Wars, people that show you will like that show.
01:51:05
Speaker
I love Star Wars. I just don't have the time to put into... like My wife and I, have just we just recently sold our ah landscape business. And like we've been looking at what takes our time up and everything like that. And we realized that we have like six reasonably large screen TVs in our house.
01:51:24
Speaker
For two people, which is freaking ridiculous. And we don't ever watch TV.
Future Projects and Social Media Interaction
01:51:29
Speaker
they literally They literally go on YouTube and play rain so sound or or ocean waves to sleep to. Like...
01:51:39
Speaker
Yeah. People always ask me, like, how do you get all this stuff? Like, how do you have time for this? And I'm like, i don't watch TV. Yeah. That's how. Just don't watch TV. It's noise. Yeah. The only time I have TV on is if it's sports and it's just, that's just background noise. Like I'll put a basketball game on in the background or football during football season and baseball during the summer, but i don't really watch it. I just have it on for noise.
01:51:58
Speaker
I just, uh, where is there? Who won the national championship tonight, guys? I don't That was on earlier. Yeah. Yeah. yeah That was my TV mount. I just took a 50 inch TV out of here because it didn't do anything.
01:52:12
Speaker
what What are sports? Sports balls. What's the ball? What do they do? Yeah. What kind of ball they use on that one? Yeah. We're going to play hockey hoops.
01:52:23
Speaker
Yeah. I'm the weird guy that likes all of it. I like sports and I like nerd stuff and I like star Wars and comic books for some reason. I like all of it. But again, I just kind of keep it as just noise so I can still focus on yeah yeah making the cool stuff and, you know, build robots, just build robots.
01:52:42
Speaker
Yeah. Amazing. Amazing work too, by the way. Amazing work. Yeah. You should be, uh, you should be modeling commercials somewhere. Well, ah just, just wait till you see what we got coming this year.
01:52:54
Speaker
It's yeah, we got some big things coming. So bigger robots, bigger stuff and good stuff. Like i said, we planned a bunch of stuff at my brother's haunted house and I always do a bunch of content for him and,
01:53:06
Speaker
Boy, like said, he's he's kind of like the Energizer Bunny, and that's going to get a lot bigger. There's going to be some crazy stuff happening out there. Well, the small print digifabricators clause, whether you know it or not, now you have to help me assemble and and tune up this nutcracker.
01:53:25
Speaker
Sure. Right on. Maybe if I can sneak away in October, you know, i could come up there for. Oh, that that would be amazing. I've already put my brother on notice. I'm like, dude, I can't, I can't not go to maker camp every year for the rest of my life. Like I'm going to get away for a weekend. So yeah.
01:53:41
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hopefully i'll try it and maybe this year i don't know we'll see okay well you've you've got to have your printer and you've got to have a lot of the pieces printed before he gets there so yeah yeah yeah well that's why i got tell my wife we got to get the printer now because it's gonna take till christmas to make it go take it it's gonna take a few hours of printing to get a seven foot nutcracker standing in the corner of room or just be like me if you have if you have two bamboo printers like you can build one of these dudes pretty damn fast ah You print the smaller parts during the day. You print the 12-hour prints right before you go to bed.
01:54:16
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yeah You can knock them out pretty quick. Nice. but yeah That's 100 hours? 150 hours? Oh, God. I have a spreadsheet somewhere. I did actually track how long it takes to print one of those. And someday there's going to be a YouTube video. Like I said, i was going to say you should post that. I'm so far behind on the YouTube videos, but that's, that's going to be coming soon. And I know that's the first question. Oh yeah. I used to post there.
01:54:42
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I was going to say, I'm the only ones that pay me any freaking money. So I'm going to try to post my, I'm pushing my focus back to that away from Instagram because yeah I may, I've, I've never got Google paid me money. They don't pay me either.
01:54:56
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yeah I had one video take off last year and it was the stupid pumpkin video where we made I made pumpkins out of spray foam. right And it did really well during Halloween. You know that's bad for the environment, right? Well, it's a funny thing.
01:55:10
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but i don't I'm going to do part two this year, and I'm going to go screenshot all the asshole comments that I got from that first video. And I'm going to try to do what they said. And that's going to be part two. and we're going to And some of them will probably work, but that's yeah yeah that's going to be the concept for part two of how to make pumpkins out of spray foam.
01:55:28
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how to piss people off by using spray foam i'm gonna have to remember that it's a dude it is a social media hack like if you want something to go viral just make something out of foam yeah yeah well or late or laser or laser cut something you shouldn't some kind of plastic yeah do that too yeah i'm gonna laser cut i'm gonna laser cut a pumpkin now out of foam Make a pumpkin pie. Cut it with a laser. I think people did that.
01:55:51
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I think I've seen that. I've never seen them cut the pie. Well, engrave. They tried to do an engraving on a pumpkin pie, right? Burn the pattern on the top. yeah I've seen them burn the pie symbol on the pumpkin pie for pie day and shit. I've seen that for years.
01:56:08
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It supposedly smells absolutely awful. Oh, yeah. But tastes delicious. No, I don't think it's supposed to taste good either. little little extra carbon and everything until you try it smoother yeah i don't know if i want carbon on my pie but hey it is what it is i mean yeah you gotta you gotta at least fake a bite on camera oh yeah oh well i guess we should probably wrap this up here
01:56:41
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So I definitely like to thank Grant for coming on the show and everybody who enjoyed the show should go follow Grant who can be found on Instagram under dadcrafted.
01:56:55
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And where else can we find you Grant? All the things. Well, so but my Instagram is dad underscore crafted because somebody beat me to it. But everything else, it's just dad crafted. All one word, no spaces. YouTube, Facebook, occasionally TikTok, although I don't really put much focus on that. But yeah, go watch my old YouTube videos that only have four interviews.
01:57:18
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That'd be great. i am I'll do that right now. right now Watch the sledding video. That was a classic.
Closing and Gratitude
01:57:24
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I've seen that one.
01:57:27
Speaker
All right. Well, I'd also like to thank my co-host Al for taking the time to hang out again and ask all the good questions, as well as thanking all of our listeners for taking the time to tune in and listen to us talk about our tools.
01:57:43
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A huge thank you to our current patrons for their support. So many thanks to Adam from BKR Customs, Ed Swanson of Ed's Clocks and More, and Eric from Overall Makerworks.
01:57:58
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01:58:12
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ah We've got a Discord server open to all listeners. Our patrons get access to an exclusive patron channel in our server where they get to hear about our next guest before the public.
01:58:24
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Direct links to Discord server and Patreon page are in the DigiFabricators Instagram bio, which you should also be following, which is at Digi-Fabricators. And if you are someone you know who does cool things with the digital tools, please contact us. I'm not just saying this because I feel like reading the script.
01:58:44
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We really only have so many friends to invite. We would like some suggestions of people that we should invest in. If I could talk, invite, you suggest to invite as guests so we can keep the show going.
01:59:02
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I got there. I can be found most places as a weird guy and Al can be found under New York Woodworks, which is Woodworks with an X. So thank you one more time for everyone and we'll catch you on the next episode.
01:59:29
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Sweet. Nailed it.