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Speaker: Whoa, there she is.
Speaker: Happy Sunday.
Speaker: Happy Sunday.
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I apologize because I've done a lot of lives, but I haven't joined a lot of lives.
Speaker: I realize you haven't been on the other side.
Speaker: You're saying exactly.
Speaker: I like your hair.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: It's church day.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Did you go to church this morning?
Speaker: Or today?
Speaker: I did.
Speaker: I did the church thing.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: How do I get the comments off my face?
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Speaker: I know.
Speaker: That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker: Is it there to stay?
Speaker: It's okay.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Hi.
Speaker: It has to be a way.
Speaker: What's going on?
Speaker: What's going on?
Speaker: Yeah, we're here.
Speaker: How was church?
Speaker: What was the message today?
Speaker: If you can share, please.
Speaker: Well, so I went to my parents' church.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: The message while he reiterated the story of when Mary Magdalene found the empty tomb.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it was just interesting, his perspective on it.
Speaker: And interesting that we were going to talk about women, women today, women's empowerment.
Speaker: I was thinking about it.
Speaker: I was like, because Mary Magdalene was the one who found the empty tomb.
Speaker: And it was interesting that he touched on the fact that, you know, the Bible discusses a lot of times when we think about Jesus and the disciples, we think about 12 men.
Speaker: But the Bible talks a lot about Mary Magdalene and she gets kind of skipped out of the picture a lot of the times.
Speaker: So I thought it was cool that he talked a lot about her and her impacts and her plot in the story.
Speaker: Her, you know, the impact that she had.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They stay behind every successful man as a woman or women, if you know what I mean.
Speaker: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker: So I mean to my followers and people who might not know you, I met Kimmy on social media.
Speaker: She posts always amazing content and I followed her.
Speaker: And over the time we built a friendship.
Speaker: And I actually never met Kimmy in person.
Speaker: But we're like IG friends.
Speaker: And I discovered that you have a podcast.
Speaker: What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker: Oh, your IG live chat?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: It's Empower Hour.
Speaker: Empower Hour.
Speaker: So I've watched a few of those and you're just really good at asking questions and interviewing people.
Speaker: So I was like, you know what, let's get her on and let her talk about women empowerment, women leadership, self development.
Speaker: Before we get into that, can you just give people a synopsis or just a brief description of like your background, where you from, what you do.
Speaker: I mean, also, she's really into nice watches.
Speaker: She's always got to watch one of them.
Speaker: They got a nice watch on that.
Speaker: She's a watch girl too, so she loves watches.
Speaker: But yeah, just give people just a brief description of just like who you are and what you do and then we get right into it.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: How's my sound?
Speaker: How's your what?
Speaker: My sound.
Speaker: Yeah, I can hear you.
Speaker: You sound great.
Speaker: Okay, great.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: And I, first and foremost, that's wild that we've never met.
Speaker: I feel like we've met.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But yeah, I appreciate you for inviting me onto your platform.
Speaker: And yeah, so I'm from Kansas City and I. Oh, cheese.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Next year.
Speaker: Yes, I per Kansas City and I got the heck up out of Dodge.
Speaker: I went to San Diego.
Speaker: I went the corporate route first.
Speaker: I got a degree in accounting and was checking my boxes.
Speaker: Like this is what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker: I'm going to go to college.
Speaker: I'm going to go work in corporate.
Speaker: I got a, you know, sweet gig working at a big four public accounting firm and worked as an auditor for a few years.
Speaker: But I did, I felt a tugging in my soul.
Speaker: and that it wasn't fulfilling my purpose.
Speaker: And that I had like, I just had more to give.
Speaker: And I saw the trajectory of what my life would be like staying there, which was great.
Speaker: And theoretically, what I probably was supposed to do, but I felt a tugging to go a different way.
Speaker: So I followed this crazy,
Speaker: looked crazy, quit my corporate job, moved to LA and pursued my passion to work in the luxury industry, specifically with watches.
Speaker: Like you said, I have a crazy knack for luxury watches.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I thought, Oh, put me on the spot.
Speaker: It's tough.
Speaker: I have a lot of favorites.
Speaker: Right now I'd say Grand Seiko is a brand that I really like.
Speaker: I like the underdog brands because yeah, a lot of brands are, you know, they have, it's kind of like any fashion brand.
Speaker: Like a lot of people just want it just because of the brand name, which is great.
Speaker: I also participate in that, but there's a lot of brands that are just not as well known, but have a lot to bring to the table.
Speaker: So yeah, I like Grand Seiko.
Speaker: If anyone listening hasn't heard of them, go seek them out.
Speaker: But yeah, there's a lot of brands that are that are great.
Speaker: I could go on and on.
Speaker: Well, thank you for that.
Speaker: So Kansas City, you're not on the West Coast with the corporate rally into watches.
Speaker: And now we want to talk about women empowerment.
Speaker: So I think of women empowerment as a man, I think about inspire, motivate, encourage and
Speaker: pushing a woman into her purpose or her path or her direction of which she believes she knows she can have and want.
Speaker: And granted, we all need to push.
Speaker: We all need to challenge.
Speaker: We need someone to hold us accountable.
Speaker: But from your perspective, being a woman and having your platform and your Power Hour, what is women empowerment from your end?
Speaker: How do you see it?
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: Great question.
Speaker: You're good at this.
Speaker: My goal with women with Empower Hour
Speaker: was really to create a space, I say safe space for women to inspire, educate and empower one another.
Speaker: And not to exclude men, but my goal with it is that women work great in community, right?
Speaker: And we work best when we're bouncing off each other and listening to each other and empowering one another and inspiring one another.
Speaker: So my goal with
Speaker: the podcast and with empower hour was to really just create a space where we can hear each other out.
Speaker: What do you have to offer?
Speaker: What can I learn from you?
Speaker: And how can I be empowered from by listening to you?
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: That's a perfect elevator pitch.
Speaker: So I want to buy this.
Speaker: So I'm taking offers.
Speaker: What we've been said that makes sense.
Speaker: So the question to follow that, does that mean there's a lot of challenges?
Speaker: in a workspace or just in personal life, business with women amongst one another as competition, trying to belittle one another, step on top.
Speaker: Like as a man, I mean, you see it sometimes with women competing, but you don't actually know it.
Speaker: So what is the stratosphere?
Speaker: What is the environment like women to women when you go out maybe to a nightclub, you go out to a dinner or like what is it?
Speaker: Is it more love?
Speaker: Is it more resistant?
Speaker: Is it more neutral?
Speaker: Like what is that energy like?
Speaker: Yeah, from a general perspective.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: That's it's I can't speak for all women.
Speaker: And I think it's like the answer to that question heavily depends on what kind of woman you are and what kind of environments you're putting yourself in.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So I, I would say from a from a higher standpoint, like if you look at corporate boardrooms, oftentimes there might be one woman at the table.
Speaker: or maybe at a senior manager position, there might be one or two women.
Speaker: That's increasingly getting better.
Speaker: There's more and more women getting there.
Speaker: But I think it's because of these conversations that women can kind of have with each other.
Speaker: Because if you're the only woman at the table, it's hard to seek out other women who think like you and want to achieve the same goals as you.
Speaker: So I think the goal of women empowerment for me, from my perspective,
Speaker: is to connect women who want to empower each other and inspire one another because it might be difficult to find that where you're at or with your specific trajectory for example when i was in big four corporate environment there were a lot of times i was only woman at the table or i was yeah a woman who was going into a position where i needed to speak to a group of men
Speaker: so with women empowerment you want to create safe environments so that women can connect on a level that's relatable to them or with other women who want the same things as them does that make sense no that makes sense so you said you know a safe space so as a woman in business for you or just in in general do you feel unprotected in in any aspect um
Speaker: I don't say I wouldn't say I don't feel unprotected.
Speaker: I would say that there are times where you just feel misunderstood.
Speaker: Okay, I like that.
Speaker: Or like, yeah, misunderstood is the word I'll use because I think a lot of times though the strengths that women have can get kind of brushed under the table because maybe they're not the same strengths that men have, or they might just move differently.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: So there's a quote that says, when it talks about women and it said, you want women to be strong and confident, but when she's something, she's too aggressive.
Speaker: I forgot the quote.
Speaker: You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker: I can't remember it.
Speaker: But anyway, it's like, you know, they say you want an independent woman, but when she's in her independence,
Speaker: she's too pushy or too challenging.
Speaker: I forgot that I find it.
Speaker: Yeah, I get the vibe.
Speaker: Yeah, it's interesting how narratives based on gender are so attached to a person in that that narrative becomes the world's perception.
Speaker: And I think that's what a misunderstanding comes in.
Speaker: Because, you know, I'm saying, oh, she's a woman.
Speaker: So therefore, she thinks like this, she feels like this, she's that, she's this.
Speaker: so that's going to make that but we don't even know that person to even say that we're just going off of what the world has given us and programmed us to believe about women so for you to find your empowerment for you to find your motivation for you to be inspired what women or women have you looked up to who inspired you and motivate you to be more empowered be more of a trailblazer uh you have you or just a leader in your own role and position like who has inspired you in your life
Speaker: another great question.
Speaker: And to your point that you were making about kind of the insinuation that comes along with with strong women.
Speaker: And to connect those that question there's a Sheryl Sandberg is one woman I do look up to there are some things I disagree with her about but overall, I am a big fan of her theories of, you know, how women can show up for themselves and how they can
Speaker: sit at the table as she likes to say and she actually brought up a statistic or a study that showed that there is a positive correlation with men and success and there's a negative correlation with women and success.
Speaker: Oh, now we're talking.
Speaker: Why did she explain why?
Speaker: Um, probably it probably I watched a TED talk where she talked about that.
Speaker: And I think she does go more into depth about it.
Speaker: But I think it's just kind of maybe our own thought paradigms and characteristics that are we correlate to be with successful men are just a little bit.
Speaker: I don't I don't know actually why that is the case.
Speaker: But it is something that you notice.
Speaker: And especially with women amongst each other, when you're seeing a successful woman or
Speaker: maybe you're seeing someone who's doing something that you wish you were doing, but you're not doing.
Speaker: Are you correlating, are you getting positive feelings with that?
Speaker: Are you getting feelings of envy and jealousy with that?
Speaker: I think that could be a life thing too for people because you know I've experienced that in multiple cases with people close to me or people I know in general.
Speaker: What's her name again?
Speaker: Cheryl?
Speaker: Cheryl Sandberg.
Speaker: Cheryl Sandberg.
Speaker: What is her background?
Speaker: She's she works with Facebook.
Speaker: She's the COO of Facebook I believe.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Got it.
Speaker: Got it.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: She's sitting at the table.
Speaker: She's got a lot of great books and resources.
Speaker: I really look up to her.
Speaker: obviously like Oprah, just these women who have just created space and have done it.
Speaker: Oprah, especially because she to me is the ultimate embodiment of a successful woman.
Speaker: And she's also done so much work spiritually.
Speaker: Because for me, I think you want to be well-rounded.
Speaker: You want to do the work spiritually, physically, mentally, financially to be really a fully empowered person.
Speaker: And I think she's a great example of that too.
Speaker: You should coin that definition.
Speaker: I think you should coin that.
Speaker: That's a great analogy, a way to put that all in there for one word.
Speaker: I think that's phenomenal.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: Because to be empowered, I mean, you're working on every aspect of yourself, your identity, how you see yourself.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: Yeah, so the talk about women and success and successful women, I love successful women.
Speaker: I love a woman who's driven, is independent, that knows what she wants.
Speaker: Because as a man, it's different when a woman is motivating you or challenging you like verbally, right?
Speaker: Or just like in your situation or whatever, you know, you're dealing with.
Speaker: I know for me to see a woman go do her thing and kill it and dominate and evolve and elevate subconsciously to me if I'm dating her or she's a friend of mine or she's a family member, it motivates me.
Speaker: It impacts me like she's kidding.
Speaker: Like that's attractive, right?
Speaker: That's like I want to have a conversation with her.
Speaker: I want to know what her routine is like.
Speaker: I want to know what does she do to prepare for me.
Speaker: Like just for example, my aunt, she's VP of Diversity and Inclusion over at Netflix, right?
Speaker: And for 20, 25 years, she had her own business where she was talking about diversity, women empowering, consulting, just businesses.
Speaker: But she's head of VP over there.
Speaker: And she's always been on the prowl of becoming more, doing more.
Speaker: And she's the breadwinner and, you know, one side of the family.
Speaker: So it motivated me.
Speaker: I remember her sitting the family down, at least all the cousins and her niece and nephews.
Speaker: She's like, look, I don't want to do this alone.
Speaker: I don't want to do this alone.
Speaker: And I remember like, it was like maybe like six, seven years ago.
Speaker: And I said, I got you.
Speaker: I'm coming.
Speaker: You know, like, I was still in my 20s trying to figure it out.
Speaker: But I was like,
Speaker: But it was just so motivating.
Speaker: Like she, man, went to Columbia undergrad and she went to Harvard Law School and then, you know, she just did it, you know.
Speaker: And I respect people who do the work, right.
Speaker: It's one thing to read a book, right.
Speaker: I say, look, I got this knowledge, but it's another thing to not only read a book, but also live a book and experience it.
Speaker: And I think for me, my intentions with women as I evolve as a man and understand them more, I want to empower women, right.
Speaker: How do I empower women?
Speaker: What do they really need?
Speaker: And as I got older, I'm like, damn, from my perspective, women don't need much out of a man, men.
Speaker: They really need simple stuff.
Speaker: You know, when it comes to a partner or friends, just empowerment, motivation, letting them know that you care, right?
Speaker: And just
Speaker: just you know, holding them accountable in different ways.
Speaker: And I realized as a man when you do your thing and you're in your purpose, it's easy for a woman to get her purpose if she doesn't have one.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: And vice versa.
Speaker: So I think as men, you know, I believe, you know, men in these days
Speaker: I think we got to step up more for women, right?
Speaker: Women are showing up in all facets, right?
Speaker: Money, business, home, parenting.
Speaker: Like women are doing the whole nine yards.
Speaker: They're doing the whole 100 yards.
Speaker: So what I think I discovered was that women don't really need men or depend on men no more, really.
Speaker: depending on who you are for money anymore.
Speaker: That's not like it as attractive.
Speaker: And if it is, it doesn't, your money won't keep them there.
Speaker: I think women are speaking now for men is spiritual currency, right?
Speaker: Someone who's spiritually strong, someone who's spiritually capable, someone who's spiritually grounded and understand
Speaker: the spiritual realm as much as the business.
Speaker: So it's a dichotomy of like a lot of different things.
Speaker: But I think if men and women we kind of communicate, understand your perspective, understand what leadership is, what motivation is from your perspective, because we like to generalize what we believe something is for someone else, but women think differently than men.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So I think you said that safe space.
Speaker: I think that safe space for women is just listening to them and letting them speak on what they feel.
Speaker: Not what we think is right because men were logical.
Speaker: We like to you know things make sense.
Speaker: But there's a quote that says whenever you're making a big decision always get advice from a woman.
Speaker: Hey I've said that before.
Speaker: You know not to go off tangent but I just think I just you know had to you know unpack that and say that.
Speaker: But moving forward
Speaker: I don't think that's a tangent at all actually.
Speaker: I mean, I just want to keep it.
Speaker: This is about you said the word purpose.
Speaker: Yeah, Sheryl Sandberg talks a lot about that too.
Speaker: She talks about part of being a powered woman is be having the right partner and making your partner and actually partner.
Speaker: Say that again.
Speaker: You gotta say that again.
Speaker: That's powerful.
Speaker: Part of being empowered woman is having the right partner.
Speaker: And I think having the right partners is finding someone who is in their purpose.
Speaker: And to your point, makes it easier for you to be in your purpose.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Um, we talked about self-help.
Speaker: We talked about books.
Speaker: Like what books are you currently reading or you're, you've been going through audio books and really lately.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: I I've been inundated with books lately.
Speaker: based on some recommendations from friends.
Speaker: I actually just listened to The Way of the Superior Man on audiobook.
Speaker: Oh, where is it at?
Speaker: Where is it at?
Speaker: Yo.
Speaker: Yo, it's so good, right?
Speaker: Yes, so good.
Speaker: This book has helped me so much, like in relationship, just understanding.
Speaker: My last while I did, I talked about love versus purpose, like,
Speaker: Man, powerful book people.
Speaker: Y'all should get this book.
Speaker: Y'all should read it.
Speaker: I'm telling you, change your life.
Speaker: Literally.
Speaker: Men and women.
Speaker: I think men and women need to read that.
Speaker: Right, right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Men and women should both read that book because I think it's, if you're, if you want to be a superior man, read it.
Speaker: If you're a woman and you want to find a superior man, I think you should read it.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: I'm also big, right now I have to shout out my favorite book that I'm rereading, which is Female Brain.
Speaker: Oh, I read that book.
Speaker: You've read that book?
Speaker: I love that book.
Speaker: Listen, I read the female brain and the male brain.
Speaker: But here's the thing, this was like seven years ago.
Speaker: So my talent agent, when I first moved to LA, his name is Rodney Chestnut.
Speaker: He was like a big time superstar on Noah's art show.
Speaker: He was gay, right?
Speaker: Before, you know, I came to LA, I didn't really understand, you know, people who are in that world.
Speaker: And so we always have like deep, intimate conversations.
Speaker: And I've dated a girl one time, who she told me her brother knew he was gay at the age of three.
Speaker: So it triggered my mind, I said, hold on, I gotta do some research.
Speaker: I'm really curious about how someone determines their sexuality, like where did that come from?
Speaker: I think I read the male brain and that was kind of accurate about how men think and how we are.
Speaker: Then I read the female brain.
Speaker: And then the female brain, she quoted a lot of like other
Speaker: books and stuff for her information.
Speaker: She said a gay man's brain is equivalent to a straight woman's brain.
Speaker: And she was saying some of it is hereditary, it's hormonal, it's from DNA.
Speaker: It was deep.
Speaker: But it made things make sense in my mind.
Speaker: It's just like I get it now.
Speaker: And a lot of people don't believe in that.
Speaker: A lot of people don't want to hear it.
Speaker: But I'm the type of person, I want to help people in life.
Speaker: So it's like, if you don't, it doesn't matter your sexuality, it doesn't matter your religion, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, white or black.
Speaker: It's about if you're in my life and you're in my frequency and I'm supposed to help you, I'm going to help you.
Speaker: I'm not going to judge you based on what you're choosing or what you're doing because I don't have control over that, right?
Speaker: So my whole thing is I seek to understand then to be understood because if I project what I'm feeling about that stereotype, I already missed the boat, already missed the shot because I'm not understanding what I'm dealing with.
Speaker: I'm just examining it and giving my thoughts and my perception.
Speaker: And it's just not fake.
Speaker: But that's a book.
Speaker: That's a great book.
Speaker: Yeah, great book.
Speaker: Yeah, it's crazy that it all comes down to like a chromosomal break off at the end of the day.
Speaker: as far as for women or feminine energies people who identify as female i think the book is really helpful because as a woman going through life and male brain but as when you're going through life to to have an understanding of the way that your emotions work and if you want to talk self-development women's leadership women's empowerment that all comes together when you can understand what's happening to you like when you're
Speaker: with what your hormones are doing and how that's how that's affecting how you're thinking on any given day and how you're reacting to things.
Speaker: I think for women in leadership, it's highly important to be in tune with yourself and the way you think and the way you react to things, because that way you can be a better leader and that way you can empower more people.
Speaker: And you're not just reacting emotionally, you're you're coming from an educated place.
Speaker: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker: That book for me was huge.
Speaker: Yeah, it is playing a lot, you know, just a lot of things I had questions about.
Speaker: And what I discovered
Speaker: as a man dealing with old people, the more I always say information changes situations.
Speaker: And if you're questioning something you don't have a clue or understanding about when you get the information from a context that makes sense, you're allowed to have not only compassion for a person in a situation, grace, you're also going to be more forgiving because you have more understanding of what that person was going through in the moment of whatever happened to you.
Speaker: For me, I'm always looking for an edge or a loophole to find like, I need something there that I need to figure out to make this like, oh, that makes sense, right?
Speaker: You know, like, oh, okay, so yeah.
Speaker: And I think as people, we don't take time to process our feelings, our thoughts and emotions, because we're just impulsive sometimes.
Speaker: And we think about what another person is going through.
Speaker: We just go what we see and not what we know.
Speaker: what happens is we quit the judge oh i would never do that oh she's crazy why she do this or why she do that or you know like you know why she wear all his makeup or why he always showing his money or you know what i'm saying and then you get down you say well you know she was very she was verbally abused as a kid and you know she was always talked down and she doesn't feel secure you know what i'm saying in her own skin and right or he was always broke he never had money and everybody you know what i mean like once you unpack people's lives and stories you're like
Speaker: I get it, you know, so it's so important.
Speaker: I wanted to ask you, we talked about leadership for a bit.
Speaker: What does women leadership, what is that to you?
Speaker: But what does that look like in a big, big picture?
Speaker: Like what does women leadership look like if you had to, you know, paint that picture for us?
Speaker: I'm gonna quote Sheryl Sandberg again because she says someday we'll just have leaders and not women leaders.
Speaker: Sheryl.
Speaker: Aha moment, tweetable moment, it's like Oprah said.
Speaker: Yes, I'll Sheryl right there, but it's true.
Speaker: Like it's the same as any minority group.
Speaker: And I put that in quotes because that's, you know, that's on a spectrum, but
Speaker: when you're underrepresented at any specific table, first you got to get the representation at the table and then everyone can just be seated there equally.
Speaker: And I think the future of female leadership is just leadership.
Speaker: But for now, I think it's a it's a process of both sides.
Speaker: So like women are feminine energies becoming more empowered themselves, putting seating at the table like Sheryl Sandberg says, and knowing your strengths, acting on your strengths,
Speaker: and creating space for more women at that table.
Speaker: That's critical.
Speaker: Not just hogging your seat, but creating more seats for other women at your table and pulling them to the table.
Speaker: Go to the table, let's eat.
Speaker: We all eat.
Speaker: Come on.
Speaker: Never eat alone.
Speaker: Come here.
Speaker: Come to the table, let's eat.
Speaker: What you want to go eat, right?
Speaker: Let's go.
Speaker: Come here.
Speaker: And men pulling up seats to the table, which is, again, I appreciate conversations like this.
Speaker: You're bringing me on your platform.
Speaker: Let's go.
Speaker: Everyone can rise.
Speaker: Together we can do whatever.
Speaker: Together is better.
Speaker: Together is more.
Speaker: Like, come on, we can transform together.
Speaker: I don't want to do this alone.
Speaker: I don't want to be alone.
Speaker: It doesn't feel good to be in a position where you're not only going with all the information or the understanding or the intellect or the finance, whatever it is.
Speaker: Everybody, I want you to be.
Speaker: I want you to feel empowered.
Speaker: I want you to have money.
Speaker: I want you to be motivated.
Speaker: I want you to teach me something.
Speaker: I don't always teach.
Speaker: I want to learn.
Speaker: I want you to challenge me.
Speaker: So if I got real lions and real people on my team that's going to challenge me and are real and authentic, I don't have no choice but to grow.
Speaker: They say you are the five people you hang around, right?
Speaker: And I think that, you know, people take it for granted because they don't really understand it.
Speaker: I always like to break it down in like energy and like sports, right?
Speaker: So if I want to play pro basketball and I'm just getting out of college, I'm not going to go play with the college guys.
Speaker: I'm going to go play summer pro and with the pros.
Speaker: I'm going to see if I'm good at it.
Speaker: And the more repetition, because repetition is the mother of skill, the better I'm going to get if I'm playing with the professionals, right?
Speaker: Or if Ed Milot, he said, and I always thought of this,
Speaker: say you're in a tough environment, you're, you're,
Speaker: you're struggling in life, it's hard to make ends meet.
Speaker: I say once a week, twice a week, go somewhere where it's nice at, where money's at, where it feels good.
Speaker: Just go to Starbucks in a richest neighborhood.
Speaker: Go to the park in a nice neighborhood and just be there for an hour and see what happens to your energy.
Speaker: See what happens to your thoughts.
Speaker: See what happens to your frequency.
Speaker: Do you want to think different?
Speaker: You're going to feel different.
Speaker: You're going to be different.
Speaker: And then therefore different can show up in your life.
Speaker: But if we stay in
Speaker: the bubble we grew up in, we were raised in, we can never grow outside of that bubble because outside of that bubble is uncomfortable.
Speaker: And I was reading something this morning and he said, when you go down a road to be comfortable, you're never going to live the life you want.
Speaker: You just never.
Speaker: So you have to put yourself in uncomfortable positions where you're taking chances to your advances and you're taking risks.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We're so afraid of uncertainty and we want to control our life that
Speaker: We don't prepare our life for the best life because we're always trying to like, I can't do this.
Speaker: I can't do that.
Speaker: I used to be that way.
Speaker: I just got to be like, no, just live, just be, go for it.
Speaker: What you got to live.
Speaker: You can only learn.
Speaker: That's another question for you.
Speaker: One question was, what are some challenges you face or you think women face in business in general, you know, not only with men, but just from stereotypical?
Speaker: Like, what is it, what is the most common thing you have witnessed in business with women, the challenges that you face?
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: And quick shout out to plug to my own empower hour.
Speaker: I have an episode with Chelsea.
Speaker: Her last name's escaped me, but Chelsea on my power hour, she's a badass CEO of multiple businesses.
Speaker: And we talked a lot about some of these things, but, um, generally it's oftentimes that women feel a need to overcompensate their own knowledge and their own worth and their own information at the table.
Speaker: Again, a quote citation is from Cheryl is that if you take the same survey and you ask men and women the same subjective questions about themselves, women will nine times out of 10 underestimate undervalue their own skills and men will overvalue their their their skills.
Speaker: So it's interesting to see that what happens is you have women under representing their value or overcompensating trying to prove what they know at a table.
Speaker: I could see, I see that happening in real estate and corporate and all over the place.
Speaker: It's just that you feel and that comes down to women not negotiating for themselves, women not asking for raises, things like that.
Speaker: Why do you think they underestimate their power or their beliefs?
Speaker: What does that come from, you believe?
Speaker: To geek out about it, I think it comes down a lot to our biology and our brains and our hormones and the ways just that we think naturally.
Speaker: But I think it's a it's a paradigm shift.
Speaker: And I think it's a it's a training, the way you train yourself to think about your value and the way you show up and the way you represent yourself.
Speaker: It's a habit that you form over time.
Speaker: I've had instances even in my industry, I'll use myself as an example, because I can't speak for all women.
Speaker: But where I know what I'm talking about when it comes to watches, right.
Speaker: And
Speaker: And I'll be explaining something to one of my clients who's a man and they will be like, I'm not sure if that's correct.
Speaker: Are you sure?
Speaker: Are you sure about that?
Speaker: Me knowing I'm right.
Speaker: I'm like, maybe am I right?
Speaker: Wait, but his confidence and his thought had me second guessing the way I was thinking about something I knew that I knew.
Speaker: I had a conversation with a young lady and I challenged her on her opinion.
Speaker: And I had a different opinion.
Speaker: So in that process, I was watching her and I was seeing, I was like, she was trying to change.
Speaker: I said, oh, I said, no, no, no, don't do that.
Speaker: Do not change your opinion for my opinion.
Speaker: You're not going to do that.
Speaker: And I think that's when men, some men come in and take advantage of women because they see that.
Speaker: I'm more so like, no, no, no, keep your opinion, stating your truth, right, because you feel that way for a reason.
Speaker: Don't change it because you want me to feel safe and comfortable for what I feel like.
Speaker: No, that's okay.
Speaker: Like, I get it.
Speaker: I respect it.
Speaker: I mean, that's your view of that situation.
Speaker: And I think it might come from, and I could be wrong, but I think
Speaker: innately women are just very nurturing and nurturers and like they get birth right so they're always trying to um i can't say always trying but i feel like they have a something in them that they want to compromise right they don't want or hear you out yeah yeah because they said it and i think the women bringing the male brand name is like women want less confrontation like they don't like confrontation so they're just it's all right we'll figure it out like you know
Speaker: But to any women watching, listening, when you have a strong opinion, don't let a man, don't let a woman, don't let anyone, anyone who has money, fame, don't let no one change how you feel.
Speaker: Like literally, like stand on that.
Speaker: Like stand on that.
Speaker: Because your belief is from your perspective, from your experiences, from what you went through and from what you know.
Speaker: So don't let scripture, don't let a person, don't let even statistics
Speaker: I'm listening to a book by David Rubinstein.
Speaker: The book is called How to Lead.
Speaker: By the way, the CEO of Pepsi is a woman, the CEO of IBM is a woman, and there's a few other in there like they're CEOs.
Speaker: People don't know that, right?
Speaker: These are big, big clients for years.
Speaker: And so there was an episode, there was a guy, Tim Cook, he spoke of Steve Jobs.
Speaker: And he said, was it over, the guy was asking him, was it overwhelming when you got to Apple?
Speaker: He was like, no, it was empowering.
Speaker: He's like, for people to think like this, to be like this, he said, I was happy.
Speaker: He said, the thing about Steve was, you can talk to Steve Jobs about anything, and he will always say it could work.
Speaker: where now he's like, and now industry, there is analysis and statistics that say 99.9% that won't work.
Speaker: And he's like, Steve was never that guy.
Speaker: He always will not always go against the grain, but he believed that you felt dearly about something strong that you could do it.
Speaker: And I try to tell people that I've always been
Speaker: the guy in class, I was a nerd in school.
Speaker: Like I got straight A's, you know, I'm always challenging a teacher like not to be like a dick or asshole who's just like, I don't know, I'm curious, can you break it down in a different way to make that same answer?
Speaker: Oh, you were that guy.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think people are afraid to go against authority or someone who has a title, who has a status because they want to think they're always right.
Speaker: It's like, I'm not always right.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: We're not always right, we can be wrong.
Speaker: And I think it's important for women and men to like,
Speaker: stand on what you believe and don't just say I'm forget don't worry about it because I've been that person too then you don't get nowhere yes so you know what you know be loud about it be confident about it I think to your point yes women tend to be a little bit more empathic and yeah a little bit more conflict avoiding and we're gonna be sensitive to the other person's feelings so maybe we're like oh I think they're wrong but I'm not gonna let them know here right right now
Speaker: But it's confidence.
Speaker: And I think, again, when we come back, when we circle back to what women's empowerment means, it's being around more women who speak so confidently and who say what they say and know what they know.
Speaker: It's it's attractive.
Speaker: It's contagious.
Speaker: You're going to say, oh, she's confident about what she's saying.
Speaker: I can be confident about what I'm saying, too.
Speaker: So the more you surround yourself with that power and that confidence is going to rub off on you inevitably.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: And that's important.
Speaker: Another question.
Speaker: As far as women from men, what do you think women need from men?
Speaker: In general one, but in the business sector, like what do you think, not that women demand or they will appreciate, always get the word respect, but a lot of times like words, right?
Speaker: We have our own interpretation of what those words mean to us.
Speaker: So respect might look different to you or someone else.
Speaker: But, and I'm not saying that that's your thing, but what do you think women
Speaker: will want or need, you know, from men in business to make things more, you know, not so one way or not so lopsided.
Speaker: It could just be even keel, it could be like, you know, because I think we all got to understand
Speaker: everybody thinks differently everyone doesn't believe rituals and morals and principles but i think listening to people is important for all people and really understanding like listening to the listening you know how someone say hey i like those shoes and you're like oh maybe you want to buy those shoes you know what i mean like you're really listening to listen and not listening to respond so what do you think um i think there's several several ways that men could show up for women in
Speaker: life, but specifically business.
Speaker: And I think one is again, creating space for women.
Speaker: Again, inviting them to the table, getting, I would say if you've noticed that a woman hasn't said her opinion, you could specifically seek it out.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So if you're at a boardroom table or you're in a group or you're, you're in some type of scenario where you notice that the female hasn't said anything,
Speaker: first of all, I'd encourage that woman to speak up.
Speaker: But secondly, I would say that to seek out that opinion, hey, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker: Because she might have a lot of valuable things to say, but felt overpowered in the room and couldn't get her thoughts out and therefore got washed away, but would have had some really dope stuff to add to the conversation.
Speaker: So I'd say like, bringing making space for them, and then intentionally seeking out
Speaker: what their thoughts are on something because men and women think about things so differently again back to male and female brain we interpret things completely different and women have a lot to bring to the table that complement what men are bringing to the table just in a different way so sometimes you if you can seek it out and intentionally make space for that i think that's helpful
Speaker: Yeah, you know, I like that you said that because I've been in several meetings and I'm a watcher.
Speaker: I watch people like body language, eye contact, energy.
Speaker: And I've noticed everybody is speaking.
Speaker: I'll be the one like whoever the woman is in the room.
Speaker: I'm like, what do you think?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There's a great quote by a woman in the Forbes top 100 and it said the best business advice that she could give anyone is what do you think?
Speaker: Because what do you think is so undervalued because I know what I think, right?
Speaker: But once I can ask you, like, what do you think?
Speaker: Now you're giving me a perspective from your brain on what you think is able, if it is different for me to process what I'm looking at differently.
Speaker: With Wayne Dyer's quote, change the way we look at things, the things we look at change.
Speaker: And that's why women and male feedback and advice is important.
Speaker: Not that it's always right, but it's always good to get a different perspective because then you can wait based on how many there are.
Speaker: But if I'm only getting male perspective, it's like, ah, it's cool, bro, but hold on.
Speaker: Kimmy, what you think?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think, ba-ba-ba-ba, wow, you know what?
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: I didn't even, because if I'm not looking at it like you, how can I even think of it in that way to get the answer, the result I'm looking for?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, it takes two entities, two energies, masculine, feminine.
Speaker: And I just think it's very important.
Speaker: So I got a question.
Speaker: I feel like you're very, you know, educated, motivated.
Speaker: You're very driven, you know, intelligent, you do it all.
Speaker: But I witnessed something on your Instagram that was very appealing.
Speaker: And I was like, she has this side to her, right?
Speaker: So I'm just going to play the video.
Speaker: Oh, shit.
Speaker: And you give me the feedback of what you think.
Speaker: If I'm supposed to meet her and you come at school, that's on you.
Speaker: oh my god yo listen when i saw that i was like hold the heck oh who is this person is this the gemini kicking in and if i lay yes oh my god that right there yo that right there that combination uh in a person wherever male female
Speaker: it's awesome, right?
Speaker: Like you can be motivated, you can be driven, you can be business minded, but then you can be really silly and funny.
Speaker: I think laughter is medicine.
Speaker: I think, you know, what I don't see, maybe it's women to women conversation or togetherness.
Speaker: unless women are just silly and they do memes and stuff, like you don't see that many like silly, goofy, funny women like expressing that or showing that side.
Speaker: But there are multiple women that are probably like that.
Speaker: We just don't know.
Speaker: But I think from a man seeing a woman like that, I think that's attractive because it's like, you know, she's silly like that.
Speaker: And I think
Speaker: That's another way and I might be giving some game right now.
Speaker: That's not a way to track a guy, but that's maybe to get a guy to like open his eyes up more and look at you even different.
Speaker: Like, yo, she had me laughing all day.
Speaker: Like, I want to work with her.
Speaker: I want to do business with her.
Speaker: Oh, I want to date her.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: Because it's a different side that we don't get to see out a woman from a general perspective.
Speaker: We're just looking, we're going for the looks, the swag, the vibe, right?
Speaker: but we just don't see you just don't see women being goofy and silly like normally like at least i don't so when i was like yo this is good you gotta keep doing these i'm like i'm like from you know for sure she got her versace deal i don't know if you follow her she's winning she's killing it yeah but yeah i think it thank you for that but it's like again it goes back to just
Speaker: being authentic and i think it's hard i don't i want to be so preachy but it is hard like when you're a woman you're trying to present yourself i i've struggled with it too how do i want to represent myself as a woman this day and age you know i'm a professional i want people to take me seriously you know if you're doing real estate or selling watches or doing women's empowerment
Speaker: If you post something goofy, are people not going to take you seriously or they're not going to think that you're smart?
Speaker: If you post a sexy pic, are they going to not take you seriously?
Speaker: They're going to objectify me now.
Speaker: So thank you for saying that.
Speaker: And I think it is just a balancing act of being your authentic self these days.
Speaker: and then but also you have if you've done the work to back up what you're bringing to the table you shouldn't have to worry about how people are going to interpret you like if you know you're smart and you know that you you're a hustler and you you want to post something funny then post something funny if you're sexy and you'll post something sexy post something sexy and you know you're smart it's fine yeah it's all of you at all times do it all do whatever you want be authentic
Speaker: You're authentic.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: So yeah, Kimmy, I mean, I guess, you know, that decides, you know, that ends the interview.
Speaker: But what is, what do you have going on?
Speaker: Can you share with the people watching and who's going to look like, what do you have going on?
Speaker: What are you working on?
Speaker: Where can we find you on all social sites?
Speaker: We know your Instagram, but just in general.
Speaker: Thank you for, it's weird being on this side of the interview.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, so my my eyes obviously can be so blessed.
Speaker: And you can also follow at power our podcast.
Speaker: If you would like you can please subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker: It's on Spotify and Apple and all streaming and we just we just have a bunch of really dope women on there that we talked to.
Speaker: And that's something I'm really passionate about right now.
Speaker: I'm also in real estate.
Speaker: so if you want to buy a house um i have some content coming out specifically geared towards women in real estate so if you're a woman watching this or listening to this and you've bought a house or purchased a home please reach out to me because i'd love to talk to you um and yeah that's what we're working on just empowering women and being authentic and i appreciate you eric is she single you don't have you don't have to answer the question i'm just saying she's dating before the interview i'm just letting you know
Speaker: But yeah, you don't got to answer.
Speaker: You can say no comment.
Speaker: It's fine.
Speaker: But anyway, before we get out here, I just want you to give me like one phrase or one statement or one word that represents empowerment to you for the people watching.
Speaker: We can do it like that.
Speaker: Can I give you an Oprah quote?
Speaker: Of course.
Speaker: I love Oprah.
Speaker: I got this last night.
Speaker: The Lord sent it to me.
Speaker: But she was quoting a book she read and it said, authentic power is when your personality comes to serve the energy of your soul.
Speaker: So whoever you are in the world, how is it serving what you came to do?
Speaker: And that's something I'm taking home.
Speaker: Whoever you are in the world, how is that serving what you came to do?
Speaker: Damn.
Speaker: So good.
Speaker: That makes you think, think.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I think it ties this conversation up well because if you can show up authentically, make sure your personality is serving your purpose.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: To be empowered.
Speaker: Make sure.
Speaker: Hold on.
Speaker: Is that yours?
Speaker: Is that your thing?
Speaker: That's my paraphrase of the quote.
Speaker: Authentic power is when your personality comes to serve the energy of your soul.
Speaker: But what you said prior to that, I think you should put that in your bio.
Speaker: I don't know what you said, but how you said it was so on point.
Speaker: It's like a tagline, a slogan.
Speaker: I'm going to listen back.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Your personality should serve your purpose.
Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: All right, well, Kimmy, thank you for being here.
Speaker: I appreciate you, Eric.
Speaker: I appreciate you.
Speaker: Thanks for being such a gem and genuine and authentic and real and empowered.
Speaker: I'm pretty sure a lot of women and Indian men watching this felt empowered by your presence and your authenticity.
Speaker: And follow Kimmy's so blessed.
Speaker: Follow her.
Speaker: Go to her podcast.
Speaker: She's powerful.
Speaker: She's in real estate.
Speaker: Don't forget she got them nice watches, baby.
Speaker: Whatever you need, I got you.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So with that being said, have a phenomenal Sunday, a safe Sunday.
Speaker: And I'll see you on here soon.
Speaker: Happy Easter, everyone.
Speaker: See you later.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So check this out.
Speaker: Check it out.
Speaker: Check it out.
Speaker: That was great.
Speaker: We did great.
Speaker: She did great.
Speaker: Women empowerment.
Speaker: Women empowerment.
Speaker: Women empowerment.
Speaker: Good day.
Speaker: I'm out.
Speaker: This will be up on my page.
Speaker: Go check it out.
Speaker: Give me your comments.
Speaker: Give me your feedback.
Speaker: Let me know how you know, how you feel.
Speaker: Tell a friend to tell a friend.
Speaker: We out.
Speaker: Peace and love.
Speaker: Be great.
Speaker: Treat yourself right.
Speaker: Love yourself.
